Quantitative Easing, Weimar Edition
This morning the Federal Reserve announced it was going to embark on a third round of “quantitative easing,” a financial maneuver that already has its own nickname: QE3.
But what exactly is “quantitative easing”? Well, as The Washington Post helpfully explains,
Since the Federal Reserve can just create dollars out of thin air, it can buy up assets like long-term Treasuries or mortgage-backed securities from commercial banks and other institutions. This pumps money into the U.S. economy and reduces long-term interest rates further.
“Create dollars out of thin air” is another way of saying, “Print money.” Since the U.S. dollar is no longer backed by gold or any other commodity other than people’s faith in the government, the Federal Reserve can just print up billions of dollars and hand them out. (“Print” in this situation is entirely metaphorical, of course: the government isn’t actually printing paper bills, but rather just arbitrarily increasing the amount of “money” it has.)
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Now, the average person might wonder: If creating money is that easy, then why don’t we just print up $16 trillion and get ourselves out of debt? The answer is interesting: Although the government can increase the amount of cash floating around, it can’t conjure actual value or worth. All it can do is put more money into circulation in an economic system whose underlying net worth remains the same. The end result is that, although the total amount of dollars in circulation increases, the cumulative value of things to buy remains the same — so the intrinsic worth of each dollar is diminished. Another word for this is inflation.
In fact, artificially creating inflation is one of the goals of quantitative easing, in situations where deflation (as happened during the Great Depression) would otherwise be likely to occur. The first round of QE, back in 2008, was indeed enacted to stave off looming deflation.
The Federal Reserve, we can only assume, announced QE3 as an attempt to help the economy, but many experts disagree, with some thinking it will have no effect whatsoever, while others think it could actually hurt in the long run. Quantitative easing is generally thought of as a “shot of adrenaline,” to give the economy an artificial but electrifying quick boost, in the hopes that the boost will be self-sustaining, and optimism will build upon optimism and it will shock us out of the doldrums. But other economists fear that giving adrenaline to an exhausted weak man will not magically make him strong — it will just force him to have a brief period of hyperactivity before it wears off and he collapses, weaker and more worn out than before.
Quantitative Easing in Weimar Republic Germany
I’m not enough of an expert to know if 2012′s QE3 will work as hoped, but I do know about a comparable moment in history when “quantitative easing” went haywire and ended up causing hyperinflation.
Travel back with me to Germany in 1923 and let’s look at what can happen when a government starts printing money with no basis behind it.
The root causes of the hyperinflation in Weimar Germany are complicated and still debated: the wikipedia article on the topic is a good starting point if you’re interested. Germany at the time (just as the U.S. does now) had a crushing national debt, and many other nations felt that Germany intentionally ignited inflation of the German Mark as a way to “inflate its way out of debt” — a strategy some have suggested for the U.S. now, in fact.
But as the citizens of Germany discovered in 1923, once inflation starts heating up, it can quickly reach a level of explosive combustion that even the government can’t control. In the early ’20s, the other nations of Europe, distrusting the stability of the German Mark, began demanding payment in either gold or foreign denominations. So the German government frantically began buying up other nations’ currencies. But those other nations didn’t trust that the Marks they were getting would keep their value, so they demanded a higher and higher exchange rate. So Germany simply starting printing up bills to pay the higher rates, but that only increased the doubts over the Mark’s solvency, and exchange rates rose, and more money was printed, and it spiraled out of control. In early 1923 trust in the value of the German Mark completely collapsed, and it quickly descended toward worthlessness. With every passing month, week, day, hour, the Mark became worth less and less, and the government had to print more and more bills of higher and higher denomination. This lasted until late November 1923, when the Mark was discarded as a currency entirely, and a new national currency — the “Rentenmark” — was introduced, with 12 zeros being lopped off the old prices.
By chance I recently came into possession of a fascinating collection of these now worthless “inflation Marks” from the Weimar Republic. (So many are still floating around that you can pick them up fairly easily at flea markets and collectibles stores.) I scanned the bills and present them below for your edification as to what can happen when “quantitative easing” is overused:

This bill, which is dated February 1920, predates the inflation: It was worth 10 marks, a decent amount at the time. This is our starting point.

Fast forward a few years: By November 1922, the inflation has already become serious. This bill from that month has a denomination of 50,000 Marks, which would have been a fortune back in 1920, but by November 1922 was worth about as much as the 10 Mark bill above.

Now we’re up to February 1923. 100,000 Marks was by this time the equivalent of pocket change.

A few months later, in August 1923, 200,000 Mark bills were as commonplace. But this was just the beginning. (Starting with this bill, it’s not entirely clear on which exact date each note was actually printed; the dates shown on the bills may be the dates that the issuance was authorized. I’ve done my best to keep them chronological.)

