Missouri Senate candidate Rep. Todd Akin (R) lashed out at RNC Chairman Reince Priebus for saying that he wouldn’t send him a dime, regardless.
At the convention in Tampa earlier this week, Priebus was asked by conservative bloggers Ben Howe and Chris Loesch if the RNC’s hardline position against helping the congressman under fire over his “legitimate rape” remarks would change should Akin continue to stay in the race versus Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.).
“No, no. No. He could be tied. We’re not going to send him a penny,” Priebus said in the video, again advocating that Akin step aside and let someone else run on the GOP ticket.
“I just think that the people who want to do something special are always better than the people who want to be somebody special,” Priebus said.
“Reince Priebus’ comments are extremely dissappointing [sic],” Perry Akin, the congressman’s son and campaign manager, fired back in a statement.
“He claims the mantle of freedom, liberty and the good of America, but this betrays his apparent personal vendetta against Todd Akin,” Akin continued. “He is putting party power and political games ahead of the good of the country.”
The congressman also tweeted, “The GOP Chairman won’t send us a penny to defeat Claire McCaskill. Join GOP leaders like Mike Huckabee to stop her.”
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akin has been in congress since 2001. if he is the vile individual now being trashed, why was he supported, and elected, these past years? also, i suspect that, should he win the senate seat, priebus will expect his support and vote.
akin poorly stated a controversial opinion. the phony outrage on the national level is despicable. let missouri make up its own collective mind.
priebus is throwing away missouri
another example of the stupid gop’ers cutting their nose off to spite their face
Reince Priebus may be giving up Missouri, but he may also be ensuring the success of a half-dozen other razor-thin-margined races. He’s right. I’m sorry Akin got caught saying something dumb on camera. However, he gave the media a focus that was not the number-one issue right now: the economy. Sure, I’d like to see abortion far more restricted. But he and his supporters are ignoring or forgetting one very important thing: we have to win the election first. Abortion and contraception are what the Dems WANT to talk about. We need to make them talk about the economy and jobs, you know, the issues they are trying very hard to avoid.
Priebus made a hard call. He did it to protect the party as a whole. Akin’s decision to stay in the race is a selfish one, and when he loses (as he will, despite his previous healthy lead), it will be his fault, not Priebus’s.
Agree 100%. Akin will win and will lead all Republican candidates in state-wide victories. The GOP, led by Priebus, is doing its best to re-elect McCaskill. Despicable.
Akin and Huckabee are egomaniacs. If they cared about this country and defeating Obama they would step aside. They both have to go.
Not really familiar with the other, but Akin’s post-gaffe raging egomania more than anything else convinced me he’s not fit for office (although I’ll of course vote for him, he can sit on the back bench for 6 years as long as he votes well enough in the Senate), and is exactly what Preibus was talking about when he said “I just think that the people who want to do something special are always better than the people who want to be somebody special.“
Yes, Aken has been a Congressman for around a decade, he was known to be very conservative and anti-abortion, but he is mostly on Committees around Military and Tech. You would think he has become media savvy on discussing things. The GOP has included the SOCONS and they have a strong right to life plank, but most of the pols know that progress is working at the front line of an issue to move the law in your direction. When does charging the line solo obtain victory in the field of battle.
Aken doesn’t just speak for himself, all Senate candidates are defacto Speakers for the GOP. His remarks have hurt so many campaigns, and causing them to call for his resignation to not be tarred with the same brush.
Priebus is trying to select the best campaigns to support to win on an entire front. Supporting Akin probably makes other races that much harder.
I wonder if Bill Clinton will address the topic of “legitimate rape ‘ in his keynote convention speech.
If Akin was so confident he can win a statewide race for the US Senate, as opposed to his previously local district level races for the US House, against what was supposed to be a cakewalk against a fatally flawed democrat incumbent – then why now is Akin so aching to get funding from the national party organization?
Why should the rest of us help fund his Quixotic charge and potentially not send needed funding to more promising candidates?
Every dime sent to his campaign is akin to denying that same dime to a candidate with a better chance of winning. It is a waste of money.
This is all about Akin’s ego, and it will end badly. He’s made a mess of things, damaged the campaigns of numerous other candidates, set back the national ticket, and even damaged his own agenda whether or not the rest of us even agree with him on abortion….and now he wants money for the mess he’s created?
Screw him.
and you screw yourself, stupid
stupid poopoo head.
so go screw yourself then, stupid
Stoopy called me a name!
So lacking the intellect to rebut my points, you immediately degenerate into name calling.
Yeah, that’s about right for your level of intelligence. Makes sense that you are an Akin supporter.
I guess “socon” is he Right-wing version of “neocon”. Momma always said, “Progressive Socialist is as Progressive Socialist does.”
Scott and the rest of the Progressives who call themselves Republicans will increasingly find themselves on the fringe of the Party. You can make up fake political terms all day long in an attempt to villify actual Constitutionalists, but the Tea Party has your number. We’re well past the point where we’re listening to you.
No, I will be with the majority of the republican party (and all sane people for that matter) that does not agree that a victim of rape should be forced to stay pregnant.
But do please keep showing just how screwed up a world view you have. It will certainly lessen any influence you try to obtain in any discussion.
Bravo Scott. I too agree that principles and values are ultimately meaningless and that the whole goal is to get the GOP into office no matter what because as history has taught us…
Seriously Scott? We have a man who has a voting record he can be proud of. He was stomping…STOMPING his Demorat opponent before this, and he has time to salvage his campaign as opposed to just chucking someone else in there at the last minute. Who is this magical republican that can take his place at the last minute?
He may have been “stomping” his opponent before, but now his opponent is wiping the floor up with him and it is all on his head as to why that is the case.
