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Glenn Reynolds writes:
HEADLINE: Up to two million march to US Capitol to protest against Obama’s spending in ‘tea-party’ demonstration.
So maybe I was wrong to be so skeptical. But cut it in half and it’s still a huge number. And this is priceless: “Many protesters said they paid their own way to the event – an ethic they believe should be applied to the government.” Why is the British press more honest in its reporting on this stuff than the American press?
Meanwhile, a reader emails: “I’ll tell you what I find impressive. I’m watching the Fox news video about 15 minutes after the end of the event. The crowd has thinned out enough that you can see the ground and there is not a speck of trash on the grass. Absolutely clean. To contrast, google ‘pictures of litter on the mall after the inauguration.’”
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What is even more impressive about this “non-event” is that nearly all of the people who participated today have never previously marched other than for charitable causes or in holiday parades, have heretofore paid their taxes (albeit with some grumbling), have never had scrapes with the law more serious than traffic tickets, and have generally trusted their government to do what was right and necessary.
I think millions of American have now, or will soon, come to their own personal “radicalizing moments.” And I suspect many Democrats (Blue Dogs or otherwise) have taken note and look toward their own political futures with even more anxiety than before.
For Democrats on the Hill, what is to be done? Be a loyal “NEP Man” and vote for Obama’s plan (whatever that is) despite it being, in its own way, every bit as unpopular as Vietnam? Or should they recognize reality and oppose it, knowing that defeat for Obama will likely result in his long, slow slide into irrelevance?
What is to be done? In my opinion, no matter which path many, if not most, Democrats in Congress take, they’re screwed. Obama ramming through his vision of health care will not, as he thinks, dispirit the Increasingly-Less-Silent-Majority. Nope, The Won will likely instead face an explosion of anger from the American public not seen in generations.
Wow! I am intensely proud of my fellow countrymen, and for the first time in a year, I can see real hope. We’re going to prevail in this thing. It’s not done yet, and there is a long, hard road ahead, but we’re going to put a stake into the heart of this new Socialism. I hope I live long enough to see the death of Socialism for the second time in my lifetime (until the next time the Left rises from the dead). When we can get 1/2 percent of the entire country to show up in the nation’s capital at their own expense because they recognize the peril our government represents to freedom and prosperity, there’s no stopping us. The only question now is how much destruction Obama and his ilk can inflict before we take them down – and it may be a LOT. But we’re going to come out on top of this thing, and put it right because we ARE right. Now it’s only a matter of cost. You called it, Wretchard. You’re four or five moves ahead of me, as usual.
I was just watching this on CNN and one of their pundits referred to this little demonstration as a political lynching, another exclaimed; “they had a sign with Obama as Hitler!” Oh the irony of the self-indignant, if the light could only shine upon itself.
“They had rebel flags!”
This is what happens to nice people who spend a generation or two apologizing for their race.
Your government hates you and wants you to die.
“The only question now is how much destruction Obama and his ilk can inflict before we take them down”
I mentioned before in this forum that I have several back friends who, with little exception, believe that Bush instigated 911. I told them that I seriously thought they were insane and I was in no position to argue with somebody who could seriously believe such a thing. Logic had little to do with it. But as much as any of them felt that they had done well by themselves on the strength of their own character, certainly there were those who felt that they could not do it without a hand up by government, and that government is the Democratic Party as far as they were concerned.
Nobody is taking anybody down, unless it is the Republican Party. No, unless average Americans back down, and it is the decency in them to do so, this will not end very nicely at all. The Left literally sees the right as dieing and to a certain extent, 40 years of Marxist indoctrination, they are correct. The Right is dead and dieing and they will never gain back what they saw as rightly theirs because it was irrevocably lost along time ago and people like Alinsky knew it all along.
Think you’re going to get your social security check? Think again.
AM @ 4: “Think you’re going to get your social security check? Think again.”
Nope. Gave up that hope long ago.
Wow. My only worry now is that we may get 200,000 people to show up at tomorrow afternoon’s inaugural “Belmont Club in Houston” event. I seriously under-ordered food if that’s true.
For those of you who are in the general area of Houston (fictional home of Belmont Club), we’re having an informal get-together tomorrow. You know, nuthin’ special, just hangin’ out.
What: The Inaugural Belmont Club in Houston community organizing event.
Time: Tomorrow, Sunday 13 September 2009, from 4-7pm
Where:
Just keep your eye open for the 20-foot stainless steel Armadillo in front, and park in back.
It’s a pretty laid-back and family-friendly joint. I’ll be there with the distaff side and the five kids. We’ll have some appetizers, although the place serves a mean BBQ if you’d like to stay for supper. Hope y’all will come by for a little Texas-style hospitality and Belmont-style reparteé.
The place serves beer, too. That’ll help, I’m sure.
Cheers,
L3
It is just wonderful. It just makes my heart sing and soar. Just look at those people.
Maybe we yet have a change to turn this around.
I surely hope that they become radicalized, as MARKJ said, because there is a hard road ahead. The left will not just rollover and die on us. It will take many more days like this one, but what a fine start. More and more people are staring to see through them; more and more are getting closer to the truth of things. Te cat is out of the bag now. Perhaps we can organize now to stop the inevitable attempts to corrupt the 2010 election.
There is finally some hope.
WDMFF – I held out some hope that I might see some of it but after the last government “Oops! Dog ate my homework!” with the banking system I have lost all hope. The good news is 10 million people who expect no more than to be killed off or die in a government tragedy – strategy would certain to be of a very focused mind.
You see, for me, this whole business about healthcare is this; I could work hard and buy health insurance my whole life. If I didn’t have insurance from time to time I’d feel like if something happened to me that it would be my own fault. Kill myself riding my motorcycle, my fault. But the very thought that the government allowed me to die because I wasn’t one of the approved or desired people, that I couldn’t live with. My decisions, my life, as it should be.
Healthy straight white males do not feel welcomed at the unemployment office, or any other social service because the government plainly makes the case that whites have had it made since birth. Do I want these people to make life and death decisions for me? Frayed knot.
It is a matter of time before being any political party other than the true correct party, Democrat, will put you on the government sh!t list and it will be a death sentence. At about this time people will give up or fight.
#8 At about this time people will give up or fight.
We have only begun to fight! If they choose to make it “not so pretty,” then so be it. We shall overcome!
Well whoop-de-do! So a bunch of racist hate mongers swarmed to Washington, D.C. to threaten our newly elected Leader.
