Currently the Real Clear Politics electoral map shows President Obama in the lead with 221 electoral votes from states that are either solid, likely, or leaning.
As most of you know, 270 is the number needed to win the presidency.
Seeing this chart makes me want to tear my hair out and scream, “What is wrong with you people?” How could Obama be leading 221 to Romney’s 181 with our economy stuck in neutral and millions of voters believing that it is Obama’s policies keeping us there?
Here is a possible answer to those important questions perplexing both the Romney campaign and the Republican Party.
The election is not just all about jobs and the economy. It is also about negative opinions and cultural issues that voters hold about Republicans in general.
Let me explain.
Here is a line of questioning I emailed a handful of friends and family spread across the nation, some in battleground states, who I know voted for Obama in 2008 and who I assumed were planning on voting for him again:
Are there any circumstances you can imagine that would cause you to vote against Obama and vote for Romney instead?
Is there anything Obama could do or say? For example, how about a negative change in your personal job situation or if the unemployment rate reached 14%?
Anything at all that would move you to change your vote away from Obama?
For the record, the demographics of this group are as follows:
All are in their 30’ and married; some have children.
They are all white, college-educated, and gainfully employed.
Here are the answers I received via email.
Answer #1
To answer the questions, no, there is nothing Obama could do to ever have me vote for Romney or any other Republican. EVER. I vote Democratic for the platform of women’s rights, pro-choice, the environment, the separation of church and state, which seems in jeopardy if Republicans have their way.
I do not trust Romney at all. He is a flip-flopper and says what he thinks his crowd wants to hear. There are more issues to being president than getting people jobs, and I am sick of that being the only focus. So, I would NEVER vote Republican.
Answer #2
Nope, there really is nothing that could get me to switch from Obama to Romney. I really don’t consider myself blindly loyal; I would support a moderate Republican over a weaker non-Obama Democratic candidate (like Huntsman for example), who is willing to be bi-partisan and have some damn common sense.
I just strongly dislike Romney and am nothing short of horrified at anyone supporting a constitutional amendment to TAKE AWAY people’s rights (especially for a party who supposedly wants minimal government intervention into society, that is a blatantly hypocritical thing to support), not to mention open and callous contempt for scientific fact and freedom of religion, along with a mean-spirited, childlike unwillingness to compromise and get things done in favor of a desire to unseat someone who has been trying to compromise in a bipartisan fashion.
Oh, and not to mention complete flip-flopping on most issues and distancing himself from his state’s obviously successful healthcare reform, which is magnified by an almost comical wonkish, old-money, out-of-touch elitist attitude dripping from nearly every word that comes out of his mouth.
The longer the Republicans try to cater to their extreme fringe right and support backwards, short-sighted, bigoted social policies, the more sensible moderates–BOTH Democrat and Republican–they’re going to alienate. It’s saddening that GOP campaigns feel like they have to garner the support of the most fanatical minority instead of listening to the majority of people in their own party who just want a little fiscal responsibility and to leave more things for the states to decide.
Not to open a political debate — Lord knows we’ve had enough of that — but I hope you will pass on that sentiment, which is shared by millions of sensible hardworking Americans, to your focus group.
Answer #3
If Romney came out promising to decriminalize marijuana (yeah right). (I’m hoping Obama will do it at the start of his second term.)
If Obama imposed a military draft. (Not likely unless we get invaded by someone other than Mexico…)
If the Rominee converted to Tibetan Buddhism, vowed to sanction China completely, and learned to levitate by Halloween…
Honestly I am trying here, but this is an extremely unlikely proposition. The Republicans, with the help of the Boehner, Rove, Koch Inc, and their incessant campaigns against Planned Parenthood, gun control, the failed drug war, etc., just seem to have pushed themselves into an intractable position that is utterly unappealing to anyone educated outside of a fundamentalist / conservative church, or a bank… Lol. They don’t make sense to the majority of secularized, liberal whites, and virtually represent the Enemy to all racial minorities with darker skin.
It is not so much Romney, as what he represents as the Republican candidate.
Answer #4
Lol — no I actually voted McCain (although now I’m leaning Obama for sure).