A short time later, denominations in the hundreds of thousands has already become essentially worthless. The government began issuing bills worth millions of Marks, such as this 2 million Mark note.

Also from late August or early September 1923, this 5 million Mark note might have gotten you a small loaf of bread if you were lucky. Note that the German Mint was in full panic mode, and had no time to actually print up new bills anymore: they simply began overprinting old bills. In this case, a 20 mark note was overprinted to become a 5 million Mark note.

By September 2, 1923, 10 million mark notes were essentially the smallest bill of any real value; anything less than 10 million was meaningless.

A week or so later, 50 million Mark notes replaced the 10 million Mark notes at the bottom of the currency scale.

By October, 100 million Mark notes were like pennies are to us today.

And finally, this note likely from November of 1923 (according to the dates in the fine print, its issuance was authorized in September and it was supposed to maintain its value until January 1924) was for the princely sum of 500 million Marks. Just a few years earlier, owning 500 million Marks would have made you the richest person in Germany. By November of 1923, it took a pocketful of bills like these — or, famously, a wheelbarrow of lesser bills — just to get a bite to eat.
The following week, all these bills were officially declared worthless, and Germany started over with a new currency.
Does a similar fate await the United States?
Flashback: All This and Weimar, Too: The Million Reichsmark March







The part about continuing to inflate until things turn around is problemmatic. If part of the reason things are not turning around is all the easing in the first place we are just compounding the doubt as to what anything is really worth.
Helicopter Ben indeed. I think it must be a Sikorsky.
I ahven’t seen any mention of how Germany got out of hyperinflation…. I think I have wiki to thank for this bit of info so I have a 80% cofidence it in being right, but they basically printed ‘backed money’ again. Not backed with gold, but land.
And now for a conspiricy moment – so China buys a lot of US treasuries and demands value for them… The Current US gov’t inflates the currancy, but has lots of land rights (mineral rights) tied up, and suddenly China aquires the land and rights and proceeds to pump US oil and gas over to Asia (along with reare earths and other minerals)…. continuing this line of thought – now the US is like colonial Africa where all the raw materials leave it. /end conspiricy moment.
Personally I have the greatest hope for American’s “doing the right thing after having tried all the wrong ones”
The insidiousness of this inflationary strategy is that it hurts the middle class the most. If you are with government you can keep voting yourself higher pay to keep pace with inflation (happening here now). If you are rich or involved in crony capitalism, you can make the moves to counteract the inflation by owning the right assets (see GE, Soros and many others). But if you have worked hard and have a pile of $20 bills in your mattress or in a savings account, you are about to get whipsawed into poverty.
I have a theory that it is always the private sector middle class who pay the price for the folly of government. We can be our own worse enemy when we help elect people like those now in power. But more frightening is the modern day fact that there are no longer enough of us to stop them since the wealthy and government workers/dependents taken together represent a majority of voters.
U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald named as source of leak.
http://illinoispaytoplay.com/2012/09/14/u-s-attorney-patrick-fitzgerald-named-as-source-of-leak/
I fully expect that this is the course our economy will follow in the near future. I also predict the following:
*The New York Times will not find hyperinflation newsworthy, and the only place it will be mentioned is in the upper corner, where the newstand price will be $20 billion.
*Natalie Portman will be featured in an Us Weekly spread talking about how she feels patriotic about spending half a trillion dollars on a facial and a small veggie pizza at Spago
*Beyonce will host a quadrillion dollar a plate fundraiser for the Obama Presidential Library
*Starving to death will be considered a racist act
In the meanwhile, I’m off to buy more canned goods.
Andrew B,
ALso, another handgun and tactical rifle!
A bit ironic that the image on the 2,000,000 mark bill, at a glance, looks kind of like a human skull.
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The caption says it’s just the “Technical Fair in Leipzig.” The skull illusion was probably just an accident.
The only accomplishment Bend over Ben achieved today is guaranteeing higher food and gas prices. The definition of stupid is trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Bernacke cast his vote for the little King Sept 13.
Check out the market today. Turmoil in the Middle East and the Dow pops 200. Was there ever any doubt that our Dear Leader would insure that there won’t be any negative market gyrations when HE is running for reelection.
Actually, that’s the historical pattern. Markets are almost always up in election years for the simple reason that presidents have lots of things they can do to help insure there aren’t any market hiccups to disrupt their campaigns.
Which tells you just how serious the fascist/marxists were in 2008 when they drove the market down 53% from peak, bankrupted a genration, and created 40 million senior citizens totally dependent on government. You can be sure it wouldn’t have happened if it was a reelection year for Bush. It probably also indicates that Dubya wasn’t exactly a fan of McLame. I wouldn’t be surprised to discover the Bush’s voted for obama.
