Unintended Consequences
The New York Times asks the question that the architects of “leading from behind” and the “responsibility to protect” doctrines never thought of. What if actions have consequences?
After days of anti-American violence across the Muslim world, the White House is girding itself for an extended period of turmoil that will test the security of American diplomatic missions and President Obama’s ability to shape the forces of change in the Arab world. …
The unrest has suddenly become Mr. Obama’s most serious foreign policy crisis of the election season, and analysts say it is calling into question central tenets of his Middle East policy. Did he do enough throughout the Arab Spring to help the transition to democracy from autocracy? Has he drawn a hard enough line against Islamic extremists? Did his administration fail to address security concerns? Has his outreach to the Muslim world yielded any lasting benefits?
‘Benefits’ is not quite the word. ‘Consequences’ is probably a better term. Christopher Chivits at Foreign Policy, examining the long buildup of anarchy in post-Khadaffy Libya notes that you don’t have to invade a country to destabilize it.
In contrast with nearly all other post-Cold War military interventions, NATO and its partners chose not to deploy post-conflict stabilization forces when the war was over. The security situation seemed calm — indeed much calmer than many had anticipated it would be. The putative Libyan authorities were adamantly against any such deployment, fearing their already limited legitimacy would be further weakened by the presence of foreign troops on Libyan soil. They needed full credit for their victory, they argued. Few outside powers were interested in putting “boots on the ground” anyway, since most Western leaders had promised that Libya would be very different from Iraq and Afghanistan …
Initial efforts to disarm, demobilize, and reintegrate these militias into a centralized Libyan army under the authority of Libya’s leadership were quickly abandoned when it appeared that doing so might spark violence and undermine Libya’s tenuous stability. Subsequent efforts to do so by international actors met with further resistance and even suspicion from Libyan authorities. Libyan hackles were raised by an initial effort by the British and others trying to help assess Libya’s security-sector needs, further slowing reform and disarmament efforts. Meanwhile a hodgepodge of small-scale, apparently grassroots local disarmament initiatives went forward in an uncoordinated fashion.
And Libya was destabilized by “kinetic military action” as much as Iraq had been by invasion. There were consequences in either case. The criticisms of the Libya operation — whatever you want to call it — might very well have been taken from the lips of the critics of the Bush administration who accused the former President of neglecting to provide an adequate post-regime program in Saddam’s Iraq. In the case of Obama, they never even thought of it as necessary at all.
But beneath the veneer of outward calm everything was going to hell in a handbasket. Chivits asks, “one question many are asking the wake of Tuesday’s events: Were the United States and its allies naïve about the dangers in post-intervention Libya? The attacks come on the heels of a gradual deterioration of the country’s security in recent months.”
Maybe naïve is not the word. Perhaps ‘unthinking’, ‘brain dead’ or ‘in denial’ are better terms. Or maybe it was simply a case of ‘how can it happen to us? We are so smart?’
But the worst of is that the attacks on the American consulate may only mark the beginning. Chivits now points out that what may succeed a totalitarian state is a Failed State.
Meanwhile, the deteriorating security could introduce a new dynamic. The less able the Libyan state is to provide security for Libyan citizens, the more those citizens will turn to other forms of protection — and the more the legitimacy of the new state and its officials will falter. In these conditions, the appeal of extremist elements could easily grow.
In the worst case scenario the Obama administration may have created — with good intentions of course — ticking time bombs all across North Africa, including Egypt, not to mention the Levant from which the Gulf States may not be immune. A necklace, or perhaps the better word is ‘noose’, of failed states all across the bottom of the Mediterranean.
Since there is no provision for stabilization operations in the countries wracked by the Arab Spring nobody knows where this is going. A small light bulb appeared to start flickering in President Obama’s brain as he gave a eulogy for the American dead in Libya. “I know the images on our televisions are disturbing. But let us never forget that for every angry mob, there are millions who yearn for the freedom and dignity and hope that our flag represents.”
I am sure the mob agrees.
It is beginning to dawn on him that revolutions are not a dinner party; that maybe sweeping statements read from a teleprompter can never substitute for a substantial plan. He still thinks that al-Qaeda wants the same sort of freedom America wants. Maybe he misunderstands one or the other. Very possibly he misunderstands both. In the meantime, the US scrambling to protect assets that are too widely dispersed to guard effectively. As usual, it Romney’s fault.
Even as more Marines are sent to diplomatic missions, the Obama team is confronting the very nature of America’s presence in the Middle East. With embassies already fortified after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, officials are asking whether they can be further secured or whether some activities need to be curtailed, like assistance and public diplomacy programs that leave Americans more exposed, though there are no plans at the moment to do so.
The trade-offs of such choices are stark. Pulling back on American involvement in these countries would undercut the ability to build cultural bridges that in theory diminish the sort of hostility now vividly on display. Yet officials said continuing with business as usual seemed untenable as well, and they recognize that foreign aid, already a tough sell in a rigid fiscal environment, may become even tougher to extract from Congress.
But it is never Obama’s fault. He meant well.
The role of everyone else is to serve as the designated scapegoat for incompetence of this policy. Hence the police have descended on the supposed cause of the failure in the Middle East, the maker of a video depicting Muhammed in less than flattering terms. But the obvious question is this: if the brilliant diplomatic maneuverings of Barack Obama can be undone by a never-heard from LA, then how sterling was this plan in the first place? But never mind. Ask no more questions. It’s Romney’s fault.
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Regarding the electoral consequences of Obama’s manifest foreign policy failure, the $64,000 question is does the average voter care? The great majority of Obama’s targeted constituents could not possibly care less about what happens in the Middle East. To them the murder of our Libyan ambassador is unfortunate, but, “meh”. Unless he turns out to have been gay or something, they’re largely unmoved by it except by the extent that the electoral optics look bad for the prez.
The unions do not care as long as they get their slice of the pie. The young are naive captives of leftist educational institutions and therefore largely pigeons. The feminists, minorities and immigrants are not only unmoved by the death of the beta white guy amassador and the burning of the American flag, but some are no doubt inwardly cheering. Obama sticks it to Israel, but still American Jews cut him checks.
This is not your father’s America anymore. Obama’s been moving up in the polls after this, and in the “heartland” state of Ohio of all places. You know, that state he recently went to on the pretext of education policy and promptly misspelled. (Remember “potatoe”?)
Zombie argues there are a class of voters who spend about 15 minutes every four years thinking about who to vote for. The polls can’t get inside them, either because there is nothing to get inside or they’re not talking.
According to one school of thought, the key to reaching them is to treat them like idiots.
