David and Bathsheba
Ever since the September 11 attack on our consulate and CIA station in Benghazi, “the dog in the night-time” of the scandal the media did its best to bury during the election campaign has been David Petraeus, the Iraq War commander turned spook-in-almost-chief. Throughout the orgy of misinformation, disinformation, finger-pointing, blame-shifting and general confusion, Petraeus remained adamantly silent, a hostage to fortune somewhere within the bowels of the CIA building in Langley. The one man who could have cut through the administration’s fog machine said nothing substantive as ambassador Chris Stevens and three others were laid to rest.
And now, just a couple of days after the election that returned Barack Hussein Obama II to executive power in Washington, he’s gone — resigned in the wake of an affair that likely occurred more than a year ago, apparently with his biographer, Paula Broadwell — who herself is under FBI investigation, reportedly for trying to access the general’s classified emails. Further, Petraeus will now not testify before the Senate Intelligence Committee about Benghazi next week.
And that, if Congress acquiesces and does not immediately subpoena Petraeus and either compel him to testify or force the administration to again assert executive privilege (as it did with Attorney General Eric Holder in the Fast and Furious mess), will be that — we’ll never know, and Obama will do his best to completely bury, what happened in Benghazi.
More details no doubt will dribble out over the coming days and weeks, but here’s what we can reasonably surmise. Although the official story is that the affair was uncovered by the FBI’s investigation into the emails, nevertheless it appears from the wording of Petraeus’s resignation letter that the affair began some time after July 2011; he became CIA director fourteen months ago. Therefore — unless he concealed that information from his vetters, which is highly unlikely given everything we know about the man — the Obama administration had to have known about the relationship from the start. Which means that, in effect, Petraeus confessed to his own “honey trap” and handed Valerie Jarrett, the Javert of Obama’s White House, a termination card, effective whenever she and the president cared to play it. And play it they did, right after the election and just before his testimony on the Hill. Well played, indeed.
On the other hand, if the affair began before Petraeus was being considered for the CIA post, and he didn’t reveal it, his reputation will never recover. As Ronald Kessler notes:
The investigation began last spring, but the FBI then pored over his emails when he was stationed in Afghanistan.
The woman who was having an affair with Petraeus is a journalist who had been writing about him.
Given his top secret clearance and the fact that Petraeus is married, the FBI continued to investigate and intercept Petraeus’ email exchanges with the woman. The emails include sexually explicit references to such items as sex under a desk.
Such a relationship is a breach of top secret security requirements and could have compromised Petraeus.
At some point after Petraeus was sworn in as CIA director on Sept. 6, 2011, the woman broke up with him. However, Petraeus continued to pursue her, sending her thousands of emails over the last several months, raising even more questions about his judgment.
So, one way or the other, we can begin to understand the silence emanating from the Langley Home for Lost Boys over the past several months. Right from the start, the Agency was fingered by the White House and by Hillary Clinton’s State Department as the fall guy for the Benghazi fiasco, especially once they understood that their “hateful video” legend wasn’t going to fly, and once leakers within the Agency began slipping the embarrassing details of what happened that night to their favorite journalist mouthpieces.
With the congressional hearings looming, it was clear that the administration could no longer tolerate a CIA that it could not fully control, and that therefore an example had to be made of a good, patriotic American war hero, who had succumbed to the most basic of human weaknesses. It doesn’t take a thriller novelist’s imagination to picture the scene: Petraeus calling to the White House and being told, probably by Jarrett, to tender his resignation forthwith and both to reveal the affair and cite it as the reason for his sudden disgrace. No fingerprints on the bloody knife except those of the victim, with the added bonus of ensuring his silence regarding Benghazi, especially with the Senate under even firmer control that it was last week, when the GOP was still indulging in its pipe dream of retaking it.
Well, as they say, elections have consequences, and this one’s a doozy. Petraeus has a lot of detractors on the Right, many of whom saw him as overly Muslim-friendly during his time in Iraq and Afghanistan. (For examples, just check the comments on this piece.) But, until he threw himself under the bus, no one doubted the man’s sense of duty, honor and country; indeed, it’s just that sense that likely caused him to resign in the first place; Max Boot has a nice appreciation of the general’s accomplishments here:
Imagine Winfield Scott, U.S. Grant, William Sherman, George Patton, Dwight Eisenhower or Matthew Ridgway resigning over an affair. It’s simply impossible to imagine; standards have changed so much over the years that now sexual peccadilloes are about the only thing that can bring down senior military commanders. Petraeus did not have as big a war to fight as his predecessors did but what he achieved in Iraq was one of the most impressive turnarounds ever seen in any counterinsurgency campaign that I am familiar with.
Field Marshal Gerald Templer’s success in Malaya in the 1950s is usually cited as the gold standard of counterinsurgency. Well Iraq in early 2007, when Petraeus took over as commander, was in far worse shape than Malaya in 1952 when Templer arrived on the scene. Few thought there was any chance of stopping Iraq’s slide into ever-more violent civil war. Certainly not with a mere 20,000 or so surge troops–numbers widely dismissed as inadequate for the size of the task. Petraeus did not bluster and he did not boast but he arrived with a quiet confidence that he could still save the day–and he did.
The problem is, fighting generals (as opposed to the desk jockeys that grunts call REMFs) are not generally wise in the ways of politics — Ike was an exception; Patton was not) — and can find themselves played if they’re not suspicious of civilian authority, instead of (as they must be as officers) deferential to it. And Obama’s nomination of Petraeus to be CIA director always struck me as addition by subtraction: he took a possible GOP opponent and effective critic off the table and buried him across the river in suburban Virginia. A real spook — say, Allen Dulles, Dick Helms, or James Jesus Angleton — always has his antennae up and operational, and understands that his real enemy is most likely masquerading as his best friend.
So the career of King David (as he was known to his aides in Iraq) is over. The Republicans, however, must not let this old soldier just fade away. He needs to be called before the Intelligence Committee and to testify about the truth of what happened in Benghazi, including the real reason that ambassador Stevens was there — which, if the rumors of a gun-running operation to Syria are true (shades of both Fast and Furious and Iran-Contra), could be highly deleterious to the administration, and which might have had an effect on the election had they been publicly known.
