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Tayyip Erdogan’s Cave of Wonders

February 28th, 2013 - 6:12 pm

Prince Metternich, the architect of the Holy Alliance against France, is supposed to have said after hearing news of the death of his arch-rival, the devious French diplomat Talleyrand, “I wonder what he meant by that?” Metternich (if he really said it) mean it as a joke. The State Department will ask what Turkey’s Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan meant by his outburst yesterday that Zionism is “a crime against humanity.”

Erdogan, after all, has “bonds of trust” with Barack Obama. Last year Obama told Fareed Zakaria of Time magazine that the “friendships and the bonds of trust” that he forged with Erdogan (whom he named among five foreign leaders) is “precisely, or is a big part of, what has allowed us to execute effective diplomacy.” What could the president’s friend have meant by that? Erdogan said exactly what he believes. The Turkish leader is a holdover from the enchanted world of rural Anatolia, in which Jewish conspiracies swirl in the night air along with jinn and witches. That is not an exaggeration, but an objective report, as I will explain below. No-one should be surprised. Lunatics have run better countries than Turkey in living memory.

I wrote in my 2011 book How Civilizations Die (and Why Islam is Dying, Too):

There is bizarre edge to Tayyip Erdogan. He is given to lurid, sometimes bloodthirsty outbursts. During a February 2008 visit to Germany, Turkey’s most important European trading partner, Erdogan scandalized his hosts when he told an audience of 20,000 Turks that assimilation into German culture was “a crime against humanity.” Germany, after all, knows a thing or two about crimes against humanity. German opinion was outraged, and Turkey’s chances for membership in the European Community—a pillar of Turkish diplomacy for a generation—fell to negligible. Erdogan ignored the uproar, and told the Turkish Parliament upon his return to Ankara, “I repeat… assimilation is a crime against humanity . . . . We can think differently from (Chancellor Angela) Merkel about this, but that is my opinion.” The German attitude towards its Turkish minority has swung from multicultural outreach to pessimism about their future in German society. In October 2010, German Chancellor Angela Merkel told a gathering of her political party that Germany’s attempt to create a multicultural society has “utterly failed.” As press reports paraphrased her remarks, “Allowing people of different cultural backgrounds to live side by side without integrating has not worked in a country that is home to some four million Muslims.”

We obtain some insight into Erdogan’s warped view of the world by considering the leading ideologue of Turkish Islamism, Fethullah Gulen. I profiled him in a September 2010 Asia Times essay. He presides over a business empire worth tens of billions of dollars and a system of Islamist schools that stretches from Central Asia to charter schools in the United States. The Gulen organization took control of Turkey by infiltrating its security services in a patient march through the institutions over the past two decades. Gulen’s pan-Turkic mysticism views Turkey as the center of a new caliphate uniting the Muslim world. He preaches a “Turkish renaissance” with a modern spin “to ensure that religion and science go together and that science penetrates not only individual lives, but also social life.”

What Gulen means by science is of an entirely different order than the Western understanding. This “imam from rural Anatolia,” as his website describes him, inhabits the magical world of jinns and sorcery. Science is just a powerful form of magic of which Turks should avail themselves to enhance their power, as he writes in his 2005 book The Essentials of the Islamic Faith:

Jinn are conscious beings charged with divine obligations. Recent discoveries in biology make it clear that God created beings particular to each realm. They were created before Adam and Eve, and were responsible for cultivating and improving the world. Although God superseded them with us, he did not exempt them from religious obligations.

As nothing is difficult for God almighty, he has provided human beings, angels and jinns with the strength appropriate for their functions and duties. As he uses angels to supervise the movements of celestial bodies, he allows to humans to rule the Earth, dominate matter, build civilizations and produce technology.

Power and strength are not limited to the physical world, nor are they proportional to bodily size … Our eyes can travel long distances in an instant. Our imagination can transcend time and space all at once … winds can uproot trees and demolish large buildings. A young, thin plant shoot can split rocks and reach the sunlight. The power of energy, whose existence is known through its effect, is apparent to everybody. All of this shows that something’s power is not proportional to its physical size; rather the immaterial world dominates the physical world, and immaterial entities are far more powerful than material ones.

He goes on to warn about sorcery and the danger of spells; he allows that it is meritorious to break spells (for evil witches are everywhere casting spells), although a good Muslim should not make a profession of this, for then he might be mistaken for a sorcerer himself. The notion that “wind” and “energy” are “immaterial” forces exudes the magical world view of an Anatolian peasant; the miracles of technology are the secret actions of jinn, just as the planetary movements are the actions of angels. When Gulen talks about the union of religion and science, what he means quite concretely is that the magical view of jinns in the Koran aids the believer in enlisting these “immaterial” forces to enhance the power of Islam. Science for Gulen simply means the management of jinn. By our standards he is mad as a march hare.

