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August 5th, 2014 - 4:04 pm

The UK’s top public doctor says the failure to find a cure for Ebola represents underscores “the moral bankruptcy of capitalism”.  Does that mean we can expect an Ebola vaccine from a socialist country any day now? Or one developed by the public doctor’s public system?  That’s not what he means. What he might be referring to is the dramatic recovery of two missionary healthworkers in Liberia following the administration of the experimental Zmapp serum.

This will be cited as proof that the cure for Ebola was only “50 white people away”.  Professor John Ashton, president of the UK Faculty of Public Health, an independent body for specialists in public health in the United Kingdom said as much. No cures for blacks. “They’d find a cure if Ebola came to London,” he said.

But who’s ‘they’ kemo sabe?  Not his public system.  ’They’ is the morally bankrupt capitalist system that he hates so much. Now if only we could put the morally bankrupt capitalist system under the control of public doctors then all would be well.

Would the public doctors really decide to develop a cure for Ebola? The sad fact is that  if they tested Zmapp on black Africans during this Ebola outbreak the media would claim they were being used as lab rats. The only acceptable way to test the new uncertified medication in Liberia was on two white Americans. That way if the serum failed the UN wouldn’t sue. As it is the Kentucky Bioprocessing, a subsidiary of Reynolds American, is not out of the woods yet. If it failed critics would note that the drug supplied was made from tobacco plants.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration must grant permission to use experimental treatments in the United States, but the FDA does not have authority over the use of such a drug in other countries, and the aid workers were first treated in Liberia. An FDA spokeswoman said she could not confirm or deny FDA granting access to any experimental therapy for the aid workers while in the U.S.

Why do ‘they’ succeed? Ironically, it is because ‘they’ can fail, if necessary time and again. Megan McArdle notes that medical innovation comes, almost by definition, from attempts at doing the impossible. Throwing resources at iffy causes is a form of luxury spending. But one side effect of trying to ‘uselessly prolong life’ is the emergence of treatments and even palliative devices that over time expand the frontiers of medical science. McArdle quotes Glenn Reynolds’ experience with his family’s ailments:

My mother had a hip replacement. … Not too long ago, she would have been chairbound.

My father had prostate cancer…It was treated with radioactive “seed” implants. He’s now been cancer-free for several years, without the side effects of earlier treatments — or, worse, of cancer.

My daughter had endoscopic sinus surgery … A head CT scan done on a fancy new in-office machine showed a nasty festering infection … Before laparoscopy, her condition would probably have remained untreated, and she would have been another “sickly” kid. …

The normal critique of socialized medicine is to point out that people have to wait a long time for these kinds of treatments in places like Britain. And that’s certainly a valid critique. I’m sure my mom and daughter would still be waiting for their treatments, while my father and wife would probably be dead.

The key point, though, is that these treatments didn’t just come out out of the blue. They were developed by drug companies and device makers who thought they had a good market for things that would make people feel better.

Luxury spending is normally unreasonable. Olga Khazan, writing recently in The Atlantic, argued that developing an Ebola cure would be a criminal waste of resources. In her article “An Ebola Vaccine Is Not the Answer” Khazan said, quarantine is by far the cheaper alternative. She presented this chart as proof, writing “malaria kills a child every minute. Meanwhile, here’s a look at how many people die from Ebola compared with other deadly diseases”

Not Worth Curing

Not Worth Curing

And she’s right. From a statistical point of view, it is a waste of resources. Who can argue? Dr. Kent Brantly and Nancy Writebol that’s who. What arguments like Khazan miss are that statistics represent aggregates. But the aggregates are made up of individual bets. And it is in the individual outcomes that progress is made.

Was it cost effective to send a private jet to Liberia with an experimental vaccine that was at best a long shot? No. Definitely not. There was nothing reasonable about it. The odds were overwhelmingly that both Brantly and Writebol would at best, receive no benefit. Yet if a cure emerges for Ebola it will be from the efforts of unreasonable people like the two missionaries and not the oh-so-reasonable public health mandarins.

