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Cleveland House of Horrors: Should Somebody Have Done Something?

Preventing gruesome crimes like Ariel Castro's isn't as easy as passing more laws.

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Paula Bolyard

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May 13, 2013 - 7:00 am
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When news of a horrific crime like the Cleveland kidnappings and subsequent escape and rescue breaks, what follows is a media circus and 24-hour news cycle. It’s not unusual to hear reporters, in their quest to fill space and time, making vapid comments and asking extraordinarily dumb questions. We can always count on Piers “That’s Appalling” Morgan to add to the collective tomfoolery. On Friday night he asked a “man on the street” in Cleveland (in his most earnest, probing voice), “Is there a sense of collective guilt?”

Morgan was referring to all the people who certainly overlooked clues that something was terribly wrong at the house on Seymour Avenue in Cleveland. How could a man keep three young women imprisoned in his home for ten years without anyone noticing? Shouldn’t the neighbors have known that something ghastly was going on there and then done something about it? Shouldn’t service workers like meter readers and mail carriers have noticed signs that this wasn’t a normal home with one resident? And perhaps most disturbing, shouldn’t police have investigated alleged calls by neighbors who reported odd things they saw at the residence?

Somebody should have done something, right?

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Should "somebody" have done something?

Castro's crimes a mere 10 years old. And we do know that the LAW
moves very slowly and cumbersomely . Unless some celebrity or government biggie is the "problem".

If culprit then the "full weight of justice" is brought to bear as payment for disrespect of compatriots and the social contract manifest as law an acquittal or wet noodle slap is entirely just. Those legalistic dotted i's amd crossed t's a useful instrument of the law when expecient, n'est-ce pas? All participants in the "trial" to proceed to the ususal and expected fortune in talk shows, books, personal appearances, etc. The "culprit" to become the "pillar" of the political faction for which he/she was/is flag bearer.

Other vintage examples of "somebody doing something". Or nothing. Government agents/agencies enjoined to monitor facilities created by politicians/government "for the good of the People". Which monitoring to be done annually. Actual on the ground oversight in lieu of ticking boxes to keep the money and the protected government jobs rolling delayed for as far as we are told a MERE 17 years.

And only when another government agency with a different goal inadvertently "discovers" the "faults" in the management of the "helpful" culprit.

Culprit found, penalty assured. And the agents/agencies of the government protection Agencies. Bigger and better. Six honest serving men who, what, why, where, when and how?
1 year ago
1 year ago Link To Comment
Finally some sanity in all this! Too often, I see Americans steering toward surrendering their freedom for some false promise that doing so will somehow make their lives better. It will not! The Piers Morgan types are collectivists who see society as some collectively functioning body where everything must be for the good of the collective and the individual comes second, at best. This crime was the act of one sick individual and was not the fault of the neighbors, the cable guy or anyone else. There have always been evil people (even in the most oppressive and un-free societies in human history) and there always will be. What's important is how YOU live your life and treat others. That is your responsibility - period!
1 year ago
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Maybe there should be a law that when a minor disappears in a certain neighborhood, the police can conduct a house to house search indoor and out(no warrant required to enter) within a 2 - or 3-mile perimeter...I think Castro lived that close to the girls' homes. And with more than one gir missing from the same block, why weren't those families out walking the area constantly, calling their names and scanning windows in case they were being held nearby? I did that for my missing cat and with the help of a poster got her back a month later.
1 year ago
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@stephshar - ARE YOU FRIGGIN KIDDING! There's a sign-post up ahead...
1 year ago
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Warrantless searches? See: U.S. Constitution
1 year ago
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I have yet to see an electric or gas meter in any of the many states I've been in, located INSIDE anyone's private dwelling. They don't want the meter readers having to gain access to the home to read it.Walk up to the OUTSIDE of the house, check the numbers, and on to the next. They are not stupid. SO, MISTER morgan the knucklehead barmy brit, what ARE you on about? Once more you step in it then put that mucked up foot deep into your big mouth. Chew well, enjoy the flavour.

