The Politico reports its sources indicate that President Obama will up the ante if Scott Brown wins the Massachusetts Senate seat. There will be no retreat, no watering down of the agenda.
President Barack Obama plans a combative response if, as White House aides fear, Democrats lose Tuesday’s special Senate election in Massachusetts, close advisers say.
“This is not a moment that causes the president or anybody who works for him to express any doubt,” a senior administration official said. “It more reinforces the conviction to fight hard.” …
Advertisement“The response will not be to do incremental things and try to salvage a few seats in the fall,” a presidential adviser said. “The best political route also happens to be the boldest rhetorical route, which is to go out and fight and let the chips fall where they may. We can say, ‘At least we fought for these things, and the Republicans said no.’”
Whatever words Obama chooses, however, will have trouble masking the substantive reality: A Massachusetts embarrassment would strongly increase the pressure Obama was already facing to retreat or slow down the “big bang” agenda he laid out a year ago.
The strategy will be a militant campaign to blame all future problems on the past administration by casting the Republicans as the architects of disaster and the protectors of the banking industry: wreckers and saboteurs standing in the way of Hope.
White House senior adviser David Axelrod told reporters that Democrats will not allow the midterm elections to become “a referendum on this administration” but, instead, will force Republicans to defend the role they have played in the economic crisis.
And press secretary Robert Gibbs said a key theme of 2010 will be asking voters “whether the people they have in Washington are on the side of protecting the big banks, whether they’re on the side of protecting the big oil companies, whether they’re on the side of protecting insurance companies or whether they’re on the people’s side.”
Democrats looking for shards of hope in a grim week say they take some consolation in having their political straits exposed early in the midterm election year, in contrast to their much later wake-up call before the Republican revolution of 1994.
A couple of days ago I wrote that the President had a tendency to raise the stakes whenever he was losing. It was always all or nothing. And now if nothing, then his tendency will be to put the blame on the opposition.
But the Politico’s sources also suggested that Obama’s true intent was to begin a defense-in-depth by bogging the Republicans down in “bipartisanship” maneuvers.
The narrower majority will force more White House engagement with Republicans, which could actually help restore a bit of the post-partisan image that was a fundamental ingredient of his appeal to voters.
“Now everything that gets done in the Senate will have the imprimatur of bipartisanship,” another administration official said. “The benefits of that will accrue to the president and the Democratic Senate. It adds to the pressure on Republicans to participate in the process in a meaningful way, which so far they have refused to do.”
Governance will probably be a low priority in the coming year. The fundamental theme of 2010 will be a struggle for power. If it is already evident that unemployment numbers are not going to decrease and that the New Year will be more challenging than 2009 then the strategy of pushing the Promised Land into a future where Republicans have been eliminated from the scene is a viable one. It is also a semi-revolutionary one.
Both political camps are predicating progress on the demise of their opposition. The polarization which began in early 2009 has increased rather than diminished with time and has reached the point where two rival and possibly mutually exclusive political agendas are emerging. If so Massachusetts is not the last, but the first in a series of meeting engagements between two rival factions.
My own sense is that fundamental issues are now at stake. I wrote two days ago that:
What’s really interesting is whether the current political crisis will lead to a recovery of the center or whether it simply presages wilder maneuvers. One thing to watch, I think, is what happens internally to both political parties. I think both parties are carrying dysfunctional mindsets which came into existence in eras long gone by. Can the Democratic party “reform” itself? The shadow of 1968 is still like a monkey on its back. Can the Republican party do likewise in its own way, and thus can politics realign itself in such a way that a new stability based on sensible and productive policies can emerge?
One thing I am convinced of is that Barack Obama is not the man to do it. His ideas are old in the worst of ways; not as in validated by long weathering but as in repeatedly rejected by history. But they are all he has. And the really scary thing about his aloofness and indifference is that he may really live in a place that you can’t go.
So my guess is that while he has no money and no prospect of getting any, the President knows only one move: double down again.
It will be interesting.
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I’m praying that the support for Scott Brown will be so emphatic as to put the fear of GOD into the lying bastards busy betraying this country.
I’m afraid it’s not going to be easy or bloodless. There are too many in Federal and State judiciaries, legislatures, commissions, and even enforcement officials who have been thoroughly compromised by the traffic in drugs, illegal immigrants, the licensing, inspection, and green-lighting of international trade contracts, shipping, manufacturing, distribution deals, toxic-site status determinations and “clean-up,” et cetera.
Some years ago I heard of a study that pointed out how a number of third-world countries make it impossible for people at the bottom of their cultures to advance their fortunes. The study found that even those countries that allow peasants to purchase land, have a vast network of licensing and permit commissions that govern the possible uses to which land may be put. It can take a lifetime, and undefined numbers and amounts of bribes demanded by corrupt officials, for an individual to get from the initial purchase of a parcel of land, through plan approvals, construction permits, inspections, etc., to a completed factory, office building, apartment building, store.
This is what is happening with the Democrats in control.
If you think their actions have been ugly before, keep in mind that they are not going to give up their power without a vicious fight.
Doubling down is easier when you are playing with Other People’s Money.
The hardest part for the Republicans will be in controlling the urge of prima donnas to strut before the cameras in the name of bipartisanship. Here is a tweet to settle your digestion before bed time;
All the Republicans have to do is remember to Maintain the Objective. If they don’t get distracted and keep articulating basic principles of honest effective economic management and open honest governance then they win. If they get pulled into bidding wars over fantasy policies then they lose.
Says Obama the Black Knight: “Tis but a scratch; I’ve had worse.”
It’s bad enough to be a loser. It’s very unseemly and pitiful to be a loser and be doubling down using the family’s credit card.
One thing that really irritates people about Obama is that he picks winners and losers,e.g., banks that have to pay “fees” and Fannie/Freddie and GMAC that don’t. The fees will be shakedown money and keep the game going.
Maybe the denouement will be Obama delivering the line: “Come back here and take what’s coming to you! I’ll bite your legs off!”
The image that I am getting is that while a lot of Democrats want to moderate their stances
and settle for things that are actually achievable, they are going nowhere.
Their Emperor demands the ultimate sacrifice.
Looks like a banzai charge coming up.
Is it not obvious that the long struggle is nearly over?
Is it not obvious that the triumph of Islam is inevitable?
There is little time left.
Cease provoking the soldiers of Allah (swt).
Cease your blasphemies against Allah (swt) and His Messenger Muhammed (saw).
Cease oppressing Muslims.
Renounce your false religions.
Embrace Islam now and live in peace in submission to the will of Almighty Allah (swt).
Your grandchildren will be Muslim.
Allahu akbar!
TROLL ABATEMENT PROCEDURES NOW ADVISED.
DO NOT REPLY TO THE LIMB OF SATAN
WHO SAYS YOUR DESCENDANTS WILL BELONG
TO LUCIFER.
If Obama were a liberal he would be advancing his agenda in terms of “the possible.” He would give and take with the opposition so as to get the maximum of what he wants while still building national consensus. But he is not a liberal at all. He does not recognize the opposition as “the honorable opposition.”
For him there appears to be no middle. And as I often am reminded, Freud said, “Every exaggeration carries within it the seeds of its own destruction.” But is the Scott Brown election going to be the start of a counter movement or is it the last stand of the opposition that is only going to be crushed by the full force of an Obama offensive.
Sadly, I no longer see any limit on the use of every means Obama and his allies are willing to engage in. SEIU thugs, limitless quasi-bribes to Senators, outright voter fraud, court rulings that ignore fairness and the law for the sake of partisan advancement. I suspect that Congress will ignore its precedents or make ad hoc changes in procedural rules to force passage of their agenda. And I have no faith in the Supreme Court to rule in other than partisan ways.
The comparison to the third world is quite apt. While the courts are still relatively honest and elections still relatively free, the tide must be reversed. In a few more cycles, with a few more Supreme Court changes, the window may close.
By the way, Brown needs to get more than 50% of the vote and win by at least 3% or 30,000 votes in order for the election not to be stolen. As Hugh Hewitt once wrote, “If it’s not close, they can’t cheat.”
wretchard said:
The whole post is …. astute. I have to say I do not want to go where The Won lives. I did in the past. (Reformed far Left-ist) It is an ugly place with no anchoring beliefs, just pragmatic moments. A life built on what is demanded … for the now.
The Left will fight dirty. It may be the depth of the dirty that is their undoing. Civilian Defense Forces, FEMA ‘refugee’ camps, etc. All those things the supposed ‘moderate middle’ chastises us with as being paranoid and reactionary. What if it is true? “Even if you are paranoid it does not men you do not have enemies?”
They will let it all fall to hell and drag it down should their wishes be thwarted. This bunch is really just plain …EVIL.
wretchard, you certainly called the double-down.
The strategy will be a militant campaign to blame the all future problems on the past administration by casting the Republicans as the architects of disaster and the protectors of the banking industry: wreckers and saboteurs standing in the way of Hope.
There are many Republicans who would just walk into that, too.
The Republicans *must* find there way to some affirmative messages. The Lincoln Republicans were technocrats, wanted to put slavery out of business technologically anyhow. How about some more of that in the 21st century?
* Energy independence
* Health care reform without destroying the present system
* Severe new restrictions on the financial industry
* Green jobs in energy, in desalinization
* New aerospace projects – space or civilian
* New military projects – smart weapons, smart soldiers, and last but not least – smart commanders.
…
I’ll have to think about just how the Republicans need to address the budget deficit and national debt. Aggressively and affirmatively, via the economy and markets of course, but NOT just by “letting things improve”, that is not enough politically, and I will argue that these are times that call for a much more active hand to restore markets anyway.
I’m literally betting the farm that things will get worse, perhaps far far worse before they get any better. Obama is toxic, and the poison he’s injecting into the political system will not metabolize easily. The shibboliths and towers on both on the left and right will fall. We’re in for a rocky rough ride.
America may be the only (last?) alembic where the battle between a Soviet Obama statist Euro-style nightmare can be defeated by free people. The Republicans are only slightly less bad, they are adrift. The battle of Middle Earth is upon us, and only one outcome is tolerable for the free people of Earth. Sauron must be defeated.
Looks like a banzai charge coming up.
That poses dangers of its own. A healthy two party system that can settle on an acceptable center is a pretty good formula for stability. If the Democratic Party starts a Banzai, the act of self-destruction will be an inflection point in itself. Because rather than drifting back to the center it could possibly be driven even further left. History has examples of leftist movements in which each successive setback makes it all the more so. They wind up going on their Long March to Yenan like Mao and coming back twice as ferocious as before. In the end they either win it all or lose it all. That would be unhealthy for two-party politics.
As for the Republicans, it’s hard to say what they may turn into in a sharp clash. About all that can be safely said is that if President Obama really embarks on a Banzai charge the variance of the outcomes will increase dramatically. We don’t know what will happen. We only know that things become more unpredictable.
The annoying thing is that when I block the troll I lose my comment box. There is a flaw in the system.
Here is the video link for Other People’s Money since I had no edit before. http://tinyurl.com/bwqwnx
What should we be doing to positively counter the Obama campaign to link the nation’s problems to the Republicans? Attack! We must link the Democrats to all these disasters in the public mind. We need billboards with the slogan These are the people who stole $Trillions$ and 30′ photos of Dodd and Franks and Geithner and Gorelick and the Fannie/Freddie crew. After 2 months of the campaign we add Obama’s image to the rogues gallery.
If we are lucky then the Democrats will split and hive off the extremists. This will get dicey because the black voting bloc has tied itself to the most extreme and irrational elements. It would be better for America if they did not go over the cliff with their exploiters.
Servant of Allah, thank you for your concerns. Please smile for the cameras.
MD, Sauron cannot be defeated unless the ring is destroyed.
LOTM,
which comment box do you lose?
wretchard,
The “Write a Comment” box that I just used at the bottom of the page vanished when I blocked the troll. It was like when a thread is closed but without your statement to that effect. Unblocked the troll and got the box back.
Look forward to comparing this on Safari and Firefox.
Excuse the violation of Godwin’s Law, but reading about Obama doubling down in the face of losing one Senate seat out of 60, and preparing to tear the country apart, makes me think of a certain Austro-German who, as his country went down to defeat in 1945 said that the country and its race SHOULD BE destroyed as they had proven themselves weaker than their enemies.
Literally, first thought that popped into my head.
The first video of the last post really amazed me. Chris Matthews was owning up to the unpopularity of health care and other Obama agenda items, but not Obama who remains popular.
No losing this seat will not deter Obama. In fact it will crank up the bribery and vote buying in the Senate. The one thing a lot on the hard left have convinced themselves of, is the ’94 GOP takeover was due to the Dems not delivering on heatlhcare and I believe a lot of them really do believe that. I think that hogwash (in fact the possibility of delivering on healthcare I believe played a huge role), but in one sense Obama’s gambit is smart.
It will take major discipline on the part of the senate republicans to keep saying no.
He will not get a chance in 2011 to pass healthcare. Quite simply they see it as now or never. Or at least not until the Dems regain the Whitehouse and large legislative majorities.
Sauron cannot be defeated unless the ring is destroyed.
He isn’t Sauron. He’s the Balrog!
YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!!
I note how the Politico piece says that Coakley’s defeat is “potentially debilitating” to the Democratic Party.
This is a party that would still control the Executive Branch, have 59 votes in the Senate (counting Sanders and Lieberman) and a 70+ vote majority in the House of Representatives.
Debilitated? Compared to what? Only if the standard is an agenda that requires landslide majorities. Ahhh…
No losing this seat will not deter Obama. In fact it will crank up the bribery and vote buying in the Senate. The one thing a lot on the hard left have convinced themselves of, is the ‘94 GOP takeover was due to the Dems not delivering on heatlhcare and I believe a lot of them really do believe that. I think that hogwash (in fact the possibility of delivering on healthcare I believe played a huge role), but in one sense Obama’s gambit is smart.
By some cruel quirk of fate, Obama seized the controls a little too late. In 1990 there was enough money and international stability in the wake of the Cold War victory to “stuff their mouths with gold” in the memorable phrase of Lord Bevan, the creator of the National Health Service once said. Clinton could have done it but missed his chance.
Now Obama is going to try and succeed where Clinton failed but without the money; he will have to raise taxes for his nationalization of the health industry with the economy in shambles and the international scene uncertain. He has so little money, in fact, that he doesn’t have the resources for a prolonged campaign. If Coakley proved anything, it is that he is weakening by the day. Delay doesn’t favor Obama. But he will not yield his ambition. So he will go for the maximum demands bare-headed — what a commenter prevously called a banzai charge.
To me the whole problem comes to this: if they’re going to bet the farm, how far are they willing to go to win? And secondly, it is probable that some economic development or international eventuality will take a hand in events. The Scott Brown event itself is a perfect example of the unforeseen event; the emergent phenomenon, the unanticipated game changer.
Like I said, the political road ahead will be characterized by high variance. If President Obama ups the stakes we’ll have that amazing phenomenon: the high stakes poker game where no one can afford to lose. All those without the stomach for it will be edging for the saloon door.
Obama may wave his sword over his head and yell charge, but the question is will anybody follow him?
Massachusetts is just the latest disaster for him. I imagine a lot of Democrats are beginning to view him as more of an anchor than a life preserver.
If Scott Brown wins tomorrow and Obama is able to bribe Voinovich or some other congress-critter to pass health care “reform”, the revolt will be in full force. The entire right and center will coalese and the whole damn thing will be repealed.
I hope.
This is where the troops shoot the officer in the back. Just how does Obama expect to get Democratic politicians to join him in this bold sacrifice of their seats? John McCain must be making phone calls tonight.
ambisinistral,
GMTA
During World War II, Franklin Delano Roosevelt wasn’t “Dr. New Deal”. He was “Dr. Win the War”.
There is a crisis in Haiti right now. That must be the principal focus of the Obama administration. Every hour dedicated to partisan strategy and health care legislation is one more hour taken away from directing the relief effort for Haiti.
Combat engineers should have built half a dozen temporary airfields throughout Haiti by now. There is no good reason why that has not happened yet. And even with the one airport in Haiti, relief supplies are piling up, caught up in red tape instead of going out to people who need help. This is not acceptable.
America is on the verge of facing a mass exodus of desperate Haitians, and President Obama is dithering. We can do better than this.
Alexis,
I am reposting this from the bottom of the Firestorm thread.
Obama has no downside that he can see from the Haiti earthquake. If anyone is rescued then it gets trumpeted in the press as a triumph of compassionate government and an example of international cooperation. As the place dissolves into chaos and violence and disease sweeps away hundereds of thousands on camera then all the violence and disorganization will be blamed on the US military and a legacy of distrust going back to Bush.
Wretchard –
I don’t think there will be “high variance.” Rather, a certain clarification of trends already existing. Since the 1960′s, the Dems have basically represented Blacks, Wealthy White radicals, Women, Hispanics, against the interests of the White Middle Class which they despise and the symbols of America which they detest. Such as the Flag. Or the military.
On the other side, since the 1950′s, Reps have represented the White Middle Class against everyone else.
This is what it is coming down to. Obama plans to “win” by a super-sized racial demagoging, appeal to radicals, and control of the Media (which worships him) into quasi-legal or blatantly illegal stuff which is Chicago Way standards.
For example, cram down Health Care by delaying Brown’s certification, illegally. Or a ping-pong vote via reconciliation with the rules broken not bent.
THEN: make about 30-40 Illegal Aliens from Mexico instant citizens, pass massive new taxes via Cap and Trade, and call it a permanent Democratic Majority.
Obama’s aim is a permanent, hard-left, anti-White Middle Class and anti-American Nation, every place in America resembling South Side Chicago. This has always been his goal.
As you observed, there is no place for White Middle Class people to move to, the taxes alone will be crushing and they will instantly go to despised minorities permanently discriminated against by the Black-Hispanic majority (Obama’s goal).
Democrats have no intention of doing anything but push demands harder, I predicted this some time ago. On their part, Republicans are tapping what might be called “White Identity by another name.”
Who is voting for Brown? Blacks? Hispanics? No. Its White men, plus some White women (mostly older).
America’s post-War consensus after 1968, of a multi-racial society predicated on limited Affirmative Action, rising economic growth and job/wage growth, a general color blind society has been undermined by the 1990′s onward Multiculturalism. It cannot hold anymore, as the interests of the White Middle Class and everyone else are mutually exclusive and tremendously hostile to each other.
Either America becomes a White Middle Class nation ruled by White Middle Class men, for the benefit of White Middle Class people, with those not White Middle Class occupying marginal, though tolerated within limits, positions, or the reverse: Everyone else (Mexican-origin, Blacks, Gays, Women’s groups, SWPL Elites) rules and the White Middle Class becomes the new untouchables, the serf class, the discriminated against peasants.
America as Switzerland (a nation state refounded on ethnic identity, race, language, culture, and mono-ethnic rule), or America as say, Brazil (a nation of a ruling overclass and permanent underclass, based on color, only reversed from Brazil’s color model).
Everyone knew this would happen. Obama is a Black President. Even if he was not culturally alien to the US (raised as a Muslim in Indonesia, in Hawaii as a teen, in Columbia and Rev. Wright’s Church as a man) MAJORITY, ANY BLACK PRESIDENT would have been the same.
