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11 Facts That Destroy JFK Conspiracy Theories, Part Three

Developing the Secret Ink: Why Lee Harvey Oswald's wife needed a fake birth certificate.

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Ion Mihai Pacepa

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November 20, 2013 - 10:05 am
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Click here for Ion Mihai Pacepa’s introduction, here for Part One, and here for Part Two.

7. Fact: Oswald’s wife arrived in the United States with a fake birth certificate.IMG_3460IMG_3461

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"As usual, everybody is right and nobody really knows."
Postmodernist nihilism. Nothing is true and everything is permitted. Same old story.
43 weeks ago
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Well that's the thing - he wasn't a home-grown Marxist. He was recruited and trained by the KGB. It is very relevant whether he was trained to do what he did by the KGB and they knew it and then they were the ones responsible for putting out the conspiracy theories embraced by the Left which blame the CIA, LBJ, and racist right-wingers.
43 weeks ago
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Says the guy who's never fired a rifle...

No shots could come from the front without passing through the windshield and a front seat passenger to reach Kennedy. No shots came from the front, from manholes, overpasses or anything….period end of story….

And, while I’m at it, no shots came from the side(s) either because:

A) Connelly’s wrist and thigh wounds could NOT have come from the side without bullets penetrating the car…Those parts of his body were never in view to a "sideway-looker" ( I.E. Zapruder or anyone behind or across from him)
And that "Grassy Knoll"? Really?
Trust me, I’ve been there…it’s a LOUSY place to try and shoot at PEOPLE passing by in CARS. Sure, you can hit the cars all day…but the guy IN the car? Without putting any “evidence” holes anywhere ELSE? Not the door not the seat, NOTHING? MMMM, not so much because…

B) No competent marksman, attempting the "biggest shot in history" in absolute secrecy, would ever consider something as "low probability" as a perfect head shot against a moving target, traversing ACROSS his horizontal sight plane.
Im going to Superbowl and….I tie my SHOE LACES together?
When I have BETTER options?
Yeah, THAT makes sense. No "Super Evil Criminal Mastermind" concerned with the SUCCESS of such a high-priority mission, mission, would ever ALLOW one of his "his player" to take such a shot….unless they did it with a SHOTGUN from the side of the road…

C) There were no "multiple shooters" who fired “simultaneously” to “mask” the sound of more gunfire …..you cant "time the shots" to cover each others noise because of the way sound travels….only someone in the DIRECT CENTER of two (or more) shooters will “hear” a single shot if they fire simultaneously, and that’s only in “theory”, never mind actually DOING it. Add people all over Dealy Plaza, NONE of whom is on record hearing anything but 3 shots, and its tin foil hat time.
D) If I was going to “plant” a rifle at that crime scene, I would NOT have chosen a Military surplus 6.5 mm Carcano with PAPER TRAIL…Texas was FULL of better commercial sporting rifles than that in pick-up truck gun racks in pick-ups all over Dallas….and not-a-one-of-them was required to have a SERIAL NUMBER or RECORDED SALES TRANSACTION until 1968…Why would you plant a rifle with a SERIAL NUMBER and a PAPER TRAIL when you didn’t HAVE to?

In other words, why would I try to falsely associate ANYBODY to that rifle, when a FACTUAL “ya’ll ya know we caint trace this’un here back ta nobody” would do the “conspirators” a far, far greater service?

Meaning they could have easily planted a rifle that is an “investigative dead end” WITHOUT EVER NEEDING A PATSY…. who they had to kill… and then kill the guy who killed HIM…And doctor the wounds…and the Zapruder film…. and the Autopsy Photos… and the police radio traffic… and, and, and, and, all the way to infinity?
I thought these guys were supposed to be “professionals”, the greatest Assassins and Conspirators in the world? What a clusterf*ck

And lastly….So, the Russian kept tabs on Oswald…and? News flash, people, the Russians kept tabs on EVERYBODY. So, when a White Trash, American “serial loser” shows up at their embassies, moves over there gets married and comes back here, I’d EXPECT them to keep tabs on him. I’d EXPECT a dossier as thick as a phonebook detailing every person he’s ever spoken to. Wire taps, shadowing him from place to place….That’s what suspicious, totalitarian regimes DO with anyone that attracts their attention.

