Get Ready for an Obama Victory in 2012
The best thing to happen to Barack Obama is that the Republicans cleaned his clock in 2010. He is suddenly looking not so bad for 2012.
The November debacle made it obvious — even to the ultra-conventional left-liberal Obama — that the United States of America is a center-right country. He hired business-friendly William Daley as his chief-of-staff and came out roaring with an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, of all places, that made him sound like a re-upped columnist for Reason magazine (well, mostly). It’s not hard to predict that his State of the Union address will stress cutting the deficit and reprise tropes from his let’s-all-learn-to-love-each-other kumbaya from the Tucson memorial.
November also helped him in that it further marginalized his left flank. Left-wing Democrats can now be placated by the most minor of bones. They have nowhere else to go, except perhaps running Dennis Kucinich in the primaries, which would be comic relief. And given the state of the global economy, few believe in Keynesian economics anymore anyway, except a handful of last-ditch bureaucrats in Brussels and the commenters on the Huffington Post.
But wait, you say, isn’t Obama a leftist ideologue? Won’t that come out in the end? What about Bill Ayers, Rashid Khalidi, and Reverend Wright?
Well, sure, but that was then and this is now, I’m sorry to say. As many have pointed out, Obama is a supreme narcissist and, for such a person, advancement of self trumps ideology virtually anytime. Forget the mind-numbing palaver about sticking to his ideals even if it means losing the election. If Obama has to tilt right to win, he will tilt right.
And he doesn’t need Dick Morris to explain to him how to “triangulate.” The information is in plain sight to a ninth grader running for middle school president. Obama also doesn’t need to be as politically astute or emotionally centrist as Bill Clinton to execute this plan. He’s the president, with all those levers at his disposal. Besides, as I mentioned, it’s not all that complicated. He doesn’t even have to believe it. The media will do that for him.
I won’t bet to heavily on Obama’s election one way or another at this point. All other things being equal, he is likely to win reelection for exactly the reasons you lay out. However, November 2012 is a very, very long way away. I can think of any number of scenarios that would be huge game changers.
A full-on sovereign debt crisis, a return of recession deep enough that the media can’t deny it, a major terrorist attack, a foreign crisis on the order of the 1979 Iranian Revolution, the list goes on and on.
Let’s not make any plans one way or another at this point….
Thomas Sowell has said that what is needed is an “articulate Republican.”
Carter’s mess looks a lot like B. Hussain Obama’s mess, but it was America’s great good fortune that the Repubs had in Reagan that rarest person–an articulate Republican.
OK, the post-Kennedy, post-modern Dems are insane, but always remember that the Repubs aren’t much good at politics.
The Repubs have family, church, community to engage their energies but the insaneocrats are all about politics all the time.
They are the party of government, and we need an articulate Republican or their natural advantage will be too great to overcome.
… perfectly stated, and I agree 100%.
Sowell is right as far as he goes. The other key is to acknowledge that the issues of abortion, gay rights and religion-in-government are not so cut and dried as the extreme right believes. Any party that espouses smaller government will automatically lose public service workers and anyone who relies upon the government for their livelihood. Nor will it ever win a meaningful percentage of minority groups who believe in special treatment and entitlements. So that leaves what I believe is the swing vote – independents who vote Democrat because they fear intolerance on those key issues more than they worry about fiscal irresponsibility. I’ll duck now.
Late reply, but I only wanted to throw a bouquet at your head.
An “articulate Republican” can be just as dangerous as the current articulate Democrat.
One can only hope that the people won’t be fooled by eloquence once again.
May your teleprompter fail and flies swarm about your face. Oh wait, that prayer has already been answered.
This hilarious animated web video exposes the insanity of the Progressives with big time humor and gives Americans a new symbol to rally around (think Rosie-the-riveter) — the “head-up-the-butt” person…as Obama’s supporters are.
http://www.marcrubin.com/hairmerica.ivnu
Your analysis is correct, things seem to have reached a calm steady state by now (or soon from now) Yet, we are just a Sarah Palin Facebook post away from a new game change. And I mean, she is a mover and shaker, so if she carefully puts hers cross-hairs on Obambi
she can wreak havoc within the white house again.
I’m with you, Ytzik. We can count on the media to slander our best candidate and promote our worst. If you don’t know who our best candidate is, just look to see who they are slandering the most. Please, let’s not let the media pick our candidate again like they did in 2008.
Also, don’t fall for the liberal line “We’re hoping that you pick Palin so we’ll be assured a victory”. They are attempting to use reverse psychology on us.
If conservatives don’t step up and defend themselves …the MSM will see that obama is reelected. Since obama made his remarks about civility, the left has been full bore on destroying the right with distortions and out of line commentarys.
i.e., the recent Glenn Beck utube video..they only put “part” of his video on where he talked about shooting..taken completely out of context made to look like he was advocating shooting people in the head. These things need to be stopped.
Also, agreed, whomever the left makes fun of , disses…we will take a very careful look at and consider voting for. PLLllleeese no Ronmeys…
If you want to know what the libruls are going off their rockers about now and whom they most fear, you have got to see the comments, which are completely off topic, here (of course you will need to wear your rubber gloves and don a respirator). I’ll give you a hint: PDS, Act 126.
http://thinkprogress.org/2011/01/21/immelt-obama/
Sarah’s the welded-on candidate for tea-partiers, no doubt about it.
But will most republicans want to vote for her? Hmm. She’d have to put on a much better effort than she did last time around. 4 years of being coached and hitting the books might actually get her up to speed, but she’s still divisive. Democrats would have rallied around hillary or obama – that’s what it’s going to take to get a republican into the white house against an incumbent (assuming he doesn’t seriously screw up, which he’s unlikely to do). Palin can’t even get support from the serious conservatives on fox – and she’s practically fox’s staff candidate. What will she do if the krauthammers and kristols undermine her as a lightweight? Or o’reilly, for that matter. Just turn on them with one of her facebook bon mots? Stick targets on them and hope for the best?
Palin isn’t going to be president. It’s just not a credible scenario. She has to get overwhelming support from conservatives to even have a chance, and conservatives are, by their very nature, conservative – and she’s risky. If she waits long enough, and assuming obama doesn’t hand the keys to clinton, she might have a clear run against an unknown … but by then she’s not going to inspire the same religious fervor any more.
In any case, she’s making a bucket of money NOT being president, and she doesn’t have to be accountable to anyone. She doesn’t even have to fight her own battles. Don’t be too shocked if she never nominates (heck – I wouldn’t). It’ll be the liberal media’s fault, of course. You can bank on that.
“Don’t be too shocked if she never nominates (heck – I wouldn’t).”
I’m not particularly a supporter of Palin’s, but semi-literate comments like yours make me one. As for Mr. Simon’s article, I have to agree with him, sad to say, since Obama is one of the most hollow public figures I have ever seen. But then makes him the perfect candidate for our media, alas. You don’t need T. S. Elliot to tell you that.
Really? A PJM reader not a palin supporter?
As for the rest … wait and see. If I’m right, you can say it was all my fault. After all, we both know it’s going to be SOMEBODY’S fault, right?
well, I am a Palin supporter, sure. But I know it’s possible she couldn’t make it to the nomination (if the R establishment gets nasty). In any case, my post you answered was just pointing out to the fact that she is able to post something in Facebook, shake the things and wreak havoc in the Dem camp. That’s it. Even if she never run for the Oval office, she can still fight and bring the Obasmic camp to its knees
Republican who is the most electable would be Newt Gingrich… he would be able to chew up and spit out Barry Obama in ANY debate.
http://weaselzippers.us/2011/01/22/swept-under-the-rug-by-msm-radical-leftist-slits-throat-of-man-he-thought-was-gop-gov-of-missouri/
is your name really matthew ….or is this article about you?
Very good.
Do you really think it’s sensible to be suggesting that other posters are insane would-be assassins? Is that really the pinnacle of your argument?
And no, clearly it isn’t me because I can write whole sentences, and I’m not in prison.
I think you’re spot on with this assessment. Within the next 18 months – even if nothing major happens elsewhere – we can expect at least 40% of incumbent federal Repubs to out-slimey the skanky Dihmocrats, Not in the same volume of corruption, of course, but just a little will be enough for the lamestream media to make it seem as if it’s “politics as usual”, and “they’re all the same”.
And that, dear RINO’s, will be enough to tip the balance. They can’t help themselves, you see, because they are politicians. It will not be their fault that as a result the National Tea Party becomes organized, fully formed and millions then bolt the GOP, making it the smaller third party. It will all be Palin’s responsibility, dern her.
So you are saying that the Democrats will win because the GOP are bound to act as stupidly as the dezinens of the left.
Wishfull projection much?
Projection? Not so much as a clear-eyed and sober reflection on what the previous GOP-led congresses did to spend us into the fiscal mess we’re in now.
Remember “compassionate conservatism,” No Child Left Behind, and Dubya’s own statement that when people are hurting, government’s gotta move? That’s what he’s talking about when he says the GOP has a good chance to act as stupidly as the left.
And then there were those current congresscritters who opposed something as small as the earmark ban. Yeah, they’re already acting as stupidly as some on the left.
It ain’t projection… it’s what’s already happening.
yeah how stupid was NO Child LEft bEHIND?? Our state FLORIDUH went from almost last in education to 5TH BEST with that doofus’ program
Being 5th, or even 1st, in a race among socialized school systems isn’t anything to brag about. Moroever, comparing relative rankings among school systems that are all subject to the same law is a totally useless exercise in measuring the impact of that law. If your state’s rise is attributable to the law then it must also be true that the other states’ decline relative to your state is attributable to the law? Assuming for argument’s sake that that were so, why would that be a good thing for the nation? Your argument is quite silly.
It is asinine to try and predict a Presidential election two
years out. It is especially asinine to predict victory for
an incumbent who has shown himself to be as ineffective and
incompetent as Obama. Obama has a horrible record to defend
(trillions of added deficits and debt, slow growth, high
unemployment, inane foreign policy, support for rancid,
unpopular legislation, etc.). Plus Obama thorougly mis-
represented himself in 2008, which gives him a real credibility
problem in 2012 that any adept opponent can exploit.
Obama’s only real advantage, for 2012, is that he is the
current incumbent, which is not insignificant. Obama’s
fate will most likely be decided by events on the ground
(much like George H.W. Bush and his plus 90% approval rating in
February 1991). Obama clearly can’t continue on the course
he has been pursuing. If the economy turns up, unemployment
drops, the deficit starts to tumble and Obama is able to
convince enough voters he has turned a new leaf, he definitely
has a chance to be re-elected. But…
If the economy continues to falter, unemployment stays high,
trillions of new debt is added, fallout from Obamacare (how
would you like to defend Obamacare in a general election?),
Iran detonates a nuke, etc. then Obama will be returned to
community organizing in 2013.
Also, spare me the whining about the Mainstream Media being
“all in for Obama”. The Mainstream Media was so effective in
the last election cycle, Obama and the Democrats ‘only’
lost 63 seats in the house. Obama’s hard-left record (before
and during his Presidency) is ripe for exploitation no
matter how fast he tries to run from it. No predictions
here folks, but OBAMA IS EMINENTALLY BEATABLE!
I did not vote in the 2008 election because I had not changed my residency at the time but did in 2010 and will again in 2012 and will not vote for any Democrat for any reason, especially Obama (the worst president this country has ever had!)
KDW
Re: 1. Agreed but so what? Voters have notoriously short memories.
Re: 2. Doesn’t this agree with the thread?
Re: 3. Possibly, but in time of war voters tend to support the party in power. Could go either way, IMO.
Re: 4. They know they are mortally wounded. The last election vividly brought that fact home. But they are not silently slipping away into the forest to die with dignity. Instead, they still have tremendous weapons in play and as the recent [and coordinated?] assault on Palin proved, they have a game plan and intend to use it.
Be wary and aware.
The main point to be taken from my previous post is that
Obama can be beaten. His terrible record is not irrelevent -
it’s up to the Republicans to remind the voters. Nobody
believes Obama is the messiah anymore. He’s just another
hack, left-wing politician. Obama is going to need some
actual real world successes to have a chance. Pretty
words read off a teleprompter won’t cut it anymore.
We’ve never had a more fiscally irresponsible President
than Obama – this is not a hard case to make. Forget
Obama’s recent bump in the polls – the rise in no way
indicates people are coming around to his way of thinking.
