Election Night Open Comments Thread
November 6th, 2012 - 5:31 pm
Have at it, kids — I had to close comments on the main post to save our server.
Have at it, kids — I had to close comments on the main post to save our server.
– on what, Stephen? You lead.
OK, Thanks heavens for the drunk blogging, best medicine against electoral tachycardia.
Cheers!
Shoulda upgraded to the Amiga 3000 when you had the chance. That thing was a barn burner.
Amiga was my favorite machine. 2000+63000+16Meg+scsi-ii … and a Bridgeboard 386 to run TeX and Ghostscript as a print server. I wanted a BeeBox but never got one.
Bulleit and Coke Zero for now….Bulleit alone depending on how things go.
Bulleit is my new favorite bourbon. Makes an outstanding Old Fashioned if you keep it simple.
Yes, and $6-7 dollars cheaper than Maker’s Mark, another fave.
Bulleit Rye is superior!!!
Yes it is. Makes a fabulous Manhattan. Also great straight with an ice cube or two. Bulleit is my new fave bourbon. George Dickel is my favorite sour mash whiskey.
You’re on the money with Bulleit manhattans. Though, I love Dickel because it tastes like Life cereal. And surprisingly enough, Kirkland brand bourbon from Costco actually compares well against Makers any day.
I’m a Cardiology nurse, I can tell you that as a depressant, in theory alcohol MAY have a slowing effect on the heart, short term… until the alcoholic cardiomyopathy sets in! But it’s biggest benefit may come from it’s blood thinning effect, thus preventing us from stroking out!
CHEERS!
Cheers!
^^^ MEDICINE HATH SPOKEN!!
Knob Creek here, on ice so it goes down quicker. *glug* *glug* *glug*
Purely MEDICINAL, DAMN IT.
And SC was the first state to secede. RACIST!
So tense. Drinking an Adam Carolla Mangria right now.
What the hell is going on in FL? Are the returns we’re seeing expected at this point? Obama’s up by 3, with 25% of the vote in.
I’m about to have a heart attack.
Fox just said that Obama’s ahead in the I-4 corridor from EV/AB, and NRO is saying Romney’s underperforming there.
I’ve got a bad feeling about this….
Cripes. I keep forgetting that the FL panhandle is still open.
I need to calm down….
So why is even Fox calling Florida?
Hey, I can lend my TRS-80 color computer to help with the servers. It has 16K of RAM!
I’ll jump in… I cant help but shout at the TV during comparisons between now and 2008. I think 2008 models should be thrown out!!! Obama is not the same candidate “god” as he was in 2008. I think we should be looking at the difference between 2008-2010 elections and extrapolating them to 2012!!
Nothing has changed since 2010, except ppl are more disgusted with BHO…
What say y’all?
What’s in YOUR glass?
Dalwhinnie and a touch of ice.
I’ve got champagne on ice for a victory and scotch and bourbon for a loss.
And they wondered why I bought two bottles of Abunad’h yesterday.
Pins needles tonight, with single malt taking off the edge.
I haven’t seen Frank chime in…sometimes he’s as prognosticatingly accurate as Barone…
Hey, my fellow Hoosiers woke up from their 2008 binge vote and voted like mature grownups this time!
6:40 CST. Fox News calles South Carolina for Romney. They reported 4000 votes for Obama and 1200 for Romney, but what the heck, paint SC red.
C’mon guys. Find a reason to paint Virginia red. Puleeeze. I can’t take it. Pizza’s not here yet, one drink down already, and my confident optimism deserted while Britt Hume spoke in measured tones.
I purchased champagne yesterday. Don’t let it be the hubris drink. Thanks Stephen, for what you do.
Right now it’s 49-3 in favor of Romney… is it wrong of me to be happy about this even though it’s WAAAAAAAY premature? Maybe I’m just desperate for good news…
According to the PJ Tatler, Romney currently has 24 electoral votes, Obama has 3. Let us all pray that that ratio continues for the rest of the election!
I’ve had a bad feeling about tonight for a long time… I keep hoping, but the numbers just don’t change…
Then don’t listen to Bill O’Reilly. He’s pure Eey-ore.
I’m going to be sick if these reporters don’t stop saying Obama won early voting in Florida. Democrats always win early voting. How does it compare to 4 years ago?
Greg,
Dems always vote early. Republicans have to wait till they get off work.
