Massachusetts shocker: Brown Up 15% in PJ Media/CrossTarget Poll
A new poll taken Thursday evening for PJ Media by CrossTarget – an Alexandria VA survey research firm – shows Scott Brown, a Republican, leading Martha Coakley, a Democrat, by 15.4% in Tuesday’s special election for the open Massachusetts US Senate seat. The poll of 946 likely voters was conducted by telephone using interactive voice technology (IVR) and has a margin of error of +/- 3.19%.
This is the first poll to show Brown surging to such an extent. A poll from the Suffolk University Political Research Center – published Thursday morning by the Boston Herald, but taken earlier – had Brown moving ahead by 4%.
The special election is to fill the seat held by the recently deceased Edward Kennedy. Kennedy, a Democrat, served in the US Senate for 46 years. A Brown victory could stall legislation supported by the Obama administration, including health care.
What follows are the questions asked in the poll with the responses:
1. Thinking about next Tuesday’s special election for US Senate. The candidates are Republican Scott Brown and Democrat Martha Coakley. If the election were today, who would you vote for? If Scott Brown press 1, if Martha Coakley press 2. If you are undecided press 3.
1. Scott Brown 53.9%
2. Martha Coakley 38.5%
3. Undecided 7.6%
2. And do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of Scott Brown? If favorable press 1. If unfavorable press 2. If you are undecided press 3.
1. Favorable 60.5%
2. Unfavorable 27.5%
3. Unsure 12.1%
3. And what about Martha Coakley. Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of Martha Coakley? If favorable press 1. If unfavorable press 2. If your undecided press 3.
1. Favorable 38.5%
2. Unfavorable 50.5%
3. Undecided 11%
4. Thank you. Only a small percentage of all voters will cast a ballot in this Tuesdays special election for US Senate. How likely is it that you will actually vote in this election on January 19th? If you will definitely vote press 1. If you might or might not vote press 2. If you probably wont vote press 3.
1. Definitely will vote 71.9%
2. Might or might not vote 21.4%
3. Probably won’t vote 6.8%
5. Now, let me ask are you a male or female? If you are male press 1, if you are female press 2.
1. Male 43.3%
2. Female 56.7%
6. Thank you. Now for the last question. Do you consider yourself a Republican, a Democrat or something else. If a Republican press 1. If a Democrat press 2. If something else press 3.
1. Republican 20.3%
2. Democrat 36.6%
3. Something else 43.1%
Holy crap.
When was the poll taken, and how was the sample selected?
Poll of likely voters. Similar to Rasmussen technique. Poll just taken.
Update: Polling began at 6PM Eastern in Massachusetts.
A new poll taken Thursday evening for Pajamas Media by CrossTarget – an Alexandria VA survey research firm
They did remember to conduct the poll in Massachusetts, and not in Virginia, I trust?
I’m going to throw out a counterintuitive thought just for fun – maybe Obama *wants* Brown to win. The health care bill has become an unpopular albatross, so it would be just as well for him if it somehow fell through at the last moment. At the same time, he could then turn around and run against “obstructionist” Republicans in Congress. BO certainly is better at campaigning than he is at actually executing any of the jobs he is elected to.
I never say this – not even in non-polite company-, but… OMG. Oh $#!%! In Taxachusetts?!?!?
This goes way beyond the possible into the probable. A Republican Senator from MA?!?!? A Republican?!?!? After 50+ years of Kennedy hegemony?!?!?!?
Democrats better know their CPR by next week…
Hey ACORN, you need to dig up a whole lot more zombies than usual. And can you hire the guy with the club? Does he have any friends?
/s
Coakley must demand a centerfold from Cosmos.
6. Gary Rosen: “I’m going to throw out a counterintuitive thought just for fun – maybe Obama *wants* Brown to win.”
Some other blogger, (I can’t recall), tossed that speculation out several days ago and got promptly hooted down. Frankly I don’t think the notion is all *that* crazy. A bit far-fetched perhaps, but not inconceivable.
If the Dums simply walk away, they look like quitters. If they continue to try, -and fail, they look like losers. Brown’s election solves it all. With Brown being the 41st vote, the Dums can simply shrug their shoulders and say, “Well we tried our best but those demon-rethuglicans killed it.” Then they saunter off into the sunset, (chuckling all the way…)
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Coakley must demand a centerfold from Cosmos.
If she does than Scott Brown gets a lock on the women vote.
There is a limit to stupid lies afterall. The democratic message is now toxic.
All the republicans need do is sit quietly making gentle conservative sounds and they will win going away.
The democrats will win the elections for the republicans.
Y’all are missing the most salient point to this survey. To wit: How in the heck did they get so many danged Indies on this survey, and so few Dems? Either lightning struck (metaphorically), or there was some chicanery with the polling, or… suddenly, there are far fewer Dems in MA! They haven’t become Pubs, but they are abandoning the Dems in MASSIVE numbers!
Political Earthquake!
Absurd!
SEIU
ACORN
Game over.
“…and how was the sample selected?”
I want to believe the results of the poll—but I wonder if the proper mix of Democrats, Independents, and Republicans were contacted? My guess is that Scott Brown will win by perhaps a 5% margin. 15% sound just too good to be true.
“I’m going to throw out a counterintuitive thought just for fun – maybe Obama *wants* Brown to win”
Barack Obama is too narcissistic to think this way. I recently said, though, that Nancy Pelosi and a number of purple and red state legislators might prefer the issue to simply go away. She does not want to lose her role as speaker of the House. There is only so much that Pelosi is willing to sacrifice for Obama’s place in the history books. At the end of the day, she worries about herself.
“The poll of 946 likely voters was conducted by telephone using interactive voice technology (IVR) and has a margin of error of +/- 3.19%.”
My concern, and I’d vote for Brown if I was in MA, I’m not, is that the only people who are likely to sit through a robot poll are really committed people, skewing the result. Myself, I always hang up on robots. Every time.
Don’t underestimate the Democrats’ penchant for political mischief. I bet right now, there are squads of goons from ACORN and SEIU packing their bags, boarding buses and heading to Massachusetts. They are not going down without an ugly fight. They’ve thrown everything at Brown and he’s still standing. Very impressive.
Dewey took polls too. Fatal flaw, used the phone book to poll. Not everyone had phones then.
This is great news. I won’t get super excited about it until Tuesday night after the polls close. After what happened in Minnesota, and watching what happens here in Illinois I know of ACORNs and SEIUs power to steal elections.
If you are in Mass and want to vote for Brown, you can’t wish for this to happen. You have to go to the polls and take people to the polls that think like you. If your friends want to vote for any other candidate, tell them there is not any room in your car and leave them at home.
This is interesting. With all the union heading up for the election; It would be advise that everyone bring their cameras be it cell phone or personal video camera.
Let your cameras be seen near the polling areas, criminals don’t care much for cameras.
Whoa. Wait a minute. There is a third candidate. Regardless of how you feel about Joe “the forgotten” Kennedy, he will garner some percentage of the vote. That percentage will have to come from one or the other of the two candidate’s pile of chips.
As far as I am concerned, leaving out Kennedy puts this poll into question.
I am a Brown supporter. I think Brown will win. But I think when people put polls together they should think carefully about how they construct their questions. No doubt people participating in this poll were asking themselves “What, no Kennedy?”
Haha, Jeff, that’s priceless.
Personally, I don’t put much stock in polling as they tend not to be representative of the population at large, but we can all hope that this poll is reflected at the polling booths.
I am guardedly optomistic about the upcoming election. Polls are showing a majority of Mass residents against the two congressional health care proposals. 17% of Democrats are supporting Brown. His independent support is massive.
Coakley is a tone deaf candidate. Yesterday she insulted Red Sox fans by indirect comment. That’s like insulting Packer fans in Wisconsin. She doesn’t have a clue about national security and is little more than an Obamabot regarding the socialist agenda. She is a redistributionist of the first order. She believes she is entitled to the coronation and doesn’t really understand how to work for votes.
Still, this is the Commonwealth of Mass. This is the bastion of Barney Frank. The voters tend towards Fabian Socialist beliefs, that society needs endless reform.
I’ll believe it when I see it.
Must be BUSHE’S fault!
It would be ironic if Ted Kennedy’s bastion went for the Republican candidate. You can’t make up stuff that good.
“Well we tried our best but those demon-rethuglicans killed it.” Then they saunter off into the sunset, (chuckling all the way…)
Sorry, no sale. They tried to reform healthcare without tort reform! Only the feeble minded will buy this as a common sense, good faith effort.
Not only can Obama not stop the rising of the oceans, he can’t keep the temperatures going up so he can impose Cap and Trade.
On a more prosaic level he doesn’t understand that jobs are created by small business, not government stimulus packages that don’t stimulate but simply increase the deficit and distribute hard earned tax dollars to the government’s friends.
Obama can’t even win a Senate seat in Massachusetts. But he wants to lose! Sheesh. Wake up. The Obama dam has burst.
Wow, Brown is gorgeous. And, he’s conservative, too. I wouldn’t mind seeing him in the White House someday.
Two thoughts.
First, the method of polling does lay the poll open to some uncertainty, as a previous commenter said. The 1936 Literary Digest poll is the great precedent; it predicted a landslide victory for Republican Alf Landon over Democrat Franklin D. Roosevelt. Unfortunately, to be contacted by Literary Digest, a voter had to be one of its subscribers and possess a telephone. Not a good sample for the depths of the Great Depression.
Second, the size of a Brown margin is critical. 15% probably couldn’t be cheated or lawyered away. But you can bet your last dollar that the Democrats will attack any margin below 5% on all fronts and with every weapon in their arsenal. Such a result might not see Brown — or anyone — seated for all of 2010.
Remember Flordia 2000!
It’s never to early to gloat. WATERLOO BABY!!!! WATERLOO!!!!
How accurate have these “robotic” polls been in the past?
for 15 Marc Malone:
“Y’all are missing the most salient point to this survey. To wit: How in the heck did they get so many danged Indies on this survey, and so few Dems?”
It’s not generally known outside the state, but 52% of Mass voters are unenrolled (Independent), vs. 12% Republican and 36% Democrat.
I’m more suspicious of the 71.9% “definitely plan to vote” number. Every poll has shown that Scott leads among those who are certain to vote, but no one expects to see over 70% turnout in a special election. I suspect they over-sampled this group, resulting in a bigger lead.
That said, the political climate here is amazing – saw people holding Scott Brown signs on my way to work this morning, in the heart of Barney Frank’s district.
“But you can bet your last dollar that the Democrats will attack any margin below 5% on all fronts and with every weapon in their arsenal.”
Things are not quite that bad. The Democrats can only fool around if the vote totals show that Scott Brown won with a .025 percent or less margin. The game is up with anything more than that. Vote fraud gets to be very dicey when the difference get anywhere near .05 percent.
Scott Brown will probably win this race. The momentum seems to be shifting in his direction. It may very well be Brown’s to lose!
Anecdotal and for what it’s worth:
Born and bred in Mass and most family is still in state. My brother is an independent I believe (never asked actually – what in Mass is called ‘unenrolled’ – but as far as I know has always voted the Dem slate. Always been a diehard Kennedy fan – if Teddy could run from the grave he’d vote for him. I gave him a call this am just to tweak him about the way the race is going. When we last spoke over the holidays he was a Coakley man. Now he’s voting Brown (so he says anyway). His answer when asked why, was that he changed his mind in just the last few days and it was completely based on some sort of insanely negative Coakley ad blitz going on in the state. He says that every Boston network is showing at least one if not several incredibly negative ads about Brown every single commercial break at at 2 or 3 times the rate for Brown ads. Nothing about Coakley per se, just putting down Brown. Then you get a calm Brown ads pointing out the nature of the Coakley ads, and then discussing Brown positions. According to my brother Brown had made his positions clear enough over the last 2 months(and this new admission is very important compared to his mild complaints over the holidays about Coakley being vaguer than his first Dem choice – Capuano? (sic)).
Here’s the kicker. According to my brothers current thinking, anyone paying attention knew where Brown was coming from and that the Coakley negative ad blitz is so blatantly deceptive and insulting that he wouldn’t vote for her for any office at this point.
So for what it’s worth, Coakley’s recovery plan appears not just to be too little and too late, but opting for the low/no substance highly negative vote for me cause I’m not Scott Brown shtick is backfiring with my brother at least.
I’m sorry but this poll is not credible. It might be more accurate if the sample had included more Democrats and fewer Republicans, but even then it would be out of whack.
But be that as it may I am pretty confident that Brown will indeed win on Tuesday and equally confident that the Republicans and ‘conservatives’ will completely misconstrue the ‘meaning’ of the vote.
This will NOT be a vote for ‘conservatism’ except for the fiscal conservative part of the movement. And it is dependent upon Brown being the candidate he is and Coakley being the candidate she is.
I want to point out to the ‘conservatives’ here that in an ‘objective analysis’, Brown would probably be a RINO in their view. But now he is a HERO for possibly flipping the ‘Kennedy Seat’. Which is it — a despised traitor to your pet hobby horses or an indispensable part of any viable electoral strategy.
He can’t be both.