It is not because he was “misunderstood” – he was perfectly clear in what he believes and the majority of the public does not agree with his beliefs.
Trying to spin it now and claim he meant something different only makes him look sillier, and worse yet a liar.
This leads to the next stage of his problem, which is that the seat he wants for himself requires him to represent the views of his constituents.
Not his own views, but those held by the population he wants to represent.
Unfortunately for him, the majority of his would be constituents apparently disagree with his views as well on this issue.
No amount of money is going to undo Akin’s level of foot-in-mouth disease nor change the preferred media narrative that he’s an idiot, and the democrats are going to ride it right into another term for McCaskill while using it to take down as many other republicans running for office as possible.
Backing a clearly losing candidate is a fools errand, and the RNC is right to spend it’s money more wisely elsewhere. At this point, to back him would be embrace his views – and THAT would be pure poison for the republicans in the election at this point.
As for what magical candidate could replace him, either of his primary opponents were polling well ahead of McCaskill and would likely do so again in the general election as they don’t have the political baggage Akin is lugging around with him now.
This is nothing more than extreme SoCons demanding they have their candidate on the ballot to prove they can win….right up until they lose and we are as a consequence stuck with Obamacare for all eternity.
This is what Akin will be held accountable and cursed for, for the rest of his days.
Scott, I agree with you that Akin should step down, but it’s not because of his beliefs (if you mean abortion is wrong except health of the mother only). I am sure that was fairly well known all along.
No, he should step down because he screwed up. Sometimes in life you don’t get a second chance, sometimes there’s no “getting over” a critical error. He might be a great guy (probably is) and someone I would vote for, but there is NO getting over it at this point in the election, this point in history and knowing that there are several good replacements that could quickly step in with good Conservative (including SoCon’s) credentials.
I have no problem with him believing anything he wants to regarding a woman’s magical lady parts – it’s just that there’s no room for such nonsense in this race. There are probably a lot of things I would agree with him on (I understand he’s a very strong 2nd Amendment supporter, for instance).
However, this race is too important, and he’s screwing it up for people besides himself.
I’m actually crossing my fingers and toes in the hopes that he somehow wins (as he’s obviously too pig-headed to step aside for someone else) as Missourians hold their nose and vote for him out of a sense of the lesser of two evils.
I think the majority of folks would be a lot happier if he would just admit he screwed the pooch, step aside, and cast his support behind his successor.
I just don’t believe the man has that level of humility in him though.
You are clearly out of touch with reality. Wonder where you find your made-up talking points. Stop insulting Missouri voters with your inept analysis.
“Made up talking points”???
Last reputable poll I saw had Akin down 10 points to McCaskill. That’s not a talking point, that is cold hard reality.
Something Akin and his enablers are ignoring to everyone’s detriment.
You see, Michael, in Scott’s mind – Poll = “Hard, Cold Reality”
It doesn’t matter that a poll is not an election. It doesn’t matter that polls often fail to actually predict outcomes. Scott heard what he wanted to hear and shut his brain off.
Scott and other Progressive Socialist Republicans aren’t Conservative like you and I think of the term.
@ Jaycen
Why how brilliant of you Jaycen – polls are useless. Guess that’s why the political parties never spend a dime on the things cause they mean nothing./s
Unless of course it is a poll from a very liberal organization known as PPP that simply tells Akin what he wants to believe by drastic oversampling as a way of manipulating this egomaniac into staying in race. Of course the Rasmussen poll is to be ignored even though they have a far better track record on these things and give a completely different result.
Ah…who was it again you claimed “shut his brain off”?
“Scott and other Progressive Socialist Republicans aren’t Conservative like you and I think of the term.”
If “Conservative” in your mind means I have to agree to force my wife or daughter to carry a pregnancy to term that was a result of a rape – then no I don’t fit your definition of the word. I’ll go even farther and note that the vast majority of the public likewise won’t agree with your definition. In the real world, “Conservative” doesn’t mean what you think it means.
You don’t get to define definitions to suit you. And for the record I think you are the only person on the planet who has ever accused me of being a socialist….which goes to show just how ignorant you are.
“Last reputable poll I saw had Akin down 10 points to McCaskill. That’s not a talking point, that is cold hard reality”
Yes, when the Moderates and RINOS fled at the first volley, just screamed pell-mell for the safey of the rear without even firing a shot, I expect the enemy to advance easily.
Thanks for for showing them we are in fact, a paper tiger with a glass jaw. That we have no courage to stand up to their BS accusations over mere words, when THEY have a pedophile running for office at the same time.
You surrendered. Fired on your own troops. And who’s complaining the enemy is advancing now?
@ Root83
Riiiiight…..we should emulate the democrats and defend to the bitter end an incompetent candidate in a losing campaign.
That will show them democrats!
Not.
You’ve already caught Scott red-handed, Rev Walker.
Scott doesn’t care who gets into the Senate seat in my state, so long as it isn’t a Constitutional Conservative. The ONLY reason Scott cares if Claire wins is because she has a (D) after her name, and her brand of Internationalist Progressive Socialism isn’t like his brand of Nationalist Progressive Socialism.
Scott and other establishment Republicans want more government control, not less. They want more spending, not less. They’re not interested in reigning in government and being fiscally responsible. They want to spend whatever it takes for America to run the world.
You really ain’t that bright, are ya?
I actually am far more supportive of the Tea Party than you can possibly imagine, I opposed the spending compromise in the House and would have preferred a confrontation of increased spending, I read through on my own initiative the Federalist papers long before Reagan was elected, Romney was by far NOT my preference in candidates this election cycle, I think the government should defend the coasts carry the mail and stay out of everyone else’s business, and I refuse to join the NRA because they are too liberal for my tastes – and yet you accuse me of being some sort of socialist?
WTF???