I like Romney — but Obama hasn’t done anything that I strongly disagree with… he’s played the fence pretty well. If he went off the partisan deep end, I would probably reconsider.
Certainly, this is not a scientific poll, but what this group of responsible adults in their mid-30s are basically saying is social issues will keep them voting for Obama and, in the last case, strongly leaning toward Obama.
So what is the take-away from this little bi-section of Obama voters? It is that culture war issues coupled with a negative view of the Republican brand are playing a much larger role in the Obama vs. Romney campaign battle than anyone in the GOP cares to admit.
Therefore, it is not just “the economy stupid,” it is “the culture bro” that these voters in their thirties have grown up in. They now believe it is Republicans and Romney who represent a threat to their values.
So while Romney keeps talking about jobs, jobs, jobs to these white upper-middle class voters who now have good professional jobs, and who, I believe, represent millions of voters born in the ’70s and ’80s to baby-boomer parents, the economy is not of paramount importance.
Obama will get their vote, regardless, because in the words of one of the respondents, Republicans “don’t make sense to the majority of secularized, liberal whites, and virtually represent the enemy to all racial minorities with darker skin.”
This attitude does not bode well for Romney’s prospects or for the future of the Republican Party.
“They are all white, college educated and gainfully employed.”
You wondered if the economy was important to this group?
I wonder what answer you would get if you asked them how they were going to pay their part of the national debt? Or, with Social Security having loaned out $70 Trillion to the largest debtor in the history of the world how they felt about paying into this flailing system. I figure the economy is going to become important to them really soon they just don’t know it. Ignorant is no way to go through life.
This mirrors my experience with similar demographics. I truly feel like I’m on crazy pills talking to these folks. People who I’ve known forever and are by all accounts well grounded – still believe that Obama is doing a great job. No argument can convince them otherwise. Some believe he is doing the best he can after having been dealt a bad hand by GW. Some are adamant that abortion would be in imminent danger if a Republican were put into the presidency again. Some believe it has been the GOP holding him back, preventing him from spending enough money (yes, people think the stimulus was too SMALL!). Apparently there are lots of people who argue that Romney is just too boring to be president. He certainly isn’t the rock star that Obama is made out to be…
This is a major problem with our 2 party system. Because politicians make their name by “doing stuff” it is a real challenge to have a true conservative in politics who adheres to the Constitution by not doing stuff. I’m not saying Romney is a conservative by the by, nor do I think he will be a restrained President. But he can’t go to the American people with a message that the answer to our problems is basically to have less government. Bottom line is that we are all screwed, but Romney and the legacy GOP will screw us slower.
The key to a lot of these folks is “college educated”, or, more correctly, college indoctrinated. Four years of koolaid in, looney lib out. With few exceptions, they have been taught feeling=thinking and they feel like they belong with their oh-so-wise professors, the true elite.
About the time they hit forty, and all these deficits hit, they may change their minds- too little and too late.
So, if these folks would not vote for a Romney (we told you so) what is the motivation to want to give these folks a middle-of-the-road moderate like Romney? They say (lying I believe) that they would like to see a moderate Republican. We give them Romney. They overload Romney with all kinds of objections (hey, no matter whom you gave them, that person would have something a Democrat would find objectionable).
So, that’s my point. F’ them. They’re not going to vote Republican. Because they’re Democrats. End of story.
So, let’s give them people like Allen West and Rand Paul and … so on. Because they’re not going to vote for them anyway.
I second the motion.
it’s too late now. idiots are idiots, and we’re stuck. all the fighters, like west, gingrich, palin, etc., have to hit the campaign trail somehow and hit hard. the economy, sure, but also on national security, which is the real issue.
There is a reason these folks make you think you’re on crazy pills when you talk to them: they’re crazy. And you can’t reason with crazy.
“They are all…college educated.”
You have just proved, to all practical purposes, that education does not equal intelligence.
Who exactly is supporting a constitutional amendment to TAKE AWAY people’s rights?
Who has an open and callous contempt for scientific fact? (hint: the Dems are the ones trying to repeal the laws of economics)
OBAMA has been trying to compromise in a bipartisan fashion? In what alternate universe?
And that’s only a sample. Sorry, you need a smarter class of friends and family.