A Republican Party full of Scott Browns would absolutely be the favorite in 2010/2012 but unfortunately for the Republicans, they don’t have many Browns left. So they can’t usually win in places like Massachusetts.
I want to hear one of the ‘pure’ say that it really does not matter between a Brown win and a Coakley win. Isn’t that what they have been saying for a year now ? No RINOS !!!
Thank The Gods for the Tea Party Movement and its laser-like emphasis on ‘money matters’, and corruption. Maybe just maybe, the Republicans can be completely subsumed by the Partiers, and those often abusive and abrasive so-con ‘distractions’ will finally be moved to the margins.
One can but hope.
A Republican is only a RINO if he/she runs to the left of where they need to be to win in a particular district or state–Lindsay Graham is a RINO because a senator from South Carolina could be significantly more conservative than he is; Scott Brown isn’t because a senator from Massachusetts couldn’t.
Well, even if the margin is only 8%, I am thrilled! I do not live in MA but you betcha I have contributed to Brown’s campaign and I’ll be tuned in for the election results Tuesday night. Go Scott, go! All the way to the Senate! And when you get there, please remember to vote against all the tax raising, job killing bills. Because I care about my fellow Americans.
Even more than ever, “it’s the economy”. (the last part of the famous phrase I’ll reserve for the man with the tan who looks from side to side when he tells lie after lie–but he is COOL, I’ll give him that)
No matter how many votes Brown gets on the 19th, I can’t believe that most of you think the dem crooks in MA would allow him to actually win.
There are union members all over the state stuffing ballot boxes in anticipation of election day.
Just think of how many armed Black Panthers AG Holder is moving to Boston to protect Teddy’s seat.
Well that is good news for the Republican party in Massachussetts. The Republican party has been a dying breed there for years so any boost for the Republicans there would be great. The bad news for the cons and the neo cons is that Brown supports health care reform and is “on board” with most of the national trend as far as many issues go. A decent left of center perspective is vital for the party to grow. However, I personnally think that is a good thing. Republicans need people like him, Snowe, Collins, the midwest populist(s) and the center left wing on the west coast if they want any chance to win back the executive in 2012. Good Luck to Them !!
Francis at 24,
Good points. I think we can expect a certain amount of chicanery if Brown wins, and that is a big if.
I am losing confidence in the integrity of our elections. ACORN and the SEIU have too much to lose not to resort to cheating and fraud. Motor Voter is also an instrument for election stealing.
As I said before, I will believe it when I see Brown sworn in. Wouldn’t that be something?
Replying to #15 (Mark Malone), who asked, “how in the heck did they get so many danged Indies on this survey, and so few Dems?”
Explanation 1 — There are many in Massachusetts who are unambiguously to the left of Democrats and who really consider themselves independent.
Explanation 2 — Many who are in fact Democrat-leaning — statist and “pro-choice” and “anti-gun” all the way — but who fancy themselves independent thinkers, really do think of themselves as “independent”. Remember, Massachusetts (Boston area) is the home of many of those fancy universities, populated by that herd of “independent” minds.
M J R
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Expect fraud if the election is close. I lived in that state(commonwealth) and know how they operate . Brown has to win comfortably to be assured of victory.
I firmly believe in the beauty theory of politics. If every thing else is equal—the candidate deemed more gorgeous will win the contest. Scott Brown rates a ten in the looks department. Martha Coakley probably scores no more than an eight. She isn’t really “cool.” There are also rumors circulating claiming that Coakley’s own internal polls show her behind by roughly five percentage points. If this accurate, then the race is now Brown’s to lose. She can’t make up that big of a difference only a few days before the election. Coakley has to hope Brown slugs an old nun or robs a convenience store at gunpoint.
“The bad news for the cons and the neo cons is that Brown supports health care reform and is “on board” with most of the national trend as far as many issues go.”
Nonsense. Even out of state I know that’s not true. The first part – Brown supports some sort of health care reform at the insurance level, but he most assuredly does not support anything resembling the car wreck takeover being proposed at the national level.
The second part is only true if you acknowledge that the national trend is moving more conservative. Based on your record, you are talking about a progressive statism national trend.
If Brown gets in, the Dem party better hope they can turn a Snowe or Collins. Unless he’s a complete fraud, Brown shows no indication now or in the past of buying into the progressive utopia of statism.
We have been hearing that the Dems outnumber Reps by about 3:1 in Massachusetts. This poll shows about 2:1.
However, look at the percentage of poll respondants who said that they were of neither party.
Either the poll’s sampling is way off or there has been a major shift in Massachusetts’ political thinking. Perhaps the past several months of Democrat rule have woken some people up–even in this bluest of states. Perhaps a large number of formerly rock-ribbed Dems have gone wobbly and are now in play. This would be very encouraging indeed.
Given the questions, there should be data for all respondants to this poll whether they were likely voters or not. It would be interesting to see how the results for all adults would compare to that of likely voters.
I hear that the democrats are bring in people from surrounding states to work for Coakley. I wish Brown all the luck in the world, but I fear election fraud will win out again.
Great post sir, linked at the Reaganite Republican-
http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/2010/01/ebullient-brown-surges-into-lead-in.html
Because this election is state wide I suppose there is a chance that normal dim corruption will not win the day. We have to know they will cheat and steal every way known to the demoncrat machine.
The decent americans across the land are getting excited about possibly unseating the Kenyan and his minions soon but I am very skeptical. The only segment of this society not in the pocket of this monster is the military and I’m sure he has many clintoon generals under his control.
All politics in this nation is controlled by the know nothing middle and now that this segment of society is scared witless by the depression they will vote for whoever the media tells them to vote for. We really are so screwed. I wish the military would take over for a bit and reinstitute constitutional government.
It is hard to believe in the old model any longer. The capitalists became pirates. The combustion engine achieved antiquity. There are few frontiers left on the planet. None really as they must be preserved. The hey days of planet earth are over. The adjustment to this fact may not be survivable for a lot of us.
As much as I like the results of the poll, question 4 should give us pause. Approx 71% say they are sure to vote. In this election, well below half of registered living voters will vote. Sorry, the sample is way out of wack.
The graveyards in Massachusetts will be humming with activity election night. Christ only told Lazarus to rise and walk. Democrats get the dead to rise and vote, and many times.
When the election is stolen, and it will be painfully obvious, liberals will shut down their extremely flexible ethics and rejoice, the media will barely cover it.
That’s life in modern America.
Gawd, I just came from the Boston Globe web site: the comments sections there are just chock-loaded with maliciously gleeful (and needless to mention, badly confused) right wing commentators. I have to say what while you right wingers may not know much about math, science, economics, history, current events, and such, you do know how to rapidly fill up a comments section, even ones belonging to allegedly liberal newspapers, with rubbish.
Brown is not a bad guy, including being more a traditional libertarian Republican than the carpet-chewing right winger that’s now in vogue, but he’s no intellectual and his comments, especially about health care, indicate that he’s going to be hopeless on complicated stuff. Coakley has had a solid history of being a tough but good hearted public servant. She’s no politician, though, and has not run a good campaign, including leaving herself open to the usual Republican tactics of making BFD’s of minor slip-ups, however trivial.
Spin it all you want, but if Brown wins, the dumb & bad guys win overall.
One reason for the high number of independants
in the poll is because if you register as an “independant” in MA you can vote in primaries in either party. So, people are “independants” in order to pick and choose between a given primary (unless you’re in ACORN, and therefore vote in both primaries at once).
Polls are showing a majority of Mass residents against the two congressional health care proposals.
I’ve read that medical device manufacturing is huge in Massachusetts.
And that residents there are looking very unfavorably on proposed new taxes on those devices in the “healthcare” bill.
In keeping with the idea that she is the Ted Kennedy extension,, Coakley has seemed to consider the mantle is hers, despite faring poorly in debates & her ridiculous claims about the Afghan war.
She met with big whig lobbyists in DC a couple of nights ago, but you won’t find her standing in the cold at Fenway shaking voters’ hands.
Why wasn’t Kennedy the Libertarian listed as one of the candidates in question #1? Does that skew your poll results?
Just curious if anyone thinks Kennedy is a factor. An insider I know tells me Dems intend to pump in BIG money this weekend, into ads which will emphasize that Kennedy is the “real” conservative, not Brown. If Kennedy draws 5% away from Brown, Coakley could squeak through.
A Coakley/Soros poll has her up by 16 points! Good for liberals. Bad for nude models.
This guy Brown has got to be stopped !!! Ted Kennedy will be turning over in his grave, seismologist warn that could cause an earthquake in Boston.
Without cross-tabs I can’t evaluate this as a good poll. The Party ID did oversample the ratio between Republicans and Democrats. So the lead isn’t that great. Because of the Special election dynamic, I can see, this race turning out to be Brown winning by 5 to 10, but not more than that.
Rasmussen still has them in a dead heat with Coakley ahead by a point…definitely need to mobilize and make sure that Brown voters make it to the polls.
First off, I live in MA (35+ years)and am a registered independent. I have donated to Scott Brown for this election.
That said, the one question I have about this poll is how was the “likely voters” characteristic determined?
To those worried about the party identification…it is considered polite to claim independent status the folk who tend to publicly identify as D are the old line union or machine types all the Brie eaters like to put on a face of elite separatism.
Dougf has, I think, a wrong impression of “conservatives” due to the unrelenting harshness of the media protrayal of the breed. RINOs are the ones that believe in bigger more expansive government while claimiing not to be. The conservatives are mainly concerned with those kinds of issues on a political level. There are not that many that rail on about politicizing the social conservative positions. It seems that way because they are the ones that the media dwell on.
When I got a chance to hear Scott Brown he seems like a small government fiscally prudent type who believes that many of these social issues are best left to the state governments or better yet to the people.
39. Commuter:
Anecdotal and for what it’s worth: Born and bred in Mass and most family is still in state.
“bred” were you? Now I know where you conservatives come from – some secret baby factory churning out fascists. I believe the word you’re looking for is “reared” but that would be too gay, too close to tea baggers. As for the negative ads, I hear one shows a black chick holing up her fingers like a phone saying, “Hey, Scott, call me.” Stunning.
To quote: “Don’t get cocky, kid!”
Part of it is that this is a two year trial for Scott Brown, but Mass being Mass, Coakley is looking at Senator for Life. Mocks Fenway Park and the NHL “Winter Classic”, maybe she could go for broke and mock the Celtics and Patriots in a single sentence next time.
Nobody wants her around for the rest of her natural life.
#59 BC – You just neatly illustrated the common lefty characteristic which is helping to drive the opposition, not just in MA, but nationwide: Condescending arrogance.
I’m not getting my hopes up. Remember that this is a state that has elected ridiculous clowns like John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, and Barney Frank for years. But if Mass. voters can start to open their eyes and step back from the edge, it would be a great sign.
The liberal Democrats are loosing their grip on the media for the first time since the nineteenth century. With the Internet in play the country may not see another Obama/machine election ever. We the people came together behind Scott Brown and next Tuesday that may prove to be enough.
This is not going to be close. Coakley will win because the unions will drag everybody out, everybody, even if they have to open graves to do it. No way is Obama going to get “Tea Bagged” on Tuesday!
There are way too many concern trolls and Eeyores on this site. This is a great candidate and all of you purists who think he’s not conservative enough need to get over yourselves. We need to stop this health care bill any way we can and this is one concrete way to do so. Check out hillbuzz.org and see what moderate Democrats are doing to assist getting Brown (or as they call him, Hottie McAwesome) elected Senator.
>>maybe Obama *wants* Brown to win
Maybe far-fetched, but at this point he might just not care.
We all may soon witness a miracle , God Bless America, and Mass. Pay attention Washington power and money hungry elected officials, The angry gian is waking up much faster than I thought. You really should have been paying attention to the people rather than ignoring them. “We The People” are America, not those in D.C. who ignore us. Pay attention, you will soon see the light.
This poll may not be a snapshot of the actual electorate but I am voting for Brown and everyone I know is as well. That includes many who voted for Obama and our esteemed Governor Deval Patrick. The people calling in to talk radio are saying they are atoning for casting a vote for Obama. Me, I’m just voting for Real Change in the reperesentation of my home state. I would like to see John Kerry voted out next.
69. skeeziks:
““bred” were you? Now I know where you conservatives come from – some secret baby factory churning out fascists. I believe the word you’re looking for is “reared” but that would be too gay, too close to tea baggers. As for the negative ads, I hear one shows a black chick holing up her fingers like a phone saying, “Hey, Scott, call me.” Stunning.”
That all you got? Sounds like the Coakley campaign’s attitude. Here’s a cluebat, tool. That shtick doesn’t play any longer. It’s turning off the voters in even the bluest of blue states like Mass. The type of tool projecting their fascination with teabagging from Schumer to lightweight tools like yourself isn’t convincing anyone of anything anymore other than that your mind is a cesspool.
Oh, BTW, tool. I did not mean ‘born and reared’. ‘Born and bred’ is what I said and what I meant. It’s a widely used and accepted idiom and far more commonly used than born and reared. Though it’s an illuminating if unsolicited and unwelcome bit of insight into how you see the world that the salacious meaning of ‘reared’ it was the first thing you ran with.