I’m sure all the pictures will be put to good use by the authorities, as will the postings and comments on hate sites like this.
“So a bunch of racist hate mongers swarmed to Washington”
Thanks for making my case better than I could.
http://tinyurl.com/n4uhnm
Yes We Did @ 10:
“I’m sure all the pictures will be put to good use by the authorities, as will the postings and comments on hate sites like this.”
And for making MY case much better than I could.
“…as will the postings and comments on hate sites like this.”
Yes, our Filipino host is quite the white supremacist.
Must have picked it at Harvard or somethin’.
Leo Linbeck III,
I will be with you in spirit and my spirit likes dark or weiss beer.
Regarding the Troll. That was a communicated threat and as such actionable. I hope that the blog and site owners take appropriate action in defense of their business and customers.
There is in my mind a thread linking this and the last post. At least that is my story for posting prematurely there and I’m sticking with it. What the Right, really that does mean the Republicans whether or not people are happy with that fact, can do for the first time since 1994 is form that most un-American activity, a shadow government. We need to not only prepare to take back power but our representatives at all levels must push to attain and wield power, not in partnership with Obama but in despite of him. With hard work, luck and a good wind we might see Obama and company cut out of the equation. I want to isolate and marginalize the friends of the hated Rahm Emanuel, and to do that we need allies.
If this spreads and the Blue Dogs defect, then it is possible that by Spring we might just cobble together a new Congressional majority. That will probably not lead to impeachment unless some catastrophic event occurs or evidence of gross crimes can no longer be suppressed. But it may allow patriotic forces to regain control of enough levers to ensure the prosecution of the war and stop the looting of the economy. Once the tide begins to turn it may run out fast and it is possible that fear will no longer hold the allies in place for Obama and evidence of past and present crimes may emerge.
So I advise to take counsel of our hopes as well as our fears and, even though my concerns over the logistical trap in Afghanistan are on record, that we provide leadership and advocate for fighting the war with only one goal in mind, victory.
There is an interesting symbiotic relationship going on here between populism and socialism.
Obama ran as a ‘post-racial’ populist, the perfect foil to George Bush. Articulate, handsome, young, and vibrant. I am not sure where the president’s true political leanings fall as far as Marxist, or Socialist is concerned but I am certain, either of these not withstanding, he is a Unionist. Well he is a great populist leader. The problem is I do not like my populist leaders to be Left-wing extremist bullies anymore than I’d care for a Right-wing extremist.
He helped salve the banking industry with untold billions, converted the nation’s once largest employer to a union owned shop (GM) which is itself is an outrage, is probably giving back healthcare to the workers, and when he has a national speech directed towards children, I fear, he is indoctrinating a new army of union members. The California Teachers Union thinks nothing to take children out of school to protest CTU’s wages and issues with the bankrupt state. It isn’t really about the children, it is about who teaches them and about what that is so important. Our political enemies have already written us off and they know we are sensitive to being called names. So the grievance mongers call anybody who does not agree with their Marxist views racists.
The truth is the leadership of Republican Party is a bunch of fuddy-duddy old men. I changed to independent a few years back and am infrequently sorry for it. Our leadership across the board has been hovering around the wellhead of American wealth waiting to get a piece of it and forgot for whom they work for. Why, we’ll just bring a little of that pork home and all will be alright. But more now than ever Americans are saying forget the pork, there is no free ride, quit borrowing from future generations to pay today’s bills. Quit selling out America to foreign interests… enough already!
They had rebel flags! Well Elroy, go over to Zombie Times and check out some of code pinks latest pabulum. Decorum indeed.
Lifeofthemind, all that is required is for Republicans to win back the House and gridlock sets in. With the House in Republican control, nothing gets done. And any end around attempted by the White House will only result in Congressional hearings on the matter. Something that the One would be wise to avoid. The campaign for the 2010 begins in earnest in six months (primaries). Let the games begin!
Dictators get 99 percent of the vote nearly every election once they’re secure in their seat. The vote is not the true measure of the legitimacy of a government. Rather, it is the willingness of the people to give, as Lincoln referred to it, the last full measure of devotion. This is not just a warning to the Democrats or the Republicans about their power in government. This is a warning about the very legitimacy of that government. When the end came in Moscow, it wasn’t because there weren’t police or a military. Rather, no one was willing to really defend it even with all the trappings of ritual and process that claimed that legitimacy.
Tarnsman:
I’m glad to see a kindred spirit on that point. I do think, though, that we have to treat the primaries as starting now to avoid getting the same old RINO’s again. We need to spend the next 6 months beating the bushes for true conservatives and get them primed.
YWD #10:
ROFLMFAO! You trolls crack me up!
Just wanna get my post in and make sure the “authorities” don’t miss me.
Drudge is saying Obama has promised to “fight for healthcare proposal.”
You know what I’m thinking? This perennial candidate doesn’t know how to fight. Not the bare knuckle political infighting of seasoned pols like Lyndon Johnson or Sam Rayburn, where you horse-trade and cajole your way to a compromise that is really largely a victory. This president is accustomed to people handing him what he wants without a lot of work. Pretty words off a teleprompter are only a small part of a good pol’s quiver of arrows, and aspirin overdoses or dirty tricks (like unsealing sordid divorce records as happened to his Republican opponent in the Illinois Senate race) can only happen so many times before people say “enough already!” That suit is looking pretty empty. F
15. Lifeofthemind
“What the Right, really that does mean the Republicans whether or not people are happy with that fact…”
Yup, in Congress (House & Senate) the party in the majority is in control. We have two choices: the full blown socialist dems and the sometimes conservative republicans. Third party candidates in elections only serve to take votes away from one or the other party. I can give many examples from recent election cycles where GOP candidates lost due to third parties on the right taking votes that most likely would have gone to the GOP. Are we better off today with Dem senators from Alaska and Minnesota?
So I say, stick with the GOP. The alternative is the Dem socialists. If you don’t want to support your local GOP candidates find a national organization that supports GOP candidates of the type you like and help them out. Personally, I like the Club for Growth. They find and support conservative candidates who have an established conservative record typically at the state legislature level and help them in their runs for congress. We have a fine congressman in western Iowa, Steve King, thanks to well timed primary support from Club for Growth which allowed King to win some years back when the seat was open.
I am convinced that the left funds third party candidates on the right for the express purpose of siphoning votes from GOP candidates. Just wait until 2012. I think we will see at least one, maybe two on the right in an attempt to get BO another four years.
