Fancy that! Al Qaeda does not discriminate on the basis of gender or religion. They not only kill both men and women, Muslim and infidel alike, they also recruit men and women by raping them!
Pink News, which bills itself as “Europe’s largest gay news,” outlet has just confirmed that al-Qaeda uses male rape as a tactic to recruit male human bombers in Algeria.
We have just learned about a Sunni al-Qaeda related plot in Iraq in which terrorists raped eighty Muslim girls and women, then turned them over to Samira Jassim who patiently and persistently persuaded the rape victims, (many of whom had been targeted because they were depressed or mentally ill), to cleanse their shame by blowing themselves and other Muslims up. Twenty eight women did so.
In an interview with Dr. Anat Berko, the author of The Path to Paradise. The Inner World of Suicide Bombers and Their Dispatchers, she pointed out that there is “always a woman” behind the female suicide bomber, who functions like a “pimp or a Madam in a brothel.” Potential women suicide bombers are never alone again, they are always accompanied by at least one, usually older woman, who encourages, manipulates, guards, and supports the potential shaheeda–just like a mother might do. Dr. Berko, who is currently a Visiting Professor at George Washington University, is a criminologist, a Lieutenant Colonel in the Israeli Defense Forces, and a research fellow at the Institute for Counter-Terrorism and lecturer at the Interdisciplinary Center in Herziliya.
In a terrible sense, “Madam” Jassim only exaggerated what is routinely and normatively done to many girls and women today in Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Sudan, and increasingly in countries such as Egypt, Iraq, Algeria, etc. After all, Jassim did her Evil Stepmother maternal dirty work in a culture which fears, despises, shrouds, genitally mutilates, force-marries girls to their first cousins, and perpetrates honor killings. How different is raping them so that they may find glory through jihad? In a sense, isn’t this a quantum career leap and sacred opportunity?
I have written about the routine rape of both male and female children by older boys and men in Arab and Muslim societies many times in the past, in both books and articles. This is one factor which may account for a characteristic life-long “paranoia” and a super-vigilance about shame and honor which afflicts these cultures.
Needless to say, feminist activists and gay-rights activists are silent about these events. Anti-Zionism takes precedence over all other causes. The universality of this prejudice defies explanation. It’s a miracle—a negative miracle.
Why is nobody making the connection that some of the women where victims of Downs Syndrome
http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2009/02/saturday-february-02-2008-demonic.html
Savages. Nothing more than pure evil savages.
feminist activists and gay-rights activists are silent
Wasn’t this in the Pink News? And isn’t Phyllis Chesler a feminist of sorts, if the word means anything at all? I think Ms Chesler is the right kind of feminist – pro-women, whatever their culture, and not the slightest anti-male.
Intersting that male rape victims feel shame. In Arab culture the penetrated one, male or female, is the lower animal. Men who rape, whether women or other men, feel no shame, and a man who rapes another man is not seen as a homosexual. Sex, in Arab culture, is all about power.
What an interesting blog. I was wondering if you ever thought about the following:
1) Do some Muslim terrorists really believe they’ll be rewarded w/ virgins in Heaven?
2) Have you ever explored the notion of tribal inbreeding among some Muslims causing a lower I.Q. contributing to flawed thinking– i.e. not thinking for yourself, not analyzing orthodoxy, not being capable of analyzing anything, etc.
Thanks for your blog Ms. Chesler!
-DQ
What can you expect from a religion that worships a man who married a 6 year-old child and consummated (i.e. rape) it when she was 9. Islam is not a religion, it is an out-and-out cult.
Why is anyone surprised when savages act like savages? This is part and parcel of Jihad, holy war, and in holy war everything is permitted. Rape, baby-killing, everything. Anyone who looks act the history of Islamic warfare will understand this. The only possible defence is to be just as ruthless as they are. Or you will not survive.
Anyone who has spent much time in the Middle East cannot be surprised.
Don’t tell Barney Frank about this.
D.Q.,
Flawed thinking and low intelligence are independent variables. I taught linguistics at the College of Staten Island for many years, and among my students were Muslims, many of whom were very bright indeed.
Blind faith is a force that makes good people bad and smart people stupid. The ability to question is a great blessing. When we stop thinking independently, we are rejecting the glory of the Creation. I explore this issue in my book, THE BLESSED HUMAN RACE.
Pure, unadulterated evil.
“…force-marries girls to their first cousins, and perpetrates honor killings.”
Honey, if we get a divorce, will you still be my sister?