The temptation to “punish White America for the Sins of Slavery and Segregation” would be too much for ANY Black President. Who would have done so, by pursuing such a radical agenda.
The dog that is not barking is Republicans offering a fig-leaf to Obama. That would suggest that racial and class polarization (they are essentially IMHO the same in America) has already happened. Look at who is backing Brown in the streets of Boston in “Massachussettes” — it is basically the White Blue and White collar voters.
In my view the doubling down makes the struggle existential. Either the White Middle Class fights with whatever weapons at hand, or it is destroyed. Regardless, the status-quo ante won’t be returned. The Obama forces have a chance to win by ruthless action, basically a Fujimoro “auto-coup” suspending the Constitution and ruling by decree with the assent of the Pentagon Brass, with a personal loyalty oath to Obama. This is not as far-fetched a successful outcome as you might think — I’d bet substantial amounts of Clinton-era generals and admirals and so on would back the Won.
But the smart money is on a Swiss Model Ethno-state, as the end result. Because you cannot call the Multiculturalist bullet back.
And that’s not High Variance. We’ve been heading down this road since Clinton.
Is a leader a leader if he has no followers?
Obama couldn’t save Corzine or Deeds. If Coakley goes down that’s 3. How many does it take before the Dem incumbents in swing distruicts start breaking ranks?
And, as others have asked, will there be GOPs ready to fill their shoes if the price is right?
The next 2 months may be the time when a lot of genuine political cowards in both parties find they have to man up. THAT should be interesting to watch.
Alexis –
Obama WANTS massive amounts of Haitian refugees, who can be made instant and permanent Dem voters. Enough of them and he can turn Florida permanently Blue.
Never let a good crisis go to waste. Always stick it to your enemy (the White Middle Class). These are the words Obama lives by.
Alexis @ 24–
The list of important things that have gone without proper attention due to the health care obsession is already so long, what’s one more issue to Obama?
wretchard:
So long as President Obama remained popular, he could get his way with congressional Democrats. However, there are very few politicians in Washington who are willing to “fall on their swords” merely because Barack Obama is a man in a hurry.
The Obama administration may claim that the fortunes of the Democratic Party will rise or fall with health care reform, but such a claim is simply not true. If the Democratic Party changes the subject away from health care reform and toward some other issue, I think most voters will ignore the health care reform saga entirely.
With the earthquake in Haiti, we live with a new zeitgeist. If President Obama continues to focus on last year’s quarrels instead of next year’s problems, he becomes a man of yesterday instead of a man of tomorrow. There are times when one must trim one’s agenda to the spirit of the times. President Obama will have many opportunities to show solid leadership, but whether he will do so remains to be seen.
Obama, Reid and Pelosi are holding out the prospect of, pardon the sacralige, life after death for any Dems who lose their heads, I mean seats, in the banzai charge. Jobs with Soros funded QUANGOS, University Presidencies (or at least fellowships), etc. They have a reward system that they think still works even if Republicans win the occasional election.
It’s one of the things that needs to be dismantled.
My biggest fear has been that Obama and the Dems will get reasonable. So far, that doesn’t appear to be the case, and it will be to their own disadvantage. It sure looks to me like they completely believe they’ve got the game rigged to the point where they can’t lose, regardless of who they alienate. That worries me. I do think there is hope for a return to a “center” of sorts, but it will take a large calving of the Democratic iceberg merging with a large number Republicans on the common issue of fiscal responsibility. That doesn’t even necessarily mean a reduction in the size of government, just a consensus on a governmental proportion of GDP limited to something around 20% and a repudiation of the tactic of debt. (Don’t get me wrong: I think lower than 20% is better, and the consensus I’ve outlined is less than ideal, but I suspect there’s no going back on a lot of this stuff.) But the key to this happening, as I said, is with Democrats who believe that the spending prcoess is out of control and MUST be reined in. In this, it’s the Democrats, not the Republicans, who are the “party of no”. But another thing that would really help is the emergence of someone who can credibly lead this realignment. So far, Republican “leadership” has been conspicuous only by its absence.
Well, duh! The phony “Progressives” road to power was always in incremental thievery. These are radicals you suddenly awakening fools.
Duh! R A D I C A L S. Jeesh, some people will never get it.
Or is it more than likely that they do not want to get it? This is explained a bit more at Incrementals. They are and never were progressive, but they were always incremental.
A friend quipped months ago: “They came to power and discovered there wasn’t any money. ‘Who stole the cheese? Those damn conservatives have absconded with it.’”
The established order is losing its grip and adults need to be ready to lead. Understand me. A few are more than ready for their Deprogramming.
Reid is going to be voted out of his office. Will he be rewarded with new position by Obama?
The problem with doubling down, betting the pot, is that eventually, one is going to have to deliver the winning hand or admit that one was bluffing. All the opponent has to do is to call.
When called, the rubber hits the road. Not theory. Not ideology. Results.
Here is where Obama and his Administration has their challenge.
There are no positive results. The agenda has not corrected the recession. It hasn’t created jobs. It hasn’t repaired the housing industry. It has only reinforced the canards used to gain power.
Mainsteam American isn’t as naive as they are thought of.
Marty:
Haiti is a tipping point. So is the race in Massachusetts. I would now be surprised if Martha Coakley actually wins the senate seat there. Massachusetts is one of the safest states for any Democrat, so losing a special election there will be a shock. I think a loss in Massachusetts may effectively cost Barack Obama control over the Democratic Party.
Whiskey @ 26:
Germany of 1933 comes to DC in 2008? That seems to be what you are saying. I cannot say I can argue much with your conclusions (and that bothers in itself, sadly).
JMH @ 31:
Agreed, we need our own “long march through the institutions”.
WillDoMathForFood @ 32:
Totally agree. It is what us supposedly unreasonable types like Habu and Subotai and others have been saying. They think they have the game rigged. Why? And how? I just hope we do not get to the point where we have to find out.
(Courtesy of The Black Crowes)
Athos @ 35:
The Left and The Won is called. They better have the winner or the money to cover their bets. To continue the poker metaphor, we know they do not have the money so they d-mn straight better have the cards. In my crowd having the losing hand & no money to cover gets you a beat down at least. Do it too many times and we’ll let them play for the pleasure of finishing their bluffs.
Some thirst for the pain. They even get to like it sometimes.
That is what The Left remind me of…..
And some of us are tapped out. Got nothing more to lose having lost it all already.
Blacks, Wealthy White radicals, Women, Hispanics
To which you might add radical Muslims, left wing Jews and various special sexual interests. What holds that unlikely coalition together isn’t race nor mutual fondness nor shared vision. On the contrary; from the unscripted snippets of Reid, Clinton and even Jesse Jackson they hate each other like poison. If we could only know what CAIR thinks of NOW it would priceless. But they’ll keep up the fake smile for the cameras. Why?
Because what holds that big tent together is the expectation of money and power; that’s the tentpole of the whole shebang. Once the prospect of money is gone the whole structure falls to the ground and all you have left is a mess of people all gouging each other’s eyes out underneath an expanse of canvas. The bigger the Big Tent the bigger the money and the political spoils required to hold it together. Those huge revenue measures — the stimulus, “health care” and cap ‘n trade — aren’t aspirational goods, they are political necessities. They are the price of the current administration’s election.
Although a lot of people were surprised by the turn of events in “liberal” Massachusetts from another point of view this was where you would expect the chain to snap because it was further along the processing line than anybody else. They were three quarters of the way inside the python already. They could see it’s ass and they didn’t like it. Nobody wanted to be double-taxed for “health care reform” or other kinds of Change which they had had enough of. In way where else but Mass?
And why again? Because the money was beginning to run short. So the real challenge for the left over the next three years is how to keep their Ponzi scheme going to keep every one paid off. But it won’t happen because it can’t happen.
The key factor is not likely to be racial, but monetary. Many of the Lefts vassal allies will never be free to pursue their destiny until they are free of that toxic tent, where cheap gewgaws are handed out to keep the low-income members of the coalition happy. To some extent the election of Barack Obama must have been accompanied by some hope that it represented a change within the coalition as much as a victory of the coalition; the poorer members of the tent would become the senior partners in the coalition after so many years of patient servitude. The election of 2008 was as much between Clinton and Obama as it was between McCain and Obama. It was as much an internal power struggle as it was a struggle for national political power.
What happens in the next few months when people in inner cities all over America see the Wall Street people getting billion dollar bonuses while they experience 25% unemployment is that they’ll begin to realize they’ve been had. They’ve been tricked. They’re still junior partners. Somebody was going to pay for their mortgage; somebody was going to pick up their health care; somebody was going to give them a government job. Well the check is in the mail. Far more damaginging is the realization that the man in the White House can’t deliver. And the reason he can’t deliver is because there’s no money.
I’m beginning to think that the right way to understand Copenhagen and “climate change” is to see it as a gambit by the Left to manage offshore political challenges. By equalizing or managing growth across the US, China, India, Japan and Europe the elites could avoid the stresses caused by competition and trudge on with their 5 year plans to stay in power indefinitely. The aristocratic pact to keep the Third World burghers from getting too uppity. But they decided to be uppity anyway. The collapse of Copenhagen marks the failure of that hope. All of this spells doom for the Big Tent.
One way or the other the stage is set for a political crisis. But it will grip the Republicans too, who are afflicted with the condition of cluelessness at the moment when they need to think clearly, but can’t. So my guess is that the need for leadership will come from unexpected quarters, just as the crisis events will also come from unexpected directions.
Some things are too serious for light verse, and this is one of them. My principal concern is that an intervening event will change the calculus. There is every indication that Israel will attack Iran before the Persian bomb is ready to go, and if that happens this summer, then all domestic bets are off, as we will be at war with Iran, who will close the Straits of Hormuz, which we cannot permit to remain closed. In that event, I see the people rallying behind the president, as we always do, and this president ruling by decree, pretty much as FDR did during WW2, all with the consent of the governed. Obama’s agenda is not health care, it is the destruction of the United States in its present form and its rebirth as a Marxist/Leninist state, as outlined by Alinsky and the Frankfurt crowd. My fear is that under cover of wartime patriotism he may get away with it.
When the French royalty returned to France in 1814 after the end of Napoleonic wars, the French foreign minister Talleyrand famously quiped about the Bourbons: “they have learned nothing and forgotten nothing.”
In a very short time, the French people remembered why they beheaded the previous king. The Bourbons did not rule France for too long….
So, all in all, I believe it would be better for America if Obama and his liberal allies completely lose their minds, try to steal elections in Massachusetts, and when that fails, they delay the swearing in of senator Brown until they ram through their HealthCare Bill. And then, in November 2010, the DNC suffers the worst defeat ever recorded in world history, and the GOP turns everything around and cancels all the stupidity.
All in all, I predicted in November 2008 that liberals will be in deep trouble if Obama is elected, but even I am surprised at how quickly they f*cked up everything they touched. It’s simply amazing.
See my predictions here:
http://hyphenatedamericans.blogspot.com/2008/11/i-can-live-with-obama_02.html
For Walt:
Your scenario, which describes war as a possible way out for Obama is plausible, but it seems like it is unlikely at this stage. I too believed in 2008 that Obama would try to get US into war, but it appears to be unlikely in the near term.
Firstly, Israelis are not stupid, and they will at least wait for 2010 elections before striking Iran. Moreover, Iran is on the brink of collapse and revolution, so Israelis better wait.
Secondly, FDR was actually trying to get US into war, he was not a purely peace president. A big chunk of republicans though wanted to keep US out of the conflict. Today, the situation is quite different.
If US is attacked, it will be quite possibly interpreted by the people as a result of Obama’s weakness as a president – on par with his economic stupidity – just as what happened with Jimmy Carter.
I respectfully suggest that the American healthcare issue (which admittedly does need solving – the current system has numerous faults) pales into insignificance compared to the issue posed by Servant of Satan above. As said, Sauron cannot be defeated until the Ring is destroyed.
One Stone to rule them all,
One Stone to find them,
One Stone to bring them all
and in the darkness bind them
In the land of Saudi where the Shadow lies.
Time and past time to bring light into the Shadow. The light of a thousand suns. 1350 years of war is enough.
It’s hard to square the Democrats resolve to double-down in view of recent polling. Obama’s popularity is down to -50% and his health care plan is less than that. Most interesting is Rasmussen’s recent poll of Americans which found that only 20% of Americans identify as liberals. Independents and Conservatives make up the rest. Where does he think he’s going to get support for his liberal/progressive agenda?
Point of clarification about my use of “banzai charge”. It ain’t kamikaze.
A kamikaze entertained certain hopes, no matter how ill-founded, of changing the course and outcome of the war.
In contrast, the purpose of the banzai charge was simply to get those making the charge dead.
It was very similar to “suicide by cop”.
Any and all damage to friendly forces was rather coincidental.
Fundamentally, it is a good tactic for our enemies to employ. However, the darned things will scare the pants off of you and the immense relief at having survived the fright tends to lead you to assume that all is now said and done and you can relax. In truth, you need to get up, get moving and counterattack before the opportunity thus presented goes away and more and tougher problems present themselves.
I sense that The One has a rather compulsive need for his supporters to sacrifice themselves on his behalf in lost causes.
(The pain of those who lose office to be diminished by ambassadorships, judgeships,
and other plums. The pain of those who are abandoned to be diminished by various and sundry forms of tempermental outbursts.)
This is rather indicative of a hidden desire
to engage in a martydom operation himself.
Hence an embrace of failure wherever it can be found.
Our need is then for that counterattack. Concrete proposals for achievable goals that make no pretense of being utopian, merely functional. And reflective of sound philosophy as well.
Now that is where I was and am coming from fellows. “Banzai charge” was an easy way of saying it.
President Barack Obama, in essence, is the trash talking guy on the other football team who shoots off his
mouth before the big game, and on the opening kickoff gets overrun by bigger, stronger, smarter players. When the dust
settles, Obama reminds me of the cartoon character that literally gets peeled off the turf.
The brown eyed, ego as big as ears, handsome man, like the Japanese in WWII pulled off a bit of a sneak attack on the
American people. We thought it about time that an African American was elected President. He spoke of change, but not the kind
out of the Saul Alinsky playbook.
Attacking free enterprise. Gaining control of the means of production like General Motors. Castigating bankers (a subtle attack on
Jews), naming a Sotomayor bigot (“white males are inherently inferior”) to the Supreme Court, calling one of the best
fairest police officers in the country a stupid white man for arresting one of Barack’s bosom Harvard buddies who’s
more racist than even the racist words that came flowing out of his fetid mouth that fateful night. Dropping the Black Panther
voter intimidation open and shut case. Ending the term, terrorist. Substituting for it, man made disasters. Shoving ObamaCare
down very resistant American throats. Calling 60 year old Town Hall opposers of ObamaCare unpatriotic and Nazis, almost in the
same putrid breath. Promising transparency and then delivering anything but. Promising no earmarks and then signing bills with thousands of
them worth millions of dollars going straight to Obama supporters. Et cetera. Et cetera. Get the picture, Obama, you’ve made a mess out
of things. You can blame Bush till the cows come on, bug it’s flabbergasting what a terrible President you’ve been in just 12 short months.
So now, if Brown wins, Obama threatens to play hardball. Well, I think Obama has balls of mush. He bows and curtsies to our
sworn enemies. Apologizes to every third rate tyrant who’ll listen. Gets the Nobel Prize for having socialist pulse.
Bad news, Obama, (how shall I say it?) “the jig is up. Your colors are not red, white and blue. You’re cover has been blown. We’re gonna get rid of you, the
sooner, the better. And the Coatlady, Martha is just the start.
Who was Obama, someone may honestly inquire?
Obama was the bully down the street. Obama was the guy with the story. The great set of empty words that sounded good, but have hit a million sour notes. Great speeches. Ill grant you that. But no backbone to back it up. The teleprompter kid.
Obama, you surrounded yourself with self processed communists Czars and Nambla fans (van “the can” johnson and Kevin Jennings). You sang the praises of your domestic terrorist
buddy, Bill Ayers. And you hunh around for 20 years with a American hating preacher; then threw him under the bus when
Wright’s idiot idiology threatened to harm your approval rating.
Which I might add has turned like a worm into the largest disapproval rating of any President a year into his disgraceful administration.
Obama, your mask is removed. Your act has worn thin. Your hatred for anything that smacks traditionally American, like self reliance,
free enterprise, a strong military has been exposed. We don’t have spies. Your actions tell us you were at best a bad mistake and at worst
an intentional destroyer of every ideal this nation was founded upon.
These words, Mr. President are the equivalent of a pie in the face. Nobody dances to your song anymore. We no longer march to your drum beat. Your brilliant speeches only move us to loathe you more and more. You are not just un-American. You’re anti-American. If, when you took the oath of office a lie detector was attached to your small frame, the needle would have been wobbling like a man on a fuzzy tree.
The tree metaphor is appropriate, sir, because your extreme left turn since taking office has left you and your cohorts way, way out on a limb. Philosophicall, you’ve got more in common with the folks in Red Square than the chess players at Washington Square Park.
Politically, you and your supporters are canoeing upstream without a paddle. Mr. President, the country that voting you and your friends in is in the process of voting you, as Ralph Cramden would say, to the moon. The whole kit and caboodle of you.
Your lies, one on top of another, after 12 months, are unacceptable. In fact, in this short span of time, you must have accumulated enough
Frequent Liar Miles to fly 10,000 times around the world, non-stop.
Bottom line, your like the guy in the cement foxhole that’s impregnable to normal shelling. Somebody’s gonna have to metaphorically lob a satchel of high explosive truth into your hole that explodes all the lies, myths and inartfully stated nonsense that have oozed come out of pie holes like yours these 12 horrible, disgraceful months you’ve been in power.
President Obama, buddy, it doesn’t matter what brave words you concoct. Or how much conviction you put in those words. The only conviction you can look forward to is the legal kind.
Sir, the bully brave front doesn’t wash anymore. Your bold socialist plans, no matter how “clearly packaged” now have the limp wristed impact of a feather in a blizzard. All your dreams and unspoken schemes are like dust in the wind. Yes, how things change.
Many, many people thought they were electing a great statesman from Chicago. Little did they know what we all are finding out.
That you were never more than a little man in the right place at the right time. A man sans character. Sans loyalty to America. A man
who recited the oath that January day, and never meant a word of it.
Who is Barack Obama?
We now know. Just another bum from the neighborhood.
President Barack Obama, in essence, is the trash talking guy on the other football team who shoots off his
mouth before the big game, and on the opening kickoff gets overrun by bigger, stronger, smarter players. When the dust
settles, Obama reminds me of the cartoon character that literally gets peeled off the turf.
The brown eyed, ego as big as ears, handsome man, like the Japanese in WWII pulled off a bit of a sneak attack on the
American people. We thought it about time that an African American was elected President. He spoke of change, but not the kind
out of the Saul Alinsky playbook.
