Rioting in Downtown Oakland as Occupiers Clash with Police
Chaos reigns on the streets of Oakland tonight as rioting has broken out when Occupy protesters tried to reclaim their camp from the police.
The action is still happening as I write this, so expect this post to be updated and changed as the night wears on.
Injured protester being carried away from the scene of the clashes. [Photo found on Tumblr.]
What we know so far: After the Occupy Oakland encampment was torn down early Tuesday morning by police, the ousted protesters reconvened outside the Oakland Library on Tuesday afternoon and voted to attempt a re-occupation of the same plaza from which they had just been evicted. Summoned by waves of emergency tweets and emails, fresh recruits joined the evicted Occupiers and early this evening once again marched on downtown Oakland, intending to reclaim Frank Ogawa Plaza.
But the Oakland Police were of course monitoring all this, and along with many other local police departments they were waiting for the protesters’ invasion. After an hours-long standoff at 14th and Broadway, interrupted by several confrontations and arrests, everything started to turn violent some time after 9:30pm.
I’ll post videos and any updates here as they become available. Please feel free to post any links in the comments section.
As videos crop up on YouTube in real time, I’ll try to embed them here:
VIDEOS OF THE OCCUPY OAKLAND RIOTING, Tuesday, October 25
Protesters scream and scatter as police fire tear gas:
Chaos as police fire flash-bang grenades and tear gas at unruly Occupiers at 14th & Broadway:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9e3sXxFG2M
“Police Use Tear Gas, Rubber Bullets, Flash Bangs on Occupy Oakland Protesters”:
“What the fuck?! What the fuck?!”:
More photos found on Tumblr:
Police warn protesters to disperse from “unlawful assembly,” give four-minute warning before use of tear gas:
(Needless to say, the protesters ignored and mocked the warning.)
Tense moments at the barricades:
Masked protesters chant “Whose streets? Our streets!” at police:
“We got tear-gassed again!”:
And now for some comic relief — a statement released just moments ago from an outraged Occupy sympathizer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieeNvciXULM
“This is a video message to the Oakland Police Department. You have committed violations of state and federal law. If you continue with your activity, I will personally come to Oakland and arrest every single officer involved. You have committed not only civil rights violations but also criminal acts against the people of the United States. Further continuance of said acts will be a declaration of war. You have 24 hours to respond.”
Protesters fleeing from tear gas canisters:
Guy hit with bean-bag round: “It’s fascism, man. They’re just fuckin’ dogs.”
From earlier in the day, shortly before nightfall:
This video shows the reason why Oakland Police called for backup from surrounding jurisdictions: A mob of several hundred protesters surrounded a handful of Oakland cops and pelted them with paint bombs, bottles and other projectiles, which you can see clearly starting at :33 in the video:
And here’s a rioter’s-eye view on street level of cops pelted with blue paint bombs, along with menacing group taunts from the protesters:
Imagine being a cop caught in this situation, surrounded on all sides by extremely hostile protesters looking to instigate conflict:
The Occupiers are making a huge deal out of this single moment during the chaos, when one of the protesters lay on the ground in front of the police barricades, and when several more protesters rushed over to him and the barricades, the police scattered them again with more tear gas:
Judge for yourself if this is a “crime against humanity” as is being claimed.
More links:
Verum Serum has a good roundup of videos showing Oakland clashes earlier in the afternoon, before the night-time chaos erupted.
The New York Times now has now blogged about the Oakland riot as well, and has some videos of their own:
At around 9:30 p.m., there was a tense face-off between protesters and police officers on Broadway at 14th Street. About 100 officers, some appearing to be county sheriffs, stood behind a metal barricade in full riot gear and wearing gas masks, while on the other side people pressed against the barricade, waving peace signs and chanting slogans. A few protesters hurled objects — what looked like water bottles — at the police, while over a loud speaker, officers instructed people to disperse or risk “chemical agents.”
Shortly after 9:30 p.m. the announcements stopped. Moments after, the police began sending canisters of tear gas into the crowd. Many people ran, but a few protesters wearing gas masks stayed and continued to throw things at the police.
This same strategy, of instigators throwing projectiles to goad police into a forceful response, as a way to spark a riot, has been standard practice among radicals for decades.
Overhead footage of the rioting, from KTVU.
On Wednesday morning, SFGate published a round-up article summarizing the night’s events.
No surprise that it happened in Oakland first. I’m willing to bet that there will be a fatality by the end of the week. I don’t want to see anyone die, but it seems inevitable at this point.
Every nefarious organization you can imagine has recruited every type of lowlife to participate in this thing. It is no surprise that they act like lowlifes 24×7.
They should never have been allowed to bring materials to the park to set up camp in the first place. Tea Partiers aren’t even allowed to bring flags on poles to some events – even though they have permits. Go figure.
Does the #Occupy Movement Speak for You?
So a US Marine Corp veteran who served two tours in Iraq is a low-life? No sir. You are a low-life. This was a police riot. The guy was standing tall, exercising his first amendment rights and they shot him in the head. You, sir are the garbage here.
A few scumbags killed wouldn’t be a bad thing, as long as decent people aren’t harmed. Break some heads. Break some heads.
Yeah, and if that happens, they’ll wave the dead bodies around as martyrs for the cause, just like the Muslims do.
This has already gone too far… there’s no going back now. Unfortunately, it won’t be innocent bystanders killed. It’ll be cops or the useful idiots who thought they were just there for a lark or to protest all the unfairness in the world…
Or get laid and a free lunch.
i agree, only to neutrazie this ows nonsense is for civillians to get involved and drive them away. sounds bad yes, but when cops do it all it will do is reenforce these ows idiots victocrat mentality. when you have double the people in civillians combating them and saying get out, then they will realize that they are NOT 99% of anything, NOT right, Not strong, cant do what they please and NOT WELCOME!
That would be nice but ordinary citizens do not have the authority or the protection of law. Besides, where are you gonna get enough people to simultaneously rise up, take the risk of injury or death, and use enough restrained force to do shut these maggots down. It would be exactly what the organizers are looking for, CHAOS. Civil war and a greater decline of our civilization.