#11 George Jochnowitz – Interesting. I always thought that maturity was the basis of critical thinking. Without a mass of experience, one has no empirical basis. It becomes all theory.
This is why youth are so often sucked into radical causes, because they’re thinking in a vacuum. As they get older, they move away from these ideas, as they gain maturity. Some never do grow out of it, because they refuse to learn from their accumulated experience. You can spot these ones by their aging hippie look/mentality: juveniles who never grew up.
I think others do grow out of it, but never abandon it, because they like the power it gives them. They’ve worked their way up in the ranks, so the theories become validated. “Works for me.” A great example of this is Congressman Barney Frank. It’s naked with him. You can just look at him and see it.
I don’t think blind faith has anything to do with it. For example, I’m a very smart guy. I reason well. Now, I came to religion late in life. I had only been exposed to it once, when I was four. I looked into it when I was a young man, but rejected it as superstitious hooey. After much experience in the world (it has been a hard life), I took another look, and it made sense. I’m a firm believer now, but it doesn’t interfere with my ability to reason: it reinforces it. I don’t depend on just my own life experience, but also upon the wisdom of ages.
You may believe that mine is not blind faith, but any faith simply requires one to step out onto air and walk. This I eventually had to do. Religion cannot be understood until one has faith. I had clues. I stepped out on faith. Voila! It worked!
Thus, my point is, it is not blind faith that intereferes with critical thinking. It is a lack of experience, or a failure to learn from one’s experience; a willful ignorance. Some people never learn.
Considering some of the other ‘stories’ about “motivational” techniques that have come out, this is not surprising. There is no depth to which these barbarians will not stoop to get their own countrymen to do their bidding. They are pure evil.
All this ‘virgin’ business that muslim men aspire to… makes me wonder.
Does the first sexual encounter render the both male and female ‘non’ virgins? All this energy devoted to 72 sexual experiences and after that poof! no more virgins left…and this for all eternity. Aint thinkin further than thier….ok , you get it.
Comment to “Raping Men as a Terrorist Recruiting Tool”:
besides media, i wonder if “Amnesty International” knows about it? or it’s too exchausted to bother, trying to prove Israel’s “crimes”?
Hi George Jochnowitz,
Yes, blind faith/belief is more specifically the problem. I often think about how people I know w/ supposedly “high I.Q.s” do stupid things. Further, regardless of I.Q., people seem to be forced into terrorist acts in the Muslim world. I guess I’m just frustated that it seems almost impossible for there to be a positive cultural revolution to eradicate radical fundamentalism in the Muslim world and I want to know why. Your book sounds interesting!
8. Alex:
“The only possible defence is to be just as ruthless as they are. Or you will not survive.”
~
ACK! Alex, I think we should be tough and not pander to them in ANY way, shape or form but eh…the raping and killing of children need not apply.
Islam believes the world is divided into two parts — Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb. We are DOOMED if we think we can play ‘nice’ with these evil.
Marc Malone, I would suggest that immaturity/youth is only one type of bad thinking. There are simply so many ways we can deceive ourselves.
Phyllis
So the Mother-of-Faith in Iraq leads young women to be raped, then gets them in her clutches, assuring the frightened girls they can redeem their honour by becoming suicide bombers.
Haa this anything to do with a religion or a faith? It has a lot to do with abuse, guilt, and trance-inducing societies. One cannot compare one specific faith to another faith or talk about Religion as a single entity.
But we can talk about evil. And evil is what we see before our very eyes now, and it is not only ranged against us–it has infiltrated our very midst.
Norman
The religion of peace is only following Mohamed. Lucifer, I mean allah the moon god, would be proud.
ROPMA!
this is terrible- psychological manipulation in order to commit evil. To me it really sounds like these people are Lucifer in the flesh. Someone mentioned above that these people had mental disabilities, which is believable. Nevertheless, I still don’t understand how one’s religious beliefs could enable them to do such a thing.
#6 DQ, I think close intermarriage and resultant lessening of IQ has a much wider effect. The lower IQ problem carries over into daily life and work. Take a look at this article in Wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the_Wealth_of_Nations
It seems that Muslim countries don’t rank very high.