And like the man who said that nobody ever went broke by underestimating the intelligence of consumers, Axelrod thinks he’s hit paydirt. Just keep saying “Romney did it!!” and “President Obama is your boyfriend” and it will all work out in November.
Hence the danger of rising gas prices and grocery bills to the Democratic cause. Or maybe a loss in employment opportunities. It burns through the wall of media countermeasures and makes some of this class of voter ask, “duh, why don’t I have no money in my wallet?”
But there’s another theory. Some of these tuned out voter have made up their minds. They’re gonna show someone something come November. They’re going to stick it to someone come the day. Until then, they’re not telling.
What the proportion in the unpollable is between those who ain’t thinking and those who aren’t telling I don’t know. I guess we’ll soon find out.
Nauseating.
Wretchard: “He meant well.”
The Final Epitaph
The Disaster came,
Caused not by Nature
Nor brought by God,
But simply because
Our Ruling Class
Meant well.
“Maybe naïve is not the word.”
How about hubris?
“It is beginning to dawn on him that revolutions are not a dinner party; that maybe sweeping statements read from a teleprompter can never substitute for a substantial plan.”
As if.
I think this may be the end of Europe. Failed states lead to mass migrations. Its hard to get here and hard to get to Oz. But Italy and Spain are just a short boat ride away.
Wretchard@2: “They’re going to stick it to someone come the day.”
Well, if the “Honey Boo Boos” are anything like what the MSM has been telling me for all these years, then they much be the worst sort of white, knuckledragging racist trailer-trash. Then I guess, in this case, they’ll all vote against Obama, and the election will tip to Romney.
I think I have another explanation;
http://www.minddisorders.com/Flu-Inv/Hare-Psychopathy-Checklist.htm
Go down the list and see how many boxes ‘the Won’ checks off.
Meanwhile I saw something cute over at FP. Baghdad Bob is already taken (forever) so how about Cairo Carny? I can’t think of anything better, can you?
I am not sure where the “honey boo boos” of the electorate get their information but I am willing to give odds that they are likely greater than average consumers of mfm media, especially the evening propaganda broadcasts. Despite the best efforts of the evening news to blame Romney I believe there is going to be a bit of cognitive dissonance in the minds of the honey boo boos as they watch embassies being assaulted and burned across the globe set to the soundtrack of blame Romney. Further, given the relative value of pictures and words I am inclined to think the visuals are going to have a greater impact than the words; they will be sufficiently distracted by the bright lights and pictures that they will not hear the words. For the low information voter fire bad.
Abd another thing, it takes a pretty partisan individual to engage in themental contortions required to accept the blame Romney lines.
you don’t have to invade a country to destabilize it
Stoi @ 8
Hare Psychopathy Checklist
There are now rumors circulating purporting to expose unsavory aspects of ambassador Chris Steven’s life. I would be very careful about repeating any of this because this story may be a plant by unscrupulous media manipulators to lead unwary people into making regrettable statements that they will have to retract. Remember, anything to claim “it’s Romney’s fault!!” Besides, it has nothing to do with anything. Never repeat what you can’t check.
#7. Ignominious
Honey Boo-boos?
How about the “Dancing with the wannabees” or “Prancing with the hot-shots”?
“Kitchen Idol”, anyone?
Give them bread and circuses and put the geese to guard the door.
As I live and breath, I have not seen such duplicity and down right lying as I see today.
Honey Boo Boo people AKA Jersey shore voters get their voting information from the folks they drink beer with on the front stoop. Most families have one or two individuals that are internet connected, usually just Faceplant and a car forum. These ICs are the genesis of current event thought in the trailer park. But it will breakdown in a union/non union set. Those who live in or around a union demographic will vote D and almost always straight ticket and those outside of the union demo will vote R straight ticket. And this is assuming that they even bother to go vote at all.
The reasons they don’t vote are numerous. Running the gamut from can’t get up off the couch because their show is on to I already went on a beer run and can’t afford the gas to go out again.
Court them all you want but you are really trying to bail water with a sieve…
‘Maybe naïve is not the word. Perhaps ‘unthinking’, ‘brain dead’ or ‘in denial’ are better terms. Or maybe it was simply a case of ‘how can it happen to us? We are (just) so (frikken) smart?’ (Hey. I’m just sayin’ what they’re thinkin’. Don’t blame the editing messenger. Sorry for the impertinence).
My Dear Friend,
You have, once again, hit that ol’ nail right skwar on duh haid and done druv her home! In one pithy paragraph fragment, you have just revealed the entire truth about Ostupidhead, his Obamite minions, and everyone else in Government, at all levels.
They are JUST THAT STUPID, and in love with their own stank, above all else! Dem nasty ol’ faks is fixin’ to tear up they day!
The onloy thing worse for Obumble than losing the election will be winning it. Between Iran, Libya and Bernanke, the next four years will be worse than the last four.
oh my. here I go again.
c @ 1: the $64,000 question
Try $64,000,000,000,000.
w @ 2: Zombie argues there are a class of voters who spend about 15 minutes every four years thinking about who to vote for. The polls can’t get inside them, either because there is nothing to get inside or they’re not talking.
I think the term for such people is, “Normal”.
w @ 12: There are now rumors circulating purporting to expose unsavory aspects of ambassador Chris Steven’s life.
Also about Obambus’.
I am however not certain that it matters much in either case even if true, not because “there’s nothing wrong with that”, but that whatever signal value it might have had has long been overtaken by events.
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Intervention under the aegis of a “responsibility to protect” may have replaced a totalitarian state with a Failed State.
State, state, what is state?
Islam does not believe in secular states, nor really religious ones, just Allah and submission. In this Islam is either very idealistic or very hypocritical, or both, as the tribal cultures in which it is set comprise a secular state, like it or not. Islam for 1500 years has effectively meant chaos where it is practiced, and submission to what we in the west call the state of nature, life being nasty, brutish, and short. There are exactly no cases where this has been replaced by a secular democracy, … well, Pakistan is *almost* an example, except that the democratic government (such as it is) barely rules half their territory. Saudi Arabia? Except for oil they would be goat farmers and nothing more, and are barely more even with oil.
OK all this is familiar, but the point is our president, by his dogma, doesn’t much believe in Westphalian states, either. Maybe he’s not a Muslim, but that doesn’t explain why he thinks that neither the US asserting itself as a state, nor the US insisting that other countries be held accountable as states, will not simply fall into the rest of my above recitation of chaos and carnage. Oh yes, of course, when it comes to collecting taxes and handing out food stamps and fake money, THEN he’s big on The State. Got some serious cognitive dissonance going on there, I guess, probably accounts for his playing so much golf.
