Media speculation does 180-degree turn and now starts implying that the “right wing” is to blame for Norway attacks
That was fast.
Based on the hair color and ethnicity of the apparent Utoya Island shooter, mainstream media reports have abruptly swung in the opposite direction and are now openly spinning the notion that the perpetrator was a Norwegian right-wing extremist:
MSNBC: “could indicate the involvement of a far-right group”:
Speculation that the attacks were the work of Islamist militants shot around the world after the twin attacks…
But that assessment began changing as details merged later Friday after police said they had a suspect in custody, who they said was connected to both incidents.
Police confirmed Friday night that the suspected gunman was, in fact, a 32-year-old Norwegian man posing as a police officer; the BBC, citing police, said he was from Utoya.
Magnus Ranstorp, a specialist in militant Islamic movements and research director at the Center for Asymmetric Threat Studies at the Swedish National Defense College, said it was natural for people to initially conclude that the attacks were the product of a terrorist plot.
“Intuitively, the bombing is al-Qaida-related,” Ranstorp told the Norwegian Nettavisen news service. But the new information about the suspected gunman — especially his nationality — “points to an internal rather than external extremist,” he said.
“With this attack on Utoya, this could just be a crazy person,” Ranstorp said.
Exclusive Analysis, a risk consultancy in London, said reports “could indicate the involvement of a far-right group rather than an Islamist group.“
Christian Science Monitor: “Norway’s Extreme Right” responsible?:
“Many Norwegians remember what happened in Oklahoma,” says Neumann’s colleague, Stale Ulriksen, director of NUPI. “Everybody started talking about Islamic fundamentalism and then it turned out to be an American right-winger. Norway’s extreme right is small in numbers, but that’s the problem with this kind of attack – it doesn’t take many people to pull something like this off.”
This confirms what Bruce Bawer reported as the police spokesmen’s emotions when announcing the nationality of the Utoya shooter:
Then the police announced that they had arrested a 32-year-old suspect who, they emphasized with what seemed like relief or even joy, was a tall, blond ethnic Norwegian (one police spokesman even called him an “ethnic Norwegian Norwegian,” a turn of phrase that Norwegians would describe as “smør på flesk” – i.e., putting butter on bacon, or, as we’d say in English, gilding the lily). They insisted that the suspect (although they described him not as a suspect but as a “perpetrator”) had no connection to a terrorist group, though when asked about other connections he might have, they seemed to dodge the question.
One can only imagine the backroom politics going on at Norwegian police agencies right around now.
UPDATE:
Reuters: Man held after Norway attacks right-wing extremist:
The Norwegian man detained after twin attacks in Norway on Friday that killed at least 17 people has links to right-wing extremism, independent Norwegian television TV2 reported on Saturday, without disclosing its sources.
I see a “whitewash” in more than one sense of the word.
Ha! Good one!
No religion, no nation, and no political faction, has a monopoly on murderous nutjobs.
The sobering fact is, it would be feasible for just one demented person to carry out this attack, for an insane reason or for no reason.
That is why my appreciation goes to all news outlets that, in the absence of evidence, make no assumption regarding religious and/or political motivations of the attacker. My appreciation goes also to all religions and all political organizations that publicly and unequivocally condemn these attacks.
No doubt a tea party activist.
I guess this means he doesn’t get the Nobel peace prize after all.
Is there really that big a gulf between right-wing radicals and Islamists? Mark Steyn once expressed it well, that eventually white-supremacists will decide that it is the “supremacist” part that they care about.
My brother is a white supremacist. He talks at length about how Hitler was right. He loves al-Qiada, loved bin Laden, and thinks Ahmadinijad is “one sharp guy who knows the truth.”
Go back and research the oh, last twenty of these kinds of attacks and every single time the media does their goddamndest to blame the Right. And every single time it’s the Muslims.