As with your definition of “conservative”, that word “socialist” does not appear to mean what you think it means and by casting aspersions you know nothing about you simply display ever greater levels of ignorance.
Which of course goes far in explaining such blind support you have for Akin.
Scott, time to pack it up and get back in the basement…the more you rant the more you look like a 2bit troll. Akin will win or lose based on MO voters regardless of what the Romney Republican cowards have done.
@ Westie
So, what name are you going to post under next?
As for “trolling”, if you are accusing me of being the troll here then that is simply one more word that doesn’t mean what you think it means.
The one thing you are correct on, however, is that yes the voters of MO will decide Akin’s fate.
As of this week – it ain’t looking good. But please, by all means go once more and hide in denial.
Democrats defend their politicians when they rape, steal and commit homicide by vehicle.
If we can’t defend ours simply for uttering a stupid statement there is no hope for us.
if we can’t defend ours simply for uttering a stupid statement there is no hope for us
That is hardly the right way to look at it. Democrats don’t earn any real respect for circling their wagons around their losers. Likewise, it doesn’t reflect at all well on the Pubs either for supporting pols who have unreasonable, misguided notions about important (though obviously not at the top of that list) issues. You want to defend such idiots, be my guest but don’t look down your nose at those of us who expect more from our politicians.
there goes missouri
because Akin stubbornly & foolishly refuses to step aside.
he’ll win if the gop’ers back him, but they’re too stupid to do it
You’re mistaking stupidity for doing the right thing. Then again, perhaps you admire stupid politicians.
bobbcat, I see a person is to be totally condemned for having a strange notion, and actually stating it. If everyone that said something stupid were shot, would you be the last alive?
Akin’s quote was ” If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.” One stupid sentence which he has taken back.
Even smart people get caught in saying stupid things especially when the gatekeepers of information are trying to set them up.
We better learn to be more tolerant and forgiving of imperfections of those who agree with us on the important things.
If you demand perfection you are going to end up with Claire McCaskill. She’s not perfection.
If the Republican Party was not in such a precarious position with regard to its image of being intolerant of reproductive choice, this would indeed be no big deal, as you assert above. Unfortunately this is not the case. Unfair? Of course, but it’s the cards we have been dealt. On our side, we have to be above reproach in order to get anywhere when it comes to some issues, particularly the social issues.
bobcat, you are a Democrat
You are trolling.
Well, pardon me for being a round peg that doesn’t fit into your square hole. I actually gave you credit for being a sensible human being. Sorry about that.
But bobbcat and the other Progressives AREN’T demanding perfection. You’ve made an incorrect assumption, Bill.
Bobbcat and Scott and so many other commenters here aren’t interested in what Akin said, or how he said it. They don’t like Todd Akin due to his voting record. They are threatened by Constitutional Conservatives.
Bobbcat, Scott, and the nimrods who use the term “socon” are attempting to drive the Republican as hard Left as they possibly can. They want more government intrusion in our lives, not less. They want HUGE budgets, but they want those budgets to go toward THEIR ideal pet-projects.
You will never get them to logically debate you, because this isn’t about logic for them. They aren’t interested in the same kind of America Tea Partiers want. They want a Progressive Socialist utopia, where America leads the world.
It’s the “America leads the world” that tricks you into thinking they’re like you. They aren’t.
Logic…there’s another word you don’t understand the meaning of.
You don’t get it either. Sad.
When the democrats tried to defend Carter when he referenced his daughter Amy in the presidential debate with Reagan, how did that work out for them?
Sometimes ya gotta admit when it’s time to cut loose a losing candidate.
Bill,
You forgot to add sex with minors…they get caught doing that without the MSM batting an eye…Only Republicans get tossed to wolves for mere COMMENTS.
And the RINOS in charge have the same strategy for Democratic smear campaigns as the Pentagon has for Afgan attacks…Blame the victim
“Be extra nice and dont provoke them, maybe they wont go all ballistic an stuff”
17 beheaded for dancing, but we’re worried we dont “respect them enough”
Not much different than Political Execution of Akin for mere comments, verses pure silence for the hateful and disgusting THINGS THEY DO ALL THE TIME .
Its cowardly, digusting.
Period.
Here we go again…
Consider another pathway that this might have taken. Day one: Mitt says, “The people of Missouri have chosen Todd Akin as their candidate for Senate after a grueling 3-way primary. There has been a misunderstanding about his position on abortion, he should clarify his position and we will move on to win.” Would we be here now? If the Republican Party were a well run business, Mitt would have lined up with the Tea Party three years ago and said, “Ok, now, how do we take a winner to 2012?” I am sure he was happy with the mid-term gains, eh? So…let’s see, our votes are good until we get to the national elections and then we are morons? Hindsight is 20/20 I know but don’t we appreciate foresight in politicians? Do you mean to tell me that after McCain/Palin, Priebus doesn’t understand that our opponents will try to drive a wedge into our base? Why inflame this? Enter Mitt Dillon: “You’d better be out of town by sundown!” Todd Akin is the candidate of the people of Missouri, their chosen candidate, not the RNC’s or Mitt Romney’s. At first I thought that this was an error, a diplomatic error on the part of Romney. It looks more and more like the Party is taking on water and listing to the port. It looks more like a GOP Establishment putsch to me now. Get ready for a fragging conservatives.
Here’s another pathway. After Akin shot off his mouth, he chose to not compound the error by lying about it. he claimed that he “misspoke” and talked about “one word being wrong”. Thats’ Joe Biden level stupidity. The national party shouldn’t be subsidizing that. It’d been nice if people (whose money he wants) had some reason to believe that he deosn’t make Biden look smart and Murkowski look like a good loser. Instead we got what we’re seeing now.