I’ve had discussions with a friend of mine about the war on terror and the conflict with radical Islam. My friend insists that there’s no significant difference between Islam and radical Islam. He also insists that Islam is dangerous, and needs to be exterminated, as ruthlessly as possible. This guy isn’t Christian in any meaningful way, and frankly is one of the smartest people I know. I’m not religious either, and I started out our discussions, a couple of years ago, rather tolerant of everyone and every religion as long as children or women aren’t abused, etc. Modern, westernized Islam, in my view, isn’t that different from other religions (Christianity, Judaism, etc.). The difficulty for me is this: when such a story comes out, the westernized Muslim community is silent on the subject. I expect the typical useful idiots of the left to mostly be silent, but the Muslims should be shouting from the rooftops that they have nothing to do with such behavior. You get the feeling that instead they deplore such behavior, quietly, but also wouldn’t object if it led to the world being conquered by Islam. I’m beginning to wonder if my friend is right.
#20
I’m glad you recognize that we can’t “play nice with evil.” However, once a child has been turned into a suicide bomber, that child has to be put down like the rapid dog he has become, there is no other way. In order to stop Islam we must destroy their child-soldiers, there is no choice. I’m not suggesting we rape children, but once the Muslims have put a gun or strap a bomb onto a child that child must be destroyed.
I am afraid that “raping” has always been a tool to subjugate a population in war times, I am sorry for my own sake, they were perpetrated during Algeria war by our soldiers, they also were largely perpetrated during the last Balkans wars by all the parties.
Wether it leaded to submission or to revolt.
Here it looks like “submission” was the agenda
ancient dark worlds. iconic worship. blood. that is our history. israelis and americans with the exception of our new president, and freedom loving people everywhere like geert wilders in the netherlands, merkel in germany, will fight to their last breath to protect and defend modernity. all else is grotesquerie and failure.
merkel in germany ??????
yeah, while making businesses in her brandebourgeoise back yards with Putin and Iran, don’t forget China !!!!
Of course, the liberal reading of this is not “what awful people these are”, but rather “what an awful situation, that people are forced to do these awful things”. Because, you know, nobody ever WANTS to have sex with young girls. It’s just one of those things you have to do when you’re fighting an illegal invasion, right?
One question: who is training the rapists?
Where in the Koran does it teach that this kind of crime is acceptable? The truth is that Bin Laden and all of his followers will not end this war until all Jews are dead and the entire world has converted to the Muslim religion. And the crimes they have been committing in the name of their religion is nothing compared to what they will do to you and I if they win the war on terror.
Mohamed was radical: Therefore, all of Islam is radical. The reason why so called moderates do not say much, is they can go to hell, shuned, or murdered for speaking against there fellow Muslims.
All religions are not the same. Most are the same. Christians believe the only way into heaven is if G-d sees you through the perfect blood of Christ. Refuse to accept the free gift of love from G-d, and you stand alone.
In the West (and Israel), weapons are used to protect people. Arab Muslims, on the other hand, use people to protect weapons, and also as weapons.
Since when does the victim need to overcome his/her ‘shame’? Allah be damned!
Sometimes the problem is smart people think they are so smart they can’t screw up or make bad decisions. Dumb.
But back to the evil Ms. Chesler describes — this needs to become public knowledge. Where is the NY Times and WaPo? Don’t want to offend Muslim sensibilities?
Perhaps some of the sharp WSJ investigative reporters (some of the only ones left) can pursue this. Needs to be front page.
Let moderate Muslims get their fill and stand with the brave Iraqis.
Density coin-coin,
Of course, the liberal reading of this is not “what awful people these are”, but rather “what an awful situation, that people are forced to do these awful things”. Because, you know, nobody ever WANTS to have sex with young girls. It’s just one of those things you have to do when you’re fighting an illegal invasion, right?
well, does that help you if you say that these people are awful ? it certainly doesn’t prevent them from perpetrating these awful acts.
Actually, Algeria isn’t under an illegal invasion, nor it was during the independance war, but these fanatics are making an offense as old as humanity when it comes to subjugate a population, of course, not learnt in the book of “the Art of War”
I don’t think they tactically rape people. I think they would do it anyway. The same people you can get away with raping are the same people you can more easily strap bombs on I think. It’s just sort of a happy accident.
#33,
Mohamed raped little girls, and boys. What do you mean “Where in the koran does it teach this kind of crime is acceptable?” They are just following Mohamed.
This is not extreme Islam, this is Islam at it’s core.
ROPMA!
You won’t hear much protestation coming from the Left about this because the jihadis are their allies of convenience. Does not matter who the warriors of Allah rape, as long as the warriors of Allah wage war against the hated kafir.
Marxism + Islam = The Borg that has Western Civilization in its crosshairs
39. happyfeet:I don’t think they tactically rape people. I think they would do it anyway. The same people you can get away with raping are the same people you can more easily strap bombs on I think. It’s just sort of a happy accident.