(Ba-dum-pum)
Hope that helps.
That’s exactly my point though. I Obama won the early vote 4 years ago by 15 and is winning today by 5, that’s actually useful information. Similarly, if he’s winning by 15 again, I can put down the glass and start drinking from the bottle.
My kid in CO says most of his college classmates haven’t voted. He says they’re very “meh”. His profs have, however.
How does Florida have results if their polls don’t close until 8:00eastern time?
I understand that in some Philadelphia precincts turnout is 105%.
Night of the Living Dead?
It looks good for the R here in Scott county Iowa.
Drink for an Obama victory is a ‘Marion Berry’.
Bourbon
Jaegermeister
Spiced rum (preferably 151)
Kahlua
Invented by Jonah Goldberg et al in honor of the last DC mayoral election that went to Mr. Berry
Recommendations for a Romney victory drink?
Teh missus and I have a bottle of sparkling blueberry grape juice chilling in Governor Romney and Congressman Ryan’s honor. =^[.]^=
Lemonade? Guy is a teetotaler, not even caffeine. The horror.
Tanqueray Martini, Churchill style. (Look at the Vermouth whilst pouring the gin.)
Rocks, three olives (anchovy stuffed if you got ‘em).
Simple.
Elegant.
So Republican.
I’m with a normal red wine. Simplicity
I may upgrade to limoncello later, tho
X,
A poster after my own heart. Red wine and limoncello for me as well.
Being a minister, I seldom partake of alcohol but tonight I am sitting here with a bottle of home brewed mead to sooth my tight nerves.
This is going to be a long night.
Amen, Reverend!
Sage words.
Amen
Keep calm. Keep calm.
Cnn just flashed Romney ahead in Florida.
Romney played the long game during the campaign; we can do the same through tonight’s wait.
Keep calm; maintain faith.
love the total confusion on the cnn spokesmodels faces regarding florida
O ye of little faith. All is coming along swimmingly. FL just flipped.
Chill.
FLA was freaking me out, but then, that’s part of the fun
My state called for Romney! My vote did it.
We’ll feel good here in Norman if Romney gets over 67%. Hope we break 70% mark.
Switching to scotch after the pizza.
“6:18PM: Late voting in VA. People in line won’t be turned away. It’s gonna be a long night in VA.”
That’s a good sign! That intensity is all on our side! =^[.]^=
Too much bloviating, not enough reporting on FNC. I won’t watch the others for fear of my blood pressure going red before Texas does…
Tullamore Dew 10 yr. old. This is my first election with the Scotsman DCE33 pumping out crystal clear ice for celebrating.
O.M.G. John Harris of Politico just called us all racists again.
CSPAN just lost all my respect.
Meh.
And proud of it, damnit!
I’m in VA, and I heard a guy a few days ago on a call in state that the NoVA Gov’t workers were not pleased with the sequestration and were breaking heavily away from the President
I took a chance & looked at Matthews/Maddow. I think the bloviating migrated to MSNBC, already with near direct allegations of voter suppression in Florida.
Nice to know that Chris Matthews & Charlie Crist have such high regard for one another though…
I’m going to need another bottle of single malt…
Yeah, I expected OK to stay red. I bet we do beat the percentage from last time. I’ve switched to the Thunder game, while waiting for the next batch of states to be called.
Talisker, 10 yr. Just to sip on. Laphroaig later, 10 yr to get drunk and cry, Quarter Cask to celebrate.
The Golden Age of the Era of HopeyChangey ends tonight!
Just saw this at Insty’s place….”Find out tonight which will crash first, PJM’s server, or Steve Green’s liver.”
My money is on your liver. Just saying.
*snort* That Amiga he’s using for a server is already creaking.
Yes, esteemed host. How fareth the liver??
His liver is FINE. Alcohol preserves.
Well, R’s picked up another House seat – 6th District in KY, Chandler is out, Andy Barr is in per Lexington Herald Leader with 98% in.
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…anyone else??
Daily Caller EC votes R67 O64, PJmedia 88/78
Warstein before the polls closed, Chardonnay with dinner, now the old sod for the duration.
Help me, Pajamanauts! I don’t drink (not a conviction thing, I just can’t assimilate anything stronger than Moscato) and I’m PETRIFIED. Somebody tell me that G-d didn’t take Andrew Breitbart early so that he could be spared this misery…
When the bell rings to signify Romney’s victory, Andrew gets his wings.