OK, if I’m wrong, I’m wrong. But I read all over that it was blah blah Al Islam taking credit for the attacks. Now it’s being reported as Behring Breivik, a 30-something year old angry Nationalist dude. But don’t worry, the next one will be from the Religion of Perpetual Outrage who never likes to play second fiddle to this kind of stuff.
I think the perpetrator is a journalist angry because folks aren’t buying newspapers. Hey, the MSM can make stuff up, why not us?
Or else, it’s another effect of global warming.
He should be hanged slowly, regardless of his motive.
I marvel at the media’s ability to forget all of the violence committed by committed leftists. That took up almost the entire 20th century but they don’t seem to remember any of it. Just because this guy is apparently Scandanavian, they assume he’s some rightist (because they don’t understand that the difference is between freedom and collectivism). He could just as easily at this point be a communist looking to foment violent revolution.
Found a fascinating story that should be read and shared.
http://www.newsinenglish.no/2010/12/07/us-blasts-norways-anti-terror-efforts-justice-minister-rejects-criticism/
Somehing extremely fishy here. Look at how muslim-friendly American became, with all its mosques, after 9-11. Europe has been close to tipping, but the ethnic Europeans have been fighting back through groups like the EDL.
Now this? What could globalists have to gain by tipping Europe even more dramatically in the islamic direction (and delegitimizing the pro-European groups, such as Geert Twilders’s party) at the same time?
P.S. I was on a Norway Twitter site at the time and 10-12 Norwegians in a row exclaimed (exhuberantly?) HE’S NORWEGIAN! The idea that they would all be relieved and joyful that it was one of their countrymen (and not even mention ideology)was a pretty striking example of how close someare to dhimmitude. (Can’t imagine Americans — most — so happily twittering “He’s an AMERICAN!” after such a tragedy)
That said, my prayers go out tonight.
I remember being relieved that Timothy McVeigh was an American, because it meant he was very likely a lone nutcase. That meant the war from the Islamists had not yet reached us.
The globalists want one world government (as in governed by the UN)and it helps their cause if a totalitarian regime comes along to force adherence. Islamist countries are socialist and Sharia keeps people in line. The globalists see that this formula works to oppress free will and want to co-opt it for their purposes. It’s ridiculous how transparent they are – for God’s sake, Hillary Clinton has a Muslim Sisterhood member as her personal assistant in the state department!
Just left Yahoo. You should see the hate going on over there. I read several calls to round up conservatives/Tea Party members…and some of them said “exterminate” them. My eyes started to glaze over, and after responding to several realized the futility of even trying.
How do we continually get lumped in with the extreme right? How does believing in the Constitution, Rule of Law, and Freedom equate to being an “extremist”?
Theres going to be a left wing and media feeding frenzy over this.
exactly
how is a “neo-nazi” a right-winger?
nazism, facism, stalinism, et. al all require the growth and ultimate power of the “state”– this is the core of all “leftisms”
Nazi? You mean the National SOCIALIST German Workers’ Party? Naw, they’re right wing, unlike socialists, er, I mean, oh well.
“There was no difference between them (rival socialist factions)about the question of its being the will of the state which should assign to each person his proper place in society. But there were, as there always will be, most profound differences about what are the proper places of the different classes and groups.”
-f a hayek “the road to serfdom”
so is national socialism “right wing” within the spectrum of socialism?
i find it difficult to swallow the notion that national socialism is of the same fiber of laizzez-faire (that fiber being “right wing”)
Sir,
Left wing/right wing it really doesnt matter what this terrorist was/is. My entire point was that people like myself and other members of the Tea Party and republican Party are being lumped in with the extreme right. Its happening in blogs and in the MSM. Why are we allowing this to go on? I ask again…when exactly did believing in limited government, the Constitution, upholding natural rights, living within your means, and keeping the majority of what you earn become extreme???
Why is it that being pro second amendment automatically sentences you to the label “Extreme Right Winger” for example???
The Islamification of Europe could not have happened without the complicity of the governing class. So, it appears, to paraphrase Obama’s quondam spiritual advisor Jeremiah Wright, Norway’s chicken are coming home to roost.