Barry Werth, writing in the MIT Technology Review notes that pharmaceutical R&D is supported by what might be termed defects in the US insurance system.

Because of medical insurance, co-pay reductions, and expanded access programs for the uninsured, relatively few Americans pay more than a few thousand dollars per year for even the most expensive drugs. The primary customers in the United States are not patients or even individual physicians, although physicians can drive demand for a drug; rather, the customers are the government (through Medicare and Medicaid) and private insurance companies. And since the insurer or government is picking up the check, companies can and do set prices that few individuals could pay. In the jargon of economics, the demand for therapeutic drugs is “price inelastic”: increasing the price doesn’t reduce how much the drugs are used. Prices are set and raised according to what the market will bear, and the parties who actually pay the drug companies will meet whatever price is charged for an effective drug to which there is no alternative. And so in determining the price for a drug, companies ask themselves questions that have next to nothing to do with the drugs’ costs.

This generates tremendous costs — which is bad — but what it also creates a market for innovation. Walter Russell Mead, writing in American Interest notes, that after the US system has picked up the R&D tab via high prices, the rest of the world gets to buy it at marginal cost.

A new pill for hepatitis C is unmasking a huge global inequality in pharmaceutical costs—one that disproportionately burdens the United States. The FT has a must-read report on Solvadi, a drug developed by Gilead Sciences that costs $84,000 for a 12-week course of treatment for American patients, but sells for a song in other countries—as low as $11 per pill in Egypt, for example. As a result, an increasingly noisy movement in America is starting to ask why this is:

“The answer is because it can,” says [Chief medical officer of Express Scripts] Dr [Steve] Miller, one of Gilead’s fiercest critics. “Sovaldi has shone a light on the fact America is subsidising healthcare innovation for the rest of the world.”

This is unfair to the US consumer, but there’s no denying that many routine medical procedures were once exotic and luxury health goods. This is not entirely good news. Over time medical innovation does two contradictory things: it decreases the cost of individual procedures but increases the total spending on health care. Take Sovaldi, which costs $1,000 a pill or $84,000 a full treatment. It’s expensive, but not by comparison with a liver transplant, which costs $600,000. Yet in the aggregate, Sovaldi will devastate schemes like Obamacare. So Oregon is restricting it.

The reason is simple. Liver, transplants might cost individually more but in the aggregate cost less. You can treat 100 of 1000 patients with liver transplants at $600,000 each — and bury the rest. That is still cheaper than treating 1,000 patients at $84,000 each.  But maybe life extension should be the growth industry of the 21st century.  Our decadent capitalist civilization spends a declining percentage of income on food, shelter and clothing and there is nothing illogical about devoting a greater share of resources to the ‘unreasonable’ goal of keeping grandma comfortable and alive.

Whenever you discover a new cure, you have a problem. When most diseases were incurable, health care was cheap because you hired a grave digger and that was it. It’s when a cure is discovered that one can start ranting about the unfairness of it all. Ebola doesn’t illustrate the moral failure of capitalism; if anything it underscores the creative dilemma of private unreasonableness.

Those of us who have been trained to submit to the calculations of the unimpeachably reasonable mandarins should remember that in a free society nobody is required to be sensible so long as they do no harm. Because new information is in the outlier, eventually the boundaries of knowledge are pushed back. Once upon a time both the Internet and GPS were being denounced by the Left as a waste of money, or products of the military industrial complex.  Now they want the UN in charge of it.

As a movie about space adventurers says, progress comes from those who are unreasonable. Having experienced the bettering attacks of cosmic government, the  hero says: “sure as I know anything I know this, they will try again. Maybe on another world, maybe on this very ground swept clean. A year from now, ten, they’ll swing back to the belief that they can make people…better. And I do not hold to that. So no more running. I aim to misbehave.”

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"The reason is simple. Liver, transplants might cost individually more but in the aggregate cost less. You can treat 100 of 1000 patients with liver transplants at $600,000 each — and bury the rest."

