Her mother was in on the honor/horror killing; her brother and a paternal relative knew about it — if not in advance then immediately afterward. Her brother, Ali, had begun to call his sister “vile” names. Ali also believed that she had “dishonored” the family. Her own mother, Seham, viewed her daughter as “dirty,” as someone who was living with a “dirty” woman, a “liar.” She even told her daughter that she was no longer her mother — that the “dirty” woman was now her mother.
My main question: Will the Arizona police haul in Seham and Ali as accomplices to this honor/horror killing? European courts have begun to do just this. Will America follow suit or not?
Kudos to Paul Rubin, who has written a long and excellent journalistic account of the Noor Al-Maleki honor/horror killing in a suburb of Phoenix, Arizona. Rubin obtained access to unreleased police records. I also tip my hat to Jeffrey Imm of R.E.A.L., who brought Rubin’s article to my attention.
Noor (left) with her friend, ASU student Sana Ameen
Allow me to draw some important conclusions from Rubin’s detailed account.
The honor/horror killing family will never tell the police the truth. It will have to be dragged out of them. Evidence will have to face them down. Even then, they will keep “spinning” the story. This was the case with the Kingston, Canada, mass honor/horror murders, and it is the case here.
Thus, at first, Noor’s mother, Seham, said she knew nothing, did not know where here husband Faleh was, had no idea how he had gotten away, did not know if he had tried to kill their daughter or not. However, according to cell-tower records, the police found out that “within minutes of Faleh’s fleeing the bloody scene, he spoke by cellphone to his wife, to their son Ali, and to at least two other members of his extended family.” At first, Seham Almaleki, who had been in California at a job, claimed that “all she knew was that there was a family problem of an unspecified nature.” When the police told her that her husband had “intentionally slammed into Noor and Amal (the older woman with whom Noor was living), this is all Seham said: “This woman is a liar. This woman is dirty. Her family is dirty.”
Not a word of concern about her daughter. The police “got it.” Therefore, when Seham said that she wanted to see her daughter immediately, they did not allow Seham to visit the hospitalized and unconscious Noor. Seham’s response? “I’m a danger?” Seham shouted. “I’m a Muslim. We can’t kill our daughter.”
For the record: I am about to publish a second study about honor killings on five continents in Middle East Quarterly, and it does seem to be a primarily Muslim-on-Muslim crime. Please note: The victim is a Muslim — which should appeal to those sympathetic to Muslim persecution — but alas, the perpetrators are also Muslim, which means that to mention this will be seen as “Islamophobic,” racist, fascist, etc.
Back to the timeline, the police records, and Seham’s lies. The police learned that a young man of Middle Eastern origin and a “veiled” woman had picked up a prescription for diabetes in Faleh’s name. Veils are exceptionally useful for committing crimes. Ali finally admitted that his father had called him before the murder to tell him to “man up” because his father would not be around any longer. And Seham finally admitted that yes, she and her son had picked up the medicine for Faleh — but that subsequently, “she’d thrown the pill bottles out of her car window, though she couldn’t come up with a reason for having done so.” (Faleh had his medicine with him when he was apprehended in the UK).
Seham continued to adamantly blame Amal, another woman, for what her husband had done. As the author of Woman’s Inhumanity to Woman (which I was recently interviewed about), I am not at all surprised by a mother betraying her own daughter and blaming another woman for her husband’s crimes.
Perhaps we need to coin a new word. Opposing honor murders may be viewed as Islamophobia, but it is also Muslimophilia–supporting the rights of Muslim human beings to live. The girls and women who are the potential victims of honor murders need our support–the support of Muslimophiles–who want them to survive and have happy, productive lives.
Does Faleh sound mentally unbalanced? No. He sounds crazy, but not necessarily psychotic. When cultures go crazy, individuals who are not mentally ill unite with the insanity of their societies.
Contrast Bemidbar 6:22 – 26 (Bemidbar = Numbers) with the justifications of those who carry out “honour killings”.
Two very different pictures emerge.
I would hope the state laws allow for the family to be tried as accomplices. If any of them had knowledge of what the father was going to do, they are all equally guilty.
I think anyone in the family who knew about this is an accomplice. They should all be tried for murder. I hate calling it an “honor” killing; it is not one bit honorable. It is shameful.
If Muslims want to practice honor killing and other vile crimes, they should be sent back to where they came from. No if and buts, just buy them a one way ticket to their Islamic land where they can practice whatever they want. It is so disgusting to even write about their vile behavior and we allow their immigration to this country. I don’t buy the argument that not all Muslims practice this but how do we distinguish who does and who doesn’t. That is why we must stop all Muslim immigration to this country.