Voters are going to give him another long look. If
the economy picks up Obama could win. If the economy
tanks, inflation explodes, states start declaring
bankruptcy, trillions more are added to our debt with
no end in sight, large numbers of people lose their
health insurance due to Obamacare and gasoline prices
skyrocket, Obama will most certainly lose. The liberal
media won’t be able to bail him out, just like they
couldn’t bail out Pelosi this year.
There just isn’t any reason to buy into Simon’s hand-
wringing, certainly not this early.
I think you’re spot on with this assessment. Within the next 18 months – even if nothing major happens elsewhere – we can expect at least 40% of incumbent federal Repubs to out-slimy the skanky Dihmocrats, Not in the same volume of corruption, of course, but just a little will be enough for the lamestream media to make it seem as if it’s “politics as usual”, and “they’re all the same”.
And that, dear RINO’s, will be enough to tip the balance. They can’t help themselves, you see, because they are politicians. It will not be their fault that as a result the National Tea Party becomes organized, fully formed and millions then bolt the GOP, making it the smaller third party. It will all be Palin’s responsibility, dern her.
Today the Republicans plan to roll back spending to 2008 levels was shown to the public.
Cut the Fed work force by 15% and freeze Fed wages for 5 years.
Like a thousand lawyers under the Atlantic, it’s a good start.
Yeah, but apparently they “can’t agree on when it is supposed to start.” ?????? Duh? How about yesterday? Amazing. But maybe not. Did you see that some large % of congresspeople recently indicated in a poll that the ‘electoral college’ was a place that aspiring leaders could go to learn their trade?? Could ‘t make this stuff up folks.
Hoping they continue working together for the public good. Hope is not trust. I think at least 40 per cent will “slip” and be caught.
I wouldn’t make any predictions – what is predictable is that the unpredictable happens. In other words, sh*t happens.
There are any number of very nasty situations that may explode in Obama’s face.
Obama is a con man & a liar, a total phoney, and as you say, a narcissist. He’s intellectually shallow & not particularly competent, an amateur.
The world has become far more unstable than it’s been in 75 yrs.
Obama may be over-taken by events, events over which he has no control & no competence to deal with.
Sure, it’s possible Obama can fool the electorate again provided there is no major crisis. But, it’s in no way inevitable.
I agree, plus what I wrote below. We have to have faith!
Barry Obama, the Prince of Fools, will still hold his royal position in November 2012. There’s a reason he hasn’t released ANYTHING from his college and law school days: it’s all way too radical and Marxist.
What remains to be seen (as Roger Simon hinted) is whether the VOTERS will remain on a fool’s mission in 2012 or if they will come to realize that their hero has feet of clay.
Spot on!
I am not one to believe he’ll gain a second term; there is no trust. The overwelming majority of the american people do not trust him enough to remain ‘a tilting-right’ should he win again. (myself included)
And it’s going to be pretty hard to “tilt right” with al-Bama Care tied around his neck like an albatross.
Also, don’t underestimate the alternative media.
“it’s possible Obama can fool the electorate again…”
Actually, I don’t believe that he fooled all that many; a combination of fraud, starry eyed entitlement mongers,(I WON’T HAVE TO PAY FOR MY GAS OR MORTGAGE!!!!) white guilt and questionable/secret huge money sources created a perfect storm to bring no background Barry to the Bigtime.
So…what’s gonna be the next crisis (not to be wasted) justifying greater restrictions and rules for us unbelieving philistines?
Is Barack Obama the same as Bill Clinton or wee Jimmy Carte? Alternatively, is he truly an empty suite of an order of magnitude unseen since James Buchanan? If the later then disasters will accumulate and the terms of.analysis used by Mr. Driscoll may not apply.
White race guilt is the biggest thing going for Barack Obama. A white president would be down in polls by at least another five points. Obama is as nasty as either Lyndon B. Johnson or Richard Nixon—but most people don’t see it that way. One constantly hears the bizarre assertion, “I disagree with Obama on a lot of things, but I personally like him.” What the heck? At the end of the day, the country may be destroyed. White race guilt threatens the very survival of Western Civilization.
This is correct.
It is another form of what the Europeans are inflicting on themselves with their refusal to recognize that PC’ness is detroying the greatest culture of all time.
Huh!? An Obama victory in 2012? But David Thompson promised me over and over again that Obama was already a marginalized figure, that he’s thisclose to a mental breakdown, that he’d have to resign before the end of his term (specifically, by March of this year). Now you’re telling me Obama’s going to win in 2012? This is shocking! I’ve never known David to get it this wrong (except, of course, for his predictions about the Dow, the economy, passage of the health care bill, Obama’s legislative record, the Sotomayor confirmation and a Celtic’s championship.)
if he was white the media would not have gotten behind him and either hillary or mccain would be slowly running the country into the ground.
if he was white and did make it to be president ..he would be the first one to be run out of office by this same media.
David Thomson has this right: “White race guilt threatens the very survival of Western Civilization.”
Sorry Mr. Simon. Serves me right for blogging at 2 AM.
Nonsense. He will head fake to the center, but it will be another lie. He has no credibility. He also lacks Clinton’s people skills.
He has vowed to continue to achieve what he wants via executive fiat. Just keep showing this to the people, and they’ll get it.
This election is the Republicans’ to lose. Of course, they ARE the Stupid Party, totally incompetent at messaging, and known for shooting themselves in the foot. Or each other (Cheney). Okay, cheap shot.
“He also lacks Clinton’s people skills.”
Not wrong, just irrelevant.
As Mr Simon pointed out, the msm has freed itself from any pretense of objectivity. Obama has tens of thousand of full-time cheerleaders with megaphones unmatched in human history.
Why, it’s even conceivable that Obama might be able to get away with being a hate-filled anti-American who cannot prove American birth; who was an avowed marxist and who now clumsily lies about beng a marxist; who has spent his entire life associating with people who intend to destroying the US; and who himslef intends to fundamentally change a free republic into a state-controlled dictatorship.
Oh wait a minute…
You guys dont understand that its *you* who will get Obama re-elected.
“I think 2012 is already rigged for this fraud to go back in Chavez or Ahdinamajhd style. He is deeply entrenched as a Communist infitrator and has been for many years.”
Running an electiuon-campaign on the premise that the preisdent of the United States is a communist infiltrator, closet muslim and Kenyan citizen is going to place the republicans firmly on the loony edge. The reason the “Call for civility” resonates so deeply in the body politic isnt because of some vast conspiracy of MSM and jewish liberal capital, its because of your truly and amazing paranoid style of argument.
Unless Hillary has a terminal disease we don’t know about she will not allow him to be the nominee. If he is in any way smart he will step aside peacefully.
Please, Roger, we need optimism at this point. The comeback kid analogy works just so far. As Dr. Krauthammer stated this week, the difference between Clintigula and al-Bama is the former ran in ’96 with a health care coup that went down in defeat. al-Bama will have Obamacare hanging like an albatross around his neck.
The economic situation is vastly different too.
We need to have more faith.
Praise the Lord and pass the amunition. Oh wait, I’m not allowed to say either one of those things anymore.
You have my permission! Forget anything you have heard from the media or the democrat party!
Give us a GOP candidate who is willing to air commercials featuring: Jeremiah Wright and the Hate Whitey Church, Acorn ‘Brothelgate’, ‘Black Muslim Voter Intimidation-gate’, Obama ‘Bowing to the heathen king-gate’, Obamacare and all the graf and corruption that entails, the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize winner throwing a state dinner for the jailer of the 2010 Peace Prize winner, and just for good measure throw some more meat to the birther crowd, and make the case that he isn’t a Christian. In other words, gives us a candidate that isn’t McCain and Obama can not only lose 2012, but he might wind up behind bars.
YES!!
But such doesn’t exist, neither in the Tea Party crowd nor the Country Club Republan Party.
The American public is a gum-chewing, mouth-breathing mob of undereducated boobs who can’t even identify the three branches of government, let alone listen to anything not sung to rap.
Then take the gum out of your mouth!
Elected officials aren’t much better:
Elected Officials Flunk Constitution Quiz
I always thought your Emoniker sounded rather French, PayLOH. I mean you wouldn’t say such harsh things about yourself, now would you?
It is true that there are many people who aren’t all that brilliant and sophisticated, but almost everyone responds to propaganda, and Obama has provided a motherlode of propaganda, most of which can be used against him.
P of A writes: “…2009 Nobel Peace Prize winner throwing a state dinner for the jailer of the 2010 Peace Prize winner…”
Brilliant! Obama is one sick pup.
But this supreme narcissist sees his ideology as integral to his identity. He will defend both with the same fervor and the same set of strokes. The alternative is to admit to mistakes so pervasive and misconceptions so deep that he might as well don Coriolanus’s “toga of humility,” fall to his knees on the Capitol steps, proclaim himself a lifelong idiot, hand Sarah Palin a whip, and ask her to scourge him.
Electorally in 2012, it’s too soo to be certain of anything. Remember how greatly Clinton benefited, in 1996, from having been checked by the GOP’s 1994 takeover of Congress.
Wow…Now there’s an image I’m going to have to work hard to keep out of my bigoted racist right-wing mind!
If this takes hold as conventional wisdom then I suppose the R establishment types should be all too happy to see SP win the nomination. Especially if the R’s can manage to force at least nominal spending cuts. And how will Obama react rhetorically? Won’t he be forced to at least feign outrage at the ‘heartless’ R’s?
In that case who better than SP with a record of reform against cronyism to promise to finish the job and keep Tea Party enthusiasm alive?
And a reviving economy is unlikely to make significant dents in unemployment…we have been reliant for construction for far too long.
I have to agree with Marc Malone, “nonsense”. When Obama was elected he was presented as a deity that would serve all of mankind with his wisdom. And the world would be a better place. Now, we all know he is not a deity, has zero wisdom and the US and the world are the worse for his being President. He cannot restore his image by talking with a teleprompter, and all his real policies and personnel are dedicated to expanding the government at the expense of the private economy. If he was genuinely moving to the center he would have long ago stopped the moronic bans on drilling in the Gulf.
We all know what he is. What remains to be seen in the next year is are the Republicans serious about fixing our grave situation. If they attack the job honestly and energetically, and use a very large dose of education about limited government, private property, the Constitution, and the incredible gift we have (for now) of personal freedom, then the stage will be set. We will then need a Conservative candidate who is energetic, willing to lead, can defend and articulate all the above ideas, and we will win. Our only risk is half measures. If we nominate another Bob Dole, John McCain or other conservative “pretender” we might lose. Because then the base will be angry and it won’t display the energy or turnout of 2010. That is our risk.
Get Ready for an Obama Victory? Not while I draw a breath and have any energy to work for the opposition party. There is a long way to a second term for Dear Reader, I trust the American people to end this nightmare.
Leigh, I too want this nightmare of a presidency to end, however, unlike you, I don’t trust the people and believe enough people are going to be manipulated and fooled to vote for him again. I pray I am wrong, but I don’t think so.
Speculation about the political climate 21 months from now is just that, speculation. The economic climate is more predictable. The economy will be in worse shape as a result of the debt crisis. Logically that should sink Obama, however logically he should be in worse shape today than he was two weeks ago. Logically, praising Dupnik after he spread his blood libel and then turning a memorial service into a campaign rally ought to have damaged Obama.
I think Palin is running and she will be the GOP nominee. The election will then turn on how she does in the debates. Since more Americans agree with her policy positions than his and since she won’t refrain from attacking him on his pitiful record – which will be even more pitiful by then – she will win the debates.
But of course this is speculation.
I agree, the debates will tilt the 2012 election. I’m going to be watching the primaries closely. My vote goes to whoever I think will talk tough on the campaign trail and foremost — cream Obama in the debates.
And then there is the possibility that pouring 10 gallons of gasoline into your tank in November 2012 could easily cost $55.00. Add inflationary costs to that, by the way. Thank you Mr. President for deliberately making gas cost so much through your intemperate and bull-headed insistence that we all change ASAP to even more expensive electric cars so as to prevent non-existent global climate something or other.
Let’s see now. For whom will I vote, hmmm?