Attacking free enterprise. Gaining control of the means of production like General Motors. Castigating bankers (a subtle attack on
Jews), naming a Sotomayor bigot (“white males are inherently inferior”) to the Supreme Court, calling one of the best
fairest police officers in the country a stupid white man for arresting one of Barack’s bosom Harvard buddies who’s
more racist than even the racist words that came flowing out of his fetid mouth that fateful night. Dropping the Black Panther
voter intimidation open and shut case. Ending the term, terrorist. Substituting for it, man made disasters. Shoving ObamaCare
down very resistant American throats. Calling 60 year old Town Hall opposers of ObamaCare unpatriotic and Nazis, almost in the
same putrid breath. Promising transparency and then delivering anything but. Promising no earmarks and then signing bills with thousands of
them worth millions of dollars going straight to Obama supporters. Et cetera. Et cetera. Get the picture, Obama, you’ve made a mess out
of things. You can blame Bush till the cows come on, bug it’s flabbergasting what a terrible President you’ve been in just 12 short months.
So now, if Brown wins, Obama threatens to play hardball. Well, I think Obama has balls of mush. He bows and curtsies to our
sworn enemies. Apologizes to every third rate tyrant who’ll listen. Gets the Nobel Prize for having socialist pulse.
Bad news, Obama, (how shall I say it?) “the jig is up. Your colors are not red, white and blue. You’re cover has been blown. We’re gonna get rid of you, the
sooner, the better. And the Coatlady, Martha is just the start.
Who was Obama, someone may honestly inquire?
Obama was the bully down the street. Obama was the guy with the story. The great set of empty words that sounded good, but have hit a million sour notes. Great speeches. Ill grant you that. But no backbone to back it up. The teleprompter kid.
Obama, you surrounded yourself with self processed communists Czars and Nambla fans (van “the can” johnson and Kevin Jennings). You sang the praises of your domestic terrorist
buddy, Bill Ayers. And you hunh around for 20 years with a American hating preacher; then threw him under the bus when
Wright’s idiot idiology threatened to harm your approval rating.
Which I might add has turned like a worm into the largest disapproval rating of any President a year into his disgraceful administration.
Obama, your mask is removed. Your act has worn thin. Your hatred for anything that smacks traditionally American, like self reliance,
free enterprise, a strong military has been exposed. We don’t have spies. Your actions tell us you were at best a bad mistake and at worst
an intentional destroyer of every ideal this nation was founded upon.
These words, Mr. President are the equivalent of a pie in the face. Nobody dances to your song anymore. We no longer march to your drum beat. Your brilliant speeches only move us to loathe you more and more. You are not just un-American. You’re anti-American. If, when you took the oath of office a lie detector was attached to your small frame, the needle would have been wobbling like a man on a fuzzy tree.
The tree metaphor is appropriate, sir, because your extreme left turn since taking office has left you and your cohorts way, way out on a limb. Philosophicall, you’ve got more in common with the folks in Red Square than the chess players at Washington Square Park.
Politically, you and your supporters are canoeing upstream without a paddle. Mr. President, the country that voting you and your friends in is in the process of voting you, as Ralph Cramden would say, to the moon. The whole kit and caboodle of you.
Your lies, one on top of another, after 12 months, are unacceptable. In fact, in this short span of time, you must have accumulated enough
Frequent Liar Miles to fly 10,000 times around the world, non-stop.
Bottom line, your like the guy in the cement foxhole that’s impregnable to normal shelling. Somebody’s gonna have to metaphorically lob a satchel of high explosive truth into your hole that explodes all the lies, myths and inartfully stated nonsense that have oozed come out of pie holes like yours these 12 horrible, disgraceful months you’ve been in power.
President Obama, buddy, it doesn’t matter what brave words you concoct. Or how much conviction you put in those words. The only conviction you can look forward to is the legal kind.
Sir, the bully brave front doesn’t wash anymore. Your bold socialist plans, no matter how “clearly packaged” now have the limp wristed impact of a feather in a blizzard. All your dreams and unspoken schemes are like dust in the wind. Yes, how things change.
President Barack Obama, in essence, is the trash talking guy on the other football team who shoots off his
mouth before the big game, and on the opening kickoff gets overrun by bigger, stronger, smarter players. When the dust
settles, Obama reminds me of the cartoon character that literally gets peeled off the turf.
The brown eyed, ego as big as ears, handsome man, like the Japanese in WWII pulled off a bit of a sneak attack on the
American people. We thought it about time that an African American was elected President. He spoke of change, but not the kind
out of the Saul Alinsky playbook.
Attacking free enterprise. Gaining control of the means of production like General Motors. Castigating bankers (a subtle attack on
Jews), naming a Sotomayor bigot (“white males are inherently inferior”) to the Supreme Court, calling one of the best
fairest police officers in the country a stupid white man for arresting one of Barack’s bosom Harvard buddies who’s
more racist than even the racist words that came flowing out of his fetid mouth that fateful night. Dropping the Black Panther
voter intimidation open and shut case. Ending the term, terrorist. Substituting for it, man made disasters. Shoving ObamaCare
down very resistant American throats. Calling 60 year old Town Hall opposers of ObamaCare unpatriotic and Nazis, almost in the
same putrid breath. Promising transparency and then delivering anything but. Promising no earmarks and then signing bills with thousands of
them worth millions of dollars going straight to Obama supporters. Et cetera. Et cetera. Get the picture, Obama, you’ve made a mess out
of things. You can blame Bush till the cows come on, bug it’s flabbergasting what a terrible President you’ve been in just 12 short months.
So now, if Brown wins, Obama threatens to play hardball. Well, I think Obama has balls of mush. He bows and curtsies to our
sworn enemies. Apologizes to every third rate tyrant who’ll listen. Gets the Nobel Prize for having socialist pulse.
Bad news, Obama, (how shall I say it?) “the jig is up. Your colors are not red, white and blue. You’re cover has been blown. We’re gonna get rid of you, the
sooner, the better. And the Coatlady, Martha is just the start.
Who was Obama, someone may honestly inquire?
Obama was the bully down the street. Obama was the guy with the story. The great set of empty words that sounded good, but have hit a million sour notes. Great speeches. Ill grant you that. But no backbone to back it up. The teleprompter kid.
Obama, you surrounded yourself with self processed communists Czars and Nambla fans (van “the can” johnson and Kevin Jennings). You sang the praises of your domestic terrorist
buddy, Bill Ayers. And you hunh around for 20 years with a American hating preacher; then threw him under the bus when
Wright’s idiot idiology threatened to harm your approval rating.
Which I might add has turned like a worm into the largest disapproval rating of any President a year into his disgraceful administration.
Obama, your mask is removed. Your act has worn thin. Your hatred for anything that smacks traditionally American, like self reliance,
free enterprise, a strong military has been exposed. We don’t have spies. Your actions tell us you were at best a bad mistake and at worst
an intentional destroyer of every ideal this nation was founded upon.
These words, Mr. President are the equivalent of a pie in the face. Nobody dances to your song anymore. We no longer march to your drum beat. Your brilliant speeches only move us to loathe you more and more. You are not just un-American. You’re anti-American. If, when you took the oath of office a lie detector was attached to your small frame, the needle would have been wobbling like a man on a fuzzy tree.
The tree metaphor is appropriate, sir, because your extreme left turn since taking office has left you and your cohorts way, way out on a limb. Philosophicall, you’ve got more in common with the folks in Red Square than the chess players at Washington Square Park.
Politically, you and your supporters are canoeing upstream without a paddle. Mr. President, the country that voting you and your friends in is in the process of voting you, as Ralph Cramden would say, to the moon. The whole kit and caboodle of you.
Your lies, one on top of another, after 12 months, are unacceptable. In fact, in this short span of time, you must have accumulated enough
Frequent Liar Miles to fly 10,000 times around the world, non-stop.
Bottom line, your like the guy in the cement foxhole that’s impregnable to normal shelling. Somebody’s gonna have to metaphorically lob a satchel of high explosive truth into your hole that explodes all the lies, myths and inartfully stated nonsense that have oozed come out of pie holes like yours these 12 horrible, disgraceful months you’ve been in power.
President Obama, buddy, it doesn’t matter what brave words you concoct. Or how much conviction you put in those words. The only conviction you can look forward to is the legal kind.
Sir, the bully brave front doesn’t wash anymore. Your bold socialist plans, no matter how “clearly packaged” now have the limp wristed impact of a feather in a blizzard. All your dreams and unspoken schemes are like dust in the wind. Yes, how things change.
Many, many people thought they were electing a great statesman from Chicago. Little did they know what we all are finding out.
That you were never more than a little man in the right place at the right time. A man sans character. Sans loyalty to America. A man
who recited the oath that January day, and never meant a word of it.
Who is Barack Obama?
We now know. Just another bum from the neighborhood.
Coakley reminds me of a Gubernatorial candidate we had here in Maryland a couple of elections ago. Her name was Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, and she was a miserable candidate. She did have the advantage of her middle name and the fact she was Democrat in this Bluest of Blue states. She thought that was enough, but still got walloped, because she was dreadful. If Coakley was any kind of decent candidate she would win, and still may.
There’s some justification to the theory that this is more about Coakley and less about O. I hope O and company attribute her loss to this instead of to a repudiation of their policies, because if so they’ll continue with the double down. That won’t play well in many other places in the country, regardless of what the people in Mass think of it. That’ll lead to larger gains for the GOP in November. I just hope that actually means something, and they can at least block some of the BS we’re seeing, but I fear they’ll probably go all bipartisan on us again.
I remember when O won (been a year already?) the blogs were filled with smug, self congratulatory types who were proclaiming that “we won”, conservatism is dead, nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah, etc. etc. Where are they now? I fear that the GOP will take back one or both Houses of Congress, we’ll see a lot of jubilation on the blogs, followed by quick disappointment as the GOP shows it’s true colors.
The elites of both parties hear what they want to. They’re behind the times, and don’t have an understanding of the problems we face, or the new political atmosphere in this Country.
Obama has no downside that he can see from the Haiti earthquake…. As the place dissolves into chaos and violence and disease sweeps away hundereds of thousands on camera…
With respect, LOTM, I’d suggest the televised meltdown of a society in our hemisphere will resonate with Americans in a heretofore unlikely manner.
Millions — and not just those who watch Glenn Beck crying on TV — have the uneasy feeling that we’re sliding toward banana-republic status. Millions retain their life-savings in low-yielding money market accounts because they fear the worst economically is yet to come. Millions who would have laughed at the notion in 2006 have become “preppers.” Etc.
Millions see Obama as the charms of Haiti and Africa come to America.
the President had a tendency to raise the stakes whenever he was losing. It was always all or nothing. And now if nothing, then his tendency will be to put the blame on the opposition…. Governance will probably be a low priority in the coming year. The fundamental theme of 2010 will be a struggle for power.”
Well, this has always proven to be obama’s MO, winning or losing… That said, he could never be accused of effective “governance” (in fact, I doubt that obama even knows how to define the term… at least, not experientially). So what else is new?
The US is not a European Social Democratic political creature. Obama is. And that’s his problem. He’s a believer. He does things because he views himself as being on the correct side of history–in that old time Marxian/Hegelian 19th century sense. The problem is galaxies and the uncertainty principle did not intellectually exist in the 19th century. 99 percent of all species that have ever lived on earth are extinct. Being on the right side of history makes about as much sense as saying one is on the right side of the electron that just popped into or out of existence–sort of like Haiti, a former French slave plantation. Which is, I suppose, another way of saying he’ll “double down” instead of doing the Clinton professional politician route.
Since we are getting all “Lord of the rings’ Right Wing Realist I would suggest the Mohammedan BOGUS POTUS and Blatant Bare faced LIAR is more like ‘Golum’ ‘Whats it got in its pocketses’ because as sure as eggs is eggs he wants to STEAL IT.
I would suggest the Mohammedan BOGUS POTUS …is more like ‘Golum’
I’d certainly pay to watch him biting the ring off Pelosi’s finger.
LOTM,
What do you mean “block the troll”? Is there some twit-filter feature here I’m not seeing?
Obama will look simply silly riding around the country in that Dukakis tank.
I think that the psychological effect in this discussion is being overlooked of a Scott Brown win on Dem Representatives and to a degree some Senators. It is like they have been brainwashed and pulled into the Obowma Cult….this will wake some of them up. This will also mobilize groups and candidates across the country to get the next guy in their sites…(for ex. Evan Bahy)….Congressmen like that…and others won’t go along with a double-down approach when they know the rainbows and unicorns in Obowma land provide no protection and no cover.
I don’t buy the idea that the GOP needs a positive message. The politics of hate and personal destruction have worked quite nicely for the Democrats.
Obama, like all small men, a stranger to the truth, has had his corruption on display for 12 months. Doubling down will have the forced result of having him shown to be unable to execute. Results are zero for all his programs. The one eyed Jack is exposed. Chicago thug politics back into their holes.
whiskey @ 28
Don’t forget that the “electrifying” phrase in the Wright sermon, “white folks’ greed runs a world in need”, the phrase that set Obama’s course into politics, was referring to Haiti, Port-au-Prince specifically.
I’m sure the earthquake has a different meaning for him than it does for normal people.
wretchard @ 20 “stuffed their mouths with gold”
This refers to Aneurin Bevan’s insightful move to neutralize English hospital consultants, who could have wrecked the NHS at the outset, by making sure they were better off AFTER reform than before.
I’ve often thought of this, US hospital consultant that I am, as Obama’s wreckers move ahead with their plans. They have identified us as enemy #1 and are doing everything possible to make sure we are worse off, in some cases unable to function, after reform. Of course, the reformers themselves are like children trying to fix a mechanical watch with a hammer.
Channelling Han Solo: “Who’s gonna fly it, kid? You?”
#1
Hello, Fellowbabies,
We are sharing some strong, unsettling premonitions; We may be descending into a Hellish dark night, I hope not… I want to share a few ideas. Thanks for #57, Crusader, I’m alone, It’s dark, I’m feeling a disturbance in the Force – like millions of souls are being extinguished – with more to come… and I badly need a chuckle.
trickery, treachery, shock
For the last 35 years, Democrats have never exhibited any scruples to use the lowest of means in their efforts to oppose Republicans. But our Party leaders seem to be determined to prove that “we are better than that” even if it means sacrificing every Republican Congressional member to the last man. When does it stop? When are we going to get some leaders with sufficient guts to stand up for conservative values and try to prevent the extinction of the Party? If we don’t drop the “we’re better than that” approach we’ll soon be the “late” Republican party.
In the past decade Congressional members have destroyed the ability of their constituents to have their view point debated and counted in the legal, normal, traditional legislative process. We Republican voters have got to wise-up fast and declare that this behavior must cease; the day in which Americans could depend on honest elections appears to be ending. It is not merely that Independents voted Democrat or failed to vote at all in the last election, it is that Republicans have responded to pressure by kicking fellow Congressmen from office for offending the PC crowd —- not for having committed a proven misdemeanor or felony.
Congressional Republicans must remember that they not only represent the interests of their own constituents, but that the Congress always addresses issues of national concern; and when Congressional Republicans force a legally elected, fellow Republican from office because they have somehow violated some unwritten, constantly revised PC standard they are thwarting the voters of that specific constituency and disenfranchising their vote, and effectively diminishing Republican voice and vote in shaping national issues. By these activities, elected Republicans failed to represent the best interests of their constituents in issues of national concern.
This is absolutely the fault of Republican Congressional members and cannot be blamed on anyone else. They acted for the most incredibly idiotic PC reasons: and in doing so they have played right into Democrat hands ***over and over again*** By these actions Republicans themselves have:
* reduced the Republican voting presence on important issues
* they have insured that Republican views will not be debated or considered
* they have thrown away majority status, important committee positions, and even the ability to moderate daily events while Democrats of the 111th session have completely trashed and disregarded the rules and traditions of the very body whose integrity they have sworn to defend.
* with the departure of each of those discarded legislators, Republicans “lost” the member’s committee management experience, that member’s net-working relations and friends, that member’s legislative skills, and the cumulative skills and experience of his staff.
So these are some of my expectations concerning Republicans on-the-job performance. Republicans must commit to aggressively defend and advance these as well as general conservative viewpoints and interests to gain my continued vote. I welcome any additions and improvements. Maybe this will spark the building of some plan, maybe a mission statement…
operation backbone: the RNC needs one – if we have to strap it on ourselves
really basic mind set for Republican voters:
1) To help maintain Republican participation in issues of national importance, I will send donations to the campaigns of Republicans in other states to insure a national voice.
2) Every incumbent must know that his record is being watched, and that he must retain the voter’s approval. I will not automatically give the incumbent another term.
Demanded: Politicians may criticize career incumbents, but is unlikely they will set term limits on themselves; so from now on as a mind-set aimed at Republican survival, we voters must provide term limits. If your Representative or Senator isn’t performing to expectation, do not support him with a vote. We have way too many Representatives in both houses that have been gobbling at the public trough for decades. !”the Kennedy Seat” indeed! Give me a Break! The free ride must end.
3) Unless a Republican candidate is unquestionably a known, flaming Rino he’s got to light- years preferable to any Democrat.
Deuce: That big mighty fine 747 he sports around in, paid for by the people driving those old pickups, has gone to Obama’s head. Attacking a man who drives a pick-up is not only ignorant, but in politics, plain ol’ stupid.
I presume that Brown is driving a Ford truck and not a Government Motors POS. In this household we are Fordonlyites.
ABC Empathizes with White House: Coakley Loss ‘Shakespearean,’ ‘Tragedy of Greek Proportions’. Stephanopoulos agrees with Barney Frank, if Brown wins, socialized medicine dies.
Meanwhile, in Saudi Arabia, and 80-year-old man marries an 11-year-old girl and France accuses the US of occupying Haiti.
62 Teresita
I presume that Brown is driving a Ford truck and not a Government Motors POS.
Unfortunately the Brownmobile is a 2005 GMC Canyon truck. (My tribe are all Fordites too, FWIW).
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4) I do not want a Republican whose first response in negotiating is to seek compromise–Republicans have proven repeatedly that they are not shrewd enough to negotiate a deal without giving away more than they receive; Republicans who insist on “reaching across the isle” in the hope of enlisting Democrat support for any initiative must know by now that to expect an honest follow through on promised obligations will only happen when it is totally convenient to Democrats.
Republicans have not yet tried the one tactic that never fails to interest a Democrat – bribery.
Democrats have proven that there is no question of national security, loyalty, honor, or scruple that will bind them.
At this late date any elected Republican that hasn’t figured this out is too freaking stupid to be worthy of my vote.
These are my specific demands:
5) Demanded: Republicans cannot, should not, and will not, force fellow Republicans to step-down from a position of Congressional or party leadership, or elective office for the “mere appearance”, not for a remark, not for a gesture, not for a past indiscretion, etc., that is publicly deemed Politically Incorrect. Republican Congressmen must resolve:
a) that the Republican party, from local to national elected officers, will not accede to PC pressure. and
b) that the Republican party, if it makes any special rules to police their own behavior among themselves, those rules will not constitute a suicide pact.
6) Demanded: I want a pronouncement of guiding principals, a mission statements from the RNC. obama’s (sic) actions are destroying America. The RNC cannot continue to sit inactively as the American economy collapses and the government marches into dictatorship. WE ARE WAITING. The events of the last 12 months cry out for the RNC to publicly address a multitude of specific issues; and this would excite and rally the grassroots Republicans.
7) Demanded: Republicans will not force a vote on proposed legislation before it has been written, read, and debated fairly and legally. Neither will unelected staff members add extended clauses either to expand or reduce the effect of the bill, to include or exclude citizens, races, acts, personal or public activities, properties, etc.