6. Jaladhi: I find your comment ignorant, offensive, and it does not make sense. I had a Muslim Roommate my senior year of school, and I have never met a nicer person. She ended up going to Johns Hopkins for a PHD in epidemiology. If she was not allowed to come to this county she never could have met her potential. Our country is possible the most tolerant of religious expression in the world, and I am proud of that. If you throw one group out who is next? If Noor had not been allowed into the country she might not have become Americanized and killed by her family, but while she was here she was free to be herself and make her own decisions. Is that not what our country is about, allowing people the freedom to live how they want. If anything letting Muslims in lessens the likely hood of the person in the states being killed. What we need to do is show how the country will not accept this type of behavior and punish everyone who had fore knowledge of the crime.
Brian, you’re full of Shite.
You are missing one thing. Radicalization is taking place in North America. When you have people crossing borders to get to Iraq or Afghanistan, that should send up
a red flag.
Coming here has strings attached: namely that you’ll obey the law.
If they want to perform Honor Killings… fine… just don’t do it here when it’s illegal… or at least don’t be surprised when the cops show up.
We’ll let you practice your religion but we won’t stand for murder.
“Or like a mentally unbalanced man?”
This man does not sound like he is mentally unbalanced in the legal sense. He seems to have more than enough on the ball to comprehend that murder is against the law in his new chosen homeland. It also seems obvious that he is aware of leftist “multicultural” ideology. He hopes that this postmodernist approach to American law can be used as a defense in the courtroom. Somebody long ago pointed out that woman could be a feminist or a multiculturalist—but not both. They would have to make a choice between the two conflicting world visions.
At least we have Obama championing the right to wear a veil! His courageous fight for the rights of Muslim women is truly, er, insipid. No it is worse than that. It’s willful anti-women.
Islam like “liberalism”, is a malignant mind infestation. It’s a disease like syphillis, and its adherrents need to be rooted out of their shadowy hidey-holes and treated like the diseased plague carriers they are. Noor was on the road to recovery, and her family killed her for it. Run the murdering heathens up against a wall and be done with the whole sick lot of them!
Brian N, I appreciate your sentiments and I too have known lovely Muslims who appreciate the United States and would never behave in a barbaric manner like beating or killing those who simply disagree with them.
But Jaladhi has a point. We have so many challenges facing us already, from multiculturalism to a future of crushing national debt. It is not unreasonable to wonder if it’s worth the trouble and potential pain of adding more people from hostile cultures. I am absolutely against mass deportation, but I’m not sure continuing global immigration as we are is good.
Congratulations (again) on your great work, Ms. Chesler. Here in Ireland, the media is conducting an all-out 24/7 campaign against the Catholic church with regard to the child abuse scandal. The media considers that the whole of the Catholic church is scandalised and they have now enjoined the campaign against Pope Benedict. I have repeatedly asked that same media if they might spare a moment to question Islam and its tradition of murdering young women “for honour” and also for conducting forced marriages of child brides. They do not even bother to answer my question, let alone cover the story. If anybody attempts to say anything at all negative about Muslims, you are quickly told that it is “only a minority of Muslims” who behave in such a way: the same media ignores the fact that it is only a minority of Catholic priests who are guilty of the horrific child abuse. And this is the media which preaches “equality”! Éamonn, Dublin, Ireland.
Given the threats made by the “Sons of Allah”, as Orianna
Fallaci called them, ink stained wretches look on what happened to Daniel Pearl, Zahra Kazemi, and other reporters, and they conclude, “No, I don’t want to die like that, nor do I want to die anytime soon”.
It is pure intimidation, and it will end, I promise you. The ending will not the death of the last person holding onto Western Culture.
Honor killing! That family has no honor. None. No society, tribe, clan, or religion that tolerates so called honor killings has any more honor than a pig.