Petraeus should welcome the opportunity, and in fact insist on it. It would be his final act of patriotism — and should he be prevented by the administration and its Democratic allies in Congress from testifying, then his forced silence will speak almost as loudly and even more eloquently.
Also read: Feinstein Questions Obama’s Acceptance of Petraeus Resignation







Won’t resonate….will be like shovelling you know what against the tide. This has no interest to the electorate. Don’t bother.
Keep an eye on what is happening in Chicago, they are vulnerable here. The Blago and Jesse Jackson Jr saga
Why are Blagojevich’s attorney’s silent?
http://illinoispaytoplay.com/2012/11/09/why-are-blagojevichs-attorneys-silent/
IF everyone who had an affair resigned, there would be no one left in gov’t. But this revelation isn’t about an affair, it is about (hopefully) clipping his wings, before he is called to testify.
Now, the thugs-in-suits surely intend to weaken his resolve, morale and cache before the crap hits the fan. Regardless, he will testify.
Mobsters do what they do best; they intimidate, twist, and even break arms. They kill too. And this is EXACTLY what is being played out with the Thug-in-Chief and his surrogates.
No matter – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/11/09/benghazigate-gaining-steam-some-tailwinds-are-hard-to-contain-regardless-of-the-furious-spin-addendum-to-benghazigates-underpinnings-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/
Petraeus, a honey trap, and the Chicago Way
http://illinoispaytoplay.com/2012/11/10/petraeus-a-honey-trap-and-the-chicago-way/
Dr. Broadwell I presume: oh not so fast…a message…my my, are we talking blackmail…lonely hearts …or what
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/magazine/a-message-from-beyond.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0
MY WIFE’S LOVER
My wife is having an affair with a government executive. His role is to manage a project whose progress is seen worldwide as a demonstration of American leadership. (This might seem hyperbolic, but it is not an exaggeration.) I have met with him on several occasions, and he has been gracious. (I doubt if he is aware of my knowledge.) I have watched the affair intensify over the last year, and I have also benefited from his generosity. He is engaged in work that I am passionate about and is absolutely the right person for the job. I strongly feel that exposing the affair will create a major distraction that would adversely impact the success of an important effort. My issue: Should I acknowledge this affair and finally force closure? Should I suffer in silence for the next year or two for a project I feel must succeed? Should I be “true to my heart” and walk away from the entire miserable situation and put the episode behind me? NAME WITHHELD
Don’t expose the affair in any high-profile way. It would be different if this man’s project was promoting some (contextually hypocritical) family-values platform, but that doesn’t appear to be the case. The only motive for exposing the relationship would be to humiliate him and your wife, and that’s never a good reason for doing anything. This is between you and your spouse. You should tell her you want to separate, just as you would if she were sleeping with the mailman. The idea of “suffering in silence” for the good of the project is illogical. How would the quiet divorce of this man’s mistress hurt an international leadership initiative? He’d probably be relieved.
The fact that you’re willing to accept your wife’s infidelity for some greater political good is beyond honorable. In fact, it’s so over-the-top honorable that I’m not sure I believe your motives are real. Part of me wonders why you’re even posing this question, particularly in a column that is printed in The New York Times.
Your dilemma is intriguing, but I don’t see how it’s ambiguous. Your wife is having an affair with a person you happen to respect. Why would that last detail change the way you respond to her cheating? Do you admire this man so much that you haven’t asked your wife why she keeps having sex with him? I halfway suspect you’re writing this letter because you want specific people to read this column and deduce who is involved and what’s really going on behind closed doors (without actually addressing the conflict in person). That’s not ethical, either.
Wife cheating w/ man you respect = Pack it up and go home dude, you lost her– divorce is just making it official.
Word is…this letter was a message to Petraeus….the affair was over…this is letting him know to cooperate
Peaches in still Da Man for banging his hot-as-sin biographer, shutting out a guy with which she already had two kids, if you really wanna go there.
I find it hilarious that some people write to the New York Times for advice on ethics.
The aggrieved husband DID NOT write the letter…The affair had been over for a year and a half….it was PsyOps…written by WH, probably Brennan on July 13 2012…to keep Petraeus in line…On Aug 8 a few short weeks later…Obama sneered at a fundraiser ” And Romney thinks Petraues will be his VP”….Well I guess Obama believed with his threat…He had taken care of That too.
Or there could be more of the same coming down – not Petraeus but somebody else in similar circumstances.
I would suggest that people who are involved with management of an espionage operation had best learn to keep their trousers zipped and/or their panties on. If they can’t put the interests of their agency and their country ahead of their hormones, they don’t belong in the job.
Oh, and by the way, a man who would cheat on his wife, would cheat on his mistress. Just sayin’.
I agree. More than half of voters/non voters could not care less about the regime’s dirty agenda. They will ignore and do not care if they are told LIES. ( tells one something about how amoral most are) Lying does it for me. The louder and longer the leftists shout and blame is just part of doing business most think. Most ‘gimme’s’ and takers don’t care. They jut want, want, want something, anything, for free! Sorry people if you ask me. They will NOT get anything from me. Bunch of entitlement whores.
That is exactly right. I pointed out to a co-worker that the Obama administration had lied about Benghazi for two weeks.
His response?
“So they lied. So what?”
A good libertarian answer!
Liberty can neither be built nor maintained on a foundation of amorality.
Doesn’t the House have an Intelligence Committee?
House Intelligence? Been sleeping for a few years Rick?
“House Intelligence Committee” is a contradiction in terms, the acronym H.I.C. kind of says it all.
You want to talk about a “contradiction in terms”? Your moniker takes the cake.
In Obama’s realm, in which we have all been sucked up into like the proverbial vortex, such a moniker is no contradiction in terms but its very label. Such truly will be O’s legacy.
As in “freedom is slavery” and “ignorance is strength”? I get it, but still think the occupy morons need to be challenged.
The semantic “unification of opposites” is a form of ideological control in that people lose the ability to differentiate among contradictory ideas and objects.
Freedom is not slavery and ignorance is not strength, and “anarchy” cannot be reconciled with “rules.” The Greek word “anarchos” means “without rules.”
