Are Young Black Men Rejecting Obama?
The number of young black men who cast a vote for the Republican presidential candidate in 2012 tripled that of 2008. Hearing this statistic, one commenter quipped, “Is this one of those situations where three times nothing is still nothing?”
No. “Nearly 20 percent of black males under 30 voted for Romney, more than three times what McCain got.” That according to Ann Coulter, who gets her information from Pew Research.
How? Why? Is there a growing number of young black conservatives?
Those stand as worthy questions. Answering them properly would require follow-up polling. Any number of factors could have informed these votes, which deviate markedly from the wider black community. At large, blacks voted 93% for Barack Obama, making it all the more fascinating to ponder why young black men trended toward the Republican candidate.
While we must wait and see if more comprehensive polling provides answers, likely influences upon the black vote hang ripe for analysis. Generally, it makes sense that the proverbial honeymoon is over. President Obama’s second inauguration cannot be as historic as his first. The novelty of beholding the nation’s first black president has faded over time.
Of course, there must be more to our cited trend than that. If fading novelty were the only factor, we would see the trend across the entire black electorate, and not merely among young black males. What do they see that their elders don’t?
For one thing, blacks fared worse under the Obama administration than in previous years. The Wall Street Journal’s Jason L. Riley confirms:
When the president assumed office, unemployment was 12.7% for blacks and 7.1% for whites. Today it is 14.3% for blacks and 7% for whites, which means that the black-white employment gap has not merely persisted under Mr. Obama but widened.
American Thinker’s Chad Stafko adds:
[A report from the liberal Center for American Progress], released in April, shows more dismal economic conditions in the African-American community. It found that from 2009 through 2011, black minimum wage workers swelled 16.6%, while whites had only 5.2% more minimum wage workers. Not only, then, has there been a disproportionate increase in the number of African-Americans who are in the unemployment line, but there is also a greater number of blacks working for minimum wage. This surely wasn’t the change African-Americans were looking for in Obama.
These results shouldn’t surprise anyone. After all, the kind of “change” which the president and his ideological ilk continue to propose ignores the source of value, and thus the source of wealth and prosperity.
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Everyone in the blogosphere needs to buy an AP style book and memorize the thing. Style errors do detract from credibility. A site like this should be running things through a competent copy editor, also. If you intend to replace the LSM media, you’re going to have to do some of the things they do that actually make sense.
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oh, gosh. I wanted you to fix it and then delete my blue-penciling.
It’s a great article.
Fascinating, thoughtful, new.
Matches my experience in a mixed, lower-income neighborhood. Black men are conservative, involved dads, here. Even if they are illiterate, unemployed, out of jail—they walk the kids to school, watch over them at the park, fuss over them if they disrespect their teachers, coach them in the informal football game that’s been going on for years.
My husband worked for a bank. His first biggest clients were black men who owned businesses. They had gotten tired of being patronized. The stories of their every-day lives….being treated like no-counts.
Um, for the folks who don’t know where black people are? The military. The backbone of the Army is southern men-black and white. Maryland black Catholics are nearly legacy jobs in the Officer Corps. A family friend paid for Princeton in ROTC, forced in by his father. I think he’s having a good life.
And in Catholic churches, at least in Louisiana. In Lutheran churches in the Midwest. In Pentecostal churches, in the south.
Obama is a larval parasite on black preachers’ congregations, more or less. A user, a poseur, and a shameful waste of a fake passport.
I have a black friend who believes that black men are realizing Democrats really only care about black women.
He’s right.
You could expand that same comment to apply to ALL women.
Except, ironically enough, Islamic women.
When in Brooklyn during the gas shortage I was in a gas line for 7 hours with no luck. I overheard Haitian radio talking about how great the election was and women were calling in about how dare Romney run for election just to thwart the will of the people and waste time and money. Black men were walking by and they were saying the vote had to been take from the woman. That the woman is ruining this country.
Men do not seem to care for large organizations, institutions and committees the way women do and we are seeing a divide in what people want to have ordinary everyday life be like. I am sure Obamacare is more attractive to women than to men. At least that is my observation.
This conservative woman would glady give back the vote if it meant that sanity would return to our polity.
This raises the interesting question of what sort of electorate would be most likely to preserve our constitution and our prosperity. I contend that the following qualifications – which would exclude both you and me – would give the best results. Male, head of household, never divorced, not employed in the public sector, at least one child, not receiving a government check of any kind, military service, pays both federal income tax and local property taxes, homeowner.
Isn’t it ironic how the suffragettes were generally conservatives?
Charles Williams, I would add one other qualification for voting, white.
You bet I’d surrender my right to vote, if only there were a way to keep OBOZO and his ilk from running. As for now, I will keep my vote sacred my power dry and my gun loaded.
Go ahead and shoot me now but I have a real hard time knowing that the low informational voter and freeloader has a vote that counts as much as mine.
@Mike
“Charles Williams, I would add one other qualification for voting, white.”
Moby say what?
Values are not skin deep. The conservative message is appealing to all races.
I don’t think we have to be quite so draconian.
The biggest change was when they lowered voting age to 18. How about the following changes:
1. Only US citizens can vote, and status will be checked when issuing ballots.
2. No absentee voting except for US military members. If you want to vote, show up at the polling place.
3. Must be 21 or older to vote unless you are a member of the military.
4. Must pay taxes(or be a home-owner.)
Alternatively, there’s Heinlein’s idea – either 1 year of military service or 2 years in non-military service to vote (in other words, you earn the right to vote by showing you care enough about your country to serve.)
I hate the idea of discriminating on the basis of gender, race, etc. I believe all individuals should be equal before the law (though there are real differences – there will always be more male physics geeks and firemen, women nurses, black basketball stars and so on). However, I am perfectly fine with raising the bar on everyone.