Next up…a dive in gasoline prices. I thought we might be below $2 by election day, but it’s probably too late for Putin and the Goatherders to arrange that. But $3 is probably good enough, and will save the despots several billion in pocket money.
This is also a backdoor tax on everybody, the government transferring the value of everybody’s savings and paychecks, to others.
Yes it is a tax. Consider gasoline. They will take more taxes when the price rises, even if the dollar has less value.
It’s even more direct than that. Instead of taking 1 of every 4 dollars you make via traditional tax, they merely decrease the value/purchasing power of your $4 by a $1, and transfer it elsewhere. Except, a bunch of idiots didnt notice, and Obama gets to say he didnt raise taxes on the middle class and poor, in his campaign rhetoric.
No. With the exception of sales tax, most taxes on gasoline are the cents-per-gallon variety, not cents-per-dollar. This fact is what caused the near-collapse of the heavy highway construction trade, beginning in 2007. The industry, which is largely funded by highway use taxes (cents-per-gallon) never recovered after the first $4/gallon spike in 2008. Most of the tax revenues generally used for highway construction go WAY down when gas prices go up, simply because people buy less gas as a response to high prices. States and counties — who administer and fund most highway projects — are forced to cut back. In turn, I was forced to take early retirement in 2010 (at age 55) as a direct result of high gas and diesel prices.
Inflation is indeed a tax, one that only the federal government can impose, because it controls the money supply. But it’s a tax that’s even less visible than your (incorrect) example would be. By increasing the money supply (inflation is NOT rising prices, despite popular conception), the Fed confiscates a portion of the value of every dollar you now have. You don’t see “tax dollars” flowing to Washington. You see YOUR dollars shrinking, buying less.
ZOMBIE;
You’re good with a camera. Get a photo of Obama’s ass. I’m sure it will be bruised from all the kisses from the media.
It’s why he’s staying out of Washington; Too many there are puckered up and waiting for their chance to embrace his derrière.
Ammo, and canned-goods, never lose their value.
More current than the Wiemar Republic; check out Wikipedia’s entry on Zimbabwean hyperinflation; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_Zimbabwe
Yeah, but I don’t own any Zimbabwe dollars to scan.
http://flowerpoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/zimbabwe.jpg
More photos here:
http://www.teslamap.com/public/hyperinflation/index.html
And the worst hyperinflation ever:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_peng%C5%91
Let us call it ‘stealth-inflation’ from the progressive folks who sold shovel ready jobs. The average person may look at the stockmarket and think that these are better off than four years ago times because their 401K went up. Here is where the smoke and mirrors come to play because the dollar is devalued, the company behind the stock is not more productive, but that little piece of paper has more zeros; its says that it is worth more, but again, the purchasing power of the dollar is down.
The grand, not funny joke, is that by printing more money, the economy is stimulated because folks will borrow more money to buy their stuff. Their stuff now costs more, so that sensation of wealth goes away, like smoke. The constant lie is that inflation is steady if one excludes petroleum and food from the index. Stealth inflation brings the rubes to their knees, not laughing.
May I suggest a short book that may help those who don’t really get it?
The book is called Alice in Blunderland by John Kendrick Bangs. Since it was written about a century ago it is out of copyright and free on Kindle.
Sad that the book still seems so relevant.
Another good one is “Whatever Happened to Penny Candy?” Short book, written for middle schoolers (I had my oldest read it in 9th grade) and anyone else who wants to learn the basics of economics and inflation.
Well, Zombie…at least we now know why Obama and the BooGod Party refuses to produce a budget.
What currency should we expect to be printed and can we get them on O-Bay soon?
Barney Francs? Harry Reidmarcs? The Nancy Pesolosi? The Won?
The American WhyMaher is upon us.
Let’s party like it’s 1929.
Looking at the national debt, it’s doubling rate (years to double) has been DECREASING. That’s a bad sign. In my business, we’re approaching a condition we call “super prompt critical.” That’s how you make a nuclear bomb go off – make the rate of fissioning increase exponentially.
Without the Fed creating money and pumping it into the economy via government bond purchases and keeping their discount rate essentially zero, interest rates would jump. When that increase happens, Congress either has to cut its spending (HA HA!) or watch it deficit increase as debt service takes up more and more of its budget. Assuming they continue to spend and hence borrow, borrowing levels increase too.
Borrowing then feeds on itself, like a junkie needing progressively higher and higher doses of opiates, levels that would kill a normal person.
We have to jump off that path to ruin and now.
That is one of the main reasons why the Fed is keeping interest rates very low–as close to zero as possible.
Because if interest rates rise, then the Federal Government won’t be able to borrow any more without a massive increase in its debt service–which is likely unsustainable.
The Federal Government has, so to speak, taken out an Adjustable Rate Mortgage (ARM) on the country, at a time when the prevailing interest rate is near zero. But you know what happens to the monthly payment when the interest rate on an ARM rises sharply.
