Mark Levin Is Right on Romney Tax Returns
Mark Levin is defending Mitt Romney’s refusal to release his tax returns, and he’s right for a couple of reasons. First, if Obama had been entirely transparent (read: college transcripts and Fast and Furious, to name two), then Romney should play by the same rules. But Obama’s murky academic past remains murky, and his administration’s lack of transparency has been astounding.
Second, if Romney releases his tax records, they will be descended upon by a pack of hyenas disguised as CPAs and a mischief of rats disguised as political consultants. The benign will be presented as malignant by liars. The cost of enabling liars is higher than the cost of the status quo.
Third, and perhaps most of all, Romney should resist release to prove he knows how to fight like his enemies do, not like his friends don’t. Savor this gem: “In all likelihood, he won’t be able to maintain a position that looks secretive and is a departure from campaign conventions.”
Really? Says who? The New York Times? The Chattering Class? Perhaps Peggy Noonan?
I am curious as to how far back Obama has released his tax returns. I heard the other day he claimed to have worked his way through school. Where did he work? What status did he use to file his returns from those jobs?
Of course for both Romney and Obama, the IRS generally just requires filers to keep records for 3 years. There are a lot of very good reasons to destroy those files after three years.
The only ”job” that he’s ever known to have had is ”community organizer”, which I doubt is considered a real job but if he made any money at it, I’d like to see the tax returns for that. More than likely, we’ll have a easier time finding his REAL birth certificate.
I dont like Obama voted against him in 2008 and will do so again but he was a law professor at the University of Chicago just before he ran for the Senate That is a real job and he graduated with honors from Columbia and Harvard Law. His birth certificate and academic records are the stuff of right wing idiocy and conservatives should not distract from the real issues his economic incompetence his neo fascist corruption and his incoherent foreign policy He will use drones to kill terrorists but sucks up to China and continiousily denies American exceptionalism when he talks to the rest of the world
No, Obama was NOT a ‘law professor’. He was a guest lecturer a few times, probably at the request of a friend going on vacation or something who just needed someone to keep the students occupied in his place for a class or two.
I agree with this. I was disappointed to see National Review falling into line with the Obama narrative. Releasing the returns will not stop Democrats from calling secretive or a tax evader and it will only give them more fodder for mis-characterizing Romney and his record. Conservatives need to stop accepting the liberal premise and jumping through hoops on command.
To say the national socialist attack machine is formulaic is an understatement. If Romney shows he gave tons to charity, they national socialists will say he was using it as a tax shelter. If he invested overseas, they claim he’s un-American and “shipped jobs”.
Therefore, the national socialists are to be ignored. However, turnabout is still fair-play and Romney should and must demand that captain McFlappyEars release his transcripts, his bank balances, his passport info, etc. The media will not help, of course because somehow they’ve been heavily co-opted by the socialists to move the nation in that direction, against the will of the people.
At the base of it, it just seems that there are so many angry, selfish, snide little people in positions of trust and authority now. Perhaps it’s a failing of our own system that lets people like that get in such places but like ticks, they bring about diseases and are very difficult (not impossible) to get rid of. But part of the remedy is to educate the young and teach them individual responsibility and accountability; Something our elected officials (I won’t say “leaders”) know nothing about.
Many are waiting for the pendulum to swing back to the right but the momentum for the left-swing is still playing out.
Yes. But these people are post-national socialists — there’s nothing nationalistic about them at all.
I agree and when Obama becomes totally transparent then maybe Romney should do the same. I also agree that the Dems are just looking for something else to slander Romney over. Why give it to them? I’d send them on a ”Snark hunt” and see how far they get!
I believe that’s “snipe hunt.”
so right, releasing don’t stop the vermin from going full bore.
Just think, they called Romney a Felon, with no proof and when called on the carpet stated no proof, but
still wouldn’t retract.
So let’s call obozo what his is a drug Felon. The use of cocaine and marijuana and sharing it with other, which could be distribution,
So we have an admitted felon, with no ideas of his own, who told us in 2008 that those with no ideas and no vision, all they can do is attack the other person.
It isn’t just the National Review. Scores of prominent republicans have also said Romney must release his tax returns (at least a decade worth). Why should Mitt Romney be held to a different standard than any other presidential candidate? Indeed, the standard was set by his very own father who released 12 years of returns when he ran for president. Why does Mitt Romney feel he is entitled to be treated differently than any other person who has run for President? Is it “only the little people release their returns?” Sooner or later we will have those returns, and strategically it would seem like it is better for it to be sooner rather than later.
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/07/17/530121/15-prominent-republicans-who-want-romney-to-release-more-tax-returns-right-now/
I was disappointed to see National Review falling into line with the Obama narrative.
I was disappointed, but not surprised. It’s all part of NR’s long march to the left.
I used to read NR in the eighties and nineties, and todays magazine bears no resemblance to what it used to be.
Where it gets interesting on Fast and Furious is that Obama keeps insisting that his administration did no wrong, that Bush is the guy who started the program and Holder the Hero is the one who put an end to the abomination. Fine! All the more reason for him to vindicate his glorious self by producing the documents.
Does Romney care about several hundred dead Mexicans? Does he care about two dead federal agents? Let’s see him use every tool at his disposal to bring those who conspired in these murders to justice
Normally I dismiss gimmicks, but not this time. You’re right, Mr. Adams, that the left makes up rules all the time. Hit ‘em with this.
