I did tell you so. Here, for example:
National Sovereignty, Climate Mysticism, and You
And here:
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Anatomy of an Apocalypse, Or: Al Gore Flunks Logic (and the Polygraph)
Not to mention here:
Providence intervenes to chastise climate-change fanatics and save the world
Etcetera.
But those little bulletins are nothing compared to the work that NASA climatologist Roy Spencer has been doing. Check out his bestselling book Climate Confusion: How Global Warming Hysteria Leads to Bad Science, Pandering Politicians and Misguided Policies That Hurt the Poor.
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Hindsight bias is a wonderful thing, isn’t it.
I remember a time when most conservatives and Republicans didn’t want to know about the false claims behind the statement that the ‘science is settled,’ let alone talk about it. The concerns were that those nasty liberals were trying to make new laws that were restrictions on freedom and business, and rightfully so. In 2000, 2001, 2002 and even in 2003, I provided many of your colleagues and co-bloggers with the proofs and white papers from AGW ‘skeptics.’ The response was that you folks didn’t have the time to read all of that stuff and why didn’t I just summarize it for you. Of course, when I did summarize it, pointing out the political and insitutional corruption involved, I, like many others, was told that I was nuts…by conservative and republican bloggers. (Middle-Class Syndrome = “It Just Can’t Happen in America!”)
I also remember when conservatives aid that Robert Spence and Daniel Pipes were conspiracy theorists because everyone *knew* that Islam was a religion of peace that had been hijacked by extremists. That changed a bit after 9-11, of course.
There are a number of cases of this type where conserabtives and Republicans are now in the midst of using hindsight bias to say, to someone, anyone…”I knew it all the time.”
As some old wag once said…”First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win.”
Welcome to the party, pal.
I can’t wait until you finally figger out that there were WMD’s and when you actually get to the point where you wonder about the factual evidence behind so-called ‘Birtherism.’ (A term coined by the people behind the ideology you claim to hate. A disparaging narrative of destruction and division encouraged and spread by the same ideology. You hate Alinsky, but you fall for the tactics each and every time….which is why the left still uses them.)
I don’t think it was about transferring our wealth to poorer countries. I think it was about transferring our wealth to a bunch of scam artists who used the poor as advertising. Who could verify that someone in the rainforests didn’t cut down a tree that we paid to save?
Absolutely.
But I would revise: “On the part of the politicians pushing the agenda, however, it was about exploiting that sentimentality for the very unsentimental project of enacting a massive transfer of wealth from the developed world—the parts of the world that work and produce—to the backwards part of the world—the still semi-savage redoubts that complain instead of working and that take instead of giving.”
As will be revealed extensively on Pajamas Media, it was first and foremost about a transfer of wealth – to themselves!
“How Mother Nature FOOLED the World’s Top Climate Scientists”
I think Mr. Spencer has done us a favor by packaging the truth in a form that allows to many culpable parties to save some face. I have been wondering for quite a while how the walkback was going to be packaged, and now we see it.
Sure, they were fooled… just like Bernie Madoff was fooled.
It rankles to have to give cover to the guilty in order to get the truth out – sort of like giving a conspirator immunity from prosecution in order to get their testimony.
But the sad fact is that our (American) mainstream media has become an integral part of a leftist axis of deception, so this is probably the only way many Americans will ever learn the truth that has already been exposed almost exclusively by foreign media.
The American media has allowed the Democratic Party, Obama, and the professional climate scaremongers to burn it’s brand to the waterline.
Gee Roger, now people will no longer be able to feel good about thinking about global weather change.
And while your at your local bookstore, don’t forget to pick up a copy of “Storms of My Grandchildren,” by James Hansen. Ah, how nostalgic RK et al must be for the days when Dick Cheney could edit science reports before their release and nip this global warming nonsense in the bud.
Even though climate dynamics is understood inadequately, the arguments for AGW are not devoid of plausibility.
That’s why I maintain that research must continue. That’s why I maintain that, if civilization-threatening climate change is forecast, countermeasures should be reversible (or accelerable, for that matter).
There is no excuse for our refusal to build more nuclear plants, which is a good idea whether AGW is serious or not. There are things about which both sides of the AGW debate could agree, but unfortunately the extremists seem to have a veto.
Until the MSM in this country blows this open, we’re not out of the woods yet.