Didn't someone name this kind of thing death panels?

Which 100 get treated? Can you guess?
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Do not expect ANYTHING from a public health system, including the truth. One of the cases worrying Britons is a woman flying from Gambia into Gatwick airport in Britain a few days ago. Shortly before landing she began vomiting, sweating profusely, and was dead shortly after landing. Of course, Ebola was the first thing on everyone's mind. Within two hours of her death, HM Government, through the National Health Service, formally announced that she had been tested and it was confirmed that she DID NOT have Ebola. The official cause of death is "natural causes". They apparently have a problem with "sudden onset natural causes" syndrome in Britain that mimics Ebola.

Two hours.

1) Since when do we have a medical test that will give a definite result, positive or negative, for a virus in that short a time span? If you are already in a hospital here with something critical, how long does it take to get test results back?

2) This is the British government that has been routinely lying to its people, especially about health, since before Obama was an evil gleam in his daddy's eye.

3) This is the National Health Service, which is as close to government funded routine genocide as you are going to find since 1945. I had a family member in what was then the very newest NHS hospital, being less than a year old at the time. It was in the very posh neighborhood of Kensington. It took them hours to find a working IV infusion pump and lab measurements of something as simple as ketones in the blood took 24 hours. They don't do anything right.

4) Britain is not ready for any pandemic response. In all of Britain there are only two [2] level 4 isolation beds. What are the odds that they can have a definite, negative test result in less time than it takes to get admitted to the hospital?

Add to that, this information from Sinai Medical Center in Manhattan. Sunday a man flew back to the US from West Africa. Sunday night, he presented himself at Sinai Medical Center ER with symptoms not unlike Ebola. He is still there. Today it was announced that they will not have the results from the tests for Ebola they took Sunday night until Wednesday. It takes 2-3 days. And that is with the resources of the American -v- Brit health care systems.

Short form, the Brits lied their a**es off as a first reaction.

In a system like that, where patient deaths are viewed as a cost-saving measure, there are not going to be any cures.

I would note that we are converting to a Brit style public health system.

And that today, the US Government said that they would not put any restrictions on flights/passengers to or from the Ebola affected countries.

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Yo! Professor John Ashton, president of the UK Faculty of Public Health. Your plane ticket to the swimming-in-moral-riches socialist paradise of N. Korea is ready for pickup at Heathrow Airport.

Say what? You don't want to live in N. Korea? You're going to tough it out in your soft overpaid job in the immoral embrace of capitalism. Oh Dr. Ashton; you are so brave!
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"...that after the US system has picked up the R&D tab via high prices, the rest of the world gets to buy it at marginal cost."

And even more so. I discovered this while visiting a pharma site in England. The medication was originally developed in the US, with the new plant to feed the EU market.

Behold a drug that is getting (or has gotten) FDA approval and has been patented. Let me repeat the key word: Patented. In the US that means there's a full disclosure about the drug, including what i suspect is the 'recipe" on how to make it. And recall that the patent clock starts once it is filed, not when the FDA gives the company the green light.

Want to charge the same price in the England, EU, Russia, India (pick the country of your choice)? Watch their government delay the patent in their country while the competitors build a factory. When this is down privately it's called blackmail; when the government does it it's called the cost of doing business.
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Don't be TOO quick to dismiss socialism's contributions to medicine, particularly this new treatment for Ebola that seems so very promising in its first few days.

I'm Canadian and I read an article in our media to the effect that two of the three components of the "cocktail" given to Dr. Brantly and Ms. Writebol were developed in Canada and mixed with a third component, made in the USA, then administered to the patients. The two Canadian components were apparently developed at government funded facilities.

Now, I can't find the article I originally read but this one comes pretty close in laying out the Canadian contribution to this ZMapp cocktail. The other article I read indicated that Canadian scientists worked very long and hard for many years to come up with the two components they contributed to ZMapp. Now, I have not seen any estimates for how much Canadian tax money was spent on the research, including the cost of the facilities and the salaries of the various researchers and support staff but I have to assume it is fairly substantial.