I’m liking AP’s numbers:
EV 67 Romney, 64 O
Senate R 38, D 35
House R 55, D 27
Governors R 27, D 14
Cheers! to our genial host, for handling all this traffic, and being a (hard)working dad, too! =^[.]^=
44% of the Florida vote in, and Obama leads by 1.8%.
That is not good.
Just saw your personal note Stephen, and you are the hardest drinking man in the blogosphere. Hope you and your family feel better soon.
Oh, and thanks for doing these things
You da man, Steve!
Maybe a bit skinnier than you were about 24 hours ago, but still the man!
Seriously? I dropped three pounds in 12 hours. It’s a nasty little bug.
Geez. Not like you can exactly afford it, either.
Me? Yeah, I’d go for 3 pounds in 24 hours. And then 3 more. And then 3 more….
I’ll get back to you in a week and let you know how I’m feeling!
Hang in there.
“This too shall pass” is probably not the best buck-m-up quote to throw at you though, is it?
The 12 step all alcohol diet. 6 steps to the liquor cabinet, 6 steps back. Melts the pounds away.
– the Trolls are coming.
Forget Lincoln, brush up on your Les Miserables.
Every man for himself!
Lets be honest here. The only thing that matters are swing states.
So what happens when who reports?
We’ve given up on Nevada, so if that goes to Obama we’re okay.
Minnesota won’t be too hard to swallow either.
But the remaining are all states we think Romney has a good shot in, and we’ll take it as a demoralizing message if any one of them reports in for Obama.
If Pennsylvania or Wisconsin go for Romney, we’ll be giddy with joy.
If they go to Obama… we’re just going to spend all night and all day tomorrow biting our nails as we count down the different paths closing off to Romney.
My suggestion, to myself and everybody (one I likely will not follow). Is to stop following. Ignore it for now. If you hear through the grapevine that Wisconsin, Colorado, Ohio or Pennsylvania go Romney, you’ll be relieved. If you hear anything else, you’ll be caught in the terrible stress of being simultaneously demoralized and hopeful.
Save yourselves! Take a shower, play a videogame, do something distracting and mind-numbing!
Hi Steve,
I’m drunk-reading from Monument tonight. I think Romney’s got Colorado locked down.
Peter
On this side, I’m on a yogurt and JB.
They’re worried at Powerline. They were hoping we’d be comfy about Florida and Virginia right now and obsessing on Ohio. Looks like we’re going to have to obsess on FL and VA and get the hara-kiri knives poised for OH.
I don’t get this. Fox calls MI for O with 9% reporting.
Booker’s Bourbon… here we go.
Chuck Todd says both sides are predicting narrow Romney win in FL.
That sounds right.
> Who’s the hardest woking man in the blogosphere?
Probably someone with an Asian sounding name?
Probably, yeah.
I’m either going to have a heart attack or throw up.
Yeah, I’m not buying into this serenity shit either. Holy crap, is this painful.
It may be your yogurt / JB cocktail…..
CBS slots Wisconsin as “leaning blue.”
Florida had something wacky in the count. It went from a 1.8% lead for Obama to a dead heat with an increase of about 5% of the vote. I’m glad to see it in a dead heat now (or close) but that is mathematically implausible. They must have corrected a count somewhere.
I’m not sure why Virginia hasn’t been called for Romney yet. There must be some big inner city districts which haven’t reported yet.
Northern Virginia is reportedly Blue Country, so they need to wait for those returns.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/06/key-virginia-county-short-on-voting-machines-could-keep-polls-open-past-midnight/
Possibly open til two AM. However- Are the residents of the “DC exurbs” gonna have the intensity to stick around that late, in the cold? =0[.]o=
NBC calls it for Elizabeth Warren.
The Pocahontas vote wins the day in MA.
Guys, I don’t have anywhere ELSE to go. HOW CAN PEOPLE? HOW CAN THEY?
Under desk. Drinking,
Fox just called PA for O.
oh god. Pennsylvania goes O.
You are indeed the hardest woking … wha? Usually, it’s you. I’ve had a hard-to-shake cold for a week, now, finally getting a bit better. Orange Juice and sleep.
Oh great, right now Florida is within 200 votes. If we have a repeat of 2000 I don’t think what remains of my sanity will survive. My liver will look for asylum in Canada.