What matters is that they hold these opinions and they vote.
Frightening, isn’t it? The future of the country riding on the backs of sheep…
So be it. If we cannot win on our values, America deserves to lose her liberty. Not one inch must be compromised on the non-negotiables: there is to be no legalized abortion, no embryonic stem cell or other research destructive to human life, no legalized euthanasia, no tolerance of infanticide and honor killings, no recognition of so-called same sex marriage and no laws abridging freedom of speech and religion (not freedom of worship, but freedom of religion, which includes not only the right to worship freely, but also the right to practice your faith publicly, through any ministry that does not do violence to others). If we cannot win on those issues, then let us lose, and if any fiscal conservative says otherwise, may your precious wealth vanish in a single day!
Could not have said it better. For people who always lecture on the virtue of tolerance, they sure don’t seem to show much.
Well, that’s depressing. It also may explain the “college-for-all” crusade–as Santorum said earlier in the year, many modern universities function as indoctrination factories.
Your friend’s responses are a combination of incoherent (I vote for Romney if he either decriminalized mj or reinstated the draft – wtf?) dishonest (I’d vote for Huntsman) and an internalization of strawmen (republicans hate women and want to fundamentally take rights away).
They are a lost cause.
Maybe at some point they will wake up and see reality, maybe they won’t, in either case it will not be because of something you or Romney says this year.
Unscientific, certainly, but a pretty terrifying informal poll.
One of the things I’ve noticed is that over the last couple of decades, almost any novel I pick up, from romantic adventure to murder mystery, has gratuitous put downs of Republicans. Nothing to do with plot or character development in the story, just a consistent drum beat to create the impression that anyone who is not totally disdainful of Republicans has something wrong with him/her. It is a stealthy propaganda barrage that is almost grand conspiracy-like. A way to make it totally “uncool” to like anyone you meet who is Republican, and beyond the pale to BE one.
I’ve forwarded this latest from you to bunches of folks.
Susan
This is a depressingly familiar practice in television dramas, too, where it’s not just gratuitous references to current politics in otherwise non-political plot lines. The intolerant Christian evangelical (see comment #10, below), the (criminally) mercenary corporate boss, the racist southerner, etc., are more ubiquitous stock characters than ever. In a nice bit of cognitive dissonance, you have the right wing, anti-government fanatic on the one hand, while on the other, you have Patriot Act government agencies subjecting random people to untold horrors in undisclosed locations.
Such stereotypes infuse pop culture at every level, and yet for some reason, conservatives who are so quick to pounce on university indoctrination have an unfortunate habit of treating the suggestion (and those who make it) that Republicans have got a serious branding problem with unwarranted contempt. Once upon a time, the right was so successful at turning the word “liberal” into a pejorative, that liberals rebranded themselves as “progressives.” It’s high time conservatives recognized that the left is now returning the favor. Even where positive conservative trends exist, the general public does not associate them with a Republican dynamic. That’s why memes like “Tea Party extremists” can gain such traction, even though tea party concerns are widely shared across the board.
Like it or not, the republican party will never win another presidency unless and until they let go of the pro-life moral position. Based on controversial religious theology, the majority of Americans frankly consider it to be a fanatic’s choice to deny women the right to choice. If Republicans want a chance they have to stop trying to impose their religious beliefs on others, and focus on legitimate economic platforms that do not leave the lower class impoverished by health care bills. Further denial of human-caused climate change and evolutionary theory do not help. No one wants to vote for someone they consider to be delusional, if they have a choice anyway. May you be free of suffering, om.
As I said, the right to life is non-negotiable. If we cannot win the Presidency and be pro-life, may we never win the Presidency again!
Based on controversial religious theology, the majority of Americans frankly consider it to be a fanatic’s choice to deny women the right to choice.
Actually, that’s factually wrong.