Too bad WE didn’t pay better attention to this Commie Wannebe Punk-ass loser…

Do the exploits of the Tzarnev Brothers ring any bells?
43 weeks ago
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New theory:
Generalissimo Pacepa is a plant, a matryoshka doll programmed by the FSB to spread crap in new places.

Marina O is the key (because I say so). Isn't Marina a common Mexican first name? Hmm...all those Mexico City links... thought so.
42 weeks ago
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A home-grown American marxist killed JFK, and whether the USSR was involved is irrelevant now. What remains relevant is the continuing perfidy of the American marxists and their adoption of the Kennedy myth to clothe the anti-American left and seduce the media who love simple-minded pretensions of royalty. This is the same way the left has hi-jacked Lincoln in the face of the fact that John Wilkes Booth was a Democratic activist.
43 weeks ago
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Well that's the thing - he wasn't a home-grown Marxist. He was recruited and trained by the KGB. It is very relevant whether he was trained to do what he did by the KGB and they knew it and then they were the ones responsible for putting out the conspiracy theories embraced by the Left which blame the CIA, LBJ, and racist right-wingers.
43 weeks ago
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PLEASE! Enough of these stupid conspiracy theories! The nut oswald killed JFK on his own period.
43 weeks ago
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Let's try again - everybody is right. The Soviets did it. Or, as Roger Stone claims, LBJ did it; or, the Oilmen did it using Mafia hitmen. Or Castro - did Kruschev have a bigger motive than Castro. How many times did US agents attempt to kill dear Fidel? It's documented - more than one time. There is the inevitable demJoos theory out there as well - it was Ben-Gurion and the Mossad, out to get JFK because he was trying to stop Israel acquiring the Bomb. This is a variation of the 'Mossad did 911' and also backs up into the theory that the Bushes and Shimon Peres whacked John Jr., because he was investigating the Rabin assassination; or, Junior had info from late uncle Bobby or from Teddy...

The theories are endless. Almost every one comes with an axe to grind. PajamasMedia, which has long ago given up any pretense at real journalism, is now sponsoring Pacepa's theories out of standard patriotic emotionalism, grounded in real facts about the evils of the Soviet Empire - and perhaps exacerbated by frustration in the face of Russia's re-emergence in the era of the dupe, Barry Obama.

Personally, I think Roger Stone's theory about LBJ carries more weight than Ion's theory. (Of course, Stone has his own agenda, aside from fame and profit, it seems - helping rehabilitate the image of his old boss, the sweaty guy from Whittier, the fallen Quaker Nixon). But this one works best for me - LBJ was a creep; LBJ owned Texas, with Connolly (Connolly in fact was only switched into JFK's limo at the last minute, instead of Sen. Yarborough, no friend of Lyndon's). LBJ's hand was in lots of dirt, from his first Senate Campaign, won with the help of many dead voters, mostly Mexican from the Rio Grande Valley; vote-buying, favor trading, a barely-hidden hatred for the Kennedy's, especially Robert, the Attorney General, fear that his world was crashing down through exposure of his involvement in scandal involving his former top aide and Mafia-type activities with the Dominican. Like a lot of people then, he didn't care for upstart Irish-Americans who played as dirty as good ol' boys and put his cranky old mug in the shadows. And he knew Bobby would let him fall, hard. My vote is for LBJ, if you want to talk plots, with help from some Mafia types, and the quiet approval of a bunch of Generals and others who feared John Kennedy would pull the troops from Vietnam and reach a rapprochement with the Soviets.

Then again, where is the evidence that LBJ had the ability to train and set up Oswald as a patsy, unless he had friends in the CIA who lined that up for him. That alone sets back the theory somewhat, though it's possible that if Lee Harvey was in fact a CIA asset in the past that they would have learned of his plans and passed them on to LBJ, who set his own corresponding plan in motion.