Federal government spending is *the* reason behind everything that the Fed is doing. Bills are being printed for the sole reason that Washington demands a buyer for Treasuries so it can keep spending like it’s 1999. And I have no doubt that all of those T-bills the Fed is buying are, in the back rooms, being treated as “forgivable”. So basically it’s just the Fed creating money so the government can spend more — which is exactly the sort of thing that the Fed was created to prevent.
The Nazis had their own form of inflation, supported by plunder. A really fascinating account of the role of economics in the Nazi era is Adam Tooze’s
“The Wages of Destruction:The Making and Breaking of the Nazi Economy”. Most economics books tend to be on the dry side, this one is an exception, and it’s pretty cheap at Amazon too.
Thomas Jefferson’s Warning To America
“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.”
* Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802) and later published in The Debate Over The Recharter Of The Bank Bill (1809)
Thomas Jefferson banks, central banks, freedom American founding fathers warning!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAKSDum_biQ
Except that Jefferson said no such thing. This supposed quotation is easily disproved by checking it out at Snopes.
However, also according to Snopes, Jefferson did say something along the lines of – “And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous that standing armies; and that the principal of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale”
* Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802) and later published in The Debate Over The Recharter Of The Bank Bill (1809)
Here, I hope this helps you since you cannot operate on the web all that well!
TO THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY (ALBERT GALLATIN.) – Thomas Jefferson, The Works, vol. 11 (Correspondence and Papers 1808-1816) [1905] Edition used: The Works of Thomas Jefferson, Federal Edition (New York and London, G.P. Putnam’s Sons, 1904-5). Vol. 11. Author: Thomas Jefferson Editor: Paul Leicester Ford Part of: The Works of Thomas Jefferson, 12 vols.
http://oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=807&chapter=88007&layout=html&Itemid=27
Here’s the link since you seem unable to be able to check your sources.
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/jefferson/banks.asp
See the post one above this one with references that yours does not!! TO THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY (ALBERT GALLATIN.) – Thomas Jefferson, The Works, vol. 11 (Correspondence and Papers 1808-1816) [1905] Edition used: The Works of Thomas Jefferson, Federal Edition (New York and London, G.P. Putnam’s Sons, 1904-5). Vol. 11. Author: Thomas Jefferson Editor: Paul Leicester Ford Part of: The Works of Thomas Jefferson, 12 vols.
Snopes? Really?
Washington76, snopes.com is THE authoritative website for researching potential hoaxes. Don’t diss snopes!
Although Snopes is right most of the time, it is not always correct. I know this from personal experience — I’m mentioned no fewer than four times at Snopes (not as “zombie,” but under other names). Two of those references are false debunkings. I have written to them numerous times over the years asking for corrections, but never got a response. The errors remain there, permanently.
This likely has no relevance to this particular Jefferson quote, but I had to mntion that it isn’t 100% reliable.
The quote you referred to does not appear anywhere in the URL page that you referenced. In fact the words bank and currency appear nowhere on that page.
http://oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=757&chapter=87358&layout=html&Itemid=27
to the secretary of the treasury (albert gallatin.)
j. mss.
October 7, 1802.
The application of the Bank of Baltimore is of great importance. The consideration is very weighty that it is held by citizens, while the stock of the United States Bank is held in so great a proportion by foreigners. Were the Bank of the United States to swallow up the others and monopolize the whole banking business of the United States, which the demands we furnish them with tend shortly to favor, we might, on a misunderstanding with a foreign power, be immensely embarrassed by any disaffection in that bank. It is certainly for the public good to keep all the banks competitors for our favors by a judicious distribution of them, and thus to engage the individuals who belong to them in the support of the reformed order of things, or at least in an acquiescence under it. I suppose that on the condition of participating in the deposits the banks would be willing to make such communications of their operations and the state of their affairs as might satisfy the Secretary of the Treasury of their stability. It is recommended to Mr. Gallatin to leave such an opening in his answer to this letter, as to leave us free to do hereafter what shall be advisable on a broad view of all the banks in the different parts of the Union. * * *
Oh look, the ACTUAL letter the quote comes from.. Oh look, it’s not addressed to Albert Gallatin.. I wonder if that’s done on purpose.
http://oll.libertyfund.org/index.php?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php&title=807&search=%22futurity%22&layout=html#a_2005262
TO JOHN TAYLOR
Monticello, May 28, 1816
….
In the General Government, the House of Representatives is mainly republican; the Senate scarcely so at all, as not elected by the people directly, and so long secured even against those who do elect them; the Executive more republican than the Senate, from its shorter term, its election by the people, in practice, (for they vote for A only on an assurance that he will vote for B,) and because, in practice also, a principle of rotation seems to be in a course of establishment; the judiciary independent of the nation, their coercion by impeachment being found nugatory.