One tendency you do not factor in, Mr. Simon. Namely, Obama’s regulatory regime. The EPA declaring carbon emissions to be pollution and revoking mining grants in West Virginia; the FCC imposing “net neutrality”; the LRB toying with labor rules that sneak “card check” in the backdoor. . . . While Obama may try to feint to the center, his bureaucrats will drag his administration back to the left.
The only question is how much attention the dragging will receive in the “drive-by media”; or, rather, how successful conservatives will be in bringing the dragging to the attention of the American people.
Obama is One termer, another Jimmy Carter if, and only if Sarah Palin wins the nomination and be our female Reagan. If the GOP gives its back to who helped them have the biggest congressional and governatorial wins in 70 years, then Obama will win in a landslide like Carter was going to do against Bush Sr.
Huckabee would be DESTROYED in the North and Romney in the South. Palin can beat Obama in youth, historic run and charisma.
Huckabee or Romney don’t bring nothing to the table than liberal policies, same old politics and boring campaigns.
Ditto carmelo junior.Mike huckabee is a jimmy carter republican.He said Rush Limbaugh,Mark Levin,And Sarah Palin type conservatives were extremist.And that barack obama was a great american patriot,That loved,and only had the greatest intentions.He also said bill clinton was the greatest political mind of our time.Lets see.He(bill clinton)Is A habitual liar(convicted Perjurer)Habitual sex offender.On national security he won his greatest victory.Taking out a bunch of women,and children in waco.Got wealthy off the muslim world.By Selling out america,and israel.And lost A 50 year rein of a democrat control congress.And political hacks like huckabee,charles krauthammer,Karl rove,The bush family,and other liberal suck-ups like Newt gingrinch.Who gave the credit to bill clinton for the accomplishments of Pete dommenichy,And john kasic who wrote the contract with america.All were as well slobbering all over themselves when barack obama was elected.while those like sarah palin.had the judgement,vision,principles,convictions,and courage to call a pig with lipstick still a pig.Which those like mike huckabee and other liberal lapdog republicans do not.And have been trying to shut her up every since.Why?For telling the truth.Jimmy Joe”The Liarfryer”
Palin cannot beat Obama – no how, no way. Her negatives are simply too high, even among moderate Republicans and Independents. And once an image has been implanted, it’s easy to reinforce it via the media and the late night talk show hosts. A large proportion of the electorate, for example, still believes Palin said she could “see Russia from my house”.
I see only two things that will forestall a second Obama term – one hoped for, one feared. The first is emergence of a strong, experienced consensus candidate who can show Obama to be the poseur he is. I don’t see that person yet, and Republicans remain divided on many issues. What I fear is a crisis that shakes the confidence of the populace to its core. It might be economic (collapse of the dollar, a major rise in unemployment, the government unable to finance its debt), a major terror assault on the US homeland, or it might be a series of foreign policy crises – Iran setting off a nuclear device, a major war in the Middle East driving up oil prices (see economic crisis) or who knows what. None of us want that.
But if things continue more or less as they are, they will establish a “new normal” and Obama will win. Which makes taking the Senate that much more essential.
Ah, a Wapo reader. You’re from DC alright.
The first is emergence of a strong, experienced consensus candidate who can show Obama to be the poseur he is. I don’t see that person yet, and Republicans remain divided on many issues.
That person doesn’t exist. If he did he would have vigorously denounced the disgraceful blood libel Sarah Palin had to endure last week for the sin of being a freedom loving, conservative, American woman.
Of course he will be hard to beat as half the country is either on the government dole or essentially clueless and unconcerned. However it’s WAY to early to be calling it one way or the other.
All the more reason to nominate an authentic conservative not a RINO. Didn’t someone say when it comes to elections “it’s the economy?” Well you may think the economy is healthy, I think the opposite. Further, Obama’s moves are all jawboning not substance. When it comes to action the Dems will implement further job killing fiscal, monetary and regulatory policies, it’s in their DNA. Think 1979-1980.
Articles like this one always make the assumption that people will simply forget about what happened during the first two years of the Obama administration and how angry people still are right now. Add to that a lousy economy, Obamacare, and the trillion dollar “stimulus” that only stimulated more debt, and I can’t see America falling in love with this guy all over again in 2012. I think it all comes down to who the Republicans nominate for president. Obama has really, really, scared this country, regardless of what the main stream media says and will do during the next election. If the Republican nominee in 2012 is halfway decent, I think he or she will win.
Exactly!
Another issue will no longer work, which is labeling the american people as ‘racists’ at every tun. It worked in 2008 to his advantage, but the rest of america has pretty much grown tired of it, not to mention has turned them off.
I think Ohio, Indiana, and the Independents will produce a different answer provided the GOP fields a solid team. Mitch Daniels would be an excellent choice to head that team.
Roger, do you have one of those nasty colds that make the world look grim and gray? Little else I can think of explains your slough of despond except heavy losses at the poker table. The November elections show a powerful current moving our direction. Faux conservative Democrats like Kent Conrad have read the tea leaves and others like Claire McCaskill hope they’ve not seeing what’s at the bottom of the cup. Obama said he was going to get us out of our cars and $5 gas should do it nicely, but people aren’t going to like it (not to mention the economy). They will remember the Gulf oil drilling ban and the regulations that make explorations elsewhere all but impossible. The MSM will continue its Hallelujah Chorus, but the mistrust it has created for itself will further lessen its influence. Look for a wrenching foreign crisis that Obama’s amateurs will bungle. Issa’s investigations will produce a bonanza. Two years in a long time in this volatile period. Drink some orange juice and gin and buck up.
In a second term he will not have nothing to lose from being the extreme ideologue that he is. That is, unless he tries to change the constitution so that he can get a third term, maybe more…as Zelaya, who he supports, tried to do.
Yes, certainly. It’s no longer the economy, and ten percent unemployment and another ten percent underemployment don’t matter. In 2012 it’ll still be Bush’s fault, and nobody will remember the Democrats once controlled the entire government. Korea and Iran are so over there, so who cares if they have nukes?
The voters won’t care anymore and the Tea party will just be a quaint memory.
Nobody will be sick, so Obamacare will be fine with all of us.
You live in California, don’t you? We’ll all be happy to pitch in to pay the pensions of your prison guards.
In 2006, Hillary was inevitable.
Funny how I’ve been making the same point for some time now and it only goes to show how ignorant the American voter truly is to the truth. Voters don’t give a hoot about the President’s lies or his past actions and with the help of the media they won’t hear them. The independent voter that decides elections thinks with their wallet and emotion. If the economy is not seriously worse, which is pretty unlikely because the media will prevent the truth from really getting out about the debt crisis, then these independent voters will act like it is high school all over again and vote for the cool popular guy over the hot witch or dumb old white guy or whatever lame candidate the Republicans throw up there.
Any Republican candidate would look at 2012 as a crap shoot, solely based on the economy in late 2012, which is impossible to predict. If the economy tanks hard enough then the people will clamor for Christie, Daniels, Cain, or heaven forbid Romney.
For 2012, we need to have a solid message, with real solutions, that the Team can rally around to win the Senate and increase our position in the House. I said this way back in 2008 and it still holds today. We need a clear and concise message centered on small government, with greatly reduced spending. It needs to be based on actual plans with concrete actions (which programs need cutting). The Republicans need to sharpen their pencils and come up with a solid plan (name names on what to cut) that clearly shows how they are going to fix the mess.
They will likely fail at this because they had a golden opportunity in 2010 and if it wasn’t for the Tea Party they would have completely miss the boat. They were happy to allow the Tea Party to call the shots, since they didn’t have a plan of their own. I love the Tea Party and they have doing wonders for this country, but some of their candidates were less than desirable.
If the Republicans can get their collective crap together, then maybe there is some shot at the WH. This isn’t going to happen without a strong central leader that the independents (white educated females) can get behind, which is not Palin. If the Republicans can get their crap in a single sock soon then 2012 will be just another lost opportunity.
Some potential Republican nominees are presently polling significantly better against Obama than Reagan was against Carter in January 1980.
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I think 2012 is already rigged for this fraud to go back in Chavez or Ahdinamajhd style. He is deeply entrenched as a Communist infitrator and has been for many years.
Thomas Fife over at National Writers Syndicate did an article months ago on Obama. He went on to say during his trip to Moscow in 1992 for a software company, he was invited to stay with one of the Russian Scientist. At a dinner at their house Fife goes on to describe the wife of this Scientist who was a devout Communist.
She ranted about a black man named Barack, who would end up as Pres. of the U.S. She with elation mentioned that he had been groomed for years by the Communist Party to infiltrate America and impose Communism throughout the U.S. Keep in mind this occurred in 1992 before anyone had ever heard the name.
Fife mentioned this was purely anecdotal, however I think it goes much further than that, because everything this woman said we now have hanging out in our White House.
Yes 2012 is rigged. It has been planned for many years. Russia did not fall, it landed in America, and now we have it in the White House, and in some Rino Republicans like Olympia Snowe,
Susan Collins, & John McCain.
The Communists have also infiltrated the Libertarians. Everyone better prepare now for 2012 and have actual recounts because even if someone else wins by a landslide, this fraud is going back in. The machines are fixed, make no mistake about it.
We can’t fight this if we do not know what is going on.
I say to all fellow Patriots, get ready now to demand actual counts of who voted and for whom. It is going to be nasty. Make no mistake about it. We have been overthrown by this fraud and thief, and his band of thugs.
Two posts above hit the nail on the head as to why obozo will win in 2012: white race guilt and repubs being the stupid party.
Anyone going up against obozo in 2012 will be called racist, and the republican candidate will go out of his way to avoid that label. Witness how McCain had only nice words to say about Obama (“he’s a patriot”, “would make a good president”, etc) and avoided using his middle name, yet when he called Obama “that one” in a debate, my word, THAT was RACIST! The MSM will do their part to promote that narrative. In 2008, the Dem convention was seen as a new age, kumbaya-inducing multiculti star-studded paradise on earth, while the Rep convention was described as “having so many white people it looked like a Nuremburg rally.”
As the stupid party, the repubs will do everything to “reach across the aisle”. What that means, is rather than forcing the dems to the center, they will over-reach to the left to be “bipartisan” and not “mean-spirited”. Or, like under GW Bush, they will throw a few bones to conservatives like legislating against stem-cell research and preside over a large expansion of federal government.
One thing that helped Clinton was his “Mcveigh Moment”, when in the aftermath of the OKC bombing, conservatives and talk (“hate”) radio were vilified. The other side effect of the McVeigh Moment has been the inability to deal with Muslim terrorists, since the narrative has become “Christians (aka McVeigh) have committed terror too.” but that’s another issue. Wait until Obama has his McVeigh moment, when some white guy with a gun or bomb commits mayhem: he will impugn Rush, Savage, Hannity, Palin and the tea party as “creating a climate of hate” and conservatives will become the boogeymen. You already have seen how quickly tea partiers were blamed due to that apolitical Tuscon schizo with a gun.
But worst of all, our populace is much more dumbed-down and brainwashed than they were in 1979 or 2000. With a democrat of color promising loads of government goodies from the public treasury, while “putting america in its place” abroad, Obama is assured another term.
So, in other words we …just give up.
Great advice champ.
Way too pat by a long shot. Obama’s reelection depends on whether there are enough voters out there that want him to change enough so that they can vote for him again. My guess is that there are fewer of these people now than there were in 2008 when people were looking for reasons to vote for him and not just against Bush. You’re right, though, in saying that Obama has a lot of things at his disposal to help him over the next two years.
But, despite (possibly bogus) poll numbers to the contrary, most likely voters probably see Obama as a mistake. These people just wanted a good manager at the helm that he promised them he would be. Obama not only lied about that but stubbornly dug in his ideological heels for too long—and has he really ever sobered up? The ‘reluctant’ voters he is depending on would more likely believe in the latest conspiracy theory than an Obama makeover.
There is no “Comeback Kid” or Bill Clinton in Barack Obama. That became evident last month in the White House Briefing Room when Clinton made Obama look like the incompetent rank amateur that he is. Obama will fail to turn Jimmy Carter’s secomg term into Bill Clinton’s third.
Click my name and read my piece: Barack Obama’s Civility Offensive.
If the voters are foolish enough to elect Obama to second term, then America deserves to fail.
It would be pathetic, tragic end to an amazing couple of centuries in human history.