Gulen is a shaman, a relic of pre-history preserved in the cultural amber of eastern Anatolia. Kemalism was sterile, brutal, secular and rational; the “moderate Islam” of Gulen is magical, a mystic’s vision of Ottoman restoration and a pan-Turkic caliphate. Erdogan, his acolyte, lives in a world where witches and jinn mix with Zionists and “Islamophobes.” American presidents would do well to find a better class of friends.

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So the US is not alone in having an ignorant leader! And both having overlapping ignorance, how nice!
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More properly, should he get his way, Kurdish Genocide. That appears to be in the works.
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Two words:

Armenian genocide.

That's the "greatness" he wants to go back to.
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from wikipedia

"As of May 2012 Gülen lives in a gated retreat located in The Poconos; according to Bekir Aksoy, manager of the retreat, Gülen had been "very, very ill" for five to six months."
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from Mr spengler's 2010 article
" Turkish media, is Gulen. The 78-year-old imam has lived in self-imposed exile for two decades"

wiki writes he is 71 so is that is true he was 68 then
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Canadian cable tv airs any number of utterly ludicrous programs about UFOs, Conspiracy theories, haunted houses, etc. One such channel is our so-called History channel! It airs utter junk (if one is an ignoramus, an illiterate and believes in jinns and magic -- well, that's tragic -- but if one advances, under a guise of so-called skepticism (as if one were a legitimate "researcher") an utterly bogus thesis -- this is FRAUD. It is designed so as to deceive the viewer. And yet this is what appears on television.
I think Carl Sagon and Martin Gardner would be rolling in their graves to discover how the West, itself (never mind the idiocy of Islam), is destroying the very foundations of modernity. Btw, Carl Sagan's "The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark" (1997) is available in PDF for free. (Another excellent text against pseudoscience is Martin Gardner's "Fads and Fallacies in the Name of Science" (1952). Gardner included an entire chapter on Scientology -- still an excellent source).
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Neither Martin Gardner nor Carl Sagan were atheists. Sagan was an agnostic. I don't believe science and religion are incompatible. (I thoroughly dislike the popular cult of atheists -- I believe they harm not only religion but science as well. They do damage to both subjects. The biologist Stephen Jay Gould, IMO, offered some of wisest observations about science and religion.)
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In our modern world the atheist did a good job convincing people there is no such thing as the demon possessed beast man buying time so they can murder millions in secular wars and prevent religious wars. And in the future it is not a good day when the beast man gets inside the head of even the atheists. What to do?
Revelation 13
"11 Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13 And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14 Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

18 This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.[e] That number is 666.
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in some of the old dusty books the number is 616 so you think you defeated one and another pops up. What to do?
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All these experience reports prove we have lost our innocense and where does it lead , hoplessness, depression dispair,perhaps nihlism . What tool do you use to survive and breath life back into your being?
There I was with my very first encounter with Saint Mary Magdeline at the 6th heaven holy river and we walked together to the 6th heaven lake where she began with the meeting of each of the 7 angels and so much more all the way to the great ocean and to the boundry of the 6th and 6th heaven where the three merimad type nyphs appear in control of the time the ring of power is transported and Mary got deep into my head as how i turn the snake the dragon the lion into total innocence and we travel together to the Holy Mary Mother of God sanctuary mount neck out to sea with a great view all the way to 11 th heaven
When it was time to enter the 10 heaven and the Lilith sanctuary she ask me to leave her there but I desire to enter to see if I could see the Holy Pope of Island sanctuary and i could not so I beagn to think of this lilith as being in some kind of prison and Saint Mary Magdeline was there to free her so she too can share in the mission for God all the way to the western boundery of the 10th heaven which would mean the beast man experience will be surrounded by all the heavens and all the angels and of the jinn and there will be no escapre for them except to repent and find healing and their innocense . This is my hope . Who know? When I visit John Calvin in hell and his dusty books he read for 500 years I see their was a trap door under his bed and I wonder if their were more rooms like his with dusty books other souls are reading to catch up with Satan the devil's tree of knowledge of good and bad
If this is there heaven this is not my mistake to put it politely
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keep bringing out more God forsaken experience please so the 13 heavens turn this to innocence someday
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"I will say again because it needs repeating. Islam is NOT uniquely unsuited to the modern world. Crazy Jews and Christians are equally unsuited."

So much the worse for the 'modern world', then, however you choose to define it. All three have outlasted many a "modern world" that smugly assumed its permanence. This one too shall pass. Berman has a clue:
http://www.amazon.com/Reenchantment-World-Morris-Berman/dp/0801492254 So does Wimsett: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0674015452/
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Thanks Spengler for this important info!
Even may be being kommunist in our youth, being antikommunist now,
who knows what next,
we were always kind of scientific in the sense of physics rules.