If, then, the control of the people over the organs of their government be the measure of its republicanism, and I confess I know no other measure, it must be agreed that our governments have much less of republicanism than ought to have been expected; in other words, that the people have less regular control over their agents, than their rights and their interests require. And this I ascribe, not to any want of republican dispositions in those who formed these constitutions, but to a submission of true principle to European authorities, to speculators on government, whose fears of the people have been inspired by the populace of their own great cities, and were unjustly entertained against the independent, the happy, and therefore orderly citizens of the United States. Much I apprehend that the golden moment is past for reforming these heresies. The functionaries of public power rarely strengthen in their dispositions to abridge it, and an unorganized call for timely amendment is not likely to prevail against an organized opposition to it. We are always told that things are going on well; why change them? “Chi sta bene, non si muove,” said the Italian, “let him who stands well, stand still.” This is true; and I verily believe they would go on well with us under an absolute monarch, while our present character remains, of order, industry and love of peace, and restrained, as he would be, by the proper spirit of the people. But it is while it remains such, we should provide against the consequences of its deterioration. And let us rest in the hope that it will yet be done, and spare ourselves the pain of evils which may never happen.
On this view of the import of the term republic, instead of saying, as has been said, “that it may mean anything or nothing,” we may say with truth and meaning, that governments are more or less republican as they have more or less of the element of popular election and control in their composition; and believing, as I do, that the mass of the citizens is the safest depository of their own rights, and especially, that the evils flowing from the duperies of the people, are less injurious than those from the egoism of their agents, I am a friend to that composition of government which has in it the most of this ingredient. And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale.
I salute you with constant friendship and respect.
Also known as the Cloward-Piven strategy… too bad for left/libtards it’ll mean a wholesale Road Warrior-style collapse and violence, not a happy new Amero currency and Socialism where unicorns with rainbows coming out of their butts abound.
Rather than the Road Warrior it will bring fascism. There are too many people and the government is too well armed for anarchy to take hold.
Probably more like Cyberpunk world….where there are regions of “lawlessness” (read freedom)….but most will be corporatist fascist territorial holdings.
We really have to stop this borrowing thing or we’re dead in the water. No one is going to like hearing this, but if we all don’t sacrifice and make do with less of what we were promised now, we’ll quickly reach a point where no one will have anything and it will stop cold turkey. That alternative is a scary thing if you stop and think about it. Sadly there are too many people who truly believe that we’ll never get to that point.
In fact we wouldn’t even need to suffer, if we would just follow our own Constitution. If we did, we’d abolish the EPA, OSHA, and multiple other grossly unConstitutional Fed agencies/regs that throw not sand but boulders into the gears of the economy. If we did, businesses of all size would boom, wealth would spread, the poor would benefit from employment and entrepreneurial opportunities they long have been unjustly denied, tax revenues would skyrocket, the debt would shrink and disappear. If we did, freedom would reign.
But we won’t do that. We the People are a willfully ignorant, wicked, and lazy sovereign, who can’t be bothered to read and understand our own foundational Law. This does not end well.
Wiemar Germany, even Germany under the Kaiser, had socialism that even today’s US lefties would envy. Virtually the entire workforce was unionized and had all sorts of wage adjustment devices including the interest arbitration feature of the card check legislation that US organized labor wants so badly. There was an elaborate network of social services for the unemployed and the lame, blind, and halt. The Wiemar policy of inflating their way out of the war debt actually worked pretty well. The German economy was growing dramatically as it switched to peacetime endeavors and the German people sought to make up for wartime privation. As the economy inflated, wages and conditions could inflate with it. Having been through the hyperinflation of Alaska in the Pipeline Era, I can tell you that you don’t care about inflation so long as you can “inflate” with it and afford what you want. But then came the post-WWI worldwide crash in commodity prices and industrial economies worldwide began to stumble and then crash. Germany could not add wealth to keep its citizens happy and massive social unrest followed. It could easily have led to a Soviet aligned communist government, the Wiemar government wasn’t that far from one and was HATED by the German business/owner class. The NSDAP following Mussolini’s lead and went to business and assured them that they would respect private ownership of business and property so long as the owners “coordinated” their actions with the NSDAP’s policies. Business allied with the NSDAP, the NSDAP eliminated the communists, and the rest is history.
The extending, pretending, bailouting, printing and the spending WILL continue until total economic collapse forces it to stop and not a second before.
Washington has lost control of it’s spending and CANNOT rein it in.
We are at the end of the great American experiment, by the end of the next 4 years the United States WILL be a larger and poorer version of Argentina in 2001.
The PetroDollar is under attack by DESIGN! Currently, the dollar has been debased by 96% since the founding of the Fed in 1913. The dollar will NOT survive another year much less another four years of Obama and his TRILLION dollar deficits.