American’s have been trending towards the prolife position for decades and now a majority call themselves that.
depends on who you ask.
some polls agree with your point:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/118399/more-americans-pro-life-than-pro-choice-first-time.aspx ( for the first time since 1995, in 2009)
others show a wide disparity , in favor of pro-choice:
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/09/16/321396/poll-majority-of-americans-are-pro-choice-despite-gop-push-to-ban-abortion/?mobile=nc (do you trust cnn? lol..)
others are a bit closer.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/americans-more-pro-choice-but-morally-against-abortion-50424/
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it’s nice to live in an internet bubble talking to people who believe the same nonsense you do, but you only reinforce your own incorrect opinions if you keep that up. have a nice day
You might be right about a platform to criminalize or ban abortion. From polls I’ve seen, for whatever they are worth, most Americans seem to prefer the status quo: regulate abortion but leave it legal. Perhaps the GOP should put more emphasis on proper regulation and ending all public funding for abortion rather than claiming it wants to ban it? Frankly, I’ve seen very little progress from the GOP over the past 40 years on that front anyways. In many ways it’s a shame, being pro-life myself, but it does seem to be the reality.
Biological fact — life begins at the moment of conception. How is that radical?
G, were you trying to maximize the fail content of that message?
“Based on controversial religious theology, the majority of Americans frankly consider it to be a fanatic’s choice to deny women the right to choice.”
What’s your point? Do you think the R’s will be able to overturn Roe V Wad ,even with both houses? If not, than it’s a non-issue as far as deciding on a candidate.
If Republicans want a chance they have to stop trying to impose their religious beliefs on others..”
Please describe and document evidence of same.
…and focus on legitimate economic platforms that do not leave the lower class impoverished by health care bills.”
Repeal Obamacare and put actual health-care reform in place.
“Further denial of human-caused climate change and evolutionary theory do not help.”
Global warming is a demonstrated fact. Human-caused climate change is a marginal theory, against which evidence is growing every day. Who is the denier here? And please describe how doubts about evolutionary theory affect in any way the legislation that is passed.
“No one wants to vote for someone they consider to be delusional, if they have a choice anyway.”
I agree. Why would anyone vote for Obama, or any Democrat, when they are completely delusional on how government does an does not work?
“May you be free of suffering…”
Sounds good to me. Voting Obama back in is going to maximize suffering.
Well your first point is good, but you miss mine completely. People don’t want to vote for someone they consider a religous fanatic; and the so-called ‘pro-life’ stance is a fanatic’s choice, driven by questionable religious dogma. The last President to feel that way was Bush, and he was only made President by the Supreme Court, not the majority of the population. (spare me the details please)
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As far as imposing beliefs on others, the entire assault on Planned Parenthood and related abortion-issues in GOP-led states is evidence of this attempt to impose religious ideology on a population. Although they clothe it in the arguments of ‘safety for the woman’ as they try to regulate them out of business, it is a simple sham anyone on the other side of the fence can see.
You can also add the drug war to this issue; marijuana use was prohibited under the same reasons alcohol originally was during prohibition, demonized as a sinful activity leading to depravity. The fact is the majority of Americans no longer agree, as they have slowly moved away from such authoritarian, church-supported political dogma.
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‘Obamacare’ lol, while imperfect, is far better than nothing, and will leave the lower economic class with a chance to pay their medical bills instead of bankruptcy. You can rant about all the reasons you don’t like it, but frankly most of them are based on a simple dislike of Obama, and an unwillingness to admit that nothing better was ever offered under previous administrations, the majority of which were Republican.
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Attempts to deny man-made climate change are just silly; if you can’t understand the science behind CO2 accumulation in the atmosphere and the oceans, then you should go back to school.
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The Texas Board of Education has made a habit of creating textbooks that give credence to the arguments of creationism vs evolution, as have several other state education boards. The impact of this is simply to discourage students from pursuing true science and instead to rely on dogma, which has helped to create our nation’s lagging scores in math and science, which will ultimately make us less competitive economically and less secure defensively, as we produce further scientists and engineers. But they will all know their Bible, right? lol… peace!
G, Your first response is simply a restatement of your beliefs re: abortion. Beliefs, not fact. What makes it a fanatic’s choice? Although I am not a believer, IO recognize that one has to define life as beginning at some point – or you remove murder as a crime. Think about it. Is it a fanatic’s choice to define that at conception, or is it a fanatic’s choice to allow partial-birth abortion, like Obama?
Imposing dogma on the population? I have been on the receiving end of that for years from the “liberals”. I agree; I want that stopped.