I agree. There should no forgiveness for the anti-American, anti-democrat stances of this man. As you said, if the US re-elects this man, the US deserves what it gets. It will be a devastating blow to the cause of freedom worldwide.
I don’t think he’ll even run for re-election. People know him now, and they don’t trust him,(Birth Certificate? Hello!).
The novelty of his skin has worn off and he can’t blame Bush anymore than he can blame Palin for the economy we’re in.
He has pissed off the Zionist Jews with his stance towards Israel, and the Cuban-Americans with his flirting with the Castros.
The Evangelicals never could stand him…so who, exactly, is going to vote for him in Florida?
Arc around the solidly Republican Gulf states to Texas, where he is actively detested, (I sail on a ship full of Texicans and Coonasses). He isn’t going to win Texas either
So just how is he supposed to win the White House when he has already conceded Texas and Florida? California is big, but it ain’t THAT big, and Jerry Brown isn’t a miracle worker, so the Golden State is going to chewing on rocks, economically speaking, for at least another four years…the descendants of all the Dust Bowl “Okies” are heading back home.
And if the GOP get their act together and open public impeachment hearings on Holder for the New Black Panther case, you’d likely be trampled if you stood in front of the “White Flight” from the Moonbat Manor.
Second terms have traditionally been unkind to Presidents, so there’s not much in it for him, (and we know that that is the polestar he steers by).
But the other side of the Alleged Hawaiian is that he is LAXY.
He let Pelosi and Reid do all the Health Care “Grunt Work”, and only stepped in basically at the last minute to put an “Obama” sticker on the result of the Congressional Soviet’s work.
So on one hand, he could wage a losing campaign for the White House and be “Cartered”, or he could step aside and spend his days writing books, giving speeches. and playing golf without the 24/7/365 hyper-critical scrutiny. Plus he would get to be the eminence grise of the DemocRats when carter gakks it, (the Clintons still make peoples skin crawl).
You tell me which he would find more attractive.
interesting take. it only leaves out his narcissistic personality.
true if health care holds he will have turned the USA into the same thing as russia.
the health care bill takes one sixth of the economy from taxproducers to tax consumers. that alone blows the economy out of the water …as in totally screwed. ..(there is no health care in the health care bill ..it is fully no health care)
the provisions giving the IRS access to your bank account etc …it will be over / done / cooked stick a fork in it.
Bilgeman writes: “I don’t think he’ll even run for re-election.”
I’ve enjoyed your thoughtful comments at PJM for some time now, Bilgeman. You’re one of the best commenters here. But if you don’t think he’s running, can I sell you a bridge in Brooklyn?
Can I finance the sale? I used to have some fun in Brooklyn when I had to catch a ship out of Noo Yawk.
Obviously, I’m speculating, but if His Oneness is as big a narcissist as some suspect, and as lazy as I suspect, I could see him deciding that he’s “bigger and better” than the job, declaring “victory” and going off to bedazzle Europeans and moonbats with his smart coolness.
Especially if he actually has to struggle in the second half of this term.
At least here’s hoping we can help make up his mind that his talents are being woefully wasted in the Oval Office.
I mean the man has a Nobel Peace prize for God’s sake…
“Especially if he actually has to struggle in the second half of this term.”
That is the key. Make it uphill work, 24/7.
So the press will go ballistic just like on Nov 2 or something.
That worked out well.
President Obama’s 2012 victory is giving into the current MSM hype; the Congress is just now getting into Obama’s Marxist policies which remain underwater in various polls. ObamaCare plus the endless government regulations will stifle job creation for the next 2 years. In other words, Obama’s policies must all be repealed to be effective. Unemployment will remain high plus the coming inflation will not help Obama at all. Obama’s Gulf oil moraturium will also hurt him with higer energy prices he wants for his Marxist “Green Energy” initiative coupled with the EPA Crap & TAx backdoor strategy. I don’t think Obama will get a second term for these reasons.
I pray you are right.
Way too soon to call.There are many families dealing with unemployment,foreclosure,and economy driven angst. The chances are that come election time the middle class income level job will be hard to find. International controversy will very likely produce wide spread concerns about expanded warfare. The rioting in other nations arising from economic strife will very likely be seen as the danger inherent in allowing government unionization.Add in any one of the above mentioned possibilities and a one term presidency is more than possible. Which party wins the presidency is more uncertain.
Obama’s popularity ratings and decisions above his pay grade are only day to day measurements. There are still many game changers between now and the next election. The what-ifs include: another terrorist attack, U.S. economic default, state’s bankrupcy, a supreme court date on Obama-care, and the ever politically deadly sudden increase in gasoline prices. The AP reports that his state of the union address will be about his economic successes. How much spin is required to shrug off the interest payments on $14 trillion debt?
I believe the Presidency is a popularity contest. Obama will no longer be new nor is he an endearing personality. Bill Clinton is a true natural charmer and was running amid a massive boom. Obama will have $5 gasoline, which he will use as a prop to lecture us on our evil energy consuming ways, and a poor economy.
Contrast that to a Palin campaign which will be a national revival meeting, with promises to get the government out of the way of prosperity, to drill for oil here, and a return to helping our allies and thwarting our enemies.
Those who dare win.
I think those on our side despair too much, too soon. The Democrats are running out of kitchen sinks to throw at Sarah, and they mostly bounce off having done no harm anyway. By the time she wins Iowa, attacking her will be passé; she will be the comeback kid.
Huckabee is the closest thing we have to Biden, he can be Veep, you know, to balance the ticket so all the RINOs can justify voting for her.
White Guilt? I don’t have ‘white guilt’. If there are white people who have this affliction, they need to get over it. White people have stood together and fought on many, many occasions with the blacks, not against them.
“White Guilt” is nothing more than a political mind game.
The left decry’s the right as wanting to go ‘back’ 100 or 200 years as an argument, yet they continually retreat back to those days when it will help them to win an agenda, argument or political points or spew white guilt.
For the Left the hypocrisy never ends. Let white guilt die the death it needs.
Thanks for this prediction; it’s a great motivator for thinking.
So far, all the ‘right-center’ is just more talk. Yet if you see what the EPA is doing as we blog and comment, gas will (if Hoffmeister is right) be $5/gallon by the election dates. That translates to economic problems. So far, he hasn’t traded all the radical czars/heads of agencies for non-academic, non-leftist types, and the war on energy and business continues apace. Americans have ditched the old MSM as a news source, according to Gallup polls and financial news. If he can’t shut down Fox and the internet, he won’t be able to continue his cycle of lying.
He’s just FDR reincarnated; however, this is not the 1930′s. BHO’s ‘Neo-fireside Chats’, along with his use of FDR’s vote-buying tactics, are up against what Rasmussen Polls show to be a center-right voter population. The impact of public unions is now exposed as the major threat to cities/states insolvency; in FDR’s day unions were just getting started and the U.S. was on the gold standard. It will be an interesting 18 months.
Most at PJM disagree, but the Tucson tactic worked brilliantly.
Let me explain it, with the benefit of hindsight:
- they were looking for a new Ok City incident to demagogue
- Tucson was it. They attacked Sarah Palin and Talk Radio with hatred…at 5000 decibels
- the O’Reilly/CK claim that the obvious lies “lost” the battle for libwits is laughable.
- in phase III, Palin and Talk Radio were demonized for responding, another success.
- phase IV: little lenin, after orchestrating the slander, called for “civility”, thus establishing himself as a “presidential” healer. This was also planned in advance.
- useful idiots O’Reilly, CK, etc. fell for phases III and IV like blushing schoolgirls
Results:
- 8 point poll pop for little lenin
- 8 point poll drop for Palin
- little lenin now firmly established as a moderate
- Republicans now scared to say boo
People, listen carefully. THERE ARE NO LIMITS ON WHAT THEY WILL DO. MSM criminals still has vast power and have freed themselves from lip-service to “the truth”. The fact that committed conservatives listen through other channels hardly impacts middle America.
If all that conservatives do is to sit back and whine about the unfairness of it all, little lenin WILL be reelected, which will be the end of the United States of America.
Republicans better learn to play hardball NOW, or 2013 will be the start of the most dangerous period in American history. There are tens of millions of us who aren’t fooled and who won’t tolerate it.
The arranged optics of the Tucson response worked well enough, in comparison to his moonbat mind-slaves at NYT and Kos and suchlike, The Alleged Hawaiian looked and sounded quite Presidential…exactly as his team had gamed it to.
The problem was with the audience. I watched the Tucson speech, and the optics and aurals of the crowd cheering like it was at a basketball game or pep rally really hurt Obama.
Only the most dullard would miss the message that Obama represents those boorish yahoos in that hall.
This is no different than one of the optics that changed race relations in the 1990′s and led to the GOP ’94 victory and welfare reform…the video of those racist idiots at Howard University in DC leaping to their feet and lustily cheering OJ Simpson’s acquittal.
To this day those fools will never admit how much that little filmed carryings-on cost them.
So, The Alleged Hawaiian got an 8 point bounce in the polls? I wouldn’t extrapolate too much from it. A dead cat bounces 8 points if you drop it from high enough. A few vidoes of Nancy Pelosi speaking publicly would likely erode that 8 points right sharply.
And all the mellifluous oratory in the world by His Oneness isn’t going to help his case when gasoline and diesel are at and over $5.00 a gallon…with the attendant price increases in food and energy and everything else that gets done via diesel power.
Obama Chin Music doesn’t pay the mortgage, heat the house, put food on the table or fill the gas tank, see?
If the Senate, which is well aware of what happened to House DemocRat members in “non-safe” gerrymandered seats, bucks Harry Reid and actually votes to repeal Obamacare, that will leave The Alleged Hawaiian a pretty stark choice of either killing his own signature legislation or casting a veto against the entire government aand expressed will of the electorate…he won’t be looking very Presidential THEN.
Obama actually has to do more than makee-talkee to get things done now, he’s fresh out of friends and allies in the Congress. Very few of those primadonnas are going to carry his water for him.
And working hard isn;t Obama’s long suit…I mean, when has he HAD to?
Believe me,I’d rather have OUR problems than THEIRS.
I hope you are right, but fear you are wrong.
First, an 8 point bounce is significant. But even if it fades, which it probably will, the Tucson con job is just one thing. There will be hundreds more. They won’t stop at anything. They are fighting their war to end all wars. If we don’t see it and counter it with every tool at our disposal, they will win, and it will be centuries of darkness.
Talk radio isn’t enough to counter 24x7x365 propaganda at 5000 decibels shouted from every rooftop.
Every Republican and every conservative pundit better grow themselves some pairs and challenge every one of these despicable lies, or this country is not going to be able to overcome little lenin’s fog machine.
like Proreason I hope you are correct.
but the idiot in chief still has a lot of supporters and I don’t hear the drums letting up. the republicans are still to eager to compromise. I say start with the debt ceiling …give them warning now that they need to cut the spending. PERIOD.
the republicans will easily end up looking like the bad guys if they don’t take hold of the language and stick to the cutting program.
Thanks.The three of you are engaged in the kind of well reasoned ,civil political banter and debate that makes my time with PJM so worthwhile.
I am undecided which outlook is most probable, but I wish to throw anther notion in the pot, for what it’s worth. I wonder how receptive BO might be to a persuasive offer to retire from the white house and enjoy an untested future, get out while the getting is good.I believe a smart ex- 1st black president, even with radical left leanings, could lead a life of high style and relatively unchallenged power, prestige, and adoration.Going out on top, a veritable hero, just might suit this guy.
And Moochelle.
Well-said and my thoughts exactly. Now Obama has assumed a paper tiger posture by “warning” China to become more involved in policing North Korea because he wants to appear tough on defense. We have to look at it this way: conservatives have to think of the most underhanded tricks possible that we would then reject doing because they’re beneath us, and then we have to be ready to see them coming from the Left and pre-empt them. New rules.
Now that is some good advice.
Yes, the most important thing is conquering the Senate, and stopping any further socialist regime building.
But the extraordinary mobilization of left-wing voters of 2008 will not repeat in 2012, there is a chance to take down the red flag from the White House.
But we have to work hard.
And serenely.
Let’s pray.
Rogers your assumptions are based on old paradigm. BHO is not your typical center lefty. He is outright Marxist, and the Americans understood it. He may try to fake it once more but it will not work. Because his action will not match the his rhetoric. We just witnessed the Tuscon speech, for all the media hype and praising,
the facts speak for itself. the event looked more liked peep rally than memorial.
