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July 13, 2014 - 11:46 pm

Edward Snowden, with his tales of collected cellphone metadata, was small potatoes. A new tattler tells the Guardian that audio of our conversations is monitored and stored by the NSA. Antony Loewenstein reports:

William Binney is one of the highest-level whistleblowers to ever emerge from the NSA. He was a leading code-breaker against the Soviet Union during the Cold War but resigned soon after September 11, disgusted by Washington’s move towards mass surveillance.

On 5 July he spoke at a conference in London organised by the Centre for Investigative Journalism and revealed the extent of the surveillance programs unleashed by the Bush and Obama administrations.

“At least 80% of fibre-optic cables globally go via the US”, Binney said. “This is no accident and allows the US to view all communication coming in. At least 80% of all audio calls, not just metadata, are recorded and stored in the US. The NSA lies about what it stores.”

Outrageous though this revelation surely is, we should not be surprised. The combination of ever-improving high technology, within a political context where individual rights are routinely sacrificed for a perceived “greater good,” makes this kind of surveillance inevitable. Once contained only in dystopian fantasy, global population monitoring has emerged as a plausible reality.

We’re not going to be able to put the technological genie back in the bottle, and mere “oversight” won’t be able to keep up with emerging surveillance capabilities. Instead, if we hope to avoid Binney’s predicted “total population control,” we need a philosophical revolution which culminates in stripping government of the funding and authority to maintain such blanket surveillance.

(Today’s Fightin Words podcast is on this topic available here. 17:25 minutes long; 16.79 MB file size. Right click here to download this show to your hard drive. Subscribe through iTunes or RSS feed.)

Walter Hudson advocates for individual rights, serving on the boards of the Republican Liberty Caucus of Minnesota, Minnesota Majority and the Minority Liberty Alliance. He maintains a blog and daily podcast entitled Fightin Words. He also contributes to True North, a hub of conservative Minnesotan commentary, and regularly appears on the Twin Cities News Talk Weekend Roundtable on KTCN AM 1130. Follow his work via Twitter and Facebook.
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I worked at Battelle for years. We developed an algorithm to sort words and word patterns and presents them in a visual format with emphasis, in all languages....then it connected all other phone calls and emails to that one source and looked for similar patterns...and that was in 2001.

Now its old news with all the new stuff DC has developed.
While Crowd Crushing or a Fire Sale may seem relevant to shut down a small blog site, it doesn't work in chains of servers...unfortunately.
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At what price security? This doesn't surprise me. Since the industrial revolution, despite all the good that it did, it helped oligarchs amass wealth and subsequent power. As Ted Turner once said, after you get so rich, all that's left to pursue is power. And the richest men in the world are doing just that. And all governments (that I'm aware of) are beholden to the their (usually) privately-owned central banks, and the central banks' planning organizations.

Diffusing the surveillance threat? TomDperkins is right. It can't be undone. But unfortunately it also can't be controlled. The nature of humanity is not to fight against the tide. It is not to be noble. It IS to seek a king to serve and revere. And for all those TSA types who unapologetically grope their neighbors and say 'I'm just doing my job', one day they will just as blandly kill thier neighbors' dogs, their wives, their children and any men who try to defend them. Probably because of a thought crime, recorded by the NSA.

Who would have thought that two thousand years ago, when Jesus said that one day the world's financial, religious and governmental systems would be powerful enough to control everyone on earth, and make them worship the beast and receive a mark in order to be able to buy and sell, or be put to death... who would have thought it was possible? Who would have thought it was more than merely metaphorical, or mere hyperbole? Well it's here now and I don't think it's going to end differently than Jesus said some two millennia (!) ago.

It really is time to repent and turn to Him for help and salvation, and to be pure and keep His commmandments. I'm sure you all know that He said seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things will be added to you. For where your treasure is there will your heart be also.
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"We’re not going to be able to put the technological genie back in the bottle, and mere “oversight” won’t be able to keep up with emerging surveillance capabilities. Instead, if we hope to avoid Binney’s predicted “total population control,” we need a philosophical revolution which culminates in stripping government of the funding and authority to maintain such blanket surveillance."

The data you are speaking of is far too valuable, if oversight will not prevent it's accumulation and eventual misuse, for it not to be misused. In fact, if oversight fails now, do you think the system will permit itself to be dismantled? Do you think the "gates to hell" will not be opened by them under anyone who seems likely to move effectively towards that task?

If in fact all audio they can get at is retained, as well as all email going through their hands, then the militia must muster and train openly, and must insist on the 2nd amendment--as it in fact does--protecting private ownership of all items of military utility; specifically, the strongest encryption available open source. This encryption is quite good.

This leviathan will not be taken apart, but kinetically.

Not politically.