Diplomacy would seem to be a lost art. You would have been much better at handling those subtle nuances. Then the senate seat would have been a sure thing! I shouldn’t drink so much coffee.
Sometimes an apology is not enough. We can forgive but not forget. Akin’s stupid statement epitomizes how liberals/democrats perceive the GOP. It is legitimate outrage and I agree. Reince Priebus is absolutely right to withhold funds.
This is your War on Men moment and it isn’t working. Akin is an honorable leader and has an untarnished conservative record. McCaskill will be defeated in a landslide if the elite GOP idiots shut their mouths and stop legitimizing the Democrats’ gender politics.
Not all penis people are bonerheads.
This is not a war on men! “Akin is an honorable leader and has an untarnished conservative record” He’s tarnished it; to the point of giving the Democrats enough ammunition to hurt the entire GOP.
Only because you say it does…..just S.T.F.U., ignore them and they have NO POWER.
They play us like a fiddle because we ACCEPT their lies and we SURRENDER to them, without a fight, EVER.
STFU is the solution, but by harping on Akin they flatter themselves and their egos, and they can’t STFU.
First you say ignore them, then you complain we won’t fight them?
Are you the bipolar contingent of the Party of Stupid?
Geez, make up your mind why don’t ya?!?
Lets get Akin elected to help his ego and help the dems wrap his remarks around Romney/Ryan. Makes no sense at all. I am so sick of pols who think the country needs them.
Instead of the so-called socons trying to turn this into a litmus test for the GOP (especially Huckabee with nothing to lose and a gain of more publicity for his lousy show) why don’t social conservatives let Akin know that this election is too important for the country and that the issue of abortion is too important to be held hostage by one man. Yes Romney could have done things differently but without an even-handed media it is a tough call.
We can make it clear that the issue is not abortion but wrong-headed opinions about rape and its aftermath. Then we are done.
Oh and don’t tell me this is really about values. A lot of wrong life decisions go into having an abortion. Bad economies don’t help those decisions. An Obama presidency doesn’t help those decisions. Leftist state and local governments don’t help those decisions. We can replace this piece of junk with one of the primary runners and get to beating up democrats.
” but without an even-handed media it is a tough call”
No, actually…its not that tough at all.
Just get on-message, and stay there.
Its actually pretty simple.
A REAL Leader would have said something like this:
“Obviously I don’t agree with those particular comments, and I don’t think that most Americans do either…but its disingenuous to try and portray the entirety of Mr. Akins long record in the House based on that one comment…any more so, I might add, than it would be to portray Ms Pelosi, Mr. Reid, Ms Boxer, or anyone else on the left, as an evil one-dimensional caricature based solely on some of the incredibly insulting things THEY’VE unfortunately said from time to time…we’re bigger people that, and its time to move on….the people of Missouri have their chosen election candidates, and their perfectly capable of deciding for themselves if this means anything to them or not”
The Krauthammers and other RINOS of the world could easily get behind that, and with a LITTLE Party Discipline, it could have contained within a single day, and we’d be talking about GUNWALKER and the ECONOMY
Instead, we immediately had hundreds of the undisciplined running aound in appologetic circles screaming to the media “I’m not THAT guy!” just adding to the noise, and proving their point:
SEE? The GOP “freaks-out” whenever their racist/homophobic/misogynistic “true colors” show through, and they try so desperately to hide it.
Akin stubbed his toe, its true
THEN, the GOP shot THEIR foot off with THE MEDIAS 12 gauge.
*facepalm*
*headdesk*
They go ballistic and hysterical, and from now on the merest stray utterance will cause paroxysms of rage.
It’s Bedlam, and the inmates want blood, yet.
Who the hell wants to vote for any of these unhinged crazies now?
They’re afraid of the widdy biddy Dems, for chrissakes!
I still don’t understand why this has to be a litmus test for the GOP and not Akin. If abortion is a surrogate for more influence by certain religious groups at the expense of others I can understand the rallying around something stupid when we can least afford it. Then it makes sense. If you care about the election and you care about abortion (as an issue in of itself, not just as a means of saying government should be assisting religious life) then you can accept the fact that Akin torched himself.
I wouldn’t care if this was a local MO incident. It is not. It is about getting this admin. foot off our necks and you want to say instead that it is Akin first and the rest comes afterward.
The only reason the Media and the Administration have their “foot on our neck”, is because we were stupid enough to immediately bow down and ask forgiveness for something that should have had us barely even shrug our shoulders, while standing fully upright, staring them back in the face.
Better yet, why didnt WE make any “hay of outrage” about the DEMOCRAT caught having sex with a MINOR…why are WE so afraid to call them “pedophiles, rapists, and immoral creeps”
If you want to play their game, PLAY IT.
If you DONT want to play their game, DONT.
But this non-sensical retreat at every false prod, while failing to EVER EVEN TRY to stike a similar blow, is a bigger embarassment than anything Akin could do by himself.
The “moderates” were routed at the first volley, again, then DARE to complain about the “retreat/defeat” we suffered when they surrenderd the field without firing a shot.
The damage is done now, and the ones who FLED FIRST are to blame, not the rear guard.
The GOP leaderships bet is if they don’t send him any money, the big media talk will be Romney-Ryan-Akin, Romney-Ryan-Aien, Romney-Ryan-Akin, etc. on through November 6. If they do send him money, the big media talk will be AKIN-Romney-AKIN-Ryan-AKIN-AKIN-ANIN!!!, AKIN-Romney-AKIN-Ryan-AKIN-AKIN-ANIN!!!, AKIN-Romney-AKIN-Ryan-AKIN-AKIN-ANIN!!! on through November 6.