Oh, and I forgot to say: Operation Fast and Furious is the Tuskegee syphilis experiment of the Obama administration. Sickening that we should think of bargaining for a little light on the subject, but there it is.
Obambi was DISBARRED by Illinois in 2002
Obambi failed all his College Courses
Obambi was at best a mediocre pupil at School
Obambi used an Indonesian Passport to go to Pakistan in 1981
Obambi received FOREIGN STUDENT funding in College.
Not true you say and I say OK PROVE it.
An open CHALLENGE to all the loyal Obamanation worshipers . All of those documents listed below are HIDDEN. So take the list of documents that he is HIDING and give us a point by point explanation why each one is being HIDDEN or alternatively show WHERE that information is AVAILABLE for scrutiny. Only when you have done that can you then throw out your wild accusations of conspiracy nut against anyone. The ones who ARE CONSPIRING are the ones who are HIDING the documents not those merely asking to see them and only a blind worshiper would have the reverse morality to see it any other way. So lets see what you are made of.
Oh and just in case you want to pretend you dont know what is missing here is a list .
Here apart from his Vault Birth Certificate are just some but my no means ALL of the OTHER documents and information the Obamanation is HIDING.
There is a lifetime of “missing” documentation — but it must a coincidence — it has to be a coincidence — just keep telling yourself, “it’s a coincidence.”
Obama/Dunham divorce — Released (by independent investigators)
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro adoption records — Not released
Punahou School records — Not released
Soetoro/Dunham divorce — Released (by independent investigators)
Soetero/Obama name change documentation – Not released
Selective Service Registration — Released — Probable counterfeit
Occidental College records — Not released and vigorously defended Passport records — Not released and official government passport files scrubbed clean by John O. Brennan — now Obama’s terrorism and intelligence czar
Just a coincidence???????????
Columbia College records — Not released
Columbia thesis — “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament” — Not released
Harvard College records — Not released
Harvard Law Review articles — None
Illinois Bar Records — Not released
Baptism certificate — None
Medical records — Not released (unless you count a one-pager from his personal physician saying Obama’s healthy)
Just a coincidence????????
Law practice client list — Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles — None
Annenberg Challenge Board Minutes — None
Illinois State Senate records — None
Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
Almost 50 years old and there’s no paper trail — coincidence, Would you hire someone with this curriculum vitae? The man is completely undocumented. You don’t know anything about Obama — operative word, KNOW. None of us really do because he and his life are undocumented — an impossible coincidence — and Obama fiercely defends the release of what documentation is available. Some of us believe that something isn’t on the level and that we are entitled as United States citizens to ask any damned politician who he is, what his politics are, what his agenda is, where he came from and who sent him.
Thanks for the information. I am going to send this out in a broadcast to my fellow right wing greedy/racist/bigoted/children, old people, women, poor hating friends. As a stalwart conservative steeped in right wing partisan hatred I’m NOT going to fact check your information as all good ‘useful’, better than you and I, progressives do on one of their partisan fact checking sites.
I’m just going to send it unresearched, because Prag, I beleive in you and it sounds right and it feels good too. Sorta warm and fuzzy and chilly up the leg all at the same time.
“Not true you say and I say OK PROVE it.”
You’re the one making all these claims, so you’re the one required to provide proof. That’s how that works. Using your logic I could say that Leprechauns exist. You could search the world over and over for a Leprechaun and come back empty handed. I could just turn around and say that Leprechauns exist but you just didn’t find them, which is what you are doing. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Otherwise, all you are doing is blowing hot recycled air.
“You’re the one making all these claims, so you’re the one required to provide proof.”
Right back at you. Until Obama and you have proof, verifiable proof, court room proof. It is all so much recycled hot air.
Prove it, or STFU and go away. Lying by implication is a coward’s way.
Oh and we have since found out that his much vaunted Oprah Winfrey promoted (ghost written?)Autobiography was a heap of steaming LIES too. This mans whole life has been a LIE from his FAKE BC to his FAKE life story.
Bill Ayers, an excellent writer wrore Obama’s book.
Sure Mark Levin is right if the failure of Obama to release his school records was an issue in the campaign, but it isn’t an issue (unless we make it one). Romney’s tax returns are an issue in the campaign because the Left (and some on our side like George Will and Chris Christie) have encouraged it to become an issue. Is Romney really going to stand up and say “I’ll release my tax returns when you release you college transcripts?”. That will just compound the problem. Romney can do one of two things: release some of his tax returns or come up with a compelling explanation as to why he will and then sell the explanation to the American people. Only then will this issue go away. Fast and Furious could be a problem for Obama, but the wind seems to have gone out of that sail.
Normally I agree with Levin. However…..
Romney has announced that he will release his 2010 return (completed and filed) and his 2011 (not completed and not filed) and that will be that. Meanwhile John McCain and members of his 2008 election staff (One on Monday with Laurence Odonnel) reviewed 20 years of Romney returns and have stated they found nothing out of the ordinary that concerned them in their vetting process. Play this video over and over again and walk away from this nonsense.
Romney is correct in letting Rachel Maddow, Laurence ODonnel and the rest of the MSM get their panties in a twist over this and move one. No one else will care in two weeks. This crap into the fan strategy by Obama isn’t going to stick.