What the heck? How can they call a state that was basically even with only 5% reporting? This is crazy.
Something SERIOUSLY wrong.
90% of the population could be one way
deer park water here
O’s up in all the battlegrounds except Florida.
Wait, NC has a teeny edge for Romney.
A little more power to the engines, Scotty.
I’m pretty sure the earlier numbers from Florida were from early voting. We know more Dem ballots were cast. They are very aggressive with early voting. Should start looking better for Romney now that they are counting today’s votes. Of course it all depends on which counties come in faster.
Ok, NOW I’m freaking nervous. Nothing is breaking red. States are getting called for Obama after only single digit precincts reporting and VA and FL are still hanging. What is happening?
NC and FL are pink.
I don’t drink but right now I wish I did.
Stephen, why is O up is Colorado?
And he’s waaaaaaayy up in Wisconsin.
Holy god. Obama gets Wisconsin.
I was all set to make a big pitcher of mimosas with Florida grown oranges. Now I’m holding off to make sure Florida isn’t letting me down. I’m pretty confident, but this is Florida, you know.
Those idiot seniors want Obamacare?
I don’t know about anybody else, but I get the feeling that Fox is stage managing this whole thing. They give MI and PA to O way prematurely, and then they call a bunch of no-brainer red states with 0% reporting like WY just to keep the score interesting.
Phooey.
I don’t think so. Get ready.
WI to O.
And Obama has a 10-point lead in the early tabulated vote in OH. Get ready.
I’m going to find cyanide.
You don’t mind sharing it when you find it, do you?
Wisconsin is declared Obama on http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2012-election-results/ yet Romney is up 56% to 43?
Something is deeply wrong with that map.
Michael Barone’s prediction is collapsing.
Mine, too. There’s going to be some serious soul-searching about how I misread either the electorate, or the Obama campaign.
Well, I thought WI would be the one to get us over 270. Now it’s down to OH + something else, assuming VA and FL go red.
I think Mourdock’s loss in Indiana may be a clue. But I don’t think the Republicans will get it.
I totes don’t get these calls. How can you call a county if it has zero percent in, for example? I hope Fox isn’t trying to scoop, they will look stupid and decrease their viewership from premature heart attacks.
Thank God our liquor stores here in Alberta are open until 2 a.m. …
Where’s Stephen? I need somebody who knows numbers to tell me where we stand! =@[.]@=
What I fear is that Bill Whittle was wrong: Wrong that Conservatives outnumber the children who have been running the USA into the ground by 2:1; and especially, wrong that this might be the last election in which we have a chance to win, in spite of all the fraud the Progs can commit.
Either we aren’t all we think we are, or the Progs have already gamed our election system to their absolute advantage, in spite of EVERY indication that Obama ought have NO chance to win. =’[.]‘=
They want free stuff.
So, Silver might have been right after all? Screw it: time to refill.
My goodness, I’m going limoncello right now. That or a heart attack
Hmmm, frankly CNN is holding back on the projections. Like that.
Everyone, take a deep breath. Just because some news network can use a virtual crayon to color in the blanks doesn’t make it so.
Seriously, take a walk around the block. Just wait for this to play out. I still have hope.
All over but the shouting. Both the election and our nation.
Good night.
They have to be basing it all on exit polls, which will be BS, of course. Just wait for the actual results, y’all. There is no way FL is close, for example. Panhandle hasn’t even closed, yet. Stupid exit polls. Dewey-wins nonsense.
Umm, Panhandle closed almost two hours ago.
There were three hour lines in Santa Rosa County when the polls closed. The Panhandle is bright red.
I thought the only polls still open in FL were in the south, which is blue. Aren’t all the red counties in the Panhandle already accounted for? Did I miss something?
Hmm. Rumblings about WI being called too soon.
Romney is UP in Wisconsin!
Don’t look at the projections, look at the votes!
I don’t know why Fox News is playing terror against us :/
Sherrod Brown wins in Ohio.
Relax, people, we are getting information overload. It was a lot more fun when I was a girl (1980s) and we stood around on the courthouse lawn waiting for our county returns to come in; they were written on a massive chalkboard. Wonder if they still do that? Good times, no tweets. (I realize exactly how old this makes me sound.)
Starting to get news flashes that futures are dropping on news that O is pulling ahead.
Color me shocked.
There goes New Hampshire. Good night, and . . . maybe good-bye. I’m probably going to stay away from the news for the next four years.