Kudos to the LEO’ for standing there and doing what needs to be done. If some protestors get a bit roughed up or accidentally shot in the face by a teargas canister fired into a crowd, it is thier own fault for being in the vicinity.
You are calling for people to be KILLED. You are a disgusting person. You should be ashamed of yourself. Never procreate.
And you are an Effeminate Communist Bastard. Have a nice day!
Should be interesting. I know from experience that Oakland cops are about as bad ass as it gets. Oakland also is home to some of the most radical groups in America. And I don’t mean just OWS groupies. Groups from Van Jones’ Ella Baker Center, the Hells Angeles and the Black Muslims all consider Oakland their spiritual home. Any confrontation in Oakland is sure to get very violent very quickly.
Im suprised the OPD did not start shoting when they were cut off and out numbered. rubber bullets and bean bag shot are nothing to what they cud be doing.
I have to agree, Helen. This will continue until the radicals get what they want: the death of some dumb kid who’s in the wrong place at the wrong time, who will then be their Innocent Victim and Martyr.
it is a police state, now…yes, some cop in full fledged military gear will probably kill someone…perhaps a grandmother or an uncle or an Iraqi war veteran…someone’s brother or sister or aunt…totally unnecessary! the stoopid runs deep
#WeCantWait for the tear gas so lets go throw some bottles at the police!
Tear-Baggers are Suicide O-bombers
and i hope you get to see your virgins soon–very soon–typical thug
troll
I wonder what PJ law enforcement Blogger “Jack Dunphy” would make of the OPD tactics.
The seven officer team seemed to have a somewhat secure, defensible position, then one or two officers broke formation – lured out by the clever protesters – and exposed their entire team to extreme danger.
I’m sure the civilians also appreciated the officers involving their stranded cars in the melee.
Alas, the fascist jet-boots are out of patience. What’ll the head-jet-boot do? Will they give Community-Organizer-in-Chief a Sister Souljah Moment for year 2012? Stay tuned, as the Occupiers turn.
WTF is a “jet boot?”
Perhaps elkh1 means this:
http://www.motorcycletoystore.com/sport/shop.php/boots/gaerne-jet-boot/p_1068.html
The boot’s patent leather accents really set them off.
I think they’re the things that ‘Iron Man’ wears, but I’m not quite seeing how that applies here.
probably meant jack boot …..but he didn’t stay awake for that history class
Where is The Manolo when we need him? He could tell us about the jet boots.
Zombie, check it out:
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/26/police-said-to-fire-tear-gas-at-protesters-in-oakland-calif/
The NY Times totally ripped off your coverage and didn’t give you credit!
Grrrrr!
Which is why I go to PJMedia & Zombie these days and ignore the NYTimes.
Why does the phrase “Wiemar Republic” spring to mind?
They probably figure they’re safe from a zombie’s wrath, since they don’t have any brains on which to feast.
ROFL!
Send ‘em a bill, and issue a press release. NYT v. Sullivan allows them to print opinion, but not to infringe a copyright.
Now, lessee… Most of the really big fleabagger gatherings are taking place in large, politically liberal urban areas. Tolerated until now, they have become a bit of a nuisance to the 99% of people whom they claim to represent, and the authorities are beginning to act on the laws which they are ostensibly required to uphold.
What happens when you tell a spoiled child “No”?
Watch Oakland, and DC, and any other municipality in which this takes place, and you’ll see. Next up: Lawsuits against the “oppressors,” =^[.]^=
OK, folks, even zombies have to sleep. Don’t expect any more updates until tomorrow morning. I think 12 videos is already more than enough to quench your berserker bloodlust for one night!
If you come across any outstanding or interesting videos showing tonight’s Oakland action, please post them here, and I’ll check them out later.
Stay safe, Zombie.
Thank you for your diligent reporting, Zombie! Sleep tight, and sweet dreams!
(Less helicopter noise this morning, so you have a decent chance …)
Okay…but who will cover the 4 o’c deadline the Occupiers HAVE SET for today with the police???
‘waitin for the Oakland gangs to show up now…
Prediction: Other OWS groups will get jealous that the Oakland crew got to have “all the fun,” so copycat riots and confrontations will break out across the nation in the upcoming week.
Will Oakland be the Crispus Attucks that starts the next revolution? Or will it go down as just another pantywaist tantrum quickly forgotten in the whirlwind of news as the socialists of the EU and the Obama administration send the planet into an economic collapse?
sick..sick thinking…did someone teach you hatred and bigotry and ignorance?
Why yes….fascist filth like you.
If you think your Nazi friends in OWS are having a hard time with the cops, just wait until the cops go home and American citizens with loaded guns decide to remove you from the gene pool. So bring it on, ‘revolutionary’, and see what happens next.
Let it be noted that Zombie had the first and the best coverage of this important moment. By tomorrow morning this will be ALL over the Net, and it will eventually be in the history books, but Zombie posted on the riots WHILE THEY WERE STILL HAPPENING. That fact will be forgotten as everyone else toots their horns. And the selection of unedited video footage here in this post is amazing…I’m sure no one will match it.
But a good way to help launch the new “PJMedia” brand. Real news in real time! The first notch on your belt.
Have submitted to the NYT that they are stealing PJM material. Particularly Zombie material.
I pointed out to them that they don’t like their own material being used in venues which they disapprove of.
Since that is true, then they should refrain from ripping off other folks work, publishing it without any attribution at all, much less permission. Unless they really are with the anarchists, and that they should ponder that last point carefully.
I doubt you guys will hear much from them, but I’d think they owe at least the curtesy of attribution. Money would be nice, too, since the way they have re-used the material, isn’t anything like “fair use” in an editorial or commentary sense. It’s much more along the lines of hijacking a live feed…
I didn’t see what exactly they “stole” from PJM in this case. The NY Times by luck had a stringer in the crowd when the violence broke out, so he had his own account to tell, presumably.
Not saying they didn’t nab things from PJM or this post, I just don’t have time to check, and now I’m 2/3s asleep!
