I got an email from a friend in Poland, commenting on the enormous change in style following the fall of communism. Everyone was in black and gray in the bad old days, but that went out with the Soviet Empire, and people started to wear colorful clothes.
It was the same in Spain. Under Franco, the women were all in black and gray, but within a couple of months they were in red, yellow and orange. Wonderful!
It’s not just the Muslims who dread free women. Dictators always do, regardless of the official ideology. This discussion always gets distorted by those who think that women should be “free” to wear anything they wish, thereby missing the point that the misogynists are the ones calling for burkas etc. But the apologists for the Islamists find positive things to say about the women who cover themselves up. I remember a leading American female journalist, at the time of the 1979 Revolution, saying that she felt sexier in a chador than in a miniskirt. Believe me, she wasn’t. And those anti-female dress codes are not canonical, by the way. It’s not the Koran that says women have to cover themselves, it’s imams and mullahs and sheikhs, giving their own interpretations.
All of which is a long introduction to the revolutionary nature of Mousavi’s wife, Zahra Rahnavard. She’s religious and wears a head covering, but during the campaign she said that, while she thought women should cover their heads, if any women chose not to, that was fine with her.
That sort of freedom strikes at the dark misogynistic heart of the Islamic Republic, as women in colors threaten dictators everywhere.
And the failure to defend Iranian women is a very black spot on the honor of our three female secretaries of state, and of the so-called feminists, who for the most part have thrown in with the misogynists. Why? Because defending women’s freedom would have been “good for Bush,” and now would be “bad for Obama,” who famously swore to throw his support to school girls who wanted to wear a hijab to class.
UPDATE: There’s a very brave female journalist in Sudan who was arrested for wearing pants (Freud would have fun with this one, eh?), and refuses to (even) pay a fine. Al-AP is so excited they even screwed up the headline, which itself is worth some free association (they confused “flogging” with “fogging,” and I hope they are careful about the pronunciation).
And with regard to Nazi Germany, remember that the Fuhrer was quite insistent that women know their place: Kirche, Kuchen, Kinder…”church, kitchen and children.”
UPDATE II: Thanks to Prayer, News & Action for linking. There are other interesting links about “Women in Gray” etc.
The drabness of uniformity. If anyone is looking at what else the insecure power-hungry ultimately bring, I’m all ears.
For, when was the last time anyone who was power hungry was an optimist?
They had to have power in their hands, because
they were not satisfied with the status quo to effect the change that the power-hungry deems is necessary.
Yep, once again every topic makes its way back to Tehran.
BTW, the female minister elected to be minister of Health MRS. Marzieh Vahidi Dest… is the sister of the newly elected Defence minister Ahmad Vahidi who is supposedly wanted by Interpol. She was (sure)and is (not sure) the personal physician to Mr Khamenie’s family.
Both of those siblings are very well known for their hardwork, smartness, getting resuts & efficiency..etc… It is no wonder they were elected by Parliament so quick.
Now, ofcourse some will say but Mr Vahidi was involved in Argentinian events. If indeed true, doesn’t mean his judgment is poor or he is dumb. So this family they are very smart, people in Iranian govnermnt from reformist to hardliners know that.
Hopefully, Mr Ledeen will one day address the news from Alarabiya that a certain Levi Izhak Rosenbaum was involved in kidnapping Algerian kids to Morroco where operations were done.
But, I guess that doesn’t fit in very well. Ah, well they atleast got paid for it. And those Palestinians, ” Oh, no they would never remove organs,” heck that would be totally unethical, until you think in a Howard Stern (reflecting a certain ethnicity’s tendencies and thoughts” , “Oh well, they’re gonna die anyways, let’s HELP people out there.”
Human rights are for humans, not for terrorists, who got shot, HARVESTED and left for the dead.
I just wonder “HOW MANY TERRORIST HEARTS are out there????” “Oy vey, maybe that shlimazel Noam Chomsky has a goyim Palestinian heart and we don’t know”- that actually, might have been used by Late night comedians had it been any other minority involved but in this case “ITS NOT FUNNY!”