I agree about the failed war on drugs; let people go to hell in their own way. The Obama administration does not agree. Why should I support them?
Obamacare is a cure worse than the disease. And I’m very sorry to tell you this, but the fact that nothing better was ever offered under previous administrations is not an excuse for this idiocy.
Man-made climate change is a religion – I thought you didn’t like religion? It has no basis in fact, it explains absolutely everything (snow? heat? rain? drought? It’s all humanity’s fault!), and promises a doom that only the anointed can save us from. There has been no measurable effect on the climate due to CO2, and lots of people fudging data. I understand the theory quite well thank you: unlike most of the “climate doom” crowd, I’ve actually studied science and realize that the so-called models won’t work. You might want to consider your own advice and return to school. Don’t even try this tack.
Your last paragraph is simply incoherent. Are you aware of the backgrounds of some of the most famous names in science? The reason schools don’t teach math and science isn’t due to creation believers. What is the political orientation of the vast majority of teachers and allied professions? The reason science and math get short shrift in (government) schools is because if they teach kids to think for themselves, they’ll see through the BS that liberals try to sell in a heartbeat.
“Well your first point is good, but you miss mine completely. People don’t want to vote for someone they consider a religous fanatic; and the so-called ‘pro-life’ stance is a fanatic’s choice, driven by questionable religious dogma.”
For some, perhaps. For others, no I couldn’t disagree with you more. There are even folks who call themselves “pro-choice” when it comes to whether abortion should be legal or not, but are personally “pro-life” about it. I have moral qualms about such a position because a human life is involved, even if just “potential, but given the lack of absolute certainty for either position can understand it. I could even respect it to an extent IF it comes from a libertarian mindset.
“The last President to feel that way was Bush, and he was only made President by the Supreme Court, not the majority of the population. (spare me the details please)”
Ok. Yet it should be pointed out that Bush became president as outlined in the Constitution just like all the rest, especially relevant were John Q. Adams, Rutherford B. Hayes and Benjamin Harrison. It should also be noted that a majority of the American electorate DID support Bush for re-election instead of tossing out “His Fraudulency” (ref. Harrison) in 2004. No other previous president who lost the popular vote but won the Electoral College in their first run can say that. Nevertheless, Bush isn’t president anymore so this is now all an argument for history classes.
“Although they clothe it in the arguments of ‘safety for the woman’ as they try to regulate them out of business, it is a simple sham anyone on the other side of the fence can see.”
Funny, most proposed regulations I’ve seen – except for those outright banning abortion – are usually supported by the majority of voters. If abortion is to be considered a legal medical procedure than it is subject to regulation just like every other one is. In addition, abortion may be a right according to SCOTUS but isn’t entitled to public funding. You want an abortion? Ok. Pay for it yourself.
“You can also add the drug war to this issue; marijuana use was prohibited under the same reasons alcohol originally was during prohibition, demonized as a sinful activity leading to depravity. The fact is the majority of Americans no longer agree, as they have slowly moved away from such authoritarian, church-supported political dogma.”
I agree with you on marijuana and the failure of the Drug War, but the continuation of this isn’t exclusively on the Republican side. Democrats have been quite active on this front as well. Since I’m of a more libertarian mindset on this and the country seems to be moving more to my way of thinking on this, we should see some changes in the next decade.
“‘Obamacare’ lol, while imperfect, is far better than nothing, and will leave the lower economic class with a chance to pay their medical bills instead of bankruptcy. You can rant about all the reasons you don’t like it, but frankly most of them are based on a simple dislike of Obama, and an unwillingness to admit that nothing better was ever offered under previous administrations, the majority of which were Republican.”
Republicans like Democrats have been creating huge government programs for decades. Bush with his MediCare presciption drug addition was the last example I recall of a Republican doing this. All of this is true. IMO the GOP has little to no credibility on this matter because of it’s own past behavior. Having said that, the Democrats have even less credibility. Both parties are spending us into bankruptcy. I oppose Obamacare because it’s nothing more than yet another government boondoggle that we cannot maintain. There may be things in it that I might support by themselves, but not the whol package.
“Attempts to deny man-made climate change are just silly; if you can’t understand the science behind CO2 accumulation in the atmosphere and the oceans, then you should go back to school.”