Romney should not attack Obama’s total lack of disclosure, as much as I would love to see it. He should let other people continue to pound the point home as much as they can. If Romney gets down in this cess pit with Obama he will be standing in cessstuff up to his butt alongside Obama just where Obama wants him to be standing, distracted, with deer in the headlights eyes, looking the fool with a shovel in his hand.
Yes he needs to come down harder on Obama, but this is not the battle to fight. Rather how about we talk about successful business people who had nothing to do with their success because others did it for them??????? What?
Even better, Romney, if he had the clever gene, like Ronaldus Magnus, could re-direct the argument and make Obama look the fool at every turn.
Obama: Show us your tax returns
Romney: Let’s talk unemployment numbers
Obama: You shipped jobs overseas
Romney: Let’s see how manufacturers are doing in the US, under your regulations
Obama: You didn’t do this
Romney: How did you do it?
And so on. He could, and should, redirect the argument back to Obama’s abysmal failures. He should use every jab at him from their camp as a distinct advantage to him by turning the argument around and making the drooling masses THINK. Everyone loves snappy lines and come-backs in the sit-coms…get some smart writers and provide framework whereby Romney can redirect and then go for the throat.
Obama: See all the unemployment numbers coming down?
Romney: Yeah, in BLUE states run by REPUBLICANS. And YOU didn’t do that…YOU had help. YOU didn’t do that by yourself.
Obama: I killed Bin Ladin.
Romney: You WATCHED while our military, who you despise, killed him. You were in-between a rock and a hard place and you hem-hawed for days when the report came in that the military had found him.
It’s really, really simple. And done right it wouldn’t backfire. The truth would sting this guy at every opportunity but Romney is not taking advantage of it. Let the O-hole bloviate. Then provide a clear, simple response that is truthful.
How hard can it be?
Dear Leader will have his transcripts ready for release shortly – once they get back from he printer. Give him a break and let the ink dry, will ya?
I want to see the video tape the LA Times refuses to release.
Same here, along with all that documents that Pragmatist mentioned.
I think someone or some group has a gun to their heads, prompting them to keep that vid under wraps. My imagination tells me there is some really damning evidence in there, such as Obama displaying approval of the approach toward eliminating Israel’s existence.
SO, since Obama aka “BUSH III” is a thug, that JUSTIFIES Romney being a thug also. You are trying to claim that Romney is a SAINT but he is FORCED to become a skullduggerer because Obama is one ……… What a crock.
FIVE sons and NOT ONE was raised to LOVE America enough to volunteer for the armed forces.
The Romneys wrap themselves in the American FLAG but NEVER wrap themselves in an American UNIFORM.
FIVE GENERATIONS of Romneys have REFUSED TO SERVE this Nation.
(1) GREAT-Grandpa Romney ran to Mexico to dodge American laws, then FLIP-FLOPPED back to America when Mexico got dangerous.
(2) Daddy Romney NEVER SERVED through WWII and Korea.
(3) MITTENS Romney used “missionary” deferments to DODGE the Viet Nam draft.
(4) FIVE sons, and NOT ONE ever wore an AMERICAN UNIFORM.
The only thing “conservative” about the Romney Family is conserving THEIR OWN BEHINDS.
Romney has never been engaged in “business”. He was engaged in “finance” and nothing more than that.
Will Romney support your 2nd Amendment RIGHTS? HAHAHA He will ban them FASTER then Obama. He SIGNED a Weapons Ban that is still in effect in Massachusetts!!!
Romney thinks the only problem that’s facing America today is that rich people don’t have enough money, he is bent on solving that problem with his tax cuts and tax giveaways for the rich, and for multinational corporations, at the expense of WORKING Americans.
When Mitt Romney left the governor’s office, he took the unprecedented step of taking all of his staff hard drives and the mail server with him, despite the fact that the drives and all of the information on them were the property of the People of the State of Massachusetts. What was he so DESPERATE to hide?
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The first thing Oromney is going to do, is sign America to that UN small arms treaty. Just like Clinton was put in to ram through NAFTA, Oromney is marked to push through THAT treaty. Oromney already signed a weapons ban in Massachusetts that is still in effect, and has NO “moral center”. People are going to be STUNNED by Oromney’s betrayals.
So that job you have for Obama’s Office of the Director of Progressive Media and Online Response, Do they pay well?
Well, what he states do happen to be facts regardless of where you claim they may have come from and whether or not they support what you already want to believe.
So, basically you’re saying it’s over. We have no chance and no hope.
Fine – now what? War? Secession? Get used to our slavery? What?
Democrat Duane
Although his records of exemplary military service are no doubt sealed (along with everything else) you are certainly to be congratulated for bringing to our attention the stark contrast between the military service of The president and his Mormon opponent.
Obama’s service to the nation was so laudable (I’m sure) that when he wasn’t in Kenya campaigning with his Sharia loving cousin Odinga, he was no doubt faithfully defending America against all capitalist enemies.
Thank you for your patriotism and service.
What’s the matter? Doesn’t the name “Odinga” sound white enough for you?
“You are trying to claim that Romney is a SAINT”
Provide a cite of such, or shut the hell up. Your entire RANT is based on a strawman.
It’s as simple as this, Duane, nobody believes any of your complaints are true or are a big enough deal to vote otherwise or not at all. The thing is when Obama was running I had a sinister feeling about him. With Romney I don’t, even with the fact that he has some leftist, statist things on his record. It boils down to a character judgement for the majority, I believe, and there is no way that I am going to believe Romney is going to be worse are even similar to Obama. And I don’t think you believe that either.