Folks, we are in deep trouble. If the dollar crashes and the gold is confiscated once again, there will be death and dying in the streets by the millions.
By my economic models, we were fatally wounded back in 08, we just dont know it yet!! The crash of our fiat currency is INEVITABLE!
I’m a high school economics teacher operating deep in liberal la-la land. I try all the time to point out to liberal colleagues that maybe rampant inflation (which is the eternal outcome of the Keynesian policies they love) is not actually all that compassionate to the poor, or anyone else for that matter who isn’t rich enough to invest their assets elsewhere.
They don’t get it. They don’t want to.
especially when everyone alive will be a millionaire and billionaire when it takes $250,000k to buy some groceries
then the libs can tax everyone 100%
brilliant
In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don’t work you die.”
—Rudyard Kipling, “The Gods of the Copybook Headings”
It’s interesting that some of the ascending notes on exhibit apparently stemmed from different nongovernmental issuers. The 2,000,000-Mark note was issued by the organizing body of the Leipzig exhibition and trade fair; the 5,000,000-Mark note shown stood on the authority of the Leipzig city council; the 10,000,000-Mark item was to be cashed with the bursar of the Imperial railway and was seemingly issued over the signature of the Minister of Transport! So were there indeed multiple private issuers for a little while?
Good question! Hope an expert comes along to answer it.
When the currency began to melt down cities and states started issuing their own currency for use in their own districts.
There has been some statements in these comments about the German economy of the time that seem to forget the historic context. The war ended at the end of 1918 (famously on the eleventh hour, of the eleventh day, of the eleventh month.) The German and Austrian economies had been wrecked by the war. To make matters worst, they was then blockaded and their empires had been broken up, so they did not have access to the resources like they once did. Austria,for example was unable to get food from the farm lands of Czechoslovakia as it used to depend on. Things were then even worst when the allies forced them to pay war reparations. France did not want the worthless Marks, so they invaded and took over the German coal mines and shipped the coal back to France. The population of Germany and Austria were starving and freezing to death. They had become so pitiful that there were humanitarian drives to collect the old castaway clothes to send to Germany. This gets us to the early 20′s when the printing presses start cranking out the Marks.
“France did not want the worthless Marks, so they invaded and took over the German coal mines and shipped the coal back to France. The population of Germany and Austria were starving and freezing to death”
The decision to invade the Ruhr was taken by France and Belgium, because they couldn’t get paid, not because of worthless Marks, until the 1923 occupation such Marks weren’t edited.
If the population were starving and freezing, it wasn’t the fault of the occupying troops, rather because Germany suffered of large communist strikes and disorganisation. Lost Colonies played no role then
http://nowandfutures.com/weimar.html
Germany agreed to pay the handsome sum of £6.6 billion in reparations over fifty years. The burden was not quite as onerous as it appeared, however, as the Allies were not expecting all the reparations to be paid in cash. Surrendered military equipment … coal, timber (etc) could be used as credit against the reparations debt. … Both Britain and Germany had a national debt of £7.5 billion in 1918. Germany’s depreciating internal currency had eliminated three-quarters of its internal debt by 1921. France’s slightly smaller £6.4 billion debt been swelled by the unrepaid costs of repairing wartime devastation. So the demand for £6.6 billion from the Germans did not seem so large
The whole of Germany’s payments to the Allies so far … have been discharged by the losses of foreign speculators’. (However, he was prejudiced against France)
-http://howhitlercametopower.com/how-hitler-came-to-power-excerpts/war-reparations-requests-and-nonpayments/
It seems that Germany cheated on her true economical situation which wasn’t so bad (she hadn’t been ruined by battle fields like France and Belgium)
-http://howhitlercametopower.com/how-hitler-came-to-power-excerpts/german-economic-strength-1920-1932/
Our government has become the enemy.
This is an interesting article. I believe you could make a good argument that the German government intentionally ruined the value of the mark. The question is why? Weimar Germany owed huge amounts of money to Britain, France, and the USA, It did not borrow the money to spend on social programs, it was war reparations. The Treaty of Versailles demanded reparations from Germany greater than the value of the entire country.
Look at the mark; it used foreign currency to back the value of itself. The dollar, the pound, and I believe also the franc, still used gold to back these currencies. Germany could not; the Treaty of Versailles demanded German gold reserves as war reparations. The mark was vulnerable to inflation and with a little help of a government trying not pay it’s reparations, you get Weimar Germany and run away inflation.
Weimar used foreign currency to back its mark, a little hiccup and it is off to the races with inflation. The question for the USA, will we follow Weimar Germany, if we do, we will not have their excuse of having lost a war. Wait! We won the war on terror did we not, or was that the war on poverty, war on drugs?
