Me too. On both accounts! What’s *wrong* with people these days? What would happen here in Denmark if the crowd singing the National Anthem at an international football game (Yes, it’s called football. Get over it!) You’d have 50.000 rioters on the streets looking to rip out the short and curlies one by one of the idiot who banned such a thing, that’s what you’d get!
And the other anthem? (we have two) Well, plenty of blood and guts and displaced brain matter in that song, but on new years eve, every single Dane rises with a glass of champagne and sing the words. If some PC Eurocrat was to forbid that we would start building longboats again and raising havoc under the battle cry ‘go [ahem] yourself!’
Don’t stand for this PC nonsense! There is a reason for having a national anthem, as well as a national flag. They’re a symbol that you belong to a nation. How hard can be to grasp that?
Go to a game on that college and sing your beautiful anthem. What’s the worst that could happen? The Principal getting fired? Now wouldn’t that be a shame.
Silly. The song’s about watching violent things happen, not doing them.
That being said, I don’t have any problem with them banning it. In fact, by not banning it they’re sort of engaging in false advertising: not letting people know they’re the kind of school that’s run by totalitarian newspeak-spouting douchebags that would ban a song they don’t like but would cackle with the glee of five-year-olds on Halloween if they heard of a violent deed done against people with differing political opinions.
Disallowing them to bad this song would keep vital information out of the market and unjustly enrich them by allowing unsuspecting decent-minded folks to spend money there unawares…
In their defence, they’re a Mennonite school, which is a denomination with a long history of actual pacifism. I don’t think they’d be happy about violence against anyone, this isn’t an America-bashing thing. It’s ridiculous, but in a nonpartisan kind of way(…I think).
It’s not “bashing,” per se, but it is an incredibly arrogant position which contains the claim that this college has the moral or ethical right to condemn a nation as “too violent.”
I’ll bet those dumb buggers don’t even know how many verses are in the song, and what they meant. Nope, they just obsess over “the rockets’ red glare.” Dolts.
Well, then I’d moderate my tone a bit, but my thoughts on censoring (or even censuring) the censors still applies. I’ve had this discussion with several of my liberal friends, about things like racism in restaurants. I ask them how they feel about being tricked into unwittingly giving financial and business support to a person who buys their weekend attire in the linens section of Bed Bath and Beyond (or its Walmart equivalent), and nobody’s come up with a good response yet. It’s always good to let stupid advertise itself as loudly as possible.
Oddly enough, we have a blatantly racist restaurant right here in my town – a Japanese place that somehow never has a table open for anybody who isn’t Japanese (even if they’re empty). They think they’re all special and everything, but actually they’re a local laughingstock.
They’re searching for “an alternative to playing the National Anthem that fits with sports tradition, that honors country and that resonates with Goshen College’s core values and respects the views of diverse constituencies.”
That song will be either very long, or very short.
I think it is silly that Goshen College is complaining about a song retelling an actual historical event, and wonder if they just ignore Matthew 21 verses 12-13 in which Jesus took action against those who had turned the temple into a marketplace, but it is their right to worship as they please, or if they explain to their congregation how wrong Jesus was to turn to violence in that instance when conducting their Bible Study.
If I recall correctly from watching the Blackhawks take the Stanley Cup a couple of years ago, the Philadelphia Flyers don’t play the Star Spangled Banner to open their games either, but a taped version of God Bless America. It is always well recieved, and seems like a great substitute for Goshen College to use. Problem solved, have a nice day everyone.
(Note to Evil Red Scandi- Mennonites don’t allow their children to dress up on Halloween.)
If the taped version of God Bless America is sung by Kate Smith, that’s a LONG standing tradition for the Flyers dating at least back to the ’70′s. When she sang it live, they usually won.
I’m not even an American and this offends me.