Unless further research proves that the two Canadian components of the cocktail were completely useless and that the US component alone provided all the benefit, I think we will all have to concede that government money spent on research - which we might concede is at least akin to socialism - can be an important factor in curing disease, at least in this case.
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I don't think anyone here would say that scientists who happen to work in government laboratories can't innovate or be brilliant; there are many examples of such.

But government bureaucracies are, pound for pound, far more stifling of innovation and wasteful of money than private enterprise is. They're only preferable for Some jobs, not Most.

Also, no matter what the government guys are doing, is that any reason to shut down private initiative? Or to crowd it into a very small compass?
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Also, no matter what the government guys are doing, is that any reason to shut down private initiative? Or to crowd it into a very small compass?

Absolutely not! I didn't mean to suggest any such thing. I just felt that honesty demanded that the truth be told. In this case at least, private enterprise was not the sole contributor to a promising treatment for Ebola.

It would certainly make our job as conservatives easier if functions undertaken by government, especially ones that were restricted to ONLY government, were inevitably inefficient and poorly done as compared to things done in the private sector. Then we'd be able to point to private enterprise as the only way to get things done well and efficiently and government initiatives as being inevitably the poorer choice. But that isn't always true in the real world.

It brings me no pleasure to say that government scientists apparently made a major contribution to this ZMapp cocktail: I'd rather have heard that free enterprise initiatives did it all. But I don't want to become the same sort of reality-denying buffoons that our Leftist countrymen are.
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Ann Coulter made some comments about the two missionary medical workers who became sick with Ebola and then flown back to the US, refer to:

I understand the logic behind Coulter's comments but it seemed rather mean spirited. If the two missionaries want to risk their lives helping sick and penniless Africans then that's really their choice. Provided that I'm not paying for it then the missionaries have a perfect right to pursue that course of action. I'm less thrilled that the two missionaries were shipped back to the US after they got sick with Ebola. However there is the argument that having the missionaries in a controlled environment where their sickness could be carefully monitored does further scientific understanding of Ebola.

Doing missionary work in Africa has always struck me as an interesting exercise in futility. It's my understanding that infinite money could be thrown at Africa with perhaps some short term benefit resulting but eventually all good diffuses away with Africa reverting back to business as usual. I see missionary work in Africa as an exercise that makes the missionaries feel good about themselves but with no long term positive benefit for Africa.
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formerly Eggplant: "It's my understanding that infinite money could be thrown at Africa with perhaps some short term benefit resulting but eventually all good diffuses away with Africa reverting back to business as usual."

I've spent some time in Kenya. It's a country with many resources, a pretty good education system (courtesy of the Brits), and the people will work hard. Their problem, and I submit this is the case in most of Africa, their government is a kleptocracy. Some African governments are Communist as well.(Zimbabwe certainly is one) What the Africans need, and no amount of monetary aid can provide, is reasonably honest representative government with private property laws backed by courts, and honest banks.

I saw a small (very small) furniture business near Nairobi. The stuff was well made and very inexpensive. It would certainly have had a market in Europe and the West. I suggested to the owner that he should explore exporting. He told me he didn't want to get too successful because the government had a way of taking over successful businesses and cutting the owners out. So much for free enterprise. Capital is not available except to the "right" people. Courts do not protect private property rights zealously. Entrepreneurs mostly stauy small and out of the lime light as much as possible. They experience the same economic problems as any country with Communist or oligarchist governments.

The Europeans tried to educate them and teach them about government and maintaining infrastructure. The Africans weren't listening. They apparently thought that the wealth just kind of appeared out of no where. You know, kind of like the progs. :-) A few older Kenyans told me things were better when Kenya was a British colony, but they are all dead or dying off.
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A Polish friend of mine, 58 and a former Solidarity activist, said that being under a Communist dictatorship means that you survive by "keeping your head down; avoiding attracting the attention of the Authorities. You just concentrate on your own work, your art, and hope they don't notice you."