AHH, I better start working on a documentary regarding this HOLY business for Iranian Channel 3 news, maybe it would be a start to a nice part time career in TV.
Correction:
For better visualization
Certain quotes in my above commentary should be said in a Fran Drescher ( “The Nanny”) accent coupled with heavy sinusitis.
I was in Poland and Krakow two years ago and I was amazed at the vibrancy of the young women. It was as if the entire country was getting off its knees. Very invigorating.
Interesting point about the uniformity of dress in repressive societies. We saw it in Mao’s China. I think the uniformity of dress for women under the Taliban certainly fits. Not sure about Germany in the 30s and 40s, that may be an example where the model doesn’t fit.
Sir,
If some French happen to read you, then let’s assume that those readers might start to worry about themselves. For, nearly every French is dressed in black or gray–or in undefined colors that are anything but bright, nowadays. The same rule applies to cars, to the point that Frenchies are afraid to choose a bright color for it when they buy a brand new one–it would be harder to resale, eventually. I guess that the exception is apple-green, the color of the ecologist tide and this of the New Left no one ever heard about in this country. This relatively new custom begins at school, where any teen who would have the fancy to wear bright-colored clothes and/or “too flashy” fashion accessories would fall under repeated criticism to the point of ostracizing himself.
Mullahs exists in France too, but those ones are not religious at all. They are unofficial rulers whose main characteristics are the following : like the Iranian Mullahs, they all dress in black colors, nearly all of them ride brand new expensive German cars–Mercedes in most instances–that are inescapably black, though all the owners of such cars never miss an opportunity to claim to everyone that green is their favorite color ; like the Iranian Mullahs, they are untouchables, enjoy close relationship with the gendarmerie that always miss to see what the rest of the population know but wouldn’t dare to talk openly about ; they provide the leftists majors of their towns with funds and with some special assistance during election campaigns. When asked why they choose black for themselves but recommend green to all others people, the answer of those strange folks always limits to this quizzing smile that Frenchies use to translate as a special form of warning one is expected to seriously consider.
All I have written in this comment is preposterous talk… But, in my case, I can openly talk about it because I have lost any hope to find a job again, already, bar menial tasks in part time and for short periods, or positions that would lead me ride away into some serious troubles–the same applies to my wife, of course. I was executive in communication and media, before some French Mullahs launched a “fatwa” on me, 10 years ago.
I’ve always believed that the future of Iran – a liberated Iran – will be at the hands of its brave women. And the Islamic rapist regime of Iran hates and fears the Iranian women.
Back in the 1950s when I was a communist, a young woman I knew in the communist youth organization — I forget its name now — announced she was always going to wear white in order to show her opposition to the beatniks, who always wore black. I guess wearing colors would have been too bourgeois. None of them, beatniks or Soviet-loving American communists, would have dreamed of letting the government dictate what they wore.
Dr. Ledeen,
I heard a lecture a few years back which mentioned some research into the motivation of the young male junior officers of the Algerian army who were then engaged in an extremely viscious civil war against murderous Islamist extremists. (If I remember correctly, the lecture was by Prof. Emmanuel Sivan at a Hebrew University conference in honor of Bernard Lewis’ 80-something or 90th birthday.)
Anyway, according to the lecturer, the prime motivating factor for these junior officers was to defend the relatively elevated status of their wives under a secular regime, against an Islamist enemy who would force them to wear head and body coverings and generaly relegate them to second-class (or worse)status in society.
If this is, in fact, the case, it means that at least some males in some Muslim societies support women’s equality. And that is something to work with.
Women do bring “the passion” to a cause. And it also helps if they are from the same country they are protesting about, specially if its a repressive regime. Just hope they dont get hurt or imprisoned for doing it. I hate seeing anyone, specially women, being harmed. Good Article. Thanks.
#5:
It may depend on your particular cross-section of Frenchwomen. I recently spent a coupe of days in Lourdes, which was overflowing with teenaged French volunteers there to help with the sick. I have rarely seen a more colorful and spirited group. If there is gloom and doom in France, it does not seem to have penetrated to the young people who have kept the faith.