“As far as I am concerned, leaving out Kennedy puts this poll into question.”
Dunno. I suspect, if anything, Kennedy will pull more Democrat voters away from Coakley than from Brown. They won’t like Coakley, but can’t quite bring themselves to vote for Brown, so they’ll go with the libertarian, Kennedy. They’ll be able to rationalize their vote since, among other things, Kennedy is reportedly opposed to the troop surge in Afghanistan.
As many have no doubt noted already, the supreme irony of this contest is if a guy named “Kennedy” effectively throws the “Kennedy seat” to the GOP.
59. BC: Heh. I know. All Republicans are dumb and ignorant.
I mean, it’s just so clear that, in any battle of intellect, Pelosi would just cream Newt.
“bred” were you? Now I know where you conservatives come from – some secret baby factory churning out fascists. I believe the word you’re looking for is “reared” but that would be too gay, too close to tea baggers. As for the negative ads, I hear one shows a black chick holing up her fingers like a phone saying, “Hey, Scott, call me.” Stunning.
You know, that may be the most desperate sounding comment I’ve ever heard.
The party of “no wasted crisis” will try to use this election “crisis” to ram through their health destruction bill before a 41st senator is seated to vote against the bill.
And no bribe — er, price — is too great if it helps get the bill rahmed through. Just put it on the taxpayers’ tab, and move on to the next boondoggle bill. Time is short.
re: #59. BC:
“Spin it all you want, but if Brown wins, the dumb & bad guys win overall.”
Given recent Coakley comments (such as saying that Catholics probably shouldn’t work in emergency rooms and that the laws “allow” us free exercise of religion), this would seem to be a debatable point, at best.
Coakley was doing much better in the polls when she was a relative unknown with a “D” after her name. The more people learn about her–particularly some of her egregious acts as a prosecuter, the more unappealing she becomes.
To say that Brown is a “bad guy” compared to her is to manifest stupidity and moral confusion.
The worse the Dems have come up with in criticizinig Brown is that he’s a Republican and, shockingly, owns rental property and a time-share! (Granted, the time-share ownership does suggest that he’s not all that bright).
59. BC…. Spin it all you want, but if Brown wins, the dumb & bad guys win overall.
Good to see you finally got a grip. They’re all (both parties) dumb and bad guys. At least Brown will vote against the NoCare Obamination.
The rest is just revisionist history.
#59 When you say “dumb and bad guys” of course you mean like Pelosi and Reid ?
The People Have Spoken. They have had enough. The vote is the most powerful tool we possess, especially since most of those in Washington, are no longer listening to our voices, even in large numbers. A unified people, coming together for the right causes, will prevail, just as truth and not a lie will always prevail.
Too good to be true…I simply do not believe it.
Michelle Malkin said that we’ve won already just because the Democrats have had to expend so many resources in an election for what should’ve been the mother of all safe seats for them. I’d love to believe this poll. but frankly I think the Suffolk poll is more accurate. And frankly to see Scott Brown win in Massachusetts by the same margin that Chris Christie won in New Jersey would be wonderful. If Brown wins by the margin predicted in this poll, then the GOP might, not just win but, win a huge majority in the Senate.
What they said about margins of fraud,
plus: If the margin is exceeded, it
_will_ be noticed, remembered, and
end up causing them more trouble
than it was worth; This is not
20th century politics as usual,
it is 21st century political reform,
driven by fear of economic collapse.
That poll is not believable. For instance Coakley and Brown both had positive approval in the high 50′s in rasmussen’s poll. Coakley is not under 40%.
This sounds like a junk poll, I would say the race can go either way depending on turnout. I lived in Ma for years and they would never favor a republican by 15%.
This poll could harm Brown and make his voters complacent, assume we are tied.
Despite the positive poll numbers, there is no way Scott Brown wins this election. This is the state controlled for decades by the Democrat/Kennedy machine. They know where all the skeletons are stashed (and probably helped stash most of them) and you can be sure that all markers are going to be called in. ACORN and SEIU are obvious examples, but think too of all the smaller communities whos politicians suckled at the D/K teat; the developers and contractors who profited from their relationships with the D/K machine; the well-documented Mob connections that 50 years ago brought JFK into the White House.
We like to think in America that this cannot happen, despite all evidence to the contrary. That is what ‘they’ count on.
“#59 When you say “dumb and bad guys” of course you mean like Pelosi and Reid ?”
No Bill, I though that too at first – they’re actually ‘dumb and dumber’. I’m pretty sure the bad guy is still Bush.
Polls are fun, but can be dangerous. I prefered it when Boston Globe predicted 15 points ahead Coakley and Rassmusson 46 Brown 48 Coakley. We would like Coakley voters to relax and stay home, while Brown supports make sure they get to the polls and bring a friend or two to vote. Polls can bread overconfidence. We have 5 days to keep working, phoning, blogging, tweeting, and texting. Let’s not crack the champaign yet gents and ladies. Let’s Roll and make sure we have enough votes to pass the trunkload of ballots that will likely appear, the busloads of voters that could be brought in, and observers w/cameras at every polling place.
I don’t see this monster going down w/out a dirty fight.
69. skeeziks:
Why are you deflecting? “born and bred” is just an old saying. Maybe too traditional for your sensibilities, but it is still acceptable to us old fascists. By the way what does “holing up” mean? Since we’re being so exact about grammar, and the English language and all. I love how easily the word fascist rolls off liberal fingertips on blogs the world over. Name calling is so infantile and easy, but I guess a retarded butt-baby like you doesn’t need to be told that huh? Nanny-nanny-boo-boo…
Massachussetts elected Mitt Romney as governor.
Whatever they might think in Haaaaavud Yaaawd, it’s not at all out of the question that the People think it’s time for a clean break from Teddy Kennedy and Barry Obama.
A Brown victory would not only be fitting but historical. How more appropriate than for MA to initiate and reverberate that “Shot heard ’round the world.”
The Massachusetts race proves once again that Obama is a wonderful president, even better than Carter. He promised to fundamentally change America – and he is achieving just that. This country is changing – from a center-right country to a solid right country. Excellent news. Finally, America is becoming more progressive.
And this is what I predicted back in November 2008. Thank you, Obama.
http://hyphenatedamericans.blogspot.com/2008/11/i-can-live-with-obama_02.html
Massachussetts has a 3 to 1 advantage for Democrats over Republicans. You included 36% Democrat to 20% Republican in your poll. That’s not even 2 to 1. So you Republican percentage is to high. That’s why Brown’s numbers look so good.
“I’m going to throw out a counterintuitive thought just for fun – maybe Obama *wants* Brown to win. The health care bill has become an unpopular albatros”
Gary Rosen,
Look like you are a moon bat from Mass. If you think Obami is that smart you are smoking something. BHO is an extreme ideologue and not very smart.
It’s fun to read the spin of resident trolls, B.C. and Poor Citizen. Even they see the reality of a Brown victory Tuesday.
A RISING TSUNAMI lifts all PATRIOTS! As the citizens of Massachusetts awaken from their multi generational enthrallment with SOFT STATIST TYRANNY they will go into the STREETS on VOTING DAY and with a vast LIGHTNING BOLT destroy many illusions including THE MACY DAY BALLOON HEADS OF TEDDY KENNEDY and BUBBA KLINTOON. DITTO FOR ZERO-KING! Coo-Coo Cokely reduced to being a tiny dwarf jumping up and down wielding a puny fist in a dimming spotlight.
To DGT: Thanks for proving my point: Google “Catholics probably shouldn’t work in emergency rooms” (use the quotes) and see what comes up and who the sources are — it’s the same old, same old malicious Republican BS tactics. The primary distribution source for that little bit of disinfo is sleazeball right winger (surprise, surprise) Jim Hoft of Fox Nation and Gateway Pundit. The “quote” however originated with a radio interview with small time conservative talk show host, Ken Pittman, (are there any other types these days?) who parsed out and featured bits and pieces from a lengthy interview with Coakley, which was then picked up by Hoft for the BFD treatment.
A common smear tactic by right wingers is to completely disregard context so they can make the claim than they are merely quoting. But this is called “contextomy” and is deliberate and usually malicious distortion. As is usual, putting the alleged quote into fuller context shows a different picture (hats off — again — to Media Matters on this, who — despite idiotic right wing bashing to the contrary — has far, FAR more integrity than any conservative news source, including the WSJ):
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PITTMAN: Right, if you are a Catholic, and you believe what the Pope teaches, you know, that any form of birth control is a sin. And you don’t want to do that, that –
COAKLEY: No, but we have a seperation of church and state here, Ken, let’s be clear.
PITTMAN: Yeah, but in the emergency room you still have your religious freedom.
COAKLEY: The law says that people are allowed to have that. And so, then, if you — you can have religious freedom, you probably shouldn’t work in the emergency room.
PITTMAN: Wow. OK, so if you have religious conviction, stay out of the emergency room.
COAKLEY: Well, no, I’m not — look, you’re — you’re the one who brought the question up. I don’t believe that the law allows for that, and I know that we accommodate all kinds of differences all the time. I think Roe vs. Wade has made it clear that women have a right to choose, and in Massachusetts, particularly if someone has been the victim of a rape, an assault, and she goes to an emergency room to get contraception, someone else should say, “Oh, no, I don’t believe in this, so I’m going to affect your constitutional rights?”
PITTMAN: I agree that you’ve gotta have some balance there.
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So, as I said, if Brown wins, the dumb & bad guys win overall. With that said, though, and if there was less at stake — health care reform especially — I would not terribly mind having someone like Brown win, but only for one reason: the Republican party has become this weird cesspool of anti-science, willfully ignorant, and utterly malicious right wingers, and having a more traditional Republican like Brown — with a bread & butter “philosophy” of fiscal conservatism, having a strong military and promoting good business — win in a state like Massachusetts might cause a shift overall in Republican politics from the fringe right to something less polarized and much more constructive. Even if only seen as an election tactic, that would still bring better balance to what I’ve always considered the “Demo-Republican” (or “Republocratic”) two-party system in this country. The parties need to get along to get anything done, and they should bring their strengths to the table. Democrats (primarily liberals) tend to be like architects who come up with the new ideas, while Republicans (primarily conservatives) are more like the contractors and investors who should try to make those ideas practical and cost effective.
But in this environment, with so much to get done, a Republican senator is not going to be helpful at this point.
Slight problem with this poll: Republicans are oversampled and Democrats undersampled in this poll, in relation to their share of the electorate. Did the pollster adjust for that? Though I think even if these are raw numbers, Brown would still be in the lead when you account for that.
re: below. Mass has over 50% registered Independent Voters. I’m one and voting for Brown
How in the heck did they get so many danged Indies on this survey, and so few Dems? Either lightning struck (metaphorically), or there was some chicanery with the polling, or… suddenly, there are far fewer Dems in MA! They haven’t become Pubs, but they are abandoning the Dems in MASSIVE numbers!
40. Brown is a man I’d never support in a primary, nor could I endorse him for a Republican majority, but to thwart the Democratic agenda, I can endorse him. To use a football analogy, he’s a guy I’d put in as cornerback, but never as wide receiver. Why? Because he can’t reliably catch (advance the conservative agenda), and a WR needs to catch, whereas catching is a bonus for a CB- knocking the ball down (blocking the fascist’s agenda) is good enough.
Before someone BFD’s me, I accidentally mixed up Jim Hoft’s connection to Fox Nation — he’s primarily just does the Gateway Pundit thingy, although basically it feels at times like the entire right wing mediasphere share the same offices somewhere deep in Poopkick, TX.
“When I got a chance to hear Scott Brown he seems like a small government fiscally prudent type who believes that many of these social issues are best left to the state governments or better yet to the people.”
Why yes he does. But he is also seemingly ‘more than understanding’ of ‘other’ views on these issues. In other words — they are not really even on the stove at the moment, never mind on the back-burner.
Libertarian/Conservative is the IDEAL CANDIDATE for 2010/2012. One can argue about the exact ‘specifics’ but a candidate who lives in this comfort zone (HONESTLY !!) is almost a lock for election in this environment.
Finances(not the economy) is the issue now and will be for many years to come. The candidate who can promise AND then deliver on the finance front will win.
That is why I don’t oppose some form of ‘penalty’ tax on the Banking Industry. It deserves it. It really really does. It may not be ‘conservative’ but it surely is ‘justified’. I think that the Automobile Bandits should be hit with exactly the same thing. But where the Bank Tax should and must be used as a contingency fund should the Banksters once again gamble our money away, the auto guys should just be required to pay back every last cent they got. No matter how long it takes. No PROFITS for YOU.
Simplistic I know but WINNING, and even better almost required at this stage of the economic ‘problem’.
I really hope Brown wins, but doesn’t it look like the poll oversampled Republicans?
http://buttle.wordpress.com/
With the potential for voter fraud in the MA election, I wonder if Jimmy Carter will show up to assure fairness. He travels all over the world for that purpose. This time, he could cut travel expenses by get ting on the bus with the SEIU or Acorn crowd.