The war reparations were a excuse, Germany had no intention to pay, because she never acknowledged the responsability of the war
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_231_of_the_Treaty_of_Versailles
You are right Germany had no intentions to pay; however, intentions are one thing and what happens is another. France wanted to make sure Germany never rose back to power, so reparations were paid. The full amount was never paid and eventually the U.S. pushed to have the reparations forgiven. The remaining parts of the treaty it self was abrogated with the rise of Hitler.
I forgot to say Weimar Germany inflated its currency as a response in order not to pay.
The French knew the mark was worthless, so the invaded, took over the coal mines and shipped the the coal back to France. That resulted in the death of many Germans and Austrians.
To Randy CA,
I think we are getting lost in the weeds here. The view of the article and what I was trying to agree with. Governments can wreck their economies when forced to pay for things they cannot afford. How the USA got here does not matter, like Weimar, we owe a huge amount to foreign sources. How will we pay? This article is a warning about a way the FED seems to be following.
Yes, sure, that is why all of this is so relevant.
When no one wants to lend the Federal government any more money, the drunken sailors in congress will have two choices:
1.Sober up and cut all federal spending in about half (pink slips to half of all federal employees, Social Security checks cut in half, cut the military budget in half, etc.)and suffer the resulting anger of more than half the country
Or…
2. Start up the printing presses, and blame the resulting runaway inflation on greedy businessmen.
You don’t need to know much about the world to know which is the most likely.
“That resulted in the death of many Germans and Austrians”
no, if Germans died it’s because they stroke and attacked the French and Belgian troops
http://rha.revues.org/index6333.html
the most outraging for the Germans were the occupation colonial troops, called “black shame”, it was felt as the ultime humiliation
Don’t see any Austrian around the Ruhr though
Fifteen percent of America is currently on food stamps. When those dollars become worthless people will blame Bernanke and the Jews. Riots will ensue. Islam spreads through poverty. As local mosques become the only place children can get a meal Islam in America will expand exponentially. We are two generations at best from Sharia Law in America. The Jews will take the blame and the Obama Plan will have ben fulfilled. Thats all folks.
Then tell your brethren to move to Israel while they still can, because once the persecution starts, travel will be extremely difficult. We Catholics will hold down the fort so long as we are able, but that won’t be very long if Obamacare stands.
Same question I asked elsewhere: If the Fed’s purchase of new gov’t bonds amounts to monetizing our federal debt, does the purchase of MBS’s (mortgage backed securities) amount to monetizing private debt? If so, who gains besides banks and Wall Street gamblers, and those who bought homes they couldn’t afford?
Note that, as I understand it, the Fed doesn’t buy bonds directly from the gov’t, but from banks- who I would assume profit from the purchase/resale. Same deal w/ MSB’s?
I think the answer to your question is “yes”, but likely the biggest beneficiary at this point in time is Freddie’s Fanny, i.e. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. (The crony bankers definitely benefitted from being able to sell their worthless MBS’s to Freddie’s Fanny, but that’s already a sunk cost.) If the federal government foreclosed on the mortgages backing these MBS’s, the property values would come nowhere close to covering the face value of the securities — I’m guessing that when you figure in market conditions in the areas where most of these MBS’s come from, plus usual government inefficiencies, they’d be lucky to get 20% back. The losses, were they ever to be realized, would probably add $4-5T to the debt instantly.
Having the Fed buy the MBS’s and hold them indefinitely makes the whole problem just disppear. It creates an enormous long-term problem since it clouds the titles of all of these properties, but nobody’s thinking that far ahead, and it makes Obama look good right now.
Just one more step along the path ofnslow motion socialism, like everything else this government has been doing – auto industry bailout, student loan takeover, bank bailouts, Obamacare, massive stimulus to prop up government jobs…
The “spectre” of deflation (as hyped by media and most “modern economists”) is a myth. For a dose of reality, check out Detlev Schlichter’s PaperMoneyCollapse website and book. He’s of the Austrian School of Economics (free market… a REALLY free market), and has analyzed how far we’re up the proverbial creek without visible means of transport.
Yeah, the real irony is that the Fed’a actions may be propping up prices, but they have failed to do anything about wage deflation. Thus, for the last two years, American families have, in effect, been experiencing stagflation.
“American families have, in effect, been experiencing stagflation.” Notice how the “Democrat-Media Complex” is completely silent on this issue. No outrage over gasoline prices; nothing on the increase of food prices; NOTHING.
I have actually seen an old black and white photo of a poor dirty german child sitting in the gutter playing with huge blocks of bills, using them for play as if they were Lego blocks.
Like it was implied in the article – if you wanted to buy a loaf of bread, you needed a wheelbarrow to transport the necessary bills to the baker. When people received their days pay, they didnt wait until next day to use the money – they went straight out and bought something, anything. It didnt matter what they bought for their pay – they just needed to buy something that could be traded for what they actually needed.