Dom,
“If some French happen to read you, then let’s assume that those readers might start to worry about themselves. For, nearly every French is dressed in black or gray–or in undefined colors that are anything but bright, nowadays. The same rule applies to cars, to the point that Frenchies are afraid to choose a bright color for it when they buy a brand new one–it would be harder to resale, eventually.”
uh, may-be you ought to change your aquaintances !
Anyway for one person that said he was working in “communications bbusinesses”, you seems to ignore how French relate themselves to “elegance”, SOBRIETY is the line. If you happen to know some persons that rule some schools of “stylism”, you would see that they promote black color for themselves but not in their drawings and fashion defilés. Beside while wearing black outfits, they also show the birth of their boobs and or bottoms !
You should also walk into italian streets, then you would be surprised that the people there define themselves with the same colors
“I guess that the exception is apple-green, the color of the ecologist tide and this of the New Left no one ever heard about in this country. This relatively new custom begins at school, where any teen who would have the fancy to wear bright-colored clothes and/or “too flashy” fashion accessories would fall under repeated criticism to the point of ostracizing himself.”
bof, you’re mixing your self dellusion with a fashionable politic discouse : the greens are trying to make a coup d’etat ! you’d better listen to Allègre or Segolène nowadays, they are the people who aren’t lobbied by “green”
“Mullahs exists in France too, but those ones are not religious at all. They are unofficial rulers whose main characteristics are the following : like the Iranian Mullahs, they all dress in black colors, nearly all of them ride brand new expensive German cars–Mercedes in most instances–that are inescapably black, though all the owners of such cars never miss an opportunity to claim to everyone that green is their favorite color ; like the Iranian Mullahs, they are untouchables, enjoy close relationship with the gendarmerie that always miss to see what the rest of the population know but wouldn’t dare to talk openly about ; they provide the leftists majors of their towns with funds and with some special assistance during election campaigns. When asked why they choose black for themselves but recommend green to all others people, the answer of those strange folks always limits to this quizzing smile that Frenchies use to translate as a special form of warning one is expected to seriously consider.”
yeah, I remarcked that the ENA elite affectionnates black color, but are they the majority of the French ? say, they represent 0,o5 % of the population
“All I have written in this comment is preposterous talk… But, in my case, I can openly talk about it because I have lost any hope to find a job again, already, bar menial tasks in part time and for short periods, or positions that would lead me ride away into some serious troubles–the same applies to my wife, of course. I was executive in communication and media, before some French Mullahs launched a “fatwa” on me, 10 years ago.”
you should ask yourself if the problem isn’t rather in the medias means, nowadays all of the medias are on the crisis line, and must cut in their staff, uh you should launch your own net media, that’s where people go and buy now !
Otherwise you’re a lost cause, mourning will not help you !
Secoues-toi les puces, sacrebleu !
I am sorry that I think it is good you are addessing this issue, yet pretending that Islam does not preach the inferiorty of women is dodging an important fact. In Mohammnad’s and other leaders own words he/they say that woman are worth half a man, their testimony worth half. They are like a field or domestic animal to be used. Disobedience is cause to be struck. Hell is occupied by majority women for the crime of being ungrateful. Paradise is a place where they pleasure men, blind and cornered.
Please don’t color this important subject by pretending that Islam does not make it very easy to cover women in black. They are the shame of Allah, honor a heavy burden on their backs.
>> It’s not just the Muslims who dread free women. [...] And those anti-female dress codes are not canonical, by the way.
The the classical neo-conservative (or is there no such thing per R. Perle) polemical style in action, attack Muslims as a general category, then throw in some qualifiers to make sure that it’s not seen as an attack on Islam per se.
Let’s try this: It’s not just the Jews who dread free women. [...] And those anti-female dress codes are not canonical, by the way.
If you had a German making statements prying into how Haredi Jewish women dressed, wishing to “liberate” these women from their oppressive Rabbis, it would rightly been viewed as Anti-Semitism.
So what’s the difference? Let me guess, it revolves around a bizarre conspiracy theory that these veiled Muslims are posing an existential threat to liberal Western society.