You are right, however, that this conflation has occurred in practice since the “anarchists” see no contradiction in their advocacy of the government paying for their student loans. Of course, Pelosi and Obama are their biggest fans because the street-level thuggery of the anarchists is directed against the enemies of Obama’s statism. Obama’s statist “tent” is so large that it accommodates anarchists; freedom is reduced to government dependency.
Today, anarchists are among the biggest dupes for the Obama administration, communism, and Islamo-fascism. Unlike Benjamin Tucker, Lysander Spooner, and Albert Jay Nock, they are no longer advocates for individual liberty.
There is going to be a flood of things like this in the coming weeks. Things that our disgraceful media hacks either covered up or wouldn’t investigate in the first place…at least not until after the election.
And Jimmy is right…no one but us will care.
“…and should he be prevented by the administration and its Democratic allies in Congress from testifying, then his forced silence will speak almost as loudly and even more eloquently.”
I disagree. If Petraeus is prevented from testifying, then his forced silence will be exactly that — silence. The average American won’t even know he was called to testify.
That’s why the gut-less, ball-less and spineless Republicans in Congress need to finally find their guts, balls and spines, and force Petraeus to testify. Their repeated emasculation by Democrats is sickening.
A EFFING MEN TO THAT! If he is “prevented” (whatever that means) from testifying he should write it up and send it to Drudge. It’s time to drain the DC cesspool. The place stinks.
I hope the Gen. has plenty of body guards and has someone taste-test his meals.
You’re not paranoid enough, Walsh. Unbelievable that after this election you still think Team O plays by Marquess of Queensbury rules.
He met the woman in Afghanistan, while active duty, and no doubt it started there. Keep in mind Obama had words with Petraeus over Afghanistan in 2008, and Petraeus could easily have become a challenger in 2012. We all kind of wondered about that, and when Petraeus resigned and moved to Langley, we all wondered why that made any kind of sense. Why would be cut short an absolutely brilliant military career that could easily have led to JCS or the Cabinet for that wretched pesthole, where careers go to die? What possible inducement could the Obama Administration hold out?
Now we know. There is nothing at which the Chicago team is better than digging up sexual pecadilloes of opponents. Probably they dug this up quickly, and then put the choice to the general: move to Langley or (1) get embarassed plus (2) be subject to UCMJ penalties as an active officer plus (probably worst for him) (3) deal a significant blow to morale in his command.
It’s possible they were even so corrupt as to tell him he could NOT reveal it during his security clearance investigation, because the White House would handle that. That would double their hold over him, if he fell for the lie, since then they’d have the inexcusable failure to disclose with which to trash him, his career and reputation, should that ever become necessary. One little leak to a friendly Times columnist…
I hope he wasn’t dumb or desperate enough to fall for that. But with or without, he would’ve been neutered at the CIA. (The Times, without conscious irony, speaks of his curiously low profile at the CIA, ha ha.) He probably thought the only intention was to remove him from the running in 2012, and since he doesn’t seem to have any political ambitions, that suited him OK.
Then came Benghazi, and the Chicago Team thought of a new use for Petraeus: he and the CIA could take fall for that, too. I doubt he thought that was part of the deal, but that’s always the problem when you deal with a twister — the price is never final.
But why do you think the White House would want him out and use their twist for that purpose? That’s silly. They’d know the timing was suspect, and besides, once they used that card, their power over what he said would be severely diminished.
I think it more likely that Petraeus sat tight for a while, hoping the CIA could take a mild hit and the White House would protect him personally from having to perjure himself or blow the case open in front of Congress, the same way they did with Eric Holder in F&F. But then they made clear that wasn’t going to happen, that they weren’t going to prevent him from testifying — and maybe they made it clear that testimony better be acceptable to The One. Take the Fifth, Dave. Mutter about opsec. Say you don’t remember. We don’t care.
And maybe at that point he decided to hell with this, publish and be damned, as Arthur Wellesley would say. So he outed *himself* to get out from under their thumb. Presumably the new quid pro quo is he’s allowed to go quietly into private life — no testifying in front of Congress — and in exchange he’ll…go quietly into private life, and not tell Congress anything that might cause trouble for Team O.
Given your take, now that Petraeus has outed himself and resigned, then he is free and clear, isn’t he? from Jarrett and the Chicago Boys? And now he can speak about Benghazi to the Hse of Reps, can’t he?
No he’s not. Holder probably has the perjury charge on his desk by now ready to charge him with concealing a material fact on an SF-86, which is an affidavit. Still, Petreus is a rich man, having doubtless saved up a substantial nest egg over these past 40 years, on top of a $17,000 a month pension, so he clearly has the resources to fight this, and were this not enough, his tell-all book would be. Still I wouldn’t be surprised to see them try to pin this whole thing on Petreus.
It should be noted here for correctness that filling out an SF-86 does not require you to disclose marital infidelity. However, from what I’ve heard, the CIA is a big believer in polygraphs, and I would certainly think that the head of the Agency would have to undergo a full-monty lifestyle poly, which from all reports definitely spends serious time on marital infidelity questions (the whole purpose being to elicit anything that can make somebody compromisible). If he passed a lifestyle poly with this affair being active…well, good on him, perhaps :-/
The notion that he would want to go quietly off into private life and not cause Obama any trouble is disturbing. The country comes first. That he may believe keeping a creep like Obama out of trouble is doing that is doubly disturbing. He got himself into this mess, the rest of us should not have to live with the consequences.
This is the most sensible analysis I’ve read tonight. This explains why Obama didn’t take question today, and why he’s shipping off to Asia. Asia? Really? In the face of the fiscal cliff? He wants to put time and space between the ‘reporters’ so he can work up a game plan.
The White House did not want him to resign. If the FBI found something they would have taken it to Holder, who would have taken it directly to Obama. This was their blackmail card. Petraeus offered to resign, probably last week or earlier (I think last week due to certain leaks), and the WH probably asked for him to hold off, which he did as a courtesy.
Obama will be in Asia from 11/17 through 11/20. The hearing begin on the 15th, but I assume will go for several days. His people will keep him in he loop of what’s revealed, and his political team will formulate responses.