Either way they’re doing both on purpose. I’ve read earlier that some suicide bombers got to spend a night or two in a harem before they went to murder-suicide. (The Israelis found this out from failed suicide bombers)
So recruit thugs from jail. Let them rape and blow themselves up. Convince the raped to blow themselves up. Repeat.
Sick as hell.
DavidN,
Part of the difficulty is that the westernized Muslims are generally just ones who are observant in token fashion at best.
There are just apparently not that many devout-yet-moderate Muslims.
Marc (#15) – well said. Totalitarians throughout the ages have always understood that the young are uniquely suited to their purposes, to being persuaded that radical and often violent causes are just. The Hiter Jugend (Hitler Youth)are perhaps the most famous modern historical example; the Palestinian suicide bomber ‘martyr’ movement is a newer manifestation of the same impulse.
The use of child soldiers is quite common in some African and Asian guerilla armies for precisely these reasons; the young can be easily indoctrinated, compassion can be beaten out of them, and they follow orders more unquestioningly than older fighters.
DavidN (#26): I have the same concerns as you do. One hears constantly in our media and from politicians that “Islam is a peaceful religion,” or that we are fighting “radical Islam” or something along these lines. Some authorities (Dinesh D’Souza for example) argue that the west cannot hope to triumph in the struggle against jihad if it does not have moderate Muslims as allies. That’s all well and good, but where are these moderates of which we are told? Where are the demonstrations in the streets, the counter-protests against terrorist bombs and attacks such as the recent one in Mumbay? Several possibilities exist. There are many moderate Muslims, but they are intimidated into silence by their violent coreligionists. Or perhaps the estimates are incorrect, that the number of moderates is far lower than we think. Or perhaps there are many, many moderates, but they aren’t the type to get involved politically. Or perhaps there are too many varieties of Muslim to be effectively categorized. Who knows which is correct? I do not…
The mathematics of it are not encouraging. There are an estimated billion Muslims in the world; if even a small fraction of them are actively hostile – that could pose a problem.
In my view, there would be little problem if Islam was only a religion, in the sense that Christianity and Judaism are, but it much more than that. It is also a complete political, cultural and intellectual system that governs every aspect of a believer’s life.
Political Islam cannot be separated from Islam; they are one and the same. The best hope for stemming the tide of hate and violence issuing forth from the 7th century barbarians who would destroy us, is something analagous to the Protestant Reformation, except in Islam.
Demographically, Muslim populations around the globe are reproducing very rapidly, much more rapidly than most other racial-ethnic-relgious groups. As Mark Steyn famously said, “The future belongs to those who show up,” and Muslims are showing up. They are transforming societies across the world, but the reverse is also true; they are being transformed by the societies in which they live. If enough Muslims enjoy the benefits of modernity and throw off the violent, totalitarian shackles of their faith, then peaceful coexistence is possible. And armed conflict is just as likely between Muslims of different sects as it is between the Umma and the non-believers. In any case, the Muslim world is doing quite well attaining its goals via the birth rate, the purse, and steady, slow political-cultural action; the west (see Great Britain) is surrendering without a fight, so why use overt warfare now? That comes later, when they are strong enough to move out into the open.
27. Alex:
“I’m glad you recognize that we can’t “play nice with evil.” However, once a child has been turned into a suicide bomber, that child has to be put down like the rapid dog he has become, there is no other way.”
~
As much as it rips my heart into a kazillion bits, I can’t argue with that. It’s the truth.
~BUT~
If I was strapped with bombs to my person as an innocent victim and roped to a chair with tears streaming down my face and piss down my legs in utter fear and crying and begging for my life in gutteral cries..my perspective would change BIG TIME though.
-Just something to think about from the comfort of my [still mine barely] home.
“an Algerian militant, Abu Baçir El Assimi” translates into English as: Sorry about the a$$rape, Abu.
15. Marc Malone: “This is why youth are so often sucked into radical causes…”
It seems to me that “sucked” rhymes with what is actually happening. (replace the s with an f)
28. Marie Claude: “Here it looks like “submission” was the agenda”
Mme. I’m not sure if you know it, but Islam literally means submission. Not, however, I suspect, in this manner.
I apologize for the dark humor.
Anybody seen or read the Kite Runner?
Nevermind the feminists and gay community, where are the Muslims who would condemn this reprehensible behaviour done in the name of Mohammed. They’ll scream and yell about the patriot act yet nothing is heard about this. I guess the freedom to covertly organize an attack takes precident over the lives and dignity of their own people. Does this continual obsession with MARTYRDOM leave any doubt that Islam is a religion of death? I wonder.