Believing that we can actually make a significant change to the climate is not only silly, but claims for AGW doesn’t even pass the most basic of scientific tests. Nothing that has been proposed to date to “end global warming” would make even the slightest change to warming trends around the globe that would justify the economic disaster and suffering – particularly to the poor – that such proposals would bring.
“The Texas Board of Education has made a habit of creating textbooks that give credence to the arguments of creationism vs evolution, as have several other state education boards.”
Indeed they have, which is completely disgraceful and makes a mockery of science.
“The impact of this is simply to discourage students from pursuing true science and instead to rely on dogma, which has helped to create our nation’s lagging scores in math and science, which will ultimately make us less competitive economically and less secure defensively, as we produce further scientists and engineers.”
As bad as such actions by religious activists have been on the evolution vs. creationism argument, I seriously doubt that it has had as much of an impact on the miserable math and science scores we’re seeing from public school students. No, that would seem to me to come more from the whole public school system which I do believe Democrats keep wanting to pour more and more money into yet we see very little return for. On this I’d say that the Republicans are right that some kind of school choice to end the government monopoly, and the stranglehold of the NEA that cares more for it’s union members than actually educating our children, is what needs to be done.
This race will be close for only one reason and one reason only – money. Romney has the most money on his side and as we all know advertising works. The problem is that there are only about four or five real states up for grabs and Obama can match money and even more -organization in those states pretty well.
Toss up – Iowa, Colorado, N Carolina, FL, and possibly MI.
Obama has NH, Nevada, Virginia, WI (close), and Ohio. Romney has Missouri and that’s it from the toss up states.
Plus the reason Obama will win is Romney has had to become severely conservative to win (I didn’t think he had to go that far as his field was really weak). The fight for the middle is where the action is and after the Supreme Court ACA decision and also Citizen’s United which for the center is very unpopular will all go against Romney. He should be way out front with this economy but his plans will only make matters worse for the economy.
Plus he will have to release more of his papers because as Joe Biden said: He wants to ask for your papers but won’t let you see his.
You gotta be kidding, Romney is going to take MI and NH with near Favorite Son status and Nevada with big Mormon turnout, you can say goodbye to VA and NC as well. Dream on money.
Don’t get cocky about Virginia, it IS still up for grabs. He could end up taking this state but there are many folks here who will vote for Obama or barring that, still won’t vote for Romney. I myself refuse to vote for Romney but instead will write in a different candidate.
NH is out of reach for Romney – I’ll give you MI could be a toss up but it will be a long short for let the auto industry go bankrupt. Nevada will be tough but the demographics are leaning to Obama. There is a reason MA and NH don’t like Romney that much – they know him.
The GOP should NEVER compromise its pro-life principles for votes. If the majority wants to send this country plunging straight to hell, so be it. We don’t have to assist in the effort.
Seriously, Obama has spent Millions hiding his records. College transcripts etc. First in modern history to cover up his school records and all of his papers… Plus the Fast and Furious coverup AND ROMNEY needs to release more records? I suggest Romney release his school records and say to Obama, you next! LOL
Wait. You ask LIBERALS what they think about Republicans, and then act shocked that they don’t like them? You’re not kidding are you?
Of course they’re going to be socially left-wing. They’re DEMOCRATS. They’re going to be ignoramuses. What do you think, that they were going to lay out a detailed and critical analysis of Obama’s presidency? Why don’t you ask some Republicans or independents what they think of social issues? Ask McCain voters about their views on the race.
You can’t do anything about family but you need some different friends. These people don’t sound like ‘responsible adults’ to me.
Honestly, this article isn’t really useful. I could send out the same email to my friends and family and all it would prove is that…we have different friends and family. This reminds me of Pauline Kael’s disbelief of Nixon winning election since ‘no one she knew had voted for him.’
To paraphrase someone else’s post: ‘haters gonna hate’. There’s no point trying to choose a candidate or a platform in an attempt to please people like this. Not unless we do what they want all Republicans to do: become Democrats.
“This just in! A poll (sample: 100% Democratic) finds Romney and Republicans are unpopular!”