BTW, many Western states gave women the right to vote long before the federal government did. Why? Western women were essential in ways Eastern women were not, on the frontier. Historically, in England, in the 1600s, etc., women sometimes voted at the local level – for example, if a male guild member died, his widow took his voting status.
@Wodun – I am seeing this more often around the blogosphere. I suspect people like “Mike” are false flag operatives attempting to discredit conservative positions as the old racial barriers are breaking down, and it appears to me that there are fewer and fewer of your old line white supremacists running around these days. Moreover, the missives tend to be a tad too grammatically polished.
Yes I agree completely. Unfortunately the Republican party is hardly better.
He doesn’t care about us married,employed white women,either,only about taking our wages away. My own health insurance premiums have nearly QUADRUPLED since he took office,I now have deductibles of HUNDREDS of dollars that used to be not even there,and a NEW “Medicare” tax was added after he took office.My health insurance premiums keep rising, and like all other working Americans depending on cars and buses to get to work,I pay more and more for gas. Obama is plainly an enemy to the working class,who has lots of billionaire FRIENDS,and if he is not impeached over Benghazi,Fast and Furious, or one or another of his uncountable violations of and rants against the Constitution, I fear for my country.
And by that, I think you mean islamic women in the mideast.
If black men feel rejected, they have to understand they so many of them from certain economic backgrounds bring so little to the table. Its whining at best. Upwardly mobile black men do not fall into this category. There are certain commonalities, but they are superficial at best. Stay in school, get an education, keep it in your pants and stop worrying about keeping up with the joneses. Rap and Sports are not the only options for black men. It’s sickening that this is prevalent in the community. Churches have failed the black community since the 60s. They have failed to modernize their message.
Obama doesn’t care about black women – he wants to abort their babies.
I wonder if more and more young black men are slowly realizing that the major social programs that are bankrupting the country are actually a giant wealth transfer from Men to Women with wealth being transferred from black men to white women in particular?
let me see, nearly (that means less than) 20% of black males under 30 voted for romney. that means over 80% didn’t vote for romney. really doesn’t sound like a repudiation to me. less than 20% v 7% black population overall. you would need a really big sample size for that to mean anything. i bet you could find a difference between right and left handed black males under 30 also. but it wouldn’t mena much.
oops-”mean much”
Actually, that’s a pretty impressive statistic. Are you innumerate? If you pull out young males from the total number, you’d have less than 7% for everyone else. So if “almost 20%” is 18%, and 6% of “all other blacks” voted for Romney, that means that young black males were three times as likely to vote for Romney as other blacks. Given that young people are less likely to vote than older people, it might not affect the 7% much of course.
show me the sample size and i might agree that it is impressive. however, losing 82-18 isn’t really a whole bunch better than 93-7.
Actually, losing 82 – 18 is significantly better than losing 93 – 7.
18 becomes 30 very quickly. maybe there is reason to hope.
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I never claimed this statistic was indicative of a “repudiation.” But it does mean something. Clearly, something happened with this segment of the vote between 2008 and 2012. Is that not worth some investigation? I think so.
and i didn’t say it wasn’t worthy of investigation. the first thing i would investigate is the polling method. starting with sample size, proceeding to p value or standard deviation or whatever margin of error measurement you prefer. until i see that i question the statement that “clearly something happened…”
something MAY have happened and deserves investigation.
So true. It may come down to an approachability factor (thug-appearance factor, or willingness to participate in a poll) as experienced by exit poll personel whether in-person or over the phone, somewhat similar to the Bush skew in Hispanic exit polling in 2004, which was largely tied to the participants’ ability/willingness to communicate in English. The overall pool of BMU-30 is also not a dynamically growing number due to early death and incarceration, the latter of which reduces (in theory) the overall number of eligible voters thus a small steady gain which we saw across the board with other groups gets amplified. Black women are voting more for Michelle and the kids.
The rise between 2008 and 2012 probably correlates to some degree about concerns about illegal immigration (McCain was seen as not only potentially anti-black, but also overtly pro-hispanic), but I am willing to throw this out also – a large % of the black male under 30 cohort is also active and aspirant military. Romney seemed to be a candidate who not only would hold the line but also increase defense spending.
I’m sure such details are readily available at Pew Research. If you’d like to pour through that data and provide further insight, it would be most welcome. I would be very surprised to learn that Pew’s methodology was so sloppy that their margin of error was near 14%.
I think you are right … if that PEW polling is accurate. Problem is with such a small subset of the population, it’s hard to be very accurate. Young black men are only about 1% or so of the American population. What do Gallup and Ras have to say if anything?
Did those who turned against Obama do so because they felt he went too far or that he didn’t go far enough? That’s the story I hear too often in MSM – that former supporters are turning against Obama because he is now to the right of where they stand, politically. They don’t think he’s doing too much. They think he’s not doing enough for them.
Walter, that is a very interesting observation.
One can’t help but notice that the responses all address why some black men are walking away from dems … with little or no discussion detailing where they should walk to and why.
From a motivation standpoint, are they moving to the GOP or simply away from the dems? If the latter is true, does the GOP have a targeted plan to insure continuing and even increasing these defections?
Is current GOP messaging speaking to said demographic in a way that facilitates further movement?
It is significant but in perspective.
20% of black males under 30 but the article doesn’t put that number in the context of the entire black population.
Still, it is significant just like 10% of the vote coming from Latinos.
Have you looked at total non-Obama votes? (My (half) black nephew posted a lot about Gary Johnson on Facebook so I’m guessing he voted Libertarian.)
must be a bunch of “cornball brothers”
Perhaps they are well aware of where Julia, Sandra, Lena, and Cecile will lead us.
Regardless of skin color, the overwhelming majority of people are born rather biologically equal and then they immediately become and grow up a ‘product’ of their environomental variables. The worst environmental variables preventing the majority of blacks from advancing in society comes from within the black societal structure itself.