Doesn’t matter in the long run. What matters is that the Occupy movement may have just jumped the shark, and no one will care in the final analysis who got the scoop.
They may not have jumped the shark. They’ve prompted a clash with the police, and depending on how the narrative gets spun, they could easily come out looking like they were the good guys in all this. If they are able to draw parallels between themselves, and things like the Tunisia uprisings, they will have won.
All they need ot do for that to happen is keep repeating “Its just like the Tunisia riots,” and have the newsies keep repeating it for them.
I won’t buy they’re anything like the Tunisia riots until one of the OWS loons sets himself on fire.
Or, preferably, they all do.
C’mon, OWS, repeat after me: THE PEOPLE UNITED CANNOT HELP BUT BE IGNITED!
If they can get the media to continue to support them, and if the media can keep the attention of the masses, then, yes, they will come out well.
Voyager,
“…depending on how the narrative gets spun, they could easily come out looking like they were the good guys in all this..”
Ya think?
With the false “tea party = racist” theme as bedrock with the MSM, and the overt communist underpinnings of this “occupy” nonsense completely unreported thus far, and the “officially stated” need for a “kent state moment”, you think this will go any OTHER way with the press?
I’m done with it. Revolution, meet COUNTER revolution
Let the bullets fly
We seem to have a consensus here! UP-TWINKLES for brave law enforcement officers who waded into a dangerous mob and did what they had to do to disperse them!
Any blocks?
I love the smell of tear gas in the morning.
Smells like victory.
…. I love the sound of batons on dreadlocks early in the morning
Is this what we have coming up into adulthood from our youth? They have been brought up in a liberal educational situation and we are now reaping the ” rewards”! Just listen to the remarks that they make; right from the communist manifesto! The media tried their best to make the Tea Party look like a bunch of fools, but look at these cretins!
Lots of folks there from the left side of the bell curve…
“We seem to have a consensus here! UP-TWINKLES for brave law enforcement officers who waded into a dangerous mob and did what they had to do to disperse them!
Any blocks?”
Thanks for that! The motion passes…
Buncha kids who never got spanked. Too late now.
Hilarious! Maybe the police should try spanking them
I completely agree with you.
There won’t be riots in DC. The DC protestors are local paid employees of liberal organizations, and they won’t get out of control for the simple reason that they will lose their jobs if they get off message. Don’t believe me, go check out Freedom Plaza at 5:30 on a weekday, after all the “protestors” have gone home for the night.
This is every radical’s wet dream – going head to head with The Man and getting some juicy news coverage! I wonder how they’ll spin it. “We were just peacefully exercising our First Amendment rights when for no reason at all the jack-booted fascist thugs showed their true colors by violently attacking our peaceful gathering of peaceful concerned citizens.”
It’s all in the radical playbook. I wonder if the “authorities” are smart enough to avoid getting played.
You got that right Bug.
“We were just peacefully exercising our First Amendment rights when for no reason at all the jack-booted fascist thugs showed their true colors by violently attacking our peaceful gathering of peaceful concerned citizens.”
You’ve just quoted most of the comments from the NY Times Blog about the oakland riots.
All brought to by the Obama takeover of the Democratic party – there will be no peace and prosperity in this country until we remove this administration from office and send them all back to the Chicago gangsters who put him in the White House.
You know, that’s what I’m not so sure about. Where will they go indeed? What will they do?
Republicans will have to kick some serious economic butt, and fast, if they get into power.
ACORN linked to NYC OWS:
The former New York office for ACORN, the disbanded community activist group, is playing a key role in the self-proclaimed “leaderless” Occupy Wall Street movement, organizing “guerrilla” protest events and hiring door-to-door canvassers to collect money under the banner of various causes while spending it on protest-related activities…
The former director of New York ACORN, Jon Kest, and his top aides are now busy working at protest events for New York Communities for Change (NYCC). That organization was created in late 2009 when some ACORN offices disbanded and reorganized under new names after undercover video exposes prompted Congress to cut off federal funds.
Sources said NYCC has hired about 100 former ACORN-affiliated staff members from other cities – paying some of them $100 a day – to attend and support Occupy Wall Street. Dozens of New York homeless people recruited from shelters are also being paid to support the protests, at the rate of $10 an hour, the sources said.
At least some of those hired are being used as door-to-door canvassers to collect money that’s used to support the protests.
Sources said cash donations collected by NYCC on behalf of some unions and various causes are being pooled and spent on Occupy Wall Street. The money is used to buy supplies, pay staff and cover travel expenses for the ex-ACORN members brought to New York for the protests.
In one such case, sources said, NYCC staff members collected cash donations for what they were told was a United Federation of Teachers fundraising drive, but the money was diverted to the protests.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/26/exclusive-acorn-playing-behind-scenes-role-in-occupy-movement/
Wakey wakey sheeple, this is nothing more than progressive/socialist/democrat party operatives doing “their” thing…
I blame the KC CHIEFS for beating the Oakland raiders, 28 – 0 this weekend. This gave the crazed hipsters a huge inferiority complex, which they promptly proved correct as they got their ass handed to ‘em by the local constables.
The bottom 99% who have no homes, no food,no jobs and no health care are finally demanding the greedy 1% in their resplendent mansions and limos share their ill-gotten loot. Those who have nothing to eat but scraps and nothing to wear but rags might even welcomeviolent beatings to distract them from the gnawing pains of hunger and exposure.
If the police finally realize their job is to protect the financial resources of the greedy billionaires and abuse those who aspire to a better life there might be some changes made. Cops are not rich, and they could be much richer if they seized the wealth of the Wall Street barons rather than protect it. I hope some of the activists impressed some member of law enforcement with the truth.
Yep you are another loser P.O.S. You want others to pay their ‘fair’ share so you can get your free share.
I see that someone from Obama’s Office of TheDirector of Progressive Media and Online Response has joined the conversation.
Nah …. the speling and grammer is to good four it to have come from their
TY please don’t spray your throb all over your keyboard, you might hurt your self. The highest credentialed lumpen prolitariate in the history of the industrial age, a sans coulottes with iPods; give me a break.