They can’t erase the narrative, but they can starve the liberal beast by severing connections, and forcing the big media people to try and artificially create their own. Sucks for Todd, but in a close national election, keeping the focus on the issues Obama and the media don’t want to talk about, like the economy, unemployment and over-regulation, and away from the side issues Team Obama wants to make the election about, can be the difference between winning and losing the swing voters.
No Akin does not deserve clarify his position. Conservatives to have a political future must endeavor to clearly articulate sound, logical and clearly defined positions. Not only to win, but we as Conservatives should demand that of our leaders. Akin failed this test miserably –to suggest that somehow ‘A womans body can shut down these kinds of pregnancies” is simply ludicrous and shows not only ignorance –but a contradictive argument for/against the protection of life. He just stated that a woman does have the right to choose, she by the will of thought and spirit can end her pregnancy. So not only can he not make a cogent point, he winds up making a point rife with nothing but further questions about the right to life argument.
I personally am a life long conservative –but hold that it is not of the govt. business what a woman decides to do in the early terms of her pregnancy. But at the sime time I can accept the arguments on either side (as long as we are discussing early terms). But Akin is simply an idiot. And as Chrisie just said last night –his mom did not suffer fools. Politics his a hard a game, make idiotic statements that are not slips of the tongue then I believe you are a gonner.
Huckabee should look up his old buddy Judas.
Joe Gray
but I am all for Missouri, and for the country as a whole, all 57 states of it, and I can’t thank the Republican leadership more for dropping Akin like a hot potato, it shows a true bipartisan spirit just like the spirit that I have, and I can assure you that in my second term as president I will not forget this action and will look to the Republican leadership for still more of the same excellent helping hand across the table and I know it will be forthcoming, more than ever before, just for the asking,
Well then if Mr. Akin thought that this abortion and rape item is so important to the nation at this time. Then why doesn’t Mr. Akin then engage a critical discussion/debate about his statement. His statement that is so completely devoid of understanding human biology. So how does this ficticious rape victim go about avoiding a potential pregancy –biologically speaking? What is it in the female DNA that allows her to do this. What medical evidence has Mr. Akin ever read that leads to him to this profound belief. Is this human (female) ability only turned on in case of rape? And how long after the rape can the victim perform this feat. And furthermore during all of the tragic emotional impacts, stress, police and family, fear, etc…I suppose that the victim has time to concentrate on this biological feat. If he ‘Mr Akin’ wants to join one of the highest honors and powerful positions of US Senator –then I believe we are owed a detailed explanation of this from him and perhaps some local citizens and doctors want to participate in the Q&A. You pull the yes lever for idiots and you will get what you deserve. Just look at what pulling the yes level for president gave us the last 4 yrs. –You act like democrats and you vote for idiots you get a nation in ruin.
to admit the only thing that can possibly stop me from winning a second term, and pocketing Missouri in the Senate, is if, by some means or other, Akin actually wins the state election instead, which he might after all, you never know. But I do know this — shhhh quiet! — the repubs haven’t the guts to stand up for him. Even though his blunder isn’t really much of anything, they raised so much fuss and feathers about it already themselves, they’re stuck. They’re more afraid of me and how us Dems “see” them than anything, and are paralyzed. Pathetic wimps. So the voters will pull the lever for me all over again, because they know who the wimps are. They may be dumb, but they ain’t that dumb. Suckers!
I was trying to avoid getting into this thread, but…
Maybe the reason why the GOP dropped him like a hot potato was
…Teh stupid. It burns…
Don’t think, Republicans, that your action re Akin will do you any good in this election I am going to win, because I will bash and bash and bash you all over the head with Akin, repeatedly, day in and day out, working American voters up to a fit of rabid fury, and then some. The country deserves no less, after all. I am your Leader now, and forever, and my so-called “Obamacare” will forever remain the law of the land, with Missouri as the deciding vote in the Senate, ha ha.
And rest assured, all your well-directed, righteous wrath against Akin will do you no good even if you force him out, because it will have been too late, and abandon hope any hope for me ever sparing the living products of failed abortion procedures either, they will cry, and die, and that’s that, along with millions of elder senior citizens who will likewise be denied care in numbers rivaling any holocaust, because, well, just because I say so . . . Like it or lump it.
Priebus’s “personal vendetta” is against absolute stupidity.
Stupidity loses races, absolute stupidity loses absolutely.
Even the stupid party rejects absolute stupidity.
Priebus’s “personal vendetta” is absolute stupidity.
And the stupid party embraces it.
off-topic…but…following sex, sperm MAY fertilize a human female egg in somewhere between 30 minutes and 3 days. If a woman is raped and takes an abortifacient within 24 hours after the assault, is she provably terminating a conception?
Here’s the thing.
Akin is on record as opposing abortion even in the case of rape.
This is not a view shared by the average American.
Akin was hit with a question on this subject, and instead of admitting outright he was against abortion for victims of rape he tried to sugarcoat his views by some easily refuted screwy science he’d heard somewhere before, probably in some echo chamber that constantly tells him how great a job he’s doing.
For all of those squealing that we should now hold our nose and continue to support Akin in his effort to become Senator Akin, consider this simple fact – if his views were consistent with the views of his would-be constituents then why didn’t he just come right out and say he was against abortion even in the case of rape?
No, on some level even he realized that was a losing proposition that most would disagree with and tried to mumble through some BS science theory and has been burnt to a crisp because of it.
He does not have the chops to be in the game at this level.
Scott! You’re winning me another four years. Will you believe me if I tell you that Todd Akin is an angel compared to me, and that I’ll make your life miserable when I win this election because you don’t have the brains or guts to know better? He may be stupid or lazy, though he isn’t really, but if he is, he’s still nowhere near me in those departments, not by a long shot, you should know that by now shouldn’t you? And talk about ego! I’m the Big Ego by far, a certified narcissist of the very highest ordure. Tops. A world class megalomaniac. But why do I waste by breath on you?