Every generation grows up learning first and foremost that they are ‘victims’ of a majority white society who views and used them as simple slaves. This is reenforced by the Black Liberation theology, the NAACP, many HBCUs and countless black special interest organizations. Then of course the whole issue is politicized bringing even more self defeating motives retarding progression into the main or majority society, mainly becoming political and social pawns by their own special interest groups. This of course, creates a division between them and us and is perpetuated by their own internal leaderships influences.
Ironically, the political party with the most historical evidence of being unfriendly to the cause of black liberation and equality has been the Democrat Party — the party of ‘choice’ by most blacks. The democrat party has learned how to ‘manipulate’ the black ‘Western’ population of blacks for a couple of political motives.
Foregoing a long dissertain. Until such time as the black population can see fit to liberate themselves from the self defeating special interests from within and free themselves from continuing to cloak themselves as social and political victims due great financial repatriation, their liberation and evolutionary progress into the majority society will be a long slow process into the future.
The GOP hasn’t any clue how to message liberation and equality from a social and political machine thats held blacks hostage for so many decades.
As a side note. Native Americans and poorer white people have and continue to be manipulated in much the same ways by the social and political machines of the Democrat Party.
The real question has nothing to do with how one is born or under what circumstances. The issue is will we be a society that incentivizes hard work and achievement? Will we be a society that rewards people for doing their best? Or will we be a society where people with handicaps (minor or major) are being put on disability? I see way too many people these days with CPOD and a pack of cigarettes and on medicaid and disability (food stamps, etc.)
The safety net is a life style choice for way to many people.
How much damage has been done by the creation of majority minority congressional districts? The black population could be a swing vote in many places, forcing both parties to appeal to all sides. Instead, we have a latter-day segregation, which has the effect of limiting the influence blacks could have in many elections. How many people who complain about political gerrymandering would ever speak out against racial gerrymandering?
I used to do a bit of public speaking at corporate events and elsewhere (when I was much younger and my brain was better connected to my oral communication apparatus) concerning the systematic and systemic affects of transitioning to a consolidated and centralized population and economy. Among the many things affected has been the destruction of the balance in the local, states and national electorial system. Today, only a few states and essentially a few districts within those states, can determine an election outcome, especially at the state and national levels. I don’t think our founders entertained anything such as a consolidated and centralized population. The black population has, like all other ethnicities become a major part of the consolidation and centralization transition.
The founding fathers left some pretty seriously disparaging remarks about European city dwellers and their stinky attitudes, as they called themselves country gentry. The stated disparagment was extended to American city dwellers becoming like the Europeans complete with stinky gimmi socialist attitudes.
Cities are female by design, ask ANY city women why she would NOT live in the country and 90% of the answers are this:access to shopping. Yeah, REAL important stuff there.
American city men are testosterone challenged these days for some reason, possibly environmental (aspertame anyone?) and their low self esteam, obese bitchy low life females dominate them. Metros anyone?
Cities breed socialism, cities stuffed with welfare grubbing females breed filth, welfare, crime, ignorence, violence.
Females who prefer the city life and who have children are just selfish, shopping more important then a safe and sane living environment.
“Cities breed socialism, cities stuffed with welfare grubbing females breed filth, welfare, crime, ignorence, violence.”
Yes indeed! I don’t tend to draw any specific exclusions between genders or socio-economic status, they are what I refer to as the cancer centers of American. They have destroyed the very fabric of American greatness.
This absolutely laughable. How can you honestly think Ann Coulter is a reliable source for anything about the black male. It is obvious you think black men are stupid and deserve to be in jail but their is no real evidence they would support Romney over Obama. Reagan was not as abhorant to blacks as Romney is. Reagan actually helped the black middle class far more than Romney would.
Read more carefully. The statistic comes from Pew Research and was merely cited by Coulter. You may also want to take note of the pic in the byline before accusing me of thinking black men are stupid, or review my aggressive defense of liberty and individual rights before asserting out of nowhere that I want blacks placed in jail for being black. Sloppy comments like yours do nothing for whatever it is you’re attempting to stand for.
Your attempt to use Pew do nothing to mask your true opinions as research is subjective and flawed as you no doubt remember from election night.
Hriver, you lame-ass troll, you’re not even trying. Strawman after strawman, do you even know how to make a cogent argument? ALL THAT WAS STATED WAS THAT YOUNG BLACK MALES VOTED FOR THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE IN GREATER NUMBERS THAN IS USUAL. Try reading, you thick-skulled mental midget.
Grow up you NOB!
Grow up, you NOB!
Grow up! you Nob. Hudson can defend his own comments.
The report only indicates a decline in the number. It does not indicate it swung to Romney. Save you juvenile name calling on the playground assuming you achieved your GED.
How lovely for you to have developed the ability to discern “true opinions” without any evidence whatsoever. You should take that show on the road.
7. Zeke, You NAILED it! All the black males I am acquainted with have left the Democrat Plantation. They are also fed up with the domineering, high maintenence black females.
I am beginning to believe the downward spiral of America began when women got the vote! Think about their first crusade and how well it worked out, Prohibition. Then came the Abortion Crusade. Now we have the Anti Second Ammendment Crusade.
**marzouq** Many years ago I married into a family of educators from the deep South. My own family had a number of educators who started and taught at indian schools prior too and after the Cherokee Run. I have had a long life of interest in the native american and african slave history, their social and political matriculation. We have been lifelong supporters of several of the Souths oldest HBCU’s and our children were all educated at them for their undergraduate work.
Ironically, it was white churches and white wealthy elites who founded the oldest HBCU’s. That said, I’ve observed over the many decades that native americans and african americans have always had the same kinds of divisional social and intellectual structure as white americans — just not as proportional.
I’ve also made observations of the pre and post ‘minority’ educational legislations from the 60s. That was a time of grave mistakes in the education sphere. White institutions were mandated to lower their admissions standards which led to lowering the academic standards in white institutions and sadly followed into the great black insstutitions.