“The bottom 99% who have no homes, no food,no jobs and no health care…..who have nothing to eat but scraps and nothing to wear but rags…”.
BWAHAHAHAHA!!! In the People’s Republic of California, controlled by Democrat Liberals? Say it ain’t so, throb-boy!!
To be fair, workers in California in unionized public sector jobs are given a fair wage and decent benefits, but that isn’t the whole state. What needs to be done in California and around the coutry is seize the wealth from the top 1% and use that money to provide similar incomes and benefits for all!
Right on, Throb.
Eat the rich today. Eat what tomorrow?
Hardly sustainable.
Let’s chow down on Michael Moore.
Despite his denials and cries of “Solidarity Bro’” he is surely well into the 1%.
He should last a while.
Although I won’t be joining you for dinner …. the cholesterol is a problem and I couldn’t afford to slurp up that much blubber.
These protests are being coordinated via Twitter and Facebook.
That means that all these poverty-stricken people in rags that you’re crying crocodile tears over, have ISP accounts, computers, smartphones, etc.
Here’s my proposal: Give each one a new suit of clothes in exchange for losing his Internet privileges.
Including you.
It would be worth it to buy you a new suit in exchange for muzzling you.
Making the 1% pay? Then why the rioting in Oakland?
East Bay is hardly the home of the 1%. Shouldn’t you be rioting in Palo Alto or the city?
Notice also that, while Oakland is predominately black, the OWS protesters are overwhelmingly white.
Oh, I get it. None of the people behind OWS want to upset Obama donors.
Why don’t these kiddies try taking their lily-white asses out of the gentrified downtown area? Probably because they would get their asses kicked in East Oakland.
Brilliant parody!
Has the Rupert Murdoch propaganda machine so engulfed the USA that disagreement with the corporate agenda can only be perceived as parody? Not all people are Wall Street CEO’s. Most people are their victims.
Yes, the reasons that the Occupy Movement began were to justly protest the wanton rape, pillage and plunder of the banksters and their bought-and-paid-for co-conspirators the politeers.
But that does NOT give anarcho-socialists license to unwind the AMERICAN experiment and place a communist empire in the place of the Republic of the United States!
Redistribution of wealth, whether instituted by fascists, socialists, democrats and/or republicans is wrong.
OWS-NY is a couple of blocks from where I work (no, not in financial mafia) and I was for a short time attended to gauge the true intentions of the participants…
What I discovered mirrors that of other unbiased observers, i.e. the vast majority aspire to establish anti-capitalist socialist reforms in the American political system, and believe it or not reelect Obama.
Moreover, the “leaders” of the kamp are dyed-in-the-wool SOCIALIST agitators, every one is Marxist brain-washed and a Hegelian dialectic practitioner – EVERY ONE OF THEM!
For AMERICANS, there is a solution to restart OUR government, which excludes Marxist propaganda:
“The state of nature has a law of nature to govern it, which obliges every one: and reason, which is that law, teaches all mankind, who will but consult it, that being all equal and independent, no one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty, or possessions” ~ John Locke 1690
So you’re saying that all 297 million of us (approx 99% of the U.S. population) “have no homes, no food,no jobs and no health care”? I think that your math is a bit off there!
Does this list truly represent 99% of the US population? If 1% includes millionaires and billionaires, wouldn’t the 99% have to include all of those mid-level executives, professionals and small business owners, etc.? Yes. But for purposes of this Marxist Revolution, if you have money in the bank or own property — be it a hot dog stand or beauty salon — then you are part of the bourgeoisie. The 99% have lumped bourgeois property owners (who really make up the vast majority of the middle) together with the 1% of millionaires and billionaires. To any rational mind this doesn’t make sense, but it doesn’t matter. The property, hard work and success of Main Street and the American Dream have been targeted by the so-called 99%. http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/10/the_revolutionaries_revenge.html
This was the standard lecture used in the part of the Europe occupied after the WW2 by Stalin. People didn’t buy that crap even though, especially at the end of WW2, there really was poverty and famine. But they had to ‘accept’ it because of the NKVD komisars behind their backs with Nagants in their hands, not to mention the T34′s conveniently located at each crossroad. It’s unbelievable that the same wooden language rubbish is still sputtered 60-70 years later and there are idiots who willingly embrace that. In USA. In California, no less. Supposedly educated people. (who can’t re-pay their student loans because of the greedy evil capitalisto-imperialists who suck working-class blood.)
As originally pitched, Marxism was supposed to be an economic success; it was supposed to make a country more prosperous and powerful than the “senseless competition and exploitation” of capitalism. The launch of Sputnik was touted by the U.S.S.R. as evidence of this.
The failure of Marxism to deliver prosperity has left these modern Marxists with only a moral argument. They don’t like the idea that some folks are much richer than they are.
They don’t like it.
I don’t mind it.
You can’t resolve an issue based on one’s emotional reactions.
I have to assume you’re joking. Please tell us you’re joking.
Is this a joke? 99% of Americans are jobless, homeless, starving? This is ridiculous.
You really must start reading a higher quality of comic book.
Ah, yes. “Expropriate the Expropriators!”, the eternal cry of the terminally lazy intellectual.
The “wealth” would last about five minutes. Then, a long, sullen silence, followed by the happy realization that the poor are even poorer now, and there are more poor.
Once upon a time, in a country far, far away, this fairy tale did indeed come to pass. They had to build a giant wall to keep the people from voting the only way they could – beating feet to get out!
Diana,
Those who forget(do not know) the history, deserve no future.
A photo collage, with the proper UP TWINKLES! awarded to Bay area police.
http://twitpic.com/760myw
Welcome to Obamaville.
Excellent coverage Zombie. I am quite surprised you have gone on doing this for so long and not been exposed. Your work is very good. I am guessing the reason why you have not been “outed” is the people you are capturing either are totally stoned out of their minds, they are so off the meds, or they are just clueless.
Regardless, this shows that these people are truly dangerous to this society.
Keep up the work!