Sigh…if only you were as funny as you think you are – or funny at all for that matter.
scott, that’s right, public executions are never funny, joke or not, you don’t get it.
“Public executions”?
Who was executed?
The only thing that has died as far as I know are chances of a Republican pick up of the Missouri Senate seat.
“Here’s the thing.
Akin is on record as opposing abortion even in the case of rape”
Really!?
Heres the thing, Scott…. SO FREAKING WHAT?
I dont quite agree with his position myself, and maybe I wouldnt vote for the guy because of it…
But its not anyone elses job, outside of his own constituants, to decide if that MATTERS.
Who elected the Media as Supreme Pontificate, to declare what is and is not a “forbidden” topic, a “forbidden” position, or a “forbidden” opinion?
Why do YOU believe, that YOUR position, opinion, or preference, should have Absolute Veto Power over who is allowed to even SEEK an office?
If you dont like the guy, vote against him. If you cant, then send money to his opponent in the Primary.
After that, just shut your Whining Arrogant Elitest, Media Surrendering mouth, and let the process men have DIED for, run its course.
Declaring him “forbidden” to run because of what he believes, is kinda/sorta a commie/statist thang, and you really ought to drop it.
“Declaring him “forbidden” to run because of what he believes, is kinda/sorta a commie/statist thang, and you really ought to drop it.”
Reading comprehension must not be your forte ya overbearing self-righteous sychophant. PLEASE quote where I state – since you are using quotation marks as if I said it – WHERE I said in that specific comment that he was “forbidden” to run for office?
Hmmm?
To repeat myself since you seem to have a serious reading comprehension disability:
“Akin was hit with a question on this subject, and instead of admitting outright he was against abortion for victims of rape he tried to sugarcoat his views by some easily refuted screwy science he’d heard somewhere before, probably in some echo chamber that constantly tells him how great a job he’s doing.”
I’ll explain it since you apparently can’t read above a 3rd grade level, I’m specifically pointing out that he tried to weasel his way through instead of simply stating his beliefs openly.
The reference that he does not support abortion even in the case of rape is the basic fact upon which the above quoted point was being made.
If you note, I didn’t say his view on this was right or wrong in that comment – I simply pointed out that it was at odds what what a majority of people believed. This contradiction in what he believes vs. what a majority of his hoped for constituents believe is a problem for him.
But of course he can take your approach and continue to stick his head in the sand.
I then proceed to note that even Akin realizes this is an unpopular position as he tried to dodge it – and he failed miserably.
If you want to get your panties in a twist, go fuss at Akin. After all, he’s the idjit that started this whole ball rolling.
As for whether he should run for office or not, my position is he has fatally damaged his campaign and is only dragging others down with him.
And yes, just to pi$$ you off – I still maintain he SHOULD remove himself from the campaign and let a better candidate run instead who would have a better chance of winning.
Scott,
Excuse if you can, a touch of background information that is crucial for this conversation to have any useful purpose: Note also I’m typing fast without looking, and the THird Grade was almost 50 years ago for me, so bear with me on spelling.
Liberal Democrats stand for Un-restricted abortion, for any reason, right up to delivery…and will allow a “botched abortion “, that is, a healthy living child who “fell” ouside the wonb during the “procedure”, to be disposed of, alive and without any aid or intervention, as medical waste with the bloody sheets. 4 times Obama supported this as a State Senator.
However poorly articulated, Mr Akins has the exact polar opposite view. That EVEN in cases of rape, its unjustified to kill the child.
BOTH positions, IMHO, are rather extreme…they are absolute, opposite extremes. Such is the controversy of Abortion.
I accept it.
I expect it.
Neither position is, OR SHOULD BE, a disqualifer to anyone but those asked to VOTE for the people who hold them, no matter HOW awkwardly revealed…Its just that simple.
The Democrats have Ideological litmus tests.
We SHOULD not.
You are indeed correct in that you did not use the word “forbid” in our conversation, but you do clearly support the action.
The action that The RINOS of the GOP have capitualated, so sickeningly to…
Namely, that Akins simply MUST step down for no OTHER reason than the All Powerful Media has revealed a “forbidden” political position he holds….and now threatens to maliciously and PARTISANLY harm the overal GOP with in their broad brush of disingenuous, false, one sided “outrage”.
That is extortion.
That is Surrender.
That is enableing the Left to continue Their Narrative, now further emboldened to do even more outrageous things in the future.
That is why I condemn the RINOS and Moderates over this issue.
Because it was THEY, in their panic and immaturity, who willingly RELINQUISHED AUTHORITY over what is and what is NOT an acceptable political position for someone to hold, to a Leftest Cabal of Partisan Democrats that will never, NEVER be truthful or treat us with respect, no matter HOW much we kiss their ass.
Whining and crying that Leftest Media Machines present an “impenetrable swamp of doom” that can never ever be crossed, and therfore only subtley diffrent versions of THEIR Political Positions can be held by any of us, lest we upset these Lords and Masters, and be denied the crumbs we seek.
Sorry, but I expect more from a Party thats supposedly gives a shit about the truth.
I’ve posted “the Akins Response” elsewhere that a REAL LEADER could have easily delivered, and nipped this thing before it even began.
But that would have taken Confidence and Courage, neither of which is in abundent supply among Moderates and RINOS.
Sniviling cowards that they are
“You are indeed correct in that you did not use the word “forbid” in our conversation, but you do clearly support the action.”
You were actually seeming coherent right up to the first half of that remark – and then you went off the rails again.
I do not support “forbidding” anyone to run for higher office as long as they meet the legal qualifications to run. You are reaching an assumption with no evidence or basis of fact to support said assumption. I invite you to quote where I am actually using such language.