Similar. Thus always, under tyrants.
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My wife was born in South Africa (I married her in Johannesburg). Over the years through visiting my wife's friends and relatives, I've spent way more time in southern Africa than I would have liked. South Africa is/was one of the most economically advanced countries in Africa. However the poverty in South Africa is breath taking. The squatter settlements near Johannesburg are like an ocean of human misery that stretches out to the horizon (it has to be seen to be believed). South Africa is going down almost the same road to ruin as Rhodesia/Zimbabwe. The ANC are essentially watered down communists. Nelson Mandela was a decent man given that he was an ex-terrorist. However the guy (Zuma) currently running South Africa is essentially a criminal, i.e. he's a rapist and corrupt. Zuma has kept out a jail by subverting the South African criminal justice process. My father-in-law was really taken with Lesotho. Consequently, I toured Lesotho more than I would have preferred. Supposedly, Lesotho has received more foreign aid per capita than any other nation on Earth. If you go to Lesotho and take a look around, all of this foreign aid is invisible. It's invisible because it was pissed away, long ago. Throwing aid money at Africa is like making a huge pile of one dollar bills and lighting it on fire. At least from a bonfire of one dollar bills, I can warm myself. I see no comparable benefit resulting from throwing money at Africa.
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A UN guy told me in a moment of candor that through-put for food aid in sub-Saharan Africa is 5%. Five percent. That's all that gets through to the starving. The lion's share is kept by the kleptocrats, and actually is what keeps them in funds.

And the donor nations KNOW this. It's "Aid Theatre," UN style.
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I remember the first Live Aid concert when various rock stars were getting together to raise money to feed starving Ethiopians. A friend who knew I'd be watching it asked if I was going to be donating any money.

As real as the famine was, I knew that the Marxist regime in Ethiopian had just spent $100 million dollars of its meager budget to build new statues to Marx, Lenin and the other big names in its ideology. There were also rumours flying around during the concert itself to the effect that food arriving on the Ethiopian docks was mysteriously getting rerouted as the Ethiopians allegedly rerouted it to other countries in exchange for guns that they could use against their own countrymen in the ongoing civil war. These rumours were acknowledged during the broadcast itself and were not even denied by the hosts, suggesting that those on the scene knew that the food was almost certainly going astray. Yet, in their desire to think well of themselves, the hosts still harrangued viewers for money and said, in effect, "There's every chance this food won't actually get to any of the starving people but we should still try on the off-chance some of it gets through".

Under those circumstances, it wasn't that difficult to answer my friend's question with a "no, I won't be donating because it looks like the food isn't reaching the hungry but is instead being traded for guns to kill those same hungry people."
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Coulter is more and more running up to and over the edge of sanity, much less credibility. Like I used to put up with Pat Buchanan's occassional craziness until it just became too much, now I put him in the same category as Andrew Sullivan - not worth the trouble.

The world is a big, complicated, sloppy place, and any freedom-loving person better understand that and come to terms with it. And she may just be dead wrong - if the crisis with these two white Christian aid workers leads to a faster development and release of ebola treatments, they may indeed contribute more to the good than any previous missionaries.

On a related note, excellent radio host Bryan Suits was commenting today on Obambus' African summit and American treatment of Africa in general, where we go to Africa and tell them to buy solar panels, the Chinese go to Africa, buy the coal and build coal-fired power plants. That's what the Africans want - although they hate the snotty Chinese culturally and personally. As for years we have helped nurse Ebola patients to death but never actually applied ourselves to the problem. Well, things work in mysterious ways and maybe now we'll do better for them. Oy, what a world!
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Will climate change worsen Ebola outbreaks?

Gov Moonbeam says Climate Change will exacerbate the Immigration Crisis.

Climate Change is bringing two hurricanes to Hawaii as we write.
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The "two" in the one-two weather punch roaring toward Hawaii reached hurricane status Wednesday.

