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“So fragile was the structure of their reality that a single unsubsumed consciousness, a solitary ripple in their little pond was enough to roil the waters into a frothing, burbling foam.”—Norman Spinrad, The Void Captain’s Tale (1985)

 

Consider five factors that had no effect on the very warm reception given by President Barack Obama to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan:

– While the U.S. government has pressured Erdogan not to visit the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip, Erdogan announced in the White House Rose Garden that he would do so. An alleged U.S. ally says publicly in front of Obama, while being hosted by him, that he is going to defy the United States.

This is not some routine matter. With previous presidents, if an ally was going to do something like that he would say nothing at the time, and then months later would subvert U.S. policy. Or better yet, the foreign leader would not do so. To announce defiance in such a way is a serious sign of how little respect Middle East leaders have for Obama — and for U.S. policy nowadays — and how little Obama will do about it.

– Equally bad: Erdogan directly promised Obama that he would conciliate with Israel. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu cooperated, because Obama asked him to do so. That’s what U.S. allies do. But immediately Erdogan showed he would pay no attention to the agreement he made.

His negotiators subverted it in several ways, including with demands for ridiculously large amounts of money, the delay in the promised return of the Turkish ambassador to Israel, and the continuation of legal action against Israeli officials involved in the Mavi Marmara affair, when Israeli soldiers were attacked by Turkish terrorists demanding to sail to Gaza to deliver equipment to Hamas.

So a second time, Erdogan betrayed Obama and make the president look foolish (that is, had anyone in the mass media pointed it out). Again, there was no U.S. criticism of the move or apparent pressure to make Erdogan keep his promise.

Three other ways that Erdogan has subverted U.S. interests with minimal costs (in fact, the Obama administration has usually furthered this behavior):

– Some small U.S. diplomatic protests were made about the growing internal repression in Turkey and human rights violations there. Increasingly, the country lives under a reign of intimidation even as the Western media mostly ignores this situation. Since the United States keeps praising him, Erdogan can demoralize his opponents, who cannot hope for foreign help even as he carries on a policy of spreading anti-Americanism in Turkey.

The political power of the Turkish armed forces — the traditional guarantor of the republic and stability in the country — was dismantled by Erdogan with U.S. approval. The Turkish media was subverted with only an occasional American squeal of complaint. Now he’s destroying the independent judicial system, the last barrier to his assault on democratic rule. The U.S. embassy in Turkey consistently warned about what has been happening; the White House ignored this information.

– With the Obama administration’s permission, the Turkish government violates the sanctions against Iran with ever-larger trade and major bilateral cooperation projects. Erdogan’s consistent defenses of Iran’s policies (though the two countries are at odds over Syria) have been forgiven and forgotten by the White House.

– In many ways, the Turkish government has been taking the lead on setting U.S. policy toward Syria. It was Erdogan who largely determined that the official opposition exile leadership would be dominated by the Muslim Brotherhood, a path followed by Obama. (I can’t prove it — but I’ll bet that Turkey’s regime promised Obama that if he would declare support for the rebels verbally and let them be armed by Qatar and Saudi Arabia then Assad would easily fall. I’d also bet that Erdogan assured Obama that if the president helped the rebels a moderate government would emerge in Syria.)

Meanwhile, Obama has praised Erdogan unstintingly. Obama thinks Erdogan is the very model of a “moderate Islamist”, and since Obama’s strategy is to support such people in much of the Arab world, Erdogan has been his guide to the region, though this has meant supporting the radical Islamists of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Especially ironic: Obama believed that Erdogan’s goals were essentially the same as those of the United States, while Erdogan was in fact following a profoundly anti-American policy designed to bring hostile Islamist governments to power. Remember this is no longer the old Western-oriented Turkey of previous decades, but a radical — if concealed — Islamist regime.

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Greetings:

I was fortunate enough to have a father who mentioned, more than several times, that one "shouldn't have to drink the ocean to know it's salty". Burdened by that kind of twig bending, it was easy for me to get off the "Turkey is our ally" bus when it pulled in the welcome mat when our 4th Infantry Division wanted to go a-knocking on Saddam Hussein's many palace doors. Regrettably, but not unpredictably, it's been all downhill since they got away with that. Obviously, President Obama, if not an actual Islamist, is certainly an Islamophiliac in these days of living dangerously. For him, Islam is thicker than water.

Islam is the millstone. If your plan doesn't include constraining, undermining, or eradicating Islam, you don't have a plan. What you have us a hope.
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"....Obama's disastrous foreign policy."

We have a NATIONAL foreign policy NOT presidential foreign policies. Our national foreign policy was developed and implemented post WWII and continues to the present. Our national foreign policy is one of communist containment and nation building. Furthermore, we have 'principal' allies for whom are allied with our national foreign policy.

NO U.S. President acts on foreign policy matters in a politically partisan/ideological or individually independent vacuum! ALL presidents follow the national foreign relation sttrategic policy and seek allied, external and internal consultations as situations evolve within a particular nation or geograhpic region. To make such claims or to infer such, is being intellectually dishonest and displaying self serving partisan politics.

That said, I'm a strong advocate against the fundementals of nation building and the decades of results and consequences it has reaped. ALL presidents and our principal allies have followed this strategic policy, with ALL making their fair sahre of blunders in keeping the national foreign relations policy in place -- Obama no different than ALL his post WWII predecessors. We certainly need to re-address our national strategic foregin relations policy but raling on any particular presidents who come an go every four or eight years is NOT the course to take in making meaningful changes.