However, that doesn’t mean I am likewise obligated to be supportive of a fatally flawed candidate who hasn’t a snowball’s chance in hell of winning – and I am even less inclined to be supportive of him when he is holding his hands out for funding from the national party after knowingly accepting donations from the Democrat opponent in a Republican primary when his two Republican opponents were polling well ahead of him when compared to McCaskill and apparently a large number of nominal democrat voters voted in the Republican primary for the weakest candidate.
The only obstacle to putting a more viable candidate up against McCaskill now is Akin himself.
Then there is the matter of how he actually handled the question. Instead of stating clearly that he believes a woman should be required to carry to term a pregnancy that resulted from rape – he tried to dodge it and fell flat on his face.
His belief is at odds with the position most voters hold. He knew this and knew it was a problem – otherwise why would he try to rationalize his position with junk science?
He should have had a plan for how to deal with this contradiction between his personal views and the views the majority of the public holds.
He should have formulated some type of answer along the lines that this was his personal view, but it was not necessarily the view he would seek to impose at the national level and it was a personal matter.
Instead, he tried to play junk science.
There is no explaining that away and it only made him look more foolish.
He was already on record as holding that position. He had to have known it was going to be a question posed to him in an interview at some point – and yet he was still absolutely unprepared to answer it in a convincing manner when it was tossed.
If he were confining the damage to his own candidacy, even that would be acceptable as he would only be damaging himself.
Unfortunately, he’s being used as a weapon against Republican candidates all across the country and is giving the leftists a rallying point and boosting their morale as vast swaths of the electorate make it clear in no uncertain terms that they disagree with Akin’s views.
THIS makes it everyone’s problem.
If Akin insists on clinging to the campaign then he has an uphill battle that he is likely to lose and there is no reason for the national party to take part in his folly.
If Akin withdraws, one of the other two candidates in the primary can step in instantly and you suddenly have a real horse race and the Republican candidate – who would also be considered conservative – can unseat the egregious McCaskill.
If another candidate steps in and replaces Akin, you will have the party and the grassroots close ranks behind this candidate as the source of division within the Republican ranks – Akin himself – is now removed from the equation.
If Akin steps aside, he ceases to be a weapon in the hands of the leftists to be used against the Republican party.
If Akin steps aside, the left loses a senate seat.
But I expect Akin is so convinced of his own righteousness that he will stay in the race to the bitter end – and be blamed forevermore for McCaskill going back to the Senate for another six years.
Because Todd Aikin could not be bothered to rehearse stock responses to Democrat/MSM stock gotcha questions he has thrown away the Republican chance to take the Missouri Senate seat and possibly the chance of Mitt Romney winning the state.
We will see just how bad that will be in November. If Obama is appointing new Supreme Court justices next year to be confirmed by a narrowly Democrat Senate, how likely is it that they will make the Supreme Court more Pro Life?
Todd Aikin blew it because he is either stupid or lazy. He refuses to fix it because of his ego.
The worst part about Akin is that his staying in the race draws unwarranted attention to the policy positions of Paul Ryan. Yes, Akin’s misguided beliefs about biology are ridiculous, but worse still is his position that women who have been raped (forcibly, legitimately, statutorily, or otherwise). A “no exceptions” policy regarding abortion may be great for the true believers but is a losing issue electorally.
“A “no exceptions” policy regarding abortion may be great for the true believers but is a losing issue electorally”
Maybe so…how bout we let the electorate prove that theory, in stead of telling them who their ALLOWED to vote for?
Just sayin
Egos gone ballistic over his slip of the tongue flatter their own even more, that’s what’s losing Missouri.
Well, this has been a warm and cozy place for concern trolls today.
I am from Missouri, and have completely lost faith in the RNC after yesterday’s powergrab.
But to address this subject, I had never heard of Todd Aiken before this and have not talked to anyone who voted for him. I looked up his record, and it stands very strong against McCaskill’s. Not that THAT is anything out of the ordinary. Mr. Snuffleupagus could have easily beat Claire this year until this.
Yes, what he said was terrible, but the RNC threw him under the bus immediately, all the while talking about how important this seat is for the R’s to win.
THEN they showcase Santorium to show us all how pro-life the party is, when they did not have the cajones to stand behind a successful pro-life candidate who should have been able to phone it in and bring them another victory.
Shooting themselves in the foot with a 12 gauge? More like emptying a clip as long as they kept talking about this.
RIP RNC. I’ll remember you fondly.
JeremyR is right. The leaders of the GOP miscalculated terribly. The figured they would put pressure on this man who fought a very tough 3 man race in the primary to just give up. Unfortunately, in so doing, they simply legitimized the democrat’s charge that the GOP had a “war on women.” If the GOP leaders, including Romney, had come out in defense of him by saying he misspoke and that’s the end of it, it would probably have blown over by now. Instead, they give legs to the perception that the GOP has a war on women’s reproductive rights by demanding Akin’s resignation.
Since Akin did not step aside, they have indeed shot themselves in the foot because they miscalculated. Even though they are the ones who truly screwed up, they now are left with saying Akin is the one who is selfish. Further, if Akin did step aside, who would chose the replacement, Preibus, Romney (the liberal)? Perhaps we should be calling for Romney and Preibus to step aside because they exercised such poor judgment in this situation. Quite frankly, I consider Preibus and Romney to be more idiotic than the even Akin’s statement because at least Preibus and Romney had time to think about how they should play this situation. Preibus and Romney have painted themselves in a corner because they cannot possibly backtrack from their current position. This only gives McCaskill a far better chance of winning.
Oops, now I should step aside. I meant to say momiss was right instead of JeremyR. With that, I step aside for this horrible mistake.
and so are you, JohnnyLaw
sad, but true.
sad but true.