It’s true that 2012 wont be easy and the GOP can blew the next election, but BHO is not a shoe in either.
What do you think of Marco Rubio. He certainly has charisma, and might win the “hearts” of the voters.
They have nowhere else to go, except perhaps running Dennis Kucinich in the primaries, which would be comic relief.
What the heck is wrong with the people of Ohio to keep re-electing this guy ?
The same thing that is wrong with the people of Michigan who persistently re-elect John Dingell or the people of Vermont who keep re-electing Patrick Leahy ? Or the people of California who just re-elected two of the most extreme (and marginally insane) individuals to ever come down the pike, Barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelosi ?
Steve Cohen ? Debbie Wasserman Schultz ?
Congress is filled with dangerously idiotlogical morons. The media (legacy ? lapdog ?) who mechanically report their meanderings and utterings aren’t much elevated.
It’s not hard to predict that his State of the Union address will stress cutting the deficit…
Given the explosion of the debt in 2 short years, that part of the speech should be pretty funny.
I ask, just for the record, why should the American taxpayer even be responsible for the Obama administration’s egregious, over the top spending ?
If Obama has to tilt right to win, he will tilt right.
Unfortunately, Barack Obama is learning how the self-presentation game is played, how “I won, shut up and let me get about transforming America” isn’t going to cut it.
Leopards don’t change their spots, tigers don’t change their stripes, but, in setting up the prey for the kill, they’re both adept at camouflage.
sadly they are in the image of many of the voters.
something for nothing parasites the education system keeps pumping out ..or should I say pimping out.
Yes, degradation of individuals who can achieve election to Congress reflects degradation in the society at large.
Which decline has been cultivated, Obama reaping what others have intentionally sown over decades.
In answer to one part of your question: gerrymandering. Debbie Wasserman Schultz is a product of the most gerrymandered district in the country.
Well I might be wrong, but it seems to me that the “teen idol Obama” is losing his allure with the younger set. Remember, their attention span is not that great and they have moved on to other pop culture icons. I don’t think Obammy can count on them like he did in 2008. I could be wrong but I think reading tee shirts is a pretty good indication of where the young stand on things. Maybe those mommy jeans he wore to toss out the first ball, or those ugly-ass shorts and flip flops he wore in Hawaii have now revealed him as more of a nerd than a pop idol.
…image is everything.
your comment has several possible answers .
1) there are no mirrors in the white house.
2) there is no one who will tell the idiot he looks like an idiot.
3) the narcissist believes he looks great even if someone tells him he looks like an idiot
4) michelle dresses him …like she does herself. (yes I know …. that makes two idiots look like idiots)
Interesting and hopeful comment, susan, but I think you are likely to be wrong. In favor of your thesis, little lenin’s continuation of many of bushhitlers war/national security polcies can’t help with the Yut vote. On the other hands, repubs better come up with someone appealing or Yuts simply won’t see an alternative.
But I think the dominant factors are the brainwashability of people under 35, and the dedicated brainwashers who populate our schools and colleges. It takes a real independent Yut to see through that propaganda. The best hope, I think, is low turnout, rather than turning the minds of so many mindless tools.
……….and congress defunding acorn and all the other names it goes under or the vote will be predetermined.
Much of what has happened in the past 12 months in elections and elsewhere, very strongly favoring conservative Republicans and Tea Party-ers, is a direct result of Obama’s SOCIALIST tendancies — and known origin of the authorship of Obamacare. Obama has tried (blog this) and failed miserably to reclaim his past approval from Americans who now know the real Obama — an extremely radical, deadly abortionist, socialist with blocked birth certificate, college records, etc.
Roger L. Simon is still masturbating. He has in front of him a magazine, like a teenage boy, showing that sexy nude blond in the fold-out, which he can never have — but it provides perverted excitement for the moment.
Obama will no more be elected again than will Jeremiah Wright.
I sincerely hope you are correct. I don’t think we can survive another 4 years of this character. If you look at the past 2 years and we double down on that …..?
What you are saying is that the established Media are the only element in our politics that matter. How they spin Obama will determine the election result, and the American People are stupid enough to forget everything they know about Obama and re-elect him.
If true, you are quoting the wrong William Morris as ultimate authority.
You still don’t “get” what’s going on in the country (a failing that surprises me with you), and have provided us with a standard, inside-the-box political analysis. Be prepared to revise and extend, sir.
I can’t help but think that the blame scream media wants conservatives to believe that Owe-bama is undefeatable and Sarah Palin unelectable to make us over-think and over-scrutinize our candidate and thus divide our votes. My rule of thumb: whatever liberals and their lap dog media say is the opposite of what they think and of what reality is. “Repeat it, repeat it, repeat it like Goebbels and people will believe it.” Not this time. If they attack Palin the most, she is our best candidate. Courage of convictions rather than empty, dishonest, pretty words and catchy slogans is my main requirement for my 2012 vote.
Just as things were looking up, Obama’s annual job approval average puts him near the postwar bottom
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/01/obama-job-approval-low-gallup.html
First of all, I don’t think things are going to improve in the next two years. Prices, especially gas, will continue to go up, unemployment will stay the same or get worse, our enemies will continue to play Obama for the fool. We’ll be lucky if we don’t go into a severe depression. The USD might not be the world’s default currency for much longer, which would be catestrophic. Obama’s appointed CZARS will continue to impose cripping regulations.
So despite Obama’s worthless rhetoric and the media’s cheerleading, I think the public will not be happy and get rid of him, like they did Carter. Carter is the appropriate example, not Clinton — who enjoyed a good economy at election time, though he had nothing to do with it.
Roger – There is NO WAY Obama will become a centrist or a center-right guy.
Reagan took 20 + years to be taken seriously as a Republican. Besides, Reagan was a Blue Dog Democrat when younger.. whereas Obama is as hard Left as they come.
Obama’s ego has been and will continue to be his demise (as was the case in his Olpympic bid, persuading PM Merkel to go Kenynesian, selling ‘transparency’ and being anything but, etc.,)
Your, ‘a ninth grader running for middle school president’ comment was ~the same reaction I had when reading Obama’s WSJ op-ed! I mean, I thought this guy was a ‘genius’ and such. The op-ed is evidence of a, and lets face it, an individual with an average intellect person.
Lastly, and I know most have already pounced on it.. Obama’s nonsensical deregulating comment of saccharin (?).. this guy is more out of touch with reality than even I gave him credit for..!!
there is nothing centrist about obama.
he has consistently done exactly what he said he would do.
he got to the top of the dung pile by doing what he is doing right now. he has beat everyone. HOW ? people are stupider then will like to think. (and McCain was the rival) …and I am sure he cheated both in his election financing and at the ballot box.
just like harry reid ..no way he won the last election. NO WAY!
I HAVE to agree with you in wondering how Reid pulled it off?
Granted, Angle was a strange and loopy person at times, though NOTHING compared to the CONSTANT foot-in-mouth-disease of Reid EVERYTIME he opened his mouth the last 6, 7 years.
The man has NO scrupels. While Nevada has been suffering for years in a myriad of areas, and prior to the election, Reid tried to say the state’s demise is not his fault!
His comment, ‘If you’re an Hispanic, he can’t fathom how can you vote Republican. (whaaaa?)
High unemployment, foreclosed homes (YEARS before the 2008 crisis), DREADFUL public education, illegal aliens, crime and ‘entitlement’ programs.. and this dude won! Handily! Wow..
Though it’s really no different than Hilary Clinton’s NY run in 2000. Remember Clinton lost nearly every district to Lazio but picked up NYC.. booya. She wins.
Reid was ‘bequethed’ the nod from the casino unions/industry and BAM, Reid’s singing Queen’s, ‘We Are the Champions’ again. Crazy..
Got to be careful there, the new national policy of civility and make nice…for right wingers, you understand.
With leftists, conservatives are always fair game for the crosshairs stuff, expecially if any GOP’er name doesn’t bring up a fat juicy searchbotload of ethic violations or criminal complaints…;p
Hi Sule. I liken the ‘..national policy of civility..’ to racist Tom Clyburn’s urging of the ‘Fairness Doctrine’(you know, for ‘fairness’. It ‘has’ to be implemented to water down rational thought, discussion and accountability of race baiting aristocrats like Mr. Clyburn), whereas it’s not implemented so to speak, but the intention is just below the surface..
How do people like Clyburn have ANY forum is beyond contempt..
You forgot one thing: the price of oil. If a gallon of gasoline soars to $4, $5 per gallon or higher under an administration that has shut down domestic oil exploration while funding it overseas (eg Brazil) and a President who has publicly stated that he WANTS higher and higher fuel prices, there is little chance Obama will be re-elected. I don’t believe that blaming high fuel costs on Bush will work except on the brain dead (ie leftists).
Mark, that’s a story I’ve been chewing on for some time now.
Interior Secretary Ken Salazar is getting NO backlash due to his incompetence following the April gulf spill.
In numerous memes, I S Salazar states the need for ‘researching/funding alternative energy practices’ ad infintum.
Yet, it’s BP whose getting taken through the ringer via DoJ and numerous other government agencies.
The feds get more revenue from fuel taxes than said ‘evil oil companies’.
It takes 2 to tango, government’s incompetence and their lack of oversight on regulating policy and inspection of said BP rigs (hiya Salazar) and BP disregarding and continuing to implement said failed policies. Though it’s ONLY BP getting the wag of the finger. Unbelievable..
The backlash has come in Obama’s repudiation in the November elections; however, inflation is coming soon too on top of the rising price of oil to do the Gulf Oil Moratorium. Obama cannot stop this slide in time for 2012. Energy will be a issue with the Obama Administration & the 2010 Gulf Oil Disaster is the focal point. It’s not over.
Clinton still wasn’t out of the woods in the early summer of 1996 when he signed welfare reform, and that’s the problem Obama faces — he can’t just spend 20-plus months talking triangulation, sooner or later he’s got to actually get something passed that shows to the moderate swing voters he did learn a lesson from the 2010 election. Plus, what Clinton abandoned was LBJ’s creation; the main program Obama’s going to be asked to scuttle was the one he backed getting Pelosi and Reid to pass, so killing his own creation figures to be far tougher.
And even if he does show the nerve to do that, that in itself creates another problem, because Clinton was able to triangulate between the House and Senate GOP and the now-out-of-power far left Congressional Democrats, vetoing welfare reform twice before finally giving in, after he had created the idea that he was between Congress and those who wanted to keep the Great Society welfare system in place forever. Obama’s going to have to situate himself between the House GOP and the Senate Democrats on things like his own health care plan, and for the 23 Democrats in the Senate facing re-election, there’s the question of if they’re willing to play the bad guy and let Obama get to their right (if he even wants to).
many of us on here (myself included) KNEW the emperor was naked way before his election and elevation to royalty-
However the masses that did vote for the O, are in no way miffed or upset with him- he is still their darling boy-the TUCSON event proves the fawning, drooling and cheering has not faded. I remember and Obotic telling me her experince of the inaugrual was transcendent- she compared to her genreation WOODSTOCK moment – a bonding not easily forgotten- I remember the faces of black people- this was an almost religous moment for them– This dream and fantasy willnot be let go of easily- I live in MOONIE VILLE-I see/hear it every day- the defensiveness if you dare criticize- They passed DADT- in their minds a slap in face to all you homphobic racists- socialism is not a bugaboo to them- they LIKE THAT! THey are sympathetic to Muslims and Obama -
Yeas O is narcissistic but our culture loves such people- idolizes them- narcissist, who believe thier own omnipotence are actually very effecdtive at conning others (Jim Jones, Hitler etc)
I am sad to say I agree the REPS will lose to the O. I have defended SP b/c Ihate to see any womnaor person treated so unfairly or smeared with lies but really she cannot win an election by being the NOT OBAMA- Thereis not one single REP that has the charisma, the draw, the excitement to win- I wish it were not so, but I don’t see any cohesive plan or organizing or campaigning from REP party
the DEMS have already held their first very sucessful rally for O- creepy and big brotherish as it was for you and me to witness- THEY LOVED IT- they ate it up- they HEILED in unity and brotherhood-the media cover it like a REVIVAL meeting- they have that and we don’t- reason, fairness, sensible plans all PALE in comparison to what they have- people vote with their emotions and facts be damned
Almost to a last woman, the white suburban matrons who pulled the lever for the first black president in history and felt s-o-o-o good about themselves for doing so have learned their lesson, and will not commit economic suicide for the sake of a gesture a second time. That’s why Barry will go down to a resounding defeat in 2012.