In a special legislative election here in Iowa several weeks ago the GOP candidate lost by 107 votes largely due to two lessor candidates who siphoned off about 600 votes.
I think Steyn got it right in this NRO article today…
” My sense from Wednesday’s speech is that the president’s gonna shove this through in some form or other. It may cause a little temporary pain in Blue Dog districts in 2010, but the long-term gains will be transformative and irreversible”
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZTI2Y2YyMzExNGI2OWNjNWU2YWM2NTdiYzY2OTIzNGQ=
I don’t think Obama is too worried about a temporary loss of Congress. He’s a true believer and passage of Gov’t healthcare would irreversibly change the nature of our politics and ultimately ensure a Democratic majority.. As in England, elections would be won by whoever promises the most spending on healthcare because, really, who could argue that we spend too much? Look at public schools…up is the only direction spending can go. Forever and ever upward.
I tried google news a few times back when and haven’t been back; I found it useless as a news source. I suspect that, unlike the search engine that essentially aggregates and ranks the interests of millions, the news engine had a large amount of geeky “intelligence” built into it, making it stupid.
Tarsman,
all that is required is for Republicans to win back the House and gridlock sets in
You must be an Economist, “First assume that we have a can opener.” Your lips to God’s ears.
The question is, which is strategically a better choice?
1) Hold out for a year in the hope of electing an ideologically purer Congress, in the face or hundreds of billions of Acorn type slush fund dollars and paid union supporters that BHO has to play with thanks to the Stimulus and auto seizures and SEIU. That will mean accepting all the possibly irreversible damage that BHO is planning before the 2010 elections. TXProle and Mark Steyn are right about the danger.
2) Make an alliance with the Blue Dogs and try to shift the balance of power away from Pelosi during the coming year. At this time the Republicans would have to peel off 39 Democratic Congressmen to reorganize the House. That is a tall order. It might be possible to win over enough to take effective control of the legislative process at the committee level. That will mean making some deals that the purists among us will hate.
Oh, look — it’s a troll! I had thought they were dying out, species Obamicus Trollicus, like their cousins the dodo birds, but there is still one or two left out there, blathering on about “yes we did” with their blinkered blinders on refusing to acknowledge that little part of the Constitution called “impeachment” which means we do *not* have to put up with this Manchurian loser they foisted off on us normal people for a full four years.
I’m also thrilled to notice that said troll hasn’t learned a single new thing other than same ole / same ole name-calling and race baiting. It will make it so much easier to predict where they’ll be and what they’ll be thinking when it comes time to stamp them out like the antideluvian and unfit roaches they are.
YWD #10: Shades of Herman Melville, me thinks Habu is having some fun…
the gop leadership are ir-redeemable. the key is to put up candidates in every squishy district — during the gop primaries — and take back the party from the gutless wonders running it now. and for god’s sake stop donating to the party — give your money to individual candidates.
Troll wrote: “newly elected Leader.”
Note the capital L.
Freudian typo?
Osama bin Laden said, “…when people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature, they will like the strong horse.”
The thought occurs to wonder if any HopeNChangers will see those 1-2 million DC marchers and think to themselves that maybe they chose the wrong horse in Obama, and that the Democrats now look decidedly weaker and maybe should be abandoned to their fate.
Or, in a previous discussion on the disappearance of trolls, have HopeNChangers already started changing their horses for the stronger appearing one, which today’s massive march will just underline.
Alternatively, Progressives and Liberals have spent the past 8 years calling all Republicans including Bush and McCain old, boring and crotchety, while Sarah Palin is painted as an Alaskan hayseed, so maybe HopeNChangers will become Libertarians instead, because it’s just not “cool” to be a Republican.
Last night CNN featured a strange session in which the moderator (young nice looking black guy – don’t know his name) tried to cajoll two guests into saying that the nationwide 9/12 Tea Partiers were “racists”.
“Come on,” he urged the guests. “It’s largely about racism.” Gee, after 8 years of merciless pounding on Bush CNN finally “discovers” criticism of a president? And then wants to file it all under “racism?” Give me a break.
The left doesn’t yet grasp that with the election of Obama whatever residual racism that might exist in America just doesn’t matter. The 2008 election proved that racism in America is trivial. Now the burden of proof must fall upon those who evoke it.
The left doesn’t realize that falsely and continually accusing non-racists of racism does not strengthen their position in any way. It only increases acrimony all around.
Part of me thinks that’s what the left wants to do: spread bitterness all around.
The NYT is saying that the “authorities” were surprised at the size of the crowd. Why were they? The answer is probably self-deception. Camille Paglia recently denounced Democratic Groupthink as responsible for the perception that the Tea Parties and Townhalls consisted of fringe crazies. They covered the story as if it were and then they believed their own talking points.
But I think it wasn’t only the Democrats who were surprised. The groundswell from another point of view was directed as much against the Republican Party as the Democrats. The Republicans too have been acting as if they were clueless, though they have even less excuse for self-deception.
While the specific message of the march was ‘opposition to government, socialistic spending’ the secondary message was probably a vote of no confidence in the leadership in Washington in general. They have lost a large pool of trust; the political elites no longer automatically command respect and authority. Their badges of importance have become albatrosses. The incident in which the CNN was booed can be compared to an incident in which an archibishop is pelted with rotten tomatoes in a traditionally Catholic country. The journalists working for CNN busted their butts to reach the pinnacle; to get recognition, to become someone — only to find themselves the object of derision. It’s like working all your life to get a qualification which has, by some alchemy become a sign of notoriety. In truly revolutionary situation the former elites actually hasten to conceal their finery and try to pass themselves unnoticed as plebians.
But that doesn’t mean that Obama and the elites are finished or even mortally wounded. The problem with spontaneous movements is that they are focused on specific issues and not very capable of addressing abstract problems. The Tea Parties need to affect the hierarchies of politics, either that or they must build some provisional ones of their own. Otherwise, they run the risk of being beaten down in detail; exhausted by Prince Prospero in his castle, waiting out the Red Death. Of course the impending election in 2010 means that Prospero can’t remain holed up forever. Obama must come out of his media castle and face the fact that he has lost a lot of support.