If they have done such as they are accused of, then they have covertly undertaken the overthrow of the constitution and republic. They won't give a sh!t for politics.
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Can we con one of them into getting us Lois Lerner's emails?
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Con? Those jerks work for us...lol
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Soooo...the future is here. Total control? Where are Lois Lerner's emails...and phone calls too. Where is the surveillance video of Benghazi...of Fast and Furious? The list goes on and on. Is all of this 'control' only for the 'little people'??? It seems like watching the watchers would be more prudent. BIG Bro is pretty screwed up by all accounts. Look around. If the government runs this scat like it does most things (the VA comes to mind)...it will collect data on itself, have a few stiff drinks and commit suicide. I'll give a toast to that! These 'control freeeeeks' aren't ready for the TRUTH and certainly couldn't handle it. The future for them could be much nearer AND shorter than they think. The NAZIs didn't 'see' the end coming till it was WAY too late. As it should be. jmho
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The "security services" are not for your security. They do enough to guarantee the establishment can continue to rent-seek and not much else.
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TOTAL CONTROL is probably not all it's cranked up to be. Like being the ONLY designated driver for ALL occasions. Pretty unsatisfactory and NOT ever fun. But they could make themselves useful and help Patriots keep an eye on the idiots who 'think' they are in charge.....GOD knows we could use the help. Clowns to the 'left' of us and jokers to the 'right'...here we are stuck in the middle of scat.
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Funny how these 'whistleblowers' who supposedly know so much about surveillance world wide can only seem to find information on the US and her allies' surveillance, and nothing on leftist or even totalitarian governments. Odd. Binney offers no proof, just as Snowden did not. Just overblown, panic stricken pronouncements, projecting the fact that the NSA is doing it's job (foreign intelligence) onto domestic issues.
Click over to the article. Binney, who has been out of surveillance for DECADES shows no proof but speculates with the bated breath of a virgin recounting the first time her boyfriend got to second base in the back of the Chevy.
If you're going to reply, please use facts to defend your point. The heavy breathing gets on my nerves.
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AWRM.org

look around...
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Total population control is an illusion. Even "Total Institutions," ie, jails, prisons, and insane asylums, never achieve total population control; the inmates invariably fight back, power is always relative rather than absolute, and authority is always tenuous and subject to violent change and renegotiation. Consciousness (computer data) is always about what has already happened, not what is happening (the pre reflective) or what is going to happen (the future).
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Well, the inmates may fight back, but they are still inmates.
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Yeah, but other examples of "total institutions" are the military and intelligence agencies, like the CIA. I would argue they've been having some total control issues lately. Basically, the authorities get to rule by permission of the inmates.
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...if we hope to avoid Binney’s predicted “total population control,” we need a philosophical revolution which culminates in stripping government of the funding and authority to maintain such blanket surveillance.

The problem is that there is a large segment of the American voting public for whom greater importance is placed on government-provided goodies than individual rights.
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Anyone who thinks the NSA is pure as the driven snow is deluded....

Looking at the IRS, EPA and a host of other departments, it's quite evident that they've all been purged and Obama's sycophants have been installed.....

Hitler never needed to write specific orders to his henchmen.... and neither does Obama.

Lois Lerner was hand picked for obvious reasons and I'm certain the NSA is aggressively seeking out Obama's enemies... ummm... that would be white conservative Christians who Eric Holder just named "lone wolf" homegrown terrorists.
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There's one very simple way to deal with this: overwhelm them. There aren't enough people in the world to listen to every word on the Internet, to read every email, listen to every phone call. There have to be algorithms to "sort out" what is "interesting" from what is just normal, day-to-day mundane matters.

I once suggested that the fastest way to destroy the KGB was to send them every bit of information created in the US and among its allies. The KGB of the 1970's couldn't even begin to translate, interpret and collate all that information, especially if you included every masters and doctoral thesis published by our colleges, all our works of fiction and non-fiction published in the open press, and all the mundane information included in our daily lives. They would collapse, and with it, most Soviet spy activities. Encrypting it with a simple code would have the effect of waving a red flag at a bull.

The US government is no less vulnerable, and equally susceptible to the same tactics. Sure, encrypt your email, but you don't have to. Just send it as it is. Eventually the servers will melt down, the storage technology will be overwhelmed. There's just too much.
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NSA storage is on the order of exabytes, and the processing is automated (Google writes their analysis algorithms - or perhaps the other way around).
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I worked at Battelle for years. We developed an algorithm to sort words and word patterns and presents them in a visual format with emphasis, in all languages....then it connected all other phone calls and emails to that one source and looked for similar patterns...and that was in 2001.

Now its old news with all the new stuff DC has developed.
While Crowd Crushing or a Fire Sale may seem relevant to shut down a small blog site, it doesn't work in chains of servers...unfortunately.
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All they need is the ability to query a name, and have that data-base drop ALL of your collected data; phone calls, emails, purchases, cell tower pings (gps), etc..

So you couldn't be more wrong. You would only overwhelm the dummies.
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Gee, did anyone ever think of just NOT having a computer - cell phone - or credit cards?
Even Eddie Bower shirts have an RF tag sewn in. It is already too late gents!!
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- But, that data could be so useful!

- Yeah, that's what we're afraid of. The use of it.
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