This being an immature fascist/communist dictatorship, they count the votes, no matter who votes what. Plus, they sit on a $1 trillion stimulus money pot to pay-off those among the “press” and “opinion-makers” who might veer off the state message, to elect the kenyan/indonesian fraud.
Besides, in the Fall 2010, the deal was the GOP gets the House, and Soetoro keeps the Senate and gets six more years in the WH.
The GOP has no (and won’t have any) real alternative to the Great Leader; Huckabee was an alternative, but the Seattle killings of four cops took care of that. For a period, Sarah Palin was not getting the message, and the Tucson massacre took care of that, too.
Another Bob Dole will emerge soon though for the GOP, there’re so many potential Dob Dolies around for the dem/rep establishment to pick from.
Neither shooting is even germane to this discussion. Huckabee and Palin were both in the right, and frankly, the population doesn’t really care about the paranoia of Progressives.
Not ‘germane’?
I’m sorry, this isn’t a discussion about 2012?
Obviously, wrong thread/”population”.
Mr. Simon — Your problem is that you are insulated from the real concerns of the mass of people. Which is the Economy, the Economy, the Economy.
Which in turn is in BAD SHAPE.
The cost of living is sky-rocketing: food, fuel, clothing, energy, all rising sharply while wages stagnate, jobs are not added, and a mass of illegal aliens and H1-B visa holders depress wages and prevent any dot-com type wage boom.
Bill Clinton got re-elected, because oil was $17 a barrel (about $24 a barrel today inflation adjusted) and the dot-com boom added jobs like crazy.
Obama can ONLY win if the economy recovers radically, making the question “are you better off now than you were four years ago?” one of “Yes” rather than “No!”
Add to this adventurism by Iran, a falling apart Pakistan, China, and we can have massively destructive oil shocks (from $100 a barrel today to say, $300 in a month). Or severe disruption of supply chains by an invasion of South Korea by the North. Already we have States “exploring” bankruptcy (causing a run on Munis).
Obama won’t be judged like he was in 2008 — an “option” to replace failed economic leadership. He’ll be judged the way GWB was in 2008, on how effective he was in creating wealth for ordinary people. Speeches, Press worship, media spin, jigged polls, won’t matter. What matters is how many people get paychecks every month, and what they have to spend on food, gas, clothing, and energy. The amount of money they have left over and their feelings about it will determine who gets to be President.
[The economy, from commodities to oil to munis to the Euro to State budgets is a disaster zone only getting worse. Caterpillar created 18,000 new jobs this year -- in CHINA!]
We need a Knight from King Arthur’s Court to bring confidence back to the highest office in the land and just a few years ago the world. He who has not background could win again. When I was working my first job Jimmy Carter was president. He had me laying awake at night because every week I would return from a sales trip and another person was laid off. Was I next? The economic collapse then and now are a congressional and presidential initiated fall. They think that government control and mandates can fix what was damaged by controls and mandates. If you remember to those times Jimmy Carter was being portrayed as having high popularity even up to the election. Even Abscam with all the Democrats in Philly on video taking suitcases of cash didn’t seem to effect the poll numbers. Thank God President Reagan had the giant of a man persona to pull the dumbfounded voters away from uncle Jimmy.
Well, I have read the comments above me here, those that agree with Roger, those that disagree and those that I could barely make a lick of sense out of…and while many were insightful and clearly written by some very bright folks, I came away feeling something entirely different than virtually everyone.
Roger’s article hit a chord with me because it circled not just a date on the calendar, but an enormous point to consider, deeply and thoughtfully.
There is NO consensus candidate for Republicans. More plainly put, there is a deep divide for the anti-hard left camp…which includes hard right, “RINO’s”, libertarians, independents and the “center right”.
Obama is going to get promoted from now until then, daily, by the lapdog media. (only in America would a far left propaganda mill be called “mainstream” in a center right country…it’s so incongruous…it would be like calling a unicycle a “mainstream vehicle” for Indy 500)
The lapdog media has skin in the game. They are no more interested in objective truth than they are in memorizing the phone book.
The push in the same direction, each and every day…is in stark contrast to the Republican free for all…and the likelihood that a clear, bright light will shine down on one Republican candidate is next to nil.
Like it or not, ANY candidate who does not capture the “center” of the country, is going to lose.
And, relying solely or even primarily on Obama’s “negatives” is not a battle plan. It’s a suicide pact. He will not only cover over them…his propaganda ministry in his pocket will bury them with a shovel so deep, it will produce lava flow.
Stanley Kurtz proved for anyone paying attention, that Obama is seeped in hard, hard, hardcore leftism. He is to the left of MSNBC. But the lapdog media will not let the mask fall off their Lone Ranger.
He will soothe the fears and speak in comforting tones, because that is the methodology he has used the whole of his life.
He will face NO internal serious opposition and he will be licked from head to toe by the lapdogs. Barring a serious and unforseen catastrophe, his smooth road will allow him to race to the finish line ahead of the very bumpy road, filled with potholes, land mines and rusty nails planted for the Republicans every step of the way by the propagandists.
There is no rallying PERSON to galvanize the anti-Obamists. Not yet. And..not one that I see on the horizon who can overcome this hugely unfair advantage. Truth will not win out…because it is no longer important enough to us as a country to fight for…and that’s the saddest part of all of this.
Roger Simon’s piece was quite simple, short and succinct, and its message is clearly written on the title of the article.
Now, what did you add with your lengthy remarks that either Roger and all others prior to you didn’t touch, except to condescendingly insult some of the posters?
Michelle Bachmann
It sounds like you are forfeiting the game to the ‘lapdog media’.
Why not try standing up to and refuting the ‘lapdog media’ instead?
This surrender monkey garbage makes me want to vomit.
You forgot to factor in economic apocalypse.
Hmmm. Perhaps I should clarify.
Roger made some solid points. SOME of the people who responded, did so with their usual brilliance and insights. Those folks are regulars here for the most part.
SOME of the people, went of on inane rants. They are NOT regulars, or at least I don’t recognize them. I could hardly make sense out of what they were saying.
The lapdog media is not something to which this nation should surrender…for my part, I have been fighting them tooth and claw for quite a while, as anyone familiar with my posts and essays will attest. However, they are effective in their dishonorable behavior. It would be counterproductive to suggest anything other than a huge impact on every national election. Their biased, slanted, dishonest coverage beats up opponents of leftist Democrats and artificially puffs up that same crowd.
1)Infighting, internal smearing, name calling by various factions against candidates opposing Obama will take its toll.
2)No consensus candidate who can galvanize and pull together the entire anti-leftists in this land will take its toll.
3)Lapdog smear campaigns and false light media campaigns will be a river, reaching a torrent in October.
4)Obama will have hardly a breath of opposition, saving all his ammo and dough for the general.
5)Obama will hide in plain sight, pretending to be something he is not, because you CAN fool some of the people, all of the time.
This should feel a compliment to the very bright and articulate regulars. If it insults or condescends to leftists or loudmouth extremists of any stripe…so be it.
And, it is not a flag of surrender…as much as a beacon to patriots. We are in a contest where the playing field isn’t level and the refs are crooked.
“loud mouth ‘extremists’” ?
“Moderates” among the GOP and Independents are the “useful idiots” who contributed to us being in the abyss we’re in.
“Moderates” accept the fraud in the WH;
“Moderates” attack Sarah Palin and the Tea Party;
“Moderates” will “re-elect” the fraud.
“Moderates” are the ones who say ‘forget about social conservative ideas, let’s concentrate on fiscal conservativism’ without realizing that it’s cultural rot what drives societies to the abyss, the bifurcation from a religious, moral and ethical stand.
Finally, it’s “moderates” who seek a “unifying figure” in the GOP, an idiotic code phrase for “shut up and sit down, patriots” and let us continue driving this country to the ditch.
A response to your “loud extremists” remark, and about the “moderates,” was supplied, but obviously it was blacked out.
Don’t complain about the abyss we’re in, just look in the mirror.
Oops, it now appeared !
The GOP has to get up off its duff and compete for votes by showing it is fitter to govern than the Democrats. That means doing things that are in the interest of the US first and the GOP second; getting a coherent message across to the voters about common sense limits to government, ways for individuals and businesses to create wealth, restoring the rule of law, reducing expenditures and reforming health care.
The time is past where saying ‘no’ is the best strategy. Now they must develop and explain and stoutly defend a “Rebuild America” platform. You don’t win games on practice ice – you win them on game day. Game day is here.
Sean Trende @ Jay Cost have it right. Demographics will play against Obama. He’s lost whites by enough of a margin that it will be difficult for him (or the Dems) to come back. That’s the game. He broke trust with them and too many have been turned off. Clinton got back in because frankly the stakes weren’t very high. Now the margin’s run out and people will be looking at another four years of the same… there might be marginal improvement in the economy but nothing dramatic enough to give much hope, assuming the statist policies continue.
Don’t focus on the Republican candidates at this stage– all that drama emerges as the race starts in earnest. Suddenly you’ll have leadership flowing from every pore, unexpected oments on the trail, etc…. The big correctional dynamics are in place. I’ll take the over/under at Repubs winning 295 in EC and a pop vote margin of 53%. Insert cadidate of your choice, as vetted by the process.
The big difference from Clinton’s comeback (upon which Roger’s assumptions are — consciously or not — predicated), is that this time there’s an alternative media and Fox News.
Oh, yeah, and the Tea Party. Of course, the Tea Party could be problematic, depending on whether the lamestream media is able to demonize them effectively and/or they get stupid themselves.
Also, the economy was in better shape prior to ’96, and was booming that election year. The Republicans were unable to make the case that they were chiefly responsible for the climate that allowed for the prosperity (hence the label “Stupid Party”).
Maybe the GOP will be as stupid and hapless this time around, but they have to know that it’s important for them to take the lion’s share of the credit for any economic recovery that mey be in the offing. If they succeed in repealing Obamacare, they have to trumpet that and come up with attractive alternatives that the public will accept (and again, make sure that Obama can’t take credit for that).
The other thing for the GOP and alternative media to do is to expose the massive corruption that has to be going on as a result of the profligate spending, and to harp on the borderline disloyalty/sabotage in foreign affairs and immigration. If they can exploit these issues effectively, enough Americans will sober up and vote for even a lackluster GOP alternative. Or maybe monkeys will fly out of my butt.
Opinions are like, well you know what….everyone has one. Whenever I see a poll, someone who says “I like so and so but they aren’t qualified, are polarizing, have too many negatives…blah, blah, blah or an opinion like this that promotes defeat before the campaign has begun, I know they are not on our side. Pay no attention to those liberals behind the curtain.
I’ve thought about this. Tucson was a bounce. The Repubs are in pre-disarray disarray. Palin took a hit on her eight-minute denial speech. Still, Barry is still very unpopular. As Terry wrote earlier, the world is in a world of hurt, stability-wise. The international players hostile to the US are having a field day. The US economy is still in deep trouble. The voters are not immune to any of this. People like a nice speech, and Obama seemed nearly sincere in Tucson. And it was a horrible scene, but watch the economy sputter or fall (and it will do one of the two), and he will have a severe uphill fight – but only if the Republicans come up with a viable, charismatic and even unifying candidate.
Roger, I hope you are wrong. Events have a lot to do with who wins and who loses and there is still plenty of time for Obama to screw up and lose.
This President, out and about today telling bizness (slightly paraphrased here) …”We’re gonna get back to what made America great, doin’ stuff and makin’ stuff…like Thomas Edison”
(Congress recently outlawed Edison’s lightbulb)
I’ll bet bizness is just soaring on Obama’s rhetoric and that business men and women are really excited about the new commission set up to study stuff about “jobs” and stuff.
(any self-respecting American should be embarrassed)
Charles Krauthammer described Obama on “the gnus” tonight…
“repositioning for perception”
1.- We need too do our media exploit now and go on the offensive. We need to be seen and heard loudly, every one of us, no matter how big or small our audience is, . This is where I think some of us have a natural political instinct and advantages, and Sarah Palin is a mover and shaker here, how long till she comes up with a deadly line like death panels?