83. For that matter, the more robotic Democrats may see a man named Kennedy on the ballot and vote for him automatically.
Brown is a reasonable man and quick on his feet. Here comes Obama and Clinton as well as Kerry riding to the rescue now for their Coakley candidate. They must be praying to Alla that they won’t experience the same result they had with Corzine in New Jersey and the Virginia disaster. Statists in Washington have launched the Acorn ladies and gents to get out the vote.
From DrewM at Ace of Spades HG:
“Let me ask a question. Are Democrats trying to throw this election? This woman and everyone around her is a moron. Even when people try and help her, they klll her.
As I said in a comment late last night in one of the threads…
If for one second I believed in conspiracy theories and that the Republicans had the smarts to pull one off, I’d swear Coakley is a plant.
It’s like a bunch of drunk and/or stoned poli-sci students sitting around their dorm at 3am and thought, “what kind of idiot would the Democrats have to run to lose Teddy Kennedy’s seat 3 months after his death?”
She’s the perfect freaking storm of stupidity.”
Acorn vote thieves in droves are arriving in Massachusetts every day to “save” the election for Obama. And the Democrats
who control most polling places are letting them in like sailors opening the hatches of a submarine to scuttle the ship. The point being,
Brown must not only beat the Cokelady, but he’s also gotta beat Obama Chicago style pizza politics. Will the crooks be successful
in pulling a Franken on Brown? It’ll be close. And it’s impacting my last nerve like the dentist’s drill in the hands of Laurence Olivier in the movie, Marathon Man.
In fact, I’m so incensed by these disgraceful shenanigans that I’m close to suggesting national legislation that vote thieves who do Acorns (or anyone else’s bidding) should be shot on sight, like horse thieves were in the old west. I’m not kidding.
To my way of thinking, honest voting is the bedrock of our society. If Obama wants to pervert this ideal of America and send Acorn and union vote-stealing thugs into Massachusetts, he deserves to be shunned by decent society. Folks, for the last 12 months, Obama has walked with muddy feet all over our constitution like a man who’s out to desecrate every word written on it. I hear tell that If a lie detector were attached to Obama when he took the oath of office, those lines would have been wiggling back and forth like a man on a fuzzy tree.
Truth be known, Obama’s accumulated enough Frequent Liar Miles to travel around the world, 1,000 times over. In breaking a mess of laws, he’s made a mess of this country. Coming close to bankrupting it.
In particular, I believe that trying those terrorists killers in New York City, treating them to a civilian rather than military trial, is the height of lunacy; the most egregious of all of Obama’s “mistakes.” It’s like putting a target on the back of every New Yorker. My most ardent hope is that sooner rather than later he’s led out of the White House in handcuffs.
Look, I tried to like this guy.
But have come to the sad conclusion that he’s nothing but a Saul Alinsky poster boy who should be tried in open court for intentional misfeasance, lying under oath on Jan. 20th and conspiracy to obstruct justice. He’s lost his right, in my opinion, to breathe the air of law abiding people. I don’t wish any harm to come to this light skinned African American, brown eyed, big eared handsome mean. I just think he’s made a mockery of the constitution. In my book, Barack Obama is a sham of a scam of a travesty. And should be ridden out of town in a rail.
Peculating D-rat machine-candidates are wannabe Commissars and Gauleiters. The fatuous PCBS Republican establishment is worse than useless. Should Palin somehow blast by perpetual-incumbents’ self-serving roadblocks to promote Tea Party activists to power (a contradiction-in-terms?), our interest may revive after, lo! these many moons.
Meantime, there are yet Federalists about (Hamiltonian entrepreneurs, small-D Jeffersonian democrats, Madisonian libertarians) who contemplate death-eating Luddite sociopaths’ collectivist Statism with sheer physical revulsion. “The Tree of Liberty is watered with the blood of tyrants” said Great Tom… indeed. Mayhap in 2010 that time has come again.
It seems the latest poll by the Suffolk University Poll has Scott Brown ahead by 4 points at 50 Brown 46 Coakley 3 Kennedy and 1 percent undecided!
http://www1.whdh.com/features/articles/hiller/BO133471/
I will definitely be watching the results next Tuesday! Hope to get great news on that day!
Ship more ammo up to MA for all the Dem suicides coming on Tuesday.
I want to believe.
I’m from Massachusetts, currently a registered Democrat. I am voting for Scott Brown, and I am planning to change my party affiliation. This is NOT the Democratic party that my parents and grandparents were so dedicated to.
Just to let you know, and it’s not huge, but 100% of the people I have asked have told me they are voting for Brown. If you drive the streets you will see large amounts of Brown lawn signs and very little of Coakley’s.
We don’t want Obamacare just like the majority of the rest of the country, and we are prepared to try and stop it. Martha Coakley is another Obama puppet and we know it.
Yes, we are the “bluest” state in the nation, but the American Revolution began here, and we’re planning on continuing it next Tuesday.
Go Brown!
Like most elections, the independents will be the deciding factor.
To Rachel Peepers: I’m curious — when you
rightwrite your comments, do you actually just go here and simply copy and paste whatever you get from clicking on the generator?And judging from your past postings, including this one (down near the bottom), you — like the bulk of your right wing brethren — never, ever, even came close to trying to “like” Obama, starting well before he was elected.
Just admit it and come clean — you’re an official, card carrying member of the bad guys.
I’m in shock. I wonder if ACORN doesn’t even bother to organize in such a dark blue state? Maybe the guy has a chance? Man, would that be great! I’m rooting for him…
While I have my doubts about the poll based on not including Kennedy, I personally think that based on Massachusetts being the Kennedy demesne for generations, that on balance the number of Democrats who will reflexively vote for a Kennedy on the ballot based on the assumption that he is a shirt-tail relative is equal to or greater than the number who will vote for him based on ideology since he is relatively unknown. That aside, we seem to be overlooking something of far greater import in this race.
There seems to be a unanimous agreement that the Democrats will as a matter of course cheat. Vote fraud in any election is not only endemic, but is considered the absolute norm for Democrats. Further, it will not be punished in any way. The only question is will the margin of vote fraud be large enough to deny Brown a victory that he may have won in actual legal votes cast?
There are hundreds and thousands of data points, from all over the country over the last generation, that confirm this belief. The expectation is that both the legal system [controlled by Democrats] and the Republican Party will tamely go along with any level of Democrat fraud used to steal an election.
That expectation has the advantage of being supported by a lot of precedent. It may be true.
But there is a question that is being deliberately overlooked; perhaps because it is too uncomfortable to face.
The whole concept of a Constitutional Republic that is a representative democracy is based on an acceptable level of honesty in the casting and counting of votes. Just as violations of “one man, one vote” are unacceptable on the basis of race, color, creed, or national origin are inconsistent to that political system; it is unacceptable on the basis of party politics.
If we have reached the point where Democrat election fraud is considered normal and not to be seriously fought against; what rational belief is there to believe that the results of any election where the Democrats win are valid? And no, before any reader goes off on me for being partisan, look at the relative number of DOCUMENTED incidences of vote and registration fraud by party first.
If the results of the elections run by the party in power can rationally be assumed to be at least in large part the product of fraud; what does that say about a) the legitimacy of a goverment so installed and statutes they pass, and b) the entire concept of “consent of the governed”?
Is there a point where a significant mass of people will no longer assume the legitimacy of the acts of a government so constituted; and if it seems that the Democrats do cheat their way to a victory, or deny the right of Brown to be seated until after the Senate votes are over, will those acts be a significant step towards that loss of assumption of legitimacy? There is the further question as to what a mass of people who believe the government is illegitimate will do?
Just thrown out for discussion, as back in the ancient days when I was in college, I majored in political science.
Subotai Bahadur
129. BC:
I admit it..I’m an official, card carrying bad guy. But, I did vote for Obama in the primaries here in Texas because I disliked the hubris of the Clintons, and he seemed like like a good guy at the time. Unfortunately he has turned out to be a left wing douchebag.
Polling isnt always exact, however it is ussually within a small range of actual result, the more ppl you poll the more likely it is to be accurate. However Robo calls especially just prior to the election do tend to favor the challenger by a few points. by 15 points? ussually not. 10, uh … maybe. within 5 “you betcha” but then again polling overall averages are ussually only within 2 points of the actual results in most cases.
If you think this poll is far fetched, after seeing BlueMass/R2000 (who tends to favor dems by about 4 points, and handicap republicans by 1-2 points in thier latest batch of polling done in special elections) to Stuffolk with also tends to be within 5 points – whowever in either direction when compaired with polling data… its hard to say how close this race is… or atleast was.
If R2000 polling favors the dems, then the race is closer to 2-3 points. Ras. Polling last had the Race at 2points Dem. But they too in special elections had favored the Dems by about 2-3 points in Vir. and NJ. So as of a few days ago the race looks like a draw. However something which has changed by alot is this:
Last week Coakley internal polls showed 1. a tie, 2 her up by 9points.
her latest poll:”In her own polling, Coakley is said to be around five points behind Republican Scott Brown”
This is excellent news for any republican leaning minded person right now.
Good Luck Scott!
Don’t be fooled, ACORN is warming up the busses as we speak. Every graveyard and skid row is being combed for possible voters. If the Dems can’t pull this one off they have real problems and they know it. Look for some real stink in Boston.
If anyone sees any buses at the voting centers, get in your cars with your cell phone video cameras and follow the bus! Make sure they are not going to another voting poll center to vote again!
Take your cell phones and video cameras with you! Tape anything you see out of the ordinary! And Call the police if anyone is standing outside a voting center intimidating people!(like the black panthers!)
I do not trust SEIU, ACORN, Black panthers, and UNION and especially the Democrats! Sad that this country has come to this. Sad when we the people have no more trust in our voting system! Thanks democrats, it’s because of you and your thugs!
@59 B.C.
I have to say what while you right wingers may not know much about math, science, economics, history, current events….
Contrasted with the knowledgeable Coakley, who informed us there are no more terrorists in Afghanistan.
We definitely need such a knowledgeable person in the Senate. Senator Coakley will say, “Terrorists are gone,” and they will magically disappear, not wanting to contradict the good Senator.
Coakley has had a solid history of being a tough but good hearted public servant.
Actually, she has a track record for exercising poor judgment. In Martha Coakley and the child molesters she shows herself to be tough on the innocent by keeping them in jail, and lenient on the guilty: definitely poor judgment.
Democrats – Don’t encourage the likes of Martha Coakley. Save face – Protest vote – Vote for Kennedy! in 2010. Poor guy, even The Honorable Ted Kennedy’s wife and family seems to be throwing him under the wheels of ACORN bus.
The “Boys” in Massachusetts can slow the confirmation process down to halt his approval. The “Boys” in Washington (Reid & the VP) can slow their confirmation process and even if Brown is elected his vote can be “Mooted” if they are so inclined. Plausible? Good? No!!
We should be glad a Republican can actually win a safe Democrat seat in the Senate. But, we should remember that this race is anomalous in several ways that don’t include the repudiation of the regressive Communist agenda of the Democrat party. True, it is telling that Obama cannot go to Massachusetts to campaign for Coakley because they fear that his presence could hurt more than it would help. This would be the real step forward as far as eliminating the Communist threat. However, other Republican candidates won’t be so lucky where the weakness of their opponent and the distractions of Haiti and the health bill abate.
Let them slow the confirmation process, I’ll take the GOP win any day of the week. I have yet to figure out why the dems are committing political suicide….for O? I doubt it.
Hey Jim, while I agree with you it somehow feels like the dems are down and the middle of the road and conservatives are up. The reasons don’t matter but somehow I think there’s going to be a wave of destruction. The thing about O is he hasn’t really been able to lead. He doesn’t inspire anything. He’s tone deaf and not a very good politician He’s rather depressing to listen to and somehow he reminds me of Clinton….so yesterday’s news.
The poll badly underrepresents Democrats/Democrat turnout so it’s not worth very much. I expect turnout to be more like:
1. Republican 15%
2. Democrat 45%
3. Something else 30%
Adjusting the poll results this predicts a narrow Coakley win but Brown’s surge hasn’t stopped yet and he may still nose past her at the finish. The events of the week have certainly not favored her.
And if Scott Brown wins you are gonna think the 8 year anti Bush tirade from the lefty peanut gallery was a gentle breeze. He better have a thick skin because he won’t be forgiven for occupying the “Kennedy Seat”. Ever.
Dont let the commie media fool you. If Brown wins, this is a rejection not Martha the Coakhead, this is a rejection of OBAMA. His Dr Kevorkian health care plan is being slowed by his OWN PARTY trying to kiss every lefty constituency butt they can. As for the ACORN buses, I suspect maybe there are some members of the VRWC who might slash the tires on those buses, or perhaps stash the ACORNS someplace only the squirrels would know about. Im wondering if Terrell Owens, Tony Romo and the entire roster of the Dallas Cowboys will show up on the ballots next Tuesday.