One feature of the Weimar hyperinflation so far unmentioned, as far as I can tell, is that during it a rabble rouser in Munich attempted to take over the city government by force. He was hoping all the disaffected and enraged Germans would rally to him and put him in charge, as Italians had done the previous year at Mussolini’s March on Rome. Instead, the police shot down eighteen of his followers and put him on trial. He was convicted, though admirers filled his jail cell with flowers, and served six months of a five years sentence, during which he wrote his political manifesto, “Mein Kampf.” Ten years later, he was Chancellor of Germany.
Any OWS types in prison writing autobiographies yet?
The major difference here is that German inflationary pressure was ALSO exacerbated by two extreme contributing factors: ridiculous payments they had to make to France and Britain as part of the Treaty of Versailles, and the Great Depression.
Inflationary measures are a big step, and we should be wary of overusing such measures. But with the global economy getting back into pretty good shape, and our reduction in expenses over those two worthless wars, there’s no reason something like this should devolve into a crisis of confidence in the dollar – which is always the ultimate cause of hyperinflation.
no
Germany could pay, but didn’t want to
http://howhitlercametopower.com/how-hitler-came-to-power-excerpts/german-economic-strength-1920-1932/
-http://howhitlercametopower.com/how-hitler-came-to-power-excerpts/war-reparations-requests-and-nonpayments/
See also:
Fiat Money Inflation in France
Andrew Dickson White (1832-1918)
View this video and seek the similarities of today! Hyperinflation 1923
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4KsREg_IU8&feature=related
Jun 9, 2008 A teaching resource to support an explantion of the economic process of inflation; how the Weimar Government reacted and how it contributed to the Year of Crisis 1923
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI1i5yhwOz8&feature=endscreen
Thanks for the story This is truly disgusting, the Federal Reserve trying to improve the economy during Obama’s presidency. They should at least wait until President Romney is in office. We are clearly in an era of hyper-inflation, just like Wiemar Germany and the Fed is doing everything they can to exacerbate the situation. They are trying to bring about a socialist revolution. Clearly.
I’m holding out for the Billion-Zillion-Trillion bill with the Obama/Biden pictures on them
I disagree with one point in the article. In truth, the money supply GREW during the Great Depression. The myth has become that the money supply did not grow fast enough. That is incorrect. The Federal Reserve did, in fact, inflate the money supply. Nevertheless, the Federal Reserve and the federal government caused the depression; it was not an inherent “flaw” in the capitalist system.
Ben Bernanke is an idiot. This will not end well…
Buy gold, silvers, guns, and ammunition. Stock up on food, candles, and cigarettes (to trade).
This is an invaluable book dealing with hyper-inflation:
When Money Dies: The nightmare of the Weimar Hyper-Inflation
Adam Fergusson (Author)
Highly recommended!
We need look at the examples of Hungary following WW2; Zimbabwe recently, and Argentina only yesterday to see the destruction that beaucrats and bankers can wreck. If you do not invest in gold, silver, and lead, you will regret it. These are not investments, they are insurance.
Gold is up 12% soi far this year, how much interest do you get at your bank?
Our lords and masters are going to print 80 billion a month to buy worthless mortgages. This is an indefinite process. When the people realize the US dollar is worth the same as monopoly money where do you wish to be?
A similar fate does await the Unite States of America. But it will not be the over printing of money to pay off those we owe debts to, but to pay for the multidecade vacations that perfectly healthy and capable of working elderly demand. Even supposed conservatives believe they are OWED social security and medicare. Romney and Ryan promise to preserve socialism for generations to come.
Republican party, Preservative since 2012.
We are actually in heavy inflation right now. Who believes the stock market is worth what it is selling for today?
A recent CNBC article discussed a very interesting report from the Bank of England about the effects of quantitative easing…. It said that the Bank of England’s policies of quantitative easing – similar to the Fed’s – had benefited mainly the wealthy. Specifically, it said that its QE program had boosted the value of stocks and bonds by 26 percent, or about $970 billion. It said that about 40 percent of those gains went to the richest 5 percent of British households. Many said the BOE’s easing added to social anger and unrest. Dhaval Joshi, of BCA Research wrote that “QE cash ends up overwhelmingly in profits, thereby exacerbating already extreme income inequality and the consequent social tensions that arise from it.” Wow. Who benefits from quantitative easing? According to the Bank of England, it is “mainly the wealthy” who benefit.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/49031991
Milton Friedman uses a pencil to illustrate how the free market price system promotes cooperation and harmony among those with no common interest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ERbC7JyCfU&feature=player_embedded
“The Great Depression, like most other periods of severe unemployment, was produced by government mismanagement rather than by any inherent instability of the private economy.” Milton Friedman