Demanded: Republicans will not present multi-thousand page bills with the demand that it be voted and passed into final legislation. A real, continuing emergency demands expert consultation, rational examination, thought, and debate; not hysteria.
9) Demanded: Republicans will guarantee time for the reading of proposed bills by all elected Representatives and Senators, and time for their staff and councilors to consider the implications of the proposed bill.
10) Demanded: Republicans will respect and guarantee the restoration of the traditions of legal, unrestricted debate of proposed bills, and voting on the floors of Congress; there will be no secret, midnight voting.
11) Demanded: Republicans will provide timely publication of the proposed bill on the Government Printing Office web site, as has been the case before the 111th Congress.
12) Demanded: Republicans will guarantee the equal application of the law to all citizens, with no consideration of political affiliation — there will be no exceptions as has been the case since 2009 where Democrats will neither indict or try a Democrat.
13) Demanded: Republicans will guarantee that prospective appointees to any agency will not be seated in that office if the vetting process reveals poor judgement, participation in political or religious organizations hostile to mainstream America, ongoing or past criminal activity – whether misdemeanor or felonious. Such a person should not enjoy the pay and privileges of office, nor should citizens be expected to respect and obey such person.
14) Demanded: Republicans will guarantee that voting in public elections be free of intimidation or the taint of fraud.
15) Demanded: Republicans will treat voter intimidation – at or near the polling booth – by organized groups, whether private or public, whether they represent a political party, religious group, union, etc. as a federal crime.
16) Demanded: Republicans will investigate all cases of voter fraud. The failure of a US Attorney to actively investigate such election activity, and the failure to prosecute a case with solid evidence will be treated by Presidential and Congressional Republicans as a clear case of dereliction in office and a justification for removal.
Poor wittle Bambi. He is coming up impotent. The Obamas have no real strategy to make a comeback, their ideas are bankrupt, a massive failure. Raw emotion will now rule them. Attacking capitalism is all they have left. The Marxist Democrats will love it. Ma and Pa traditional Democrats will go tea party, thankful there is a an alternative to the Clueless Republicans.
Gary Ogletree @ 65
Obama will want to go Chavez. I don’t think he has the stones.
We’ll see.
It is well to not that even the mass murdering Mao enjoyed a puzzling affection from his victims–er, citizens. Just because O’s a pestilence doesn’t mean everyone recognizes him as such.
Also, Obama has the deep, deep pockets of George Soros to work with. You can thank Soros for much of this current disaster.
Bottom line: it gets much, much worse for us over the next 3 years as the Left tries to nail down all the exits. If we don’t destroy them, they will most certainly destroy us. If we don’t destroy them, we are in our death throes.
Dear Esteeemed President Obama:
To quote your eminently more qualified predecessor, ‘Bring it on”.
Teresita,
Scott Brown drives a GMC truck with 200,000 miles on it He bought it long before Obama showed up.
Haiti should be placed under the authority of the UN Trusteeship Council and assigned to a Condominium of France, Brazil and India. No B, J, H, F or R nonimmigrant visas should be issued to admit Haitians into the US. No immigrant visas should be issued to Haitian citizens for 10 years. Those needing emergency medical care may be paroled in for a limited time. Many people are unaware of the nonvisa status of parolee that CBP can use. While some may object that my proposal would violate the Monroe Doctrine in this case we should welcome the presence of the French. May they embrace Haiti and find it at least as useful in demonstrating their superior ways to the Anglo-saxons, and as ready a source of immigrant labor, as Algeria proved to be.
To be blogged under the title “Give Haiti Back.”
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laugh if you want — I have *no* idea where that smiley face where # 8 should be came from.
17) Demanded: Republicans will not tolerate the existence of one or multiple instances of the unconstitutional entity known as a “Czar”. Republicans will insist on the investigation of Czars and their activities; and Republican Presidents will not continue the system as practiced by obama.
The Czars as appointed by obama constitute the creation of an extra-legal entity enjoying Cabinet-level powers, answerable only to the President; the agencies headed by these Czars have unenumerated powers, vague, unwritten mission statements, the power to issue regulations with the same force of law as those of Congress, they lack Inspector Generals, they lack a body of sanctions – there is no legally defined permissible or illegal acts to limit the Czar or his agency. They are essentially a “shadow government” duplicating and replacing the intended functions of existing agencies. They were unmistakably created to evade the Constitutional, normal, legal oversight of the Congress; and they clearly exist because Congress and the current President have reached an accommodation.
18) Demanded: Republicans will make it illegal for any political party to enlist by means of contract, enrollment into the party as a member, or for any consideration, the aid of the members of NGOs, unions, Acorn, or any other such group to act as enforcers and street fighters to repress opposition views at any and all public meetings, whether held in private or public buildings, whether on federal property or not.
19) Demanded: Republicans will not arm any civilian entity with either small arms, or or weapons systems comparable to any of those of the existing armed forces, to act as a federal police force beyond the jurisdiction of American courts.
20) Demanded: Republicans will not federalize existing municipal or state police forces and elevate them beyond the jurisdiction of American courts.
21) Demanded: Republicans will repudiate and rescind Executive Order 245, and will not enact any similar action giving away American Sovereignty.
22) Demanded: Republicans will not encourage citizens to report the normal discussions, questions, doubts, etc. as expressed by fellow citizens about the Administration as if it were a criminal activity to be saved to an “enemies list.” Such activity will not be encouraged; and such a list will not be saved.
23) Demanded: Republicans will not at any time regard the Bill of Rights as an impediment to it’s agenda. Republican Representatives will respect and enforce the rules, prerogatives, and traditions of Congress: and Republican Presidents will respect and enforce the rules, prerogatives, and traditions of the Presidency.
24) Demanded: Republican Congressional representatives will not ignore activities of either the Executive or the Judicial branch that encroach on or that seek to escape the Constitutional powers granted exclusively to Congress. Republican representatives will not disregard the traditional, legal procedures of their respective houses.
a) Demanded: Republican Presidents will not ignore activities of either the Congress or the Judicial branch that encroach on or that seek to escape the Constitutional powers granted exclusively to the Executive; and neither will he rule by executive order, nor will he appoint Cabinet officers or Czars with unenumerated powers in disregard of Constitutional restrictions in the obvious attempt to circumvent Congress.
b) Demanded: Republican Judges will not ignore activities of either the Executive or the Congressional branch that encroach on or that seek to escape the Constitutional powers granted exclusively to the Judicial branch. Republican Judges will not indulge in legislation from the bench.
25) Demanded: Republican Presidents will guarantee not to seek the occasion any irregularity – as for instance, a Recession, to declare that the nation is in a state of unprecedented emergency and to begin ruling by decree with Executive Orders.
26) Demanded: Republicans will not incorporate in the body of any proposed legislation a clause that:
c) that denies and makes illegal the effort of any subsequent Congressional session the right to repeal said law.
d) that denies and makes illegal the effort of any subsequent effort of the Courts to review the legality or reinterpret that law.
That’s it the result of my cogitation and concerns. We’ve got to get it back. I never dreamed the vast gulf that lies between the Democrats and ourselves. It had never occurred to me that the Democrat urge to force everyone else to live by the glorious precepts of their utopian visions; They’ve already laid plans this year to pass legislation by trickery; they conspired to use force in the form of SIEU enforcers this past summer; can any one doubt that guns are soon to be the next means of persuasion?
Best quote of the Coakley debacle:
Monday, January 18, 2010
“Why would you hand the keys to the car back to the same guys whose policies drove the economy into the ditch and then walked away from the scene of the accident?”
Massachusetts Democrat Party Bigwig with the Freudian slip of the century.
Wow!! So much GOOD stuff here today!Where are all the trolls? Are they hiding in their mommies’ basement waiting to see how the Brown/Coakley thing turns out? Maybe readying a volley of “I told you so”s if Coakley wins, and shrill squeals of horror and outrage if Brown wins… This is a crossroads, no doubt about it.
If they really do get a 70 percent turnout for this election, there are enough Democrats around Boston to pull it out for Martha.
I think the key for any “doubling down” strategy on Obama’s part will be the “main stream media,” which for years has streamed left. They were willing to destroy an industry worth tens of billions of dollars to get their way politically — and even see thousands of their less well connected colleagues lose their jobs. But are they willing to lose their own relevance? Will they want to stay in the O-bam-mobile as it backfires over the cliff?
The Boston Globe and the other “main stream/Left stream” media have an important role to play. They validate the message of the Democratic Party while maintaining the pose of impartiality. But it has gotten to the point where even the most casual reader plays “spot the bias.” By now the political left believes that it is the media’s duty to favor the left — and they now complain that it is not biased enough (which in their minds means they favor the insurance companies).
A Tom Friedman may support policies that cost his wife a big chunk of her fortune, but what if that support costs him a big chunk of his readership? And certainly the lesser lights of the MSM must ask themselves: do we want to be both poor and ignored? This after they bump into a former coworker who is still looking for a job. You see, that co-worker is waiting for a bus, not taking a cab…telling detail, that.
The Boston Globe this morning is using the DailyKos poll to show the race even at an absolute dead heat.
Intrade has Brown at 79.4 and Coakley at 26.6.
The Globe is owned by the NYT.
The only people that Barack wants to fight and defeat are the American people.
“Governance will probably be a low priority in the coming year.”
That’s good. How can we extend it for several more years?
Obama is in a league of his own when it comes to making vacuous speeches and demagoguing George Bush. He can also be very charming when he is the recipient of unquestioning adulation. Does he have any other presidential skills?
At some point the media will start to examine his devastating far left agenda. His ability to continue to wreak havoc on the American economy is going to be severely curtailed. The more he doubles down the sooner that day will come.
So Barack, please double down. I do hope Obama continues to blame the banking crisis on the Republicans. It may yet cause the Republicans to fight back. Jamie Gorelick may yet become a household name and the pin up girl epitomizing Democrat incompetence and corruption.
If the Democrats can get close enough to throw the election into doubt and force recounts, the interim Senator remains in office and health care can be rammed through (the House can just accept the Senate bill with no debate). That’s their only option right now, so gravediggers are working overtime in MA to “get out the vote”.
Chris Matthews looks as if his parents were just killed in a horrible car crash.
Obama donned an apron yesterday. That’s a good look for our first female president as he tries to forget there’s a war on terrorism.
Meanwhile even Chile returns to the right; a conservative billionaire entreprenuer defeats the ruling leftist coalition.
It’s not surprising at all that Obama is taking this path, even though it is guaranteed to lead to absolute electoral disaster in the fall. He and his advisors have decided that if he takes a centrist route he is going to infuriate his base so much that he will be finished politically. So, just like you-know-who in the bunker, Obama, Axelrod, Reid, Pelosi, and Emmanuel have decided that if they are going down, they are going to take the entire party down with them. In that, I think they will succeed. There’s no one associated with the Democrat Party who has the power to stop them anymore.
That’s the problem with letting radicals take over every lever of power with no checks or balances on them – when they go bad, the entire organization fails.
There’s another factor in their decision that may be just as important – Obama and his two most important advisors, Axelrod and Emmanuel, have *never* known how to truly govern. That’s been behind all the uncomfortableness of the last year, where Obama has basically abdicated any true leadership and simply farmed out all of the policy decisions to Holder, Reid, and Pelois. Obama and Axelrod had no idea what to do with power, so they fiddled around and let those who had strong ideas (Reid, Holder, and Pelosi) do whatever they wanted. What Axelrod wanted, *needed*, was somebody to fight against, some enemy to point to and go negative on. That’s been behind all the attempts to scapegoat Palin, or Limbaugh, or Fox News, or anyone they think is in opposition. They are desperate for a strong, identifiable enemy because that is the only thing they know how to do, and it is the only thing that can give them some kind of focus.
It is a simplistic and deeply destructive view of the world, and no one can possibly govern effectively this way. (See Hugo Chavez for a good example of this in action.) And I don’t think Obama will ever be like that, because even if he wanted to, it’s already too late. Now, the more he attacks the more he drives independants away and the worse his election chances get.
I don’t think that taking back the Senate in the fall is a realistic goal for the GOP *yet* – but if Obama takes this line and sticks to it for the next 6 months, it will be.
And just for fun, a clip that I anticipate playing a lot tonight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfBx3EvDTEI&feature=related
Invite your neighbors! Crank it Loud!!!
Wretchard, I agree in large part with everything you say, but…I am very, very, sad these days.
Here is why:
1)I agree wholeheartedly that there is going to be a double down in the face of the mounting tidal shift…mostly coming from GDI’s.
However, the Republicans are disorganized, asleep at the switch, have no galvanizing figure to line up behind, clumsy, marble-mouthed, and generally hapless and feckless as the voice of opposition to the hard left occupation of our culture.
The voice of the opposition to rampant, unchecked leftism has brilliance and strength in the lions of Pure Media like yourself, Andrew Breitbart, Bill Whittle, Roger Simon and PJM, Pat Frey, Hugh Hewitt, National Review Online, Victor Davis Hanson etc. But it has Harpo Marx as its political voice. They are being led by Rommel, we have McClellan.
2)With all three Houses…Pelosi, Reid and this administration have shown absolutely no hesitation to imposing “ambush legislation” on this country. Crammed down the throats of the populace in the dark of night, or rushed by so quickly…like a disclaimer on a TV ad…where the words are an indistinguishable slurry. No time to read, much less reflect on the wisdom of them.
The people are riding through a very narrow pass and upon every crag, behind every rock…they are lying in wait.
3)You are a jewel in the sand, wretchard. This site is a stroke of master’s genius. But, I am afraid that the diseased and polluted information stream is so infected, we have a sepsis in our body politic that cannot be eradicated.
We cannot self-govern this land of ours based upon a pack of lies and distortion.
And if…or more likely…when…this administration and the two Houses of our “leaders” double down, it will be on the Pass or Don’t Pass line. That is, legislation will be passed that will make a permanent class division and will seek and destroy…a our “governance” will become a ruling elite for SOME of the people. And we will be fed a string of lies, distortion and propaganda…while it is taking place.
The lions of Pure Media are laying down the Maginot Line to stem the tide of lies and distortion, but we lack a political arm to take the battle for truth…and we lack a political leader to galvanize behind. We are fractured and they have the weapons to keep it that way.
The GDI’s WILL shift toward the truth. Always.
But there is nobody at the helm, our voices are strangled, and the truth is buried beneath a mountain of well scripted lies.
If we don’t understand that the FIRST order of business is to recapture the truth, we don’t stand a chance. That’s what I believe, wretchard. We are riding single file through a pass…and they are doubling down on the Don’t Pass.
Do we fight together…or run for cover?
LOTM
sorry we just gave Mayotte its french nationality, and nowadays muslims are much priced as labor force (yes the majority works)than vaudou zombies
Besides your country showed much more interest of monitoring Haiti than we could ever dream of, also as a resort island, we don’t need it, we have Martinique and Guadeloupe, so keep the good job !
Early reports show the polls pretty crowded, but the Mass Sec of State predicting only “50 plus percent” turnout. Not enough I think for Coakley.
Meanwhile, turncoat swine Arlen Spector has his staffers making get out the vote calls for the Dems. That bum has got to be on the next target list. Hopefully, he just drops dead in the next few days. It will be difficult to find a patch of earth that will receive his emaciated corpse without vomiting it back up.
Keith Olberman continues his tradition of making reasoned, sober comments with this gem: In Scott Brown we have an irresponsible, homophobic, racist, reactionary, ex-nude model, teabagging supporter of violence against woman and against politicians with whom he disagrees.
The only thing missing was the tag: Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Coakley is making a final bid for female voters in the state. This tactic is reportedly derived, to quote Coakley, “from some guy named Whiskey on some blog somwhere. I believe he is also a Yankee fan.”
Finally, Curt Shilling is the only Red Sox I could ever love.
Teresita
“and France accuses the US of occupying Haiti.”
BS, Chavez did
“Mr Kouchner warned governments and aid groups not to squabble as they try to get their aid into Haiti.
“People always want it to be their plane … that lands,” Mr Kouchner said on Monday. “(But) what’s important is the fate of the Haitians.”
In another weekend incident, some 250 Americans were flown to New Jersey’s McGuire Air Force Base on three military planes from Haiti. US forces initially blocked French and Canadians nationals from boarding the planes, but the cordon was lifted after protests from French and Canadian officials.
The US military controls the Port-au-Prince airport where only one runway is functioning and has been effectively running aid operations. However, the United Nations has stepped forward to take the lead in the critical task of co-ordinating aid.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/haiti/7020093/Haiti-earthquake-France-criticises-US-occupation.html
though it’s a pleasure for me to remind you a former psot of mines
15/01
on TV, I saw a french woman pilot that was forbidden to land on Port au Prince airport (by the Americans, cuz there is a concurrence of “helps” now)forcing the deny and managing to land (uh, say, french women have some strong character)
so there were some evident good will to not allowed other nations but the Americans’ to be the main rescuer on TV screens for global advertizing. Which country hasn’t seen Clinton on the ruins distrbuting some food packs ? I believe, only the Zoulous !
Salt Lick @ 49,
“Millions see Obama as the charms of Haiti and Africa come to America.”
Agreed. I’m one of those millions. Just one trait of Haitian culture is its witchy Voodoo religion. And voodoo spells, shrill curses and mystic hexes are rampant in Obama’s oratory fronts.
So, “The old grizzled women, one eye white with cataract, reached out a cold boney finger and, quickly grazing his cheek with her yellowed finger nail, she murmured a faint curse on her fetid breath. Two days later, the young student’s girlfriend died in a car accident.”
Cause and effect? Or just post hoc ergo propter hoc? An empiricist would laugh at the first. Our “educated” postmodernist, fresh from his second “Avatar” screening, could not conceive of the second. Either way, to both the practitioner of voodoo and the victim alike, the suggestion is that the young man was “cursed”. And, if he falters in his self-esteem, or if he doubts his history (due, perhaps, to his being deprived of it in his education), he will fall prey to the crone’s witchinig power, and every tragedy that befalls him will be another “chicken coming home to roost.”
Who wins with voodoo? Why, it’s the cunning, blind crone with the gangrenous breath who gains. To the cowed and the fearful, just one look from her could kill your crops or cause your wife to miscarry. The accursed, well…they lose. And that’s how Voodoo works.
But, looking back at Obama’s Voodoo visage: judging from his reverend’s serial “damning” of America, and from his overseas backers’ refrains hinting at “payback” for American “racism;” and from his energy secretary’s scolds, and from the righteous calls for expiation from the Gaia brigades, and even judging from “esteemed” African “elder,” Nelson Mandela’s “death-to-the-bald-heads” rite…judging from this entire, potent witches brew of voodoo curses, it’s no wonder “millions” wonder whether President Obama isn’t one of them.
He doesn’t wear a bone in his nose, and he doesn’t wear his fetishes around his neck, but he’s got voodoo written all over him.
I think its great.
let the pResident double down on stupid.
my greatest warmest hope is he will show his radical intransigent leftest self.
he is the divider not the uniter he lied about being and he is incapable of being the moderate politically savvy pol that clinton was.
this guy would rather burn down the country than move to the center and we will finally see the face beneath the mask
Oh goodie! I hope Obama doubles down on a losing strategy. And they were worried about Hillary destroying the Democratic Party. No, he is doing a much better job. In time, the party will recover and my guess is he will not. When the adoring crowds leave him, it will not be pretty. So please, double down and show people who you really are.