Hey Orion
Let me ask you how many of those democrats/democrats turning out are going to vote GOP? That may be the better question with the dems out numbering the repubs by 3 to 1
# 132 Subotai Bahadur:
In your rant about Dem corruption and the hundred/thousands of data points re: voting fraud, can you point to any which happen to include Massachusetts? I have lived here for forty plus years and we have elected Republican governors and attorney generals quite a few times, and I don’t recall much commotion raised by the candidates on either side about fraud during or after the voting. You and a number of other people have intimated that the fix is in, ACORN is here or on the way yada, yada, yada. Brown may win, Coakley may win, but until I see specific evidence to the contrary HERE in Mass., I am going to assume that the election is on the up and up.
Scott Brown is leading on the street in Massachusetts. Watch Facebook I became a fan two days ago and he was at 27K. I started tracking this am both:
Fan Count @ 1400, 1/15/10
BROWN 49,703 + 2,948 since 0700 1/15/10
Coakley 10,543 + 373 since 0700 1/15/10
I think the numbers are clear. Let’s see the fan count reflect the vote count. The Brown snowball is rolling keep pushing till 8PM on Tuesday
#85 Charlie Martin. You learned English as a second language, right?
DWD: Good question and one that’s hard to predict. I expect crossover voting to favor Brown but the real surge for him has been among independents. It’s why he’s even in the game at this point, even given Coakley’s horrible performance to date.
Democrats not favoring Coakley are more likely to stay home than pull the lever for an (R) but I also expect a desperate GOTV by the party and if there’s anything Democrats do right it’s get out the vote on election day, especially in a Deep Blue state like Massachusetts. So the poll probably seriously underpredicts Democrat turnout and any crossover will probably be overwhelmed by the DNC’s GOTV. Brown’s chances lie in the non-partisan vote, which trends toward him by astounding numbers: 85-15 by one poll I read.
As much as I would love to believe this poll, I remember similar polls in the NY 23 special election that turned out to be wrong. I also wonder if some of these polls are frauds in order to make Obama look like a hero when Coakley wins, giving Obamacare the final push over the finishline and giving Cap&Trade a new life???? Just wondering???
69. skeeziks: “Now I know where you conservatives come from – some secret baby factory churning out fascists.”
LMAO! The entire country — including deep blue Massachusetts — is in full revolt over the fascist left trying to force every citizen to purchase insurance at the point of a gun; and this hapless dolt, who is of the very same ilk, is so clueless he can’t even see the Swastica staring back at him in his own mirror.
Coakley lets nothing stand in the way of self aggrandizement, not even a potential conflict of interest. http://bit.ly/6z1mh3.
I donated today and offered to make phone calls.
Please everyone donate something today. Time, Talent or Treasure!
I note that the lefties are employing the term facist to describe conservatives. They expose their ignorance of history when they do this.
National socialism was a lefty construct and is an offshoot of Marxism. Under Hitler the Nazis permited corporate existance as long as production was for the fatherland and met the Third Reich’s needs.
It is always painful for Marxists to acknowledge this fact. They work very hard to attribute the characteristics of National Socialism to conservatives. This is revisionist at best.
It doesn’t even matter if in the end the demonrats will win THIS, thanks to ACORNS growing into oaks of vote fraud,
what matters is that the whole Babel tower of totalitarianism is shaking now, and it will rattle from here until November, when it will crumble.
Godspeed America !
BC 109: “the Republican party has become this weird cesspool of anti-science, willfully ignorant, and utterly malicious right wingers”
LOL. Have you taken a look at the Democrat party lately? The country is in full revolt over what these reckless, radical, fascist extremists are up to. Even in Massachusetts, for God’s sake.
You may find this hard to believe, but while Harry “light-skinned Negro” Reid, Nazi Pelosi, Charles Rangel, Barney Frank, Henry Waxman, John Conyers, Robert Byrd, leading scientific intellectual Al Gore, Patrick Leahy, John Murtha, Dick Turban, et al and Barack MAObama may represent *your* values, they don’t stand for mainstream American values. Berkeley, Cambridge and San Francisco perhaps, but not mainstream America.
@#145 Orion… Ummm, your math does not add up:
1. Republican 15%
2. Democrat 45%
3. Something else 30%
You are short 10%
Goggle ~heh!
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http://www.google.com/search?q=Scott+Brown&hl=en&sa=G&tbs=rltm:1&tbo=u&ei=yc1QS-veFtHJlAeTjcWqCw&oi=realtime_result_group_more_results_link&ct=title&resnum=10&ved=0CDMQ5QUwCQ
126. sportsluvr: wrote: “Yes, we are the “bluest” state in the nation, but the American Revolution began here, and we’re planning on continuing it next Tuesday.”
Yes, how appropriate that Massachusetts is the first state to push back against the counter-revolution launched by the extreme, radical left.
The current band of Democrats is NOT liberal in the classical sense; they are STATISTS. Unfortunately, too many people are too clueless to recognize the difference, and reflexively pull the lever for the ‘D’, no matter what he or she stands for.
Good for Massachusetts for leading the way back.
watch out for the dems to do it the chicago way by stuffing the ballot box with the DEAD have a copy of the last years death notices and compare names vs registrations. I did that in the past and challenged many fradulently cast ballots and it really ticks the election judges off at the polling places
who lied up there saying brown on board with obamacare. simple deduciton says if he is boldly attacking Coakley on that very issue and winning…. SEE MY POINT? that little lie was just waaay to big to try.
secondly, someone up there said its easy for republicans to win in MA but dont expect it anywhere else because the republicans dont have too many Scott Browns. to which i say, if Brown pulls out a republican seat in the heart of demoOWNER-by-self-declaration country then just how easy do you think its going to be down the road? not playfully. i mean seriously!
remember what many of you had to say when McDonnel, and Christie tried – - you thought because you had an overwhelming democratic house, etc and pres that these two might as well not spend their money… well? and about that Dodd, Dorgan deal…
The keys to this poll are the last 3 questions. The spread in Mass is +16 for Dems. That’s show in every poll. So the poll sample is correct. The sample of LV and the sample size are ok (not great; would prefer 1500). The male to female ratio looks right too. Finally, 71% of LVs (people that would answer a robo-call) will most likely vote.
The poll, on the surface, is sound.
Kennedy will win at most 3%. Those votes will be deducted from Coakley.
The ultimate questions are: Will BO help Coakley and how will the undecided break. BO is too little too late IMHO. Lets say he swings 5 points to Coakley (overly optimistic) and away from SB. Let’s say the undecided swing 75% for Coakley (best case for her by far). That’s another 5.7 points (rounded up).
So Coakley will have 38.5 + 5(BO) + 5.7(undecided) – 3(for Kennedy)
SB would have 53.9 – 5 + 1.9 (remaining undecided)
So the BEST case for Coakley right now would be
Brown 50.8%
Coakley 46.2%
Kennedy 3%
If the PJ numbers are with a 4.6% margin of error (3.19% error listed), there is almost no way for Coakley to win at this point. Game over.
Finally, this will go down as yet another colossal BO blunder. The pure arrogance of the WH is astounding. They wouldn’t go unless they thought they could win. Mathematically, that is all but impossible.
(Disclaimer: The X factor being the corrupt system)
BC 109: “the Republican party has become this weird cesspool of anti-science, willfully ignorant, and utterly malicious right wingers”
Talking about science and people who hate it…
In Berkley, California, the epicenter of liberalism in America, the local leftists decided to close high-school science labs because evil White students (and quite possibly evil Asian students) spent inordinate time learning science, while some minorities (blacks and latinos) did not bother to do so.
Read more on my blog:
http://hyphenatedamericans.blogspot.com/2009/12/this-is-outrageous.html
#37 Paul – Thanks for that info. That explains much. Actual registration is 52% Indy, 36% Dem, and 12%Pub. That shows the “3:1″ advantage of Dems to Pubs. Of course, lots of those Indies are actually Dems, but those are the actual registration numbers.
So, the poll reflected 36% Dems, which matches the overall registration. However, it polled 20% Pubs and 43% Indies. So, either they somehow oversampled Pubs and undersampled Indies, while getting the Dems exactly right (a really neat trick), or… perhaps a lot of Indies have decided to become Pubs!
The Coakley ads say that Brown was against contraceptives, or more likely a day-after pill being given to rape victims in the hospital. Does anyone know his real position?
This election has broken like the log jam on a frozen river in spring on some old B movie. And once those logs start tumbling they keep coming, and keep coming, and keep on coming.
To SalamiGrinder: Ummm….using sites like Hot Air for reference sources is not a good idea. On Afghanistan, Scott supports Obama’s ramp-up of operations, Coakley doesn’t. During the debate in question, the sequence went:
_________
MODERATOR: “Do you think we should withdraw? [from Afghanistan]”
COAKLEY: “I think we should plan an exit strategy, yes.”
MODERATOR: “And how would we succeed?”
COAKLEY: “I am not sure there is a way to succeed. If the goal was and the vision in Afghanistan was to go in because we believe the Taliban was giving harbor to terrorists, we supported that, I supported that goal. They are gone, they are not there anymore, they are in apparently Yemen and Pakistan. Let’s focus our efforts on where Al Qaeda is.”
________
Coakley could have phrased it better, but she was obviously talking about how she felt that the bulk of al-Qaeda’s operations had moved from Afghanistan to Pakistan and Yemen, which is mostly true, especially in regards to Pakistan. However al-Qaeda would likely quickly return to Afghanistan if the pressure is taken off without some sort of change in the Afghan political situation, especially in regards to the Taliban. As the Hot Air people like to incongruously say: nuance. I think she’s wrong here, but she’s entitled to her viewpoint, but not to the way it’s been twisted.
As far as your neoneocon.com reference goes, that whole Fells Acres thing was a much messier thing than your neocon soyurce (surprise, surprise) portrays. Back in 1989, Coakley probably got the ugliest duty for any DA’s office — probing child abuse, and the Fells Acres case was something she inherited. To this day, she feels that the children who made the accusations regarding Fells Acres were not lying. I suspect that she knows more about the details than some random blogger, or even all those who claim it was all a travesty. It wasn’t her case, so why would a very experienced prosecutor be so adamant that they were guilty if there wasn’t a lot of stuff, apparently much more than was admitted at trial, supporting it?
Sorry to disappoint you all, but 538dotcom just absolutely destroyed the credibility of this poll. It’s a joke. Move on.
If Obama goes to help in Massachusetts Do the tax payers pick up the tab or does the Democratic party repay the US?? OH OH! has Obama given the money from his Nobel Prize to the US government?? I don’t think he can keep the #1+ million dollar prize. So where is the money?? don’t tell me is is going to charity because it isn’t Obama’s go give away>
Massachusetts peoples please look at the big picture!
BC: “she was obviously talking about how she felt that the bulk of al-Qaeda’s operations had moved from Afghanistan to Pakistan and Yemen, which is mostly true, especially in regards to Pakistan.”
While it can be said that bulk of al-Qaeda operations was removed from Iraq (most of the guys were sent to hell by the US military), it’s a very far shot to claim that al-Qaeda closed its offices in Afghanistan. If you disagree with me, then you should give some reasonable explanation as to the cause of exponential growth of losses of American personnal in Afghanistan, including the recent murder of dozen of CIA operatives.
Massachusetts is about to save the US from the biggest Health Insurance take over. Brown will defeat Coakley (aka Chokely)
171. Dwight:
“The Coakley ads say that Brown was against contraceptives, or more likely a day-after pill being given to rape victims in the hospital. Does anyone know his real position?”
You can find a synopsis and links to the actual wording in the legislation here.
“http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2010/01/coakley-ignorant-of-religious-exemption.html”
In a nutshell, Brown did not want emergency room personnel with religious convictions against abortion forced into providing medications known to sometimes serve as abortifacients. The bill would have required the hospital to provide the service by alternate personnel or at another emergency room at no extra cost. In other words, strike the correct balance between the rights of the rape victim and the rights of the emergency room personnel.
All of which means that the Coakley ads are deceptive and misleading at best, or outright lies at worst.
174. BC:
“…she was obviously talking about how she felt that the bulk of al-Qaeda’s operations had moved from Afghanistan to Pakistan and Yemen, which is mostly true, especially in regards to Pakistan.”
Not at all obvious. Your interpretation flies in the face of her exact words. It may be that she misspoke, indeed that’s likely as I can’t believe she was that clueless, but assigning a different interpretation to her words spoken at that time is, again, by no means obvious given the context. And by the way, it’s not even obvious from the interview that she was speaking just of al-Qaeda given her sentence leading into the money one.
What time do the polls close in MA?
TEXTMartha Coakley Kept an Innocent Man Behind Bars TWO extra years – part one.
TEXTMartha Coakley Kept an Innocent Man Behind Bars TWO extra years – part two.
#171 Dwight
In 2004(?) As a state senator, Brown authored an amendment to a health care bill allowing Catholic Hospitals the ability to act consistant with their faith. It would have allowed medical providers to decline to offer the “morning after” pill to rape victims on religious grounds. Hospitals were required to transport the patient to another hospital if asked. Amendment was defeated. Brown supports all but late term abortions. He’s pro-choice with limits.
ooops sorry about that .. lets try that again
Martha Coakley Kept an Innocent Man Behind Bars TWO extra years – part one.