The so called “moderate’ Muslims are just not that into it. The TRUE Muslims are the barbarians that we read about. The Koran justifies everything that they do. The peaceful verses might as well not be in the book because wherever verses contradict one another the verse that was “revealed” (what a joke) later abrogates the earlier verse. The nice,peaceful stuff was canceled out after Mohammed became powerful. It’s incredible that smart Muslims can not see through this ‘religion”. It’s so obviously phony,made up on the fly by Mohammed that only a fool could believe this. Then again, I’m always surprised when any intelligent adult believes in the God superstition.
27. Alex said:
“I’m glad you recognize that we can’t “play nice with evil.” However, once a child has been turned into a suicide bomber, that child has to be put down like the rapid dog he has become, there is no other way. In order to stop Islam we must destroy their child-soldiers, there is no choice. I’m not suggesting we rape children, but once the Muslims have put a gun or strap a bomb onto a child that child must be destroyed.”
Remember, though, that you’re asking our soldiers to do this — that would be my son, my brother, and my husband. All three would do everything possible to avoid harming that child, and I suspect so would all their shipmates and buddies. The Islamists know this and use it against us, otherwise they would have been ground into the mud long ago. It’s easy to talk about destroying a child, but can you really imagine doing it — even if that kid is coming at you with a bomb?
There are all kinds of evil over in the Middle East, and our young men and women are coming back with more than a passing acquaintance with things they would never have dreamed of.
Now, if only we could figure out a way to use the outrage of middle-class people upon learning that groups that will fly airliners into buildings might use rape to some advantage in this war against the barbarians.
We can all endlessly while away the time with larger files of stories demonstrating that jihadists are very different than the PTA-attending, 401k-contributing, yearly health exam-getting people that read these stories, but whom are we kidding?
The leftists that missed the message AQ sent on 9/11, the liberals that would rather crucify Pope Benedict than dis-invite Ahmenadijad, the excuse-making Democrats that don’t see the harm in Muslims calling for genocide against Jews, Christians, Americans, etc while suggesting the mention of “axis of evil” is a war crime aren’t going to be convinced even if you knock a couple of buildings down on live TV before their very eyes. When we are nuked by Iran, it will be our fault. When your children are murdered at school it will be GW’s fault. When your loacl mosque is used to stage terrorist events, it will be society’s fault. Nothing will convince those that haven’t already been convinced.
Stop wasting your time with the precise details of just how evil Islam and Muslims fell comfortable enough in being. Treat anyone that REFUSES to see this threat as no better than the enemy sworn to do anything to flay your carcass or stomp on your semi-removed eyeballs. There is no value is congratulating ourselves on how civilized we remain while the barbarians observe zero limits in pursuit of victory. Every restraint we observe gives room for the barbarians to operate with more freedom of action. Once the enemy is utterly vanquished and incapable of resisting should we let up.
If you haven’t gotten the message the jihadists have been sending for many years by now you haven’t been paying attention and should be placed under adult supervision. The US State Dept and the legion of academics that refuse to face this threat are not stubborn or restrained they are aiding and abetting the jihadists in our murder.
What do you expect from the religion of piece?
Does it really matter how a culture recruits suicide bombers?
Time to rev up the ol’ terrorist excuse-all generator:
“If you were living under occupation and had no other means at your disposal to fight back, you’d rape men too!”
“They’re facing guided missiles and helicopter gunships, raping men is all they have!”
“Raping men is the poor man’s A-bomb!”
“One man’s man-raper is another man’s freedom fighter!”
Come on, help me out here…
Israel did exactly what I would have done in this last act to defend itself; blow up their central command compounds. Annihilate the source. These Muslim lucifer incarnates will stop at nothing; rape, brain washing and setting up shop in a hospital is the least of what they’re capable of.
What amazes me, is that my Muslim friend of Kurdish descent, whose family was exterminated by Saddam Hussein’s chemical warfare always manages to point out no matter the discussion, that if I’m not Muslim, I’m not on the right path and I need to convert. I keep beating my head against the wall by pointing out acts of savagery described in this article and Mohammad’s background, his acts of savagery and deception. All condoned and encouraged by Mohammad’s Koran. My friend continues to argue that it is all propaganda meant to desecrate the Koran and Mohammad’s status as a holy and divine being.
You know what I do keep hearing, if he were to speak out against the Koran or Mohammad, he would be eternally damned. Smart, but his ability to reason has been warped and shuttered by the threat of eternal damnation should he speak out against Mohammad whom he believes to be Allah’s personal spokesperson.