As I’ve written before, President Obama ought by rights in the face of that change in fortune to be seeking a survival strategy based on a move to the center; but he hasn’t and probably won’t. If the recent past is any index, he’ll double down and double down again. Perhaps he thinks its too late to change course now; or perhaps he doesn’t want to, though I think he can still pull a Bill Clinton with a run to the middle, but only just. But every month he hesitates his leftward momentum increases, till finally he can change no more and must face two stark alternatives: political defeat or doubling down again. At some point too much is on the table to lose. Then the game becomes truly zero sum, and democracies should never create zero-sum game situations.
The Tea Party People that showed up are the “nice ones” and didn’t leave a mess behind them.
I suspect there is a possibility that the ones who will act if the Obama crowd succeeds in using “reconciliation” to ram the health and other bills through, have been careful not to show their faces and they are not nice. I think you call it “operational security.”
The thing that keeps a corrupt city from degenerating entirely into gang warfare (a la Dashiell Hammet’s Red Harvest) is the presence of an external source of order. “Chicago” is bounded by the damper of larger society. But what happens if “Chicago” takes over Washington? What’s the damper then? If none exists then the sheer predatory tendencies will run amok and threaten to shake the system to pieces.
In a way the really key event was when the Democratic Party lost internal control over its more dangerous elements. It was a failure in the Democratic Party perhaps, and only secondarily a failure in the Republican Party, that let the thugs grasp the final rungs of power. It “couldn’t happen”, but where do things go if it has happened? Stepping back from the problem, if I had resources enough to fix only one thing it wouldn’t be the Republican Party; it would be the Democratic Party.
But that’s not going to happen now. The last best hope is the grassroots in alliance with whatever men of goodwill it can still find in the political class. Then they can steer clear of the rapids. Then they can clean house through elections. But the thugs will of course fix, cajole, resist and menace. They may even kill. But that has to be endured in order to fix things through the proper working of the system. If not, then the bad dynamic simply has to be endured until it burns itself out. How sad and strange it would be if one had to wait until City Hall grew silent; until the timid survivors approached its hulk, rent from internecine struggle, to find the players all prostrate with their hands around each others throats, and inherit the earth, as I suppose our mammalian ancestors did a world in which the dinosaurs had torn themselves apart.
RE: Wretchard @32. You articulated precisely what I fear now. The interim success of the Tea Parties to attract so many people is being interpreted prematurely as the beginning of a possible tectonic shift. You say:
“But that doesn’t mean that Obama and the elites are finished or even mortally wounded. The problem with spontaneous movements is that they are focused on specific issues and not very capable of addressing abstract problems. The Tea Parties need to affect the hierarchies of politics, either that or they must build some provisional ones of their own. Otherwise, they run the risk of being beaten down in detail; exhausted by Prince Prospero in his castle, waiting out the Red Death.”
Enthusiasm is very hard to sustain, especially when its greatest charm is also its greatest weakness, namely its spontaneity and its lack of hierarchy and organization.
The most dangerous proposal of President Obama, by far, is the health care “reform.” Everything else can be reversed by a future administration but health care changes will become addictive and impossible to retract once they are in effect, no matter how bad they are eventually discovered to be.
A slight aside to make a point: the Presidential debates themselves do not immediately affect voter preferences. It is only after bits and pieces are presented over the following two to three days, with pundit explanations of what they mean, that they truly take root. So too with the Tea Parties. If they are ignored by the MSM, the general public who did not participate will barely notice they happened. Only by having them talked about and shown repeatedly over the next two to three days will they have the impact they deserve.
I hope I am wrong. I am impressed that the Tea Party movement has sustained itself for as long as it has. To expect its momentum to continue to build for the next 13-14 months, however, is premature. Was Jefferson’s exact statement, “The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.” That takes a lot of sustained concentration, enthusiasm, stamina, and courage.
The Main Stream Media covered up and whitewashed Van Jones, the Communist. So a little rethinking is in order.
What else has our media covered up.
A man, walks on water, out of the bowels of Chicago and one wonders what he may have left behind.
wretchard #32, Batman #35
The history of socialist revolution is that they strike when popular support begins to shrink. That is, convinced as they are of “false consciousness” as a barrier to their democratic final victory, and imbued with confidence in their role as a revolutionary vanguard, when the other side starts moving up is perceived as the right time to turn over the table, or, in Lenin’s immortal words, to “reach for my revolver”.
I do think there is some chance that, if Barry’s power in Congress begins to shrink, that he and his Politburo will decide to go for the gold.
This coverage seemed to me to be reasonable, even sympathetic to the demonstrators:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp=32813988�
Just saying.
Or maybe MSNBC is sensing the way the wind is blowing.
Another LOTR analogy comes to mind. The forces of hate that demand submission are spreading and sapping the will of the West. They are in a race against time because they must irretrievably weaken the forces of life and love and creativity before the internal contradictions and hatreds within the forces of death tear them apart. Remember how Sam went into the Tower of Cirith Ungol to rescue Frodo and discovered that the forces of Mordor and the perverted city of Minas Morgul had torn each other apart in an orgy of mutual destruction? The thread on the death of Blago’s fixer shows the process may be at work.
42 seats in the house need to change to GOP control. That is a huge number in one election. Even with Blue Dog defection on occasion, that is a huge number to attain much less maintain.
How would the Blue Dogs go about wresting control of the party from the likes of Code Pink, Madam Pelosi or Howard Dean, or the numbers of Democrats that took the junket to Damascus, or Paris or Hanoi. Reforming the Democrats is a mighty tall order. Hummmm, a third party would have to have started before now, but there may be hope that more and more blue dogs and traditional conservatives will see that President Reagan’s coalition was based on core principle and not on convenience.
GM, I do not think the numbers who would support such action are yet sufficient or solid in their belief that such acts are likely to succeed if attempted, nor likely attempted due to lack of likely long term success. But such things are difficult to measure. I think I will cleave to my guns a while longer and tote my ammo. (Optional, religious text of choice will of course be within thumping reach.)
Gotta love the founding fathers.
So how about starting in California, what are the prospects of gaining Democrat House seats there?
I take it that the Stalin photo is in lieu of the imbedded video that isn’t anywhere to be found this morning (along with CNN footage on the event and other MSM posted video efforts (although the still shots are mostly still there), and not the lack of trash in the Capitol this morning. Or is that the fate awaiting Pelosi and Blue dogs at the hands of the Democrat faithful, if the Government money grab, I mean,option (aka Health Insurance reform) is not passed,
Of course president Obama can be seen everywhere on the news organization web sites, looking to his left from where the accusation was loosed. But no crowds chanting “liar, liar” or any such rational reaction to the speech so long ago in news time.