Brian N.: I agree that jaladhi’s comment was crudely stated,(“sent back to where they came from”), but your muslim roommate, wonderful as she probably was, is not dispositive of the problem. By allowing immigration by groups whose culture gives them tacit or even overt permission to break our laws, we weaken the nation as a whole. Law enforcement, social services, schools, etc. are burdened.Immigrants do not have to assimilate to be good Americans, but when some of your most deeply held beliefs are illegal, (forced marriage, female genital mutilation, polygamy, honor killings, instructing the young in hatred of other groups, principally the jews,etc.)your group then becomes too great a burden on society as a whole. I believe who we allow into our country is soley the province of the national legislature. In the present economic climate do we have the luxury of taking the Muslim immigrant to raise by showing “how the country will not accept this type of behavior”? Very few Muslims behave badly. However, the larger Muslim society seems to always remain silent, and thereby tacitly condones this behavior. Also, we were not able to show the MD son of Palestine immigrants Nidal Hasan much of anything after his religion gave him permission to shoot 13 people, after a decade plus in the US military. Do you honestly believe that Catholic/evangical christians/jehovah witnesses/mormons/whoever could behave this way without a public outcry?
Yea it is in their book the teaching of muhammad, the constant banging of their head againts the floor while memmorizing it, makes them hypnotically evil at first they seem to look normal and nice but then again somewhere in their brain connects with the teaching that commands them to do these things coupled with the situasion they loses the ability of western reasonings and all hell break loss, I don’t know about you, but I believed of inherent evil and this koran book is for one.
RE: clash of cultures. I think this remark of British General Napier regarding suttee in India is very much to the point: “You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours.”
“Send them back where they came from” is crude, but I don’t see a substantial problem with suggesting that if they do not wish to conform to basic American values–and American law–perhaps they should be urged politely to relocate to places with different values and law.
The idea that it’s racist or whatever to insist on conformity to basic American law and customs is a change from the traditional understanding, which is that immigrants should be welcomed if they wish to become Americans, not simply to live here but outside our law.
I like that bit about second-hand post traumatic stress syndrome. I recently re-read Eugene Sledge’s harrowing memoir of his time in the Marines, “With the Old Breed.” I wonder if I can use that as an excuse for knocking over the local bank.
Has anyone been convicted of her murder in a court of law? Plus, she could have easily been a random victim of violence on a college campus, which are full of white male predators that prey on minority women like they are valueless. Instead of judging Islam and smearing it with a broad brush of racism, hatred, and xenophobia, you should take a more balanced approach. And, let’s not forget we just got done with 8 years of Bush telling everyone who would listen how vile Muslims are and that they are the enemies of America that deserve to be jailed in a gulag with no rights and tortured for no reason. I feel sorry for Muslims that come to this country thinking they would have religious freedom and be able to keep their own personal cultures and traditions intact, only to discover they have no rights and are smeared and slurred at every opportunity.
If they want to live in radical Islam stay in radical Islam. If you want to live in America be American. That means obeying the laws. If you can’t do that then stay in your homeland where you can practice all of your relious and cultural beliefs until your heart’s content.
“I feel sorry for Muslims that come to this country thinking they would
have religious freedom and be able to keep their own personal cultures and traditions intactbe able to murder their daughters”Fixed that for you.
Yeah, Vinny B., like those Duke lacrosse players?
Vinny B., I’m not even American but I know that Bush talked about axis of evil and extremists. Like any politician he was careful not to insult Muslims, his fault being that he mistakenly thought that there was such a thing as moderate muslims.
“Is Being “Americanized” a Capital Crime in America For Muslim Women?”
Well, yeah. >:-(
@manuel 11 paleologos:
…” or religion that tolerates so called honor killings has any more honor than a pig”.
and, i might add, apologies to pigs.
These murders are always extremely violent. These fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, cousins, and, uncles, and grandparents don’t give their daughters an overdose of barbiturates so that they drift off into sleep. They beat, stab, strangle, run over, behead, and shoot their daughters, often raping them beforehand.
We need to really contemplate what sort of culture could accept such savagery. We need to ask ourselves if it’s possible for them to live peacefully among us and if we benefit in any way whatsoever by having them here. Harsh? I don’t think so. There are entire underground railroads here dedicated to whisking away men who murder their daughters. Entire communities protect these men.
Is that what we really want here?
You hit the nail on the head; do they benifit our country or do they cause an undue burden? That needs to be asked and answered honestly and not PC’ly.
muslims should …go home…where they can all be miserable together and quit spreading their crap. lepers use to be confined together..muslims need to do the same..disgusting “religion” that follows a rapist, pedophile etc and try to spread their mayhem around.. We have enough problems in the world without people that kill their young women.
Oh go ahead, yell, scream , say what you will..it is a disgusting practice and you cannot change that fact!!
I would like to see their entry to our country stopped, no matter the reason.
Why is the main stream media ignoring this?
Realizing that when coming to America means becoming American, is not the intent. Europe is as far along if not farther than we are with this.