Here’s what I expect to see if I’m correct: Expect more lurid details to come out. Explicit conversations, accusations of security breaches, military tribunals (per the UCMJ, illicit affairs are sanctionable. Now, these wont come out BEFORE his testimony, because the more that is trickled, the more ‘tabloid famous’ the General will become, and the more th average guy will pay attention – and the media will not be able to resist covering.
However, if he starts to sing, the will employ the Carville strategy an make him look dirty, corrupt an not credible. So to my understanding, the hearings are closed, which means no media. If the leaks start coming the day of/after hi testimony, expect that he dropped a bombshell. If we don’t get leaks he has clammed up.
I for one expect him to tell all. He’s honorable and men of good conscience will come clean in times of personal challenge.
Regardless, next week will be interesting.
I have a feeling that since this whole Patraeus mess looks like it’s going to go away very soon, you won’t see hide nor hair of Obama until he shows up in the rose garden to pardon the Thanksgiving turkey.
Agree. WH brings him in and says you testify consistent with our BS,, or we’ll out you. He decides screw them. A man of honor, he says go ahead, I can make my marriage weather this. He will testify to the truth, which will damn the white house and, most important, Hillary, who called him a liar in open session of the senate. 0 perhaps impeached and Hillary toast for 2016. The only downside in this scenario is Biden president. Might actually be better since Biden is actually a politician, whereas 0 is merely a campaigner and speechifier and puppet.
The question then becomes, “Who would Biden pick as his VP?” Leaving the Vice Presidency vacant while the opposing party controls the House of Representatives is a recipe for all kinds of trouble.
I am certain that you all will recall that Bill Clinton WAS impeached by the House of Representatives – not because of the blue dress, but because he perjered himself in front of a Federal Judge. Impeached by the House – found ‘Not Guilty’ by the Senate. The GOP COULD impeach the guy from Kenya – who would be only the third president in the history of this great land to have that ‘distinction’ on his resume … but does ANYONE think that THIS Senate would find ‘THE WON’ … Guilty?
Please, my friends … think again!
thecolonel
The Republicans won’t impeach.
Ken Starr effectively gutted that part of the Constitution.
I hope he does not have a car-accident
Sad to say, a complete dissemination of the entire truth of all of these matters will be met with a shrug and a “so what” by the administration, the mainstream press (if they even bother to report it at all), and most of the public. This election taught me that people just don’t care any more. To try to turn administration malfeasance into any kind of legal censure of any sort would bring an uproar from the other side that would make the reaction to the Clinton impeachment proceedings look like child’s play.
For me, investigate and chronicle it, all of it. Make history include the reality of the abuses and lawlessness of the other side. It will be the only retribution that we will get, it will need to be enough.
Reporters like Max Boot depend too much on the friendship of people in high places to provide credible opinion of highly placed people.
Petraeus has no feel for civilian politics. He didn’t belong in a highly politicized CIA subservient to a highly politicized State Department serving the most cowardly and cynical of presidents. And this dismal affair demonstrates clearly that Petraeus was never presidential material.
Petraus’s is merely the first of several careers to be ended by Obama’s dithering, lying and covering up of the grotesque cockup in Benghazi.
Petraeus ended his own career when he violated his marriage vows.
The general should have done what most great generals of an era do — retire and go fishing, but he chose another route which has proven to bite him in the butt. Now his career will be largely remembered as another officer having disgraced the U.S. Army Officer Corps. Most likely, his little fling with Ms Broadwell would have remained their secret had he not chosen an egotistical advance to his military service of greatness.
So, we now have the operation under the code name “The Biographer”. The woman is being investigated by FBI for her alleged attempts to get access to the CIA Director’s emails. I would not be surprised to hear that this attractive woman has worked for Mr. Putin’s organization – you may still call it GRU (Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.)
Congratulations!
Bingo! I smell a rat here. Absolutely too beautiful to do the work she is claiming and “fall in love” with an older, military officer is just toooo much for me to believe. This was a set up. What do we know about said hottie?
Putin or … what was this woman’s connection with Obama or any of his operatives? Honey traps have to be set and then sprung. Putin would be the exotic choice but I suspect it’s something more homegrown.
A military strategist isn’t going to ignore politics. In fact that’s how the surge worked. So the general is being thrown under the bus. He should testify anyway. Turnaround is fair play here, especially with this corrupt administration. “Thousands of emails” from the general after being rebuffed? I think not. Maybe he fell asleep on the repeat key. Bullsh@t from the wun. Emails can be faked all day and all night. BFD.
This whole episode stinks, mightily.
Turn up the fire and see what boils to the top oh ye faithful truthers.
Let me get this straight. A General, whose now head of the CIA, resigns because of an affair with his beautiful female biographer whose last name is Broadwell and she titles the book “All In”. Sounds like a James Bond movie, you can’t make this stuff up.
LoL! Very clever, I’d laugh even harder but I won’t out of respect for the Bengali Braves.
Dear Android, it’s Bengazi.
Actually, it’s Benghazi.
Sorry, couldn’t resist after your funny retort.
Well, at least we are on the same page about SOME things!
In this situation, sounds more like bawdy double entendre. Puts one in mind of the ” Pink Panther flicks.
Ham and Petraeus on toast.
Welcome to Costco, we love you.
That’s not Halal.
Not really like David and Bathsheba at all. Not unless Petraeus sent Broadwell’s husband off to war to be killed (as the biblical David did to Uriah).
The real King David paid a terrible price for his lust. Other than losing his job, Petraeus probably won’t suffer all that much. He’ll land at some think tank or get some cushy academic job, his wife will stay with him, everybody will forgive and more or less choose to forget because it’s just a private matter and he’s done so much to serve his country, blah blah blah.
Petraeus may have been a great general but that doesn’t make him any less of a creep.
I am beginning to think David Petraeus was more Bill Clinton, than Dwight Eisehower.
The reason I say that is because like Bill Clinton, it would appear to me that Petraeus was more benefactor of serendipity than outstanding accomplishment and leadership.
