Poor Giles Coren. The London Times restaurant critic has his proverbial knickers in a twist over all those global warming jokes he has to endure. I don’t blame him. There are a lot of insufferable jokes out there, including mine.
Of course, Coren is referring to witticisms created by dolts who can’t tell the difference between climate and weather. You know the kind – “Hey, Goreacle, where’s you warming when it’s forty below and Minnesota’s being invaded by randy polar bears?” And in case you don’t know who’s telling these execrable jokes – and, more importantly, being such a moron as to confuse such highly technical terms as climate and weather – Coren makes it explicit:
I appreciate how enjoyable it is for middle-aged rightwingers, who think that climate change (along with racial prejudice, gender inequality and Aids) is a lefty invention by softies on Camden Council, to make a mockery of it every time there is any sort of weather at all, but it is driving me absolutely insane.
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Well, he’s got me there, at least some of the way. I am middle-aged. As for the rest of the bigoted bilge he’s spewing, it may interest Coren to know (assuming he’s picking this up on Google Alerts) that I am an ex-civil rights worker, am pro-gay marriage, believe Aids is a serious matter to which we should donate tons of money and…. think anyone who still believes anthropogenic global warming is anything near settled science is a BLOOMIN’ IDIOT (caps because Coren is addicted to them in his own column – a sign the author is a tad insecure about his message).
Even regarding Coren’s tedious differentiation between climate and weather (yes, yes, we’ve heard this), it seems the restaurant critic missed one of the key emails in the ClimateGate scandal from Kevin Trenberth, head of the Climate Analysis Section at the National Center for Atmospheric Research: “The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t.”
The hysteria of the lefty climate types may cool off (so to speak) over the coming 20 year mini-ice age. I do hope that algore’s investments tank during that period, as well.
Story going around that Al Gore has been hospitalized with frostbite.
Roger, I don’t think you or the right can take credit for Coren or the left’s insanity. I know, I know, it would be validating for us to take credit, but they got where they are all by themselves, self-inflicted wounds really. Oddly, it is the fanatic cult faithful on the left that don’t know the difference between weather and climate.
The joke about randy polar bears is only 1/2 funny. Northers say the polar bears are thriving and expanding, not losing, territorial domain. Sadly, expansion is at the loss to the other less violent breeds
I recall Mark Twain’s famous line: Everybody talks about the climate, but nobody does anything about it!
Mr Blue Sky.
WTF can we do today? Look how the snow keeps falling. It’s apalling – just like Al and global warming – it’s all bull. And I”m full of it today. hey hey.
Polar bears in his underwear. He’s such a waste of space. Flooding oceans – not a chance – the stain is plainly on his pants and greenhouse gasses from his face. Hey hey.
Let’s have a trial, convict the liars and put em all away for so long. So long. It was wrong; can’t go on.
So can we drown the killer clown? It’s time to bring the curtain down and close this carnival once and for all.
dooodly doo ddo doo ddoooo doodly doo.
I hear Algore had to de-ice the G-V on the way to his next green company board meeting.
The AGW apologists’ reply to ‘follow the money’ is always to point out how much money the coal lobby or someone has, vs those noble researchers.
But thats based on an economic fallacy — my decision to engage in an activity is not based on what I will make if I get my way, versus what *you* make if you have your way instead…
Rather my incentive is based on what I will have after I get my way versus what *I* had before: me gaining 20 mill vs nothing outweighs you losing out on 100mill.
Anyway, its the personal incentives on either side that would be compared, not an individual”s vs an aggregate.
The other thing wrong with the usual rejoinder to ‘follow the money’, is that they try to treat direct salary as the only compensation. Maybe the CRU Jones wasn’t getting 20m in his pocket directly, but having budget which gets you tons of perks ‘on the job’ (1st class travel etc), and the accompanying prestige (or being feared, here) is a big deal.
IOW its the same for any other powerful bureacrat. We’e all familiar with the spillover benefits for Congressmen and paid heads of semi-crooked (most of ‘em apparently) big charities (United Way for example, Arimony).
Recommended Reading.
If you want to discuss Global Warming with your neighbors (I mean the people you live and work with, not Trolls) and you don’t know how to respond to all the Hooey and Bilge that the Alphabet Soup Netowrks are spewing forth.