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I guess the hot question right now is what direction events will now take, given that the free world is being lead by a behind, … which is not to let off the hook additional national and world politicians who also could be doing a shitload more than they are.
How about an other example, to wit: a near & dear one, self employed, invalid spouse, when asked, ” who will you vote for??”…the answer was:” doesn’t matter, they are both alike & it won’t pay my mortgage…same crap who ever wins”..
“Until then, they’re not telling.”
My phone has been ringing four to five times a day and into the night. It’s all pollsters. I’ve told friends and family to leave a message cause I’m not answering the phone for the time being. I guess I’m in a target demographic. Those few times I’ve picked up an heard the switch in the background or the boiler room in operation, I just hang up. They have your number, that means they have your address. It’s all driven me to the point that we may need legislation requiring a Miranda style warning by any pollster – “You have a right to a secret ballot. By discussing anything with us, you surrender that right. You may decline any discussion with us. Do you understand that right?”
Obama’s Middle-East security strategy appears to be arresting Christian film-makers or bullying Google to remove some pissant video or having our President beg a private citizen not to burn a Koran. That’s it.
Every MSM report begins, “the surge of violence in the Middle East in reaction to an anti-Islam film……” Ask Lara Logan which film caused the riot leading to her gang rape.
Oh, just saw this:
http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/150781/
We cannot wait till November-we need to drag this scoundrel out of the WH by his feet and put him at Gitmo. He’s more dangerous than anyone there.
The New York Times questions the Obama foreign policy and Joe Biden is outraged.
I do not understand, Joe cried
A pained look on his face
The New York Times of all our pals!
I tell you, quel disgrace!
They’re questioning your policy
Regards each Arab state
And wonder if it comes down to
Too little and too late
Barack Hussein Obama smiled
Said Joe, the game is played
Between the lines where foul is fair
And friends appear to fade
The Times is rightly on our side
The story is a plant
To make it seem they will be fair
And Joe, of course they can’t
Our policy is not too late
Too little or off course
I’ve spent apologetic years
To show we’re the weak horse
And I’ve succeeded by and large
Despised we are, not feared
So if you think the Times has strayed
Then Joe you sure are weird
Many of us BCers have noted that the foreign press commonly do better reporting on American affairs than our own.
Check out the current piece by Carolyn Glick in the Jerusalem Post for a crystalline description of our current mess in the MENA.
Then go get drunk …
11. Aristide; Thanks. I did not check my URL. My bad. It has been misting and I’m too old to ride on slick roads. I need the stimulation of rolling my Yamaha down country roads waving at cows to get my day started right. Doctor won’t let me drink real coffee anymore so it’s hard to get started by myself.
The Left was noted for the Drumbeat approach to attacking its opposition.
Every year on the anniversary of the crime NPR talks about the deaths of some nuns in central America that the Reagan Admin was not responsible for but should have been, or something.
For G.W. Bush we had Plamegate, which now even the NYT says shows it was Valerie and her hubby were the ones who were lying.
And there was the 7 US Attorneys firing, which were are told (by Hillary) that it was a terrible thing to fire 7 for cause but Okay to fire them all for no cause.
Then there was the Iran Atomic Assessment, which did not even say what it was reported to have and the Ballistic Missile Threat Assessment which was proved wrong within 6 months.
Drumbeats are made by beating on hollow things. And very few people know the facts and far fewer still the real facts. But the rumble in the background gives people the feeling that Something is Wrong With These People.
And now the Obama Admin has created its own disquieting drumbeat. That’s what is important.
“It is beginning to dawn on him that revolutions are not a dinner party”
With all due respect, Wretchard, I have to disagree. Although there is question where the perpetual night comes from; dawn is not coming.
Either he is blinded by ideology, based on the fact that he has never had to ever deal with reality outside of the racist, Marxist cocoon he was raised in until he first put his dirty feet up on the Resolute Desk; or he already knows what a Revolution entails, and is busy bringing it to us. And he has the full knowledge that there will be blood in the streets and is eagerly anticipating it. I more than suspect that he has taken personal and private joy in the deaths of our people in Libya.
Subotai Bahadur
Speaking of Unintended Consequences and dinner party revolutions…Have ya’ll seen the latest [timely] cautionary tale by Matt Bracken?
(What I Saw At The Coup)
to W. @12:
my third try at posting this::
Canada’s values-based foreign policy
How the government of Canada is promoting freedom, democracy,
human rights and the rule of law
How Canada is actively promoting women’s rights, fighting movements
to criminalize gays and lesbians, and defending religious freedoms
re: http://www.corim.qc.ca/index.php?idsession=0&cate=&recherche=&idmodule=14&idmodule_temp=&idprod=266&page_html=&idstatic=&idlang=2
like you say ”Besides, it has nothing to do with anything”
of course not:
http://www.faithinallah.org/homosexuality-and-sharia-why-islam-rejects-president-obamas-same-sex-marriage-proposal/
regards
SF
There really is no hope for the electorate of a country that would reelect Obama.
I’ve noticed at Instapundit and various other conservative sites that accept Email the magic words, “Please don’t use my real name” a lot. Usually from people in a Blue area or a Blue job. I just have to wonder about the total number of people who are paranoid about answering pollsters honestly?
maybe OT but you decide::
” “The Americans were constantly trying to supply explanations and excuses for events in the post-revolution Arab states, and simply ignored the problems,” one senior Israeli official said, adding, “In practice the administration’s ability to affect events in the Arab world has decreased immensely.”
The Foreign Ministry official presented the example of Tunisia, which was expected to be moderate despite the rise to power of the Muslim Brotherhood. Several weeks ago Israel’s ambassador to Poland, Zvi Rav-Ner, reported that the Tunisian ambassador to Poland had been called back to Tunisia unexpectedly, ending her posting there. Rav-Ner added that all five women serving as ambassadors of Tunisia in various countries had been recalled at around the same time.
The Israel embassy in Washington was instructed to report the matter to the State Department and determine whether it was aware of the development. Several days late U.S. officials reported that the measure was technical only, involving the replacement of all ambassadors from the previous regime, and had nothing to do with gender discrimination.
The Foreign Ministry conducted its own examination and determined that many male ambassadors from the previous regime had not been recalled. “We knew what was happening, but the Americans preferred to find excuses,” said the senior official. ”
read the whole:
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israeli-foreign-ministry-officials-say-u-s-ignored-arab-radicalization-1.465210
regards
SF
A while back I suggested replacing the State Department with a Facebook page.