This tax return demand by Obama is another head fake to divert attention from his own small and pathetic record of no accomplishments. Bill Crystal and all the talking heads show us too how pathetic their political instincts are as well. So Romeny gives them the tax records then what? Well guess what they demand more details about this or that and it goes on forever. They will never get all the details and the MSM will cover each new demand as the biggest thing since watergate. Romney needs to go on the offense and start tossing the grenades now. Obama’s record provides an almost endless stream of incompetence, bloated deficit ridden government, crimes like fast and furious, crony loans and bailouts, foreign policy blunders, shady associations with real felons and this list goes on and on. I am an amateur and I can provide more than 100 issues to shoot at. Get on with it you nitwits and stop listening to the pundits.
“He should release his tax returns after Obama releases his academic records and Holder releases Fast and Furious documents to Chairman Issa — and plainly say so.”
Well, I wouldn’t point to bad behavior in order to act badly myself. But what I WOULD say is that I would NOT be releasing any more tax returns because if I released 20 years of returns it STILL would not be enough for the Democrats. And the more years you release, the greater the probability that a mistake was made somewhere. The Democrats right now are trying to make a “felony” case out of literally nothing, so you could imagine what they would do if there really was a mistake made by some accountant. Romney would have to take two or three weeks just to explain it, diverting more attention from Obama’s horrific record.
No, Romney is right for only releasing two years. The Obama people may whine about it, but it’s a two-day story in July that will just be ignored by October. But there is NO way for Obama to hide a lousy economy, and he’s stuck with that right up to the election.
No one is making an issue of Mssr Obama’s long list of unreleased records on your left, why is the release of Mssr Romney’s records so important ? Since Americans have accepted that Obama is not going to release, maybe they should accept the same from Romney ? Tu n’es pas, d’accord ?
Here is the list from Briebart that Obama should hand over:
10. State senate papers. In the 2008 primary, Obama criticized Hillary Clinton for not releasing papers from her eight years time as First Lady–but failed to produce any papers from his eight years in Springfield. “They could have been thrown out,” he said.
9. Academic transcripts. His supposed academic brilliance was a major selling point, but Obama (by his own admission) was a mediocre student. His GPA at Occidental was a B-plus at best, and his entering class at Columbia was weak. Can he prove his merit?
8. Book proposal. Obama’s literary agent claimed he was “born in Kenya”–for sixteen years. His original book proposal exists–biographer David Maraniss refers to it–and seems to have embellished other key details of his life. Yet it has never been released.
7. Medical records. In 2000, and again (briefly) in 2008, GOP presidential candidate Sen. John McCain released thousands of pages of his medical records. Obama, who had abused drugs and continued smoking, merely provided a one-page doctor’s note.
6. Small-dollar donors. In 2008, the McCain campaign released the names of donors who had contributed less than $200, though it was not required to do so. But the Obama campaign refused, amidst accusations it had accepted illegal foreign contributions.
5. The Khalidi tape. In 2003, Obama attended a party for his good friend, the radical Palestinian academic Rashid Khalidi. The event featured incendiary anti-Israel rhetoric. The LA Times broke the story, but has refused to release the tape–and so has Obama.
4. The real White House guest list. Touting its transparency, the Obama White House released its guest logs–but kept many visits secret, and moved meetings with lobbyists off-site. It also refused to confirm the identities of visitors like Bertha Lewis of ACORN.
3. Countless FOIA requests. The Obama administration has been described as “the worst” ever in complying with Freedom of Information Act requests for documents. It has also punished whistleblowers like David Walpin, who exposed cronyism in Americorps.
2. Health reform negotiations. Candidate Obama promised that health care reform negotiations would be televised on C-SPAN. Instead, there were back-room deals woth millions with lobbyists and legislators–the details of which are only beginning to emerge.
1. Fast and Furious documents. After months of stonewalling Congress, Attorney General Eric Holder asked President Obama to use executive privilege to conceal thousands of documents related to the deadly scandal–and Obama did just that.
In addition to the above, Obama and his campaign have lied about many facts about his past–his membership in the New Party; his extensive connections with ACORN; and his continued relationship with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright, among other examples. Obama’s own memoir is filled with fabrications. And now he is lying about his opponent’s honorable record in business. He–and the media–have no shame.
It is time for Romney to stop this nonsense. Make release of 0′s total lack of available records an issue. Why did 0 issue an Executive Order on January 21, 2009, making his records a national secret? He can cancel the EO with his pen. Bet he won’t. So make that issue THE issue. The American people don’t like being lied to and they like being made to look like dupes even less. Now is the time for Romney to go for it. Every day he and the super-pacs wastes gives 0 just that much more ammunition. tommy gunn has it right. NOW
Comrade Obama is the President of the almost half of America that pays no federal taxes – and paying your FICA ain’t the same as paying an income tax no matter what the lefties say. Some of them are cronies with their hooves in the federal trough, but most are just parasites, wastes of oxygen. These people at most file a 1040EZ so they can get their EITC; they don’t know s**t about income, losses, depreciation and all that rich honky stuff that people who aren’t screwups have to deal with to pay taxes; you can tell the Obama fools anything and they’ll believe it, and, of course, the Obamunits WILL tell them anything. These are the people after all who believe the government is giving them money when they get an income tax refund.