Everyone proclaimed Obama to be a great intellectual. I said he was a ROBOT. In other words, his actions are programmed into his brain and he cannot make the transition to alter his responses to REALITY. Many may not like the truth be here it is: he has a form of madness. I believe him to be emotionally unstable to our great peril and if MA is won by the Brown vote, we will begin to witness the decomposition of Obama. David Horowitz is a great intellectual. Take a look at his early years and how he was “trained” to respond to the world. He had an epiphany because the man has a gigantic intellectual capacity for such an undertaking. Obama has a pygmy intellect and it is encased in a hard shell of envy, bitterness, spitefulness, resentment, megalomania, nuclear racial hatreds, insecurity, and hatred. We have much to fear in the coming year. If we are successful in MA we can briefly thank the Lord, then hunker down for the onslaught to come.
Cfbleachers and others – you’re of course correct that the GOP is weak and rather rudderless at the time, but don’t make the very human mistake of greatly overestimating your enemies. See the biblical story of Joshua and Caleb for the first recorded instance of this – Joshua and Caleb had faith, and said “we can whip ‘em!” but the others felt that “there were giants in the land, and we were like grasshoppers in their sight.” The price of that failure of will and faith was 40 more years in the wilderness – a good lesson to keep in mind.
Maybe the GOP *is* being led by Harpo Marx, but even so, the Democrats are being led by Zeppo. (same thing but a lot more glib) You think that they got to this point by actually having any understanding as to what they were doing? HA!!!
We are fighting morons, fools, and delusional schizophrenics with delusions of grandeur here, but nothing more! They CAN be defeated!!!
Also, it’s not a *bad* thing that the GOP got cleaned out and there aren’t a lot of old established names – Denny Hastert and his crowd were some of the most clueless clowns I have ever seen in politics. It hurts just after all the deadwood’s been gathered up and burned, but it’s a Good Thing for it to have happened.
My hopes will be based not on the past, but on the Class of 2010. Out with ALL of the old, on both sides – in with the New!
And in the meantime lift up your hearts, be of good cheer, and sing!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfBx3EvDTEI&feature=related
80. cfbleachers
I agree with much of what you say. What happened?
The US lost it’s homogeneity, became a nation of dispirit tribes uninterested in assimilating into the traditional American culture, insisting on maintain their old country ways but now filled with welfare goodies.
The consequences of that are now we have become a sewer of Euro/Asian/third world trash. The upside is they all, or mostly, vote for Socialist Democrats. That is if you consider that an upside. I consider the Socialist Democrats as dangerous an adversary the Chi-Coms or the Soviets.
The Republicans are better but don’t seem to know how to wield power sufficient for the task of eradicating the trash in this country. Open borders, motor–voter, free healthcare, anchor babies … the list is one composed by the Socialist Democrats and it is endless in dismantling the traditions of this country while diluting the legitimate power of the honest citizenry. I have been saying for over five years, and I know some on this site can verify that statement should they care to, it will take a bullets not ballots remedy the problems we have in the USA.
The Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto have now all been fulfilled in the USA thanks to the Socialist Democrats….. just read it an weep.
In 1848 Karl Marx and Frederick Engels wrote a book outlining a political ideology, titled “The Communist Manifesto”. Marxism’s basic theme is that the proletariat (the “exploited” working class of a capitalistic society) will suffer from alienation and will rise up against the “bourgeoisie” (the middle class) and overthrow the system of “capitalism.” After a brief period of rule by “the dictatorship of the proletariat” the classless society of communism would emerge. In his Manifesto Marx described the following ten steps as necessary steps to be taken to destroy a free enterprise society!! Notice how many of these conditions, foreign to the principles that America was founded upon, have now, in 1997, been realized by the concerted efforts of socialist activists? Remember, government interference in your daily life and business is intrusion and deprivation of our liberties !
First Plank: Abolition of property in land and the application of all rents of land to public purposes. (Zoning – Model ordinances proposed by Secretary of Commerce Herbert Hoover widely adopted. Supreme Court ruled “zoning” to be “constitutional” in 1921. Private owners of property required to get permission from government relative to the use of their property. Federally owned lands are leased for grazing, mining, timber usages, the fees being paid into the U.S. Treasury.)
Second Plank: A heavy progressive or graduated incometax. (Corporate Tax Act of 1909. The 16th Amendment, allegedly ratified in 1913. The Revenue Act of 1913, section 2, Income Tax. These laws have been purposely misapplied against American citizens to this day.)
Third Plank: Abolition of all rights of inheritance. (Partially accomplished by enactment of various state and federal “estate tax” laws taxing the “privilege” of transfering property after death and gift before death.)
Fourth Plank: CONFISCATION OF THE PROPERTY OF ALL EMIGRANTS AND REBELS. (The confiscation of property and persecution of those critical – “rebels” – of government policies and actions, frequently accomplished by prosecuting them in a courtroom drama on charges of violations of non-existing administrative or regulatory laws.)
Fifth Plank: Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. (The Federal Reserve Bank, 1913- -the system of privately-owned Federal Reserve banks which maintain a monopoly on the valueless debt “money” in circulation.)
Sixth Plank: Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State. (Federal Radio Commission, 1927; Federal Communications Commission, 1934; Air Commerce Act of 1926; Civil Aeronautics Act of 1938; Federal Aviation Agency, 1958; becoming part of the Department of Transportation in 1966; Federal Highway Act of 1916 (federal funds made available to States for highway construction); Interstate Highway System, 1944 (funding began 1956); Interstate Commerce Commission given authority by Congress to regulate trucking and carriers on inland waterways, 1935-40; Department of Transportation, 1966.)
Seventh Plank: Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. (Depart-ment of Agriculture, 1862; Agriculture Adjustment Act of 1933 — farmers will receive government aid if and only if they relinquish control of farming activities; Tennessee Valley Authority, 1933 with the Hoover Dam completed in 1936.)
Eighth Plank: Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies especially for agriculture. (First labor unions, known as federations, appeared in 1820. National Labor Union established 1866. American Federation of Labor established 1886. Interstate Commerce Act of 1887 placed railways under federal regulation. Department of Labor, 1913. Labor-management negotiations sanctioned under Railway Labor Act of 1926. Civil Works Administration, 1933. National Labor Relations Act of 1935, stated purpose to free inter-state commerce from disruptive strikes by eliminating the cause of the strike. Works Progress Administration 1935. Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938, mandated 40-hour work week and time-and-a-half for overtime, set “minimum wage” scale. Civil Rights Act of 1964, effectively the equal liability of all to labor.)
Ninth Plank: Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries, gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country. (Food processing companies, with the co-operation of the Farmers Home Administration foreclosures, are buying up farms and creating “conglomerates.”)
Tenth Plank: Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production. (Gradual shift from private education to publicly funded began in the Northern States, early 1800′s. 1887: federal money (unconstitutionally) began funding specialized education. Smith-Lever Act of 1914, vocational education; Smith-Hughes Act of 1917 and other relief acts of the 1930′s. Federal school lunch program of 1935; National School Lunch Act of 1946. National Defense Education Act of 1958, a reaction to Russia’s Sputnik satellite demonstration, provided grants to education’s specialties. Federal school aid law passed, 1965, greatly enlarged federal role in education, “head-start” programs, textbooks, library books.
(Research source: Encyclopedia Britannica.)
I want to see Brown actually drive/caravan his pickup truck down to washington if he wins.
the physical act of driving that pickup to washington and the spectacle of it like a legion crossing the danube, would make the anti obama leftist momentum a tidal wave.
the concreteness of him entering washington in his pickup would be politically one of the biggest events in 20 years
President Barack Obama plans a combative response…Governance will probably be a low priority in the coming year. The fundamental theme of 2010 will be a struggle for power.
There is nobody more combative than Barack Obama’s immediate circle of surrogates and handlers, Rahm Emanuel, David Axelrod, Valerie Jarrett etc.
Combativeness, in combination with spin, are the essence of the soul of the Chicago Way & these individuals are poster children for the mindset.
Their focus, as usual, will be the maintenance and enhancement of their own personal power, combined with continuing to blame the previous administration, the country will continue to suffer.
If their President is handed a Copenhagen 3 today in the outcome of the Massachusetts Senate race, the response will,indeed, be to double down and entrench even more deeply.
They’re incapable of actual governance.
I don’t really bemoan the absence of some single, galvanizing opposition (Republican) figure as some writers here appear to do. The movement against the current cabal in DC seems massive to me, near tidal wave proportions.
I’m more of the “If you build it, they will come” mentality, and each one of these losses…NJ, VA, MA (?)…is a stick in the eye of the self-serving power mongering socialists in DC. Nov 2010 could be the biggest stick of all.
Obama, Axelrod, and the rest of the trash in Washington, just don’t get it. It’s not the Republicans they have to defeat, it’s the American people, and we outnumber them. We’re coming for you in November Obama, Axelrod, Emanuel, Reid, and Pelosi.
We aren’t going to stop until everyone of you communist liars are removed!
Saturday morning I was talking to a retired autoworker who had gone to a union meeting the day before. He said they got the news that the “Cadillac Health Care Tax” won’t apply to them. I said, “Ain’t it good to know they are going to screw everyone else but not you?” He then said that indeed it was, and proceeded to make a derogatory remark about our Current President (who he voted for).
Is this what the Democratic Party’s message is being reduced to? “We’ll screw our supporters less — and promise to enjoy screwing everyone else more?”
Early in the Obama Administration the Democrat Political operatives told us: if you are not at the table you are on the menu. They were true to their word. Now a lot of Americans who did not get an invite to the banquet see their names on the list of appetizers — and there, on the list of deserts, their grandchildren.
BTW, the double down approach may not carry an “autoworker” exception for that tax. Back on the menu with you!
I think that the #79 wws analysis of the Democrats political strategy is about as concise and cogent as I’ve seen. It squares perfectly with the behavior that we’ve seen over the past several months and years.
They are desperate for a strong, identifiable enemy because that is the only thing they know how to do, and it is the only thing that can give them some kind of focus.
The good news is that while the GOP seems totally incapable of countering the spin that the great unwashed have rejected it big time. It’s still a two party system but it seems likely that we are going to see many more Republicans (and maybe even a few Democrats) in name only with no allegiance or payback obligations to the national parties.
I’m from MA and voted earlier today for Brown. This election is not only a referendum upon a lackluster candidate but also upon Obama, Pelosi & Reid.
Most people have now been exposed to the tyranny of one-part-rule. Plus, the internet has exposed the background of Barry Soetoro. No amount of voter fraud can reverse the overwhelming will of the voters.
The number of abstentee ballots for this election has been unprecedented. The voting at 11:00 a.m. has been huge. Massachusetts will rightfully take its place as the cradle of liberty once again.
All other American patriots must make their stand. Just one year into this usurper’s administration and he has been exposed as a fraud by the most liberal State of the Union.
Agree with some of the most recent posters, the real opponents of Obama and his team are the American people. Many people have been “keeping their powder dry” and will band together to support truck drivers and regular folks everywhere. The other party has made the mistake before too, Americans are not going to allow anyone to RULE.
Marie Claude @ 83 I see the ignorant comment that equated France with Venezuela. Par for the course now that The Shadow of the Neo-Evil Empire is supposedly descending across Ukraine. And the 2,000 Georgian dudes from charter flights between the ages of 25 and 45 who showed up for the election last weekend? They were there to meet their girlfriends from oklasniki (Russian/Ukrainian Facebook
Well, some of them were supposedly roughed up and others sent packing on visa violations.
You are right that there are plenty of Ukrainians who don’t consider themselves to be Russian. But there are quite a few in the eastern part of the country who do. If Yuschneko-ites had continued to push their stupid policy of antagonizing those people by decorating Banderisti the result eventually would have been partition – of the Serbia and Montenegro kind ideally, God forbid the Bosnia-Rep Srbska kind.
It’s all moot. Like many others, I will be voting for Marcia in Massachusettes! Scott Brown won’t be allowed to win. ACORN will prevail! (j/k)
OTOH Obama’s “double down” noises may come to no more than his “close Gitmo” noises.
Remember, Obamba H. Barracuda his own self is only about speechifying. Actual policy seem to come 99.44% from Emmanuel, Gates, Geithner, and the like.
Who might double down are actually Pelosi and Reid, neither of whom has the brains God gave the cockroach, nor the morality either. If Brown wins and they put the bill through on reconciliation, or the like, it’s they that will do it, even if Obambus signs the results.
In terms of the future of the GOP in a “double down” scenario, I would submit the following (highly optimistic) analysis.
To be a conservative means: Free economy, private property, low taxes, school prayer, abortion limits, drug war, christian culture.
From that definition we then have “moderate conservatives”. This can take one of two forms:
1) Free economy, private property, low taxes, social freedom.
2) Moderate socialism, school prayer, abortion limits, drug war, christian culture.
Notice that while each of those two groups are “moderate”, they disagree with each other on everything. It is therefor tough to keep them together, especially when the right seems popular and they feel powerful.
Clearly, Obama is pushing the socialist button as hard as he can. The population will react. Their reaction will be anti-socialist. The Republicans will attempt to find an electoral majority by going down a specific path. Given the direction of Obama and given the reaction, the Republican path will more or less look like moderate choice #1:
1) Free economy, private property, low taxes, social freedom.
IE, the new Republican direction will be mildly libertarian, assuming that’s not a contradiction in terms.
I find this an optimistic scenario, as it can’t be used to create a destructive society. Also, it appears moderate, while still being somewhat radical – pleasing too groups at once.
Of course, this strategy may not work. It also may not be the road the Republicans take. But it currently looks the path of least resistance, and also a path that may work.
Is my optimism misplaced?
James
A Haiku…
Obama has failed
The worst President ever
Jimmy Carter smiles!
there are no honorable Democrats in DC
the question is will they be ruled by fear or greed?
Fear of losing their house/senate seat
vs
Greed for the promised rewards (Univ Presidencies, Ambasadorships, think tank jobs, jobs in the ever expanding federal gov… and old fashioned bribes)
even with his limited intellect, Obama knows he will be a lame duck after 2010. He hates the blue dogs more than he hates republicans and is happy to sacrifice them for the dreams of his coffe shop marxism.
Blame Bush! Hey it worked once and Americans are stupid, aren’t they?
To me the whole problem comes to this: if they’re going to bet the farm, how far are they willing to go to win?
Depends on how dangerous you consider this current bunch.
As the Democrat collapse proceeds, and becomes more and more obvious to one and all, I am wondering who the first brave left-leaning pundit will be to post a widely quoted article honestly appraising the collapse. It will happen; but who will make the first call on the Dem BS machine?
Jamie Irons
Re-defeat Communism in 2010!
James, I believe your optimisim is NOT displaced, and to so many others – why so much gloom? Don’t allow the opposition to crush all the joy from your lives. Yes, troubles will be with us always, but today is a great day! Rejoice!!!
“Early exit polls in the Gardner, Fitchburg and Peabody areas show Brown leading by 14, 17, and 15% points. While too early to call a lock similar continued results by 2 – 3pm should confirm the loss by Martha Coakley.”
keep watching tonight –
Could it be? Yes, it could.
Something’s coming, something good,
If I can wait!
Something’s coming, I don’t know what it is,
But it is
Gonna be great!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu7sRdRrm_w&feature=related
The Narcissist-in-Chief is expected to double down & play harder; he will not relent until ObamaCare passes, although he may destroy the Democratic Party as a result of his foolish arrogance. Let him double down. Obama will get hit back with equal force in opposition–among his fellow Democrats.
Without ObamaCare, the POTUS State of the Union could only be a 5 minute speech, but Obama will turn 5 minutes into a hour or more.
silence @ 96: No amount of voter fraud can reverse the overwhelming will of the voters. The number of abstentee ballots for this election has been unprecedented.
Your second statement endangers the first. Indeed, the absentee ballot requests have been overwhelming, but this may indicate precisely that a huge fraud initiative is in the works. Absentee ballots are the preferred means of stealing elections. You gin up a giant pile of Coakley ballots signed by Mick E. Mouse and Don Duck, or any number of countless dead folk or illegals. You hand them to a compliant Dem judge (is there any other kind in Massachusetts?) who insists they get counted, lest we “disenfranchise” any voters, be they living, dead or fictional. “Disenfranchise” is one of those great Leftist words that sweeps all challenges before it, and it works every time.
They can “find” as many absentee ballots as they need, even if those ballots add up to 115% of the population of whatever town they are said to represent. Precisely this has happened before.
And finally, isn’t the final word on election legality declared by the state Attorney General? And that would be… one Martha Coakley.
It won’t be over till it’s over. And that could take a long, long time.
How close is the Dominican Republic to “The Island Nation of Hati?” It is on the same Island. While the Dominican Republic is not exactly a thriving world class economy, compared to Hati it is.
It could be argued that the decade of money poured into Hati made the corruption worse and b with UN involvement it was an even more spectacular. The tragedy of the NOW can be addressed, but you will still be able to buy a slave child for housework there after the medics and the military leaves. Before the earthquake aid workers who had seen the world called Hati a hell worse than any African nation you could name.
A brilliant, accurate analysis. I concur. Keep it up.
Obama follows a well-known strategy of Bolsheviks: all falures of his policies would be ascribed to “saboteurs and wreakers”. The trouble is that such strategy requires at some stage using actual physical terror against opposition. I doubt that American people can be terrorized as easy and will not respond to attempts to impose tyranny by using the second amendment rights to their constitutional goal of rebellion against such attempts. He wants a civil war? He can get it!
David Axelrod is a communist. Obama is just the face these guys show us and the voice they want us to hear.
I no longer have the link but a study done October 28, 2009 shows that MA has about 116,000 dead people and about 500,000 whose addresses do not match up with other public records on the voting rolls.
The real ignominy of the current political landscape is how casually election fraud is expected and accepted by almost everybody.
96. silence do good:
“I’m from MA and voted earlier today for Brown. … The number of abstentee ballots for this election has been unprecedented.”
That’s it, then. Coakley comes from behind and wins going away as the absentee ballots are counted.
And press secretary Robert Gibbs said a key theme of 2010 will be asking voters “whether the people they have in Washington are on the side of protecting the big banks, whether they’re on the side of protecting the big oil companies, whether they’re on the side of protecting insurance companies or whether they’re on the people’s side.”
This strategy is contingent on the public being completely unaware of the the cozy relationship between the Dems and Wall Street. Once, the MSM could have kept the public in darkness. I don’t think they can do it now though.
I predict that if Brown wins, the Obama admin will go silent on domestic issues for quite a while and find a convenient diversion for the media in non domestic efforts. I don’t think haiti is going to be sufficient. Maybe some saber rattling with Iran or N Korea.
On a brighter front, Im wondering if Hillary will sense blood in the water and jump ship to emerge as the centrist savior of the dems….
wws @ 108: where are you getting exit poll data? I can’t find any.