Martha Coakley Kept an Innocent Man Behind Bars TWO extra years – part two.
174. BC: “It wasn’t her case, so why would a very experienced prosecutor be so adamant that they were guilty if there wasn’t a lot of stuff, apparently much more than was admitted at trial, supporting it?”
Good grief, do you know what you’re talking about? You actually believe a man should be found guilty of a crime with evidence not admissible in the trial.
Why aren’t you found guilty of beating your spouse?
It never happened? Ah, but there was evidence outside the trial saying you did.
Geez!
OK, how do I phase this? Let’s not pin all our hopes on this. This is just one fight, and an unlikely one at best.
Yes, it would be nice.
Yes it would provide a much needed morale boost.
No, this is not the end all be all.
BUT, if this does work we definitely might want to consider the impact of having attractive, articulate candidates…
98. Clever Poltroon:
I love how easily the word fascist rolls off liberal fingertips on blogs the world over. Name calling is so infantile and easy, but I guess a retarded butt-baby like you doesn’t need to be told that huh? Nanny-nanny-boo-boo…
Almost as easily as socialist gets spewed out by right wing extremists . . . infantile indeed.
190. This is the battle that we must fight now, because it’s the only battle going on right now. If we lose, then we regroup and resume our attack. If we win, we strike at the heart of the beast.
To quote Austin Powers, “Yeah, baby! Yeah!”
What matters most right now, this moment, this week-end is doing all we can to help get Scott Brown elected. That means making calls!!!!!!!! Anyone who is sitting around not doing it is expecting someone else to do it for them.
If we are patriots, we have to get linked up on the Brown campaign site to make calls.
It’s that simple.
It’s happening now.
It’s now or never.
Obama is on his way to MA to campaign for Coakley. The Dems are scared. And they’re corrupt.
Let’s fight with all we’ve got, which means getting off blogs and forgetting about polls and such and WORKING FOR THE CAMPAIGN!!!!!!
82. Commuter:
Your thin skin is almost too easy to get under. And you’re right about tea baggers not playing anymore. Not the name but the movement. The “convention” is proof of the inexorable slide of your astroturf phenomenon into a craven squeezing of the faithful for cash. We saw it all along. And now “the faithful” are beginning to see it, too . . . played for suckers. But now that you’ve enlisted in “The Dick Army” you find yourself stuck, committed to supporting the very forces bent on fleecing your ass. And so it goes with the moral imperative of the conservative movement . . . talk about god, talk about guns, talk about gays (but do it all for cash).
You really should strive for higher ground.
186. Lem:
Huckabee
If Brown wins, he should get a nobel prize. Actually he should be nominated now for his potential. Good Luck, 68% of the country is hoping for a Brown win.
Although it doesn’t matter, because Massachuettes [sic] Dems will change the rules anyway so that they don’t lose the seat.
198. What is that supposed to mean?
#145 Orion, you underestimate the strength of anti-Obamacare and the resurgence of fiscal conservatism and conservatism, period, throughout the country. Couple that with extreme buyers’ remorse. You also need to take into account these 5 critical aspects:
1) an energized Republican community throughout Massachusetts plus disenchanted Independents who may have voted for Obama, but now see his policies as reckless and dangerous for the country and politically and ideologically-based;
2) and this is for the ‘intellectual’ liberals (listen up hard, #59 BC): during the Brown-Coakley debate, Coakley stupidly and naively stated that there are no terrorists left in Afghanistan (#59 BC, talk about dumb and dumber) http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/brown-and-coakley-debate-massachusetts ;
3) whenever it’s anything but dry and pleasant temperatures outside during election day in America (so much for global warming this winter), it’s predominantly the die-hards that show up, and those who are most energized and enthusiastic right now are the pro-Scott Brown camp;
4) negative, personal attack-type ads are back-firing big time against Coakley’s elitist, left-wing establishment supporters. It may have worked for Obama last year, but again, Obama’s policies changed everything in just a year in office and the national (and international) trend is that the growing populist revolt will win over any candidate who supports someone who shamelessly gives himself a B+ when America still has double-digit unemployment; a manufactured healthcare crisis that’s resulted in an un-debated and Chicago-style backroom-dealing, non-transparent bill that if passed, will subject us, our kids and grandkids to higher taxes for generations; a lingering recession; and, widespread security concerns right in our own backyard while Obama’s own cabinet and he, himself, refuse to call the Ft Hood murderer and the 23-yr old Nigerian terrorists; and, finally and most telling for the panicking Democrats:
5) donations are coming from everywhere for Scott Brown, including me here in Japan. I gave my online donation this morning.
so why didn’t anyone back joe kennedy? ..a conservative…
Brown is a left leaning Republican…left…he’ll vote with Obama…
I believe it…I have spoken to at least 50 people and they have spoken to oodles more…everyone is voting Brown. I went with my kids to absentee vote today and the town hall stated they are busier than during a Presidential Election. It all stated here in Massachusetts…we will always be the rebels of change. The country will not sink any further if we can help it.
Brown is a left leaning Republican…left…he’ll vote with Obama…
This is nonsense. Have you read about the morning after pill controversy ?
Of course not.
He is a libertarian Republican, as far as I can tell. If he wins, and is as good as he looks, he will be a superstar in the GOP.
Obama will be appearing in Mass. Brown as much as said this was his greatest fear. Obama will certainly energize the base in Massachusetts. Democrats outnumber Republicans 3 to 1 in Mass. Unless they stay home in DROVES this is a done deal. Game over, Party of No. Teabaggers lose again.
208. Obama can’t energize anyone anymore. Obama is not a leader. Obama does not know the first thing about leadership or about being in command.
The nations eyes are upon you Massachusetts.
237 years after you initiated the American Revolution and freed us from tyranny–Can you save our Republic again by electing Brown? I hope so.
209. myth buster:
208. Obama can’t energize anyone anymore. Obama is not a leader. Obama does not know the first thing about leadership or about being in command.
And if Coakley wins, will that mean the opposite is true? Palin endorsed a Tea party candidate in New York and the seat went to a Democrat for the first time since the 1850s. Obviously, she can’t energize anyone anymore, is not a leader, does not know the first thing about leadership or about being in command.
That’s why they call me . . . myth buster!
Re #208/ Praetorian:
[...] Obama will be appearing in Mass. [...] Game over, Party of No. Teabaggers lose again. [...]
Preattty, you’re wrong – dba Obama already hedged on the Massachusetts race.
The official thing is that Obama will be there not for Croakley, but to be closer to the Haiti scene – now you got it?
207. Mike_K:
If he wins, and is as good as he looks, he will be a superstar in the GOP.
So, you’ve seen his nude model photos? I know if I were looking for a superstar to lead my party, the first person I’d turn to is a porn star. Good choice!
Obama wouldn’t be appearing there if a win on Coakley’s part were not imminent. We keep hearing, over and over, that this special election is a referendum on Obama and on HCR, and that if Brown wins, it means the Democrats are in real trouble for November, and that the country thinks HCR is a bad idea.
So, if Coakley wins, does that not mean that the Republicans are in trouble in November, and that the country thinks HCR is a good idea? I think the answer is yes.
215. Praetorian:And if the Barack Suckers lose?
“A new poll taken Thursday evening for Pajamas Media by CrossTarget”
I think PJM needs to as for their money back from CrossTarget.
This poll is a joke.
Positive factors:
Brown has never lost and Coakley has a venal background.
Also Clinton and Obama have never managed to get anyone elected. The only negative is the marxist ideas held by the citizens of MA.
Conservatives are making gains and maybe huge gains.
I spent some time reading post’s on firedoglake.There are quite a few people who self identify as “progressive”, and some I read actually come right out and call themselves socialist.An amazing number of these people say they will not vote for Coakley.What’s more there are some who say they will vote for Brown just to spite the dems and send a message that the dem leadership is not radically “left” enough.
Voters in Massachusetts must be registered two weeks prior to the election.Coakley was comfortably ahead in the polls at the registration deadline, so I doubt that the usual suspects thought they would need to lay the groundwork necessary to perpetrate voter fraud on a scale large enough to change the outcome to their favor in this particular election.
Praetorian,how did that formula for success work out for you in New Jersey, Virginia and the Olympic bid? Is your messiah going to raise the dead so they can vote too? The trolls are in denial and Coakley is toast.
Sorry, but Doug Hoffman was way ahead in some polls in NY-23 – a supposedly Republican district – and lost by 6 points. Brown has no chance – even if it were a fair election with no fraud. Getting absentee ballots is REALLY easy……
213. Obama’s ignorance of leadership is independent of his campaigning skills. The man is a good campaigner, but he hasn’t a clue about how to be a decisive leader. Though Bush was a poor communicator, he is a hundred times the leader Obama is on his best day. A leader acts decisively and swift, but not hastily. Obama took four months to make a decision that should have taken four days.
Yeah im following this one.It seems there are some smart women here in canada also.Check out Danielle smith out in Western Canada
http://www.wildrosealliance.ca/home/our-leader
And heres Mercedes Stephenson,a woman in the generation right behind me speak about Canadian foreign policy,
http://www.ceasefire.ca/?p=2756
And they are not going away.:D
The Media Matters types have jumped into this story because of its high stakes profile. The Dems are going to find a way to pass Obamacare, it is the culmination of their cosmic dream of hegemony. It’s a huge part of the aquisition of absolute power to them.
This is why we see the in depth posts of BC and others. They are backgrounding the election and attempting to influence momentum as much as is professionally possible. This is necessary given the fact that Coakley is hemoraging support and her win is essential, or a more unpalatable path to Obamacare victory, the termination of super majority procedure, will have to be employed to insure suceess. The Dems are willing to do this, but only as an absolute last resort.
Tuesday is going to be fascinating in so many ways. We conservatives are going to learn how far our opponents will go to marshal their forces to win at any cost. We are about to find out what we will need to do to defeat the statists. Given the events of the last 18 months, I can’t wait to see what transpires. Ultimately, the statists are going to be defeated. The math says that defeat will occur, sooner or later.
Massachusetts is the third state to be hit by the building tsunami, sweeping away only the progessives. SAAAAAAAAAAAAY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODBBBBBBBBBBYYYYYYYEEEEE.
Massachusetts is the third state to be hit by the building tsunami, sweeping away only the progeessives. SAAAAAAAAAAAAY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODBBBBBBBBBBYYYYYYYEEEEE.
222. myth buster:
A leader acts decisively and swift, but not hastily.
You don’t call invading Iraq hasty? Do the letters WofMFD ring a bell? And how long did it take Bush to commit the additional troops requested by his generals? I’ll tell you, four years – a delay that started with firing Shinseki. And yet you’d rather whine about Obama taking half the time it took Bush to comment on an attempted plane bombing. Hypocrisy? Yes. Double standard? Yes. Bush and his posse were abysmal failures, dictators, not leaders. Good riddance.
The point no one seems to be picking up on is that the poll sample is not even 2-1 democrat to republican. The actual Democrat advantage in MA is 3-1, so they WAY undersampled democrats, which is of course going to get Brown a much higher percentage. Don’t get me wrong, I want Brown to win as much as the next guy, but with such an undersampling of Democrats, I don’t think this poll is anywhere NEAR accurate.
I believe Scott Brown will win by more than 15 points over Martha Coakley. I just finished reading the hundreds of comments to the Boston Globe column by Brian McGrory (“Race is in a spin-out”) in today’s Boston Globe posted on realclearpolitics.com, and I was shocked by the overwhelming support there was for Scott Brown and the intense hostility there was (even among Democrats) for Martha Coakley. This will be a blow-out win for Scott Brown.
You teabaggers have been so pumped up about this race that you actually believe you have a chance to win in a state that is 3 to 1 Democratic. Astonishing! You’re gonna be so CRUSHED on Tuesday! And you can be sure that I’ll be here to pour lot’s and lot’s of salt in your wounds and rub your nose in that stuff in your diaper.
In fact, I’m taking down all the names of the chest thumpers. They get extra salt.
[Thanks for your input, Praetorian. But for someone with such an august name, I'm confused. Are you talking about Lot's Wife or lots of salt? - The Management]
174. BC
As far as your neoneocon.com reference goes, that whole Fells Acres thing was a much messier thing than your neocon soyurce (surprise, surprise) portrays.
Neoneocon is a longtime NE resident who has been reading about this for over 25 years in the Globe and in other publications, as I also have. She didn’t just fall off the turnip truck and learn about Fells Acres last week. We already knew the case is messy, thank you. Moreover, Neo was a liberal before 9/11 and given that the case is over 25 years old, her opinions about Fells Acres were mostly formed when she was a liberal. Former Republican Governor Jane Swift also participated in the later stages in this travesty of justice. It is therefore rather simplistic to suggest -(surprise, surprise)- that individual opinions about Fells Acres are a result of one’s political affiliation.
I suspect that she knows more about the details than some random blogger, or even all those who claim it was all a travesty.
Ah yes, the appeal to authority. Then why didn’t she share these details with Dorothy Rabinowitz, instead of denying Rabinowitz’s request for an interview? Very few people know more about the case than Dorothy Rabinowitz, who has studied and written about the case for years. Here is a detail that Rabinowitz recently wrote about in the WSJ (I linked to it in my previous posting. Did you follow the link?)