Global Warming is a scientific excrement experiment like all of the religions and science of the world. Good doesn’t exist, evil doesn’t exist, we don’t exist, there is no such thing as anything or everything. Right?? or does all of that exist not being more right or wrong than the other but mere understanding tools based on our own experiences. This is what I think (I might share this with others, not sure)
Basically, I think that concrete is no more real or fake than air. The only concept in the universe (and everything on earth) that is real is what I will call “Feeling.” Feeling is broken down to our sense of touch, to feeling emotion, we even feel air, though we cannot see it but need it to live. Feeling connects are thoughts to our actions, etc… Since the beginning, feeling existed though humans did not because whether or not there were people or organisms alive to feel, we know that all of existence and all living things, like ourselves, are bound by feeling. The actual term feeling or word or label, was created by us, but always existed and will always exist. Over existence we “LABEL” feeling into belief, we feel so therefore we have curiosity which led to scientific inquiry which led to science, and so on….
Just let those connecting thoughts unravel…. Connections we make, are based on what we have learned through our experiences and other people’s experiences past/present, but we are all making connections, that is what connects us, just like the unraveling in all of our minds, but individually, the unraveling is different, no faster, no slower, no better, no worse. We connect, we unravel, and we do that with our thoughts, generally. It is just the specifics that gives us our sense of individuality and so on…
That is why happiness is not just a state to arrive at, it is a state of mind of which we travel. We need to travel with our experiences of the past, with the hopes of tommorow, by relying on the gift of the present accompanied with the awareness of yesterday and tommorow. Since we are all connected, then we need to travel with moral doctorine accompanied with “moral honor.” That is how we do not burden all living things that share this limited physical space we live on, called earth.
By making “God” “Alien” “Lifeforce” “Energy” or just a plain “Nothingness” into the only belief there is and all others are wrong, contradicts the existence of everything past, present, and future. When we try to figure out infinity and its existence, with the irony of physical limitation, we are doubting powers in existence, from ever existing, giving our individual selves the satisfaction of being “GOD.” Our sciences are expiring from the lack of humility of imperfection on any and all levels of comprehension.
Sometimes we need to be okay with not knowing everything, to let go of the notion we do not have complete control of everything, and let people’s beliefs, their existence alone when it comes to the “relativity of belief” and focus on bettering life scienctifically, philosophically, and/or religiously by adopting spirituality or the feeling of true goodness. We know that every civilization over the course of human history always fails from lack of acceptance of a ever changing world, of which we do not control. Until we accept that, our “me”, our “I”, our selfishness will prevent us from ever existing again or at the very least, existing where actually have to reinvent the wheel again, and again and so on………
“I don’t think it was about transferring our wealth to poorer countries. I think it was about transferring our wealth to a bunch of scam artists…”
One should never get conned by John Rawls rhetoric. Those who generally indulge in such sentimental gibberish are lying to themselves. They don’t really care about the “poor and disenfranchised.” In the back of their minds, these pseudo-educated individuals realize that Rawl’s banal works open the doors to lucrative careers and enormous power. Just remember that whenever there is a redistribution of wealth—there must also be a class of people doing the redistributing! They invariably demand ample compensation for their services.
…seems that science will continue to be a flawed method by which man makes himself feel important and more in control…same as it ever was
Basically, we are all details of time. We are all in relation to eachother, from the beginning to the end, sharing the same creator, the same catayst, the same make up. We are all just details that cannot and will not, be the the “Big Picture” individually, but pixels in harmony which are the fabric of the “Masterpiece” called Time. Time is on “GOD’s” watch, not ours.
Roger:
What about the law that passed banning incandescent light bulbs?! I think we should be on the warpath to repeal that before it goes into effect (2012 I think?). The compact fluorescents are expensive, only efficient if you keep them on over a long period of time and actually an environmental and health hazard since they contain mercury.
Phillips – you got some ‘splainin’ to do.
Nothing is sweeter to walk up a pagan progressive, the larger their mouth the better, the more activist and shameful they act the sweeter, and say… “I TOLD YOU SO.” Nothing else is necessary for detonation.
I remember a special occasion once, in November 1994 if memory serves, when I uttered those words to a legendary misandrist in the my own office, one that proclaimed not only Republicans sub-human, but males wicked and unnecessary.
After the implosion of her head upon my utterance of such blasphemy, an unscheduled trip was made to Human Resources where she openly wept that I, Alpha male and Neanderthal, was a tyrant.
I sat smugly silent with full confidence of what would soon follow. The answer from the H.R. Director about her charges of my “vicious nature” was equally as satisfying. “Ms. Hartman, is that all that was said? Ms. Hartman, your reputation proceeds you.”
Hundreds of people in my corporation that day took great glee.
I suspect we have not seen the end of the attempts to impose wealth transfer on the producing nations. I recall Obie stating recently that whether you agree with AGW or not, “cap and trade” is the “right thing to do”.