As usual, everybody is right and nobody really knows.
43 weeks ago
43 weeks ago Link To Comment
"As usual, everybody is right and nobody really knows."
Postmodernist nihilism. Nothing is true and everything is permitted. Same old story.
43 weeks ago
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You want to fight, Dave, is that it? You're a fine little pugilist. You wrote that the KGB recruited Oswald, but there is no proof. I said, with a bit of wiggle room, that I think a conspiracy with LBJ involved is the most likely possibility. Pretty clearly, you have become a true believer in the conservative movement, and that's fine. By the way, I never said 'everything is permitted' - nothing of the sort. I said 'nobody really knows' - and that was meant about this case and about some others. You're a sarcastic little twit.
43 weeks ago
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You and PJM obviously made a decision to push Pacepa's theory, convinced that it is true. But there is plenty of doubt about his story. There is more evidence that Oswald acted alone than either the LBJ or the Kremlin possibilities, but you're all in with a set of opinions that you have turned into absolute truth. Enjoy.
43 weeks ago
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Well, speaking on behalf of the people who were around and able to drink whiskey legally at the time - I've read too many assertions that this or that was impossible, probable or certain to believe any of them. But when an ex Eastern European intelligence agent suggests that Oswald might have been a Soviet agent, well Ockham's razor comes to mind. The president gets shot by a guy who just spent a couple of years in Sovietland. The theory that requires the fewest assumptions (the definition of Ockham's Razor) is that the guy might have been a trained agent sent for that purpose. Doesn't mean it is true, but since it is the most obvious theory why have I never read it before? Well, ok - I got sick of JFK books years ago.
43 weeks ago
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If this were a Soviet hit, a few things would be necessary: 1) The mail order rifle would've had to have come from a Soviet agent -- a Soviet agent working for the company that sold the rifle (or the company, itself, could've been a front); 2) The rifle would've been modified; 3) The connection between the company that sold the rifle and a Soviet agent would've been easily traced.
43 weeks ago
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How about an article on one fact that destroys the Warren Commission Report?
To wit: The Zapruder Film that shows two shots from two different locations that are not the Texas School Book Depository.
43 weeks ago
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Ok, we get that you are promoting your own book, which based on what you have posted so far, appears to be poorly written and filled with bad grammar.

But that is typical of most of the cheap conspiracy books. So this is just one of a huge volume of really crappy conspiracy books out there. The only difference is that you are claiming there is a conspiracy behind all the other conspiracy books!

But I suspect that isn't all that unique, as it's highly likely that many of the previous conspiracy books trashed other conspiracy theories in order to promote their books.

In any case, I think I will pass on this!
43 weeks ago
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Did you ever hear of the Cold War?
43 weeks ago
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Did you read the author's bio? He was there behind the iron curtain at the time it happened.
43 weeks ago
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Actually, I died laughing at this part:

"The Romanian part of that operation, codenamed Dragon, was so secret that I had to write out its plan by hand, in one single copy."

It was so very secret, I CAN'T PROVIDE ANY LEGITIMATE PROOF OF ITS EXISTENCE.... TRUST ME ON THIS!!!!

hahahhahahahhahahah!

I should thank you for giving me a good laugh for the day!
43 weeks ago
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Yeah, this guys a turd...

"Facts that destroy Conspiracy Theories" and then...MORE conspiracy theories!

What an embarassing Racket this has become
42 weeks ago
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Bravo, a convincing case.
43 weeks ago
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The only fact any one needs is the Zapruder Film. On it one sees two shots from two differemnt locations and neither of those locations is the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository.
43 weeks ago
43 weeks ago Link To Comment
Says the guy who's never fired a rifle...

No shots could come from the front without passing through the windshield and a front seat passenger to reach Kennedy. No shots came from the front, from manholes, overpasses or anything….period end of story….

And, while I’m at it, no shots came from the side(s) either because:

A) Connelly’s wrist and thigh wounds could NOT have come from the side without bullets penetrating the car…Those parts of his body were never in view to a "sideway-looker" ( I.E. Zapruder or anyone behind or across from him)
And that "Grassy Knoll"? Really?
Trust me, I’ve been there…it’s a LOUSY place to try and shoot at PEOPLE passing by in CARS. Sure, you can hit the cars all day…but the guy IN the car? Without putting any “evidence” holes anywhere ELSE? Not the door not the seat, NOTHING? MMMM, not so much because…