Download the following…
http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/sh1/the_skeptics_handbook_2-3_mq.pdf
Well worth the time it takes to print out.
jd
Weather/Weapons of Mass Destruction, dodgy dossiers and zealots who want government to act irrespective of the evidence.
They’re on the left, they’re on the right, and they are literally terrorists: using fear to frighten gutless politicians into doing their bidding!
Sadly, we continue to look the fools internationally courtesy of our political liberals and useful idiot RINOs. China and India both walked away from Obama in Copenhagen.
One would think that any politician that did not have alternative motives signing on to the money trail would at least acknowledge the climategate revelations and state a second look is necessary before overturning our economy in the name of ecolunacy. Most are not stupid.
This leaves the obvious conclusion that one of two possibilities exist: A. they are cashing in on the scam or B.they feel there is an adequate supply of stupid voters that will re-elect them based on this claptrap. Maybe both.
Anon: Seems the earth’s fever has become a cold…
Al: Nothing my home-made Vix remedy can’t fix.
Anon: What’s it cost?
Al: 10+ trillion.
Anon: ***Brrrrrrr***
“Follow the money”, indeed. I might add that one of the early players in “green tech”, specifically wind-power generation and natural gas as a substitute for oil, was none other than Enron under Kenneth Lay.
I could suggest that the reason it took until 2001 for the SEC to “notice” Enron’s shall we say, “creative” accounting practices (after the red flag put up by the attempted Dynegy buyin), might have been because nobody before that wanted to say anything bad about a group that was obviously foursquare on the side of “Corporate Social Responsibility.”
But that would be cynical, wouldn’t it?
clear ether
eon
You’re right Roger. Carbon is the biggest, hottest new wealth bubble in the making of any commodity yet know to man. It’s being pumped up by Algore and his many business interests. Goldman Sachs is also adding its share of hot air….as is the Nature Conservancy, now being led by Mark Terck, Hank Paulson’s minion from GS. You see, TNC has the carbon credit goodies and Goldman wants those goodies and has taken TNC over—as in positioning itself ahead of the carbon curve—in order to make trillions of money before the bubble bursts, as it surely will.
Big biz like Goldman and TNC have everything to gain and much to lose by admitting the science of AGW is far from settled. Just look at how these groups have contributed to liberal dems in favor of Cap and Trade and One World Government.
“racial prejudice, gender inequality and Aids”…
peculiar how he capitalizes the A but not the rest of the letters in AIDS, given it’s an acronym..
peculiar also how two of the three issues he raises as ‘right winger’ problems are related to gay activism… Mr. Coren, you wouldn’t happen to be… naah… no way he’d let personal biases infect his writing… right?
After all, he could have brought up excess taxation, encroachments on personal liberty, state takeover of private institutions, religious freedom… he had dozens of ‘right wing’ issues to mock.. so why the emphasis on ‘gender’ and ‘Aids’….?
ah, well… note to dear Giles– the difference between gay and straight is one of BEHAVIOR, just like the difference between GLobal Warming and today’s weather. It’s not BEHAVING like global warming. IT hasn’t for years. Draw your own lockstep-lefty conclusions, as I know you will, but I”m going with what my own eyes see, for now.
Can you imagine how the “journalists” who compromised the truth to spin the anthropogenic global warming narrative will feel when they are looking for new jobs because their business has downsized partly due to lack of credibility and they find out the top warmists made out like robber barons from their lies? I can only hope they will feel like the fools they are.
Two other things: Make no mistake, the liberral Davos World Economic confab later this month in Switzerland is the greatest boondoggle for AGW proponents and One World Government–central control and command for fun and profit–the world has yet seen. Know thy enemy and what they have at stake by knowing who attends and what their interests are.
One final item: Rolling Stone has an interesting piece this month which disses climate haters, including a number of non-believers from the left. Veeery interesting and worth a read. I plan to write more about it today.
HO HO, Hey Hey, wassa gonna freeze today?
I love it when these AGW cultists try to bring up “the difference between climate and weather”.