The legacy of the neo-conservative movement is essentially a regurgitation of Marxist Anti-Semitism, crudely retooled to apply to Muslims. As R. Perle has stated, his youth was spent in the “hard left” circles of Hollywood. Only one of many “former” left-wing extremists that constitute this peculiar sect.
Let’s try this: I condemn the ultra-orthodox dress restrictions. I’m all for women being free to dress as they wish. And I have nothing but support for any German who says so. Pfui.
Nor do I think that the veiled Muslims threaten Western society; I think that the misogynists who compel them to dress that way are the threat.
Good reply. To be fair, you ML are a very sharp communicator and I suppose we have all learned quite a bit from you over the years.
That said, it’s very easy for us to make the case that you are serving up propaganda, not reality in your public statements. There are only minute differences between your message and that of deranged kooks like Frank Gaffney and Robert Spencer.
Appearing on a known fake conservative network like Arutz Sheva doesn’t add to one’s credibility, if you know what I mean.
Marie Claude,
Thank for your reply. You couldn’t do better to show who you are and why you come here.
“Bien Fraternellement.”
tu tiens à avoir une fessée aussi ?
Society learned long ago to Oppress women, and for good reason;
The early Christian Church ( the first 200 years) survived due to women managing and operating underground churches. Once the Church could sustain itself, bureaucracy of the church told women to keep quiet and removed them from adminstration.
The midwives guild of the early middle ages managed the largest union in Europe, they owned their own Hospitals, clinics, training programs and operated preventive health care programs. When the witch burning craze swept through Europe, the church took over the Hospital system and kicked women out of the largest established health care system in the world. ( we can trace much of our current Health care woes directly to this switch from doctor managed systems to bureaucratic adminstration).
Micro Credit systems that operate successfully have one common denominator, they will only lend money to women in the villages and towns. This results in the money to raise the living standard of family. Programs that give money to men saw funds gambled or spent on alcohol and frivolous items and be wasted, so they ended the practice.
These are only a few historical events that support oppression of women, there are many many more.
Luckily, we do not allow women opportunity to create a better world, We could never manage living in a balanced society when we are in so much debt to the current system.
There is a wonderful play called Lysistrata by Aristophanes. Seems the women of Greece tired of years of war decide to deny their favors to their husbands until they put down their toys and get serious about “real” life. I’m thinking a couple of decades without release for the misogynists in the Middle East would get the point across. After all there aren’t that many goats left over there.
Personally I find it hard to give any credence to a deity that disenfranchises half of it’s creations because of something they cannot possibly control. Makes absolutely no sense at all. Maybe the imams, sheiks and mullahs ought to get their collective minds out of the gutter for a change and go in for some therapy. Might cure their violent tendencies as well. One can but hope.
Inshallah, praise be upon Mohamed
This article is a smear campaign against the true believers, Allah Akbar! – please make a query as “burkinis” to see the beauty of the colorful bathing suit for women that covers all the body from the animal ogle of the “Kafir” men.
#20. Thomas, the phrase ‘praise be upon Mohamed’ made me wonder about an Islamic rule. Supposedly, images of Mohamed are forbidden because Muslims fear that the practice could raise Mohamed to an idolatrous state. I think that has already happened. Concerning the burkini, since there are very few of us [proudly] kafir men in most Islamic paradises, it seems that the women are mostly being protected from the ‘animal ogle’ of Muslim men.
Well let’s get back to women and covering them up because they are a shame to Allah. Since Islam is a belief system that ‘covers’ one from waking to waking, and in fact all parts and every second of a life, it is absolutely fair to single out the faith of Islam and it’s dress codes and belief system about women. Since leaving Islam is punishable by death it is more than fair to examine it’s teachings and its founder. Since Islam is the controlling political and religions system in 57 states of the world it is vital it be examined, and discussed.
Black absorbs light and light can’t penetrate the ‘cover-ups’ about women in Islam.
Mohammad taught that women are worth half the value of men their testimony worth half.
Mohammad taught that women are to be ‘struck’ for the crime of disobedience.