Women’s rights blah blah blah? Explain why you stabbed Hillary in the back for this amateur if you were that concerned about vaginers? Obama has been a disaster for all of America, blacks most of all and women second. If you weren’t a liberal hack you’d be showing Bill Clinton your pussee online as i type.
I’m voting for Obama. I’m pretty sure Romney would add three wars (Syria, China, Russia) to the three we are in now (Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran).
You’re joking, right? If this is your reason to vote for Obama than it’s a very poor one. He has involved us in more places around the world, let alone increased drone strikes, than Bush could of dreamed of doing. Romney hasn’t indicated that he would try to outdo the man so your reasoning is flawed IMO.
John Wayne once said: “Life is tough; it’s even tougher when you’re stupid (DemoRAT). Nuff said.
Personally, I don’t believe anything is hurting Romney. The people who still believe in Obama aren’t paying attention and may, or may not, vote. There are a couple of reasons the Republican “brand” is damaged. First, the Republicans, those defenders of debt, tried to be “Democrate lite” during the Bush Administration. The Republicans, and the tea party, got rid of a lot of them. Secondly, we have Pravda and Izvestia, which used to be the pride of our country, a constitutionally protected free press, which is now little more than the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party. Yes, they still have the power to hold down Republican poll numbers however, looking at the poll numbers of the President, they can no longer prop up an incompetent President.
This says a lot more about Myra Adams’ choice of friends than about the US as a whole (and, implicitly, a lot about Myra Adams).
Fact: heavily skewed polls show a tossup election. This does not favor Adams’ weepy-waily thesis.
How do you think Adams’ friends would view the NRA? 68% of Americans have a positive view of it.
How do you think Adams’ friends would view the Keystone pipeline? A huge majority support it.
How do you think Adams’ friends view Obama’s executive privilege coverup of the gun control operation, Fast and Furious? A large majority oppose it.
Myra, you need either to get new friends, or just go the full David Frum route–which always starts with “Republicans are doomed unless they become more Democrat.” I note that Frum is now fully on board with gun control, which ought to endear him to the roughly 20% of the population who support it. Meanwhile, the GOP is literally becoming more mainstream by dumping fringe anti-gunners like Richard Lugar.
The polls showed the Wisconsin recall in a dead heat. Keep that in mind!!!!!
So the author has stupid friends? If someone is just going to mindlessly follow the left-wing conventional wisdom, there is really nothing Republicans can do to reach them.
Take look at the Western world at large. The current prevailing ideology within the ruling elite in the West is “Cultural Marxism”. The most salient pillars of this neo-Marxist creed is: “Pol.Corr. speech laws, “Multikulti-Diversity”, war on the concept of family by promoting homosexuality worldwide, anti-Christianity but pro Islamic stand.
Do you recognize it?
The president of the European Union is J.Manuel Barroso, a former Maoist Communist leader, the pres. of the EU parliament is M. Schultz, German Socialist with high school education only.
The antisemitic policy line is directed by the British Catherine Ashton, with grammar school and trade education in coal mining. Formerly associated with the Communist Party.
The US elite is from the same school of thought; -they have an absolute control over the fearful American citizenry. Any sign of challenge to their rule will be silenced by “code words” like – a short list of them:
Racist, bigot, homophobic, xenophobic, “this is racist” Nazi, Hitler, Jim Crow, “McCarty-ism” etc.
The American citizens obey. Europeans much less.
The Culture war started in the 60′s by the American New Left and now they will savor the sweet taste of victory.
Obama will be reelected.
Please, go join Myra Adams and Devil Frum and surrender. We, the American people, are ANYTHING BUT FEARFUL.
I reassert the validity of the adjective “fearful”. I noticed the bizarre urge by public speakers to apologize instantly if their diction is deemed un-PC by opposing political parties. Apologizing for an innocuous noun, a verb or an adjective is palpable characteristic of public discourse nowadays in the US.
I recommend to listen to the lively speeches of Nigel Farage, British UKIP EU parliamentarian on youtube. Only to learn courageous oratorical skill and demeanor.
Incidentally, if the Demoncrats are winning the culture wars, why are people becoming more pro-life?
This article proves nothing: it’s anecdotal evidence. It wouldn’t be hard to find similar “evidence” leaning the other way.