From the Merriam-Webster online dictionary:
climate:
1: a region of the earth having specified climatic conditions
2a: the average course or condition of the weather at a place usually over a period of years as exhibited by temperature, wind velocity, and precipitation b : the prevailing set of conditions (as of temperature and humidity) indoors <>
3: the prevailing influence or environmental conditions characterizing a group or period : atmosphere <>
No, Virginia, weather and climate are not unrelated.
Ah yes, AGW Believers who don’t see the CRU scandal. The gift that keeps giving.
sadly it doesn’t matter that most scientist know that there is no AGW .
it doesn’t matter how many intelligent people know that AGW is a hoax, WHY ? because the stupid ones who do believe will kill you.
they (the stupid ones)are presently in the congress/senate and white house.
Mr. Simon,
Exactly whom were you trying to impress when you touted your support of “gay marriage”? To any logical person you simply watered-down your credibility by showing that you can still be taken in by a scam. If you believe gay marriage is an issue of fairness, simply pick up a copy of “Hustler” magazine and see all the groups just itching for “fairness”. Are they less entitled? Please do not attempt to placate anyone here with liberal bona-fides; you’ll succeed only in causing your readers to question your intellect.
True, Weather and Climate are interrelated. Climatology is historical Meteorology over long periods of time. By the same token, it’s a mistake to conclude that very short-term weather is somehow a manifestation of long-term Climatological change.
Anyone who studied even a small number of courses in Climatology and Meteorology saw quite clearly early on that this was a vast boondoggle. Basing all on wiggy and half-assed models, in which inconvenient data was discarded and conclusions reached prior to the models being run? And even the conclusions didn’t match the actual weather phenomena seen?
Yah, OK.
todays actual weather is the only measure we have of a Climate Theories usefullness and validity …
given that the temperature effects of CO2 are immediate, i.e. no delay, I’d love to get a clear explanation of the lack of warming for the last decade. What is the other factor/s that have “suppressed” the AGW ?
No please, whatever you do, don’t follow the money.
while warmists covered their financial interests they did not hesitate to attack their opposition for conflict of interest
there was this, on CFP : http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/18727
which leads to this on RollingStone if you click the {more} link:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/31633524/the_climate_killers/1
while the warmists did not care to reveal their financial interests they certainly did not hesitate to attack their opposition for conflict of interest
there was this on CFP:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/18727
which if you click on the {more} link will take you to a series of pages on RollingStone:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/31633524/the_climate_killers/1
I love the title.
I’m counting on unobtainium solving ALL our energy needs.
Follow the money, good advice, however the money may not be the motivating factor to a lot of the eco-wacko jobs. Control of peoples lives drives many of the global warming crowd. Co2 is not the strongest of the so called greenhouse gases, water vapor exerts a much stronger influence, but co2 is directly related to all human activity. If anyone so much as breaths they create co2, so what better way to regulate society than to regulate co2. As for the money the people pushing this agenda I am sure feel entitled, after all they’re so much smarter than the masses they went to places like Harvard, Yale, East Anglia, and U Penn, are they not deserving of compensation for so astute as to know how people should live their lives. Whether the people want to live in the manner proscribed is not relevant.
Sigh….
FWIW, I think the esteemed scientist means “thermohaline conveyor belt” when he says “gulf stream”. Not that anyone is interested in such esoteric details when there’s a narrative to be upheld.
Mike C:
I love it when these AGW cultists try to bring up “the difference between climate and weather”.
Indeed. Add to that the fact that many of these same people claim every summer heat wave as positive proof of global warming. They also point out that every cold snap is proof of global warming or the latest buzz phrase, “climate change”. Like little children, they want it both ways, thermodynamics be damned.
31. BC:
Keep sighing, it releases C02, which is good for plants!
“I appreciate how enjoyable it is for middle-aged rightwingers, who think that climate change (along with racial prejudice, gender inequality and Aids) is a lefty invention”
Fess up Roger. Coren is on to you and has a database and some complicated-looking graphs to prove it.
Personally, I’m happy to know that these jokes are driving some koolaid drinker bananas. Kind of makes my day.