2.- Even if Obamao gets to project a “centrist” image, we need to go Alinsky now and point to what he is doing as the infernal thing it is: just a step closer to socialism.
This is frighteningly hopeless drivel to pander what with two years of progressive liberal screw-ups, slander and sneaky setups left to devastate the collective reality. Buyer’s remorse set in early in many American minds; one needn’t look any further for proof than the midterm elections.
But the GOP has to do better than offer up a milquetoast, pantywaist RINO like Huckabee or Romney and they must do better than Palin who, if truth be told, is very similar to President Walking Eagle; both are cut from mostly charismatic material, not that of true leadership. The striking difference being Palin has actually done some constructive things with hers but Peter’s Principle must apply. The good news is that she is now positioned for and doing exactly what she was born to do – energize regular Americans to get into the fight to take back our country. She is the ringleader the GOP so desperately needs and they must get serious about embracing her in that role.
The GOP’s last, best hope is to present Americans with a conservative, adult 2012 ticket instead of the irresponsible diversion that was the 2008 Grandpa & Gidget sideshow. Personally I’d be for a Pence/DeMint ticket or one with Rubio or Ryan on it. And then begin a serious onslaught on the federal government; dismantling it agency by entitlement, right down to the bare bones intended by the Constitution.
Excellent post! I have been waiting for someone to suggest Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio. They are the young fresh faces of the GOP. No more pallid, wimpy, boring RINOS, or we are doomed.
This is the pattern being applying to us, and what we need to break:
1.- lefty gets the power
2.- lefty push hard to the left
3.- American public reacts and put some righty to check and balance
4.- lefty stops the push and gets centrist
5.- lefty gets re-elected
6.- by the time the pendulum swing to the right, the lefty agenda done before the centrist farce is already solid and cemented, and probably the right have forgotten about it completely
I offer some points:
We need a right wing agenda, a document, call it like “Contract with America”, “America, back to basics” or as you like. But this means:
a.- whether lefty gets re-elected or not, the Document still guides us to repeal, defund, shut down, abrogate every lefty step done before
b.- show the party not only as the “party of no” but also as the party of the guidance, of the future
I also think the first Republican to do this document (or revitalize some previous dcument) will get the highlight and the pole position for the 2012 run. And I hope it will be Sarah Palin.
And stop being nice!
This means: every time the former hardcore lefty gets shellacked, and therefore turn to the center as new centrist, seems to me all the political spectrum is willful to give the lefty another oportunity… no way!. NOW is the time to say loudly and clear: if you really are getting centrist, the undo the already caused damage! What? Are you chosing a former GM CEO as Job’s Czar? NOT ENOUGH: you should undo the bailouts and let the dead enterprises to be buried.
Don’t be nice, don’t retreat, don’t stop: reload and advance.
Conservatives need to work to keep the focus on the economy and jobs. If the focus is on personality and appearance, the President will be re-elected easily. But if the focus is on jobs, economic security and overall financial viability, then voters will choose the best candidate, which probably will not be Obama. The sinking economy is what empowers the Tea Party. If Republicans are smart, they will set social issues aside and focus relentlessly on improving the economy.
Leaving aside the possibility the GOP nominates Palin, no triangulating to the center will matter if there is not a serious economic recovery by 2012, without accompanying runaway inflation.
I don’t think Obama needs 5% unemployment to win re-election, but I would think 8% would be the highest he can get away with. The problem is, if the unemployment rate IS going to get that low by Nov 2012 the economy needs to start turning around right now. It would take 3-4 months of solid economic growth before hiring will resume, and about a year of resumed hiring before the unemployment rate starts to drop (once the economy recovers, people who had given up looking for work will re-enter the market, and will again be counted as unemployed). AND all this needs to happen without runaway inflation.
See I don’t consider myself a pollyanna, and I definately agree that Obama will be harder to beat than he looked on Nov 2, but I don’t see how what I just outlined above can happen — and I don’t see how he can win if it doesn’t.
Roger, here’s Rachel’s assessment of your assessment of Obama’s chances in 2012.
It’s as if you were shooting for the pin on a 230 yard par 3. You take your 3 iron smoothly back, keeping the left elbow straight. Then starting your weight shift, you bring the club down into the slot, dropped the head of the club perfectly on the ball, which flies high and long, with a slight draw.
Your Titleist PRO V1X lands pin high three inches right of flag.
Article was dead on.
Union Membership in U.S. Fell to a 70-Year Low Last Year
“The number of American workers in unions declined sharply last year, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported on Friday, with the percentage slipping to 11.9 percent, the lowest rate in more than 70 years.
The report found that the number of workers in unions fell by 612,000 last year to 14.7 million, an even larger decrease than the overall 417,000 decline in the total number of Americans working.
“It was a very tough year for unionized workers,” said John Schmitt, a senior economist with the Center for Economic and Policy Research in Washington. “We’re seeing declines in the private sector, and we’re seeing declines in the public sector.”
And more public and private layoffs coming. This is not going to help the Dems.
Thanks Roger. Since I can not bear the thought of the first ‘American Idol’ president lording it over us until January 2017 (when he hands the reigns of the 34 or so states left in the union to president elect Hillary Clinton), I can swallow the Hemlock now and save myself the horror of even having to wait until 2012. That was The year when I thought we had a chance to rid ourselves of the mistake of 08, forever. Fare thee well suckers.
Olby is out. Yay!His spawn will soon follow and MSNBC will become:
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The left is already trying to determine who the best candidate the Republicans can run against Barry will be by their support of both Romney and Huckabee. Either of those two as Presidential candidates will ensure that Barry will be in the White House in 2012. My choice is for Sarah Palin, and yeah I know so many people simply despise her but the truth is the truth and the truth is that Palin is a straight shooter who will tell the truth and get in the face of anyone who is trying to make America less then the country we know it can be. Of course the Progs are scared of her and they have somewhat convinced wobbly kneed Republicans of how dangerous and unqualified she is to be President and how damaging she will be to the country. But Sarah speaks from her heart and we can hear her!! Go Sarah!!!
Just a few problems with your hypothesis, first, business-friendly William Daley is not business friendly any more than Jeffery Immelt cares a damn about any business other than GE. The economy will still be a major issue, and then there is that little thing about his signature project, ObamaCare. Forgetting about a total lack of competence throughout this administration (which is hard to do) it is going to be pretty hard for a non-administrator to rein in the leftist group of innumerable czars and other interest groups who stray from the farm. Then there is the little thing about the arrogance of the man, he is so disconnected with people that he has no idea that feeding lobster and prime rib to the Chinese premier, while every other American is pulling in on their belt is not too cool even to the die-hard Obama maniacs. The election is twenty months away, you make no allowance for unintended consequence. In Sept. 2008 McCain was ahead in the polls, he lost the election to a man with no experience, no resume, whose negatives have been consistently in the minus column since June of 2009 and that with the MSM hype in his pocket. My guess is that the charade is over and Obama has shown no ability beyond showmanship. A decent candidate will destroy Obama in debates just as McCain destroyed Obama in the Saddlebrook debate. You fail to take into account the one thing that Obama knows, there is no substance behind the mask.
C’mon. He’s been a reasonable guy for a whole month, for most of which Congress wasn’t even in session. Let’s see how things look a year from now. It’s hard to think a completely feckless foreign policy won’t catch up with us at some point, for one thing.
” Obama is a supreme narcissist and, for such a person, advancement of self trumps ideology virtually anytime. Forget the mind-numbing palaver about sticking to his ideals even if it means losing the election. If Obama has to tilt right to win, he will tilt right. ”
I believe you are exactly right in that analysis Mr Simon, except I believe that President Obama is an ideologist, who is an Islamist. Obama in my view is also a pragmatist and he will only push things as far he can in support of Islamism, that he believes he can get away with. Obviously, he will have more opportunity to support Islamsm, if he is re-elected in 2012 than if he isn’t, so one can expect him to take a progressively less sympathetic approach to Islamism as the 2012 election gets closer, unless he believes he is unelectable, in which case he will likely do as much as he could to support Islamism, short of the point it would be obvious even to well intended MSNBC viewers that, al-Qaeda or the Saudi Ministry of Religious Affairs and Dawa, is effectively running the White House. Since Obama at this point in time has a reasonable chance of being re-elected in 2012 and baring any major change on that, he will I presume, moderate his support for Islamism in the run up to 2012.
This president doesn’t like to work and I think he will either not run for office, or he won’t put much effort into the campaign. He certainly prefers a life of leisure and parties, as is witnessed and paid for by American tax payers. Maybe he will get an offer to work part time at the UN. All in all, how can any of us forget what he planned for us? Never forget!!!
You can’t beat somebody with nobody. A PRACTICAL GOP would coalesce around Romney, who would be at least 30% better than Obama by your standards, and could win with the same kind of appeal he used to beat liberals in Mass. Instead, God knows who will get the nomination and even if it were Romney, enough people will grumble so much about RINO’s blah blah blah that we will get four more years of Obama.
The good news is that with Obama in the White House and the GOP controlling one or both houses of Congress, the country will probably be better off than with either party in full control.
Are you under the weather, Dwight
This is your first post in weeks that doesn’t revel in the Tucson murders.
When love fades, you know something is amiss.
Revel in the Tucson murders? Do you just say anything that pops into your head?
Wrong, Dwight. Romney would be worse than Obama, because a declared enemy is far better than a false friend.
I don’t know, Roger. Is this for real or are you just testing us?
Of course, the poll numbers, up for Obama and down for Palin, are discouraging, and, yes, the usual suspects are as dishonest and thuggish as always, but it’s a very long way to 2012 . . .
I feel like I’ve landed in the middle of a Viagra convention. With all these reasons why we can’t possibly win, we might as well give up now and not even bother to fight. Romney should go on the road as a pitch man for Grecian Formula. Mr. Huckabee is a really nice, well-meaning guy who’s even more of a limp d**k than Carter. Chris Christie thinks Islam is a religion of peace, and keeps cordial company with many of its bad actors. We’re WAY past the need for someone with charisma and cosmetic appeal. We need a strong, tough, honest person with unshakeable moral character and a backbone of steel who believes in American exceptionalism and all of our founding principles body and soul, and who actually has the brass to live them and will LEAD us in living them, too. We’ve got somebody and she CAN win—if we start SAYING SHE CAN and it’s Sarah Palin. We need to unite behind her, get off our duffs, and launch a pr campaign (and as the daughter of an ad man–one with integrity, unlike the stereotypes currently depicted on TV– I’m qualified to help all of us remember that real pr is simply getting the truth of our message out to folks in terms of how it will benefit them, and doing it with arresting punch, class, and style that doesn’t insult them in the process). It blows my mind that “Republicans,” the putative masters of the business class who should have access to those most gifted in the communications field, can’t seem to master this elementary tool for getting elected, with the grand exception of November, LED by Sarah Palin unleashed. The brand should have hit back fast and hit back hard after Tucson, but instead, all these jerks the RNC still has the gall to be proposing as “Presidential” in their polls were cowering in a corner sucking their thumbs. Who among us had the guts to stand up and say what needed to be said? By d**n, there’s that Palin woman again. A couple months ago, a poster on AT gifted us with this wonderful motto use by the British cavalry at the Somme in 1914: “We’ll do it. What is it?” Bertrand Russell famously wrote that “Intellect except at white heat is very apt to be trivial.” Let’s stop being canonical lawyers here and start inspiring one another and getting our story out, and stop this insipid, fruitless disputation. We’ve got a long, hard, dirty slog ahead of us!
Good comment. We need to battle the Democrat Party and the Media Party. They could be considered one and the same. But, whatever; War it is, and they’ll fight with all they’ve got.
That’s the spirit, Christine. Brava!
What’s up with Roger? I know he’s not young anymore (I’m not either), but that’s no reason not to be virile: there are lots of ways to keep it up, so to speak.
So, let’s keep up exposing the MEGA lies of Obama and his thugs.
(Sorry if anyone’s offended by the metaphors!)
Obama is a pathological narcissist – but, contrary to others, I don’t consider that he has any ideology. He is intellectually and emotionally empty. The ideologues are the radical socialists and moneychangers, who run him (Soros, Pelosi, Reid etc). Obama is a psychological socialist, not an ideological one. That is, he’s in the socialist camp because it is the only political ideology that sets him up as a Ruler and defines the population as ‘ignorant Ruled’. He needs, as a clinical narcissist, to feel that sense of total control.