Mohammad taught that the occupiers of hell are mostly women for the crime of being difficult and ungrateful.
Mohammad taught that women were to be used as a field or domestic animal.
Mohammad taught that paradise for men will be female sex-slaves. There is suspicion that this also included children too, but their is controversy surrounding this little pearl of knowledge. It seems that in order to entice certain of the faithful to kill some wishes might have been granted to those who might not find the female figure an enticement.
It seems in certain cases inquiring minds want to know unless inquiring minds find it inconvenient to know.
As far as I know the penalty for leaving Judaism is not death. Funny how the so-called liberals defend a cult of death. This would not be unusual thought since there is discussion about Nazism being attractive to both the far left and far right. Sometimes it seems they join together for a common cause.
On a serious note…Moho please help!
Can someone elucidate us about the hygienic aspect of wearing closed, black chador/burka all day long, under the burning desert sun where they live?
Most of these people bereft of modern appliances like washer-drier, so proper cleaning of that huge mass of cloth is impossible.
How long women hair can tolerate the absence of fresh air, not to mention undergarment? – if they wear any.
No post or references available on this serious matter.
Anyone with experiences?
23. Thomas asked: “Can someone elucidate us about the hygienic aspect of wearing closed, black chador/burka all day long?”
One thing they do run short of under the burqa is Vitamin D:
Try: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/brainiac/2007/06/burqas_vs_bikin.html
The democratic transformations that had taken place over the past 20 year in Eastern Europe had a great meaning for those countries, especially the deep changes within the macro-social system and the subsequent political and economical transformations. For example, changes that took place in 1989 in Poland, it was introduction of the democratic system.
The Polish economy has become one of the most dynamically developing ones in Europe. The country has changed and that Polish people became have differing views, the younger people are revelling in the freedom and the modern lifestyle that democracy has brought.
I have seen amazing tremendous transformations in all scopes in Poland since I came before the end of the 90s. Poland is good example I have seen of amazing democratic transformations after mid-90s.
I even recall how some people, men and women a like who could not speak a word of English; Russian was the second prevalent language in the country. Today the vast majority of Poles do speak English and even the Pole can speak several languages.
However, during the time of communism, most of them had never seen an American a today they travel everywhere. There was no jeans, no modern fashion, no perfumes, no western cars; no Cola, at that time were nothing related to the western brands.
during the era of socialist Poland or (in the black old days) The Polonaise car, at that time the only car produced in Poland, rather old fashioned and very prone to rust and breakdown, and also the Maluch or Fiat 500, a very small car. The restaurants were limited in the variety of food. Almost everyone (WOMEN AND MEN) was in black and gray. But at present you could see elegant restaurants everywhere, in addition to KFC, McDonalds, Pizza hut are everywhere in Poland. The cars in Poland are similar to the cars of the west countries, Ford, Mercedes, Chrysler, Jaguar, BMW, Ford, Toyota, Fiat..etc. At present the people (MALES AND FEMALES) started to wear colorful clothes, a women dress well, a bright-colored clothes,where the modern fashion everywhere in Poland. At present, THE METHOD OF POLES LIFE is different, THEIR LOOK, THEIR FACES indeed became very very good and nice all the time, and today they are quite a western. For instance the vodka was the most popular in Poland, but today they drinking Jack Daniels, Chivas and a lot of kinds of wine.
You can see supermarkets everywhere such as (Makro, Tesco, Carrefour, EKA, Bookstores…etc), in addition to the markets full of (Armani, Boss, Wrangler, Levies, Ginno Rossi, Addidas, Cat, Reebok…etc) let alone AGD, computers and Rtv markets.
Indeed, the life had basically definitely changed in Poland by the start of 1990, after the fall of totalitarian system. But the amazing tremendous transformations took place in the past THIRTEEN years. It is obvious just how dramatically Poland has changed, socially, politically, and economically since mid-90s. THEY ARE FREE THANKS ONLY TO AMERICAN MIND!!!
For instance, the American neo-conservatives had played an effective role to fell the Soviet Communist Empire. They had played an effective role to supporting democracy and freedom revolutions in middle Europe.