Now is the time to ratchet up the pressure on the Nobel committee to rescind the Nobel awarded to IPCC and Al Gore … full court press.
That darn Al Gore. Only if he had not invented the internet to let light thru our MSM’s news blackout.
Since everyone knows reality is socially constructed, what’s wrong with constructing it to fit the leftist agenda? All the best universities are on board, after all, and we’re all constructivists now.
Obama stated he intends to restore science to its rightful place, and its about time science shoulders its share of the burden by constructing the evidence to support the social reality being constructed by the left.
The problem is that global warming has been drilled into public consciousness, and a whole generation of people now knows something that ain’t so. They won’t be changing their minds.
And don’t think that the MSM will do anything to change that. If the story is not about the sky falling, there is no story.
When I think of Global Warmingism, I always remember Thomas Kuhn’s “The Structure of Scientific Revolutions,” which would be a great starting point for conservatives’ critiques of this phenomenon. Basically, it’s a textbook describing the way the scientists as human beings within social systems will affect the manner in which science is pursued– not as disinterested as the scientists themselves would have us believe.
My biggest problem with the whole “global warming” issue is that we are using todays instrumentation where we can measure to the thousandth of a degree and comparing them to the records of over a 150 years ago that were very crude by comparison and worse yet comparing them to the temperatures that are at best estimations from centuries ago. How do we really know what the temperature was three hundred years ago? We don’t. So how can they say that is a fact that the world’s climate has risen 0.96 degrees.
Roger,
Your arguement for a beneficient Providence is greatly strengthened by the Winter Storm of 2010 which follows on the Climategate emails and Copenhagen. The rich sought to rape the poor, and the Lord smiled in derision as He said ‘Let it snow.’
Let’s not declare the battle won yet. The Church of Warming will try to counter-attack. I see that the acting director of the CRU (in Phil Jones’ absence) is running the russian roulette line: well perhaps the science isn’t settled but can you afford not to do as we say? That this sort of thing should come from a scientist is astounding,
Insanity corner: Australia contributes much less than 1% of anthropogenic CO2 to the atmosphere. Its government however is pushing ahead unilaterally with an ETS scheme post Copenhagen. Obviously it will make no significant difference to world CO2 levels. If australians stopped breathing tomorrow, let alone closed down their coal-fired power plants, it would make no significant difference to CO2 levels. Lord, what fools these mortals be.
Roy Spencer’s first book (climate confusion) was a great read.
Um, is Roger Kimball saying that there is no Global Warming, or that there is no Anthropogenic Global Warming?
For that matter, do commenters here contend that there is no Global Warming, or that there is no Anthropogenic Global Warming?
You had me at “scrofulous.”
Joseph? Comment #7? How could Cheney change the science reports (all of them? from all over the world? Cheney must’ve been a busy man) when he was busy hiding out on the grassy knoll?
The de-programming of several generations will take a lot of $$s and time…let’s start thinking about this effort as we continue to fight the AGW fraud into its grave!
“The de-programming of several generations will take a lot of $$s and time”
I bet this is a good job for the UN, its for the kids, you see. I wonder where the next socialist bubble will pop up. The will for a global government taxing agency is still there, its just the vehicle that is changing.
Uriel,
I don’t know about global warming or AGW. The first would be easier to demonstrate than the latter. But what has happened is that both possibilities have been wrapped in a huge ball of catastrophic scenarios, silly predictions, and even sillier remedies (mandated curly lightbulbs), all of which are being used to badger and scare people into doing things that a bit of common sense and a healthy respect for real scientific evidence would condemn. It is possible to accept that the world is getting warmer without accepting cap and trade. It is possible to accept AGW without running around like chickens with our heads cut off. There are plenty of sensible and economical things we can do to improve our energy usage, but each person needs to evaluate which things make the most sense in his situation. Going in debt to buy a Prius would not be my top priority. And quite frankly, I don’t need such a status symbol to know who I am.
I think many of us feel that a bunch of activists are standing above us with an ax held over our necks and we are merely trying to keep our heads.
Here in Australia, fairly well off due to the boom in resources, we have been forced already to replace all our lightbulbs. We now use the kind that can’t seem to cope with a dimmer switch and cost several times more than the old ones (though they have apparently come out with mercury free bulbs). Cap and Trade is going ahead, the name Phil Jones has never appeared in any media discussion that I have seen, and both public and government are just as committed as ever to the AGW theory.
Earth hour was a huge event here: it seemed like everybody shut things down for an hour here in Sydney. It is not widely known that overall energy consumption was actually higher that day, as people used more in the hours before and after. But after all, it is the symbolism that counts–just like with the light bulbs. Right?