This is great reading in the AM with coffee.
I’m willing to bet that Zombie doesn’t look anything like anyone would think he does.
How soon before some apologist comes forward and says they were just a small percentage of the OWS movement. It seems to me that if you keep adding up these small percentages you soon have the fact that 100% of the movement are rioters, thieves, rapists, layabouts, communists, socialists and just plain democratic party operatives. Quite a collection of scum.
So a US Marine veteran who served two tours in Iraq is scum? And that, perhaps, is why the cops shot him inthe head?
No sir. Look in the mirror, you pathetic human being. Reread your idiotic comment. Look in the mirror again. Who is the scum? Deep down inside I think you know. Sleep well.
I’m a paramedic from the Twin Cities who trained and deployed with “riot police” during the 2008 Republican National Convention. After watching these videos, I don’t believe we are seeing “tear gas” being used. Given the reactions (or non-reactions) of the crowd, I believe that smoke canisters are being used. CS gas is nasty stuff. One would expect to see more than just mild coughing from those exposed. In addition the police were using “flash bangs” in conjuction with the “smoke.” I also read where the police were using “rubber bullets.” I doubt very much that this is true. I suspect that what was used are called “marking rounds,” which is a less-lethal ordinance. If in the next 24-48 hours, if we see pictures of rioters showing off palm-sized hematomas on their abdomens as proof of rubber bullets being used, assume the injury was caused by marking rounds.
I now see where the Oakland police chief states that tear gas was used in some instances. I’ll stand by my comments, however. The videos I’ve seen are showing smoke cannisters. CS gas is white and burns for less than 30 seconds. It is possible that the CS was deployed from hand held spray cannisters.
Comments such as yours are very helpful. Thanks for posting.
You mean that it is NOT surplus WWI mustard gas?
Damn!!!
Wow, the hypocrisy of these OWS folks is unbelievable.
The real 99% is looking on in horror as our President embraces this group that is aligned with the American Nazi Party, aligned with the Communist Party USA, aligned with MoveOn.org, aligned with the SEIU, shouting ‘Destroy Capitalism’, advocating following ordinary corporate employees home and firebombing their houses, carry signs that say ‘Kill the RIch’, and singing ‘F**k the USA’.
The real 99% who are clinging to our bibles and guns are hoping this mob does not come down our own streets but if they do we are ready.
Amen. That’s it exactly. Most of us have homes, good food to eat, decent jobs that pay the bills… and we’re darned grateful for that! Even if we’re not the top 1%, we’re glad for what we have.
This trash should be required to visit some foreign land where real poverty dwells; they’d soon see how good they have it.
But all they can do is whine and complain that someone, somewhere has something more than they have; and it isn’t fair!
Oh, the socialist narrative takes care of that objection. You are suffering from false consciousness. The System has you brainwashed into believing that you are NOT a member of a political class, that your are responsible for your own condition, and that you are reasonably content with things as they are. It’s just what THEY want you to think.
Haven’t heard that one lately, but I’m sure it’ll appear in the NYT soon.
For a good analysis of how these people think (or don’t) see Robin of Berkley’s post at http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/10/anatomy_of_an_occupation.html. “Spoiled brats” is about right.
Many moons ago I contributed to a thread on the vulnerability of California to the narco terror cancer that sits on its’ southern border. Tragically, these kind of comments are easy to conjure and stir the imagination. In that thread I presented a scenario were the good citizens of California would seek out the protection of the narco terror billionaires to possibly protect them from the breakdown of society. Why? Cause money changes everything! But money may not protect the good citizens from Governor Jerry Brown who ironically is the former mayor of Oakland. Now, if only a kick ass Jesuit Inquisitional spirit takes over the heart and mind of Governor Brown (he pondered priestly vows as a young man) maybe he will lead the charge in bringing sanity to his previous municipal charge and home base. If not, here are my two scenarios. The OWS will smell not the napalm but the Acapulco Gold that sits around them and take advantage of a state in turmoil and the violent and criminal elements will separate the accumulated drug riches these millionaires and billionaires (Obama, these are the other ones, who the IRS can’t tax or whom you don’t acknowledge. And these millionaires and billionaires have been hoarding their dope wealth in the above ground and underground economy that California has nurtured in reluctant and not so reluctant ways. Ironically, again (California spells and is pregnant with the word ironic) the Attorney General of Cali announced 2 or 3 weeks ago a crack down on medicinal maryjane, and now this. With the 2011 version of Jerry Brown not the 70′s or 80′s version. Amazingly that maybe his age. I have no idea how he will respond to this nascent crisis, I cannot imagine him being naive as to how hard core the left and street people are in Northern Cali. He’s lived it all his life. If the violent and criminal element go for the gold the Cali National Guard and possibly boots on the ground will be required. Scenario 2, is simply the Governor does too little too late and the citizens turn too the dark side. Those with the guns and without a reluctance to use them, and that most probably they will be the narco millionaires and billionaires. Why, cause money changes everything. Even a phony peace or even a ceasefire.
I expect similar scenes when Occupy L.A. is finally cleared out.
Do you think we could hire The Pied Piper to lead them to lands end. Oh yeah, I forgot he is busy running for a second term!
“Summoned by waves of emergency tweets and emails…”
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As provided by that evil, greedy, capitalist infrastructure.
That’s the beauty of the 1% vs 99% argument. Once you confiscate from and kill the top 1%, there’s always a new 1% right behind them, well at least until you get to the last 100 people or so.
That’s a very good reminder. The communists call it “salami slicing.”
If this is Oakland, where are all the black guys?
I have a feeling they skeedaddled out of there quick…having more than enough experience with the Oakland PD!
Couldn’t we just give them SF and Oakland, Detroit and say…Martha’s Vineyard…and be done with it?
They can live on hippie reservations. Have their own economy where 1% do all the work and the other 99% protest themselves for a living. They can form a government that ignores its own Constitution, has no police protection, has no borders and must feed, house, educate, sanitize and budget for millions of invaders who pay nothing, contribute nothing, and get everything…for free.