For 2010 think 1894 and 1946. Two mid-term elections that the media doesn’t discuss. And for good reason. In 1894 the Democrats lost 116, I repeat, 116 House seats and 5 Senate seats. Talk about an electoral bloodbath. So there is your benchmark. Since the Civil War there have been 14 midterm elections in which over 40 seats have changed hands in the House, and of those five saw a +70 seat swing (1938 was the last time for one of these). So there is no reason to think that 2010 could not see control of House revert back to the Republicans. Yes, the media will discount this possibility and ignore history. The historical average for midterm elections is that the President’s party loses 34 seats in the House. History also shows that the voters can unleash their fury on both parties in short order. In 1890 the Republicans lost 85 seats. Then four years later the voters turned their ire on the Democrats, tossing 116 of them out of the House. That was toward the end of the Long Depression (1873-1896) and voters were mighty mad to say the least.
1946? That midterm saw the loss of 12 Senate seats and 55 House seats for the Democrats under Truman. The Senate doesn’t see huge swings during the midterms like the House. A 3 seat loss for the President’s party is the historical norm. There have been 17 midterms in which 5 seats or more have been lost by the President’s party, and of these five saw losses of 9 or more seats (1994 was the last time). 13 is the all time high loss; 1958 under Ike. As much as I’d like to see it, I doubt the Senate is going to flip. This year.
So a 1946 style midterm would see the Republicans in control of both Houses. A 1894 one would find the Senate still in control of the Democrats but they would be shell-shocked by the rout in the House. I vote for a 1894 version for 2010. I want to see the House Republicans passing reform bills right and left that the Democrats in the Senate wouldn’t act on and then the blame game changes. Come 2012 the voters will have a clear choice which party is the party of reform and which one isn’t.
Obama and the Democrat leadership are modern era fascists. The arrogance of this bunch will come back and destroy them. The American people are NOT socialists and we do NOT want our lives micromanaged by a bunch of self-appointed, arrogant, ignorant, elitists who believe We the People are unable to take care of ourselves.
Force this down our throats at your own peril.
“And press secretary Robert Gibbs said a key theme of 2010 will be asking voters “whether the people they have in Washington are on the side of protecting the big banks, whether they’re on the side of protecting the big oil companies, whether they’re on the side of protecting insurance companies or whether they’re on the people’s side.”
what about “whether they’re on the side of big labor unions”
Oh, wait. The dems aren’t just on the labor union side. They’re in the labor union’s pockets and wrapped around the labor union’s fingers.
baal,
Concur about Hillary.
Regarding Absentee Ballots, disqualifying them was a key Democratic tactic in 2006-2009. Their strategy was to suppress the military vote.
Interestingly, the Intrade numbers on Scott Brown have dropped from 79+ this morning to about 67.5 right now. This is not a done deal.
Obama’s “punch back twice as hard” modus operandi may be appropriate for a community organizer, but it’s no way to govern the country. (it actually didn’t work that well for community organizing either).
Jumped too soon on the exit polls – AJStrata’s just learned that apparently that was just a trick to drive up web traffic to a certain now to be nameless site.
rassin’frassing @!!$%**! Always a joker or two ready to crash any party.
But it still looks good for Brown.
James W. Ceasar has a great article in this week’s Weekly Standard, it’s the cover story, about how in 2008 Obama became the embodiment of Comte’s ‘Religion of Humanity.’
Well worth a look as to what happened in that bizarre year, and how that story is and may continue to play out.
Whatever the outcome of the Massachusetts Senate race (I donated a few dollars to his campaign and I don’t ordinarily donate money to politicians; but I will in the future to Conservative Candidates like Brown) it is clear that Obama is PICKING A FIGHT WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
The Marxist in the White House is going to lose. All we have to do is continue to pull the veil from the Socialist Conspiracy going on in our Government. My wish is to DESTROY politicians who are killing our Nation and have no respect for America, our Declaration of Independence, our Constitution and our unique history.
God Bless America! The American People are going to win. But you all have to become involved. It is not a time to sit on the sidelines.
BARACK OBAMA AND THE “CURSE” OF THE KENNEDYS
When Caroline Kennedy believed that she heard the voice of her father in the words of Barack Obama and anointed him the “new JFK” with her uncle Ted and 15 family members Obama’s fate was sealed: The ” Kennedy Curse” was upon him.
Google ApolloSpeaks (one word) and read my small new blogbook: Barack Obama and the “Curse” of the Kennedys.
Simply started with the first contributor and went through ten…too many to do them all..workout time..
The comments are great , the thread en fuego. And now;
1 Praying that the support for Scott Brown will be so emphatic as to put the fear of GOD into the lying bastards busy betraying this country.
2. Doubling down is easier when you are playing with Other People’s Money
3. It’s bad eI’m pnough to be a loser. It’s very unseemly and pitiful to be a loser and be doubling down using the family’s credit card.
4. Their Emperor demands the ultimate sacrifice
5. Your grandchildren will be Muslim.
6. TROLL ABATEMENT PROCEDURES NOW ADVISED
7. Sadly, I no longer see any limit on the use of every means Obama and his allies are willing to engage in.
8. The Left will fight dirty.
9. I’ll have to think about just how the Republicans need to address the budget deficit and national debt.
10. America may be the only (last?) alembic where the battle between a Soviet Obama statist Euro-style nightmare can be defeated by free people
And the long term transformation plans continue:
The American Red Cross says a plan to bring 45,000 evacuees from Haiti to Florida, and 4,000 of those to Orange County, is not set in stone.
Oh, not set in stone, that’s nice. Because perhaps it’s 145,000 instead.
The Brown election is but a bump on the road to our Communist future. Add a few hundred thousand Haitains, then legalize the illegals, and Florida is permanently voting Dem for president.
CFBleachers
I compared Obama to Rommel a few threads ago myself, but it wasn’t a compliment. I think Rommel was overrated, and called him a logistical ignoramus. He outran his own supply lines in a way that even a freshly commissioned Lieutenant could have predicted. Neither Rommel nor Obama seem to understand how the machines they are driving get their fuel, where the energy comes from. All they see is the army, not the infrastructure and hard work that allows it to exist. The Democrats will leave themselves open to defeat.
The real problem is, as you noted, the lack of Republican leadership. Good grief, what a useless bunch. I keep thinking back to the 1850s, the last time that a major political party proved utterly incapable of serving the voters. We could be facing such a change now, and see the first new major political party in over a century and a half.
Of course, the last time that happened it was immediately followed by the bloodiest war we’ve ever fought. Oh, joy.
hdgreene
Yeah, that’s the point the Wretchard is stressing. The Dems cannot keep using the same buy-off strategy because there’s no money. So far, what they’ve tried to do is promise everything to all of their constituent mercenary groups before the election, then sort of round-robin who gets screwed afterwards when they can’t deliver everything. It has worked up to now for two reasons, one of which is going away and the other which could go away with some smart moves by the GOP (yeah, right).
First, in the past they were able to give at least something to some of their interest groups, but now there’s not even enough money for that. TARP was the last refill of the pig trough, now it’s short rations for everyone.
Second, they keep telling these groups that it will be even worse under Republicans. They’ll push this line hard now, since it’s all they have left, other than vague promises to turn the spigot back on when the economy recovers.
Democrats looking for shards of hope in a grim week
Is this a news story or an editorial?
“Now everything that gets done in the Senate will have the imprimatur of bipartisanship,” another administration official said. “The benefits of that will accrue to the president and the Democratic Senate. It adds to the pressure on Republicans to participate in the process in a meaningful way, which so far they have refused to do.”
If this helps the Democrats, why would the Republicans do it? I sure hope the Republicans aren’t as stupid as this official thinks they are.
…in 2008 Obama became the embodiment of Comte’s ‘Religion of Humanity.’
“The confluence of the Religion of Humanity with the Obama campaign has every appearance of being a providential event.”
Obama’s religion of humanity is a pose. Historically, most all such sorts of political poseurs with claim to humanist impulses are as calculating and hypocritical as the day is long.
Besides which, it isn’t the job of the United States President to “care”. It is his job to protect and defend.
It’s sad that we’ve succumbed to such depths of analysis in this country that so many apparently believed Obama’s shtick.
If you want to know a man’s character, look at those with whom he surrounds himself, currently and throughout his career.
A true humanist is never such a self absorbed narcissist as Barack Obama.
They’re in the labor union’s pockets and wrapped around the labor union’s fingers.
It has been noted that Barack Obama works for the 2 million members of labor unions and not for the 300 million Americans. The recent dispensation granted Cadillac union “health plans” on taxes only serves to reinforce this understanding.
As an independent, I hate both parties right now, but for the country to survive, the Democratic “Scorched Earth” plan has got to end. They’ve been playing this game for way too long.
The GOP could win in 2010 starting with a reform agenda, similar to 1994.
To begin with, the GOP needs to do what Domino’s Pizza has done. Change their product, and admit to the public that their past product was crap. The GOP should produce a series of reforms, especially small reforms that have broad appeal, and be able to explain their governing philosophy. It will resonate with a lot of voters because most voters in this country are pretty conservative. What the Democrats will fight back with is an attack: you had your chance, and the deficit grew on your watch, and things got worse. Well, the GOP should get ahead of this by apologizing for their wasteful spending, for not sticking to their principles, and promising to do better.
The American people will have a choice: give the GOP another chance and re-establish a balance in government, or let radical democrats shovel the country further into the dung heap of history.
I suggest a simple reform to start is highlighted by the MA election: reform the US election laws along the lines of existing international procedures to identify legitimate voters, maintain valid voting rolls, identify valid voters, and ensure that each voter can only vote once. This will directly undermine the power of big city political machines. In the past, Democrats have embarrassed themselves attacking election reform. The GOP should continually ask for these reforms, and when Democrats vote to stop them, more angry mobs will appear at townhalls. Let’s see how many Democrats are willing to sacrifice themselves to save crocked elections.
I just got off the phone with relatives. Advanced degrees from Boston’s finest schools all, and they all voted for Coakley. No matter where the conversation starts, and I have decades of experience, it always end up the same place – big business is evil and “the people” are too stupid and too vulnerable to be left to their own devices.
That’s the liberal mindset and you can push on that string as hard as you want.
Brown has rallied back to 72.9 on Intrade but still below yesterday’s close at 77.
Here’s the scoop on absentee ballots. There are 105,000 of them out, representing 4.7 percent of the expected vote. In other words, Brown has to win by more than that to win. (HT: instapundit)
http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/american_studies/brown_has_to_beat_coakley.php
While I disagree with the administration’s ideology and policies, I support this approach. It is best for all politics in this country to be done with the highest possible degree of philosophical explicitness. That way the public/electoral response has the least likelihood of being blamed on non-philosophical factors. I am confident that Americans will react negatively to explicit socialism. And, if I am wrong, at least it will be clearer to me what kind of country I live in, which will better allow me to plan for my own (and my family’s) future.
Wasn’t that last year’s strategy?
It won’t matter what Obama plans – he is going to find all of his congresscritters spooked after this election. This election will make it clear that they have more to fear from their electorates than they do from going against Obama’s extreme (and tired) leftist ideology. After all, he cannot credibly threaten them all.
Brown just broke above yesterday’s close at 77.1 on Intrade. I take that as meaning that it is extremely likely that Brown will have more votes by the end of the day.
Whether it will be enough to overcome the boxes of absentee ballots that will start appearing tomorrow depends on the margin.
Unfortunately, any “conservative revolution” tends to founder on the same rock as always – those who see no use for the concept of separation of church and state. The movement gets perverted by the prayer-in-school and radical anti-abortion types, and dies. I don’t want the US to become a theocracy, even a basically Christian one, and won’t vote for any party working toward that goal.
The weaknesses of both parties lie on their fringes. The Republicans are subject to parasitic attack from fundamentalists. The Democrats are the prey of racists, socialists, eco-chondriacs, libertines, kleptocrats, and the basically power-mad.
Well, not quite–they can hardly have the absentees running 100% in Coakley’s favor.
You don’t know these people, do you?
I just got off the phone with relatives. Advanced degrees from Boston’s finest schools all, and they all voted for Coakley. No matter where the conversation starts, and I have decades of experience, it always end up the same place – big business is evil and “the people” are too stupid and too vulnerable to be left to their own devices.
Maybe you should point out to your relatives that the Democrats are the party of big business.
Bob Smith – there are a few Republicans who value ‘getting things done’ more than they value doing the right thing, and particularly in the Senate they are reluctant to stick in the knife. They look forward to a long career of mutual back-scratching, even if the fingernails are occasionally a little sharp.
We see that with ‘cap and trade’. The science is rigged, the economics disastrous for everyone but the carbon-trading rent-seekers, yet you’ve got a few GOPers who’d be happy to do a deal just to pay forward a favor or two from the opposition.
Tom, get a clue: there’s several million light years between being against easy abortion, and favoring a real live theocracy (which has never existed in America, not even in John Winthrop’s Massachusetts Bay Colony.)
If you run away at the sight of everyone a little more religious than yourself, then perhaps you’re the source of the divisiveness problem, not them.
Unfortunately, any “conservative revolution” tends to founder on the same rock as always – those who see no use for the concept of separation of church and state. The movement gets perverted by the prayer-in-school and radical anti-abortion types, and dies. I don’t want the US to become a theocracy
You don’t know what the word “theocracy” means.
And the phrase “separation of church and state” appears nowhere in the Constitution.
Marty (#127):
The Weekly Standard piece is superb; I think the author advances a much more useful analysis of what’s going on than viewing our problem as a simple Left vs. Right conflict…
Jamie Irons
Calvin,
Well, the ones I know (here in the Soviet of Washington, no less) may wish for such an outcome, eventually. But they are smart enough to know that kind of result right now would result in a little too much suspicion.
The Roots of Obama Worship, James W. Ceasar
Yes, I too saw this, excellent article, outstanding scholarship and writing. Extra points for anything going back to August Compte!
BUT, I wonder if it’s quite the whole story. I keep going back to the name, Barack Hussein Obama. Aren’t we really missing *something* when we recite an fine academic talk about the roots of idolatry, when the name on the idol is Barack Hussein Obama?
Many young men and women–golden boys and golden girls–through intelligence, talent, ambition, luck, and the support of family and teachers are annointed by a Harvard degree. Their future seems guaranteed. No obstacle will defeat them. Yet, quite often, somewhere along the line they meet defeat and never quite recover. They do not have the resilience of others who have lived less charmed lives.
Apart from the instability created by his father’s and mother’s abandonment of him as a child, Obama has lived a charmed life. Politically, he has never faced a soul tempering challenge. He has spent no time in the wilderness. Thus, although terribly intelligent, he lacks wisdom.
Because of his narcissistic, and perhaps socio-pathic, bent he must double down and bluff when faced with the prospect of defeat, however small. He is too brittle to absorb the lessons of defeat and be re-born. He would rather destroy many of his partisan supporters, the Democratic party, and the nation than be tempered by defeat. In his mind, they will each deserve destruction because they failed to protect, defend, and nurture the only thing that matters—Obama, himself.
A little failure early in life is a good thing. A little failure at mid-life can be completely devastating.
Let us hope that Obama will not insist we all go down with his ship.
Long live our Republic!
Its amazing how this article is so much about how “both” sides of the aisle may be viewing 2010. Will the right double down if they win MA? Will they double down if they lose MA? I guess this Massachussetts election is life and death for some. I dont see any revolutionary change from the outcome. However, it might be construed as a possible springboard for Republican campaign committees if Brown should win. They will need all the help they can get to make a comeback from the political abyss of 08. Who knows?
Good Luck to Them !!
#83 Marie Claude:
“and France accuses the US of occupying Haiti.”
BS, Chavez did
With all due respect, both made the accusation. It was the French Minister of Co-operation.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8468367.stm
France’s co-operation minister, Alain Joyandet, had suggested on Monday that the US was “occupying” Haiti and urged the UN to “clarify” the US role.
I note that elsewhere it is reported that Minister Joyandet got into a hand to hand scuffle with the personnel manning the air traffic control tower trying to force them to give priority to French flights.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/haiti/7020908/US-accused-of-occupying-Haiti-as-troops-flood-in.html
Alain Joyandet admitted he had been involved in a scuffle with a US commander in the airport’s control tower over the flight plan for a French evacuation flight.
You might object to my source being Brit media, but I figured that you would trust that more than American media. Just for the record, we tend to agree that the pictures of former president Clinton schlepping a couple of boxes of aid are both embarassing and ridiculous. His presence on the line interfered more with things than helped; as does the presence of any country’s politicians with their drones and entourages.
I don’t know the layout of Port au Prince airport, and if they in fact have more than one runway. Right now, they only have one runway operational. They have limited parking for aircraft on the ground to unload [I suspect that the hangerage and storage facilities were lost in the quake], and limited resources for unloading. Once things are unloaded, the roads into the city are fubar-ed; and the city is chaos. There is no functioning government, and aid has to be accompanied by security forces to prevent it being looted.
To be honest, I don’t think that any EU military units have experience in operating a high volume, high operating tempo airport in a very restricted space comparable to our Air Force personnel. The only other ones with comparable experience … are US Naval Aviation personnel.
US troops have to be the ones providing the security for the aid, because we are the only ones there in sufficient force to do so. Europeans will cut and run otherwise. I cite the Belgian medical team which abandoned a field hospital, and its several hundred patients [many post surgical] a couple of days ago because of reports of looting a few miles away. They took all of the medical supplies with them. I hate CNN, but I have to give them credit. They had a doctor who has been a reporter for them for years, and he, his camera crew, and one Haitian nurse stayed and took care of the patients until relieved by Americans the next morning.
Our “occupation” is the maintenance of security so the supplies can be delivered. You can’t have it both ways. If there is no security, there is no humanitarian aid. If we are providing the security, we get accused of “occupying” the place. Hell, the Spanish made the absurd claim that we had refused to give any aid until the Haitians ceded part of the country to us. I promise, the last thing we want to own any part of is the cesspool that is Haiti. Our first rescue flights of helicopters were there [Coast Guard] within a couple of hours from the quake. The delay was mostly flight time.
The airport is only an emergency access for aid to get in. You need the harbor to bring in enough to hope to help these people. The harbor is blocked. Cranes, shipping containers, and buildings have collapsed into the water alongside the unloading docks, preventing ships from tying up and unloading. Guess which Navy has the training, equipment, and experience to clear the harbor? And is not a month’s steaming away? The initial UN survey said it would take weeks to open the harbor. We will have it open and in limited operation tomorrow or the next day. I expect full operation in a few days to a week, depending on getting cranes operational and the ground transport up and running.
[update- The USCG bouy tender OAK has managed to get a small, damaged, pier open and is delivering supplies as of a few hours ago. The first dedicated relief vessel will be there in a few hours.]
There are more than a few Americans who would be willing to just load up all our people and equipment and come home and leave it all to the EU and UN, without our help. They think that they can do it better themselves, let them try. We won’t just come home though, because this administration intends to bring a significant part of the population of Haiti here
http://www.wftv.com/news/22242754/detail.html
and that means they will eventually be granted permanent resident status and citizenship, regardless of legal status, criminal records, and diseases. 45,000 is just the first wave.
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Oh, one other thought. Yes, Chavez did accuse us of “occupying Haiti”. Chavez has also just seized and nationalized the French owned chain of stores,”Exitos”, operating in Venezuela. Shortly thereafter, a French government minister accuses us of… “occupying Haiti”. On the face of it, it is not unreasonable to see a possible connection.
At least from our point of view.
Subotai Bahadur
Wretchard,
Many of your comments could stand as posts in their own right.