Blaming the Tea Party is a lute-cris act by the far leftse.
Islamic fundamentalist to extreme right wing is more of a π/4 rad turn.
The fellow seems be a fan of Pam Geller: http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/38919_Breaking-_Oslo_Terrorist_Tied_to_Right_Wing_Extremism_-_Update-_A_Pamela_Geller_Fan
Whatever his politics ths guy is an obvious nutter who should be boiled in his own juices if convicted. The question is the punishment he will receive. Norway does not have the death penalty and is famous for the, shall we say, “indulgence” of their prison system . (Very compassionate you know.) They have never had to deal with a major terrorist incident of any political stripe and they enjoy lecturing the U.S. on the “barbarity” of the American justice system. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in their courts.
The UK Telegraph’s live time line notes at 12:47 that Breivik was a former member of the Progressive Party’s youth-wing–so a Lefty who became loony.
Maybe.
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/208715.php
I don’t think anybody should take that new internet profile too seriously just yet.
I always thought Nazis and Commies were totalitarians on the left side, and the opposite had to be ….. anarchists. That puts both Liberals and Conservatives to the middle, and both to the right of Libertarians.
The kind of people who can’t count, can’t construct a timeline and can’t engage in an simple exercise of putting intangible objects in order, should not be allowed to define any of our conversations, much less the political debate about the direction of our country.
“I always thought Nazis and Commies were totalitarians on the left side, and the opposite had to be ….. anarchists. That puts both Liberals and Conservatives to the middle, and both to the right of Libertarians.”
This is exactly sort of right, but Nazis and Commis were both on the right side (totalitarians). The Commies pretended to be left-wing and the Nazis stole the word Socialism to try to increase their electoral appeal.
This is the left-right spectrum:
LEFT | Anarchism-Socialism-Liberalism-Conservatism-Monarchism-Fascism | RIGHT
The Soviet Communists seized power in a counter-revolution against the Socialist government lead by Alexander Kerensky. They were fascists and they gave Lenin and later Stalin the same powers as the Tsar (Monarchist). The left-right spectrum was distorted by the Communists pretending to be left-wing, and fooling so many people because they offered to support movements for left-wing reform (democracy and liberty) in other countries (because it was in Russia’s interest to bring down their existing Liberal or Conservative governments and expand their power – imperialism).
You only have to look at the pre-Nazi politics of Germany. The Communists were backed by Russian imperialism and were working to undermine the Socialist and Liberal governments. The Socialists in Germany never worked with the Communists, even though they would have had a majority against everyone else if they had worked together – because the Communists were a fake party of the left. Meanwhile, the Nazis came to power with the support of the DNVP (who were Monarchists and hard-line Conservatives) and the DVP (an alliance of moderate Conservatives and Protestant Liberals) and at the very beginning even the Zentrum (Catholic Liberals).
Things are further distorted now because America has created Libertarianism, which purports to fuse Anarchism (no rulers) with Conservatism (strong constitutional rulers). But really, they just reject democracy (advocated by Liberalism and Socialism) – they know that, if democracy is weakened and removed, strong rulers will emerge (constitutionally or not) to dominate the weak.
Well, we know he’s a Christian and a right-winger because a week before the attacks he set up a Facebook page to tell us so.
Oops. Forgot to give that link.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/23/us-norway-idUSL6E7IN00C20110723
“The brutal truth of the matter is the following; a welfare state will work perfectly well intertwined with capitalistic doctrines as long as the country is monocultural /the social cohesion level is at an acceptable level. A welfare state would never work in the US dueto the lack of social cohesion, because they have large minority groups who are allowed parallel cultures, norms and ethics.”
This is from section #2.102 ‘Not a war between capitalism and socialism but a cultural war betweennationalism and internationalism’ of Brievek’s book which is available here: http://dougsaunders.net/2011/07/political-thinking-anders-behring-breivik/
The man clearly did/does not believe that socialism is the problem.
I hope this gets out and picked up and SOON.