When we first intervened in Libya I said we would need to do The Full George. To control the outcome we would need troops on the ground. Libya is an oil state with a small population just across from Italy and next to Egypt. You don’t want it becoming a failed state — Somalia on the Med. But when I said the situation called for The Full George people would laugh. OK, even I would laugh. But Oprah cried. Hell, maybe even Clint Eastwood cried.
The activities of the News media keep reminding me of professional wrestling from back when I was a kid. You were expected to accept what they put before you as real. They’d have a straight laced good guy and a prankster meeting in a grudge match. The prankster would gouge the good guys eyes but the ref would not see because he was standing in the wrong place. You’d go — how can the ref miss that? Then the prankster would toss the good guy out of the ring and pick up a chair and beat him with it while the ref is arguing with an old lady at ring side. And you’d say: How can he not see that? And the announcers would marvel at how the prankster keeps getting away with it.
Occasionally the prankster would win. More often the good guy came out ahead. He’d stand up to it all and then do some flying flip kick and knock the prankster down and pin him. OK, it was all determined in advance, which everyone over the age of eight knew. Still, back then those involved in wrestling had values. They did not want to show the pranksters profiting from cheating. I guess that is the difference between wrestlers back then and Journalist today. Now it is the journalists whacking the good guy with the chair while screaming that he deserves it. That way the prankster they favor can keep his dignity (they do this because he is their prankster). They marvel for our benefit that their prankster gets away with it — though it is they who’ve been getting away with it.
Another difference: if the arena caught fire the wrestlers would help people get out. Our journalist want to lock the doors.
Of course not everyone in the news media is that way. They are the reporters. They are a dying breed. For the most part we’re stuck with journalists.
The smaller problem is that the Obama Administration may have been supplied accurate intelligence by either the CIA or the State Dept. own intelligence bureau. What they knew and when the knew it, is subborned by “we don’t care and we don’t have to”, because they know things, see?
All his life, Obama has been told how smart he was, and because of his race and other factors, a lot of doors were held open (did he apply to college as a foreign national?). He moved from nothing to nothing, yet seemed to get promoted for …..nothing. And now the professionals in the government, regardless of what their political beliefs, are being poorly used by an incompetent executive, who “knows things”, yeah. No consequences to disposing Qaddafy, the Duck of Death? In that whole chain, noose or necklace of countries, not a one has any historical or cultural touch with democracy. They aren’t ready for it, and would probably reject it when it comes. One man, one vote, one time is the expected outcome. It is the ideological orientation of Obama, Jarrett, Clinton and the rest of their Regime that refuses to recognize that the world is not quite jiggy with all the orations of Barack Obama.
The much larger problem is the total disconnect more Americans have with events swirling about them, with the helpless notion that “nothing I think, do or say makes any difference”. Hence the voter disconnect “they are all alike”. It’s a design failure of the Fourth Estate in conveying any sort of objective truths, or “public intelligence” that has disarmed much of the populace. No one knows if what they are told has any measure of truth in it. The latest polls published have the deep smell of untruth as the weighting assigned to one party’s side does not seem to be connected to real world facts.
But the election hangs in the balance, when people think “there is no difference”, feeding their already advanced apathy.
No, there is a difference. Yes, any outcome will be disappointing to some degree. But the apathetic belief that “nothing we say or do makes any difference” is the road to the dictatorship of velvet ropes. It will be comfortable, but the people will surrender their soveriegnty for a handfull of something that seems important at the moment (free cell phones, free birth control, “free” medical care, low interest rate loans for college or your house, whatever you want, we will conjure it up).
That’s where we are going. If Romney/Ryan displace the Obama Regime, it will require a much longer slog by many more citizens to reverse the long term cultural corrosion and the dissolution of those “mystic cords” that once bound us up with some common beliefs.
Everything around Wall Street got locked down yesterday and now security is tight as a drum. Subway entrances are closed, barricades up, cops everywhere. I am sure the optics of people burning flags in cairo and in new york are not giong to be good for obama.
4. Ignominious
The Final Epitaph
How about Jefferson Davis’ epitaph for the Confederacy;
” Died of a theory”
I think the second shoe is about to drop. Thanks to the inattention and feckless lack of preparation by this administration, the US military and intelligence agencies are all reacting and in turmoil. People are being pulled out of their normal jobs and being rushed about hither and thither urgently and with little forethought. When they panic, their first reaction is “throw some bodies at it NOW!” “How many people are working on this!?!?”
We are getting sucked out of position. Intelligence is throwing every one at the embassy threats internationally, FAST is being deployed, the Navy is concentrating in the Persian Gulf for planned (and announced) excercises, China & Japan are distracting us in the Pacific. Domestically, we have lots of bomb threats suddenly (I think this is a new phonmena?), and the domestic intelligence agencies are chasing those crimes.
Could this all be a distraction to make us ignore something in Europe or East Asia that is headed to the US? I do not know. Hopefully this is the best Al qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood can do. But I am afraid Iran or another state actor may be helping and they are planning something to hit the “Great Satan” or one one of its normal allies, and everything so far was misdirection. We should know by next Friday?
Five carrier battle groups plus ships from 25 nations headed to Persian Gulf and eastern Med per UK Telegraph
I guess they forgot the old post-Soviet Russian joke:
Q: “what’s worse than Communism?”
A: “what comes after Communism.”
All well, it’s not a great joke anyway, now that no one really believes in the progressive historical dialectcic.
“As an American, I hereby denounce my God-given, I mean Allah-given, freedom of speech. I condemn the video that so greatly offended you. Please do not believe that it reflects the beliefs of all Americans. You see, we’ve undergone quite the transformation over the last several decades, and many of us are in fact spineless cowards who will make any concession to avoid conflict with others. The filmmaker should have known how offended you would be, and how you would respond. No, your violent response in no way proves the filmmaker’s point that Islam is violent, that is just crazy talk from hateful racist xenophobic Islamophobes who don’t understand how peaceful your religion can be. But many of us Americans are quite enlightened. We understand that Islam is a Religion of Peace (TM) as long as we do our part—our part consisting of denying our right to speak freely, refusing to associate Islam with violence motivated by Islam, insisting that the Koran (or Qu’ran) doesn’t really advocate violent jihad, allowing mass immigration of Muslims into our communities and then compromising our values to accommodate them, and really whatever else you demand.