Hurricane Iselle is scheduled to tear into the islands Thursday and Friday. On its heels, Julio gained strength and shed its tropical storm status, becoming a second hurricane to target Hawaii.

"If that happens it will be something the state of Hawaii has never seen before..."

60 mph, never seen before. The islands will be torn apart.
Climate Change.
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SNAP: Teacher Found In Classroom Intoxicated, Without Pants On Her First Day...

Climate Change, poison medicines, workplace violence, and possibly Ebola.
Only the Feds can save us now.
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Cops: Woman Crashes Car While Shaving Her Privates

In the police report obtained by ABC News, the trim job was apparently essential because the arresting officer, trooper Gary Dunick, said the Indiana native told him she was heading to Key West visit her boyfriend.
"She said she was meeting her boyfriend in Key West and wanted to be ready for the visit," Dunick told the Key West Citizen.

It gets weirder. In order to pay full attention to her sensitive regions, police say Barnes enlisted her ex-husband, Charles Judy, who was riding shotgun, to hold the wheel.
Yes, her ex-husband.

According to the arrest report, it was the sixth time her license had been suspended.

After the accident, Barnes and Judy drove off, police say. The Thunderbird limped a few hundred yards before the couple switched seats. "She jumps in the back seat and he moves over," Dunick told the Citizen. "It was like the old comedy bit, 'Who's on first?'"

But the attempt to claim that Judy, not Barnes, was driving was also doomed. Judy had visible burns on his chest he claimed came from the exploding airbag, but only the passenger side airbag deployed, according to the police report.

The causes have been mentioned here many times before...
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Chemo wasn't all downside, Dougo, at least I didn't have to do that.
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Reality Observer wrote

"Antibiotics are getting harder to develop.

This is because, at their base, they are a poison".

Consequently, the drug companies run into the Euroweenie "Precautionary Principle" and get into regulatory trouble trying to develop new ones. The government will NOT allow even traces of toxic substances to enter our bodies. Look how the trend toward anti-microbial soaps has lessened kids' immune systems. Without exposure to small doses of irritants, their bodies do not develop a robust immune system.

Back during Revolutionary War days, Continental soldiers were deliberately inoculated with smallpox while wintering at Valley Forge.

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Lincoln took Mercury Pills for his depression

"During an 1858 debate with Stephen Douglas, his rival for a seat in the U.S. Senate, Lincoln became so enraged that he grabbed a former aide and shook him until his teeth chattered.

As President during the U.S. Civil War, Lincoln was known for his steady hand, patience, and wisdom. The authors believe the difference between Lincoln the statesman and the earlier Lincoln lies in the "blue mass" pills.

"Mercury poisoning certainly could explain Lincoln's known neurological symptoms: insomnia, tremor, and the rage attacks," said Robert G. Feldman, a professor of neurology, pharmacology, and environmental health at Boston University's School of Medicine and Public Health, who was a co-author of the scientific report. "
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Antibiotics ... at their base, they are a poison.

That's not accurate, never has been, even the oldest antibiotics are more selective than that, the trick has always been to find what is different between bacteria and hosts and kill *just* the bacteria. Now, this battle has been raging for billions of years and both sides have a lot of tricks, but for antibiotics using general poisons has never been the case.

For some basic anti-cancer drugs, you might make that argument, that they are general cellular poisons and it's just the fast-living cancers that also die-faster from them.

But as for *new* technology, it will presumably be far more selective yet. The promise of new antibiotics is that they will be dramatically better than anything yet seen, and dramatically safer, too. That's why it's doubly ironic that it isn't actually being done, for largely economic reasons.

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There is a drug research blogger Insty links to (whose name I cannot remember) and he says that all the low hanging anti-biotic fruit has been picked. Couple that with anti-biotics given to cattle to make them grow fatter, the spread of anti-bacterial soaps, the overuse of anti-biotics for common colds, the growth of resistant strains (especially in hospitals), and we are in trouble.
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"Couple that with anti-biotics given to cattle to make them grow fatter..."