B) No competent marksman, attempting the "biggest shot in history" in absolute secrecy, would ever consider something as "low probability" as a perfect head shot against a moving target, traversing ACROSS his horizontal sight plane.
Im going to Superbowl and….I tie my SHOE LACES together?
When I have BETTER options?
Yeah, THAT makes sense. No "Super Evil Criminal Mastermind" concerned with the SUCCESS of such a high-priority mission, mission, would ever ALLOW one of his "his player" to take such a shot….unless they did it with a SHOTGUN from the side of the road…

C) There were no "multiple shooters" who fired “simultaneously” to “mask” the sound of more gunfire …..you cant "time the shots" to cover each others noise because of the way sound travels….only someone in the DIRECT CENTER of two (or more) shooters will “hear” a single shot if they fire simultaneously, and that’s only in “theory”, never mind actually DOING it. Add people all over Dealy Plaza, NONE of whom is on record hearing anything but 3 shots, and its tin foil hat time.
D) If I was going to “plant” a rifle at that crime scene, I would NOT have chosen a Military surplus 6.5 mm Carcano with PAPER TRAIL…Texas was FULL of better commercial sporting rifles than that in pick-up truck gun racks in pick-ups all over Dallas….and not-a-one-of-them was required to have a SERIAL NUMBER or RECORDED SALES TRANSACTION until 1968…Why would you plant a rifle with a SERIAL NUMBER and a PAPER TRAIL when you didn’t HAVE to?

In other words, why would I try to falsely associate ANYBODY to that rifle, when a FACTUAL “ya’ll ya know we caint trace this’un here back ta nobody” would do the “conspirators” a far, far greater service?

Meaning they could have easily planted a rifle that is an “investigative dead end” WITHOUT EVER NEEDING A PATSY…. who they had to kill… and then kill the guy who killed HIM…And doctor the wounds…and the Zapruder film…. and the Autopsy Photos… and the police radio traffic… and, and, and, and, all the way to infinity?
I thought these guys were supposed to be “professionals”, the greatest Assassins and Conspirators in the world? What a clusterf*ck

And lastly….So, the Russian kept tabs on Oswald…and? News flash, people, the Russians kept tabs on EVERYBODY. So, when a White Trash, American “serial loser” shows up at their embassies, moves over there gets married and comes back here, I’d EXPECT them to keep tabs on him. I’d EXPECT a dossier as thick as a phonebook detailing every person he’s ever spoken to. Wire taps, shadowing him from place to place….That’s what suspicious, totalitarian regimes DO with anyone that attracts their attention.

Too bad WE didn’t pay better attention to this Commie Wannebe Punk-ass loser…

Do the exploits of the Tzarnev Brothers ring any bells?
43 weeks ago
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So says the guy who has never been to Dealey Plaza.

Here are three facts for you:

A) The trajectory from a second or third floor window in Zapruder's building, (the one across the street from the Texas School Book Depository), lines up JFK's throat wound with Governor Connallly's back wound.

B) The top of the 'Grassy Knoll' is a foot or two above the top of the President's Limo's windshield.

C) The throat shot and the head shot that are seen in the Zapruder film are impossible to make from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository. That is why it has never been re-enacted or replicated.
43 weeks ago
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You are HIGH...
Impossible for the Wrist/thigh woulds to come from the Knoll, without hitting the car its called "geometry" and its a rather exact science.

All the Dealy Plaza wounds are back to front, entrance/exit, and are IMPOSSIBLE to line up from any MILDLY crossing shot from ANYWHERE in Dealy Plaza that a rifleman could have been concealed....if it wasnt Oswald in the 6th floor window, then the rifle was suspended in mid air, via a black hole from another time and dimension, which we all know would be controlled by BOOOOSH, because after all, it IS Texas, right?

Never been duplicated?
Smoke another bone, dude, I hear its legal now.

Kennedy took the head-shot at 88 yards from that window.
Undisputed fact.

Guess what? Oswald never shot a rifle at LESS THAN 200 YARDS when he was trained in Boot Camp...

Thats where the "closest" targets are...Sitting, keeling, standing, no artificial "rest" for the barrel, and no SCOPE...we shoot out to 500 yards WITHOUT using an artificial support, like, oh, I dunno, a WINDOW LEDGE?.

Or a SCOPE

Gee, how do I know what the traditional USMC Rifle Marksmanship program for the last 100 years has been? I was an Instructor.