But the burden must be shared, if we are to get along in a mutually respectful manner. We insist that, in return for the above, you don’t kill us. We may even be willing to negotiate some sort of tax that we pay to offset this burden. We’d prefer not to be raped, but we understand that if we dress in a provocative manner, we were probably asking for it. And of course, this applies to all of us; men, women, children (boys and girls). And even farm animals. We don’t want to be raped, but if you can’t help yourselves, you can’t. And, after all, Mohammed, peace be upon him, did consummate his marriage with a child when she was nine. Some Americans find this offensive, but they don’t understand. He married her when she was seven, so he showed incredible restraint by waiting two years. But I digress.
Anyway, we really must put our foot down on this not killing us demand. You can even have a title for us, and the condition under which we will live. Off the top of my head, I’m thinking dhimmitude. Not really sure where I got the word from, but it sounds good to me. Oh, and you four would probably be lonely, so you can bring along the other Muslims with you. I think under the arrangement I’ve offered, they could be quite happy, too.”
Bell Curve: that is outstanding. Mind if I pass it on? attributed to bell curve, of course!
Ignominious @ 7 said:
“.. if the “Honey Boo Boos” are anything like what the MSM has been telling me for all these years, then they much be the worst sort of white, knuckledragging racist trailer-trash. Then I guess, in this case, they’ll all vote against Obama, and the election will tip to Romney.”
First: The MSM tells the truth only if it advances their political narrative.
Second: Honey Boo Boo will always vote for free government cheese. Demagogues like Obama will always do well with Honey Boo Boo because they promise free government cheese. If democracy fails, it will be because of Honey Boo Boo.
I was starting to think that Romney was going to win this thing. But now I think obunghole will win it. Too many anti American ppl in this country for it to turn otherwise. Too bad, it used to be a nice place to live.
The western countries are just running around in all directions at once like a Mexican fire drill. As rd @35 said everyone is reacting and agencies are in turmoil.
Whatever happened to the art of building boxes? It’s how you manoeuvre bureaucrats and their agencies into a behavioural box which restricts them to a few actions that you can predict and that you know how to counter. I think the same principles apply to foreign policy and could have been applied to the Middle East. I think the foreign policy boxes could have been built from shows of force, having sketchy countries competing for favours (that may be withdrawn at any time) in return for concrete advantages to the U.S., scuttling and/or stepping on nutball actions like that non-aligned conference recently held in Iran.
Maybe I’m wrong, but building behavioural boxes around functionaries has worked for me in the past. In foreign policy it would be a full time occupation but isn’t that what diplomats, armed forces, the White House and Congress are there for?
It is too late now for the short term but why isn’t there any discussion on how to build and maintain these international behavioural boxes?
42 @stevesmith
The chaos is intentional. Rahm Emanuel has made two significant statements that bear this conclusion out.
Today some Salafists (mainly Egyptians, syrians, Tunisians) wanted to manifest in front of the american Ambassy in Paris, They were promptly stopped by the police.
150 have been taken to the police station, the head of the muslim cult ask the muslims to not follow these Salafists
http://www.francetvinfo.fr/film-anti-islam-une-centaine-d-interpellations-a-paris-lors-d-une-manifestation-pres-de-l-ambassade-americaine_141599.html
The best explanation of what’s going on is that the problems in the moslem street are not so much directed at the US but at the places where they reside. There is a power struggle going on there.
Symmetrically, Obama reaction to what’s going on is not so much directed at the Moslems but at obtaining election in the General Nov 4
41. Ashen
I’ve been flip-flopin’. In April when It was obvious that Mitt had grabbed the brass ring, I said; “They did it again, The GOP nominated the only dude in America that could lose to Obama”. Romney got it because of a push down effort from the top. Then as the summer dragged on and the economy slowly slid under the waves I thought; “Maybe this Mitt fellow is pretty slick. Wait for the Won to cut his own throat and step over the body”. Well the trend line is moving the wrong way. it went from the opponents being a few points ahead on one day , a few points behind on the next to mitt being down 3 to 5. Within the Margin of error, which is why the pros refuse to guess at it.
I see either one of them blowing a debate (Reagan-Carter) or the MDM going whole hog trying to get Obama out. I think they (MDM) want to buy time. Their bomb must be nearly ready to test. If Romney wins and the test a bomb on the 17th of January, they will get away with it. if Israel doesn’t drop a bucket of sunshine on them. Israel has enough nukes to pretty much put an end to Iran. They can nuke EVERY major city and kill 20% of the Iranian population. Make Iran a radioactive wasteland for the next 2 generations. Not sure what anybody would do then. A 50 ton black swan with a 200 meter wingspan.
On a positive note, Obama has his voters in hand. Morris says 80% of last minute voters go for the challenger. If that proves out, Romney gets the popular vote. EV’s will be tougher. Ohio, PA and FL are key. 2 out of that 3 wins.
That is what makes the US election so interesting. It is not just getting the vote but where that vote is.
Of course the pollsters could all be out to lunch. I have read that they are using ’08 as a base and if they use ’10 itt is ahead by double digits. We will see. I would really love to watch Wolf Spitzer going ” I can’t believe the numbers are this far off.” That is what he was saying in ’10 as the Donks died like flies.
Rule 308; No mercy asked, none given
PS. Palin or Santorium would be ahead by double digits now, Maybe Perry too. How far behind would Romney be without Paul?
subotai @ 26: “or he already knows what a Revolution entails, and is busy bringing it to us.”
Yes.
I think he is being intentionally provocative, and he thinks he can win in a rebellion, because he is Commander in Chief of very powerful forces. He has gone to great lengths (for him) to install loyal people @ O-9 and O-10 – being a hierarchically inclined sort, this must give him great confidence.
Of course, the counterforce, if there is one, will be experienced O-5 through O-7, who have suffered stripes for the faith and who cannot possibly be happy about what is about to go down.
The principal actors that will move the American Crisis on to its next stages are not in the MIddle East, although events there have the potential to get things going. They are right here, in the White House and in DOD.
Talk about unintended consequences!
I’m voting for Romney. This is why, and it is the only reason why: Romney is NOT Obama.
I have NO LOVE for the GOP that they foisted Romney on me. And OH YES they did. I live in Virginia whose primary, for the first time in my lifetime, actually mattered this cycle. And the state GOP intentionally disallowed everybody from the ballot except Mittens and Ron Paul. They fixed the outcome.
But what am I gonna do? They got me by the balls. I WILL NOT vote for Obama under any circumstances. I’m left with Romney, who is even less inspiring than John McCain – a feat I didn’t think possible.
I suspect I’m not alone in my thinking and the polls reflect that. Mitt Romney is probably the very worst candidate the GOP could have possibly put up.
And the GOP elite muscled him in.