If anyone should be credit for “the surge” IMO, it is the ostracized and despised George Bush, who stood tough even after he had been demonized and everyone wanted out. When the Muslim turned on Muslim, and the handcuffs taken off the baddest soldiers on the planet, then and only then did the tide turn in the war. I’ll give Petraeus a measure of managing the war.
The real Bill Clinton and balanced budget story is one that Republicans should address and correct the history books. It’s time to call Bill Clinton on his deceit – especially after what I watched the last six weeks. I had forgotten what a scumbag Clinton really was.
Clinton did nothing magnanimous but continue with the adaptation of supply side economics and after dragged to the table three times, finally consented to Welfare Reform and the “end of big government” which has since been recanted. Clinton’s biggest talent is taking credit for vineyards he didn’t plant, lying of course, and having the sense to stay out of the way.
Clinton had absolutely nothing to do with a huge influx of capital gains into the federal coffers based on a false premise of the internet being the new Industrial Revolution, which collapsed shortly after Clinton’s sordid second term.
And why no Republicans or for that matter even somebody in public doesn’t call that charlatan, perjurer and serial philanderer on his baloney is beyond me.
“And why no Republicans or for that matter even somebody in public doesn’t call that charlatan, perjurer and serial philanderer on his baloney is beyond me.”
Because chicks dig him.
Nail meets hammer.
Curious that Wesley Clark, a fixture and lackey of tainted perspective on the Benghazi slaughter in favor of obama administration is now absent the forensic discussion of Patraeus resignation. What would he say and how would he say it? But… the weekend is young.
Just goes to show that the media can make a celebrity and a sex object out of anyone, if they see it in their interests to do that.
Tell enough people that somebody is sexy and a lot of them will respond with the (ahem) genital equivalent of Pavlov’s dogs.
If the FBI had access to his email “from the beginning” – how many of the “thousands of emails” sent after they broke up were really from him? If the only trail is on his email, and he resigned, if it were *all* fabricated by the FBI, how could he prove it?
And, yes, this is not David and Bathsheba. Doesn’t fit at all.
Obscenity. Blasphemy. Primal Urges. Waste Products.
The number of basic security rules this violates must challenge the sixteen trillion of the deficit.
But – I want to throw in one more item, contra a lot of suggestions here. Maybe it’s just as well if we do NOT get the Benghazi story from Petraeus, but from someone else. There is no WAY that he’s the only one who knows this stuff, and if indeed some part of the cluster is his fault, it may come out sooner from others.
One other matter, which is that just because he offered Obama his resignation, does not mean that Obama had to take it. I wonder if Petraeus was surprised when he did.
The biggest problem with the article is that Ike was not a ‘fighting general.’ He never heard a shot fired in anger and never lead men into battle (No Combat Infranty Man’s badge). Other than that small caveat, good article.
Petraeus is not David in “David and Bathsheba”. His putting the Koran, or as he calls it “The Holy Qur’an”, above our Constitution, which he took a sworn oath to, and especially above our First Amendment, blaming Israel for all the “problems ” in the Middle East and putting Muslim “sensitivities” above the lives and limbs of his own troops, makes him a no good son of a #itch. And if it is true that he sent than woman thousands of emails after she dumped him, then he is also a demented stalker.
But, but, “but, until he threw himself under the bus, NO ONE doubted the man’s sense of duty, honor and country.”
Exactly right.I have long wondered, even before this latest BS, about Petraeus’ much vaunted “patriotism”. Seems to me he “went native” years ago. After that, this affair is just one more evidence of corrupted character.But the strongest evidence of corruption is that he has not already told Congress exactly what happened.His disloyalty to the men that died is absolutely despicable.The nation needs to know exactly who is in the White House and where there inhterests truly lie. And by white House I mean all the top advisors:Brennan, Clapper, Clinton, Jarrett Panetta.EVery one of them who participated in the murder of those men and its subsequent cover up should be publicly disgraced and hung.
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“Boot’s attack on West is an effort to defend a surpassingly foolish statement in which Gen. David Petraeus cast Israel as the source of all America’s woes in the Middle East. To his great discredit, the general — in a Clintonesque fashion which, as we shall see, is probably not a coincidence — simultaneously denied making the statement, grudgingly admitted making it while minimizing its significance, and accused West and others of misrepresenting his views. In fact, the general’s critics quoted his words at length, placed them in unmistakable context, and drew from them the same commonsense conclusion drawn by Israel’s gleeful critics — for whom Petraeus is the hero of the moment.”
For a long while now, Max Boot has seemed to me to be a major slimeball too.
Yahweh, David Petraeus
Would never okay the way you do your thing
Ding ding ding, ding, ding, ding
And you’ll get yours, David Petraeus
Coddlin’ and even sidin’ with that Islam stuff like you do
Boo hoo hoo, boo hoo hoo
Where have you gone, General George S. Patton?
Our nation turns its longing eyes to you
What’s that you say, David Petraeus?
You have banished ‘ol Blood and Guts far away
Hey hey hey, hey hey hey
Coo coo ca-choo, David Petraeus
Mohammad appreciates you more than you will know
Woo woo woo, woo woo woo
Allah uses you, yes,David Petraeus
He may grant some short reprieve to those infidels who humanity betray
Hey hey hey, hey hey hey
“No fingerprints on the bloody knife except those of the victim, with the added bonus of ensuring his silence regarding Benghazi…”
Why??? His secret is already out. So why does he have to be silent now? Heck if I had been blackmailed by this crew I would be more than ready to spill the beans now.
Robert Spencer: The Convenient Resignation of General Petraeus
David Petraeus can either be hero or lout. The choice is still is. It is not my place to forgive him for cheating on his wife. He won’t be the first stupid man to throw away his blessing for a momentary thrill.
But I cannot forgive him, if he is so gutless that he knows what went down in Benghazi and chooses to remain silent to slither off to avoid personal embarrassment.
If Petraeus knows anything and doesn’t come forward and testify to the truth, he is without honor. No excuse. Four men’s blood screams from the ground.
Tex, I think you’ve got the most concise statement here. Good on ya.
The testifying should have been done when it could do maximum damage. No, it will take more than testifying against Barky and his comrades to restore his honor, to the extent he ever had any.