I would be very interested to find out what Coakely has to say about that detail.
To this day, she feels that the children who made the accusations regarding Fells Acres were not lying.
The controversial issue in the Fells Acres case was not whether the young children lied or not, but whether the adults interviewing the young children used appropriate interviewing techniques to arrive at the truth. As many children gave contradictory answers in their interviews, the issue was not IF they told the truth, but WHEN. This reflects back on the interviewing capabilities of the adults, not on the young children.
You replied to my comment that Coakley was tough on innocent people. Any reply to my comment that she was lenient on guilty people?
Democrats and Republicans, Women and Men, Moderates and Conservatives for Scott Brown!
A vote for Martha Coakley is a vote for Deval Patrick!
@BC you are nothing but a Coakley troll and a bad one at that, especially when you have no clue about those cases.
The big one, which she did not prosecute was the Fells Acres. Her role was that she put up the case for keeping an innocent man in jail, when the parole board asked for a pardon. It is obvious you have not read up on the case or you would know that the people involved were innocent because no crimes were committed. The children were coached. They were asked the same questions over and over again until they finally agreed to some really weird stuff. Even the way the first trial was held was suspect and it was considered that the arrangement was unconstitutional but the judge refused to back down.
The charges were a sham… there was no evidence….
Then there is the case involving the 2 year old that Coakley refused to prosecute because the man’s father was one of her campaign donors. In this case the evidence was obvious that a sexual assault happened to the child and she was left burnt and bleeding. Some of the excuses over the refusal to prosecute in a timely fashion just do not hold water. On top of that is the accusation that the family’s lawyer was trying to make capital out of the case followed by the accusation against the mother.
On top of that there is the case of the English nanny. It was another doozy with the over-eagerness to prosecute an innocent party. The child did not die from shaken baby syndrome. Instead the head injury was old. There was evidence of healing bone. Perhaps the mother should have been questioned instead of the young English nanny.
All of these cases show that the woman is out for her own political gain and does not care about justice.
Why should such a person represent the people of Massachusetts?
can we get some independent poll watchers to make sure no shenanigans are going on? maybe from Honduras.
Yeah…this is the same Pajamas Media that at one point had Ron Paul leading to win the GOP nomination. Great track record there. If anything this poll means Coakley wins by 15…
Mr. Praetorian, (cool name) why so upset?
I sense an extremely resentful tone in your words. Why? Your posts aren’t even suppressed? Whats the beef?
Do you not love the ways of this country? Do you not love the land of the free and the home of the brave? There are others to choose from do you not know?
If you need an enemy, well, look no further,
I offer myself to your hate.
Please, add me on your list. Let me know if you want to exchange addresses. I will accommodate you.
Frankly, I am ecstatic over this. This Country’s Heart Still Beats yet. I wish you well though and hope you find happiness wherever it may be (though I strongly urge you to explore other Countries – WE prefer not to suffer your kind here). Cheerio.
I’m from Massachusetts (not really, just moved there a few years ago). I made sure to get my absentee ballot in for Brown. I think if the election is run honestly (that means if the Republicans have enough monitors and lawyers to challenge all the cheaters) Brown will win. The momentum is all his, his opponent is a mindless Democrat stick of wood, and everyone, from everywhere, is sick of the socialist push that has been going on. But I remain worried. I’ve seen what organizations like ACORN can do to steal an election at the last minute. We’ll see them holding the polling stations in Boston open until 10:00 because of “heavy turnout” (I guess those dead bodies they carry into the polls are pretty heavy), and the numbers will shift towards the idiot. Every school bus in Boston will be put into action, toting a bunch of illiterate deadbeats to the polls who couldn’t care about voting (only the cigarettes and sandwiches they are paid with, a la New Orleans).
It will all depend on how much cr*p the Republicans let happen. People can say what they want about George Bush, but when the thieves tried to steal the election in Florida in 2000, he assembled the right team to make sure it wasn’t going to happen. Let’s hope the Republicans wise up and that kind of business is a thing of the past.
(and I love it, the democraps scream how the Republicans are stealing elections, while all the while doing it themselves)
What a great bunch of comments, pro, con and/or thoughtful. The best collection in one place I have ever seen. I have to wonder if, in the mind of true Americans who happen to live in MA, that this is no longer just a vote for their senator, but is, indeed, a vote for the very survival of America. I personally think ‘American Socialist’ or ‘American Communist’ is an oxymoron. To my mind, American is defined by our Founding documents, not succumbing to the evolving dictates from a flock of political hacks who lack common sense, integrity, an ethical compass, etc. In fact, our ruling class has evolved into a nasty collection of amoral prostitutes. Sadly, there are precious few exceptions.
Americans have been a sleeping monster. In the middle of a delightful dream of doing unprintable things with a svelte monsterette, a motley band of morally bankrupt morons prodded him with a big stick one too many times. Now the monster is wide awake………..and he is PISSED.
I am hopeful that Scott Brown will win but not real confident. The dead will vote in record numbers for Coakley. The hard left Dems know they can’t suffer a loss here because if they do the game is up all over the nation.
Mass is corruption country. Look for zombies to vote, misplaced ballots etc…
I think Brown is a poor candidate, but better than Coakley.
Joe is the candidate that should have been backed.
Perhaps in future races we will look closer at candidates and support.. even the Indenpendents fully.. because we need to change the way our country is run. Sounds simple huh..
the people in Washington are acting like a little highschool clique . A clique that excludes the voters!!
Yet, we keep electing them
I see Brown winning this one but after counting the dead votes and acorn out-of staters she wins in court 3 months later.
I’m laughing at this poll. It just shows that RCP is a republican tool. Did they call people in MA?
This poll just gets all the dems out to vote. I can’t wait for Browns’ concession speech on Tuesday night!
If, Scott Brown wins by a percentage surpassing 10%, every moderate democrat in the U.S. Senate and Congress will be looking for a rock to hide under. Such an ending to this election would be just as important as the “shot heard around the world” that was fired at Concord on April 19, 1775. Citizens of Mass., this is your opportunity to become a part of history.
Republican spin is killing me. Enjoy!
management asked: “Thanks for your input, Praetorian. But for someone with such an august name, I’m confused. Are you talking about Lot’s Wife or lots of salt? – The Management”
lots and lots of salt. There will be some left for you too. I’m sure you’ll be just as crushed. But that’s just too dam bad.
John Brown #242 wrote: “Mr. Praetorian, (cool name) why so upset?
“I sense an extremely resentful tone in your words. Why? Your posts aren’t even suppressed? Whats the beef?
Do you not love the ways of this country? Do you not love the land of the free and the home of the brave? There are others to choose from do you not know?
Frankly, I am ecstatic over this. This Country’s Heart Still Beats yet. I wish you well though and hope you find happiness wherever it may be (though I strongly urge you to explore other Countries – WE prefer not to suffer your kind here). Cheerio.”
No resentful tone here but I would say that the hostility towards this president and those who have differing views are beginning to resemble ramblings of the Third Reich. We’re gonna put a stop to this whether it is at the ballot box or some other box, if you get my drift. Smack-down time is coming. The only way you’ll know what freedom is is when you are forced to be free. Moreover, why would the good voters of Massachusetts turn to the Republican Party that got us into the economic and foreign-policy disasters we find ourselves in today? You can drink the Kool-Aid from these fascist charlatans. What you stand for is the opposite of freedom and liberty but you’re too much of a useful idiot to realize it. Get ready for lots of salt!
For people asking about the percentage of Dems to Repubs in the poll:
The biggest bloc of voters in Massachusetts is the “Unenrolled”
This was formerly known as “Independent”
But as there is an actual “Independent Party” in MA what was an Independent voter(no party affiliation) is now an Unenrolled.
I believe over 40% are Unenrolled, 30 odd% are Dems and about 17 to 19% are Repubs in Massachusetts.
I an Unenrolled and most polls show the Unenrolled going for Brown about 2/12 to 1 or 3 to 1
258. Praetorian:
No resentful tone here but I would say that the hostility towards this president and those who have differing views are beginning to resemble ramblings of the Third Reich.
What was that you were saying about hostility towards this president? Since your side of the aisle madeThird Reich accusations towards the President that first appointed blacks as Secretaries of State, behavior which is not exactly Hitlerian, why should we be surprised that your side continues them?
As a report on violence at Town Hall meetings this summer documented that 7 of the 10 incidents were perpetrated by Obama supporters and union members on Obama critics, your talk about “hostility towards those…who have differing views” shows that you are unequivocally on the reality-oriented side of the aisle. Not.
233. “Pride goeth before a fall; a haughty spirit before destruction.”
Curling Iron Coakley, GOING DOWN.
Now shell have to STEAL the election like Christine Gregoire did to Dino Rossi.
Find 6000 votes from an abandoned building in King county.
The ‘Revolution of 2010′ is coming! Scott Brown’s election will be the start of a ‘tsunami’ which will come to a head in November and continue on to the 2012 elections. Obama and the Democrat Congress have ignored “we, the people” and now “we, the people” will “throw the bums out!” If it can happen in our Massachusetts, it will happen everywhere. Let’s end the ‘nightmare’ of the 2008 election and take America back! By the way, it’s NOT “the Ted Kennedy’ seat; it belongs to “we, the people” and we’re taking it back! Also, Ms. Coakley, Curt Schilling is not a “Yankee fan” as you stated on a radio interview; get real!
May I be so bold as to ask who CrossTarget is, who else they have polled for, where they learned to poll, etc? I have never heard of the firm and checked yesterday with one of the top Republican pollsters in the business who never heard of them either.
These numbers are unlike any others, private Dem and Republican polling show small Brown leads, nothing approaching double digits. I don’t doubt that Brown is ahead now, and may well win. But some awfully experienced pollsters from both parties aren’t showing numbers remotely like this.
In short, they don’t seem very credible and their website says nothing about who they are (names, experience, firm history, etc).
Thanks.
Charlie Cook
editor, the Cook Political Report
Charlie Cook, I have sent you by private email the name and email address of the spokesperson for CrossTarget. He would be pleased to talk with you about it. Evidently you know each other. All best, Roger Simon
Charlie Cook, I have sent to you by private email the name and email address of the spokesperson for CrossTarget. He would be pleased to talk with you about it. Evidently, you two know each other. All best, Roger Simon
This is the most amazing election I’ve ever seen.
I’m a 40 year resident of MA and as a conservative/libertarian the one silver lining has always been that no one bothered to spend money on advertising so we weren’t bothered at election times.
JUST TODAY I’VE GOTTEN 6 SOLICITATIONS FOR MY VOTE!!!!!
3 robo calls for Brown, 1 from Ayla, 1 “poll” and 1 from a doctor blasting Obamacare.
2 robo calls from Coakly one (lying) about abortion and one that I didn’t listen to. AND one piece of hate male that was almost exactly like that parody. Bush is mentioned more prominently and more often than Brown.
Just incredible!!!!
#258 Praetorian, don’t blame the economic and housing mess and recession on the Republicans and Bush. Your Jimmy Carter’s and Bill Clinton’s Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) and Greenspan’s protracted low interest rates started this economic and financial disaster, and Obama has contributed to make it the debacle of epic proportions it is today by adding trillions to the deficit since his 1st day in office. When the Bush Administration tried to reform and regulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, your heroes Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and new senator from Illinois, Hussein Obama, blocked it. Bush lost the surplus because of Katrina, Iraq and Afghanistan and the creation of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and border security programs from the 911 Commission. Since Obama’s 1st day, he’s added trillions for what? To prop up companies that should have been allowed to go bankrupt in order to start clean and fresh. Instead, he put the big hand of govt to take over companies he wanted beholden to him and his party, rather than fixing the economic problem and allowing capitalism and the free market system to cure the problem as they have since the industrial revolution.
Obamacare, deficit & national debt-adding stimulus bills, terrorists in our own homeland, tax cheaters in the cabinet, tax exemptions for unions and not for anyone else in the country — all of these things and much, much more happened on Obama’s watch. Stick with the facts, okay?
Subotai, a friend was a poll worker in Malden a few years ago, and he said he was constantly pestered by old Kennedy supporters asking why the couldn’t vote for that Kennedy guy. He was running for office in the next district!
I will be voting for Scott brown
I just spent the day on a busy street corner in Plymouth, Mass, right down the way from the Mayflower and the Rock, with a GO SCOTT GO sign. Tally: one million honks and waves, about a dozen thumbs down, and two middle fingers, both from old ladies. The natives are restless, my friends, and the moonbats are losing their grip on Taxachusetts, all thanks to Mr. Light Skin and his insane socialism program. Brown may not win with all the SEIU and ACORN shennanigans coming up in Suffolk County, but just coming close will send a powerful message to the Blue Dogs: we are mad as hell and we are not going to take it any more! November 2010 will be a bloodbath in states where they can’t fix it. See you later, Barry!
BC – you are giving mu alma mater a bad name.
Obama and his party must now reap what they have sown.
I tend to agree with some posters here who see this issue differently.