Long story made short so I don’t ramble on forever. Todays african americans are never taught of the great accomplishments of their own history in the U.S. Prior to the Great New Society of the 60′s black institutions graduated so many people who made so many great attributions to medicine, engineering and other science displines not to mention so many literary greats.
Sadly, today, the espoused greats and role models are limited to political opportunists of the MLK era, (the Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton ilk), black panthers, the nation of Islam ilk, religious black liberation leaders, etc., who use their citizens for personal gain just as the black slave ‘brokers’ of Africa so long ago. They remain today, oppressed from within.
I should probably stop before delving into the black female gender issues.
Thanks for your comments!
I recently read ” Up From Slavery”,The sutobiography of George Washington Carver on my Amazon Kindle. It was inspiring,and I thought it was startling how much of it (written over a century ago) has relevance for blacks in America today. He founded the Tuskeegee Institute, and before that, other schools for black children in the South. He complained several times in the book that black young people of both sexes,now free from slavery,thought it beneath them to do ANY physical work, and while they would study hard and get good grades, their rooms or apartments were messy,and they did sloppy,hurried work when assigned to work in the school kitchen, the kitchen garden or with the cows and chickens whose milk and eggs formed part of their diet at the boarding school. He encouraged them to develop a work ethic,because they could otherwise NEVER succeed as free people,hard work was then the way to get ahead for EVERYONE in America.While blacks in America as a group did achieve some financial and familial success before the 1930s and the Depression,it’s as if the old idea of “work is beneath me, I am FREE” returned after that, the “I’m not a slave, you can’t MAKE me work” attitude.It’s been over 150 YEARS since slavery ended,NOBODY is now alive who owned or traded in slaves. It’s HISTORY,and time to move on,get a job, maybe then take up the fight against ISLAMIC slavery, which is still going on in the world, and stop being racist and voting ONLY for people whose skin color matches yours, never mind their background or suitability for the office.Furthermore, rejoice, for here in America, even “poverty stricken” blacks are infinitely better off, every way there is (except for intact families) than their distant relatives in Africa are.
“Up From Slavery” was written by Booker T. Washington, founder of the Tuskeegee Institute. George Washington Carver was a member of the T.I. and did a lot of his research there.
As a matter of intresting reading, I would suggest that you go HBCU by HBCU and read of their history and of individual successes from their schools. Maybe start with the first, the Institute for Colored Youth in Philadelphia, in 1837 and work your way forward. Just as a tease, the next time you stop at a traffic light, consider two things: the impact it has on societies around the world and secondly it was the product of a black american.
Not only in America, but in general. Women have perpetuated the downfall of humanity since the beginning of time.
From the Pew Research Center, dated November 26, 2012 — last paragraph under the “Youth Vote in Battleground States” section:
“Surprisingly, Obama’s vote also declined among young black men, by 14 points, while holding steady among young black women.”
Their graphic breakdown for 18-29 year-old black males is:
2008 Obama vs McCain 94% to 6%
2012 Obama vs Romney 80% to 19%
What the Pew results say to me is that a real Conservative, who knows how to run a better campaign than Romney ran, and how to better communicate what he or she believes, and is not ashamed or embarrassed to say what they believe has a chance to draw some of the Black Male vote away from the Democrats & the Liberals.
How much?
Enough to defeat the Democrats and Liberals. Maybe even soundly defeat them.
Landslides are composed of individual grains of soil.
For that to succeed, we must first do something about THIS.
20% of black male voters under 30 years old are more intelligent than 70% of jewish voters, and 93% of black voters.
with rare exceptions, american blacks are not just stupid and racist, but also slaves in their own minds
they take after their savior barack hussein obama who bows down in submission to islam slave traders
american blacks may well be stupid, blindly racist, and have a slave mentality, as their voting numbers show, but, the numbers of white voters for obama also clearly show that they’re not all that very bright in the head either.
let’s be thankful that the numbers ultimately add up to this: half of us voters ain’t stupid, etc.
Probably not. For the great majority of blacks, ‘black’ trumps everything, including morality and reason.
Think the OJ Simpson jury.
Several black Philly wards went 100 percent for Obama. If what you say is even half right, that’s a strong indication that there was massive vote fraud this election.
let’s also not forget that over 100% of many districts voter rolls “voted”
Tell us something we don’t know.
Living in St. Cloud, and having met Doc Severson a couple of times, it’s great as an idea and getting some national attention. Part of the problem is left wing groups have monopolized their status as special interest lobbyists, and can be the only voices legislators listen to.
Now is the time to end affirmative action in college admissions. When I see a doctor I look at the diplomas. I want to know that doc got that degree because of their skills and efforts – regardless of race. The best of the best where the ones admitted – regardless of race.
I am 100% sure that if all people had to compete as the only option we would have the same number of minority doctors, but who cares, we need the cream to rise to the top regardless of skin color.
There is no longer discrimination in education.
Second, Romney blew it by not making a larger point of school choice. That was one of many mistakes but one that really pissed me off.
The gun control efforts are largely a racist attempt by Democrats to take guns away from blacks, the very people who have the greatest need for self defense.
The wise FDR-Fredrick Douglas Republicans-understand that freedom and economic prosperity are at stake.
Instead of wasting money on funding losers-ie beltway political consultants aka campaign rip-off artists-GOP Big Donors should fund grassroots groups such as FDR-Fredrick Douglas Republicans-who are on the ground and in the neighborhoods performing the vital task of community outreach.
I guess this is trying to find the proverbial rainbow in the hurricane…forget it. The only thing that will bring sanity to this country is a national calamity that even Pravda America can’t defend or apologize, or so outrages the sizable minority that they quit trying to rationalize and reason with irrational and amoral and decide to act – violently, if necessary. Perhaps egregious infringement of the 2nd Amendment will do the trick, because the sizable minority certainly wasn’t outraged enough about the 1st Amendment infringement during Obama’s first term to offer much more than a whimper. Didn’t the Catholic vote about break even?