So, the head of America’s intelligence agency allows himself to be put in a position where he can easily be blackmailed. This is not just a matter of his disloyalty to his wife, this is a matter of disloyalty to the country. He willfully put our national security in jeopardy. I don’t think he should be allowed to retire and play golf!
I realize that in Obama’s America infidelity is just an “unfortunate personal problem,” but some of us are concerned that infidelity in one’s personal life implies infidelity in one’s professional life. Petraus’ infidelity could have disastrous consequences for our country, especially at a time when we have a weakened military and an incompetent national leadership.
I believe this is part of a larger play by the Obama regime, the fact that it could be used by them to help cover up Benghazi is just a bonus. The media is already doing a great job of that and will continue to do so. Petraeus is out, Hilary is leaving, Holder is looking for the exit, Big Sis too, Carney, Geithner, etc. Looks like a ‘night of the long knives’ moment to me. With these people out, they can get the real Stalinists in to positions of power. Why do you think Harry Ried is going to eliminate the filibuster? With the House of Representatives in Republican control it doesn’t have anything to do with legislation, if the House doesn’t go along it makes no difference what the Senate passes. Executive and judicial appointments are another matter entirely. Expect to see a parade of Van Jones like apparachiks rubber stamped by the Democrats in the Senate. This is a serious Stalinist attempt to sieze total and permanant power by the Obama junta. Our last chance to stop it just went out the window on November 6. RIP the American Republic.
El Presidente Hugo of the north.
You seem to believe Petraelus would tell the truth about Libya, that’s doubtful, not only to protect his reputation, for all the reasons that implies, but because he’s probably an Obama supporter, I don’t believe he’d have gotten the CIA job if he wasn’t, Democrats don’t share the same detrimental naivete or obliviousness of Republicans, they don’t appoint non believers to any position, much less one so strategic.
No more J Edgar.
Petraeus has never declared his party affiliation, why do GOP assume?
He’ll divorce his wife, marry his newest sweetheart, write books, join think tanks, may even run for president someday. His affairs will be as old news as the affairs of that woman with whom a former president has never had sexual relationships.
Oh, he will be pro-choice, and will run for office as a Democrat, like that Jim Webb guy; and endorses a Democrat, like that Colin Powell guy. A Dem can get away with much more than a Rep. A Dem with high cheek bones could lie to gain affirmative action advantage, a Dem could drive off a bridge and left his secretary drown, a Dem could let his lover run a brothel in his basement…
A Rep who talked stupid would never be elected.
If Petraeus is as smart as he is supposed to be, he is definitely a Democrat.
Petraeus has no party affiliation. He’s on the record saying that he doesn’t vote.
but because he’s probably an Obama supporter, I don’t believe he’d have gotten the CIA job if he wasn’t
What patriot would have wanted the job?
Bingo.
We don’t know much about his politics, but what little we DO know is pure Obama lick-spittle.
I am continually amazed and disgusted by so-called conservatives who want to paint every man who wears a uniform as a patriot and hero.
A good many of them are nothing more than self-serving opportunists, and others are dedicated leftists.
Never liked Petraeus, always got slammed when I said that, mostly by starry-eyed junior officers (Major and below) or by the enlisted fellas. He was too imperious when I worked with him in Iraq, he way too often thought he was smarter than everybody else just because he was a General (We could go into an entire other topic on that, the topic of GenInt, or General Officer Intelligence – something which greatly involves wishful thinking). He was a social climber and back-stabber who got lucky, a user. Where others saw sacrifice in his stepping down from a CINC job to a Specified Command, I saw a person who had some serious problems, problems which I suspect turn out to be being black-mailable. Then, when he is possibly in line for the CJCS, he retires and takes a much less prestigious post at the lib-tard redoubt at McLean! Character, it is always about character. There is a much debated topic in the military services, about those you would trust your life to but never your family (specifically wives and/or daughters). Then there are guys like Petraeus, who I would neither trust my life to nor my family.
Didn’t like him in the field, didn’t trust his judgement as a commander, knew him as an ambitious climber with eyes on the top spots. And now, I will be called out for piling on. So what!
My question is, why don’t we ever fire any generals any more? Why don’t generals ever resign in protest anymore? Only “protest I have seen in the last 10 years was by a USMC 3 star, and that was only after he had been told he would go no hire and he had put in his retirement papers. Such courage.
S/F, Webfoot Warrior
You won’t be called out by me. You just reiterated everything I have heard from those I still have in-service. You pegged him exactly. A shameless self-promoter and precisely the type of officer I came top abhor.
There is a level in government above which you cannot get without being a whore of some sort. It is possible though not probable to get to high elected office and remain an honest person. It is impossible to get to and keep high appointive positions and preserve your honesty and integrity.
I’ve dealt with a lot of retired military officers; there are so many in our state government that they have their own acronym, RMOs. Most of them outside the combat units, and unfortunately even some of them, are simply bureaucrats with a limited wardrobe and most of them have the same bureaucratic infighting skills, and just about the same morals, as the eunuchs in a Turkish whorehouse.
I am not sure I believe any of this, this woman or girl looked young enough to be his granddaughter. Look deeper I think this is the story that was elected to be made up and he left. Remember this Administration is above the law when they want to get around something.
It has been reported that he was instrumental in launching the video cover story. That he went Capitol Hill, met with key members of both houses, and strongly implied that the video was the trigger. He’s implicated in the cover up. How honorable, decent and patriotic was that?
And Valerie Jarrett doesn’t have the principled determination of Javert. She’s spiteful and cruel, but she has no devotion to the law or blind justice, just to Barry and the Left. I consider her the Madame de Farge of this administration. I wonder if old Val knits.
And Valerie Jarrett doesn’t have the principled determination of Javert.
That was a ridiculous analogy.
I doubt she knits but 5 will get you 10, she watched a fair number of heads roll down the streets of Chicago, and probably dated Monsieur Le Guillitine.
“Well, as they say, elections have consequences, and this one’s a doozy.”