Okay, guys, help me. I chose America. I chose it for the constitution and the founding principles. If we don’t have that, what are we? What am I?
HELP ME.
Sarah, it would seem we are the 47% that’s left of what you thought America was.
No one can help us now, Sarah. I am so very sorry. We are an endangered species in a world dominated by a few who want to rule, using multitudes who want to be ruled.
My family could conceivably go to Israel, but that will be trussed on a platter for the Muslim Brotherhood in two or three years from now.
I am clinging to Karl Rove like a life raft for now.
Thank you for all you did at Instapundit, Sarah. You are a rock, and I am proud to be on your side. I suppose it’s not over yet, but this is no landslide, and if it isn’t a landslide, it’s a loss for the cause of liberty. I am disgusted with the other half of America (including members of my own family who should be smart enough to know better) – it has become a country I don’t recognize anymore. If Barack Obama does not deserve to lose this election in a crushing landslide, who does? How could you find a worse candidate and politician? What happened to sanity? I wish you well, Sarah. Resist Socialism! We’ll win in the end because they can only collapse under their own weight, but the struggle will be long and the cost will be stupefying now.
I am so ashamed of my family members that have drunk the blue koolaid putting their self-interest above the country. If red does not prevail, this nation’s twilight has begun lead by a party that hates liberty and loves socialism. May God have mercy on our children. Goodnight.
Try free stuff, white guilt and it’s the US of A, the party and cash won’t end, because in their lifetimes it never has.
It’s revenge time, folks.
I’ve already started paring my portfolio.
EPIC wipeout for Republicans. I wonder if they’ll ‘win’ even a single race.
Instead a truly legendary slate of crooks, liars, and outright frauds are being ‘elected’ across the country in an ‘election’ that makes Zimbabwe’s worst look honest.
How long will we allow ourselves to endure this sort of criminal rule?
Orion
Sorry, they didn’t steal this. We gave it away. The Mourdock loss is a hint.
The GOP got wiped out worse in the 2008 election, and they came back in 2010.
There were some people who thought an Obama victory (more contested and narrower compared to 2008) would be blessing in disguise. If Obamacare is as ruinous as argued and the nation’s mood turns, then the Republicans might have a better chance with candidates like Rubio or Christie in 2016.
I agree with what George Will said a few weeks ago. The nation’s isn’t dead because Obama is reelcted, we just have to fight harder. The Americans will just have to experience the fallout of Obamacare firsthand. You have to get hurt to change, and this is one of those times.
What you’re saying amounts to:
Sure, the cancer’s terminal, but just think of the really cool drugs you’ll get to sample!
Dude. Wake up. This was the biggest election grab in history, as I predicted – they were even MORE blatant than I predicted. They threw it in our FACES that they were stealing it blind and no one is going to do a thing about it.
They OWN you. We are now a fully Communist nation complete with the rubber-stamp Supreme Soviet and Pravda. They aren’t even bothering with the illusion of a free election any more. When I saw the Obama posters in the polling places, the election workers wearing Obama garb, the election workers voting people’s ballots FOR them it became plain. Even Saddam’s Iraq hid their fraud better.
Orion
Should I turn the flag in front of my house upside down now or wait until morning?
Romney could’ve gotten to Obama’s left on the various wars. Instead he cast his lot with the neocon warmongers.NOBODY wants to keep this nonsense up. The worst times in the debates were when Romney and Ryan spouted gibberish about Iraq and Afghanistan and “winning”.
I voted for Romney, but I cringed at his speaking ability, even more than with either of the George Bush’s. In the soundbites he was always taking something Obama said and making a cutesy turn-of-phrase on it. He’s a much more substantial and serious man than that, but it never consistently came out. I think that is why this is so close.
Second theory: 80 to 90% of the people have good-enough jobs, but they know it would be tough if they were to lose it. Even if they found a job in a different city, what would they do with their house? That makes them extremely averse to change.
Looks like we’re going to have to try the Benghazi impeachment route. Upside is that President Biden jokes will be fertile ground.
Womb over economics. That’s what it is.
As soon as I saw that stupid storm I knew the women would be in hysterics. (the wishy washy ones anyway)
Yes, that’s what it is. That is exactly what it is. I don’t know what clearer message there could be that we should leave the womb to churches, families, religious schools, and other private institutions and keep it out of government.