Understanding tribalism is not easy for western civilizations, it is but a word. Maybe part of the residency requirements could be not killing you family because they are willing to assimilate into the society in which you sough refuge.
Refusing to apply our laws to the muslims who chose to live here is pure cowardice, amounting to preemptive dhimmitude. This is probably the most dangerous part of the “anything goes” culture. If we don’t fix the culture, we can’t fix anything else. Our military veterans of this generation, having seen danger and islamic societies up close may become our next class of leaders. This has happened before. Many companies have been run successfully by retired soldiers of all ranks. No university teaches leadership, but the experience of honor and courage in life threatening situations does.
After Vietnam, the soldiers were vilified in the most immoral way. Let’s not let it happen again, and let’s restore our American pride among the youth, so we may also have a model to offer to immigrants particularly vulnerable to cultural shock. Immigration becomes a positive process when its outcome is assimilation. How can you have assimilation when there is no solid culture to assimilate to?
# 7 Brian N: Spouting the pathetic “I know a nice one” defense just make you look stupid.
I am glad you were able to sum my whole argument into those few words. I can see you dont want to have a discussion or you would not just attack that one line of my comment. Your attack on my message makes you look like you really have nothing to say. In such a case I suggest you say nothing at all until you learn to form a coherent and substantive argument. Finish high school then we can talk.
Brian, I’m proud of you. America see what a 10th grade education will do for you.
I don’t find Jaladi’s comments crude at all, I find those sentiments hugely reflective of how a typical white American male feels about any culture which condones harming or killing children. If you are going to practice honor killing, please do it some place other than America. I find it offensive to the extreme.
America is the melting pot of the world. In this pot there is a mixture of cultures, but at the same time there is a process of assimilation. America accepts the oppressed of the world, but America cannot accept being molded to mirror those oppressive cultures. Immigration needs to be regulated to keep large populations of immigrants from congregating before they assimilate. The children born in America of immigrants generally reflect the ideas and values of America.
This processes of immigration and assimilation is the real strength of America. We are bond together not by some nationality. We are bond together by principles and ideas and in essence becoming a new nationality. When people overseas ask me my nationality, I tell them I am an American. They then begin to argue with me, that American is not a nationality. My father’s family has seen the last immigrant over 200 years ago. On my mother’s side I am a fourth generation immigrant from two countries.
A reactionary position to completely block the Noors from coming to America would be a mistake. The “regular” American often does not appreciate America like the Noors of the world. To many immigration is a problem, but for America, it is our strength. It is an opportunity for the one fleeing oppression. And it is also an opportunity for America to gain a loyal productive citizen. The process just needs some oversight and regulation, not xenophobia.
- ““I’m a danger?” Seham shouted. “I’m a Muslim. We can’t kill our daughter.””
At least we have that exposed: they hide themselves behind that Big Lie called “I am a Muslim, a Follower of the Religion of Peace”. Let’s expose that dreadful Cult called Islam and its Textes, and the same Excuse won’t be used anymore (the Danger: they’ll use another one “I’m a Muslim. We CAN kill our Daughter” …).
- “Please note: The victim is a Muslim — which should appeal to those sympathetic to Muslim persecution — but alas, the perpetrators are also Muslim, which means that to mention this will be seen as “Islamophobic,” racist, fascist, etc.”
Sympathetics sympatize with Islam, not Muslims. They do protect Islam, and in case it culturally orders to kill one’s Daughter because she became a “dirty Westerner”, they they’ll sympatize with it, not with the Daughter and her Life!
- “his father had called him before the murder to tell him to “man up” because his father would not be around any longer. (…) “she’d thrown the pill bottles out of her car window, though she couldn’t come up with a reason for having done so.” (Faleh had his medicine with him when he was apprehended in the UK).”
Now let’s imagine what kind of Man the Son will be, having had such an Example like his Criminal (and proud to be it …) Father. I pray that he’ll never get Children, nor Girls (for obvious Reasons), nor Boys (they’ll follow Grandfather’s and Father’s Example). (…) Now I understand why Muhammad stated “the Hell is full of Women”: (Islamic) Women (and proud to be it …) are really Evil (and there is plenty of Examples of such – filthy – Behaviours).
- “Seham continued to adamantly blame Amal, another woman, for what her husband had done.”
Do you know, a Woman has the Possibility to put her Feet into the (Islamic) Heaven, just if she serves her Husband (“making your Husband happy is going to – Islamic – Heaven”). She’s not merely blaming another Woman for her Husband’s Acts – she is simply protecting her Lord and therefore her Key to (Islamic) Paradise.