Some states need to cowboy up and refuse to put the lying communist SOB on the ballot until he ponies up some stuff, and then maybe we can talk about Gov. Romney’s tax returns.
“Some states need to cowboy up and refuse to put the lying communist SOB on the ballot until he ponies up some stuff, and then maybe we can talk about Gov. Romney’s tax returns.”
Basic common sense that seems to have eluded the Republican establishment and the Romney camp. Makes one wonder if these people are really serious about defeating Obama & the hard left. Just think what absolution they can all feel in the wake of a second Obama term. They may not be raaaacccciiisssssts but they surely are a bunch of damned fools.
Somewhat in their defense and because I’ve been there, when you do “cowboy up” and go do something confrontational and agressive, you look around and not only do you not have a friend in the World, but one of those “true conservatives” that was telling you that you didn’t have a hair on your a** if you didn’t attack them is talking to the bubble-headed bleach on TV telling her what you should have done and how rash and ill-considered your actions were.
How long before Romney’s tax returns are “leaked”? I seem to remember the sealed divorce records of one of his opponents in Illinois were “leaked” I mean, the Obama’s IRS must have copies for Obama’s perusal.
Watching Romney handle this is a look into his character and it’s not good. He has put himself into this position and his explanations of why he won’t release his returns are laughable. The Republican pro’s who actually run political races as well as many of the Republican politicians know this issue is not going away no until those taxes are released. Listening to Mark Levin and it appears the conspiracy loons he attracts notwithstanding will be real mistake.
Face it you picked a wimp who can’t fight back. Heck he puts a disgraced guy who was born in Havana, John Sununu, to go out and make a fool out of himself and Romney yesterday having to walk back his Rush induced comments.
I’m going to tell your mother you’re down there in the basement doing that to yourself.
Keep fornicatin’ that chicken, Boston lib.
By the way, when you and your braindead liberal ilk are walking by the graveyard, what tune do you guys normally whistle?
Ha haahaahahahhhaaahhaahhhaahahahahahahhahhhahhhhhhaaaaaa! Wudda moroon…
There’s a reason why the National Review has now written an editorial calling for Romney to come clean with his tax returns and *prove* he’s got nothing to hide. They know their history:
Romney was shown to be vulnerable on this already: In MA, he lost his Senate race on this very issue. And in 2002, the *only* reason Romney was able to win the MA governor’s race was that he said that after 1999 he had gone to save the Olympics and wasn’t involved when any outsourcing and destruction of jobs took place.
MA is a heavily unionized state whose workers believe that capitalists are destroying their manufacturing jobs for gross corporate profit. That’s what they have been told again and again by their union leaders and by Democratic politicians. When they thought Romney had restructured companies by laying people off, they didn’t vote for him and he lost. When they thought Romney wasn’t involved in that, they thought better of him and he won.
Today, the heavily unionized state that Romney must win is Ohio. If Romney loses Ohio, he will lose the election. Period.
Romney wants to make this election about the economy. But in Ohio, workers there won’t vote for Romney if they believe he’s a guy who doesn’t mind laying off workers in order to turn around companies to profitability again. The workers in Ohio will react the same way the workers in MA did: Profit shouldn’t come at the expense of “good American jobs.”
Do the union idiots believe they have a RIGHT to their jobs? Do they think manna falls from heaven to pay for their labor? Do they have any idea that management and the investors in the company are out selling their product which produces a profit from which their salaries are paid? Do they not understand that if the company fails to make a profit that the workers will soon be out of a job? Oh, yeah, right, I forgot. 0 just told them their jobs depend on someone else…and he meant him. Good luck with that. Welcome to the USSA if that is the case.
Profit shouldn’t come at the expense of “good American jobs.”
Tell your commie loving union friends that if there is no profit there are no jobs.
Better yet, tell the commies that there are no jobs at all without profit. I business that does not profit has to fire people. Perhaps the aim all along.
“Profit shouldn’t come at the expense of “good American jobs.””
That’s the problem with lefty morons…they do not understand business.
Businesses do NOT exist to provide jobs or Healthcare!!! They exist to give profit to owners and shareholders…otherwise known as: PROFIT!
Leftist idiot.
sinz54,
Your post is full of questionable opinion, unproven assumptions, and inneuendo. It occasionally rises to the level of selective presentation of facts presented in a narrow context.
lot of that outsourcing was done when an obama bundler ran bain…
Yeah — Romney should hit this point and hit it hard, hit it until people can’t ignore it.
Off-topic, unrelated side note: LOL at the time stamps in this thread. You guys don’t sleep, huh?
danr, you have to remember the time stamps are in Pacific time, Eastern minus three hours, so not everybody is typing in the middle of the night. I was because the dog woke me up wanting to go outside at 4 AM Alaska time, Eastern minus four hours.
It is kinda annoying that there is no option to adjust the time zone to your area; most comment-laden websites have that feature.
Whether Mitt should release more of his tax returns is an open question. But do let us pause to savor the ironies. Exhibit A is the legislation known as Obamacare, a 2,700 page monstrosity that probably no one in Washington, including those who voted on it (most famously, the former House Speaker), has read. Nor has the press shown much interest in its various provisions, many of which remain unknown. But there is no doubt that the document and what’s in it will affect the lives of virtually every American for years to come. Exhibit B is Mitt’s tax returns. The contents of these documents (probably as impenetrable as the Affordable Health Care Act) affect virtually no American other than Mitt and his family. And yet the Democrats and the lickspittle media would have us all believe that Americans wake up each morning just clamoring to know more about Mitt’s returns. It’s almost too much to bear.