We, of course…will give them absolutely not one penny…but we will donate the valuable land in all those aforementioned areas…and Nancy Pelosi can be their Queen…but, she must abdicate every position in the U.S.
They must subsist on alternative fuel only. We will not pump natural gas or oil to them. It will be forbidden.
Also, no fast food restaurant may open there, no sugar drinks, nothing but fruits, nuts, legumes and vegetables.
Put all the anti-capitalists in those areas. They can live by Sharia law or no law…within their own borders. They can abort all their children and eat them for dessert as far as I’m concerned, with hot fudge sauce as a topping.
They need a passport to visit the rest of the country and an ankle bracelet. The TSA will grope them on sight. They can marry each other, animals that wander into their domain, and trees, shrubs and stop signs if they want to.
All the cars must be electric, solar or wind generated. They must form unions and pay dues for any work that is performed or be punished by being forced to watch Phil Donahue reruns and the View for 1-3 years in confinement in latte shoppe.
All science in the hippie reservation is already settled. No competing ideas will be allowed.
They may trade with Communist countries, and they may import Havana cigars, but they won’t be allowed to smoke them or anything else except medical marijuana…the whole area is a smoke free zone.
Elections will not be held…dictators without borders will send in “handlers” for all directives.
As far as I’m concerned, we can make this gift any day before November 2012. After that, these Communists cicadas are going to have to crawl back under their rocks for another 17 years.
excellent and seconded
You’re describing Gaza. Once America stops giving free stuff to Hippianna, they’ll start screaming “occupation!!!!”.
Actually laughed out loud at this – please add Key West to the list. It’s closer to that paradise they yearn for: Cuba
Yes, just give them the Bay Area and Seattle and Boston and New York, and LA too. Ooops! Darn, all those universities and research institutions and internet companies and cutting edge technology companies and productive smart people… Gone. All that’s left is a bunch of ignorant yokels raving about left wing conspiracies.
Sounds like a blast.
I have absolutely no sympathy for these IGNORANT jackasses.
Proving, once again, that toddlers can NOT be reasoned with…. I feel so sorry for the police.
Is Schadenboner a word? Regardless, I have one.
… it is now!!
One wonders when these idiot kids will realize they’re being used as bodies to sacrifice for various organizations’ agendas? These communist groups and socialist groups WANT some of these protesters to die.
Once upon a time we rented a room in our house to a friend of a friend. She turned out to be a hardcore communist wannabe. She would talk about how the best thing ever would be for police to confront a riot of socialists and have one of the rioters die so people would “fall in line”. She also skipped out on rent. Funny, that.
My Facebook friends are in arms over this, reporting everything the socialist reporters are saying. I’ve seen “Sonic weapons”, “They teargassed babies”, “Theres four dead”, “This is nazi germany!”. When confronted they said “This is the same as the civil rights movement!”
The “Occupy” groups have lost all perspective and I fear its only gonna get worse.
Only a matter of time before Occupy became violent. This is what George Soros his hoping for. He is funding this group predicting the fall of the US and with his track record he will probably make millions off American’s suffering.
So, it seems are handful of hard-left socialist agitators have taken up confrontation with the police the SF bay area, and the police resorted to non-lethal crowd control tactics to suppress them…
Is anyone really surprised?
After all, isn’t this right out of the apparatchik handbook on fomenting insurrection?
The real problem, as I see it, is that fascist elements within the US political, banking and corporate systems have for a generation been actively looting the country, and now the planet with endless wars and corrupt business practices…
The hard-left socialists KNOW that this is now transparently true, and as the American sheeple themselves have done NOTHING to stop it (voting for the (D) & (R) Free Crap Empire™ = NOTHING), they have seized the opportunity to undermine the entire political process, and thus the American experiment itself!
Do not be deceived: These are truly dangerous times we are entering, and the future of the country hangs in the balance.
If you, like me, wish to see the country established by the Sons of Liberty in 1776 continue, then We the People need to STOP THE LOOTING, AND START PROSECUTING.
Obviously this will not happen as long as anti-American forces continue to be the vocal minority (witness implementation of most of the 10 planks of the communist manifesto into OUR system of government).
The USofA was established as a Natural Law Democratic Republic, and until ENEMIES foreign and domestic are stopped, we are in perilous times…
It matters not if We the People are facing fascist, socialist, or anarchists et al, if they are ENEMIES of Natural Law the US Constitution, they are no different than loyalists following the revolution – Enemies of the Republic – and are a cancer eating away at OUR moral and ethical unity.
America the choice is yours: Stand up to for the Rule of Law, as established by the Declaration of Independence, or perish!
What bozos. Well this is what they wanted all along. Attention and a cool experience so they can feel like real revolutionaries while accomplishing nothing.
Yeesh. In Israel this year the social protests grew to what would be the equivalent in US population of roughly 19 million people at one point and none of these pointless shenanigans. Do they really think this is going to attract the middle class?
The music was better back in the day anyway:
Everywhere is freaks and hairies
Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity
Tax the rich, feed the poor
Till there are no rich no more?
I’d love to change the world
But I don’t know what to do
So I’ll leave it up to you
Population keeps on breeding
Nation bleeding, still more feeding economy
Life is funny, skies are sunny
Bees make honey, who needs money, Monopoly
I’d love to change the world
But I don’t know what to do
So I’ll leave it up to you
World pollution, there’s no solution
Institution, electrocution
Just black and white, rich or poor
Them and us, stop the war
I’d love to change the world
But I don’t know what to do
So I’ll leave it up to you
(Alvin Lee)
“Everybody’s hustlin’ just to have a little scene.”
–Donovan
WAke up America, listen to this moron, endorsing the useful idiots. This dude is a star treker, he thinks this is a movie. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!
Bill Ayers is his idol! Moron ALERT!!!
MORON ALERT!!!
Occupy Oakland has published the mayor’s contact information, along with requests for people to “tell them what you think.”
I thought it only fair to give the same information, here.
http://www2.oaklandnet.com/Government/o/Mayor/a/ContactUs/index.htm
I just sent an e-mail to the mayor’s office thanking them for taking out the trash!!