So I can tell you, Oswald would have HAD to achieve decent hits on targets at 500 YARDS to qualify as a Sharpshooter, thats just how the qualification and scoring system works. A pretty impressive feat for anyone who's ever handled a rifle, but our standards are almost "Olympic competition level" high.

Oswald was an "upper-mid level" rifle shooter according to the Marine Corps, which train the best marksmen in the WORLD. Punk could shoot, thats for sure.

So lets see now, a Trained Marine Rifleman....88 yards....and a Mellon, moving slowly AWAY from you, (not crossing).... and you need two out of three hits....

With a RESTED barrel, on a SCOPED rifle.

You think its never been duplicated? Seriously?

We did it SO many times as an "experiment" they made us STOP DOING IT because it was "disrespectful", and I have to say I agreed with them....

Because everybody, EVERYBODY we "set up" that challenge for, was able to do it. (and some were even three for three)

Our chain of command made us STOP doing, circa 1987, because it was no longer a "one-time experiment" to satisfy our "scientific/ballistic curiosity", it was becoming a ghoulish sort of "game" everybody wanted to try, and it would be a lot of bad P.R. for The Corps if we continued.

Yeah, its been done before.
Most notably, in Dallas 1963
43 weeks ago
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You are ranting about something you don't know.
The only way to replicate what is seen in the Zapruder Film is to have one shooter in a second or third floor window on the Elm Street side of Mr. Zapruder's building, and have him aim for the upper left trapezius of the target. That shot will exit the throat and hit the secondary target seated directly in front in the back. A second shooter will be behind the stockade fence atop the 'Grassy Knoll'. His shot will be aimed at the upper right crown of the target's head. That shot will throw the head backwards and knock a big hole in the back of that head.
43 weeks ago
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I dont rant, I deal with known relevant facts, common sense and plausable conclusions, based on experience and knowledge.

You seem to have some unsettled emotional issues with the concept of “reason”, possibly from your tin-foil hat being too tight…

Allow me to loosen it up for you….The Grassy knoll was a crossing shot, no one worth handing a rifle to would have attempted it, period, end of story. Implausible, unreasonable, and fully contradicted by all known physical and photographic evidence. Get over that dead horse, it didn’t make sense then, and it doesn’t now, and I'd venture to bet most of those who "propose it" dont actually BELIEVE it themselves

Because to fit that ridiculous “Knoll Theory” , the wound path would have to be a diagonal, right-front-to-left- rear orientation…a small entry hole on "the Zappruder side" , (somewhere around temple/ just above his right eye area?), with the larger, explosive EXIT wound on the OPPOSITE side of the camera view (somewhere around/above his left ear?)…such a bullet path would have most likely left hole in JACKIE, somewhere in the rear deck of the CAR.

And we have incontrovertible photographic evidence that that is NOT what occured...the explosive head wound you see, the one that expels brain matter FORWARD, AT A FASTER RATE OF MOVEMENT THAN THE CAR?

Yeah, THATS the exit wound..

Because. The shot. Came. From. Behind.

Unless there was a second shooter, stationed in the WORST possible location…

And the Film itself was altered (by a team of technicians who KNEW what to alter the images to?)

And the autopsy photos and drawings were ALSO altered, (by ANOTHER team who ALSO knew "what the conspirators” wanted?)

And lets not forget all the eye witnesses, including folks IN THE CAR who survived, who all heard pretty much the same thing…three shots from behind.

Unless “The Conspirators” were able to get to THEM TO, and coerce them to follow a false narrative when they REALLY know otherwise….

Yeah, that’s SO much more plausible than a trained sharpshooter, in an easy perch, getting off a mellon shot at under a hundred yards...

Holy crap, the president just got shot in front of my workplace, time to head across town for a MOVIE?

As plausible as every live news feed of 9/11 being doctored on-the-fly with pre-shot footage from evey possible angle.....

NONE of those passengers died, right!?…their being held on an Island, with Elvis, Marylin and JFK’s missing brain.

So, where's YOURS been hiding out lately, slick?
42 weeks ago
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Really?
One actually sees these shots - the triggers being pulled, the locations they are made from, the people making the shots, the bullets in the air?
That must be one interesting film.
43 weeks ago
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No, silly. You see two shots hitting their target.
43 weeks ago
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That's why it's called "Super" Eight!
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