#50 Kywrite:
“It’s easy to talk about destroying a child, but can you really imagine doing it — even if that kid is coming at you with a bomb?”
It’s easier if you think of it as an “explosively defective fetus in need of a retroactive abortion”…it then becomes a matter of “choice”.
Actually, if I think of my own child, or those of my neighbors,(who usually infest the trampoline in my backyard), versus that Muslim youth with the bleeding anus and the explosive vest…well, hand me the radio…we’re fixin’ to have us a naplam strike.
A big one.
And if I catch the wind just right, I think I can put enough “english” on it to take out his “butt-buddies” back in whatever shit-hole he came from.
27. Alex: & 50. kywrite:
If a child soldier is shooting at you, or just a kid with a bomb strapped to them is running at you there isn’t much choice. The soldier has to kill to survive.
But if you can be pulled out the immediate situation they can be rehabilitated. Its been done with child soldiers in Africa.
Do the rape victims/suicide bombers know that it was their side that raped them and caused the lost honor? It says a whole lot about Islam *if* they knew.
Mary Jackson is absolutely right that we owe a great debt to feminists like Chesler for their hard-fought, long-fought efforts to convince others to condemn rape, let alone prosecute it. The fight is ongoing, and feminists are the ones who should be thanked for it. Feminism is not the problem — it is the solution — and it is a shame that mere mention of rape inspires so many to reflexively condemn feminists instead of condemning rape.
This generation of elite American feminist leaders in the organizations and the universities, however, do silence themselves on the subject of rape when it is perpetrated by members of American Leftists’ pet causes — Palestinians, Islamists, “minority” men everywhere (even places where they are not minorities), serial killers on death row, et cetera.
This silencing was first inflicted by the sexist leadership of the Left (many of whom have catapulted rightward) and has now been entirely internalized by young women who are taught, from a very early age, in American schools and universities, that women’s dignity must be always and everywhere be secondary to the dictates of selective multicultural “sensitivities.”
Feminist leaders of the elite organizations are sickeningly cynical in their abandonment of certain rape victims, but it is this younger generations of women who worry me most — I fear for them. The price of membership for them in far too many places in society is self-loathing. And it shows in their actions and their words.
The Right — supports of Israel included — hasn’t been consistently swell on sexual violence either, rarely taking a stand in courtrooms, legislatures, or in the media. In America, far too many on the Right feel comfortable merely criticizing others for what they do not do themselves, or practicing their own brand of selective outrage. Rape is rape itself, as feminists of Chesler’s generation taught us at great personal cost. Why is that lesson so easy to eternally unlearn?
I’ve long wondered where all the outrage is against all kinds of methods used to recruit children/young men & women into the causes of radical jihad.
The young boys, without much education, steeped in the glories of Paradise that await them once they’ve blown themselves to smithereens, the 3 year olds in Gaza being primed with “hate Jews” cartoons, the young boys forced into militarization in the ranks of Hezbollah…
The methods of intimidation are wide & varied. Remember the stories of recruitment of the Taliban, a live dog was burned in front of a potential recruit to inspire him with the fear of Allah (and the not so hidden suggestion that this might be his fate if he didn’t join up).
The tactics are an abomination. The individuals are victims of recruiters in the worst sense of the word.
In polygamy, you wind up with extra men. Without conquest of new territory, the society must turn upon itself to avoid roving gangs of unmarried men. Inbreeding is a major problem in the Arab world, with both polygamy and cousin marriage synergistic multipliers. You can see an extensive list of scientific articles on that subject here: http://www.consang.net/index.php/Global_prevalence_references
Funny how it is OK to have sex with young boys but not male animals!
Wow. That’s pretty gay for a religion that kills gays.
Doublethink strikes again…
Thank you, as always, for your work. It deserves a wide audience.
It is doublethink. This is why we should grease our bullets with lard, so the enemy will fear us.
Are you saying Americans “owe no apology” because Americans sacrificed – “shed blood for” – “the civilian Muslims of Kosovo”, etc.?
If so, then by your morality, only after we have sacrificed, can we stand proud as having been morally good.
But this is the identical moral premise held by the Islamists you’re trying to condemn. They are maintaining that only after the rape victim has sacrificed, can he/she be redeemed, and that redemption in a next life counts. And, of course, by their moral code, raping the victim in the first place is moral because God says it’s a necessary sacrifice for jihad according to his priests and holy scriptures here on earth.