Wade, What it will take is for 56 people to stand together and take control of all congressional legislation. They must not break ranks. They will be required to make the same pledge as the founding signers of the Declaration of Independence. Once they coalesce into a solid block that will staunch the flow of Statism. It will not turn it back. That job will fall to the people of the United States and their desire to see our country returned to it’s foundation of the Constitution as it was written originally and see that it’s application is equally applied to ALL Americans. Then we will see a new day dawn across the planet and other peoples will see that with sacrifice and commitment to the Natural rights of man. All the people of planet earth can be free of tyranny. Once that happens you will not see war between nations.
Humanity will not see the end of the human desire to control others. This is due to our genetic predisposition to security above all else. This goes to Whiskey’s theory. And I believe that it is what drives the left. They have all the earmarks of someone who is scared. Driven by their mental demons into hysteria. This is enabled through a lack of a morality system.
Someone once said, “The Devil’s greatest trick was to convince a plurality of the people that it doesn’t exist.”
“How would the Blue Dogs go about wresting control of the party from the likes of Code Pink, Madam Pelosi or Howard Dean, or the numbers of Democrats that took the junket to Damascus, or Paris or Hanoi. Reforming the Democrats is a mighty tall order.”
Happened in the New Mexico state house a few years back as more moderate Democrats ousted the old boy corrupt leadership when they got the Republicans to join them in the vote for the leadership positions. The minority Republicans gave up the habitual proforma vote for one of their own and instead aligned with people who at least they could deal with and remove the power of the old boys who’d sat for years.
You’d still end up with Democrats in control, but I suspect you’d see new bodies leading not only the proceedings but also the committees. The Blue Dogs should be reminded that for Speaker Pelosi, they’re all expendable. However, I suspect that tactical maneuver is well beyond the existing Congressional Republican mental capacity.
Be careful clicking on links to “9/12 tea party” when you search for other pictures and news. Someone is going to a large amount of trouble to disseminate a drive by virus to those looking for such news.
I am interested to know how it why it is that Houston is fictional home of Belmont Club? I grew up there…
Buck, It relates back to an earlier post by Wretchard on the topic of how to extend the blogger evolution into the making of communities online that have a meatspace entity. As such L3 started a twitter nexus and then ported it over here to make sure he was getting saturation levels.
Back to where Wretchard’s topic started. Wretchard then recognized L3′s efforts and out of that the fictional home of “The Belmont Club” resides in Houston, TX and not in Australia where Wretchard is living at this time. Although his history is from the Phillipines.
One must really try to keep up old boy. This blog moves quick.
The Perspicacious Wretchard: “Otherwise, they run the risk of being beaten down in detail; exhausted by Prince Prospero in his castle, waiting out the Red Death. Of course the impending election in 2010 means that Prospero can’t remain holed up forever.”
This is one of the many reasons why I continue to enjoy reading Richard Fernandez’s bloggings. He found a clever way to use an allusion to Edgar Allen Poe’s Masque of the Red Death.
I dunno, I’m still not ready to take it seriously, either the 9/12 protest or the Obamanation. I don’t fear Chicago machine politics, so much as naivete and lack of basic competence in the Obamanites. The protests need an actionable focus and maybe some elected leaders who will attend and make speeches.
I could be much more enthusiastically anti-Obama if there were anything in the Republicans (or even elsewhere in the Democrats) that I’d rather see in office (yes, I know, swing a dead cat). I still feel that Pelosi and Reid in positions of authority, are at least on a par as damaging to our government and its credibility, as Obama, Biden, Emanuel, and Hildabeast.
JFSanders031,
The blog was attacked, I forget by who, with the “slur” that it was Houston based. So we all started claiming to be secret Texans. It was an “I am Spartacus” moment.
LotM, you are quite correct. I neglected to add that into the post. Thank you for picking up my fumble.
Josh, you are just joshing us right? You don’t have enough actionable intel? Your that guy, that can’t believe his own eyes and walks into the bar in the middle of a brawl.
“The White House said Friday it was UNAWARE of the rally. President Obama has traveled to Minneapolis, Minn., to promote his health-care plans at a rally there.”
That says it all. “Unaware” of that many voters!
Did you see any of his rally in Minnesota?
I’m sure most everyone there were bussed in and paid supporters (like all the other Obama rallies) except for the local liberals there to support it.
Minneapolis, you have your targets. Hold the liberals there accountable for every cent spent by your local and state governments!
We have to throw away the “rules”, get dog dirty mean, and expose these criminals for everything they really are. In every state, make sure your legislators know they will be “judged” by their actions over the next few weeks! Phone, e-mail, letters, aren’t enough. Track these guys/gals down and talk directly to them on videotape. Let them know if they can’t support the constitution that you’ll vote for somebody who will, and will actively campaign against them!
Now is their time to decide, are they on the side of the people, or of communism/socialism?
Let’s get video on all of them, anywhere we can, and post it on u-tube. Just make sure they know they are being monitored, for all the world to see, as much as possible, till they slip, and we’ve got the goods on them, just like ACORN!
BHO is planning on ramming his health care plan down our throats no matter what it costs in terms of “Chicago” politics, ’cause it is key in the eventual defeat of freedom by tyranny.
And FREEDOM is what it’s all about.
I agree with Josh to the extent that Pelosi and Reid are flat out insane yet there is no movement to oust them.
Obama is a quarterback and the congress and senate are his offensive line. Obama is a fresh face welcomed by many but Reid and Pelosi are enabling the extreme wrecklessness of the administration. This perfect storm would never happen without the current make up of congress.
and to some extent I think that Bush, Bernake, and McCain threw the election. Its just a gut feel but seems to me back in October, the message was something like, gee, capitalism doesn’t work and we have ruined everything. Whatever you do panic. Do not plan for a future, your government is going to try to save you from the disaster that we created, but please… light your hair on fire and run around in circles while we spend all of your money. America demanded change and all they got was this tee shirt. The Repubs handed the ship of state to Obama and said; Its broken, do what you want with it.
Meanwhile, Obama is hell bent on changing the very character of the united states into a post industrial union shop. Service unions over lorded by what is in effect a union of lawyers who decide what behavior is acceptable and what is not. This amalgamated with enviro-Nazi’s and you have your perfect storm capable of sinking the ship of state and planting it on an immovable rock of corruption and class warfare.
There, that was cheery.