And we think this country will come to some reasonable conclusions about right and right sometime soon? ** GUFFAW **
When government is laid bare that even the dimwitted and immoral can understand its ineptness and the hopelessness that follows, then things might begin to change. Not until then as things only grow worse.
And if we simply tread water as the Fed keeps pumping and we keep spending, in 2016 with the useful idiots Hillary or Michelle lined up to follow His Failure, 97% of black males will be right back to pulling the ‘D’ ticket, as will 80% of the Jews, as will 75% of the Latinos.
“And if we simply tread water as the Fed keeps pumping and we keep spending, in 2016 with the useful idiots Hillary or Michelle lined up to follow His Failure, 97% of black males will be right back to pulling the ‘D’ ticket, as will 80% of the Jews, as will 75% of the Latinos.”
They won’t make it past their established Fatigue.
The go-to guy in 2016 would likely be Cory Booker. All of the desired superficial Magic with little of the attitude, simmering anti-American resentment, but also sufficiently pro-business. What the Dems lose from the fringe moveon/grad school/professional intellectual coalitions they’ll regain in lost blue-collars and moderate indies. And, uh, young, truly Urban black males.
By then he’ll have had two years executive experience, but not enough of a record to have accumulated negative campaign baggage.
Honestly, I’d trade Obama for Booker straight up right now, and even throw in another term in 2016 to get it.
Had he done a 180 degree-turn following the MS-13 murders in 2007 as in took Newark off the sanctuary city list, he would be a shoo-in.
20% is a start… at least someone at the table is not buying it.
2 million extra black votes for republicans would be big in a close election.
Black women will be tough to convert. An astounding percent of single women of all races vote Democrat because they know Democrats support the welfare state. Sadly many, many black women never marry.
If we can get single conservative guys to ask a black lady out to dinner and a movie, maybe nature will take it’s course and we can convert them.
You don’t understand black culture, do you?
Now, THIS, is funny.
No, just recruit the conservative non-black guys with big noses, big ears, and size 13 and above shoes for that mission.
“No. “Nearly 20 percent of black males under 30 voted for Romney, more than three times what McCain got.” That according to Ann Coulter, who gets her information from Pew Research.”
This doesn’t exactly match up very well with the actual vote tally from some groups of Black precincts where Obama got thousands of votes to zero for Romney. Of course there is one possible explanation for that – Romney didn’t get zero votes there.
If America does fall, blacks will be hit the hardest. Because unlike Asians or Latinos, they have nowhere else to go. They’re truly one of the original Americans.
There’s no tension between the different racial groups (not in a way that’s truly dangerous, at least), but it seems that blacks and the other groups are not as compatible. If you were an Asian restaurant owner, would you hire a Latino worker who has oodles of experience working in their business, or some random black dude who worked at Denny’s?
Latinos and Asian are relevant for more than their voting powers. They carved out a nice little niche in the US. They have their own sub culture, tv networks and a place in the economy. The closest I ever came to a genuine “black” experience was eating soul food on a few occasion and taking black lit classes in college. I see a lot of blacks working retail, but they seem to be near invisible elsewhere.
There is a relevant narrative in this column, an opening for the next election. As for this past election, Obama wins, democrats win and historically, that means blacks lose and Hispanics too but not as much-yet. And with their victory, in our down economy, the price of a vote, even a young male black vote, cheapens.
This is a delusional look at statistics. I did not hear one peep from any black people in the media or that I know to condemn the comments made about Robert Griffin III, Redskins QB, referring to him as a cornball brother and that he is not down for the cause. Black people are the most racist people in America and are allowed to be racist because white people are to afraid to call them out for it. As a white male, I’ve had it beaten into my head from an early age what constitutes racism and the vast majority of racism I see or hear comes from blacks. A lot of it is latent but the very obvious displays are never condemned by other blacks. The ESPN commentator who made that remark was suspended but where was Jason Whitlock, Charles Barkley, or any other black media figure to call him out? Again, you are deluding yourself blacks are raised and nurtured as racists in America. The number one reason black people voted for Barrack Obama is because he is black. That says it all.
This is the season for dreaming, fantasy and wishful thinking.
Even if young blacks are not out chanting “um, um, um, Barack Obama” over 96% of the young blacks now living will ever, in you wildest wet dream fantasy, vote for any GOP’er if were running again. Even Michele. Even Jesse. Even Al S.
Have a Merry Christmas and we’ll discuss this when you get back to Earth in January.
“Nearly 20 percent of black males under 30 voted for Romney, more than three times what McCain got.”
You’re kidding me, right? This is a joke, correct? You’re telling me that when a presidential candidate LOSES 80% of the black vote, that’s a good thing? I was never a rocket scientist in school, but something tells me I would rather have the 80% than the 20%. And that’s only young males. Obama still got something like 90% of the overall black vote, so we’re not talking really big numbers of blacks coming over to the Republican party. If this is progress, stay home.
Really, blacks in this country have become so “institutionalized” by the Democratic Party that it’s pointless even campaigning to get their vote if you’re a white Republican. You really want an articulate African-American spokesman for the Republican party? Get Allen West to either run for higher office or, at the very least, have him give a speech to the lemmings at the NAACP conferences. HE will tell them why they need to vote Republican. Why? Because he’s one of the few people in the Republican party who can accurately and simply articulate a reason WHY blacks should vote for the Republican Party.
The Democratic party wants to keep blacks on a virtual government plantation, making them dependent on the government for just about everything, from education to housing to food stamps, to health insurance. Everything. But the problem is, what the government gives you for voting Democratic, it can certainly take AWAY from you whenever it wants to. And it will, especially when we go totally broke by 2016.