You can say that again. This whole thing comes down to how the mainstream media covers this. Will they be as anxious to go after this White House as they were over the Iran-Contra affair, or will they just keep on carrying Obama’s water and ignore the whole thing? If the past is any indication, they will just ignore it, bury it, and help Obama any way they can, just like they did in the weeks before the election. I don’t know how those jackals live with themselves, I really don’t. You have four dead Americans here, literally a ton of questions, and the mainstream media not lifting a finger to find out more about it. And then they wonder why the bulk of Americans today don’t trust the mainstream media.
Dare we ask whose asset is the lovely Ms. Broadwell? That is some resume she has and you don’t get a CV like that without money, friends in high places, and probably both, even if you are an attractive female with the advantages of AA. The places that grant those degrees and put you in those positions are very discriminating as to the political views of the people they allow inside. Other than the military service, her lefty credentials are impeccable.
When I was a fifty-something man with a fairly powerful position in government, albeit in a much smaller pond, I could garner a certain amount of attention from young, or younger anyway, hotties. I had the sense to know that it wasn’t my charm and wit, ruggedly handsome face, or stunning physique they were interested in. In some instances I knew they’d been sent to see if they could compromise me, in others to use me or at least profit from the association. I learned early on that if you were thinking of sleeping with a politically ambitious woman, you weren’t really sleeping with her, you were “sleeping” with her boss. I don’t know that a military career really gives you much training in this stuff, though any time working in DC in a position of any power or access to knowlege should at least teach you something about it.
Who “made” Ms. Broadwell? Who “advised” her to do her dissertation on Patraeus? Who got her the book publishing contract? Who got her the gigs with The WaPo, NYT, and Globe? Who arranged to have a WaPo writer be her co-author? What on Earth made Patraeus think he could trust her? What on Earth made him think her interest was merely romantic? Is a man who got so far really that naive? Or did he think they were both playing for the same team? Something ain’t adding up here!
Why not confess the whole thing during testimony instead of resigning? And petraeus is supposed to be ops genius? Dont make me laugh…
The fact that Petraeus did not stand up for good before the election, when he could have single-handedly rid us of Hussein proves he is no man of honor.
The CIA — or ANY “centralized” intelligence agency — is a bad thing. Clearly it is subject to a political or agenda-group driven takeover, just for being a single point of failure. There are a number of fatal intrinsics — the major one being, imo, that it’s divorced from responsibility for USE of the information. Indeed ObamaTeam’s taleover is a natural attempt by a motivated team to MAKE IT RESPONSIBLE FOR USE OF THE INFORMATION IT GATHERS, at least politically.
Think of this: What does “customer” or “consumer” of intelligence mean? It’s a ridiculous concept when you consider it. If the intelligence is needed, useful, used — the commander or executive using that intelligence, applying that intelligence, is no mere customer, like a teenager with a credit card at some major mall.
Centralization is potent force for conformity, for establishment of bureaucracies with more concern with pecking order, office politics, all the bad habits and inertia of bureaucrats and bureaucracies. In intelligence gathering it is like wearing blinders.
The CIA, and the other big “intelligence” establishments really block the channel. A false comfort, jusdt be being, they block the ad-hoc creation of truly vibrant and vital channels of information where it is needed to those who need it. It is VERY IMPORTANT that those who make decisions for actions have the savvy, develop the savvy to create their own intelligence sources a that they are not ashamed of mentioning or acting upon. Why would they be ashamed? Because the intelligence establishment mocks at challengers in order to protect its franchise . This is not a good thing.
I wonder what Obama had on General Dempsey that compelled him to call an American citizen and berate him for exercising his 1st Amendment rights?
You can almost hear our malignant-narcissist-in-chief say, “We are both gentlemen here. I am sure that it would be better for all concerned if you would simply bow out quietly. Just sign here….”
http://www.humanevents.com/2012/08/01/ann-coulter-obamas-signature-move-unsealing-private-records/
The bio, authored by the mistress, is entitled, “All In”.
What a coincidence.
Mr. Walsh wrote: “Petraeus should welcome the opportunity, and in fact insist on it. It would be his final act of patriotism…”
It is also possible – despite an admirable military career; but for his Israel problem and his apologies to the enemy for offending the “holy” Qur’an – General Petraeus is a low life like his boss, Barack Hussein Obama, who he (Patraeus) chose to serve.
If “affairs” required resignations, the halls of congress would be empty…A congressman bought the house across the street from my house for his congressional aide. He would visit sometimes and was very noticable in his flashy convertible in a station wagon neighborhood. WE all laughed about it.Virtually the same thing happened in the pentagon and nothing happened. I can speak from personal experience.
I am wondering if there was some ulterior motive on the part of the woman writing the biography. Is she from Chicago?
This whole scenario reeks of the typical Obama operation of attacking any opponents through personal relationship history.
This operation has been fine tuned by the Democrat Party, and used whenever they want to smear somebody into submission.
Someone must tell the story behind the story so I will. As we enter the age of Great Faith in the True God our leaders see how their sins destroy our nation. David Petraeus himself see this having great victory in Iraq then he see failure in Afghan and he see for himself what sins of a leader do to bring failure to the mission . I believe Eisenhower would have had much easy defeating Nazi if he not commit serious sin against his wife
So David Petraeus reminded of his great sin when CIA was exposed in Cartagena as being whore mongers as I went their in July bringing the 7 angels with me and making deal with the founder of the city Pedro de Heredia jailed under the ocean that he would be released from his hell prison if he sends his spies from the Neptune undersea kingdom to help in bring down CIA whore mongering
I believe all the USA leaders are becoming aware of the destructive effects of sin as the True God brings down heaven to earth in our time.
Our leaders increasing their faith in the True God mean the war with the demons spoken of in God’s word the bible in Ephesians chapter 6 can be won by the angels of God if our leaders become dedicated to staying away from these big serious sins that allow the demons to gain power
Video to go along with these words above
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlRfyjPWAMc
As we all know, sh!t between men and women happens (especially in war zones). Infidelity has been part and parcel of the human experience since we started pairing off. So I was casting no judgement on that aspect of it until I got to the part where she breaks it off and he continues to pursue her with “sexually explicit” emails. Emails for God’s sake. David, David, David, you were the CIA Director. What the hell is wrong with you??!