I would describe my support for him as “tepid”. I would not vote for him under any circumstance but this one: his opponent is Obama.
I do hope he wins, and I pray to God that he surprises my low expectations should he in fact pull it off.
The one and only reason to vote for Mittens that I hold up to my friends and family is this: he is not Obama. That is weaksauce. But that is, essentially, the whole game this time.
“Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”
- Mao Tse-tung
To many people vote. The vote is a means to power. The right to vote is like the right to keep and bear arms. You do not give guns to unsupervised children or lunatics.
@ 25. Subotai Bahadur
I do not think he *does* understand what a revolution entails and that is why his actions are bringing it on. None on the left understands the consequences of phony outrage, pumped up “concern” and all the rest of the insufferable twaddle the left thinks is so cool, so sixties, so against the “man”.
He thinks others will roll over if he insists. That is his personal reality. He does not understand that those who wafted him upwards rolled over for him because they were trying to show how enlightened they were not because they thought he was right or clever. He does not understand that there are millions who have no intention of rolling over anymore.
And those deaths? Just an unfortunate result of otherwise sound policy. Nobody who hates himself as this person does, feels joy over anything.
Really it is very bad here in America, everything is falling apart, I don’t expect it to get any better if Romney is elected, the fix required will take a utter destruction of three quarters of the US Gov and some states nearly the same, it just won’t happen in a manageable and planed event… America is entering into its Darkest Hour (ever)! The next few weeks will determine how Dark it will get, this election will determine how bad our trek thru the “Valley of Death” will start, not if it starts.
#39 beverly,
Note the quotes, feel free to pass on, but don’t attribute to Bell Curve.
As Rumsfeld said, you goto war with the army you’ve got. Right now that is Romney.
Everything is a fog now, deliberately so on the part of Obama and the media. The advantage of chaos though is that those who have a plan can execute it and not panic.
Everyone should hold off on the despair and catastrophizing, there will be plenty of time for that if Romney looses.
So send money to the Romney campaign and work to get him elected.
re: rd 35..It felt odd to read your post, it so echos what I’m feeling. The concentration of our ships off the Straits is to me, not a good idea..We would be vunerable, terribly so, grouped that way..It brings back thoughts of Pearl Harbor…Rosh Hoshanon is starting, Yom Kippur is the 25th..I trust in the Lord, however, we have done much to bring down his wrath…
I am at the bottom of the thread so I will keep my observations short.
1. The last picture in Richards post tells the whole story. It’s a story of the right to free speech be trumped by government intimidation at the highest levels (The 1st Amendment is being destroyed). 0bama should step down. 0bama’s constant, bowing, boot-licking, and appeasing caused this mess. 0bama cannot defend our constitution let alone our embassies (and ambassadors). He is skating on the thin ice of impeachment.
http://pjmedia.com/rogerkimball/2012/09/15/the-picture-that-should-cost-obama-his-job/
2. 0bama doesn’t have the backbone to run a war. He doesn’t even have the backbone or the brains to run a revolution in Libya. Terrorists are out-smarting him at very turn. 0bama is a loose cannon on the deck pointed at the ship’s crew.
3. The poor slob who was hauled away in the night probably was Arab. He may have been helping the government in a “honey pot” scheme to draw terrorists out of the woodwork. The scheme worked too well. 0bama has screwed the pooch. Now, 0bama has to blame someone.
https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/printthread.php?t=10667&pp=10&page=3
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/meanwhile-beijing-respect-motherland-we-must-go-war-japan
If I’m a Chinese General right now, I am a thinkin – Hey – why not?
It’s not as if President Looney Tunes -Traitor will lift a finger to help Japan. Great time to expand your Imperial Empire all you empire builders out there.
19. Don51
We live in a swing state, so we’ve been bombarded with polling calls since the first of the year. We quickly learned to let unrecognized phone numbers go to VM. Friends and family are doing the same. The polling callers have our names, addresses and more, but quelle surprise, we don’t trust them. As a result, the pollsters and pundits are on the receiving end of a intense, deliberate information blackout.
Our motto: Shut up now. Show up on Nov 6.
Our hope: On Nov 7, the headlines read, “Romney Wins in Unexpected Landslide”
29. toadold
To answer your question, whether voters are paranoid. Yes, we are and rightly so. (See above.)
Final note. Four more years of Obama and we’ll all be referring to BO’s first term as “the good years.”
Just an observation …
Wretchard, about a month or two ago you seemed to be in full sarcasm mode. Every post in a long run of posts dripped with it. Now, the past week or two, I’m seeing, I think … anger. I mean a kind of cold fury. Which I don’t believe I have seen from you in the 8-ish years I’ve been reading this blog.
I say this as neither criticism nor commendation, just what comes across cybserspace to me. Although, since I have been reading Belmont Club for lo these many years, and I would say I have come to think of you as the most even-tempered and patient of guys, if I am correctly picking up on your mood, I find myself muttering, “If they’ve got *Wretchard* seething ….”
T2 @ 55:
Obama is a loose cannon on the deck pointed at the ship’s crew.
+1000000.
Unfit for the office.
Unfit for command.
God help us. And by “us” I don’t mean just America. I mean humanity. An entire generation of little kids, young people who have barely had a chance to live their lives, a lot of ordinary people who neither seek nor do harm to others, are living in places where they are hostages to the whims of madmen and the incompetence of damn fools. The dark vortex that is approaching is going to make no distinction between the madman and the child, between the foolish and the wise.
Batten down the hatches, friends. Here we go.
Here’s the psychopathy checklist stoicheion links to.
I’d say O-man scores pretty high except for sex/relationships, and that may be because he’s gay, and like so much else, we just don’t know.
The twenty traits assessed by the PCL-R score are:
* glib and superficial charm
* grandiose (exaggeratedly high) estimation of self
* need for stimulation
* pathological lying
* cunning and manipulativeness
* lack of remorse or guilt
* shallow affect (superficial emotional responsiveness)
* callousness and lack of empathy
* parasitic lifestyle
* poor behavioral controls
* sexual promiscuity
* early behavior problems
* lack of realistic long-term goals
* impulsivity
* irresponsibility
* failure to accept responsibility for own actions
* many short-term marital relationships
* juvenile delinquency
* revocation of conditional release
* criminal versatility
Obama can’t surf
Eggplant@40: “If democracy fails, it will be because of Honey Boo Boo.”
You’re probably right about that, Eggplant.