From the mayor’s website:
“We will continue to make Oakland safer through community policing, neighborhood councils and crime prevention programs. Our leadership in emergency preparedness at both the policy and neighborhood level will help sustain Oakland should disaster occur.
A leader in progressive and smart growth policies, Oakland will create a sustainable city that promotes a green economy and healthy environment that benefits all.”
Ohhh…the irony! “Chickens coming home to roost” anyone?
My concern is that the administration and media which has been admiring OWS, while demonizing the Tea Party, will finally throw OWS under the bus and seize upon this violence as a pretext to curtail all dissent. Fast and Furious shows how devious they are.
“Associate yourself with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation for ’tis better to be alone than in bad company…Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism.” ~ George Washington
“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.” ~ Patrick Henry
Unfortunately, it appears the current administration is in lockstep with the anarcho-socialists, both vocally and by their actions in government.
One can only hope that the American electorate is paying attention, and removes the Apparatchik-in-chief from office in 2012…
If true, I say good. Middle America is slow to action, what with having lives and all, but not stupid. If only our method of elections didn’t always leave us the choice between Bad and Worse.
The problem is that Obama and Pelosi have such a psychological bond with these far leftists that they can’t think that cleverly. They reacted reflexively, by supporting the protesters.
Some Democrats had suggested that their party could use the OWS protests as a foil; present themselves to the voters as “responsible progressives” in contrast to the OWS loons in the streets.
But they didn’t expect Nancy Pelosi to say “God bless the OWS”–and jump right into bed with them.
enemies of the state, shoot them and let them lie where you found them, al capone
the nike revolts? vdh, what’s your view on this?
I didn’t think it was possible to get more ashamed of my generation, but kudos to #OWS, they managed it.
These are the kids my friends turned into in high school. The kids who sat in the back of the class wearing black jeans, wash-out hair dye, and Converses. They always seemed to speak in monotones (especially when addressed by a teacher), doodled hypermuscular or uber-busty versions of themselves in their notebooks, and defined their whole personalities by what would freak out the mundane adults and classmates they despised. In college they went for the areas of study that promised conflict, drama, standing up to The Man. Now they’re twenty-five, with no job prospects because the world doesn’t need yet another feminist theory dance major, and they get to feel genuinely aggrieved for the first time in years. No wonder they’re throwing themselves into it; it’s the ultimate thrill of a lifetime which has been spent getting a snicker out of shocking the boring normal people.
You’re going above and beyond the call of duty, Zombie. Thanks as ever for the incredible reports.
I think you’re spot on.
There is a further aspect to their “education” and subsequent (consequent?) lack of employability.
Some years ago we were told that many tertiary degrees (eg Commerce, Engineering, Law, even Medicine)
were too narrowly ‘vocation based’.
The brave new world would move so fast that specific skills taught in these degrees would be outmoded before graduation.
Humanities based (ie Cereal Packet) degrees, on the other hand, would turn out highly adaptable ‘deep and critical thinkers’ with extra added social media skills. (We should note that ‘deep and critical thinking’ is a euphemism for regurgitating the jaundiced left-wing views of their University lecturers who have never held a real job since their schoolboy paper-route).
This skill-set would ensure that they would quickly leap-frog all those dweebs who had been learning outmoded stuff like “what holds bridges/aeroplanes up”, “how to prevent disease”, “how the taxation system works”, “how to deliver power and clean water to 5 million people every day” or “how to find and dig up useful minerals”
So these tools graduated with a BSF (Bachelor of Sycophancy and Facebook) and an expectation that they would inherent the earth.
They are now disappointed.
What with the marvels of modern communication, OWS will keep the flame burning through the winter. Some will become snowbirds and protest in the sunny Southland. They will resume full activity in the spring. Will they march on Charlotte next summer? Yes, we note all the pseudo-Marxist rhetoric. However, they neglect a great quote by Vladimir Ilyich, which he borrowed from St Paul. “Who will not work, shall not eat.” What of the real 99%? They’re too busy at work, or looking for work, to have time for this nonsense. It’s a pity that OWS is so dense that the march isn’t on the Fed, the Capitol, the White House. A question: Why were the girls and women gotten out of this rat-bleep right off? Decent men don’t leave women and girls in harm’s way.
Top Obama Advisor Patrick Gaspard Behind the SEIU, ACORN, OWS Connection:
I have spent the past 5 or 6 days tracing the deep connections between the Obama White House and the Occupy Wall Street protests. People may ask, “How could secretly inciting an uprising help Barack Obama to win again in 2012?”
The next reason that the Obama White House would have to engage the Left in a vigorous tirade against banks and the “current situation” is to force public opinion on the upcoming $447 billion dollar Jobs Bill and the implementation of Obamacare. If you want to know HOW Obamacare was actually passed, and who helped to pass it, look to SEIU.
http://alternativenewsreport.net/2011/10/12/patrick-gaspard-seiu-acorn-ows/
The police should fake some injuries on the line (you know like soccer players) and give them more liason to go out into the crowd and arrest these bozos.
It’ll clear them up real quick when they see some repercussions.
We need “magic” weapons!!…like those that “passed” over the hittites when attacking Jerusalem..and 20,000 were anialited…
,,, OKAYOKAY..JUST SAYING…WE NEED TO TAKE STRONG ACTIONS WITH THESE “SO CALLED” AMERICANS.
Obama and his administration and handlers are at the bottom om all this unrest..Van Jones,Ayers, UNIONS…
What better way to have a little martial law thrown around..or no election etc…
Are they trying to desensitize us?
Looks like Los Angeles will be next to go…
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news%2Flocal%2Flos_angeles&id=8405818
We shall see what happens!
L.A. is different from Oakland, however. In Oakland, there is easy public transportation directly to the protest site, and the city is comparatively small geographically, so it’s easy to summon a large number of disaffected urban youths at a moment’s notice. In L.A., on the other hand, it’s so sprawling, and the neighborhoods are so far-flung, that one generally needs a car to get places, and that is a barrier to gathering a quick riot-ready mob. (Excepting of course when the Lakers win or lose a championship at the Staples Center.) If a riot broke out downtown at LA’s city hall, would the hipsters of Venice and the gangbangers of South Central and politicized La Raza types in East LA really all rush over there to join in? Doubtful. But one never knows!