This demand coming from an administration full of tax cheats. Oh, the irony…or is it hypocrisy?
In my experience if Democrats are demanding that you release something, it is because they have a leaked copy already, usually illegally, and are wanting to legitimately use it. Rest assured that in milliseconds after a Romney release, the prepared attack will be launched and Romney’s explanations will be drowned in the Obama meme about the tax returns.
I think it is a given that Romney will have to release them at some time but I think he should mount his own noisy attack on something about Comrade Obama just to provide some cover and suppressing fire. On this one not even the standard late Friday or weekend release will help because the Obamunists have their attack prepared and are certainly at speed-dial readiness to get on the weekend news shows when he releases his tax returns. Maybe some pre-emptive revelations preparatory to the release might be best. Unfortunately, in today’s political world, the very worst things you can do is actually accomplish something or actually make a little money.
Nonsense. If they had something, it would ‘appear’ at Wikileaks. Then it would be declared fair game by the MSM.
Try to keep up; we’re not playing at that level. There are two, maybe three, places Romney’s tax records could leak: somewhere inside the Romney family and his accountants/lawyers, the IRS, and the maybe is somewhere in Bain Capital. A Romney insider is possible but bloody unlikely. Inside Bain is possible but unlikely because it is unlikely they, though they’re mostly Democrats, would have the tax returns. That leaves the IRS, which happens to work for Comrade Obama.
I don’t agree with Levin.
What he’s suggesting would be like Herman Cain saying, “I’ll stop engaging in sexual harassment, only after the CEO of Domino’s Pizza stops engaging in sexual harassment.”
Sorry, one’s moral code is not conditional on what others do. My parents taught me as a child that “Other kids do it too” is no excuse.
Romney doesn’t have to give the Dems a fishing expedition. But he should *prove his claim*. He said repeatedly than when all those layoffs and outsourcings occurred in companies restructured by Bain post-1999, he wasn’t involved because he had gone off to manage the Olympics.
Fine. Easy to prove. Romney can release just those parts of his tax returns and just those documents at Bain that detail the extent (or lack thereof) of his involvement with Bain operations in that time period.
There is no obligation to release tax returns. Failure to do so is not illegal. There is no moral obligation to expose your private financial decisions.
My parents taught me as a child that “Other kids do it too” is no excuse.
They did no such thing. “Other kids do it too” is a stock lefty argument, and you’re a stock lefty.
If Romney doesn’t release back to 1999 he’s toast no matter what you guys think. Romney has had a tough three weeks starting with him stepping on the Republicans big line of “See Obamacare is a big tax increase” when he said no it’s a penalty and had to walk that back and muddy the waters. Then he get Murdock to tweet his team is pretty weak (how right he looks), then he gets this tax issue dumped all over him and he looks like he never was expecting it, and then he gets good old John McCain saying he picked Sarah Palin because she was a better candidate yesterday. If you are the President you have to be laughing at how Romney looks trying to defend when he did or did not leave Bain.
Now let’s dream about what could be be on his taxes as follows:
1 – he did not give as much as he should of to the Mormon Church (they like 10%) and that could be very embarrassing to his religious brethren.
2 – he could have taken advantage of past tax amnesty for foreign taxes
3 – he could have paid no taxes in both 2008 and 2008
4 – he took a very large salary from Bain from 1999- 2002
5 – He closed more foreign tax haven accounts that showed him evading taxes if someone reviews them other than his PriceWaterhouseCoopers accountants.
6 – even the ideologues at PJM after reviewing these returns would abandon him for Gary Johnson
Life is good!
I’d rather dream about Obama being sent packing back to Chicago next year.
“even the ideologues at PJM after reviewing these returns would abandon him for Gary Johnson”
Sure they would.
I hope for that chicken’s sake you’re wearing a condom…
Are you still down there in momma’s basement doing that to yourself, BostonLib? It’s going to stunt your growth!
“If you are the President you have to be laughing at how Romney looks trying to defend when he did or did not leave Bain.”
The convoluted sentence betrays the fact that there is nothing that needs “defending”. Unless you´re a partisan hack of course. It is not as if Romney had been palling around with terrorists like Obama.
This is only the usual Democrat smear machine at work – creating exactly the distractions Obama used to whine about in 2008 – and like everything liberals say these days, it is a desperate attempt to deflect attention from their own indefensible record and policy outcomes. “Let´s talk instead about what a horrible person you are”. Personalize, destroy. It´s old. We´re on to it. To call it ideological would elevate it too far.
If I were Romney, I would mention the 19.4% of his income that he gave to charity in 2011, the (probable) 5% of income he paid to Massachusetts, as well as the millions he paid to the US Treasury, with the sum being about 40% of his income….all of which was put at risk in ventures that contributed to the economy, and, in all liklihood, created and funded hundreds if not thousands of jobs. I probably wouldn’t mention the other millions in taxes that were withheld and paid by Bain and his other investment vehicles prior to that income being distributed to him as captial gains. That would probably double the 15% he paid as his capital gains rate, but it is too complicated for idiot liberals to understand, since they don’t understand the concept of what a captital gain is or how they are earned.