I think the author advances a much more useful analysis of what’s going on than viewing our problem as a simple Left vs. Right conflict
I don’t know, I thought the standard view of the left vs right conflict always boiled down to “religion of humanity” vs “real religion”
Harvard Yard @153: Thus, although terribly intelligent, he lacks wisdom.
I don’t see any intelligence. Being a cagey operator is not intelligence. Being a wind-up robot parotting Left wing cant is not intelligence. Neither is giving a good speech (Exhibit A: any of hundreds of imbecile Hollywood actors).
Agree very much with the rest of your post.
NRO: Bill Clinton: If We Elect Scott Brown, the Earthquake Wins
BOSTON—In a conversation with National Review Online, former president Bill Clinton defended his appearance today at a rally for Democrat Martha Coakley while Haiti is recovering from Tuesday’s earthquake. When I told him that some had been critical of his decision to stump for Coakley while hundreds of thousands are still trapped under rubble, he responded with annoyance: “Who?” he challenged, “who is criticizing me? It’s your problem if you can’t see how these things aren’t mutually exclusive.” Electing Coakley, he said, will “help lead to good governance” that will support Haiti while it rebuilds. When Congressman Ed Markey told Clinton that I worked for National Review, Clinton concluded with this: “See, it’s you guys who are saying this stuff, I don’t hear it.” With that, he jumped in his SUV, on his way to Worcester for another rally. Haiti, it seems, can wait.
(Unless you’re a compulsive gambler) “Doubling Down” is the mark of a man who’s never lost, and lost big. Everything I’ve heard about Obama’s history suggest someone who’s never fundamentally failed at something or had a moment where some authority of people have told him “You’re wrong, you’re doing a bad job.”
The previous godwin aside, maybe the best methphor is Jan Schlittmann and his handling of the Woburn chemical dumping lawsuit against W.R. Grace, popularized in “A Civil Action”. He was a young professional who took one a $100,000 and won, then took on a $1,000,000 and then a $2,000,000 case and won, etc. But the Woburn case was much more than he could handle (even if the other side hadn’t decided to fight dirty), and he had nothing in his pedogogy that taught him it was possible to fail and harm alot of people in the process.
Obama is basically an Ivy League anointed golden children who fared well on a few standardized tests in college and grad school and was otherwise able to game the system through his mid-40s, all the way to national elected office. The man simply doesn’t know his own limitations, let alone the limitations government policy can have and should have over his fellow citizens.
James at 101, I completly agree. The two groups of “moderates” you listed I call libertarians and populists, and I think the fortunes of Conservatives began to fall when the GOP shifted its alliance from Conservative-Libertarian to Conservative-Populist. And not really because social conservativism is a political loser, but rather because Populists aren’t really social conservatives. Sure, they might be pro-life and pro-prayer and anti-drug, or at least they might mouth those things, but they lack the one core element of traditional morality – a sense of personal responsibility.
Populists are quasi-socialists. Really they’re herd animals, looking for someone to protect them from all the scary shadows. Their political philosophy is that society shouldn’t cause them any problems, but better be there to bail them out when they screw up themselves. I guess the simple way to put it is that they look like social conservatives because they agree with real conservatives on what is immoral, but they want to socialize the consequences, which undermines the whole point of having morals. For example, Populists might agree that out-of-wedlock births are bad, but they still want big welfare checks for unwed mothers. Not her fault after all, y’know…
All that makes them essentially useless politcal allies because they end up selling out on the critical issues. You can’t move forward an agenda of personal responsibility with Populists – that’s the last thing they’ll support. And without personal responsibility, how can you keep traditional notions of morality? Not to mention the problems maintaining any sort of decency in a society where every Peter is reduced to robbing Paul in order to feed his kids.
I just want to know how on earth did GWB manage to tunnel 6 miles under Haiti and create that earthquake?
For those who read my link Deprogramming at comment 33:
The “make concessions to aggression” conditioning to which I referred occurred in NYC public schools from 1951-59.
It may be useful to know approximately how many others have endured similar treatment or wound up finding another way out of the programming.
The reason I ask is I suspect the majority of club members either never had to endure such conditioning or have already outgrown it to some extent.
Anyway, my point that relates all this to the thread is that I suspect many urbanites have been put this sort of conditioning and never saw a need to shake it and remain at odds with the bulk of us here.
As a result they essentially are sufferers of a form of Stockholm syndrome under the thumb of urban ruling machines. They view conservatives as those who’ll upset their world as they think it must be.
For instance, Peter Boston‘s experience at 136 matches my own with those friends and family who remained in the East.
One of the reasons I run ideas for new ways of saying things here is I am always seeking words that will break barriers. I constantly try to break off more of the sheeple from the herd. I’ve had remarkably good success on one-on-one bases. But it is a terribly slow process. And, don’t forget, I live in the heart of a Mexican-American area of Los Angeles (with Latino/Marxist congresscritter CA31, and a Latino Gang-member/ACLU mayor).
In order to keep the Statists and other Sinister Wing forces from stealing the votes in the future, we must find ways to heal more urbanites of their Stockholm Syndrome. Hence the reason for this additional post.
How many of you experienced similar conditioning in school?
How did you break free?
For those who never endured or succumbed to it: how did your parents manage to protect you from it? (In this, I had pretty good success with my kids, but much of it had to do with showing up, applying pressure, being willing to move and having some good luck).
If there is interest, I can set up an anonymous poll at my blog which can ask pertinent questions. I’m open to suggestions for questions here or there.
11. They wind up going on their Long March to Yenan like Mao and coming back twice as ferocious as before. In the end they either win it all or lose it all. That would be unhealthy for two-party politics.
12. This will get dicey because the black voting bloc has tied itself to the most extreme and irrational elements.
13. Servant of Allah, thank you for your concerns. Please smile for the cameras
14. which comment box do you lose?
15. The “Write a Comment” box
16. Excuse the violation of Godwin’s Law
17. The first video of the last post really amazed me. Chris Matthews was owning up to the unpopularity of health care and other Obama agenda items, but not Obama who remains popular.
18. He isn’t Sauron. He’s the Balrog!
19. This is a party that would still control the Executive Branch, have 59 votes in the Senate (counting Sanders and Lieberman) and a 70+ vote majority in the House of Representatives.
20. To me the whole problem comes to this: if they’re going to bet the farm, how far are they willing to go to win? And secondly, it is probable that some economic development or international eventuality will take a hand in events.
Pascal, my impression regarding the “I don’t care who started it” programming is that it’s a 1980s accretion, not a 1950s pattern. I mean, it’s a much older pattern of course, in the Maltese Falcon the cops are going to run everyone downtown to sort it out, and in the military we hear, “Kill them all and let Allah sort them out”. I don’t really see how, at the business end, it leads to “concessions to aggression” in any case. Quite the opposite, in fact, I may get pissed enough at the prospect to punch back at the bully, hoping to leave him there groaning while I run away.
There are lots of nasty social patterns out there, I don’t want to paint them *all* onto present circumstances or malefactors, it’s a big world out there.
Oh, he’s failed plenty of times. What sort of success could he claim as a “community organizer?” Any dispassionate view of his life pre-politics shows that it’s full of listless failure. His problem is he’s never experienced the consequences of failure – he’s always been given a pass, a PC pass. His whole life has been Heads I win, Tails we flip again, and nobody’s called him on it. He’s getting called on it now, from the Right and the Left, hell the Center too based on how Independants are polling.
Life sucks for a con man when he can’t rig the game any more.
I may agree with you Josh that it became more common in the 80s, but I assure you I had to endure it in the 50s. From all I heard from my father and his family, the NYC schools of the 20s and 30s weren’t so “even handed.”
Post WWII NYC schools could easily have been a pilot project. One of the reasons one could not simply fight back and leave was there were anonymous informers even then.
Let’s hear from more of you.
Pascal, I’ve finally won the global warming argument with 3 “true believer” relatives. It took years of them believing I was a whacko and then climategate and then a really cold winter they could see before they finally lost the faith.
1 of them actually switched and will say he doesn’t believe it any more, the 2 woman simply say they never want to hear anything about global warming either way ever again. But since they used to preach the evils of what mankind was doing to the planet, that’s as good as a win in my book.
And of course there’s the biggest benefit is that if I can break their belief in one thing the snake oil peddlers are selling, I have gone a long way towards breaking their beliefs in *everything* the snake oil peddlers are selling.
But don’t shoot too high on these conversion efforts – realize, politically, that the *best* possible case for former leftists may be that they simply become so disgusted with politics that they never vote and never contribute to anyone again.
Hey, I can live with that.
Wretchard it is true that Blacks, Hispanics, Radical Muslims, and Feminists all hate each other. But they hate the White Middle Class MORE.
Moreover, the Black underclass (urban core) is about 7.5% of the population, concentrated in urban cores but small in number compared to the White Majority, still. Both Blacks and Hispanics have agreed with Rev. Wright that “White Folks Greed Creates a World in Need” and no amount of bankruptcy of Obama’s ponzi scheme will persuade them otherwise.
It is the easiest thing in the world, in fact humans are hard-wired for it, to hate across racial lines (and blame others for a groups misfortune) and trust inside racial lines. Barack Obama is Black, therefore Blacks will always defend him, along with Hispanics. He is at the very least not White. And that’s something. Obama’s solution will simply be reparations for slavery, segregation, and discrimination. Available not just to Blacks but a man who walked across the US-Mexican border yesterday. The appeal of this is self-evident (particularly to middle-men brokers) and another doubling down.
Doubling Down also appeals to the inner Samson of Obama. He’d rather destroy than build.
Racial polarization is in fact inevitable. Blacks and Hispanics cannot bear to face the real causes of poverty in the urban core: matriarchy, lack of middle class standards and morality, glorification of defacto soft polygamy, and other uncomfortable truths. Meanwhile the SWPL class is being eroded by a failing economy, and inescapable evidence of the failure of some groups and the success of others. Contrast/Compare Haiti away from the epicenter with the Dominican Republic, itself poor and partly (but not exclusively) Black.
Obama is the first Black President. His failure to deliver a decent standard of living, and indeed creating a massively declining one for the White Majority population, along with a massive decline in the security situation and national security interests abroad, is inescapable. It points the White Middle Class towards only one conclusion.
And this is inevitable IMHO. The complex welfare state and government spending is not going to return to some 1920′s idealized level of bootstrap economies. Not ever. High government spending (which can only be limited) requires absolute trust by a “screwed-over” White Middle Class. After the fiasco of trusting in SWPL (in my mind degrading racialist idealization that denies humanity of flaws, failures, and “just a man” nature) utopian views of “Magical Negro” (ala Spike Lee’s essay) qualities of Obama the “Naked Unicorn Rider” (ala the folk art by SWPL artists depicting such) … the White Middle Class will INSIST on one of its own.
EVEN White Women. Who are favoring Coakley by only a few percentage points according to the Daily Beast.
Here is the basic problem of modern politics in the Welfare State: the stakes are so high (economic success or failure for the Majority White middle class) that inevitably multicultural leadership failures lead to rejection of that alliance and overt racial-identity group coalitions and polarization.
If (as you noted in the comments about margins) Obama had a job generating economy of Clinton’s 1996-2000 term, with no visible threats undeniably apparent, none of this would matter. Coakley would roll to a twenty point victory.
But failure not just to deliver but making things MUCH WORSE VERY QUICKLY means the open revolt of the White Middle class.
Pascal:
“Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do.”
There is nothing new under the sun.
Ohh, how clever – some posters have noticed that the phrase “separation of church and state” doesn’t appear in the Constitution. That is, as even the most uninformed idiot knows, completely correct. It doesn’t. It’s a common, and not entirely accurate, paraphrase of a part of the 1st amendment. But it’s still one of history’s best political ideas. Interestingly enough, the general public circa 1776 didn’t think much of it. They looked forward to many years of persecuting Catholics. Furtunately, that didn’t happen.
Failure to separate the concepts of church and state gives you something like Iran. No thanks.
39) wretchard,
“I’m beginning to think that the right way to understand Copenhagen and “climate change” is to see it as a gambit by the Left to manage offshore political challenges.”
And Obama’s use of the Republicans as a focal point of blame, rather than actually, effectively addressing the issues, is akin to the Arabs always pointing at Israel as the root cause of all their problems.
how clever – some posters have noticed that the phrase “separation of church and state” doesn’t appear in the Constitution.
But you seemed so blissfully unaware of that.
It’s a common, and not entirely accurate, paraphrase of a part of the 1st amendment.
That is true. It’s not “entirely accurate”.
it’s still one of history’s best political ideas.
Regardless of whether it is or not, it’s not part of the US Constitution.
Failure to separate the concepts of church and state gives you something like Iran.
I don’t recall the US looking anything like Iran in the period 1790-1970, during which the concept of “separation of church and state” was not part of the Supreme Courts lexicon.
Populists are quasi-socialists.
That’s odd, because I keep seeing the tea party people being described as populists and they oppose the Democrats socialist agenda.
As best I can tell, “populist” is similar to “fascist” – it simply means “people I don’t like”.
Moderate socialism, school prayer, abortion limits, drug war, christian culture.
Whatever the pros and cons of “school prayer, abortion limits, drug war, christian culture”, they have nothing to do with socialism, moderate or otherwise. In fact they are the antithesis of socialism, which is why socialism is so consistently hostile to “christian culture”.
5. Servant of Allah
OK, I’m convinced. Now run along, you’ve done your duty.
Interesting, Dirty Trick #1:
Boston Globe jumps the gun- Reports Democrat Win
Or at least one of the first (that we know about).
Papa Ray
All those younger working white males that were “just waiting for things to get back to normal” have realized Obama is creating a new “normal”, and they don’t much like it.
These aren’t the white males that stand by stupidly, trying to look like gangsters/rappers, while their girlfriend pays for the groceries with food stamps.
These are the young white males that have been used to significant disposable income ’cause they worked 50-60+ hours a week. Now they are just barely scraping by doing jobs on the side, they are uncertain about the future, but they aren’t uncertain about who has robbed them of it.
They used to take a day to get that building permit, now it takes 3 weeks as it has to go through 5 or 6 government officials, who, they tell me, are mostly black or some other minority. And whose real purpose is to ensure that the permitts are unecessarily delayed.
These young white males are of all things registering to vote. Didn’t think I’d ever see it!
Peterike……..
“Absentee ballots are the preferred means of stealing elections.”
The only problem with your thinking is that there was a concerted effort by the conservative radio talk shows which encouraged Brown voters to file absentee ballots in the event of bad weather. Plus, the Towns which have reported tremendous absentee ballot applications are Towns which broke for McPain/Palin.
The urban, Acorn and Obama cities did not have high or unusual applications for absentee ballots.
Reid and Pelosi have done a masterful job getting their members to ignore the Town Hall meetings, the Tea Party movement, and the 9/12 gatherings. But this is a real election with real winners and losers. If Brown loses narrowly it will certainly get the attention of all politicians in purple states. If Brown wins by 5 points+ there will be a stampede running away from anything Obama. The House and Senate seats which were won by the Dems in the last two election cycles didn’t enlist to be deckhands on the Titanic.
SteveM,
Anyone calling the folks at Tea Parties populists is getting it a bit wrong. The folks at Tea Parties are limited-government, fiscal-sanity types. Sure, there are other issues – some shared some not – important to them, but stopping the runaway growth of government is what unites them. I’m also sure there are MSM commentators who want to slander the Tea Parties, and think Populist is a good tag for that.
And I think you misunderstood James. Moderate socialism certainly doesn’t have anything to do with school prayer, etc., and certainly isn’t very consistent with an American christian culture (other countries, YMMV). But there is a group of people who hold those views and James was pointing that out. My/i> addendum just says that group is unreliable precicesly because they are so confused. They talk about traditional morality, but they don’t really understand it. They’re missing the core of it, so they get it wrong. The mistake Social Conservatives made was trying to ally with these people. They weren’t what they seemed, and sold conservatives out.
Conservatives made the ultimate immoral mistake – they sold out Libertarians in order to get a better deal, and the better deal turned out to be fake. Like a woman who leaves her husband for another guy and gets dumped in turn by her boitoi. Well, reconciliation is possible. Pretty important too.
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Well, if Seattle is any model, they don’t need no stinkin’ applications. They have pre-filled absentee ballots in their trunks, or stuffed inside voting machines waiting to be “discovered” if needed.
The folks at Tea Parties are limited-government, fiscal-sanity types.
But that’s a “populist” position in this context. It’s both “popular” and a position against the wealthy elite, who are currently looting the country.
Conservatives made the ultimate immoral mistake – they sold out Libertarians in order to get a better deal, and the better deal turned out to be fake.
Conservatives did not sell out libertarians. They were sold out themselves. The dominant wing in the GOP is not conservatives, it’s “Rockefeller Republicans”, country-club Republicans, Chamber-of-Commerce Republicans. And those poeple don’t like either libertarians or conservatives.
I don’t have as much antipathy to “country-club Republicans” and certainly none to “Chamber-of-Commerce” types. A lot of those folks also go by the title “small business owner” and are the yeomanry that any functional Republic is based on. Rockefeller Republicans, the big-business types, yeah, they’re a problem. Or were a problem – the Dems seem to have stolen their sugar daddies these days.
The real problem in the GOP is a leadership group that, well, too many are simply careeer politicians who market thmeselves to Republcian voters without having any real ideological connection. The way convervatives sold themselves out is by supporting these con men.
If the term Populist is confusing, I’m okay with another term. Call ‘em Big Government Moralists if you’d rather. They do a lot of moralizing about other people and want a big government. The argument I want to make is that they are not social conservatives, even though they talk a lot about things like abortion and prayer and what not.
Is it not obvious that the long struggle is nearly over?
Is it not obvious that the triumph of Islam is inevitable?
If those are so, what is the reason yer Soldiers of Allah hide like women? Come out in the open o’ Soldiers of Allah, meet the righteousness that awaits you.
Your granddaughters will read and will not be chattel.
Gee Golly Gumdrops, it begins:
Someone named ‘Isabel Melendez’ is handing out absentee ballots in Spanish in Massachussetts (sorry, did I leave out an “e”?).
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZWQ4NTBhNzdjMTYzZTdlZWYwNmY0MWExOTI2NTdlODE=
There are so many posts here I don’t know if someone already got to this.
I don’t have as much antipathy to “country-club Republicans” and certainly none to “Chamber-of-Commerce” types… Rockefeller Republicans, the big-business types, yeah, they’re a problem.
They’re the exact same people. The CoC has repeatedly followed the big goverment agenda. Amnesty is huge transfer of money from everyone else to the wealthy – favored by the CoC. The CoC has fought for tax increases. They’re not any sort of libertarians, and they sure as heck are not Jeffersons yeomanry.
They do a lot of moralizing about other people and want a big government. The argument I want to make is that they are not social conservatives, even though they talk a lot about things like abortion and prayer and what not.
Well, you’re making assertions but no argments here. Give me some specifics and we can discuss it.
179. These aren’t the white males that stand by stupidly, trying to look like gangsters/rappers, while their girlfriend pays for the groceries with food stamps
180. Absentee ballots are the preferred means of stealing elections
181. Reid and Pelosi have done a masterful job getting their members to ignore the Town Hall meetings, the Tea Party movement, and the 9/12 gatherings
182. Conservatives made the ultimate immoral mistake – they sold out Libertarians in order to get a better deal, and the better deal turned out to be fake.