IF the allegation of many emails is true! Some reports are that the FBI investigation started over her hacking into his email. Now who would report that? If Army IT people saw it in their monitoring, would they tell him before going to the FBI over it? Even CIA monitoring would probably go to him first unless the monitoring was a part of some sort of operation against him; not everyone plays on the same team at CIA and some don’t even play on the US team. If I have control of the IT people, I can generate anything from your account.
I’m becoming more and more convinced that this is some sort of take down and maybe even that the affair itself or the allegation of an affair was some sort of operation against him. Too much doesn’t add up.
There’s email, and then there’s gmail. Ordinary generic email is from the original 1970s era internet and is completely insecure. Only a moron would put sensitive information in an ordinary email. Webmail is a different story. Gmail in particular is done over a secure https connection, and is impervious to normal hacker methods. There are really only two ways to get into that; 1) phishing, and 2) somebody at Google with access to the entire gmail system.
I don’t think Petraus is dumb enough fall for 1, so that leaves 2, which is completely believable. I’m sure Google is tight as wallpaper with the administration.
” don’t think Petraus is dumb enough fall for 1″
We’d like to think that of somebody who’s been in such positions but God knows I’ve seen people do some really stupid stuff on email that they knew was subject to monitoring and had all sorts of prohibitions that they’d agreed in writing to abide. How many times I’ve seen an email start with something like, “The State is probably monitoring this …” and they’d go on to say the most outrageously improper things. ‘Course, when you fired them for it they and their unions would start howling about free speech and privacy. I’d really like to know more about the woman. Except for the military stint her resume just reeks of Lefty.
Petraeus refused to take the fall for Benghazi. So his bosses looked for dirt to feed their news minions and to soften up the next patsy.
Gut Feeling.
Wow, this soap opera sure takes our minds off the fraud of an election that just occurred, doesn’t it? Come come now, time to move on.
This is totally wrong-headed, though I imagine it will become the conventional wisdom.
Patraeus did’t resign as a general, he resigned as D/CIA. ANY D/CIA would have to resign or be fired under these circumstances. Agency rules and common sense require it of someone in such a position of trust and leadership over the nation’s primary clandestine intelligence service.
“Have you done anything about which you could be blackmailed or otherwise coerced?” is a standard question asked in all security interviews.
I bet if he pushed poop, and had a reprobate mind, he would still be in charge.
What about his number 2? If he knew his boss was being a bad boy, how long did he go along with it? Well, deep down, no pun intended, I’m glad the men in the CIA love tail.
enjoy the read keep it sent
it is interesting that your take of the general is that of a hero thrown out by the scoundrel in the white house. general Petraeus was a willing participant in the obama game, if he wasn’t then he could have resigned rather than follow what he felt were unlawful or immoral orders.
orders like the following:
-providing technical advisors to known al qaeda miltias.
(telegraph 25 march 2011) al qaeda connections bragged on with abdel-hakim al-hasidi mentioned by name. google abdel-hakim al-hasidi and hes the leader of the libyan islamic fighting group. google libyan islamic fighting group and you find that it is the parent group of ansar al-shariah, the group that claimed responsibility for the benghazi attack. the article specifically mentions embedded advisors (speculated cia) and even a quote from the state department stating that these al qaeda connections “didnt suprise” them.
-arming known al qaeda militias.
wnd “now media giants battle” oct 28 2012 quotes both AP and Reuters as claiming that the pentagon admitted it was funneling weapons and equipment to the libyan islamic fighting group through the cia.
- fighting beside known al qaeda forces
the second battle of benghazi is easily found all over the internet. one of the largest militias fighting was the libyan islamic fighting group. any decent account of the battle notes that they were breaking and retreating when usa airstrikes hit gaddafi forces and destroyed them. want to bet these air strikes were guided in via the embedded technical support and/or drones
sounds to me like the general got sucked into the presidents kool aide drinking and got involved in some treasonous behavior.
The real woman’s name is Bengazi.
It looks like Obama and his Chicago team think that the people of this country are idiots. In fact, they are, and the election results have proved that.
Did anyone happen to notice that Dave turned 60 two days before he resigned? This whole thing makes sense now. A brilliant and skilled professional who loves his work but detests his jackass boss puts up with the crap as long as he can, hoping the boss gets canned in the election and when that doesn’t happen decides to take some time off and rubs it in everyone’s face by BRAGGING that he’s been leap frogging a woman who is young enough to be his daughter and hot, hot, hot. Dave knows how Benghazi happened and know one wants that information on public view UNTIL all the political gain can be milked from it. Can you say President Petraeus?
Wishful thinking, pie in the sky. Watergate was a creation of democrats in Congress, the legacy and monopoly Media and virtually all civic institutions which had become the madrassas for the destructive left and had/have a pathological hatred for Nixon.The flag bearer of this destructive Left is this Obama who you suppose is threatened in any way by the behaviours of his top-brass.
The personnel of note of this subversive destructive Left anti-American. Too good for this nation of commoners they saw only as willing underlings to serve them in their benign slavery. The sword of Damocles implied/inferred.
They looked for and found collectivism/imperial court/commissariate as Idea to counter the IDEA of individual freedom/constitutional protections of individual rights, self-governance and the responsibility inherent. As bonus to their rage against commoners who with more important things to do did not adequately honour their intellectual superiority and betterness.
Preferring instead practical and creative men with presence in the world of flux and uncertainty as mentors. In doing so producing of the nation and her people the richest and most important AND not to put too fine a point on it most generous nation in history. Those Americans, those Yanks – those commoners – could be, must be, should be taken down a peg.
The intellectuals in educational institutions, their handmaidens in politics and propaganda/entertainment who lusted after power over the lives of those despised commoners volunteered in droves for the task.
How best to achieve their aims. To train the populace, those arrogant, proud and essentially independent Yanks to the bitter knowledge they had no moral, ethical or civic right to be proud of themselves or their nation. They are in fact the most evil, the most selfish, the most arrogant the most “racist”, the most “sexist”, the most ignorant people who ever lived.
If you think a sex scandal with one of his underlings – why a scandal after the “sexual peccadilloes” of high mucka-mucks and the immediate presidential forbears of Obama in the socalled democratic political faction?? can unseat their Messiah/New Kennedy, you’re whistling Dixie.
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