However, it very necessary the people of the Middle East learn from those courageous nations as (the revolution of jasmine in Romania, the Ukrainian orange revolution, the romantic revolution in Georgia, the Solidarity revolution in Poland, and other peaceful revolutions as happened in Czechoslovakian and Hungary and Bulgaria). But the nature of our mentality and thinking are basically different, the reason is that Muslim mentality strongly believes in violence and holy war to confront any positive change in our life. We describe any change in a “conspiracy between the west and Israel” against Islam and against Arabic values and culture.
But on the other hand, in the Middle East are a MILLIONS OF PEOPLE are extremely eager to freedom and to be a part of the modern civilization. THEY JUST NEED YOUR HELP AND SUPPORT, therefore it is very imperative the United States supporting the democracy revolutions in the Middle East, even if requires to using the power.
Jassem Othman, Syrian, Poland.
I think I’ve mentioned one serious side effect of swathing women in dark opaque cloth and keeping them mostly indoors: Vitamin D deficiency.
Vitamin D deficiency is implicated in depression, among other disorders.
Women who are vitamin D deficient in pregnancy are more likely to give birth to children who go on to develop schizophrenia.
“Mohammad taught that women were to be used as a field or domestic animal.”
I tried hitching the old lady to the plow…but, she ain’t half as good as an ox.
Just kidding, dear.
Yes, it is not the Koran that says women have to cover themselves, rather the jinx faces of imams and mullahs and sheikhs, giving their own interpretations.
There is no gender equality in the Middle East. Muslim women are not required to cover their faces as is done in some Middle Eastern countries, in spite of the fact that women in Muslim world are in black and gray clothing.
At anyway, the women in general do not enjoy political and social right in many Muslim countries. For example, Saudi Arabia is one of the most sexist and oppressive states in the region. Saudi Arabia’s government is based on institutional sexism, misogyny, and intolerant religious exclusiveness. Saudi women are confined to educational institutions inferior to those reserved for men, not allowed to drive cars, and they are still subject to the legal practice of guardianship, where they need a (Mahrem) a “guardian-a husband or close male relative” if they are widowed or single in order to apply for and obtain a passport. They also need a guardian “Mahram” when they go to shopping despite they are in the BLACK CHADORS that covered them from the head to the toe. Kuwait has yet to grant women the right to vote. The rule of the Taliban in Afghanistan is now emulating the sexist Saudi model. And though they say the Islam has honored a woman!
Dear Michael, the failure to defend Iranian women or Saudi women or any Moslem woman is looking forward for reform it is also a very black spot on the honor of the United States governments. For instance the American support for the Saudi royal family has permitted that radical government to violate human rights and to ignore the pleas of Saudi men and women for reforms. But unfortunately, the US governments gave a lot of financial aids to the oppressive regimes in the region, and still standing up with them, rather than the civil and feminist organizations!
A very fair, clear thinking poster:Jassem Othman
Let’s give credit to his “business card” – according to which he is Syrian living in Poland – and bestow our appreciation upon his enlightened assessment on the Islamic word today.
He represents a fresh, unbiased, intelligent in-dept narrative about the societal ills that plague the Muslim word, in sharp contrast to the foul mouthed, crass, Jihadist, Antisemitic “Moho”.
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While Poland and the Czech Rep. clearly came out as winners from the dark ages of totalitarian Communism, other countries like Hungary has not. The old Communist ruling elite retained all the economical, cultural and political control of the country by switching overnight from Marxism to “Democracy” and during the privatization they acquired the entire country’s wealth for pennies.
Those who were “fingernail-pullers” (KGB agent torturing prisoners) never held to account – they became “respected” citizens in well paying jobs.
Hungary is an abject failure.
“Hungary is an abject failure”.
This is your old adage, Poles and Hungarish never can stand each others, a question ? cuz Hungarish aren’t Slavic ! This is also why they didn’t rejoin the pan-slavic alliance promoted by Poles nowadays, aimed to promote the superiority of the slavic race above non slavic in the region, and to counter EU burocraty
I do not agree with you, Hungary was the state that evolved quite easier than her counter eastern republick neighbours
@31. Marie Claude:
Your ignorance is breath taking:
Pole, Hungarian, two good friends
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
“Pole, Hungarian, two good friends is the short form of the popular bilingual proverbial rhyme about the historical friendship of the Polish and the Hungarian people.