My position on Israel. Quit micro managing their national security but make it well known that we will not provide any military assistance unless, 'non bordering' nations militaries make a strike against them.
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"But the result will be stalemate, continued war for two years or more, and tens of thousands of more deaths."

Well, at least there is something good coming of all this!
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I am confident both parties are doing their best to undermine Israel by empowering Israel's enemies. Perhaps, Erdogan has hopes of being the Caliph of region 4 NATO is helping put together under the moniker Arab spring.
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"Some small U.S. diplomatic protests were made about the growing internal repression in Turkey and human rights’ violations there. Increasingly, the country lives under a reign of intimidation even as the Western media mostly ignores this situation." Why would Obama object to this, he is doing all he can to his own citizens?
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You realize that Israel is not the 51st state, right? Their interests do not automatically coincide with America's interests.

Besides, Turkey is a member of NATO and Israel is not. We should be siding with our NATO allies by default. Not Israel.
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You have a point about Turkey being in NATO and Israel not. However, beingin NATO does not automatically mean support. Early in the Falkland's war the US was definitely noncommital about its support for the UK. The key question here is not about NATO ( which IMHO has outlived its usefullness) but on who is the more useful ally. I believe that Israel has provided more return on investment (political/diplomatic/economic) than Turkey ever has or ever will.
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Extra Stout indeed. And thick
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You need to look up the definition of "ally".
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NATO, North Atlantic Treaty Organization: a system of collective defense whereby its member states agree to mutual defense in response to an attack by any external party.

Turkey is a member. Israel is not.
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You're an embarrassment to PJ Media. Please desist from further outbursts of nonsense.
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Simply restating an irrelevant statement means nothing. Can you cite an example of Turkey's interests coinciding with those of America and an example of where the interests of Israel do not?
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You need to lay off the stout.

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Let's face it; Obama is drunk on power and it's sickening; absolutely sickening and disgusting!
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Almost opposite to Turkey's blatant disrespect toward the US is the almost craven accommodation that Israel grants the US. Today it's reported that Israel has extended Gaza's fishing zone back to 6 miles. It had earlier restricted it due to security threats and assaults coming out of Gaza. Why did Israel do this? Because Kerry is coming to town to push his "peace" agenda, and they want one less issue to spoil the "atmosphere". Turkey can get away with betraying a personal commitment to Obama, but Israel will get chewed out for just *planning* to build in the wrong place.
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Greetings:

I was fortunate enough to have a father who mentioned, more than several times, that one "shouldn't have to drink the ocean to know it's salty". Burdened by that kind of twig bending, it was easy for me to get off the "Turkey is our ally" bus when it pulled in the welcome mat when our 4th Infantry Division wanted to go a-knocking on Saddam Hussein's many palace doors. Regrettably, but not unpredictably, it's been all downhill since they got away with that. Obviously, President Obama, if not an actual Islamist, is certainly an Islamophiliac in these days of living dangerously. For him, Islam is thicker than water.

Islam is the millstone. If your plan doesn't include constraining, undermining, or eradicating Islam, you don't have a plan. What you have us a hope.
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Erdogan is scum ... and if I ever met him, well, it wouldn't be pretty.
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In related news...more mega mosques come to America. This one funded by the Turks. New territory claimed.

'A Symbol of Friendship' : Turkish PM Lays Stone for $100M Masjid Complex In Maryland

ttp://www.muslimlinkpaper.com/community-news/community-news/3358.html

The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers...
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Yikes!

I thought we evaded that when we defeated a zoning application for a Muslim "mid-Atlantic conference center" or some such, two or more years ago at Walkersville, Md.

This is too close to home. There's enough Muslim penetration in Northern Virginia.


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I tried that link, and received:

"No results found for http://www.muslimlinkpaper.com/community-news/community-news/3358.html [http://www.muslimlinkpaper.com/community-news/community-news/3358.html]"

.........
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Remember Turkey forbids new construction of Christian Churches, even renovation and maintenance work to standing churches and church properties.
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Northern Virginia and Maryland are suburbs of Washington DC, and that is where Muslims from the MENA and South Asia are interested in infiltrating and influencing.
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Try this one at Vlad Tepes Blog. I originally ran across this at Loonwatch.

http://vladtepesblog.com/?p=64221
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"Especially ironic: Obama believed that Erdogan’s goals were essentially the same as those of the United States,"
No irony there if you replace "the United States" with "Obama's own goals. I think he's given more than ample proof in his various declarations that his pronouncements are purely for public consumption. They often neither reflect the facts nor his true sentiments.
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The fact of the matter is that Obama has placed America -- most demonstrably through acceding to the demands of MB affiliated Islamic entities that we "purge" our LEO, intelligence agencies, national security, and military training "materials" of any "bias" toward Islam -- under submission to Islam, at the expense of our ability to know the enemy, Sun Tzu-style. Concurrent with this outrage is the administration's promotion of UN resolution 16/18, at the behest of the OIC, to criminalize free speech world wide that in any way disparages Islam. This is why Erdogan could announce to the world his anti-American plans standing beside the American President: His comments told the world, most importantly the Islamic world, that Islam has brought America to heel.

The lefty regime in DC is all too eager to get in line with the Islamic agenda since it's another of its many pillared-strategy to destroy the historic American nation.
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