I would say that if governments didn’t flush 90% of the taxes they get down the toilet, I wouldn’t give such a huge amount to charity, because it wouldn’t be necessary.
Then I would ask how much, on average, barack obama has given to charity since 2000, as a % of his income.
Then I would distribute the one set of tax returns that John Kerry published in 2004 that showed the true income of his loving little family unit. The TWO PAGES released showed that he and his wife paid something like 13% tax on about 6 million in joint declared income on a fortune estimated at the time to be over 1 billion.
That’s right, hero Kerry declared that his family income was about 5% of the fortune he abandoned the mother of his children to marry into, and that he paid taxes of about 13% ON THAT sliver. And there isn’t any doubt whatsoever that it’s by far the greatest % that the two criminal lovebirds ever paid in taxes in their blissful wedded life together.
You might wonder why somebody like hero Kerry, in the midst of a raging bull market in 2003 and 2004 was only able to make about 5% on his vast fortune, despite the ability to hire the best financial advisors on planet earth, but that’s a question for another day. (hint: he earned FAR more than 5%, but the money somehow didn’t get declared on his income taxes.)
Wow, we seem to have a lot of Obama shills posting here today. I agree with the author and with Levin. Romney needs to keep on playing hardball. And that is what will be needed after he is elected as well.
Grim demographic news for Romney, as he intensifies his attacks on the “un-American” Obama. After he is elected to what? 70% support among Latino voters. Ouch!
http://www.latinodecisions.com/blog/2012/07/18/after-sb1070-decision-obama-widens-lead-over-romney/
We’ll see. FOX is launching a new spanish speaking channel to present the conservative message to a people who are generally conservative latinos to compete against the lib tele-mundo. It will launch just in time to give them a good 3 month run right up to the election.
I suppose there’s always hope, huh? Gotta have something to hang on to I guess. I wouldn’t count on it though. Better you guys plan on ramping up the angry white vote as much as you can (before they die).
Yeah, that’s the usual lefty response. If the American people won’t support you, just replace them with with more compliant serfs.
If the liberals are demanding complete disclosure from Romney, then we demand complete disclosure from obama: transcripts from all his “education”, passport data and which country issued them, etc., etc. I thought obama was supposed to be our “transparent” president. Instead he seems to be our “shallow” president. By the way, tell John Kerry to move his yacht back to the state he represents and leave it there to pay the “fair” tax burden he owes the state.
Of course the federal-trough-wallowers on the right want the tax returns released.
The marxists are demanding it, and whatever they demand, they should get.
If not, then how will the beltway boys make their billions if the marxists win again. They don’t want to be punished.
Which politician said it was important for someone running for office to release their tax returns? Oh yeah, it was George Romney, whom released 12 years of tax returns. He said it was important to have a candidate’s tax returns from before their planed to run for the office of the president.
For those that want some actual facts, here is a site that compiled tax returns of political figures. http://www.taxhistory.org/www/website.nsf/Web/PresidentialTaxReturns/
JFK didn’t release any tax records. Jimmy Carter released his 1977 records in 1978 (election was in November 1976). Bill Clinton released his 1992 records in 1993 (election was in November 1992).
I would be glad to have a President who has managed to be successful at something. I would look directly into the camera and tell them to pound sand, I won’t even entertain the idea until Obama comes clean on (1. Fast and Furious 2. School records etc.) Obama will never come clean on any of that because it would probably implicate him criminally and would definitely lose him the election.
George Romney released 12 years of his tax returns when running against Nixon, guess what. He still lost. The law says that tax returns are private, he should just ignore this and keep oon pushing the failures of Obama.
I have a question. How would people feel if Romney had been keeping large amounts of money in offshore accounts to avoid paying taxes?
Everyone tries to pay the least amount of taxes possible. If you say that you don’t I’m calling you a liar. If he was using the system with the loopholes put in place by congress (both parties, don’t be obtuse) more power to him. I want my President to be smart too.
Personally, I already think Romney is a crooked snake and a perfect example of ruling-class Republicans who have contributed mightily to the destruction of this great country.
But I have a question for you.
How would you feel if it turned out that obama’s parents were communists, his mentors were communists, he was an avowed marxist in college, and for years thereafter…and he HAD NEVER PUBLICALLY REPUDIATED ANY OF IT. And then, once he lied his way into a position of immense power, he had proceeded to subvert the Constituion, bankrupt the country, loot the wealth of anybody who works for a living, and crammed laws down our throats that are about as popular as enforced root canals for life.
For myself, I prefer the crooked snake who at least seems to like the country and didn’t bath in Communism for 30 years.
I agree that more is expected of Romney than Obama and Obama should have to release a lot of information. Didn’t Romney release anything when he ran for governor? Romney donated a lot to the Mormons….probaably more than many other Mormons. Romney made his money in the good old American way. The rich have golden loopholes which the rest of us don’t have. His earnings are just as legitimate as those of the rock stars and professional athletes.
Obama is claiming that government helped the inventors etc but he doesn’t mention that this works two ways. Crimes are often committed where there is easy access to a highway and many sthletic venues are built with public funds. The rock stars wouldn’t be stars if not publically supported.
“Campaign conventions” – that would be priceless irony if it came from a pro-Obama source.
No. Mitt should not release all his tax returns. It’s enough that he has been a business man and RICH for all his life, and worked very hard to be that and also a man of integrity thanks to his family, training, and religion…(yes that cult that produces such decent, successful people) Playing into the hands of the crazed left will only produce more insanity from those bent on his destruction. Obviously nothing will satisfy them. The truth is beyond their understanding.