Good relations between the two nations date back to the 14th century with Hungary and Poland being linked by personal union multiple times.”
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The Visegrad Group: the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland and …
Visegrad countries often coordinate their policies to make a more substantial impact, and to achieve more substantial objectives. …
visegradgroup.eu/main.php?folderID=923…4055…
I am more educated about Vercingetorix life during the Roman era than you are about contemporary Eastern Europe.
You are apparently too dense to comprehend that I spent half of my life in Eastern Europe for I was born there…..
It’s not what I read a few month ago, when the twin brothers, Santa Klaus of the Czechs, Ukrainians, trying to renew the race ties, the hungarish Huns were not invited to the party.
Uh, once they were ruled by the Austrian emperor, that also ruled the Balkans, facing there the premices of the racial opposition : slavic populations were invited to break their chains
Besides, you said “Hungary is an abject failure”
@33. Marie Claude:
Your entire post makes no sense to me.
Why don’t you make a quick research on a subject using the Web? Select some reputable sources instead of quoting from Le Canard enchené or l’Humanité.
Before one puts a French word on a forum it’s recommended to check first with Larousse, we have Webster, very handy.
Thomas, the only persons that make me such recommendations, on that board, and elsewhere, (on “conservative blogs”), were, and still, are persons that are originated from Poland.
Cherchez l’erreur !
The thing is, that such persons, and alike you, like to show they are “educated”, (and thus they want to represent themselves as “aware” of the foreign policies),
typical from the former URSS system of selection, some need to show that they are above the plebe
I’m not one pupil of your former classes, and certainly, I don’t care of your lessons, but not of your “racist discourse”
Mr. Thomas, thank you very much for your appreciation. I am really happy still brave people in the west like you. It’s our moral duty to fight evil. We must never waver to speak truth toward Evil. Of course, our people in Muslim world are un-developed nations and extremely late and radical and violent.
A question here, Does Mr Obama’s socialist administration appreciates the sacrifices of people for their freedom? Certainly not!
Would the west do thing for people who risking their lives for their freedom? Probably nothing, except express concern and honeyed words. It was obvious that appreciation to Ms Ayaan Hirsi Ali was done by the coward Dutch government that has submitted to terrorists.
Recently, we have seen the interaction of the western media and that complicity to evil. All were very interested with Michael Jackson’s death, but simply they ignored the rage explosion against a fanatic dictatorial suppressive regime, and they ignored Iranians sacrifices for freedom.
Believe me Mr Thomas! Your life and the American national security are threatened as long as the terror masters are freely moving in the Middle East.
We need just a MORAL SUPPORT, we need just a POLITICAL COURAGE DECISIONS to bring down all tyrannized regimes and to clean the face of earth from terrorists and their supporters.
@37. Jassem Othman:
You said:
“We need just a MORAL SUPPORT
My friend, I have to disappoint you but we are on our own: the “Oil God” holds hostage the the whole world and the Socialist Europeans like the Brits freed the terrorist, the Dutch prosecutes Geert Wilders and Ms. Ayaan H. Ali – and finally the USA joined the crowd:
Obama genuflecting to King Abdullah who is his superior in the Muslim hierarchy.
A Marxist takeover transpired in the USA and it’s irreversible as it stands.
You asked:
“Would the west do thing for people who risking their lives for their freedom?
- West will do nothing.
I was Eastern European at birth: when we revolted against the Soviet Red Army, the Western Europeans supported the Communist mainly the French and nowadays they support the worst dictators ever like Chavez or Ahmadinejad.
You see all these events clearly in Poland but things will get only worse as far as freedom concerns…much, much worse.
Eastern Europeans will resist more forcefully to any attempt at stifling freedom because the “Political Correctness” does not exist over there and people much freer to express themselves than in the USA.