LA also really isn’t as radicalized as the Bay Area, although if things erupt, you might find some chaos opportunists show up. Oh, and n.b., more of the hipsters are in Silverlake / Echo Park, which is next to DTLA.
I doubt people from across the city would show up on a moment’s notice for a riot, but with facebook and twitter, people can now organize and agree to meet on a certain day at a specific time. If they decide to clear out City Hall Park it will probably happen like in Oakland – in the middle of the night or early A.M…But I have no doubt that a counter protest would quickly be organized and that’s where it could turn ugly. Contrary to what many people think, there are a lot of radicals and anarchist-types in Los Angeles. They will come, and many of them have been itching for a confrontation.
I hope it doesn’t happen, but it could.
And LA City Hall is located a block from a Metro Subway station so access is easy from anywhere in Los Angeles.
Interesting comment from one of the Occupiers in the crowd posted here http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2011/10/25/18695124.php?show_comments=1#comments :
He basically admits that some of the protesters were trying to instigate a riot. They got what they wanted — a police reaction — but that didn’t spark the sympathy they imagined they’d get.
Niven’s First Law: Never throw $#!+ at an armed man.
Niven’s First Corrolary: Never stand next to someone who’s throwing $#!+ at an armed man.
What we are seeing here is the generation created by the extinction of discipline. These are people with no sence of responsibility, pride, respect or consequence. Their word means nothing and they have convinced themselves that all of their problems are someone elses fault. I have news for all of them… YOU ARE NOT THE 99%. In fact… you are not even the .000099%. You all are diminishing any credibility you may have had and ultimatly, your situation will worsen. Stand up, get a job. For goodness sake, become contributing, productive members of our society. Pay your debt, quit your crying. You idiots are protesting against everyone in this country that has investments via a I.R.A. or 401k or stocks. Your actions are counterproductive in that you are costing many of this countries citizens money. No one promised you jobs! No one promised you wealth! It’s a rough world out there. Man up and become a producer. No one has any respect for a crybaby leach!
A few weeks ago, there was a link from pjmedia to an article that pointed out: People used to depend on their children for support in old age (in addition to farm labor of course), but after Social Security came along, people stopped having children and began to depend on “other people’s children” for their financial well-being in old age and now we’re running out of “other people’s children”, just like we’re running out of “other people’s money”.
It occurs to me that people didn’t raise children like this, when they knew they’d be dependent on their own children during old age. But now, there’s no real reason to raise the few children they do have, into mature, productive adults.
I was hoping the bullhorn guy would show up at one of these. Anyone see him?
OWS: the reason belt-fed weapons were invented.
What we’re seeing is simply a dress rehearsal for what will happen if Obama is not reelected in Nov.
The entire purpose behind OWS is to gather like thinkers around and develop a cadre for the next step.
But, if the mob is allowed to ignore the laws and wishes of the vast majority (who wishes they would go away), why should the majority follow the desires of the mob.
I’m a semi-loser, but I can’t hold a candle to Hellacious Wrath Boy in the loserdom sweepstakes.
I feel significantly better about myself. Thanx.
The Constitution of the United States of America
Article I:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
THEREFORE:
It is unlawful for a municipality to require a permit to gather.
It is unlawful for a municipality to tell or force people to leave publicly owned property.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security
That first part’s an amendment, not an article–and the second part is from the Declaration of Independence not the Constitution.
Perhaps knowing your history would be better BEFORE you start complaining.
Tear gas is a breath of fresh air over the funk permeating these layabouts.
What if the goal here is merely the continued escalation of violence until the administration deems it necessary to proclaim Marshall Law and suspend elections?
A lot of people said that about the black on white “flash mob” crimes were a “test” to see how people reacted.
I wouldn’t doubt if this is a ‘trial run’ for something bigger (hope not). ugh.
“Marshall Law”? Judicial review is already in place… Are you disagreeing with Marbury vs Madison? I don’t get it.
Not even our homeless druggies on the streets are emaciated. Our poor are obese with cell-phones, televisions and EBT cards to keep their fat asses fat and obviously UNHAPPY (because being fat and poor sucks, YO).
Eat the rich? And? When they are gone? Eat what? Those weeds and trees you’ve been pissing and shitting all over, you dolts?
If you stinkin’, stoned morons think an ‘infrastructure’ of OCCUPIERS is idyllically made up of rapists, thugs, murderers, thieves and idiot Marxists/Commies/Socialists, then you all need to move to your favorite Marxist/Commie/Socialist country and leave America alone, you gutless wonders!
Kudos and great coverage as always, Zombie.♥
The unions have been working this type of subversive strike fomenting scam since the 1920s. It is well oiled and almost fool proof. Few, if any of the real agitators will ever be found doing violence. They always work through the violence prone that are always a dead end in any investigation. I know some of the psychological techniques that push the individual to committing violence.
We should take note that the unions do not wish to share any gain with a non union employee. If you are going to share in our spoils you will be one of us is their mantra. You are not invited to share in their “gain”.
Read about the uproar at Ephesus stirred up by Demetrius, the silversmith. Acts 19:24…
So, is it too late for a “teachable moment” over a couple of beers in a shady spot on the White House lawn near the Rose Garden?
Probably so.
In the state schools the kids normally have occuppied were highly controlled enviroments where they’ve been so insulated from the real world that many learn next to nothing. And it’s expensive.
The hard lessons have throughout history been learned in the ‘mean streets’ , or their equivalent. We’ve crippled these people with the ways that are now entrenched. Stretch your comfort zone. More time will pass before everyone will be willing to settle down.
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99% ? No! the 47% who pay no taxes but demand more and more from the 53% who work, pay taxes, receive very little in return. Enough is enough, contribute or crawl back under your rock and commune with the other worms and parasites.