And what happens to a social-welfare state that runs out of money? Just look at Greece and Spain for your answer to that question, and it never turns out well. Massive unemployment, massive civil unrest, massive taxes, and no national defense. So if you are black and want to continue going down this merry road of dependency on the government for just about everything, knock yourself out. But it’s not going to last much longer. And when we finally do run out of money, what will you do? Oh, that’s right, just blame it on either Bush or “the rich.” After all, it’s what Obama and the Democrats always TELL YOU to do.
Even if the great Allan West became President, he would not get the black vote because he is a Republican. Herman Cain was tarred and feathered for that very reason. Black conservatives are ‘traitors’, we all know that.
What will the dems do when they believe they have the vote rigging sewn up?
When they believe they dont need their minority votes anymore.
The dems look at the federal tax reciepts as THEIR PERSONAL MONEY. Once they dont need blacks to stay in power they will stab them in the back. They will look at the money spent (THEIR MONEY in thier minds BTW) buying black votes (welfare, food stamps, hundreds of programs for blacks only, most whites are clueless to their existance)and they will want that money spent on themselves, not on the now useless to them black population. one example is the 2013 federal tax earned income child credit getting axed in half. Bet the black community is just waking up to THAT one. Also barak is planning on throwing them under the bus on this gun ban. He will get his proxies to start a race war in an eastern city already primed for it, then when the inner city blacks get out of hand, he will get the beleagered white population of the state to beg for military intervention. After all who could be against military intervention against rioting savages right?
Once the MILITARY is used to going up against black Americans, it’s one step to going up against ALL Americans.
Mr. Hudson, while I appreciate your optimism I do believe this percentage may be skewed.
Look at the flack actress Stacey Dash received from the Black community for her choosing Romney. Whereas Ms. Dash isn’t an A-list actress (She’s not a movie but a sitcom star) and the arrows flung at her was deplorable.
Let’s not forget the ‘progressive’ news providers.
Remember this: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/04/16/nbc_reporter_to_black_man_at_tea_party_have_you_ever_felt_uncomfortable.html
Mr, Hudson, the Black community has ~ 3/4′s of children’s births being to that of single Black women. Whereas the MANY setbacks that coincide with this frighteningly high statistic have wave-like ramifications.
Though the Illiberal party and the usurping press will continue using the failed though sadly widely incorporated and ‘successful’ Illiberal modus operandi – empathy and delusions of ‘entitlement’.
In the 1970′s, the same statistic was ~40%. Black leaders at the time called the percentage, ‘An epidemic’. Today, that percentage nearly doubled and is often called, ‘The urban experience’
Black boys, men and seniors alike don’t and will not accept the race pimps and the Illiberal Party have set them up for disaster. For a guaranteed vote is a guaranteed vote.
Remind me again the percentage of Blacks who voted for Obama.
Who writes this nonsense?
A total stranger, a young, moronic black man, came up to me on the street in Boston and yelled at me “ROMNEY IS THE DEVIL” while he and his equally moronic buddies giggled like school boys. When I dared talk back to him, he of course hurled the old standby racist accusation at me. All the while the black female cop standing at the corner looked on and did nothing. Blacks voted for Obama because he is half-black. Not once, but twice. They would vote for him again even if black unemployment was 99%.
Absolutely right. I don’t care what stats or studies the writer quotes he’s living in a delusional dreamland. Its rubbish to say 20% of blacks of any age group voted against Obama. In fact, blacks redoubled efforts to re-elect Obama for two reasons. 1) Because he’s black. 2) Because of the non-stop racist anti-Obama diatribes by whites. I have read hundreds, maybe thousands of blogs under news sites attacking Obama for flash mobs, for Treyvon Martin, for black crime, and most recently his televised comments on Sandy Hook during Sunday Night Football on 12/16. Terms like “apes”, “monkeys”, and the frequent use of the N-word peppers these landscapes.
The votes for Obama have NOTHING to do with unemployment, poverty, the fall of the dollar, etc. The votes FOR him for many wrong reasons, but also in defense of him against the pool of overt racism that has shown its head the past four year.
A few loudmouths living on the internet do not make a significant phenomenon.
Newsflash: Obama’s not black.
Thank you, Mr. Hudson, for these timely and critical reflections!
I served for nearly 9 years as pastor of a Presbyterian Church in Anoka County, Minnesota. Of course, Anoka County is the most conservative large population county in the Minneapolis-St. Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI MSA.
For about the last 6 years of my service there, we had a huge influx of immigrants from West Africa–primarily Cameroon. Many Cameroonian families joined our congregation and, to this day, some serve on my former congregation’s governing board, The Session. The vast majority of these Christian sisters and brothers were rock-solid conservatives on all the major moral issues of the day.
I do not pretend to know how those among them who are now US citizens cast their ballots in the just concluded Presidential election. I am fairly certain, however, that they were nearly unanimous in votiing for traditional marriage.
I applaud the grassroots movement of Minority Liberty Alliance. I believe this is the key to future victories for Republicans regionally and nationally. It will not be easy work, nor swift work; but I firmly believe it will bear fruit one day–if not 2014 or 2016, then 2018 or 2020. In my view, these recent immigrants turned citizens will help tip the scales back to sane, sensible governance in our states and in our nation.
Black immigrants (and their children) are reported in the statistics to be high achievers. Get more Camaroonies if you can.
See The Negro Family: The Case For National Action (the 1965 Moynihan Report), written by] Daniel Patrick Moynihan on the deterioration of the Negro family and the implications for the future. Children need fathers as well as mothers, so the high rate of single mothers now among negroes is a bad indication of the future. Alas, welfare has much to do with the breakdown of families, since welfare payments are usually not given to intact families with working fathers.
This may be controversial to some but I am going to add in something that many people take for granted; the effort of Christians to Tell the World about Jesus and lead many souls to salvation have also brought in many young black men to consider conservative values. My guess, and I am no scholar, is that some of our brothers and sisters have gained a new perspective about our President and his agenda. I know I have seen many lives changed in positive and profound ways by the Lord. But you won’t hear it from the media. To the media Jesus is on the way out and climate change is our new god.