Reading other than American source reports it was obvious that there was creditable action in Libya, supposedly even one of the Dead Americans predicted his own fate the day before, reporting that one of their guards was taking pictures of their safe house. Al Qaida has gotten a Intelligence victory and a super much needed PR victory, which of course is why the 0bama Admin is desperately trying to pin this on a barely viewed movie to pull the scales over the American public eyes (if America had any real Journalist they would be finding out just how many of those 16,000+ viewing of the movie were even an ME IP) Now since yesterday reports of more Western Military ships moving into the Straits of Hormuz for the pending “Israel” strike or maybe what they are doing is staging so Iran doesn’t do something stupid like blocking the Straights to further the Chaos in the ME and Plunge the West into the Depression we are already pivoting on? Massive shows of deception are being waged for the Western World and its coming from the Western Governments!
Bogie Wheel #58
You wrote:
God help us. And by “us” I don’t mean just America. I mean humanity. An entire generation of little kids, young people who have barely had a chance to live their lives, a lot of ordinary people who neither seek nor do harm to others, are living in places where they are hostages to the whims of madmen and the incompetence of damn fools. The dark vortex that is approaching is going to make no distinction between the madman and the child, between the foolish and the wise.
That is very well phrased.
And I, too, have noticed the change in Wretchard’s tone recently. He has always seemed to me to be able to see more deeply in what’s going on than ordinary folk like myself, and it worries me that he seems angry.
Jamie Irons
The problem with any US consulate abroad is that they are ill-suited and understaffed to counter the blaring message that emanates from the US in the form of TV. All TV program is anti-male, militantly homosexual, and showcases wonder women who can seduce an entire nation of men and reduce them to drooling, crawling and whimpering saps. Those same women can fly around by posing sexy swan like, do back flips, say something sassy, have sex with thirteen year olds, and take out legions of men with one 90 pounds of fury snap kick to the groin. This is counterbalanced by the kill-a-cop, n!gga-h0 shouted rhymes.
Can an administration such as this placate the fears of the streets of the Middle East that a rough lesbian world where foul-mouthed attorney generals sexually berate their inferior minions? These people have nothing but their pride and the US insults that in it every decree.
Does anything Hillary say set them at ease? I wouldn’t count on it. They have seen the once great united states turned into an estrogen soaked, chick-fest where being a male is openly denigrated and medically prescribed against. They hate us and I don’t blame them. They may be smarter than we give them credit.
am @ 63: They hate us and I don’t blame them.
I’ll go this far, our putting Hillary-clones out in diplomatic positions to Arab countries, guarantees that their ESTABLISHMENTS will not take us seriously. Susan Rice, US ambassadress to the United Nations, was on ABC Stephanopolouza (with Jake Tapper) this morning, spouting errant nonsense in a stumbling manner (Tapper challenged her here and there, but she barely blinked). Not even our best Western allies can take that seriously. Has Ms. Rice never even *seen* career diplomats at work? Does she utterly reject their conventions and practices, and think that sophomoric college-dorm discussion is an improvement, and blatant lies aren’t always seen as such immediately?
Ms. Rice came across as intelligent, serious, and totally unprepared for anything other than impromptu repetitions of dogmatic nonsense. IOW, she was the spitting image of Obambus.
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Oh btw the show also had Gen. Weasley Clark (ret.) on the panel, and his contribution was to deny all problems and declare this the best of all possible worlds or something like that. I’ll tell ya, I’d sure like to see some flag officer, active or retired, who seems to make sense on much of anything. Shudder.
” … and it worries me that he seems angry.”
Oh, really?
I say: ”Hell, yes!!” Given the wreckage at home and abroad I have trouble understanding how someone could not be angry. I’d be worried if he weren’t angry; perhaps I didn’t understand your comment but if you’re not angry I have to wonder what it would take to make you so.
“They hate us and I don’t blame them.” It only matters because they don’t fear us.
Make them fear us. Kill 30 or 40 million tomorrow afternoon and they will still hate us but they will keep that opinion to themselves. Nuke Mecca, Tehran, Cairo and Islamabad. For Starts.
You don’t pet rabid dogs, you don’t waste time trying to teach them to fetch. You shoot them and toss the body in the trash. The best thing about nukes is you don’t have a lot of bodies to clean up.
Don’t you folks realize that our dear leader has “strongly condemned” this violence? If that doesn’t do the trick, he’ll respond with overwhelming force and condemn it a second time.
Bogie #58, Jamie Irons #62, Gordon #65: Wretchard’s tone strikes me, too, as different. I have read his words with interest, profit and enjoyment for years; and I sense a change. I see W as a very serious man with a tragic vision of the world, where irony, courage and simple decency are cardinal virtues. Emphasis on irony: his dry wit is a tonic and comfort to me. And I’ve seen it grow ever more dry, a bright anger shine through. That scares me.
When a soul as balanced and perspicacious as W gets this upset, you know that existential stuff is headed for the spinning blades.
Stay safe, all.
Understood Stoic. I always thought that Operation Iraqi Freedom was the perfect opportunity to let it be known, that if you F with us, really really want us respond, that we would spend unimaginable amounts of blood and treasure and come and break things and kill people, and grab your tyrant by the collar and drag him out into the street for a little long arm of Uncle Sam street justice. What we get from the mommy-state Dems is a repudiation of daddies spanking poor babies belligerent tantrums and a promise of trillion dollar molly coddling finalized with, we’re outta here, we are not going to ask for any terms or conditions, really we are just here to embarrass the Republicans. Off to nation build in Afghanistan. Sayonara.
But seriously, we couldn’t get the demoncrats behind us on OIF, let alone GOP metrosexuals. Scorched earth policy? Dream on. We will never win a war abroad when the war is here in the US fighting for the hearts and minds of our children who are POW’s held hostage in the long march through the institutions. Our enemies know that we are weak and the only way that this can be remedied is to destroy all conservative speech and to have a unified progressive speech code. Those who control information in the short term AND the long term will be the victors.
TWANLOC are winning.
ps – the spam censors are getting a little more stringent. It is a matter of time before all conservative memes and key words are loaded into it. Information is the battle space and words are its agents.
66. stoicheion
Hitler and Stalin already tried your recommendation for indiscriminate mass extermination of people they didn’t like. More of a hindrance than a help I’m thinking.
65. Gordon
100% correct. We should all be very angry at the clever Western “bien pensant” who are destroying our very fine house and our civilized way of life, aiding and abetting those who hate us and spoiling the future for our children and grand children. Ironically these Western smart-Alecks are also spoiling the future for the impoverished barbarians who want to bring us down. Now that’s an unintended consequence!
As to the terminal depression that is lurking about recent threads; it’s hard to keep a human down. Ask the Famine Irish, the Clearance Scots, the Railroad and Mining indentured Chinese, the Wandering Jews and all those British convicts exported to Australia.