The troll’s claim that 2 million concerned citizens were all racists is so appallingly stupid that it makes dialogue with said idiots impossible. I can talk to my dogs and every now and then am pleased when they grasp a word, but we haven’t had a discourse on whether the Dodgers have enough starting pitching to win it all or whether the spread formation is a long term revolutionary change in football offensive strategy. Yes we did is a fool with no skin in the game of continued economic stability in the USA, a parasite only able to survive on the money coerced out of others by government brutality.
Annoy Mouse (Love that moniker!):
Interesting take on throwing the election, by which I assume you mean figuratively rather than any overt plan.
But Bush was a total non-factor, except for being the rallying cry for the liberals. He was, and it may very well have been the only logical course, totally cut out of the Republican “efforts” at winning he election.
McCain was a dismal choice from the get-go. I suspect there were a few million like me who only voted for him because of Sarah Palin. I am slowly coming around, though, in believing that McCain would not have been quite as bad as Obama, but it certainly is not a headlong rush.
Bernanke is a toad. It wouldn’t surprise me to find out he was selling out, I guess.
I was on the mall yesterday. There was a decent sized crowd there. imho it ran to about 100k–from the capital, around the reflecting pool and up a lawn square toward the lincoln memorial. a very interesting and good matured crowd. one guy ran around the reflecting pool with a sarah palin cape. There were no jumbotrons so I couldn’t see the speakers. I could hear them but whatever they said didn’t seem all that important. the crowd was generally middle aged and up. no packs of teenagers. all teenagers came with their folks. there was a fair sprinkling of people in their twenties.
I’ve seen bigger crowds. The biggest was stand in the Gap back in 2000 or so. That one had over 1 million men. The crowd went from the capital to the Washington monument. It was bigger than the million man march but got no coverage at all. Just as the pro viet nam war demonstrations were generally bigger than the anti war demonstrations back in the 60′s… but they got no media coverage so they were non events.
There were just huge numbers of placards. They were not the result of big organizations but rather of creative individuals and small groups. A lot of them just cracked me up; it was just a total hoot to wander around reading them. alas like great jokes that I hear –I can’t remember any but the the rudest ones that don’t bear repeating.
All and all, a pleasant day to be on the mall. I didn’t think that this event was as much of a non event as other non msm gatherings that I’ve been to over the years.
The DC Tea Party was an East Coast affair, so it doesn’t take into consideration how many people in Kansas or Texas or Seattle might be really pissed off, too. My friend and I are looking for another LA-based Tea Party to attend, so for us, it’s still a growth phenomenon. We’ve picked our strong horse to back and it ain’t Obama.
P.S. I’m also actively watching from the sidelines a couple of the more overt and malicious Obamatrons of my acquaintance, one of whom was REALLY obnoxious in the office pre-election and is now teetering on the brink of being fired for incompetence, and the other who has lost all funding and income in the last year also for being incompetent and obnoxious and is now making numerous back and forth trips across the country and to a family condo in Mexico where — quel surprise! — they have a little drug problem and need couriers to ferry stuff around.
Nice try Charles. Really subdued attempt. I might even say, nuanced. Almost a nudge.
The march was magnificent. I feel so uplifted, it was so great to be among our fellow Americans, who were earnest, smiling and determined to do the right thing for America. It was fantastic, and it certainly felt like there were a million people there with us.
We drove to the Dunn Loring Metro station in Fairfax County VA. Even though we were only the second stop on that line, the trains were packed and we had to stand all the way into D.C. At every station we saw happy, cheering crowds with American flags and signs.
The first people who talked to me were an older Dad in a wheelchair and foot cast with his adult son. The Dad said to me “I didn’t come here to see any famous speakers or famous sights. I just wanted to be here!” The two of them drove 1,000 miles from Des Moines, Iowa.
We got off the subway at the Federal Triangle station so that we would be in the middle of the march route up. Coming out of the subway station we were face to face with the Ronald Reagan Building, which brought a smile to our faces and more than a few cheers from the crowd. We walked in the crowded march, with the broad expanse of Pennsylvania Avenue filled from side to side with happy people carrying innumerable handmade signs, and the Gadsen flags nearly outnumbered the American flags, of which we saw thousands. The parade was meant to start at 11:30, but a guy from the Midwest on the packed subway with us said the parade started at 10:30 because the crowds were too large at Freedom Square, the origin and meeting place.
Within minutes, spontaneous chants arose from the crowd, my old favorite from the 1980 Hockey victory – I happened to be stuck, alone in Australia at that time, cheering our unexpected heroes over the phone at 4am with a fellow ex-pat in Oz – so I love that chant. I noticed during the Presidential campaign that McCain rallies often erupted in “USA! USA! USA!” while Obama rallies always went with “O-ba-ma!”
I found myself brimming with emotion being part of this crowd of my fellow taxpaying American compatriots. A few other chants would pop up, like “No you can’t!” but it wasn’t until a woman behind us began singing “America the Beautiful” that I almost brimmed over. If I kept singing at that point, tears would have run down my face. The rowdy crowd’s voice became soft, reverent, as they tried to harmonize gently on our sacred hymn to America.
It was all handmade individual signs, I don’t think I saw two of the same signs anywhere all day. I saw one – 1 – Obama-Joker sign, which of course the Philly Inky ran on the first page today. I didn’t see ANY Nazi signs which were so prevalent during the phony “peace demonstrations” during the Bush administration. One of the most powerful signs was a large, boldly hand-lettered sign that said “The fruits of my life’s work are not your slush fund.”
We talked to a bunch of young guys from Texas who said they were part of a group that came to town on 26 buses. We talked to people from Arkansas, Oklahoma, Ohio, and many other states. I didn’t see anyone who was angry or enraged or anything less than confident and energized, knowing they were doing what they thought best for our country.
My wife’s sign got the most comments, and requests for people to take pictures. Apparently my “Elected to Serve not Rule” and “God Bless Our Troops” are too unremarkable, I guess indicative of their universal agreement among this crowd. Of course, my flag shirt always gets “nice shirt!” comments and smiles of recognition. Still, so many people really loved my wife’s message “There’s Free Cheese in the Mousetrap!”
My wife and I both feel great today, having done our small part to express our values and opinions. It was a FANTASTIC feeling being part of that historically huge crowd. I had never attended a ‘protest rally’ in my life before, a simple fact that I heard people saying over and over.
God Bless America.
Tony
58. JFSanders031:
Nice try Charles. Really subdued attempt. I might even say, nuanced. Almost a nudge.