One fat November chad
A floating continent disappears
In midnight sun
Vapors rise as
sugar settles on a doughnut
Neptune’s beard does dissolve
Snow cones from the mountain
Ice father eats for no reason
A hard candy comes quickly
Then throat is parched
Food is placed on your family
For the bread’s better with mayo
Known creature
Let his pants, unbuttoned
Blogmen ready their internets
Passions seek nodoze and stipends
The emails of the climate
On the hill is ungated
The shepherd spies
The hour of choosing has arrived
Where is the gravy
BC: “Sigh….”
Followed your link. Thanks for the laugh.
Nothing screams scientific accuracy quite like a quote from Paul Ehrlich.
/turns up thermostat, leaves car warming up in driveway for 10 full minutes.
If one gets rid of 80% carbon on the planet, all one has is extinction & death since Earth’s life is based on carbon. Carbon emissions cannot be avoided.
I think the restaurant scientist is trying to say that global warming causes Greenland ice melt, which waters down the Northern Atlantic, reducing the salinity, stopping the ocean currents, resulting in colder weather in the British Isles, even though he mangled that pretty badly.
What he failed to mention is 1) the Greenland ice sheet hasn’t come sliding off yet (and is showing no inclination to), and 2) it’s also unusually cold in North America and Asia.
Aside from that, he’s got a great theory. C’mon, everybody, let’s all panic!
wait…. something just clicked!
Keep following the money, we may have some insider trading going on.
Let us not forget the human of the decade: the one who posted the CRU files on a public server. I propose the Nobel committee retract Albert’s prize (cash included) and re-issue it to the poster.
“Climate” is the plural of “weather”.
As mentioned already, quotes from Paul Ehrlich?
Thanks BC for the ‘informative’ site. Come on.. the EPA, EDF, NOAA, Greenpeace, WWF et al., with the main header being an idiotic seminar 3 years ago?
BTW, how ’bout the Greenpeace-like speed boat trying to overtake a Japanese whaling ship recently.. and losing its bow! The Greenpeace-type folks tried placating blame to the large ship! As if the large ship can maneuver to catch the speed boat off guard..
Faux science, self loathing sites are for the intellectually challenged.
It’s clear to me that if Florida is suffering the coldest temperatures in 120 years…
we shouldn’t “jump to conclusions”.
If you follow my reasoning, “the system worked”, and that is why we can say that we had “a systemic failure”.
And if you don’t follow my reasoning,
it means that you can’t yet be released from the re-education camp.
Don’t worry, we will come back to question you in ten years.
If it’s cold, it’s weather; if it’s warm, it’s climate. But warm or cold, complex dynamic systems (those with three or more interacting variables) are mathematically impossible to extrapolate (Lorenz,1964). Moreover, thermodynamic Conservation Laws make any global “greenhouse effect” physically as well as mathematically impossible (heat can only dissipate from open systems, cool to thermodynamic equilibrium in closed).
Climate Cultists prattling otherwise, citing phony CO2 emissions in ignorance of fundamental scientific principles, are not just fools but willing dupes of Luddite Warmists’ sociopathic nihilism.
Rant and blather as Gore’s scamsters may, objective reality will pay no heed. As of AD 2010, Planet Earth is sixty if not 1,500 years overdue for a cyclical end to our 12,250-year Holocene Interglacial Epoch. From 1988 if not before, Warmists’ criminally malfeasant power-play has run its course in ways that J.B. Rhine, Trofim Lysenko, Immanuel Velikhovsky would envy and applaud.
Some two months after Climategate (sic), Briffa, Hansen, Jones, Mann, Trenberth et al. have driveled no more wretched propaganda… by this July, it will be obvious even to weeping, wailing, gnashing Warmist acolytes that their Golden Calf has failed. Their storied Hockey Team will never publish anything again.
Global Warming is a Crock!
Doodah! Doodah!
Al Gore Sounds Like Mr. Spock!
Oh Dee Doo Dah Day!
Did anyone notice the Drudge piece today the certain UN “scientists” are now thinking there could be a period of global cooling that may run for the next 20 to 30 years? And to think our President and this Congress are hell bent on passing “Cap and Trade”.
On what evidence do these forward thinkers believe it is necessary to destroy US industry’s ability to compete?
Hello big fan, or was. This is an astonishingly different consumable news product than what is found on Politico (everybody’s got to pay the bills, ehhh)…I wanted to wish you well, and was considering buying your book.