And Hormones:
Comparing pictures taken 70 years ago with today's bloatwear is too obvious to ignore.

Young girls entering puberty earlier, larger and larger breasts, and men with breasts.

It's a beautiful thing.
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Further north burley tobacco was more suited to the climate and was grown in the "Burley Belt".
When I was a kid I'd visit my cousin in the mountains of north carolina near the tennessee line northwest of asheville. tobacco was a cash crop for all my young cousins at the time. I'd help them cut the tobacco and set it up in barns where it cured. No gas.

At the time tobacco fields were all over the place. No more. That business is long gone. The big block long tobacco buying center in Greenville Tennessee for the area burned down 10 years ago. (Its was said that the center was burned for the insurance because business had dried up.) It was never rebuilt.

Now my cousin makes his living selling hay to the big breeder horse farms in Asheville. From the look of it--business is good. Things change. People adjust.
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Of course the drug they are using to fight ebola was developed to combat all kinds of bugs that turn off the body's immune system.

Saying that it was developed for White People is like saying the USN aircraft carriers that saved so many lives in Indonesia and Japan and the PI after the tsunamis and storms there were built only to aid Asians.
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Isn't anyone else here concerned about the Escalation of Workplace Violence in Afghanistan?

There's no vaccine for an AK, even for Two Stars.

Send lawyers, guns and money
The s... has hit the fan

Talk about an on the job Health Hazard.
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Maybe we should send the EPA to eradicate The Pollutants.
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Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner - Extraordinary Graphics:
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Right now I am buried in a project to provide world class equipment to a drug manufacturer building a new plant in India to produce biosimilars.

"Biosimilars also known as follow-on biologics are biologic medical products whose active drug substance is made by a living organism or derived from a living organism by means of recombinant DNA or controlled gene expression methods.

Biosimilars (or follow-on biologics) are terms used to describe officially approved subsequent versions of innovator biopharmaceutical products made by a different sponsor following patent and exclusivity expiry on the innovator product.[1] Biosimilars are also referred to as subsequent entry biologics (SEBs) in Canada.[2] Reference to the innovator product is an integral component of the approval.

Unlike the more common small-molecule drugs, biologics generally exhibit high molecular complexity, and may be quite sensitive to changes in manufacturing processes. Follow-on manufacturers do not have access to the originator's molecular clone and original cell bank, nor to the exact fermentation and purification process, nor to the active drug substance. They do have access to the commercialized innovator product. Differences in impurities and/or breakdown products can have serious health implications. This has created a concern that copies of biologics might perform differently than the original branded version of the product. Consequently only a few subsequent versions of biologics have been authorized in the US through the simplified procedures allowed for small molecule generics, namely Menotropins (January 1997) and Enoxaparin (July 2010), and a further eight biologics through the 505(b)(2) pathway."

American technological knowhow bring improved health outcomes to the peoples of Asia.

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I think the government is keeping secrets from us when it comes to diagnosing illness and death. at sandy hook school, w/in 8 minutes of police arrival all 20 children and 6 teachers/administrators were pronounced dead and needed no ambulances, helicopter medevac or other qualified medical personnel to pronounce them dead, as normally required by law. but you guys are right, nobody seems to notice these lapses in common sense laws anymore. no press questions and certainly no legitimate investigation. just redacted documents, no access, destruction of evidence, confidentiality agreements (for const. workers?), threats, shaming, pretended amusement at researchers trying to do their job, name calling, apathy, overt stupidity and perhaps greed. donated $$ missing too. common theme these days of the chicago mob takeover. good thing we have a press corps asking the hard questions, huh?

just another contrived excuse for a gun grab folks. nothing to see her. move along. no outside pictures please.

is there a web site or somewhere one can sign up to get in on some of this 'redistribution'? I remember in the olden days it was called stealing.
29 weeks ago
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