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does that mean you don’t approve of the Tea Parties — or just that you were not there so you can’t judge properly the merits of the demonstration.
Charles. “does that mean you don’t approve of the Tea Parties — or just that you were not there so you can’t judge properly the merits of the demonstration.”
We’ll just let that sit there and simmer a bit…
Does anybody know who was airbrushed out of the photo with Stalin? Maybe I should recognize them but I don’t.
JFSanders031 @ 50, bar brawl or Obamatons, seems like more of the same ol’ same ol’ to me. I think our nation is suffering something terrible that we would elect such a person, well, I hope the majority knew something good that I didn’t. OTOH … McCain? That’s what I’m talkin’ about, wtf is wrong with the Republicans that they would nominate him?
OTOOH, who would I have preferred? I’m not sure wretchard is qualified, have to see his birth certificate!
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BTW, I think both Bernanke and Geithner are toads, and Alan Greenspan is the Toad King. B&G have managed to kick the can down the road this far by borrowing and printing two trillion dollars, or is it three or four? Greenspan created this mess, as much as any one man did, and the senior management on Wall Street should be stripped of all assets and thrown in prison for life. Madoff’s a piker, compared to Citibank, and this show is nowhere near over. But again, what do I think should have been done? Send the Terminator back in time to 1990, have him kill Saddam Hussein, make Gulf War I unnecessary, maybe making Gulf War II unnecessary, making the unnaturally low interest rates at both times unnecessary. Barring time travel, dunno, so give the toads some props.
62 pachuco
It’s Nikolai Yezhov, former head of the NKVD, shot on Stalin’s orders in 1940. Wikipedia’s account of his Chicago-style end:
According to a witness, just before the execution Yezhov was ordered to undress himself and then was brutally beaten by guards at the order of Beria, the new NKVD Chief, just as Yezhov had ordered the guards to beat and humiliate his predecessor and former mentor Genrikh Yagoda before his execution only two years prior. Yezhov reportedly had to be carried into the execution chamber semi-conscious, hiccuping and weeping uncontrollably.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Yezhov
Charles – he means that you’re a provocateur, trying to subtly impugn the success of the day. A nay-sayer, even. I tend to agree.
pachuco: That is Nikolai Yezhov. He rose to head of the NKVD (Commissar of Internal Affairs) in the 1930′s. He was an very early Bolshevik, but under him the Purges reached their highest and bloodiest peak. Along with Stalin and some of his other henchmen, Yezhov was one of the great murders of history. He later fell out with Stalin, and was executed in 1940 or so.
Incidentally, at the time of the photo, i believe, he was the “Water Commissar” for all Russia, and I gather that is why they are by that canal.
Also, that is Molotov, I believe, to Stalin’s right.
RE: @47 Could the mention of Prince Prospero be a double allusion to The Mask of Red Death and The Tempest? Perhaps BHO is living by the reality of illusion.
See also Thomas Mann’s Confessions of Felix Krull, especially chapter 5 of Book 1 in which young Felix goes to the theater. It is one of the best literary descriptions of the reality of illusion I have come across.
Yes, BC is a wonderful site.
65. NahnCee:
Then both of you are dead wrong. Unless of course you believe that O will be a two term president. Then yes. If you believe that O will be a 1 term president, then maybe.
I lived in DC from the late 60′s through the early 70′s. I saw the manipulativeness of the Nixon white house and the implacable hatred of his enemies (from his huac days) armed with the then new media television — as television was cresting in its power.
these days remind me of that. we have a new media, a totally manipulative presidency. what we don’t have yet is the implacable hatred toward a man that builds up over decades. (for that the better nixon/huac anger analogy would have been Kerry/swift boaters}
Todays anger is of a different order. It is deeper and colder and diffuse… but slowly getting less diffuse.
Batman: Also see Auden’s The Sea and the Mirror, a wonderful poetic exploration of the same topics.
Tony: Good for you, and good for your wife. I could not make it but i have similar emotions. I am just elated.
Don51: Actually I think it may not be that far fetched in the US Congress. Some of those fellows are sharper than I certainly give them credit for, and it may come down to such a stand as opposed to losing the seat in the next election. I think there will be a lot of change in DC come December of 2010.
JFSANDERS031 56 to fillabuster (?), but not control.
Any one notice a tendency on the part of president Obama to get caught up in verbal entanglements with fellows named Joe? No allusions to the photo, but that could well be one fate that would be ironic, seeing as it would be at the hands of a real party goer, like the one pictured.
Thanks Mongoose.
Charles – the current movement is not anti-Obama anger, it is pro-America fidelity.
And unlike the liberals’ fake “peace movement” it will not go away with a change of the party in the White House.
Wade, 56 to show the path to the others. To refound the Republic and the country for which it stands. But can filibuster if need be to stop any and all veering by those that steer the ship of state.
Charles, I may be dead wrong. But your statements tell me otherwise. You may believe your statements are sound and reasonable. But to me they smack of marginalisation and poo pooing of the reality. Just because you don’t like what you see. Anger is not the only emotion that drives a people toward change. Me I am past being angry. I am tired and almost to the point of pushing the issue so I can go home. I have a job to do and all this milling about and dicking around is keeping me from it. So if you would be so kind as to STFU about the piddling differences between this pol and that pol and concede that the lot of them aren’t worth a tinkers’ damn. Join in the fray and pick your side son. Cause there will be a dance, of that you can be assured. The hardcore marxist/statist among the population will demand it of us, ALL OF US.
9-12: Anybody seeing the crowds in DC yesterday could easily mentally compare it to a full stadium at The Big House in Ann Arbor (110,000) or the Horseshoe in Columbus (107,000) and see that that crowd was easily into multiple 6 figures. I would love to see an overhead aerial shot, but suspect the Secret Service would frown on that.
Not reported nationally were solidarity rallies across the country for those of us unable to travel to DC. Our rally at the State Capitol in Providence had 400-600 folks on a cool gray day that threatened rain all day. I was glad to be able to speak to the crowd of the travesty that is Cap and Trade. The Oathkeepers presentation was especially moving, with vets and law enforcement folk renewing their pledge to uphold and defend the Constitution. As grass roots as Kentucky Blue, all of it.