I suppose you are going to tell me that burning over 600 million gallon of oil (just in the US alone) has absolutely no effect on anything…no it literally jsut dissipates with the cyclinic-ness of it all…Has it occurred to anyone that if the Arctic was melting at a rapid pace that that cooler moist air would be transported to a lower longitudes over the period of several decades?? Bottom line is you are either scared of being scared or just can’t stand for the left taking the unpopular responsibility for the rest of humanities greedy fuel-induced orgy, if they make money doing it…good on ‘em…Capitalism cuts both ways after all.
Anyway, I also wanted to address you lack of citing “any” real evidence other than human fallacy. I say that because your bi-line. “Follow the Money” is a phase I have frequently induced with my officemate who constantly forwards me some new institute’s pseudo-science (Drudge Sludge) that the “we are actually cooling (really, just look at the snow)”. I have been able to easily research that every quoted institute is either partially or fully funded by Exxon Mobile…follow the money indeed. Can you not at least acknowledge that they are millions spent of disinformation by the energy Mafia…the right has its Kool-aid drinking Lemmings too ya know!
The climate/weather distinction is a slogan just short enough so that the sheeple can parrot it whever there is record-breaking cold weather. Its a silly tautology.
Fact of the matter is, the Warmers have been tactically maniuplating the time window of what is significant on a daily basis to support the message, lengthening or shortning as needed.
Everybody knows that every single hot day in the past decade has been trumpeted as proof of global warming, while cold days elicit the old ‘weather is not climate’ slogan.
Weather. Climate. If it didn’t constantly change or was the same everywhere, would we even have a word for it?
quite horroble will be that gonna be happen? are you sure?
Gotta love that ‘Cap and Trade’ legislation.
Where exactly is it at the moment?
To: Yes We Can’t
Frozen!
Health care reform? It’s god’s plan.
#26 Glenn “Taxident” Beck: “No please, whatever you do, don’t follow the momey.”
No problem. Just follow the carbon footprints. The ones that belong to the “money” are the size of Sasquatch.
Take heart- the 100 students I have each year learn the real facts about fictitious AGW. It is a real pleasure to correct all the misinformation that they’ve been exposed to in the public schools. By the end of the course they are actually laughing at Algore’s movie- but laughing not because of “belief” but rather because of knowledge of facts.
“On what evidence do these forward thinkers believe it is necessary to destroy US industry’s ability to compete?”
Samizdat – destroying the US industry’s ability to compete is the whole idea.
In fact, destroying the US is the whole idea.
Yo, John Blake #48
The laws of thermodynamics are largely irrelevent to the AGW discussion, as our planet is NOT a closed system (you know, that big shiny thing in the sky might have something to do with climate…)
Biggest scientific fraud in the last 20 years.
Is that spelled Gorefraud or Gorecon?
Sir Alouishes Gorrington during the mideval warming period saved this planet by halting the feeding of beans to the clidesdales. (the SUV of the time)
Now, on the brink of disaster, Sir Gorrington’s great, great, great, grandson is being thwarted in his noble quest to save the world from the deadly gasses the evil and apparently suicidal society breathes out.
Don’t you know your spurious history?
jeez-
Stop arguing, the debate is over! Action now! The scientists have spoken, the consensus is fact. Unless we cut CO2 emissions now, our planet will turn into Mars or Venus! You deniers will bring about a second holocaust! You people can’t even tell the difference between weather and climate. So, why should anyone listen anymore to pusillanimous denier wing-nuts who hate polar bears?
Our resources are limited and millions of species are going extinct every year! The only way to solve these issues is to reduce our carbon footprints through political action. A Global One Child policy; forced abortions, fines and jail sentences for having more then one child. Carbon Trading and taxation; companies will pay poor third world countries to offset carbon emissions produced while the public will be have to pay higher premiums (tariffs, taxes, carbon credits and rationing for fuel) in their consumption. Ultimately, population reduction would have to be enacted as the scientists could find that this may be the only way to save our planet; 40%-80% reduction to prevent a catastrophic failure of our climate, maybe.
On topic: Your denier-deranged ramblings and Climategate will hurt my stock holdings in green technology and carbon trading companies. No wonder Al Gore has security, to keep you dolts from asking inconvenient questions…