I understand what you’re saying, but I’m not sure you’re right.
Whenever political pundits talk about Christians they seem to think that Christians automatically vote Republican.
About a block away from my home is a nice big church with an all-black congregation (there might be whites too, but I’ve never seen any). They all voted for Obama (once again, this is not scientific, it’s based on observation only).
Walter, you are a breath of fresh air in the world of black men. Thank you for having the courage to speak truth and pursue truth. I eagerly look forward to your contributions to the online dialogue.
Perhaps a contributing factor is that Black Males are starting to understand the impact of the deliberate disempowerment of men by the Left, and how that has negative impacts on them, especially. The restructuring of society to devalue and sideline men, to make them superfluous to the family, by replacing them with government handouts, whilst they still pay, if they have a job, via taxation.
I also think that devout Christian Black Americans were disturbed by the Obama Administration and the Democrat parties dropping of God from the platform and assault on religious freedom.
All that being said. There isnt going to be a mass conversion, because Black Americans see the Federal Government as a protector of their rights on the one hand, and see the massive Welfare State benefits as Reparations for Slavery and Jim Crow. Socialism is Reparations. They also see themselves as disempowered outsiders, trying to get something from the system, The Man, White Supremacist Society. They arent concerned about the solvency and sustainability of that system. It isnt their system, in their eyes. If it collapses, because they killed the goose that layed the golden egg, so much the better, they can then rebuild their system, and thus be invested in it, instead of just being hostile rent seekers.
“… they can then rebuild their system….”
Into what, pray tell?
My thought as well: “oh great, welcome to Liberia…….”
OBAMA, A BLACK “BROTHER”?
The Right to ‘penetrate nation-states’ borders’ is utterly horrifying. The Responsibility to Protect doctrine endangers every innocent on earth. A decent, innocent people can and are, easily targeted by power-hungry ruthless elites. This is what occurred in Libya.
US/NATO waged war for months for Al-Qaeda and other Muslim terrorists against Gaddafi and Libya. Gaddafi was fighting AGAINST Al Qaeda.
The US/NATO war empowered and enabled anti-Gaddafi Muslims to perpetrate satanic, horrifying atrocities and genocide of blacks. Blacks were safe under Gaddafi. So much for Obama being a black “brother”.
US/NATO did not lift a finger to help or rescue the terrified blacks. This is what the The Responsibility to Protect doctrine is in reality. A terrifying doctrine that targets innocents.
GOD HELP THE WORLD’S INNOCENTS!
Does this mean there are NO young black men in those precincts that voted 113% FOR Feckless Won?
Where did they go?
I’m 65 and there have been opportunities abound over the years for the blacks in this country to turn the corner and leave the Democrat plantation. Justice Clarence Thomas 30 years ago, nominated by the Republican President and railroaded mercilessly by the Democrats during the confirmation process. The history of the Republicans intervening on behalf of blacks in civil rights legislation during the 60′s. There is only one explanation. They’re stupid. They’re ignorant and they only have themselves to blame. Their parents, teachers, preachers and their miserable gangs. Sorry, if I offended, but the truth does offend the ignorant.
“They’re stupid.”
Certainly not all, but a good percentage. Misengenation has actually been good for them for obvious reasons.
To Escape: Not all Black Americans see the government as their safe haven or bank. Yeah, some do all they can to get all they want without working for it, but that goes for all races. Many Black Americans send their kids who can afford it to private schools, or try to use their situations to give their kids better by using racism just as a tool to enter their children in better schools. But many are very concerned about what is going on and all the LIES they are being told. Do you see the President in the pork-n-beans neighborhood recruiting votes? No, he sends his minions and goes for broke in the white neighborhoods of DC, Ohio, Virginia…you never see Al Sharpton or Jessie Jackson coming to rescue black children from gangs, but they will go half way accross the earth to save two men, albeit I think I was glad he did, but where are they? Come’on it dont take an einstein to figure this out.Black people are tired of being taken advantage of especially by their own color. Just used and abused. Black people care. Besides if you are a black person and you go complain to a black person who considers him/herself better than you, what do you think they are going to do about it? The same thing a any other person will do….ignore it.
I didnt say all Black Americans. The vast majority of them, have this mindset though, and it isnt going away anytime soon.
In a reply to #3, urbanleftbehind said
“I am willing to throw this out also – a large % of the black male under 30 cohort is also active and aspirant military.”
I suspect that’s it. Those votes wouldn’t show up in (103% of eligible voters went for Obama) Philly precincts. Many of them weren’t counted at all of course. But the military is annoyed about having to endure PC crap that threatens missions and men (“One man” jobs in the Navy are now “two person” jobs, gays in tents with straight guys cause tension, etc and soon we’ll have Catholic chaplains being forced to perform same-sex “marriages”). Ever since Al Gore (kept my husband’s vote from being counted) in 2000, there has been an assault on military members being able to vote and be counted.
It’s really hard to insist that black men are stupid in a world with all-black colleges that graduate doctors, dentists, researchers at Woods Hole, professors of hard subjects.
It’s really hard to insist that black men are stupid in a world with Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell, and their graduate students.
It’s, honestly, even really hard to insist that black men are stupid when they found a way to make a million dollars out of near nothing. Eric Jerome Dickey makes a fortune writing novels. He started by selling paperbacks out of the trunk of his car to black beauty parlors. He created a genre. Scott Turow, the head of the Author’s Guild, and perennial best-seller, tried starting that way. John Grisham, too. They couldn’t do that. They didn’t do that. They pay some crazy huge percentage of their profits to publishers, for the publisher to to what EJD did on his own.
I’d put in Detroit rappers. Their schools graduate illiterates- it’s run by illiterates. And yet these guys build businesses on writing, and doing spoken word performances. They’ve made livings off of the worst educations in the industrialized world. That’s crazy.