Rommey should get his CPA to send out a 1 page letter saying his finances are in clean health and he has conformed to the current US tax code in its entirety.
Just like Obama’s physician’s letter about his health.
Do you have the same beliefs as Romney? Is this the guy you pick to be president?
He believes that Jesus Christ is Satan’s brother.
He believes that God lives near a planet called “Kolob.”
He believes in baptizing dead people.
He believes that Jesus is married to a goddess wife.
He believes that The Garden of Eden was in Missouri.
He believes that it was impossible for Negroes to go to Heaven before 1978.
He believes that Jesus has children from his wife or wives.
He believes that he is going to become a god.
He believes he will own his own personal planet after he dies.
He believes the real Christian God is not eternal but rather that He was once a man on some other planet besides Earth!
He believes he needs to wear magical underwear created by Mormons and he is never to take it off unless he is bathing.
He believes it is a sin to drink anything containing caffeine. And that even includes True American™ drinks like Coca-Cola!
He believes children between the ages of 18-21 should wear name badges, ride bicycles and always smile.
Leftist moron troll acts like a leftist moron troll.
Everything outlined in the post are doctrines of the Mormon Church. None of it untrue, even though you seem to dislike where it is coming from. Mormons, I might add, also deny the Virgin Birth and the Holy Trinity, central tenets of mainstream Christianity. You guys are stuck with him, that is unless, you can at the last minute recruit guvner quittypants.
You are the one prepared to vote for the first non-Christian candidate for President of the United States. Proof of this rests in the Mormon doctrines themselves. For instance, Mormons believe that “Jesus’ sacrifice was not able to cleanse us from all our sins, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 3, p. 247, 1856.”
Believing that Jesus died for our sins is central to Christianity. Mormons don’t believe this, so are they Christian, even though they say they are?
PROOF: Mitt Romney Is As Liberal As OBAMA!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1fThdWagJ4&feature=player_detailpage
You have become very tiresome!
In your case I would agree that he/she might be wasting their time. You are so brain dead that you would vote for [anyone but Obama] even if said candidate was filmed snorting cocaine out of the ass crack of a dead 13 year old boy (and knowing the degenerate republicans, I’m sure someone has done it).
Cynical Wonder,
Your supposition is not clever, it is disgusting. It also reveals quite a bit about your character as a human being.
Stupid Blunder, you’re like a 9th Grade boy trying to prove to his buddies that he can talk grosser than they can. One day we sane people are going to have a serious disagreement with idiots like you. Hopefully soon because I want to still be young enough to enjoy your wives and girlfriends.
It is easy to understand why the communists want Romney to release his tax returns. It is just as easy to understand why the RINOs want the same.
Wrong. Romney should NEVER release his tax returns and defend his individual privacy. He should make the point that he protects his privacy and he will protect the privacy of all Americans. Attempts to bully, cajole, shame, or force him (or any American) into revealing personal details will be stopped.
And then ask why Obama has not released PUBLIC Fast and Furious documents. These are the public’s business, privacy has no place.
”And then ask why Obama has not released PUBLIC Fast and Furious documents. These are the public’s business, privacy has no place.”
He was all over it like white on rice two days ago on Fox and Friends:
mitt-romney-isnt-going-to-feed-the-trolls-by-releasing-more-of-his-past-tax-returns
Cut off part of the link. Here’s the fully functional one:
http://www.therightscoop.com/mitt-romney-isnt-going-to-feed-the-trolls-by-releasing-more-of-his-past-tax-returns/
Now you’re talking! This is the way to play turn-about on the Leftist hyenas. Romney needs to differentiate himself from Obama every chance he gets, and this is what the election should be about – our God-given right as individuals to tell the collectivists to stay out of our pockets and our lives.
Agree.
Sure! keep pounding on this one: OBUMMER should release his college records and his REAL birth certificate and then Romney can safely release ANYTHING because: POOF! ….Oabummer will be gone. To quote the liberal witch Savannah.Guthrie: what has HE got to hide??? He being Barack Hussein O…….
I wouldn’t release one thing and I would tell Obama very plainly that I would be willing to release a couple of years tax returns after he disclosed every document that he has hidden. That includes a real birth certificate, if he has one. As far as these RINO’s go, I would have to tell them to KMA.
Obama eventually to arrange for the release — either secretly or through executive order — of all of Romney’s tax returns, perhaps suitably edited to make them look as bad as possible. Why shouldn’t he? The MSM is in his pocket and won’t seriously condemn him for it, and there’s not really enough time to impeach Obama — and have the Senate vote on removing him from office — before the election. (In fact the Republicans would rather run against Obama than some Democratic replacement who doesn’t have to take responsibility for the last four years.)
Really, when you think about it, Romney is in effect counting on Obama’s sense of justice and fair play to keep those returns secret. That may be part of the reason so many Republicans are suggesting the forms be released now. The pro-release Republican camp may well and truly have taken Obama’s measure and, unlike Romney, they fully realize how debased Obama’s character is and how willing his most trusted followers are to do whatever is asked in the name of racial solidarity. (Remember, for example, all the secret government information that was released about that plumber who made Obama look bad during the 2008 campaign.)
Basically what I’ve been saying. After *you,* Mr, transparently opaque President & International Man of Mystery!