Obama and a growing number of Dems want Brown to win.
This is the only way to have obamacare killed and blame Republicans.
They see this as a face saving solution for them in the eyes of the electorate… and hope that such outcome will check the anti-democrat tide in November.
Hey, Praetorian — save some of that salt for yourself, you’ll need it to eat the crow reserved with your name on it!
This poll is likely spot on. I would predict a win for Brown in double digets without a doubt given the following reasons.
The republicans are highly motivated and will turn out in much higher percentages.
The abssentee balots are through the roof with a decided advantage for Brown.
The independents are breaking for Brown in amazing numbers.
Brown clearly has the momentum and the tide is demoralizing to Coakley supporters. No one wants to support a loser.
The vast majority of citizens are opposed to Obama and his far left socialist agenda as well as his corrupt bribes and payoffs. I think they want to send him a message.
It will all add up to a stunning double diget defeat. But everyone better watch the polls for fraud.
If Obama is for her I hope that Brown wins. All we need is another TREASONCRAT in the Senate. I only wish that I was able to vote in this election. I pray that Brown wins and by his winning the Dems. get the message that America is fed up with the Obama form of change.
This is truly a movie in the making!
“Mr. Brown goes to Washington”.
I hope after Tuesday we all realize that miracles really do happen!
Three weeks ago Scott Brown was running a race under the Democrat’s radar and beginning to get a surge of support from fed-up independent voters. Republicans were energized (spitting nails would be more accurate) and Democrats figured the election was in the bag. I thought then that he’d likely win in a low-turnout election.
For the last two weeks, everyone’s been paying attention as polls started to show that Brown was, indeed, a threat to win the seat so Democrats started to mobilize. That was when the race started to look like a high turnout special election and that was when Brown was at greatest risk. That was also when the main battles were fought (debate, money bombs, endorsements, SEIU/ACORN enlistment, ad wars, etc.)
Well, it looks more and more like Brown is winning most of these battles. As that’s occurred, Democrats who were once complacent, then relatively energized, are now becoming discouraged. Once discouraged, they become less and less likely to vote. I think now that Brown could win overwhelmingly in a relatively high turnout election. And that will be good for our country because it will pound some sense into House Democrats. Pelosi will find it much, much tougher to resurrect her majority for nationalized health care.
skews to people with home phones
that means less left wing social dependants
less acorn beneficiaries
less non-doc immigrants
less dead people
less phony votes
less seiu bus ins
less marginal people with free gubbamint cell phones as their only contact
etc
this is why phone surveys always skew repub
This is a New Hampshire voter who along with many others throughout the conntry who are praying that Massachusetts vote in Scott Brown as their new State Senator. This would be a shot heard around the country. More importantly it would be a great start in taking back our country. The” Obama Express” needs to be slowed down.It’s in your hands Massachusetts on Tuesday, January19. WE ARE COUNTING ON YOU PLEASE VOTE.
Just a quick note from an independent voter in another navy blue state: New Jersey. In the days leading up to our election for Governor, there were equally many people confidently predicting the dead and fictitious would vote in record numbers for Jon Corzine. (And, if you don’t mind me saying respectfully, when it comes to corruption and voter fraud, you fine folks in Mass. are Amateur Hour compared to we in the Garden State.) President Obama and his friends made visits, negative ads invoking the hated GWB were playing on continuous loop, and even Bruce Springsteen checked in. There was a third-party conservative candidate in the mix, just like in MA. The Dems, in short, pulled out all the stops.
Chris Christie won convincingly anyway.
Mr. Christie won my vote partly because Mr. Corzine was, to be frank, incompetent, but partly because I too was fed up and enraged with what was going on in DC. I had high hopes for Mr. Obama – much higher than I think many of you had. One particular quote from his campaign stood out for me: that you can accomplish more by talking to your enemies than talking to your friends. Evidently, he didn’t mean conservatives, moderates, or Fox News. He and his Congressional leaders have run the most partisan, most childish, most polarizing, most simpleminded and ideologically-blinded administration in my lifetime…and yeah, I would’ve predicted that W.’s record here would be like DiMaggio’s — untouchable.
As a true independent — economically conservative, socially liberal — I am at my wit’s end with both parties. I’m waiting for one or the other to apologize to the nation and rededicate itself to good, constitutional governance. Given the current political climate, that might take a while. I can’t cast a vote in your election, of course, but I’m hoping and praying that Scott Brown wins, and that the Pubs absolutely obliterate the Dems this November. Then, both parties will have a choice to make: do we keep playing to our loony-tune bases, or do we truly sit back and acknowledge that there’s not a red America nor a blue America, but one America? That was another quote that resonated with me during last year’s campaign. Here’s hoping the person who said it decides he meant it.
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To all the knuckledragging liberals who think they are part of the “educated class”(David Brooks,NYT):
Republicans yearly earn 65% more college degrees than democrats; true since 1955 when first tracked, both men and women.
The educational gap is so large, in fact, that if democrats could just keep up with Republicans there would be no national debt and huge social problems would be a thing of the past because they’re mostly caused by democrats who drop out.
It’s not even counter intuitive — it’s obvious. That’s why democrats need free stuff from the Government and want socialism. If democrats want to cure poverty they should become Republicans.
“Republicans and Democrats… Reality and Rhetoric.” Joseph Fried. 2008.
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Keep in mind these surveys are at a 90% confidence interval, which means 10% of the time the results shown are spurious (i.e., wrong, and misleading). Also keep in mind the IVR methodology often excludes cell phone numbers, excluding a large (tending younger and slightly more affluent) population. That said, the current polls in clear majority show the momentum for Mr. Brown — no wonder the Dems are shaking in their boots. Of course they can still use budget reconciliation (only 50 votes) or delay the appointment should Mr. Brown win. Though sleazy, I would not put this beyond the workings of the Chicago style of politics we have grown to despise in this last year.
I do not live in Massachusetts, but I sure do hope that Scott Brown wins the election. Sixty years of Kennedy domination and single-party control is enough!
While you impugned my honesty and genuineness ever so gently, I guess I should respond.
Neither do I copy quotes or anything else when
I write my stuff. I write it on the fly.
And as far as liking Obama (pre or post election) I really did want to like the bugger, the light skinned but thin skinned handsome man, but Rachel, a lil’ ole’ blue eyed girl herself, just can’t cotton to all his (to use a school book word), disingenuousness. All that transparency talk, and no earmarks promises and working across the aisle Dan Blather was poppycock. Why, the lad, I don’t think
ever was really fixin’ to tell the truth when he stumbled through the oath of office that fateful January day.
That inauguration day I think all the lying Obama did made him nervous; matter of fact, that day he could have made
coffee nervous.
Getting back to this Brown election, though, I must say that it truly prickles my pines the way the Democrats have sent all those vote thieves into Massachusetts to undo what the people of that great state think it’s time to do: vote in a Republican.
Truth be told, if the Cokelady can’t tell the difference between a former Boston ballplayer’s allegiance, she might think that Al-quida types start every morning with the pledge of allegiance.
Old Obama doesn’t even call terrorists terrorists, he calls em’ the cause of man made disasters. It sure appears from the cheap seats here at Pajamas Media that Martha Cokelady is as confused as our President Obama who’s busy planning to tax everything I buy with the VAT tax, not to mention my intelligence.
As to all the Frequent Liar Miles Obama has accumulated over the last 12 months, that “FLMiles” phrase I made up a long time ago because I figured it fit John Kerry so well. But I’ve come to the conclusion that when you’re talking about a gaggle of pathological liars such as Clinton, Kerry and Obama, one size fits all.
Incidentally, I don’t think Martha’s a pathological liar, I think she’s a combination of disinterested and misinformed. Maybe she’s qualified to be a volunteer at a local hospital.
And maybe not. Martha is pushing ObamaCare and defending sweetheart deals to union members at such a pace, she may end up so
disgraced and disliked that the only place she’ll feel safe is the National Witless Protection Program.
Poor Martha, I’m afeared, was never meant to be successful at running for anything ceptin’ maybe a bus. Fact is, she’s made such a mess of things that yesterday her doctor diagnosed her with a rare form of Biden’s foot in mouth disease. Maybe she’ll get some votes from people who feel sorry for her although I feel more sorry for the reporter that her campaign manager beat up last week and kicked down some subsay stairs. Anyway, that’s how I heared it. But that’s just me.
Oh, well, BC, I trust that this clears up some of your questions. If you have any more, just send them directly to my website. force630@consolidated.net. I’ll get to them as time permits.
Tudalu,
Rachel
For some reason people seem to think a republican can’t win in MASS… From 1990-2006 MASS had a Republican Governor. Bill Weld 1990-1998, Paul Cellucci 1998-2002, Mitt Romney 2002-2006. Each time a republican won it was VERY close except for 1 time- In 1994 Bill Weld got 70% of the vote in a landslide victory. Could Brown win big? Maybe.
Actually Eric, the industry standard is a 95% confidenc interval, but the point stands. This was probably an outlier, or at least on the high end of the margin of error. Still, even after correcting for that, it’s a commanding lead.
YEAAAAAA!!!! I live in Massachusetts and myself and MANY people I know are voting for Scott Brown. It’s time we send a message to the idiots in Washington. Funny, where’s the Massacusetts idiot John Kerry been???? I live in Mass and haven’t seen him ONCE on local channels. Another thing, we have been deluged with TV ads..for every bashing Coakley ad follows anonbashing Brown ad getting out there and being a real guy. Please other Mass people…LETS DO THIS RIGHT!!!!! EVERYONE IS DEPENDING ON US!!!!
The former mayor of Quincy, a 6 term DEMOCRAT, endorsed Scott Brown today! This is incredible and historic! To all the voters of Massachusetts, let’s all get out tomorrow and vote for Scott Brown in droves. Let’s make this election the “Massachusetts Miracle” and “the ‘Scott’ heard ’round the world! ( I love that!) This will be one of the first steps of many in “we, the people” taking back our country; go Scott!!
My God are MA people really so dense as to vote for the “real guy”? Our country tried that with Bush and we may need 10 years or more to recover. Brown WILL vote in lock step with the republican party on everything. Remember the wisdom of republicans is what pushed our country down the hole were in right now. Conservative policies are an abject failure and that was proven by Bush /Cheney. Coakly may not be good at campaining but you can bet yer rear end she will be a hell of a lot better at governing than ANY Republican. Don’t lose sight of what is at stake here MA. If ya want to fix America don’t give it back to the party that ruined it. Vote Democratic. Vote Coakley
#298 Mike
Do you really think that in Massachusetts they are so stupid to believe your lies ?
Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac, a democrat controlled machine for welfare, caused the financial crisis by filling the financial markets with toxic assets.
Obama multiplied the federal deficit by three, and he’s going to do worse.
Since Fanny and Freddy failed, now Obama is going to apply the same public-control stupidity to health care, by nationalizing one sixth of American Economy.
Obama’s “stimulus” (aka porkulus) has not created a single real job, and we have lost millions of jobs because the private sector is threatened by new taxes and by follies like the “cap and trade”.
Lies are the only thing that you totalitarians can give to the American People.
Lies, and the loss of Freedom.
Mike…I’m sooo thankful I live in MA and you don’t. You need a reality check. The race being so close is proof enough for this pitiful TOTUS. I live here and the ads aand local news shows all shows such excitement for Scott Brown. He’s a breath of fresh air.
By the way Mike, I take offense at being “dense.” We are very smart people here who are finally showing it. Where bare you from anyway??? yer rear end???
Dense?????? No…your party just woke up the sleeping dog.
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http://www.brownforussenate.com/
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Your elected officials to let them know you will not tolerate this!
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And post on any and all blogs!!!
Keep the light shining on these crooks and don’t let a single issue slide!
TO ALL LIBTARD TROLLS(ESPECIALLY MIKE): HOW’S THAT HOPE AND CHANGE IN MASSACHUSSETS WORKING FOR YOU?
#298 MIKE:If Coakley(and Obama) lose the election,not to worry,just emigrate to a country unspoiled by the”abject failure “of conservative policies.There are lots of places enjoying the blessings of Obamanista-style hope and change:Cuba for instance, or North Korea.Have a nice trip!
Praetorian, Praetorian — Wherefore art thou, O Praetorian? There’s a load of crow salted and ready for you to enjoy! Let us hear from you, O Praetorian, the noble one!
Mr. Praetorian,
You need but ask for forgiveness and you shall have it. Ask earnestly and heartfully; insincerity fools few, least of all you, and never Him. Yet you will be stronger, wiser, and more respected for it.
I am only your enemy if you wish it so. And even then only in your mind.
76. moptop:
This is not going to be close. Coakley will win because the unions will drag everybody out, everybody, even if they have to open graves to do it. No way is Obama going to get “Tea Bagged” on Tuesday!
You are wrong Brown 52% Coakley 47% Brown by over 100,000 votes. First Republican since 1972 in Massachusetts! Good try though! Happy that the people of Massachusetts got off their rears and started the ball rolling for the upcoming election Nov 2 this year where more of the same will happen. I would not want to be a democrats up for re-election for trying to get elected!