- ““If your house has got a fire in just part of the house, do we let the house burn or do we try to stop the fire?””
Typical Islamist Brainwashing’s Expression: let’s imagine if we will apply the same Concept to murderous Islamic Immigration. [The Expression is originally a wise Buddhist one, related to inner Life. Islamists took - as usual - wise Expressions from Others, and turned them into Weapons to further their psychiatrically ill Ideology, manipulating them - for the worst -.]
may her soul rest in peace and may all those involved in her killing receive full justice
Simple solution for America…death sentence for perpetrators and immediate accessories and deport all extended family back to wherever the tribal beliefs just happen to coincide. This needs to be made very clear on entering the country.
Unfortunately, on the bigger scale it does nothing for women in the rest of the world who will still stuff from this seventh century hold over. We are not there keepers and until our own house is clean cannot comment.
As a life-long residient of Dearbornistan, Michigan, I know a thing or two about Islam and Mooooslims.
The bottom line is: we must reduce their immigration or else. Got that?
Islam and the West/USA are incompatible. What part of that don’t you understand?
Let me state what many Americans get wrong, including so called “conservatives”.
The USA is no more a “nation of immigrants” than any other nation in the world. The USA was NOT founded by immigrants – the Founding Fathers were not immigrants and they did not declare independence and liberty, then in the next breath, call out for half the world’s population to immigrate here.
The USA is not obligated to accept half the world – especially with unemployment near 20% these days. Furthermore, Islam/Moooslims are ill-suited to become true Americans because Islam is not only a religion but a political ideology as well and one hostile to the USA and the West in general. Islam is totalitarian, period.
The only way for Western culture to survive is to limit or stop Islamic immigration. No other way.
This is just further proof of how 7th century based Islam is not compatible with the modern world.
AlvinMoop @ #9 is spot-on. And as someone else suggested, if other members of the family knew about this and did nothing to stop it, they should be imprisoned as being accessories to this murder.
Vinny B # @7 – You say: “She could have easily been a random victim of violence on a college campus, which are full of white male predators …” Well, she could have been, but she wasn’t; she was a victim of her own sick political ideology parading around as a religion.
Ernest H ‘Why is the main stream media ignoring this?’
Because it’s caught cold in a lie, the constructed ‘brave new world’ in which ‘we’ doesn’t exist, except as an assertion of ‘cultural superiority’ that is unacceptable in elite circles. In the comment thread on Paul Rubin’s article, a certain ‘Mohamed’ expresses the contempt of the Islamic world for the feminist society of the West. He asserts macho values of family honour and tradition that must be adhered to. His attitudes cannot be criticised because he belongs to a culture that must be respected at all costs. This is the trap of liberalism, and feminism in particular. They have created a tolerant, non-judgmental and non-territorial West in which men are secondary, thereby destroying any chance of asserting those exact same liberal values.
So now they ignore events like this.
It’s the silence that is the scariest thing. They’re out of their depth.
@Vinny B – OK, when you will be the victim of the white predators on campus, we shall take a more balanced approach and let them go, as you could have been the victim of a honour killing.
Well, well, if they cannot keep the tradition of killing others intact, maybe they should seek for another place to go! Because this country is available exactly because there are virtually no real racists, I wonder if you are ready to practice your non-racist ideas in Iraq!
on the bigger scale it does nothing for women in the rest of the world who will still stuff from this seventh century hold over.
But don’t you see? The women support this just as much as the men.
Re: TomF, #10: It seems to me that a big part of the problem is that thanks in no small part to 21st century communications technology, the traditional “melting pot” model doesn’t work anymore. In the past, new immigrants assimilated because they had no other choice; by moving across the ocean they had all but completely isolated themselves from their old countries. There was no international phone service, and international snail mail (there was no other kind before the Internet) took weeks to arrive each way, to the extent that it was available at all. Those days are long gone now. Why bother assimilating to your new country when the old one is always just a phone call or mouse click away?
Brian N, you write:
“6. Jaladhi: I find your comment ignorant, offensive, and it does not make sense.”