This criminal got away with his perverted activities for so long because he knew how to lay low, not make waves, keep to himself. Many others do those things, though for honest reasons. Europe, then most of Asia, were overrun by communist and nazi hordes precisely because of two things.... first, the people were disarmed, second they were divided into factions, set one against another, encouraged to snitch on their neighbours by all manner of perverted means. Read Marx, its all there, and its happening here. Morgan is helping. HE needs to be tossed back across the Pond.
1 year ago
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"So when I hear Piers Morgan talking about “collective guilt” in Cleveland and others asking if “someone” should have done “something” to rescue the young women sooner, I get nervous, because the “something” might take us places as a society we don’t want to go, which might include neighbors reporting neighbors for anything that’s a little abnormal and considering whether service workers should be mandatory reporters of deviant behavior"

That's EXACTLY where the Progressives want us to go. They want children informing on their parents, neighbors reporting neighbors, etc. In such an environment it becomes almost imposssible to organize resistance.
1 year ago
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U R Nutz.
There's probably many more sex slave houses and torture chambers in detroit that will never get unearthed.
And if they are muslim households, the Just-Us department will be all over you like stink on garbage, because that's RACIST.
Then you get audited.
Finally you make the headlines in the local news, and the media camps out in your front lawn.

Were We a great country, or what?
And Our history is being cleansed by the Democrat/Progressive indoctrination.
1 year ago
1 year ago Link To Comment
There's something else that has to be addressed here, the neighborhood. A mixed-race working class neighborhood simply doesn't get the attention from anyone - police or residents - that a more affluent enclave would get. We see it time and time again. A young black or Hispanic girl vanishes and the media, which really does drive these sorts of cases, yawns. A white college girl disappears and it's on all the local and cable channels. Unfair, but true.
1 year ago
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Gotta agree with Paula here artghost - not sure where your getting this? I remember a ton of media coverage and efforts to find those girls. I still have a mental image of the missing person posters that were posted everywhere. You should really be careful with loose cynicism - doesn't help.
1 year ago
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FWIW, in two of these cases (the minor girls), there was a great deal of media attention. When someone posted on Facebook that Amanda Berry had been found alive, I knew the name immediately, even though it had been ten years since she had gone missing. Same with Amanda DeJesus. That's a tribute to their families who badgered the media relentlessly to keep their names out there and held vigils every year on the anniversaries on their disappearances. In fact, the scum Castro even made the girls watch the commemorations on TV and celebrated with cake every year. Also, Greta and America's Most Wanted covered the stories.

When they were recovered, many local reporters who had covered the stories since the beginning were visibly emotional. Same with some police who said they had invested thousands of hours in the cases.
1 year ago
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> Because, you know, homeschooled kids are supposed to be smart and know everything by age five.

Sorry, I thought this was PJMedia. Somehow my link got screwed up and now points at Daily Kos.
1 year ago
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Okay, sorry, I see where you're heading.
1 year ago
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Well, your first mistake is listening to Piers Morgan. But seriously, yes, someone should've done something, and that is the police when they went to inquire about complaints made by the neighbors.
1 year ago
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Reports that police had been to the house (or even called) may have been more urban legend than fact:

"That casts serious doubt on the tales a few Seymour Avenue neighbors told reporters yesterday, that people saw a naked woman or women in restraints in Castro’s back yard and called the cops.

City officials have said they have no record of calls about the house. “Our position has been confirmed by the victims themselves,” safety director Martin Flask said to me today."

http://www.clevelandmagazine.blogspot.com/2013/05/no-evidence-against-pedro-onil-castro.html
1 year ago
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Always assume news reports are ALWAYS wrong in important ways. Even when I was high school in the late 70's I noticed the news was always wrong on subjects i know. Now decades later I have yet to see an exception, so I have to assume that reports on things I don't know about are wrong too.
1 year ago
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As we've seen this week, the media are the last group in America to understand this.
1 year ago
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Interesting, thank you.
1 year ago
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Hahahah. People are already reporting one another. An author used the term "diminutive half-breed" in a fictional story. Some moron author flagged it in a Tweet and the first author abjectly apologized and re-edited the finished story online.

Both versions are up as the equivalent of ten Hail Mary's or something.

Another online magazine removed a novel and fired staff over a novel about anti-racism even though the boycotters admit publicly they read only one chapter or even none of the novel. There's little doubt the intention of the novelist was good and not a veiled attack on black folks, the race-nauts just didn't like the way it was done. Turn about is not fair play I guess.
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