“[I was Eastern European at birth: when we revolted against the Soviet Red Army,] the Western Europeans supported the Communist mainly the French and nowadays they support the worst dictators ever like Chavez or Ahmadinejad”
I haven’t read such a crap since quite a time, wether you’re still of bad faith, wether you’re completly stupid and ignorant
but I opt for bad faith, and I would say that :
“you miss the opportunity to STFU”, it’s becoming a fashionable theoreme with persons of your accabit
When’t you’ll get a chance between two pairs of shoes your polishing in the US, try to decipherate theses articles
France accuses IAEA’s El-Baradei of covering for Iran’s nuke program
That’s the same El-Baradei who just recently said the Iranian nuclear threat is “hyped.”
“Mohamed ElBaradei left out evidence of Iran bomb, France claims,” from the Times, September 8 (thanks to Awake):
[...] [El-Baradei] will not be universally missed. Long chided for being soft on Iran, he goes into this year’s conference amid a diplomatic storm over whether he has deliberately hidden evidence of Iran’s work on a nuclear bomb.
France and Israel have led the charge against Dr ElBaradei, saying that his latest report on Iran’s nuclear programme omitted evidence that the agency had been given about an alleged covert weaponisation plan.
The Israeli Foreign Ministry said that the report did not reflect all that the agency knew about Iran’s “efforts to continue to pursue its military programme”.
France went farther, alleging the existence of an unpublished annexe that addresses the evidence that Iran may be building an atom bomb.
Bernard Kouchner, the French Foreign Minister, said that France had attended a technical briefing that covered the material, so was surprised to find it missing from the report.
“In the annexes there are specifically elements which enable us to ask about the reality of an atomic bomb,” he said “There are issues of warheads, of transport.”
The published section of the report focused more on the positive, noting that Iran had slowed its production of enriched uranium and had agreed to closer monitoring of its plant.
Western intelligence agencies had given the IAEA material suggesting that Tehran secretly combined uranium processing, airborne high-explosive tests and efforts to revamp a missile cone in a way that would fit a nuclear warhead.
The agency described the material as compelling and insisted that Iran clarify the matter rather than reject it as fabricated evidence. It is likely, however, that it did not meet the standards of proof required for inclusion in the report.
The Foreign and Commonwealth Office said last night: “If the IAEA has further substantive information, we would hope that it would make such information available.”
cf Jihadwatch
French minister denounces burka
Ms Amara is a French-born Muslim of Algerian parentage
A Muslim member of the French government has backed a court’s decision to deny citizenship to a Moroccan woman who wears the burka.
Urban Affairs Minister Fadela Amara said she hoped last month’s ruling would “dissuade certain fanatics from imposing the burka on their wives”.
She told the newspaper, Le Parisien, the head-to-toe garment was a “prison”.
The Moroccan woman, Faiza M, was told that her practice of “radical” Islam was not compatible with French values.
The 32-year-old, who has lived in France since 2000 with her husband – a French national – and their three French-born children, said she had never challenged the country’s fundamental values.
Social services reports said the burka-wearing Faiza M lived in “total submission to her male relatives”.
Ms Amara, who is a French-born Muslim of Algerian parentage, said she supported the ruling in June by France’s highest administrative court, the Conseil d’Etat.
It is not a religious insignia but the insignia of a totalitarian political project that advocates inequality between the sexes and which is totally devoid of democracy
“The burka is a prison, it’s a straitjacket,” she told Le Parisien.
“It is not a religious insignia but the insignia of a totalitarian political project that advocates inequality between the sexes and which is totally devoid of democracy.”
The minister said she hoped the court’s ruling might in future “dissuade certain fanatics from imposing the burka on their wives”.
Ms Amara, who is also a prominent women’s rights campaigner, said she made no distinction between the veil and the burka, describing both as symbols of oppression for women.
“It’s just a question of centimetres of fabric,” she added.
cf BBC
Mr Thomas, Yes, the USA joined the crowd of cowards, and that attorney General of the United States “Holder” shamefully has made his major priorities in order to prosecute those who arrested the terrorists. His priorities are just so that humiliate those who have protected U.S. National Security!