My comments are neither ignorant,offensive nor abusive. They simply state the truth about Islam and its followers. Just read my comments in entirety. I said , “If Muslims want to practice honor killing…, they should be sent back where they came from”. If they have no regard for our laws, they have no place here. It’s easy to say they should be prosecuted for such horrible behavior, but that does not solve the problem. I am sure you are aware of several honor killing cases in USA and in Canada during last couple of years. And how many of the culprits are in jail for that – and the poor young girls lost their lives for blotting the perceived honor of their family. This taxi driver from Texas ran away to Egypt after murdering his two teenage daughters(twins). Where is the justice for those two young lives? Another taxi driver from Pakistan killed his daughter in Brampton, Toronto, is perhaps in jails but it’s too late for the daughter.
In Jordan and Egypt, honor killing is a common occurrence and the offenders get six months in jails, hardly a knock on the wrist!!
On the other hand when these murders happen in USA and Canada, authorities refuse to recognize the crime as “honor killing” for fear of offending Muslims, and of course the Muslim groups like CAIR never admit any honor killing dismissing such crimes as just everyday run of the mill crime. Our PC culture is eroding our core values, neither the MSM nor the political leaders want to admit the truth about Islam and its followers.
If it were not for Ms. Chesler and some others, Robert Spencer, Pamella Gellar, we would never hear about these crimes since the MSM would never ever talk about these.
Unless an hard line taken by us, Muslims will bring their seventh century tradition to out country. One should not be offended by the truth. My comments only spoke the truth and nothing else!!!
Jaladhi, don’t play with this trole. He’s a plant. He’s probably part of a boiler room who’s job is to confuse the issues and side with liberal America.
it seems to be an example of the human condition, they try to bring a little bit of their culture with them and recreate it here. its like leftist leave the hell hole they created and move to another area and soon its the same hell hole they left. the issue isn’t the hole they left its the one they wish to recreate.
Hey Vinnie B, FYI George Bush made it a point to say that Islam is the relion of peace and that the fight is with the radical jihadis, not the Muslims people as a whole. You need to get your “facts” straight before spweing your lies.
Regarding the “honour killing of the teenager in Brampton….O don’t know how or if it is resolved but it was a joint act by the father AND the brother.
A bunch of concerned folk collected funds to purchase a stone to mark her unmarked grave and CAIR etc protested and got a restraining order to enjoin (prevent) a grave marker.
Lovely people…..
Thank-you Ms. Chesler for outlining this travesty. While I’m not a strict “when in Rome do as Romans do” type of person, I still think that when living in a country where you are not in the majority, you are obligated to ensure that one’s activities are compatible with the country you’re living in. Thus, if one chooses to live in an Islamic country that does not allow a person to proselytize another religion, I would advise against doing so. Likewise maiming or killing a wife or a daughter who offends a sense of morality one may have brought to this country is still wrong, no matter what moral reference one may have.
Whatever culture advocates this should be cause for preventing immigration to this country. This is nothing less than completely Evil behavior. If the adherents to this line of thinking insist upon behaving this poorly, let them do so in the backward hovels that they come from. There is no reason we should tolerate this behavior here.
I’m not sure your replying to your Statement. Anyway there are some Questions arosen:
what does “when you’re not in the Majority you’ve to respect local Laws” mean?
[not proselitizing in Islamic/-ized Countries is a one-Way Ban: Islamic/-ist people forbid Others to proselitize, but they do proselitize Abroad. AlQaradawi clearly stated the Right of Islamic/-ist people to proselitize Everywhere and the Ban for Others to proselitize (no matter Where).]
Might proselitizing Ban be compared with Honor/Horror murdering Ban? In case of need, could one move to an Islamized Country and kill a (mainly female) Relative of his/hers, because there such killing is allowed/legal?
Might the “not in the Majority” Philosophy totally change, when it becomes “in the Majority”?
[This means "not Honor/Horror killing" 'til you're in the Minority, and yes to "Honor/Horri killing" when you're in the Majority - very soon, considered Islamic/-ist Birth Rate in the West -.]
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Though your Post looks very nice, isn’t it a bit too relativist, and therefore, hiding a great Danger for Humanity and Universal Human Values?
[Thank you.]
” Why is the main stream media ignoring this?”
The Casey Anthony case is taking the spot.
Meanwhile, us legionares out here on the ramparts percieve a republic on the verge of either victory or defeat. We really don’t like defeat, certainly not when we’ve beat the snot out of our opponents a la whack-a-mole. Its seems as though we wish to defeat ourselves. And that we have lost sense of “US” and that some our erstwhile countrymen more closely identify with “THEM”.
It seems like those who get the most from our society are doing thier best to dismantle it and change it into one that is weak. This angers us. We have buried tfar o many of our comrades for this to be allowed to happen.