Obama considers that anyone who doesn’t accept His Word – even if that Word is fed to him by the BackRoom Gang – simply doesn’t exist. So, he’s not interested in those who disagree with him; he’s only interested in controlling you – by any means whatsoever. Lies? He’s a pathological liar – he’ll misinform, emotionally manipulate – do whatever it takes, to control you.
He has no interest in the well-being of America and Americans; his only focus is on controlling both – and a statist structure is the best tactic for that – because it denies the individual of any power. Notice how he rejects that individuals have any power – he ignores Congress, which expresses the Will of the People. His health care isn’t about health care but about statist control of everyone – where you must purchase health insurance or be jailed.
Tuscon? He behaved disgracefully – allowing the cheers to continue. All he had to do as a leader was to say: Stop. This is a memorial; it is not about me’. But as a narcissist, he can’t do that! The 8 point bump is a blip.
What’s next? Obama will certainly play to the right. He has no choice for the GOP control the House and the money. But this of course assists him for the public will perceive that Obama himself is moving to the centre – but – it will enrage his leftist base. So, he’s going to have to, from time to time, appease them.
However, I think that Obama will distance himself more and more from Congress. He’ll blame all problems on Congress and set himself up as a Victim of Congress. After all, his 2008 campaign also used the Victim theme: racism.
His foreign ‘policy’ is disastrous; the left has no understanding of a global reality, trapped as they are in the old memes of imperialism, colonialism and other such nonsense. So Obama is enabling our enemies to gather strength. This could very well be his downfall, if the foreign situation worsens.
Palin? I like her but do not consider that she should be the GOP nominee. She should be the Voice of the People – without any political filiation – moderate Democrats, GOP, Independents, Tea Party. She should not be confined to a single party.
The nominee should NOT be part of the old guard; that means no to Romney, Huckabee, Guiliani, Gingrich and whoever. No, No. It must be someone from the new voices – and, not announced until mid or late 2011. Not now.
I’m about 90% with you on little lenin’s ideology. It’s just that I believe that HE believes what has been spooned into his head for decades…marxism. That is his go-to position, but as you say, he isn’t locked into it; he is locked into whatever it takes to stay in control.
So far, you are spot-on about his “move” to the center. Congratulations. Few called it, but then, few have developed a thesis about his entire behavior, as you have.
So far, it has been pretty easy for him after the November slap-down. Keeping the tax rates was a foregone conclusion. The Tucson drama was scripted and he played his part as planned. As we knew, the liberals’ media is licking his face slavishly.
The Debt Ceiling and Budget Cuts will be more interesting and seem more probematical. What does your thesis say about those scripts
I agree; Obama believes that he’s a socialist. But since he’s intellectually shallow and ignorant, he doesn’t realize that he’s a socialist because it enables him to control others – not because he gives a hoot about the wellbeing of people.
As for what’s next – and with the debt ceiling and budget cuts, I think that Obama is in a neat position. He has isolated himself from Congress. Actually, he has always done this because he is indifferent to the Will of the People. So, for example, he can exhort Congress to pass the stimulus and health bills, not via the actions of their debate – but without reading the bills..and based only on Trust in Obama.
But now, he has further isolated himself from Congress. So, he can publicly reject budget cuts because he wants to ‘maintain services to the people’ (violins in background)..but, he knows that the GOP House (evil men that they are) will deny him His Wish. So, Obama will be The Victim of the GOP who are Against The Wellbeing of People. He’ll play this for everything he’s got.
He’s going to have a problem with Health Care. I think he’ll try the same tactic of ‘I am a victim of the Evil heartless GOP’ but the GOP will, I understand, provide a clear outline of a better health care plan…and Obama has to deal with the fact that at least have the states have filed a suit against the federal plan; and, that so many industries have gotten out of the plan. So- this is his Achilles heel.
But don’t underestimate his ability to Be A Victim. Oh – and notice that Obama requires, always, a dominant woman in his environment. The same type of woman: dominant, anti-American, anti-white…all the same: his mother, grandmother, wife. Interesting.
The GOP has to focus on Common Sense, and simple, clear plans of what they will do for health care, the economy, and…have a presidential nominee who is part of the new Set. Not the old Set. So that Obama will be seen as part of the Old Set.
Another good perspective. He will have to acquiesce to the draconian budget cuts because of the heartless republicans, even though he has made a superhuman effort to stave off the wolves for the American people. If that helps the stock market and improves unemployment, it will be small solace for his sacrifice.
On Obamacare, his alternate reality will be painted in bright colors. Victims of heartless corporations will rain on the country for the next two years. He won’t budge on that…unless he is polling in the 30′s the summer of 2012.
From the posts above, you can count me in on the Ryan/Rubio ticket. We need fresh, energetic faces and ideas. I love Palin for her tenacity and patriotism and Huckabee is a great guy but we need to play for the “team” not for individuals. This is a time we should all pull together to oust the Kenyan.
Ryan’s response to the SOTU will be critical. You may recall that a poorly scripted response hurt Jindal badly.
I see some similarities between Jindal and Ryan. They both come across as nerds, which is a tough sell to America (this also hurts Pawlenty to a lesser extent). Somehow, if Ryan is interested in the Presidency, he needs to learn how to appear more physical. In a perfect world Rubio / Ryan is the more natural ticket, but at the moment, that doesn’t appear likely.
If Israel attacks Iran prior to the 2012 election, and things rapidly spiral into a regional war, perhaps even a nuclear one, all bets are off.
Other foreign policy crises could do this as well – China attacking or at least intimidating Taiwan, the Norks attacking South Korea, or another megaterrorist attack on our soil.
Roger,
Your article also failed to mention an obvious factor in the 2012 election that PJM is well aware of – voter fraud and vote rigging – done entirely by Democrats.
It is safe to say that the Dems will get at least 2-3 million illegal votes from unregistered voters, illegal aliens and double voters. If they need 5 million votes to win, they will produce it. Not only will the Marxist Legacy Media not report this election stealing (compared to which Hugo Chavez’s tactics are child’s play), but they will scream “racism” and “hate mongering” at the GOP for playing it up.
Obama is dead meat. Why? Because he’s going to give a State of the Union address next week in which he will ask for a spending hike! There are threats of a government shutdown over the debt ceiling and Obaka is for even more spending!
2012 a shoe in for Obama? I think the catastrophic changes we’ll see this and next year might alter that course. No new jobs , high gas prices , expensive inefficient health care, Muslim and Zionist superiority in laws and policies, to name a few. How about full Sharia Law wherein all Christians will be required to convert or face beheading. I think it is going to get serious fast and ugly. There are no true Republicans running or planning to run except maybe Ron Paul, who is smart and strict to constitutional values and concepts, but lacks that initial charisma voters can’t see past. My prayer is some freak of providence produces another Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry or George Washington but with tons of Holywood-like Charisma and golden oratorship and the the perfect inverse of verbal deception that Obama brought to his campaign where the result is a full return to the ways of the anti-federalists of yesteryear on the heels of a promised free ride…Touche”
Barracky boy could get a second term if he’s not confronted by someone with the courage to debate him on the issues important to the Office and the Nation.
Sarah Palin could debate him on these issues with knowledge and conviction, and would not be cowered by his status.
Unless there is a Palin, a Ryan, Limbaugh, or Rove type character to call him on his incompetence, he stands to get the same votes and voters he did last time.
But, his incompetence is astounding. He just made a statement last week that he would have all Federal Regulations reviewed for effectiveness and functionality; This process has been law for about 30 years, and was enacted by his own party.
His appointment of his czars to administer his agenda is not serving him too well. Some one should have told him about this legislation. But, with an EEO appointment to any office, you can’t expect much.
Our Founding Fathers must be puking in their graves seeing the highest office in the land being reduced to an office for individuals that need to be accommodated for their incapability to achieve on their own innate character.
The law, tradition, common sense, logic; it’s all meaningless to this guy. I don’t think he even cares much about policy. He knows that the more power he acquires, the less policy matters.
For him, it is 100% theatre, 100% of the time. And his followers know less about what is and isn’t legal or wise than he does. They don’t care either.
It started in New Hampshire today:
The new Bob Dole/John McCain “center-right” moderate conservative loser showed up, POLITICO approved.
Check out Intrade, post NH straw poll:
http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/contractSearch/
Mittens up by 3.3 to 24.4 in contract price and rising. I’ll be taking a nap in ’12.
Mittens can’t buy the nomination. He’s DOA in Iowa. Only because he has money will he even stay in the race, but he’ll get his clock cleaned.
White race guilt? I got over that a looooong time ago. I think most Americans with a brain have. We are Americans – all of us that are born here or LEGALLY naturalized. Even libtards. That communist idiot will be re-elected IF we don’t keep up the pressure & show others that he hasn’t and will never change his marxist beliefs that our America must be “changed” to make it “better”.
cfbleachers – regarding 2012 ‘R’ candidates.. it is slim pickins.
I’ve been saying for some time a DeMint/Watts ticket would be great.
2 staunch Conservatives, whereas the latter is also a successful college and ‘pro’ (Canadian Football League) athlete, businessman, former pastor, author etc.,
Though DeMint is very comfortable in his current role, as Watts appears to be also. Bummer..
Though the ‘backup’ play is the Republicans winning the Senate majority in ’12 if not the Presidency.. in essence holding Obama ‘in check’ with his nonsensical and/or usurping decisions for the EPA/mother Gaia crowd, public unions and the other useful idiots who are still enamored with an ‘almost’ Black guy at 1600 Pennsylvania.
Another BIG hurdle is keeping the Scott Brown’s, Snowe’s and other RINO’s, Blue Dogs from caving moreso into important legislative topics (illegal aliens, giving the finger to the EPA,FCC for overstepping their bounds, repealing and rewriting ObamaScare, reducing the budget with REAL effort, letting the FREE MARKET work as such again, etc.,) to appease their moronic constituents and Obama’s new world order fantasies..
Did anyone mention the O dropping Joe Biden in 2012? This is a distinct possibility. When they are seen together my spidey sense tells me the O really doesn’t like Biden and considers him an embarassment (not up to HIS standards).
Sorry; Obama can’t be embarrassed. Joe’s been flitting around the globe making crass jokes, and not attended to his bootlicking duties with his boss.
Biden hasn’t been playing the dumb white guy like he did before the election.
Obama’s centrist scam will fool only the foolish.
Mr Simon, agree with your perspective, however, the way to defeat Obama is to use “The Muslim Card.”
So, wait, if you want the government to adopt less liberal policies, and Obama is ’tilting right’ by advocating less liberal policies, why is that so awful? I think it’s premature to predict 2012, but it’s weird to criticize a president for tilting more towards your personal preferences.
You actually take Obama at his word? More fool you.
Simon’s assessment is exactly what I fear: that Obama will shuffle to the center and occasionally to the edge of center-right and therefore blur sufficiently the distinction between his present actions and a limp conservative outlook. The blurring will mollify independents who’ve been voting rightward and exorcise their fear of re-electing Obama. I’m not sure what the best way is to respond. I think conservatives need to voice their wholistic message: economic, social, and international-relations conservatism that fuels national flourishing. Without a vision of how the disciplines of conservatism serve the common good, conservatism sounds too harsh to persuade many non-conservatives.
Obama is a one termer. During his watch, China, North Korea, Pakistan and Iran have grown stronger militarily and more dangerous to their neighbors.
During his watch, we’ve had back-to-back terrorist attacks and attempts right in our own backyard – starting with Major Hasan’s Ft Hood massacre, the Christmas Day bomber, the Times Square bomber.
During his watch, the unemployment rate has stayed steady at over 9%.
During his watch, he recklessly grew the national debt and signed massive, unsustainable spending bills that our grandchildren will be paying for for decades.
During his watch, he apologized for America while abroad.
During his watch, he pushed class warfare and worsened black-white-Hispanic relationship by promising the world to the poor and minority, and punishing the rich or making the rich feel guilty for being successful.
During his watch, America is seen as weak.
Romney-Thune or Romney-Jindal or, best-yet, Thune-Jindal will easily beat Hussein-Biden in 2012.