Motown- the guy put evening gowns on factory workers, and sold it as a vision.
Railroad equipment.
Oil fortunes. Some are as entertainingly crooked as Dallas.
For that matter, drugs. If they clean up, they still have major getting-business-done skills. I worked with a guy who bought “freakonomics” b/c his cousins were in it- he’d dealt with the dealers. He’d cleaned up, and he was crazy about hard-work and precision and respect. he could keep anyone in line.
I would think, at some point, black guys would figure out that Democrats want to put their sons in s blender before they are even born. And that they love their sons more than the sun and moon.
Are Young Black Men Rejecting Obama?
The smart ones are.
When, exacty, did Obama become “black?” He was raised in the white world of grandparents, educated there, and made freinds there. When he lived in NY and attended school there, he had ongoing relationships with white women. It wasn’t until he relocated to Chicago as a “neighborhood organizer” that he took on the role of a “blackman” without ever being integrated into the black culture. I am amazed that the black community adopted him so quickly as their own.
When his white grandmother was dying, he went alone to her bedside; oddly, his wife and children did not accompany him.
the way the chameleon con man acted white among whites, he acted black when among blacks
whoever didn’t and don’t fall for his bullshit are those who go by the content of one’s character
the smart folks who saw right through slick barry are about half of the american voting public
and as things all fall down around us during soetoro’s second term the other half will get wise
Obama’s ONLY real achievement: Declaring as Black. He is, in fact, a Professional Black. It is his only occupation, his only ability, his sole talent. Give credit where it’s due–the one trick pony has sure come a long way with his one trick.
Absolutely irrelevant unless this portends a mass change of attitude among black and hispanic voters.
Young blacks recognize the bs scam that Obama is pulling on everyone, including blacks. Also, Obama comes across as a girly-boy at best and a fag at worst, not exactly the tough man image that would impress the hoods from the hood.
But I do so enjoy his “ghetto bounce” he has mastered when he approaches his podium/teleprompter. He really plays the roll to the max! ha ha ha
comments like these just go to show how extreme you ingrates are.
What exactly should we ingrates be grateful for? A failing economy, escalating taxes, our international respect from other nations deteriorating, welfare spending over the top, please let me know where we fail to believe all is well.
Ridiculous. Blacks will vote for Obama no matter what he does. It does not mean many are satisfied, but they will vote, commit massive voting fraud, delude themselves to construe every criticism a racist attack, and do what is necessary to elect Obama. For the simple reason, for good or for ill, Obama is a historical figure and the black community is elevated by his status. They do not wish failure on him. They are rightfully proud of him. It is a shame Obama does not deserve the loyalty.
Massive voter fraud? Proof please.
And WhTF are YOU to demand WE educate your miserable treasonus @$$? How much does soros pay you drive by thread muddiers? By the click?
Black people THINK that Obama has elevated their status. I think there are many MANY people who never would have believed that “the Bell Curve” was anything other than racism back in 2007 who think very very differently now…..
“Are young black men rejecting Obama?” Seriously? How many “young black men” voted for the old white representative of the upper class that was running against President Obama?
What’s the matter, pjmedia, don’t like hearing the truth? It’s alright, we won the election despite your best efforts anyways.
When the time comes, and it will, for you to take off your rose-colored glasses and realize just how vulnerable you and your loved ones are to how this man is destroying the very essence of our lives, both black and white.
Not only is Obama a scam, he’s also a man hater. He, a mangina at heart, is no friend to men.
Larry Sinclair would beg to differ.
The American people in general aren’t stupid, however, they are very ignorant. Intelligence presumes the correct use of acquired knowledge. Knowledge assumes knowing facts, truths and principles. The pseudo-knowledge used by so many Americans to make their political decisions, in fact their life decisions, no matter how it is used, cannot produce intelligent decisions because only right knowledge used correctly produces intelligent choices.
Until the vast majority of the electorate are willing to work hard at sifting through all the noise to find more of the truth about what is actually happening in the world around them, they will continued to be enslaved by their own ignorance and the political leaders they elect and re-elect. They will continue to appear ‘stupid’.
The current momentum of our society certainly doesn’t bode well for our future. The willingness of “a free press” to sacrifice its role as an additional “check and balance” of the government in a free society, to fail in its role to accurately inform the populace, will most likely doom us all. We saw how fast the press in cahoots with the liberal machine turned the country from supporting the aims of the Tea Party to demonizing the Tea Party. The same speedy turn around could be made if the press were to honestly do its job and the future could look totally different very quickly. Alas, this will most assuredly not happen so only those prepared will survive the crash at the bottom of the political, fiscal, social, and educational cliff over which we have perhaps already reached the point of no return.
I’ll believe YBM are rejecting Obama when I see that they are rejecting Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and the whole gutter, excuse me, ghetto culture.
Restoring the Black Family will require taking down the feminazi establishment, and repealing all their anti-family Marriage 2.0 laws that were passed since the 1970′s. It’s going to be a tough fight. Hopefully more Black men will get the Red Pill and stand up to the harpies.
The thrust of your piece is right about young black men rejecting Obama.
However, I wouldn’t quote Ann Coulter about minorities. The Ann Coulter piece you referenced may be right about the black vote, but is incredibly ignorant about Hispanics. Here’s a blog I wrote debunking Ann Coulter’s bad statistics and myths about Hispanics: http://cafeconlecherepublicans.com/ann-coulter-and-her-libel-of-latino-family-values
I think the saddest thing is that when black men (and black women)DO succeed, they are called names like “Uncle Toms” and worse. This is particularly true when successful blacks are conservatives. That will never do in the left’s mind. The left want the black community to stay poor, dependent, uneducated so that they can continue to manipulate them. Sickening.
“The left want the black community to stay poor, dependent, uneducated so that they can continue to manipulate them. Sickening.”
What’s even more sickening is how most of these blacks don’t see this; neither do many whites. A recipe for perpetual disaster.