Furthermore, the people in this sample have proved not only are they never going to vote Republican, but also that they despise everyone who might. The invective directed towards Southerners, religious people, and (HORRORS!) people who work in the financial industry show that they aren’t willing to compromise and that they don’t see the people who believe different things from them as actual human beings. We’re just serfs to be despised and diminished.
I have no doubt that a large majority of these types of people would love to take away our First Amendment rights. They don’t want to be exposed to anybody who is pro-life, religious, conservative, or opposed to gun control. And the Republican party is supposed to cater to them to win? No. What about us? Who is going to stand up (or even respect) what we believe in?
Also, just because someone identifies as pro-choice doesn’t mean that they hate everyone who considers themselves pro-life even as much as the friends of Ms. Adams. Not everyone is that extreme or intolerant of other people’s beliefs. Just because one chooses to associate with bigots doesn’t mean that they speak for everyone.
And just for argument’s sake, it’s the Democratic party that is seeking to violate the First Amendment by forcing religious people to pay for the abortions and birth control of everyone else. You can’t claim that you want the government out of your sex life and then force people who don’t approve of your choices to pay for them. Perhaps religious people also have the right to be free to not support what non-religious people do as well.
It would appear your friends are mainly metrosexuals who read the New York Times and Washington Post religiously.
In someways it is amazing that the GOP does as well as it does. It starts at your early stages as being lectured by union controlled government teachers, and than after 12 years you are off to higher education with the desire to seek out marxist professors (Obama’s words) so they can teach you what to think. Only a few survive the indoctrination, and think independently.
The left-wing propaganda is everywhere. HBO has become the primary propaganda arm of the left Time Warner Corp.. It is hard to decide which is the most left of center media company because there are so many. Hell, even once family friendly Disney has become left wing. If Walt Disney were still around he would probably fire 90% of the ABC employment with Joy and Whoppee first on the chopping block. Frankly,I believe NBC Universal is the most left-wing media company, but I could be wrong. Does anyone remember that NBC gave Michael Moore a summer show in 1994? Yes, NBC has been leaning left for a long time, but it just took us a long time to catch on.
If Romney wins it will be due to the change of attitude of working class whites. This is where Obama is hurting mostly in polling. This group was willing to give him a chance in 2008,and they have been severely dissappointed in his performance. This is a large voting bloc and may put Romney over the top in states like Ohio, Wisconsin, Florida, and even Pennsylvania.
One thing I have learned from the Obama era is the fact that Hollywood welds to much power in this country. If more people would pay attention,they would find out how unlikeable the Hollywood crowd is. Sadly, few pay attention.
These four democrats are obviously closed minded as they focus on only a few mostly loosely defined issues and have little regard for competence, economics, freedom/liberty, the constitution, truthfulness from their politicians, limited government, and serious nitty-gritty discussions of the various ways to solve a problem or even define an issue. They represent what I have previously realized about liberals, that they are normally uninformed, and make decisions based upon feelings and false assumptions. Assumptions such as Republicans are going to destroy the environment, or they hate the poor, or they want to get into my mind and tell me what to think, etc, etc…. a sad bunch and there is no reasoning with them. They have their false biases and they are uncomfortable reconsidering their assumptions.
Let’s drop the other shoe. If I asked my Republican friends if anything could switch their votes from Romney to Obama, I’d probably get laughed at. Certainly there are other issues than the economy, and those like Ms. Adam’s friends who are gainfully employed and thus insulated from the fallout can afford to be ignorant of what ails it. (Meanwhile they claim their ‘party’ is the compassionate one, group morality is always easier than individual morality.)
Some people remain democrats throughout their lives no matter what evidence is presented to illustrate the failure of democrat policies. We define that as bigoted. It is impossible to reason with a closed mind convinced of its own superiority. However, a July 1 CNN/Opinion Research poll showed Mr. Romney winning independents by seven points, 49% to 42%. Republican rolls grew in 2010. We cannot win the bigots, but we’ll have enough to take the WH, the Congress, and the Senate.
And anybody who protests Romney by writing in another name is voting for Obama by proxy. Period. It doesn’t make any point other than you’re very shortsighted.