Akin is not going to win, period. It’s foolish to waste money.
He is the stereotype of a Republican as seen by a liberal – a religious theocrat that can’t wait to start legislating morality. The same type absolutely scares the hell out of moderate voters.
McCaskill was probably going to win the minute he got nominated, but after those comments, it’s going to be a landslide.
nationwide now, not because of Akin’s slip, but the Repub’s panicky nervous breakdown.
I am not an Obama troll. I can’t stand him. He will ruin our country for good.
But who can trust you stupid nervous nellies, bluntly, cowards, to do any better?
You idiots!
Exactly right…
The Moderates and RINOS fled in panic at the first sound of saber rattling….
People with an ounce of self confidence could have said:
“hey, y’know, lots of positions on abortion…some like (name democrat names!) go all the way to post-birth infanticide, while some like My Akins say life begins at conception and even rape doesn’t justify killing the child…Gee, folks, imagine that, abortion is a controversial topic in America” and just shrugged off their false outrage.
The Moderates and RINOS failed us again, just like they always do. Those Demo-light Elitists have to try SOOOO hard, in JUST the right light, to show that tiny shade of gray that separates then from the Commies….Frantically shouting “see, SEE?….Im not HIM!” .
You break ranks at the first volley. Drop your musket. Run in panic.
Lastly, you beg for mercy while damning your side, in the hope of being spared the bayonet as the enemy YOU relinquished the field to, advances unopposed.
EVERY
SINGLE
TIME
This is one of the most frustrating, silly debates in recent memory. We all know liberals live in an echo chamber, where they only hear opinions that agree with what they themselves believe, and where anyone who disagrees is ostracized. It’s always frustrated me that there are some–not many, but some–Socons who are in the same boat. They tend to have the smug and very self-assured belief that if only their views were clearly explained to everyone, they’d win all the elections by margins of 50% or more. It’s only those evil Democrats, their friends in the media, and the “traitor” fiscal conservatives, who betray them and succeed in keeping them the marginalized fringe that they are.
Here’s a news flash: the Republican Party can’t win the abortion debate if they insist that all babies be brought to term, regardless of anything. Kill the mother? No problem, we’ll just let it happen. Mother was raped? Well, that’s probably not legitimate rape, because women don’t get pregnant if they’re forced to have sex. Incest…we don’t talk about that…
What you read above, ladies and gentlemen, is a prescription for the Republican Party to lock 15-20% of the vote up, and cede everything else to the Democrats. The rest of the country can then become like California, where we build multi-billion “high-speed” rail systems for which we don’t have a penny, our school boards borrow $100 million and promise that a future generation will pay back almost $900 million in return, and we finance everything publicly, regardless of the cost.
Great idea. We lose the election, become Greece with nuclear weapons, and all because some moron I never heard of until this opened his mouth and removed all doubt about his intellectual capacity. Everyone says he needs to be forgiven…what you’re not remembering is that this dimwit is still a candidate, and he’s going to be in front of a microphone every day between now and the election. Now that he’s made a jackass of himself publicly, every Democrat in the country’s going to be parsing his every word. Anyone think that’s going to go well?
We had the chance to talk about the economy, and this moron changed the subject to abortion, and did so in such a way that the party’s bound to lose the argument. So we lose, and we can righteously and indignantly insist, as the country goes down the tube, that if only they’d listened to us…
Damn this is frustrating.
We had the chance to talk about the economy, and this moron changed the subject to abortion, and did so in such a way that the party’s bound to lose the argument. So we lose, and we can righteously and indignantly insist, as the country goes down the tube, that if only they’d listened to us…
IMO, 66.6% of GOP defeats since William Howard Taft are due to “Friendly Fire”.
“’I just think that the people who want to do something special are always better than the people who want to be somebody special,’ Priebus said.”
Now, that comment is straight out of ‘Boyd.’ (–Robert Coran). It would appear that Priebus is operating inside Mr. Atkin’s OODA loop, I can’t wait to see what happens next.
A brief glance at the Rasmussen numbers on the Missouri election will convince most anyone that Atkin’s candidacy is a lost cause. After all, offending 53% of the voting population cannot easily be interpreted as an act of genius.
Priebus may be thinking: “Well, he took $1.5M from the Democrats, why does he deserve funding from us? After all, after that transaction, how can anyone know where his loyalties lie? Which leads us to the answer to the original question: the evidence suggests that he wants to -be someone- rather than -do something-. Boyd would probably have laughed, shrurgged, and then transferred the officer to Thule.
is Atkin? Atkin? Never heard of him. What are you’re talking about?
Agreed. Unfortunately you have the willfully blind running around claiming polls are meaningless.
Granted, the only poll that matters is the one on election day – but a decent poll can certainly give you a reasonable expectation of what will happen and it doesn’t look good for Akin.
wGraves makes a point. Sure Akin said something the democrats can use against him, but his real trouble began when Preibus and Romney piled on. If I were Akin I would never step aside at the request of Preibus and Romney, who are the very ones who have brought his numbers so low. Akin should be pissed that Preibus and Romney did not come to his defense. Now, Akin should step aside for the good of the party, when Preibus and Romney never gave one thought to what was best, they just wanted to have a hand in picking his successor. It infuriates me to the point I am going to contribute to Akin’s campaign just to protest how Romney and Preibus tried to screw this guy. This type of politics is the reason why people are so fed up with government and politics as usual. Unfortunately, it appears with Romney and Preibus, we are going to get just more of the same.
is also the reason why, to the party’s disgrace, Sarah Palin was not invited to speak at the convention,
and why Boehner bashed Michelle Bachmann’s call for investigating Huma Abedin’s security clearance.
Allen West has beed excluded from speaking at the convention also.