This kind of comments is exactly why a majority of women vote for the Dems. Actually it’s shocking that so many women vote for the Repubs in spite of that. I pitty American women having to choose between these two types of slavery – socialism or male supremacism. If you had any sense you’d give up on this. Women are not going back to the old bondage, you can’t change that, so instead of just ranting about it and turning female voters off, why not accept reality so you could appeal to more female voters and perhaps save your country?
These projections by the networks are killing me, I had to turn the TV off. On Fox they say Dems win Wisconsin with 7% of the precincts in. They base it off of “exit polls”. The 2 magic words right there.
Look at the bright side; If Obama wins, all those people
who thought Romney was going to save the situation will
realize that they have to save it themselves.
They called MI with 18% of the precincts reporting and only a 51-48 split? This is not over. I’m smelling stinky exit polls.
– America. Putin, hurry up and conquer us. Iran, hurry up and attack Israel.
Hey, there’s a glimmer of hope. If the world goes up in a nuclear holocaust, we won’t have to endure 4 more years of the clown show…and the Roaches can finally have their day.
Of course, they already own DC. Thank GOD er, I mean Obama, that we can FINALLY bury Government of the people, by the people, and for the people and get back to our natural state: Slavery. It was just a stupid concept of a bunch of dead white males anyway.
Long Live the American Union of Soviet Socialist States! Where all will be provided for you, comrade. From your food to your news to your very thoughts! You will be well cared for and lack for nothing….but freedom.*
Let’s watch the USA – I mean AUSSS turn into the world’s biggest housing projects. Those turned out SO well.
Orion
* And possibly food. And water. And shelter. And power. if you happen to be unfortunate enough to live in the path of a big storm. Or live in a ‘flyover’ area. Or irritate those in the Capitol. Other rules and conditions may apply.
Townhall.com has a better map with running tallies. Scroll over the map for current reporting of actual tallies.
http://townhall.com/election/
Yes,
I like Townhall’s map much better. I can’t believe you people throwing in the towel when there is less than 50% of the tally in!
I want to believe, I truly do, but this shouldn’t have been this close. Obama is a terrible President and it seems he will be re-elected with an underwater approval rating and an unemployment rate worse than when he took office. What are those voters thinking?
I’m with you 100%, J.R. This should not have been close, and I have to admit that my gut feeling failed utterly. I expected Romney to win easily with around 53% of the vote. This is inexplicable to me. My country is inexplicable to me. It’s a third-world nation now.
I’m with Marc Malone, I’ve been checking on Townhall all evening. The running total is much more understandable than listening to any of the news stations,including Fox. There isn’t any guess work going on, it’s the actual running tallies. It also doesn’t subject you to any of the talking heads blathering on.
http://townhall.com/election/
My dad always tells me, “You know boy, you are lucky to be born in the greatest country in history”. He should know, coming here after a life of great struggle in India. I always believed him – until now. I dont think I would be able to say the same to my kid when I have one. My fellow countrymen have sold our country short. This day – remember this day – November 6th, 2012 – this day shall be remembered in history as the day when Americans decided they didn’t want to be the greatest, richest and the most powerful country in the world. This shall be the day Americans decided they wanted to be a middling, mediocre country. This shall be the day that will be remembered as the day Americans decided they had enough of this “superpower” thing and would rather have food stamps. This shall be remembered as the most glorious day in Chinese history.
As for me, I am moving to India. I cant take 4 more years of Obama.
My biggest concern, though I won’t live that long, is another World War for commodities, energy and food, with China being the big winner given America’s expected continuing decline. As you said, it will probably be nuclear…starting in the Mideast with the destruction of Israel, followed by Europe, and ultimately the USA!
Demographics and the need for energy and food has always governed and always will! Our American capitalist society has led the way for two centuries with our natural resources and innovative technologies for energy and food production but with the impending surmise of America’s society the planet is on the ””Eve of Destruction” (One on the great protest songs from my 1st year of College in 1965.)
Political systems are a sideshow in the struggle for survival! Like the Roman Empire…we’re losing! Maybe, in a couple of centuries or a millennium, someone, if anyone is still alive, with write “The Rise and Fall of Freedom…The American Empire”!
I’ll guarantee you one thing…yesterday’s American voter was dumber than any citizen of Rome!
Deeply depressed on an early Wednesday morning in early November, 2012!