You are being true to the moral code of all three western religions – Islam, Judaism, and Christianity – each of which shares the identical root moral premise: sacrifice. Islam is simply the most consistent, hence too “extreme” for you – so far.
There are only two alternatives:
a) continue accepting the morality of sacrifice for others as your moral ideal and watch helplessly as the most consistent practice of that morality – Islam – destroys the entire world, or
b) uproot the error and discover a new, healthy moral code – rooted not in arbitrary edict (God, society, Fuhrer, etc.), but rather in man’s objective nature as the animal who must think and act to sustain his life here, on earth.
Such a new moral code has been fully identified only in the last fifty years. It is based on the work of Aristotle. It is contained in Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged and Virtue of Selfishness. It shows man that he is worthy of living and achieving happiness for his own sake. It rejects sacrifice as such – to or from others.
As Aristotle taught, it’s “either or” – life and happiness – or suffering and death. But right now, Islam is winning because too many like you are conceding its anti-life moral premise.
Um Pat I will take for granted that your ignorance of christianity is running way ahead of you. Christ (as in Jesus Christ) died in an ultimate sacrifice for us, He having done no wrong died for us, so that we don’t have to die. Does that help you out with the difference between IIsalm and Christianity? Oh and by the way Jesus is Jewish, not Christian, which might help clear some of the sacrifice part of the Jewish religion, but I will leave that up to someone who is more qualified in Judaism (spelling?) to explain. You are making the classic disgruntled or mis-informed nonbeliever all religions are the same error.
Horrible the whole manipulaiotn that some people just seem to need to have over other people…yuck. Thank you Ms Chesler for daring to discuss this.
I wonder what Hussein Obama thinks of this terrorist recruitment tactic. He and veep, Joe B., are running around trying hard to make friends with Iran and trying to halt trials of unrepentant Gitmo prisoners (who would rape them and all Americans in a heartbeat). Will the irresponsible socialists ever learn anything?
Phyllis, You’ve got guts in dealing with some of the toughest issues. When I heard about these rapes I wasn’t surprised, but thank God I am still shocked by such atrocities. Most people are too scared to face these realities in our world. I admittedly have a well proven and fail-proof avenue for escape, even though it is temperary, I don’t pretend that it is other than it is. But I do try to live my life according to my own standards, and probably much too often excuse myself for my sins of ommission. But I simply refuse to beat my head against a brick wall ever again. I can’t understand how some humans can do the things they do. I couldn’t protect my own child from “parental alienation” by her own father and his family. Oh, I didn’t take it lightly by any means. Too many were saying there was nothing I could do, but I haven’t stop looking. When it gets too painful now, I end the pain. What a way to live! But at least it enables me to live on, so I can continue to search, expression my feelings, choose to behave within the set of rules to which I have reconciled, not only for myself, but others. but I don’t take anything laying down anymore. People know when I’m fed up, and should be grateful that I’m not a pistol-packin mama! My worst enemies are fortunate it was me they dealt with. I know this to be true, yet they’re not even vaguely aware. Writing has become an outlet for me, and if I ever sound bitter, so be it. But I’m more than that, and I continue to value all life, for only herein resides hope. I know that you’ve been tempted many times to give up. Just know that there are those of us who can relate.
One mentioned earlier that Muslims who do not believe in the radical & violent, are intimidated by those who are so violent. I think this is more true than we care to admit. Even here in America.
However, I also think, so long as the violent ones continue to mount up what some think are victories, albeit political & incremental, they will remain silent. They may do so out of fear that if the violent guys win, they will have to pay the price. they may also do so because they are convinced Islam is the only religion & so long as the violent guys are wining why not just keep your mouth shut & hope they win.
The whole thought process is so convoluted to those of us who do not subscribe to such radical thought, that we reject this since it seems so irrational. Yet the question may be, are we being foolishly rational while fighting against an enemy who actually is totally irrational so they can win?
I happen to think many Muslims are remaining silent & just bidding their time. If the violent win, they figure they do. If the violent lose, they keep their religion, & the other guys get prison or death. They think its a win-win situation for them, & they are hedging their bets.
Rape is about power over others whether it is male-female or male-male. In our society, the victim is to be treated with respect, dignity, & compassion. In their society, you have failed if you permitted yourself to be raped, even if it was done by superior numbers you could never have fought off.
Unless & until Muslims realize their system is obscenely convoluted according to the rest of the world, they will march on hoping they can overcome all & make all bow down in submission.