Believing in anatolian or other witches is for us the path downward for mankind.
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This just shows me that Obama is incapable of differentiating between good and evil; between friends and enemies and between those who support the U.S. and those who wish to destroy the U.S. This is what we get when we have the first Affirmative Action President; a man who has been given a free ride most of his life. Is it any wonder that his college transcripts are hidden? Is it any wonder that aside from his ghost written books there is not one single article that has his name on it? Barry is a sham, a liar and a thief; he stole the minds of half the country who voted for him.
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Tomorrow after a long absence I visit the great Lilith sanctuary. Believe you me there are many many caves there for the jinn to hide in and a few mounts I can see through the forest without having to climb a tree the great Holy Pope of Rome Island in the sea where i learn my lesson very long story not to be so tempted to sit on the throne facing the great angel Uriah.
in case Lilith gets frisky with me I bring Saint Mary Magdeline the first human being flesh eyes to see Jesus with the stone removed from his tomb. I'm sure Lilith was peaking at the great event so they can share stories and I believe I will be well protected from the frisky jinn
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The Lilith sanctuary will then be in the 10th heaven with the two 10th heavens to translate in the future but this will be the only 10th heaven with a view of the Island of the Holy Pope of Rome with all the souls of the Popes from the very beginning
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Jingo Unchained
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The jinn are of great value with the chosen Master and Commander

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinn
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There's a sit-com here: "I Dream of Djinn-Djinn. A clown at a run down circus in Anatolia finds a bottle with a beautiful magic woman from old Samarkand and becomes prime minister by wishing it. Starring Burcu Gunes. I'd watch it just for her - with the sound off.
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Spengler,

I always feel cheated when I get up bright and early on a Monday or Tuesday morning to read you column and you write about religion. Your Monday column on the Vatican was an exception. Although the realities of a new Pope have never been much of a thought for me, I realize that Jews in particular have been spoiled over the course of my lifetime with respect to Popes. We have probably had the most Jew friendly Popes in the history of the church in the form of Benedict and John Paul.

Your comments and dershowitz as well really scared me. Your column almost read like an obituary for the church. Dershowitz and your fears about a "Third World Pope" aware SERIOUS considerations I never took into account. I really owe benedict an apology too. My friends and I have repetaedly joked about how Benedict has a "Jew hatin face". I know it sounds stupid but Im sure some folks (Jews) who look at him will know what i mean. ANyways, while I stand by the "Jew hatin face" comment, its clear that the Jewish peolple have never had a better friend in a Pope.

However, you fears about a third world people are very palpable and very real. AMd actually, its not a question of "if" but "when" we will get a third world Jew/Capitalist hating Pope.

Which brings me to this artticle about Erdogan! You (rightfully) mock him for his belief in Jins and his peasant world view. But once again, I have to tell u that if you think this nutty superstition is unique to islam, you really dont get it. The entire Latino commitment to Catholicism is no different than Erdogans Jins! These 3rd world Catholics, and even plenty in the modern world too have a belief system that is no different. This people believe in Stigmata, spells, exorcisms etc. Indeed Jesus is just the ULTIMATE Jin for these people. The appeal of a human being sacraficed to attone for sins is something right out of the theology of Baal! Indeed MUCH religion, including Jews is still going dtrong based on the belief that God or Jesus is the ultimate Jin. And through beilief in Jesus you bring good spirits upon youself.

Islam doesnt have a monopoly on stupid fantasctic beliefs. They just have a good market share. But many Christians and Jews are no better. Its no wonder Christians in particular need to have missionaries. So much of their doctrine is based upon bringing the forces of magic to help members of the flock. When the magic works to your favor you are a believer. But when the magic crosses you well then you start looking for a new magician. I had this converstaion with a friend who is a Catholic Priest and also an exorcist. I didnt think exorcists were real. But they are. he was getting real annoyed with my skepticism about the whole possession thing.

I will say again because it needs repeating. Islam is NOT uniquely unsuited to the modern world. Crazy Jews and christians are equally unsuited.
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"Islam doesn't have a monopoly on stupid fantastic beliefs."

Agreed, and in general, 'Worldview X" (pick your favorite) is unlikely to be empty of adherents with 'stupid fantastic beliefs' if the number of adherents is more than can fit into a small meeting hall. The difficulty comes when the unifying narratives that support these beliefs imply the urgency of exterminating the group to which one belongs, and sufficient numbers of adherents with sufficient influence in your community are committed to translate that urgency into public policy and action.

Magical thinking is as much a malady of the "modern" global climate change zealots as it is of the indigenous peoples of third world countries, and the indifferently tutored followers of Torah and Jesus. It also thrives among rank materialists who think their utopian plans can be realized by pursuing them with sufficient determination - as was so frequently demonstrated in the past century, and more recently in the financial calamities of the past decade.

A less a-historical consideration of the relation between religion and magic can be found in studies like this: http://www.amazon.com/Religion-Decline-Magic-Penguin-History/dp/0140137440 -
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