#70
Let me help with the response you can expect:
“Idiot. I do not believe in ad hominem but since you started it…blah, blah”
Moi aussi! I too have noticed the evolution in Wretchard’s tone. It may be because Wretchard, more than most of us, recognizes how unnecessary all of this is. Unfortunately, we are all — us as well as the Leftists — sitting on the branch that those Leftists are busily sawing off.
Wretchard has lived through (and help foment) one revolution already. Like the French in 1939, it is understandable that former revolutionaries don’t want to have to live through that again. But there is a new generation now, and they will have to learn for themselves.
One election in November is not going to change the course that we unwittingly chose back in the 1960s. As Chris Rea sang:
On your journey ‘cross the wilderness
From the desert to the well
You have strayed onto
the Motorway to Hell’.
Short-term pessimism, long-term optimism. This too shall pass. Let’s do what little we each can to keep the flame alight during the coming stormy blasts.
s @ 66: Nuke Mecca, Tehran, Cairo and Islamabad. For Starts.
Not that that wouldn’t qualify as improving the land values significantly, but what gripes me is that we miss some much smaller targets that might make it unnecessary to resort to such large ones. We missed doing this for the city of Fallujah, and the port areas of Mogadishu, at the appropriate timely moments, and wouldn’t even have needed nukes, just a couple of B-52s full of cheap legacy iron bombs.
Your good deeds all catch up with you eventually.
Cowboy @ 48: “Mitt Romney is probably the very worst candidate the GOP could have possibly put up. And the GOP elite muscled him in.”
Sure they did. And you’re going to vote for him. If he loses, the blame will go to the hardline conservatives who wouldn’t play ball just this once when the stakes were so high. And if he wins, the refrain will be “See? Everything works out fine when you just let us do the thinking.” So conservatism loses again, maybe for the last time. America’s gotten to that stage in online solitaire games when the message flashes up: “There are no more possible moves.”
Josh @ 73. For starts. In Egypt we blow the dam. After the wall of water passes, we send in the gunships to polish off the survivors.
At the donut shop this morning we debated on carpet bombing vs nukes. In the end a compromise was reached. Carpet bomb with nukes. That would mean building more nukes, which is expensive. But when you really care, no expense is too great.
Josh, I worry about you bud. Arm yourself. Get a decent 12 gauge pump. Winchester and Remington make the best. Ithaca is iffy and stay away from anything that says Savage. Get #4 or #6 birdshot for indoors ( the #6 will not go through gypsum board at more the 6 feet). The #6 is also good for real small birds and such. Rats and tree rats. #6 is hard to find around here. In that case go with the #4 birdshot.
They make a #4 buck, which what the marines use as a combat load but until you learn the ropes stick with 00 buck for people. Go to a gun show and see if you can find some buck and ball. I like the 3 buck 1 ball loads but you can find 4+1. Your milage may vary. You can miss with a shotgun but as long as you have a good sight picture you WILL hit something. Then there is the reload while fighting that makes the shotgun a favorite weapon for trench work. Keep a shoulder bag full of shells and if you shoot 2, load 2.
Wear a red armband of sorts on your left Arm. That MIGHT help with the Army. Probably not since if the Army gets involved, they will be lighting us up from 3Km’s away in the dark. You find out they are there when your leg gets blown off by a 30MM HE round.
Of course, with 40 million deer hunters after them, their chance of getting to their Apache isn’t real good. On a wide open airport the .308 with a 9X scope has the edge on a .223 with a 3X scope.
Hunting season starts in November. The weekend after the election, as fate would have it.
Rule 308; No mercy asked, none given.
Gordon -
Not to put words in Jamie’s mouth (or in Wretchard’s, either) — but in a general sense …
What people feel and what they allow themselves to express are not necessarily the same thing. Certain temperaments (particularly introverts) tend to play their cards close to the vest. Restraint. Stiff upper lip and all that. It’s neither inherently superior nor inferior to the “wear it on their sleeve” type. Just different. And the NT combination is not merely introverted but also analytical … good luck getting those people to pop off. They are usu too busy observing & processing to expend energy on emoting.
Someone noted on a previous thread how foolish & misguided our Foggy Bottom & journo types are in projecting their own Western/liberal/secular mindset onto everyday Third Worlders, whose frames of reference & dispositions are staggeringly alien to American (and virtually all Western) culture.
Projection is a human tendency, true, but I would say the tendency gets amplified, and the consequences of the mistaken approach tend to be all the more grievous, when the person doing the projecting grips the levers of power, whether political, economic, or cultural.
And so we are back to Hayek’s knowledge problem. How do “they” know what “we” are thinking? Feeling? “They” only know what that is if “we” speak & act those thoughts & feelings in terms that “they” recognize. But what if “they” are incapable of understanding “our” “language”?
To use but one example: Peace through strength. Jacksonian Americans do not need to have it explained to them why someone would arm themselves defensively; nor do Jacksonians need to have explained the difference between a peacekeeper and a warmonger; between preparedness and desperation; between “blind trust” and “trust but verify” when it comes to human nature. Jacksonian Americans don’t need any of this explained because they understand it already. It is the non-Jacksonians, the “bien pensants” (to use stevesmith’s term) who truly no hablan the language here, and who are doubly crippled because they not only don’t understand how Jacksonians think but they think they do understand, whereas they are merely projecting their own mentality onto the “bitter clingers.”
I don’t expect the bobbleheads in the media to understand how I think or feel. Nor pollsters. Nor even the people I work with whom I know to be liberals. I’m comfortable doing what I do & being who I am without the need to advertise it like a peacock. I don’t look to the herd for my identity. Social status never having been very important to me to begin with, I don’t seek to validate it by “proving” my “worthiness” with conformity (political or otherwise).
The depth of my anger at what is being done to my country (and has been in process for longer than I have been alive, BTW) is pretty much immeasurable. And so is the extent of my resolve. Since I know I am not alone, multiply this by millions. By tens of millions. The bien pensants no hablan, aren’t listening, don’t care, and think they know everything anyway.
I say … good.
“Be extremely subtle even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent’s fate.” – Sun Tzu
I changed my mind.
I’m very malleable!
Here’s the link I couldn’t post earlier:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9545597/Armada-of-British-naval-power-massing-in-the-Gulf-as-Israel-prepares-an-Iran-strike.html
The more the MO(hammed)RONS in the Middle East kill each other, the less there will be to try to kill us………
Go for it…. there’s a passel of virgins waiting for you!!!