I bet it will take Muslims decades or even centuries to finally realize what their religion has to offer is suffering, hate, humiliation, & eventual defeat. In the meantime many seeking to make peace will cost others their lives, until many others among us wake up & actually fight back for our own very survival. Some are already fighting, while others are attacking them & trying to appease in hopes they will be treated nicely by their subjugators.
I have no respect for Islam, it is a violent religion and every time there is violence, terrorism, or suicide bombings, there is islam. Long before Bush was President, there was terrorism, and what scares me is that what has happened in the UK, especially London where muslims rule and the Britísh people are too scared to speak out, this will happen in the USA. Muslims hate the west, but use the west for their own purpose, they have no respect for Christianity, but demand that we change to accomodate them. If I go to Iran, I cannot ask or demand anyone to change to accomodate my beliefs. I cannot even carry a Bible in public in Saudi Arabia. Why are we giving billions of dollars to Egypt and Lebanon? why do we support the saudis? we need to find other sources of oil, so we can leave the arab world. I do NOT hate muslims, but I hate their religion..it accomodates pedophilia, a girl is of age when she is 10.. this is Sharia law. Imagine girls beaten or raped or ´killed just for going to school,. yes, this is Afghanistan. Hamas terrorists use their own people as human shields. Yet the whiners in the USA and the liberal press lambast Bush because of Guantanamo where only there prisoners were waterboarded.. well..I would like to see the leftwingers and the liberals in the media speaking out about the abuses and human rights abuse by Islam, instead of blaming the US for everytime the Arab world shout. Imagine, the UN is so afraid of Islam, they would speak out against Israel, but never against Hamas. Human rights groups never speak out agaínst what is happening in Sudan. I am personally sick of it and I hope that this president will open his eyes, because Islam is the perpetrator of hate, death, abuse and violence. Death to America.. is the all too familiar chant.. imagine what would happen if after Sunday worship, people chanted death to islam.. wow, what a reaction there would be. If Muslims dont like the west, they should leave, just leave, if their way of life is better, then go back to your countries and bomb each other and leave the West alone and to be fair, I think we should leave the Arab world, it is only problems.
The true libertarian Ayn Rand and the respected Philosopher Aristotle were wrong in their assessment on morality. They based universal truth on the subjective nature of culture. There is no absolute truth based on an Eternal Law giver, but only truth that is relative to the time. If truth is really based on liberal relativity, then what right to do we have to say to another culture that they are wrong for how they treat their enemies. Just because we say and feel it is wrong in our culture does not mean that it is wrong in another culture, even one like the Radical Muslims. I guess the most we could discover through the scientific method was that one culture could be deemed stronger than the other based on the values it chose for itself. But if truth is conservative meaning objective, transcendent (meaning from God), and unchanging. Then behavior that is contrary to our beliefs in right or wrong should trigger a feeling of wanting justice to be done to those who violated the law we naturally deem to be OBJECTIVE, TRUE, AND ABSOLUTE
Rational Joe at #72 writes, “There is no absolute truth based on an Eternal Law giver, but only truth that is relative to the time.”
If truth is relative, then so is your statement that truth is relative. In other words, your statement that “truth is relative” is relative, too. Hence, your position leads only to skepticism and the complete renunciation of true knowledge. Everything else you just wrote, by your own definition, would be relative. Your position leads to a total dead end where there is neither truth nor reliable knowledge – in fact, there is nothing.
And at that dead end, to be consistent, you’d have to “live” like David Hume did: simply stop writing, stay in your room, have your food brought in, and do nothing because there are no absolutes – everything is relative, in your view.
Here’s an absolute for you: you’re truly reading this on an internet browser.
And here is another absolute: individual rights like free speech are morally good.
To 6. DQ: On Islamic inbreeding -
You say causes all kinds of problems in Moslems including “lower I.Q. contributing to flawed thinking– i.e. not thinking for yourself, not analyzing orthodoxy, not being capable of analyzing anything” -
than how is it Islam has not only made inroads into the splendidly sophisticated and technologically advanced countries of Europe among them England, Holland and France, as well as Finland, Denmark and Sweden – but seems pretty much to be running the roost and getting their ways including the infiltration of shari’a, while America, a democracy of intelligent people ensconced a Moslem fathered American President whose place of birth may very well be Kenya, Africa?
The very country targeted – aside from Israel and the rest of the world – of Islamic State sponsored terrorism – America!
Who would you be calling stupid?
Excellent site hosting revelation after revelation on what makes, er, Islam tick!
http://www.islamreview.com/articles/Islam_is_not_a_religion.shtml – Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.