The last best hope is the grassroots in alliance with whatever men of goodwill it can still find in the political class. Then they can steer clear of the rapids. Then they can clean house through elections. – Wretchard
Kudos to all the participants in both the D.C. march and others around the country. My wife and daughter have attended Tea Party related events. I have not. I appreciate the action, but feel it’s largely a waste of time. 10 million could have shown up in D.C. and stayed for a month, and the MSM and government would still treat it like a small gathering of racist crazies. Even though the media is reporting that Congressmen (mainly conservative Democrats) are balking at party line support of leftist Obama policies such as nationalized single-payer health care, it doesn’t matter. In the end, the Democrats will enforce party discipline, enough liberal Republicans will deal with the Dems, and their agenda will pass.
All the “Tea Party” organizing won’t do more than the “Contract with America” accomplished in the 1990′s, which was precious little to nothing of lasting significance. I’m negative on the GOP because it’s been the “do nothing” party since Reagan, and Reagan was rolled by the Congressional Dems on taxes his second term. To fully understand the futility of the GOP, reflect on how many years GOP Presidents have held the White House since WWII, versus how many conservative USSC and lower level judges have been successfully appointed and confirmed into office. The GOP record is: FAIL, FAIL, FAIL, even when they held majorities in the Congress, and/or had a GOP President in office.
So, now the people are taking to the streets, but what will they ultimately accomplish? Oh, perhaps they’ll form the nucleus of a new, more effective conservative party, and in oh…say, 30 years, they’ll accomplish something. By then I’ll probably be dead and my kids will be tax-slaves or worse.
The ONLY thing that the politicians understand, LEFT wing, RIGHT wing, or “centrist”, is $MONEY$. If the Tea Party organizers can figure a way to organize a genuine national revolt which deprives the government of revenue in a significant way, THEN organized, grass roots resistance will mean something. Take their money away by depriving them of yours, and these a**holes will run for the hills. Whether it’s some sort of “pay no taxes” campaign, or selecting certain days to “do no business”, or perhaps “buy no Christmas presents”, it has to be a national campaign with monetary teeth, to kick these little wanna-be-dictators on their ass.
I don’t know how to accomplish this on a scale significant enough to protect individuals from government prosecution and persecution. If it’s not “too big to fail”, i.e. if just a few individuals take part, then Obama and the Dems can use legitimate laws and government agencies to the confiscate property, arms, money, and ultimately the liberty of those who choose to participate. 100 is too few, 10,000 is too few, perhaps even 100,000 participants are too few, but how many are “enough”?
I just don’t know any other way of beating them and restoring a true Constitutional Republic as the Founding Fathers intended other than by defunding them. Politics has failed conservatives and the Constitution over and over again. The GOP? It’s a total, useless joke.
(There ya go; now everyone here knows that OldSalt is one of those “whacko, bomb throwing type nuts..”, i.e. by advocating a probably illegal action.)
Old Salt,
Naw, no need, no worry, hey? You have to remember the economic policies of president Obama will deprive him of enough revenue to ensure failure, All by themselves. You can hear the sputter and diesel and smell the attendant foul odor now, as they just haven’t found the choke point yet.
Wadeusaf,
Interesting analogy, we can push it further. Cash for Clunkers Obama is pouring the silicate into his own car’s engine. The fine old machine is fighting back and coughing but he is determined to kill it. Once it dies he expects someone to give him a new car to drive. The Blue Dogs who were riding in the back seat are getting nervous.
73. JFSanders031:
I looked at Wretchard’s video above. If you look at the video above its from 8:00-11:30. That’s a much larger crowd than the one I saw. Now I understand your point. It was the size of the crowd. Yeah actually I didn’t arrive until 1:30 at which time crowds were already streaming away. Its tough to hand around the mall more than two or three hours. I only lasted about two hours. People rallied, made the march to the capital and then most went home.
There’s a joke about three blind men asked to describe an elephant. One touched its leg and said the elephant was like a tree. Another touched the elephant’s trunk and said the elephant was like a big python. A third touched the elephant’s tail and said the elephant is like a ropy wisk broom.
I touched the elephant’s tail. (Which would also explain the elephant dung.)
“”"”" 40. Wadeusaf:
42 seats in the house need to change to GOP control. That is a huge number in one election. Even with Blue Dog defection on occasion, that is a huge number to attain much less maintain. “”"”"
The New Deal was, for all intents and purposes, halted after the 1938 mid-term elections, when the GOP made big gains, re-establishing themselves as a viable opposition. They did not regain control of either house, but, working with Southern Democrats, among others, they blunted the collectivist agenda of the FDR White House.
If the GOP gains 20-25 seats in the House, and makes equivalent gains in the Senate (or at least, lowers the threshold well below the cloture-proof 60 seats for the Democrats), then they will become an effective force for change.
Old Salt #75: Yes, perhaps “10 million could have shown up in D.C. and stayed for a month, and the MSM and government would still treat it like a small gathering of racist crazies.”
But no small part of the gathering’s purpose was to show the gatherers themselves what’s up with their own motivation and to build on that.
I’ve been to two Tea Parties at the Sacramento Capitol in Calif., including for the Aug 28 departure of the cross-country caravan to DC that just concluded, and being there solidified my own dedication. The cheerful CHP trooper who spoke to we ad-hoc volunteers explained that only one demonstrating group at a time has a permit to be on the Capitol grounds, and we’re it today, so be sure to report at once any infiltration by ACORN or SEIU and they will be removed. He added that previous Tea Parties there were the best-behaved of any group to use the Capitol grounds and west steps.
Rome wasn’t rebuilt in a day.
64. PA Cat:
Thanks for the refresh. I believe his reign was known as the Yezhovshchina – the second of the two great purges, each of a million dead.
The reason I trouble to post – surely people here know Yezhov, Yagoda, Beria already – is to remark how strikingly, in the Wiki photo,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ezhov.PNG
he looks just like Barack Obama! No, I am not kidding. Look at the face! Lighter of course, but it is a B&W photo. Someone with more talent than I must make art of this.
Old salt said:
…selecting certain days to “do no business”…
How about Sundays?
83. El_Heffe:
Why not sunset Friday to sunset Saturday? I have never understood how you fellows lost track of time so. But yes, I take your point, lol.
Any news/update from the first Inaugural Belmont Club in Houston event?
Nichevo – That photo is a dead ringer. The ears are a little small though.
Nichevo, yezhovshchina was not the era per se, but the bundle of method used during it. The term later shifted it’s meaning slightly to mean the duration of Yezhov’s terror, as well.
The resemblance… uncanny. Almost inclined to start believing in reincarnation with a transfer of some somatic features.