Me too. On both accounts! What’s *wrong* with people these days? What would happen here in Denmark if the crowd singing the National Anthem at an international football game (Yes, it’s called football. Get over it!) You’d have 50.000 rioters on the streets looking to rip out the short and curlies one by one of the idiot who banned such a thing, that’s what you’d get!
And the other anthem? (we have two) Well, plenty of blood and guts and displaced brain matter in that song, but on new years eve, every single Dane rises with a glass of champagne and sing the words. If some PC Eurocrat was to forbid that we would start building longboats again and raising havoc under the battle cry ‘go [ahem] yourself!’
Don’t stand for this PC nonsense! There is a reason for having a national anthem, as well as a national flag. They’re a symbol that you belong to a nation. How hard can be to grasp that?
Go to a game on that college and sing your beautiful anthem. What’s the worst that could happen? The Principal getting fired? Now wouldn’t that be a shame.
Silly. The song’s about watching violent things happen, not doing them.
That being said, I don’t have any problem with them banning it. In fact, by not banning it they’re sort of engaging in false advertising: not letting people know they’re the kind of school that’s run by totalitarian newspeak-spouting douchebags that would ban a song they don’t like but would cackle with the glee of five-year-olds on Halloween if they heard of a violent deed done against people with differing political opinions.
Disallowing them to bad this song would keep vital information out of the market and unjustly enrich them by allowing unsuspecting decent-minded folks to spend money there unawares…
In their defence, they’re a Mennonite school, which is a denomination with a long history of actual pacifism. I don’t think they’d be happy about violence against anyone, this isn’t an America-bashing thing. It’s ridiculous, but in a nonpartisan kind of way(…I think).
It’s not “bashing,” per se, but it is an incredibly arrogant position which contains the claim that this college has the moral or ethical right to condemn a nation as “too violent.”
I’ll bet those dumb buggers don’t even know how many verses are in the song, and what they meant. Nope, they just obsess over “the rockets’ red glare.” Dolts.
Well, then I’d moderate my tone a bit, but my thoughts on censoring (or even censuring) the censors still applies. I’ve had this discussion with several of my liberal friends, about things like racism in restaurants. I ask them how they feel about being tricked into unwittingly giving financial and business support to a person who buys their weekend attire in the linens section of Bed Bath and Beyond (or its Walmart equivalent), and nobody’s come up with a good response yet. It’s always good to let stupid advertise itself as loudly as possible.
Oddly enough, we have a blatantly racist restaurant right here in my town – a Japanese place that somehow never has a table open for anybody who isn’t Japanese (even if they’re empty). They think they’re all special and everything, but actually they’re a local laughingstock.
I have a few things I’d like to call them. Most have fewer letters than “unpatriotic”.
They’re searching for “an alternative to playing the National Anthem that fits with sports tradition, that honors country and that resonates with Goshen College’s core values and respects the views of diverse constituencies.”
That song will be either very long, or very short.
+1
I think it is silly that Goshen College is complaining about a song retelling an actual historical event, and wonder if they just ignore Matthew 21 verses 12-13 in which Jesus took action against those who had turned the temple into a marketplace, but it is their right to worship as they please, or if they explain to their congregation how wrong Jesus was to turn to violence in that instance when conducting their Bible Study.
If I recall correctly from watching the Blackhawks take the Stanley Cup a couple of years ago, the Philadelphia Flyers don’t play the Star Spangled Banner to open their games either, but a taped version of God Bless America. It is always well recieved, and seems like a great substitute for Goshen College to use. Problem solved, have a nice day everyone.
(Note to Evil Red Scandi- Mennonites don’t allow their children to dress up on Halloween.)
If the taped version of God Bless America is sung by Kate Smith, that’s a LONG standing tradition for the Flyers dating at least back to the ’70′s. When she sang it live, they usually won.
It’s not just the words that are banned, it’s the music. So what do they have against the drinking song To Anacreon in Heaven?
i vaguely remember this happening 40 years ago during the vietnam turmoil. the substitute anthem was usually “America the Beautiful”.