183. Well, if Seattle is any model, they don’t need no stinkin’ applications
184. But that’s a “populist” position in this context. It’s both “popular” and a position against the wealthy elite, who are currently looting the country
185. Conservatives did not sell out libertarians. They were sold out themselves.
186. The argument I want to make is that they are not social conservatives, even though they talk a lot about things like abortion and prayer and what not.
187. If those are so, what is the reason yer Soldiers of Allah hide like women? Come out in the open o’ Soldiers of Allah, meet the righteousness that awaits you.
188. Gee Golly Gumdrops
189. Well, you’re making assertions but no argments here. Give me some specifics and we can discuss it.
The dog ate the rest.
Couple of years ago I was playing some hold-em. Guy across from me gets pocket rockets (2 Aces). The turn is 2,2,A – he has aces full. He slow plays it – moderate bets to suck everybody in. The river (last card) is a King. He bets. I bet the pot. He figures me for Kings full. Back comes a pot raise. I go back at him and he starts to get a look on his face. I turn over my pair of 2′s.
“Then he went off sniffing drainpipes
And reciting the alphabet”.
Something about chickens and such.
Breaking my rule about responding to trolls:
Bush and Cheney are sitting in a diner. Guy comes over and says “What’s up?”.
“We’re planning WW III.”
“Oh? What’s going to happen?”
“We’re going to kill 140 million muslims and a blond with big tits”.
“A blond with big tits? Why would you kill a blond with big tits?”
Cheney to Bush: “See, I told you nobody cares about muslims”.
Let Obama channels his inner Stalin,and try to shut down the Bill of Rights.The rebellion needs its Lexington and Concord!
http://wcbstv.com/local/haiti.exodus.flatbush.2.1435152.html
Just a thought, that Obama has put his foot in it in Haiti, already there are questions about a mass exodus of refugees to the US. Wasn’t this an issue during Clinton’s administration (so-called)? Or am I just confusing that with the Cuban prisoners while he was governor?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_the_Bill_Clinton_administration#Haiti
http://www.encyclopediaofarkansas.net/encyclopedia/entry-detail.aspx?entryID=4248
(encyclopedia of arkansas, forsooth!)
Yah.
What happens to our Magic Negro when he either keeps the Haitians offshore, or lets a million of them come onshore?
Too bad the timing was off, he could have put the million into Massachusetts and they all could have voted today under a special democratic demonstration dispensation.
Bob Smith @ 133:
You’re wrong.
As Democratic corruption. Republican stupidity cannot be plumbed.
JMH @ 166:
He didn’t really fail, in that he suffered no consequences for his lack of success. He still got promotions and big bucks, and of course exponentially greater power.
Subotai
I guess it took you a while to look for procecution documents
I really don’t care of which country is managing the operations
this “quarrel” is more a media buzz business
Some persons may have spoke out of their mouth in last week urgencies and eagernesses
the final message is still Kouchner’s (quoted above)
Now as far as Chavez is concerned, he surely ment his purposes.
Though this official “clarification” of the “rules” had some effect :
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-troops-bring-food-and-hope-to-shattered-nation-1871974.html
“So members of the 82nd Airborne Division, who are among the 1,700 US soldiers now on the ground in Haiti, revealed their new rules of engagement. They hope to win the hearts and minds of the shattered people they have travelled here to help. Gone are angry scowls and wrap-around sunglasses; instead, they are all smiles. And rather than waving machine guns at people, they have been ordered to discreetly carry their weapons on their backs. A total of 10,000 soldiers will be here by tomorrow, and if Uncle Sam is not handing out the Hershey bars quite yet, they’re certainly in the post. ”
I agree about prayer in schools- it defeats the purpose if it’s mandatory. However, abortion is a quintessential budget issue- it is a demographic time bomb that is wrecking the economy today and will only continue to cause damage in the future. Furthermore, what good is it to balance the budget while people are being unjustly deprived of life and liberty?
Okay. Mike Huckabee.
Pro-life, anti stem-cell research, against gay marriage, favors teaching Creationism in public schools, presided over a 50+% increase in the Arkansas State Budget as governor, dramatically increased the number of state workers, lied (serially) about a tax increase, supports cap-n-trade, thinks AGW is real and addressing it a moral imperative, thinks Americans are inherently racist, waffles back and forth on immigration and, recently highly relavant to folks up here in the Seattle area, he’s soft as a rotten log on crime, granting felons twice as many clemencies as the previous three AK governors combined, including commuting the 95-year aggrivated robbery sentence of one Maurice Clemmons who went on to commit serial felonies until he finally killed four officers in Washington State. Huckabee does favor throwing the book at marijuana users however. Oh, and he also wanted to investigate George W. Bush for the Plame case. He came out against TARP et al, but, um, pardon me (joke, ha ha) if in light of his track record I am dubious about his sincerity.
Let’s be clear, I don’t dislike (most of) his moral positions, but as the clemency issues shows, his brand of social conservatism is too close to feel-goodism, which is a liberal disease. He felt good commuting the sentences, made him feel generous and magnanimous, and since he has a habit of leniency for those who found Christ in prison, he probably felt holy too. At the expense of innocent people terrorized or killed by the recidivist felons he let out. He can’t figure out what his position on immigration is, and says things about Americans being racist – I suspect he wants to salve his “White guilt” somehow, again at the expense of the rest of the country, white, black, brown whatever, who suffer the collateral damange of widespread illegal immigration. He’s a pastor and takes, as far as I can tell, his moral lead from Christian teachings, but I just don’t think he understands them very well. And his support of cap-n-trade as a moral imperative shows how dangerous an unguided penchant for public moralizing can be.
He’s the sort I’m talking about. He’s a rarity among BGMs (Big Government Moralizer) in that he has a relatively high visibility as a leader, but the real problem isn’t his leadership, it’s other GOP leaders trying to rely on the voters attracted to Huckabee for support.
What the heck is going on with the Brown-Coakley race anyway? How long until we know how many votes the Dems have to fabricate to win the recounts?
81. Marie Claude:
LOTM
sorry we just gave Mayotte its french nationality, and nowadays muslims are much priced as labor force (yes the majority works)than vaudou zombies
Besides your country showed much more interest of monitoring Haiti than we could ever dream of, also as a resort island, we don’t need it, we have Martinique and Guadeloupe, so keep the good job !
lol …it was the gay tourist destination until AIDS
Okay. Mike Huckabee.
Yup. Crappy candidate. But considering the other people running for the Republican nomination last time, I can’t get too upset with people for supporting him. There were no libertarianish/small government candidates running. (Other than Hunter, Paul, and Tancredo, but lets not go there. I supported Hunter myself.)
My point is, the people who voted for Huckabee in the primaries don’t have a lot of clout in the party. If you want to know why the GOP supported bigger government these last ten years or so, I think you need to look elsewhere – at the big business Republicans in particular.
the real problem isn’t his leadership, it’s other GOP leaders trying to rely on the voters attracted to Huckabee for support.
I almost wish I believed this. I’ve never seen the GOP leaders show the slightest interest in catering to any of the voting blocs which make up the party.
Say what you like about the Democrats, but they do their best to deliver something for their constituencies.
Re: Obama and Doubling Down
I am reminded of a quaint old Southernism: He ought not let his alligator mouth overload his hummingbird backside (there are a couple alternate words for “backside” but this is a family friendly site). Cheers -
Here are two sites reporting results:
http://www.boston.com/news/special/politics/2010/senate/results.html
http://www.wrko.com/node
The first one has a county map but is loading slowly, probably due to heavy traffic. The second one has the results at the top of the screen.
Well, not quite–they can hardly have the absentees running 100% in Coakley’s favor.
Why not? That’s pretty much what they did in Washington state to elect Christine Gregoire. Not 100%, but batches of votes so clearly lopsided given the demographics of their purported districts that fraud was obvious. The funny thing was that they were so incompetent they didn’t know how many manufactured ballots were in their boxes, so it took them 3 recounts to win.
Wretchard, is there an honorific we can deny this town?
City/town Precincts Turnout Brown Coakley
Belmont 8 of 8 67% 4,405 6,528
John, uh you seems to know quite a bit of the subject
but up to now it’s more St Martin and St Barthelemy’s islands
It looks like Brown is going to pull it off. Color me most pleasantly surprised.
With all the the Lord of the Rings metaphors on this thread, allow me to submit one of my own. Maybe this is our “Charge of the Rohirrim” at Helm’s Deep, salvaging an improbable victory at the last moment from what seemed an inevitable defeat.
http://tinyurl.com/223yj6
Let’s hope this momentum can be sustained.
Massachusetts Miracle! Fox News and AP just called the race for Brown!
Maybe I’m just using bad terminology. I said “rely on” but you heard (er, read) “cater to.” Not the same thing at all. Here’s the gist of my theory about why the GOP leadership has gone down a rabbit hole. I said before they were really career politicians trying to market themselves to Conservative (fiscal and social) voters. The problem for them is that fiscal conservatives are small-government types, and small government is bad for career politicians. After a while marketing themselves as small-government types without doing anything to shrink government, folks started to see through them and they needed a new marketing strategy.
Without the fiscal conservatism, the Libertarians in the Reagan coalition were gone. The GOP could still appeal to Conservatives on social issues (and social issues, as Huckabee and a few others demonstrated, can be used as rationale for new government spending – yay! a two-fer for our beloved incumbocrats), but needed votes to replace the Libertarians they lost. Bingo, Populists (or Big Goverment Moralizer if you perfer). So they started talking lots about God, guns, gays, abortion, etc. They didn’t mean it – it was still just a marketing ploy. At any rate, catering to them would have been mostly hopeless anyway – government is far better at undermining morality that at preserving it. The more social issues we’ve allowed the government to play a role in, the worse our civilization has gotten.
Now, if you’re still blaming Wall Street types for this, I think you’re nearly a generation out of date. Wall Street has become a Democrat bastion and Obama is confirming that with his payoffs to them. Sure, Bush fell for (or maybe knew all along, depending on your view of the man) the TARP crap, but the big players in the D.C-to-Manhattan money shuffle have been mostly Dems since the Clinton administration. The Democrat party likes to use positions in those firms as rewards for loyal party soldiers.
In any event, getting back to my original post agreeing with James, I think the best way forward is to re-establish a strong small-government, fiscal-responsibility platform. It’s not that social issues don’t matter – they do immensely, but they’re awfully difficult to address effectively with political action. At least in a positive sense. Government is good at undermining morality – inherently corrupting and all that. Civil society is good at preserving and strenghening morality. The best bet is to return as many social issues to the civil rather than government sphere as possible. Yes, I know, much damage has been done to that aspect of our civilization by the liberals and you’re probably worried it can’t support decent morals any longer. It has to – nothing else can do the job. As a boss of mine once said “This is your A-plan. You need to focus on it.” Reviving all the important civic (as in public but not government) institutions is the key to restoring our civilization. Banning Gay Marriage is a distraction from that task. Which is one reason why, I’m pretty sure, gay-bashing liberals like Obama push it so much.
Anyway, good news from MA tonight so far.
208. Bob Smith. They counted votes in King County (Seattle) -12- times until Gregoire won in 2004. And the We-Speak-Truth-To-Power MSM could not have cared less.
The Dems did the same thing in Minnesota last year to “elect” Franken. They had the help of the MN Secretary of State who was an Acorn guy.
I think the only reason there was not massive in the Mass election is that the Dems didn’t think they were gonna lose, so they didn’t prepare.
We should all volunteer to be poll watchers in 2010, because they will be doubling down.
210. Marie Claude:
John, uh you seems to know quite a bit of the subject
but up to now it’s more St Martin and St Barthelemy’s islands
I will have to take your word for that
201. That interpretation just wasn’t honest. True, he did hike taxes, but the Arkansan people supported those tax hike, and they got vastly improved schools and roads in return. Comparing Huckabee’s record on pardons and commutations says nothing about whether those actions were justified- nonviolent thieves don’t deserve life sentences. Bottom line, Huckabee has common sense, like scrapping the IRS and a tax code so complex even the people who wrote it don’t know what it says.
As far as the present crisis is concerned, don’t blame me, I voted for Huckabee.
It’s no surprise that Obama would keep doubling down, when he’s gotten so lucky so many times before in his political career (trailing badly in his Senate bid, then his opponent got hit by a sex scandal… and in ’08, McCain/Palin had all the momentum coming off the conventions, until the bottom suddenly fell out of the financial markets).
One thing’s for sure: I don’t want to be around if/when Obama gets yet another big lucky break.
his acceptance speech is on now –and boy is he GOOD !
Good lord amighty –you have GOT to see this –
The “Big Bang” Obama agenda just may become a “Big Dud”.
Thank you, thank you MA Patriots! You certainly did your duty today! The nation stands proud with you today!
208. Bob Smith. They counted votes in King County (Seattle) -12- times until Gregoire won in 2004
Maybe 3 was the number of new batches of votes they kept finding in people’s trunks and warehouses, with no explanation of why a poll worker would store legitimate votes there rather than give them to the election commission for counting. No matter, I guess I stopped paying attention once it was obvious the fix was in.
I think the only reason there was not massive in the Mass election is that the Dems didn’t think they were gonna lose, so they didn’t prepare.
Coakley has already alleged vote fraud on the part of Brown. Her concession doesn’t mean she’s given up on recounts to (a) get her into office with some ballots they’re going to manufacture in the next few days, like Gregoire, and/or (b) to strategically delay Brown’s swearing in until the final vote on Obamacare is finished. I would wait to see what Coakley does in the next few days.
That interpretation just wasn’t honest. True, he did hike taxes, but the Arkansan people supported those tax hike, and they got vastly improved schools and roads in return
Not once have I ever seen a school spending initiative actually improve schools, let alone “vastly” improve them. Not once. By what measure are you claiming the schools were improved?
221. By their rising ranks among US States in terms of school quality. Factcheck.org 12 December 2007 will confirm this. Just read the transcripts from the primary debates if you don’t believe me.
JMH at 213—
Let me suggest that the GOP ought to focus, without strict litmus tests but as the overall character or tone of the party, on conservative fiscal, monetary, security, and constitutional principles, and among those is that most social issues are, constitutionally, reserved to the States.
Let Utah be Utah, and Vermont be Vermont. A national party shouldn’t fall on its sword over those issues.
The Dems finally figured that out on gun control in the mid-1990s, and from 2006 they’ve been competitive in places like Montana and Colorado.
Abortion may be a special case becuase if you believe life begins at conception, you see it as murder, and even tho strictly speaking that is a State issue, it’s hard to put aside. Even there, reversing Roe v Wade would not end legal abortion, it would just put the issue back in the States, where it belongs.
On most “social issues,” let the States deal with them.
That’s a sound conservative idea that should not cause a true constitutional conservative too much gas, when the alternative is the Obama Democratic Party.
WWS/168:
That’s 2 extended family members better than me on AGW. Congratulations.
Normally good advice, but hell, don’t tell a man on the front lines to retreat.
One of the reasons urbanites, even those in the middle class, vote in large numbers for the Left really seems to be something akin to Stockholm syndrome. The urbanite still believes s/he’s liberal even as his candidates are openly fascist, or conservative and his candidates prove to be worse than merely spineless. Demonstrated inconsistency are met with everything from shifts in subject to violent denials, and only conceded in the manner you describe — “I don’t want to talk about it!”
Voter fraud is close to a sacrament here, committed by radicals who use illegal aliens, protected by Incrementals who claim any crackdown is racist (Dems) or could appear to be (GOP). Nobody should forget how over-the-top both Schwarzennegger and GWBush reacted to the Orange County GOP candidate who ran against Loretta Sanchez’s voter roll padding. We will never get a super-majority of any sort of conservative movement as long as the Sinisters can steal large blocs of congressional seats.
What is that [Proper name] rule that any institution not conservatively anchored must eventually turn Left? Giving up on large areas of the country WILL sustain that rule for sure, and today’s win will be but another forestalling of the inevitable end of this great republic.
So then … a white male won, and we all breathe a sigh of relief that the world is spinning the way it should spin again.
I’m *glad* he won, of course, but geez, aren’t there any decent human beings left any more except white males?
Marty
Agreed, but abortion is a special case not just because of the contentious* debates about whether it’s murder or not, but also because of Roe v. Wade. It’s the highest profile social issue with an official declaration** about what the Constitution says on the subject.
The biggest problem though in pushing a federalism program (which I support 110%) is the necessary definition of what rights the Constituion grants every American citizen regardless of what State they are in. Even the easy ones are hard – how much experimentation can states do with gun control, for instance? And we will always have slavery thrown up in our faces, with a sneering “Well, that was a States Rights issue too!” for which the Conferderacy should be eternally dammed.
Still, it’s the right path to take, and even if it’s a hard road the destination is worth it. We’ve been trying to take shortcuts for a while, and none have led anywhere but dead-ends.
* – I’m certainly convinced abortion is one of the most selfish and immoral things a mother could do, but the country as a whole is not so sure, a fact that is quite sad but one we need to face. Regardless of the moral issues, so long as a significant number of women think abortion is a necessary option to preserve their
privacyfreedom from responsibility, any attempts to outlaw it will be disastrous. This is an issue that will take years of work to undo, and that work will need to be done in the civic sphere. Convincing young women that abortion is immoral is far more important than convincing old men it ought to be illegal.** – an incorrect, unsubstantiated, full-of-baloney, morally dubious and legally fraudulent definition, granted, but Law-o-the-land level for the time being none the less. This one is a scar we are going to have to live with for a while.
NahnCee,
Bobby Jindal, our esteemed host, Starling here, there are lots of them.
Due to loss of my cable last night, my last edited addition to 224 failed to upload.
WWS/168:
Normally good advice, but hell, don’t tell a man on the front lines to retreat unless it’s time to surrender.
Oh, and I too got a concession on AGW from a family friend a couple of nights ago. However, he still thinks the ends justify the means “because look how clean the air is now.”
After I hope I suppressed an eye-roll, I couldn’t get him then to concede the two issues are not the same. What he’d done was casually switched the argument to the old demagogic sophistry that libs like clean air and conservatives like filth.
Your two women may have done something similar, only they didn’t let on to you (cuz they didn’t wanna talk anymore). IOW, you may still need to sonar for that evasion (delicately) to sustain your success.
I’ll blog the complete argument under On the Urban Front Lines.
“President knows only one move: double down again.”
No, Obama backed down from Fox News, at least for now. He’ll try to wiggle away from Healthcare if doubling down is a clear loser.
I expect him to very publicly promote some kind of “bipartisan” programs that throw bones to wavering Republicans.
LOTM – I don’t believe any of those worthies are running for public office. Which is where we need hero’s right now.
NahnCee,
Bobby Jindal is the Governor of Louisiana. If you are not a white male the GOP wants to talk to you about running for any office. Heroes are all around us and thousands are returning from Iraq and AfPak.
Ah, geez, LOTM – must you *always* be so literal? You’re misinterpreting and I think you must know you are just to push the subject and prove some personal microscopic point. Either that or you’re dumber than Marie Claude is. But yes, of course, you’re right. And I am wrong. There — you happy?
NahnCee,
Nah, though the innertubes are an irony challenged zone. You did good in advertising for all of us to get involved in local politics, least that was how I took it. Now post quick so you can have the last word and they can close the thread.