What The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg Gets Wrong about Netanyahu’s Impact in America and Israel
Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic and now a columnist for Bloomberg News as well is one of the most highly acclaimed reporters covering the Middle East. A former IDF soldier and a man with years of experience writing about the region, no one comes closer than him to providing solid material when he writes lengthy pieces about the conflict.
But when he editorializes and comments, he can be as off-base as anyone else, despite his own decades of writing and reporting. Like many liberals, Goldberg sees the settlements and the expansion of them by religious zealots as the main impediment to peace in the region, not Palestinian intransigence about any willingness to recognize a Jewish state anywhere in Palestine. Take this column, in which Goldberg writes the following:
Their greatest achievement, though, is in the interconnected realms of ideology and propaganda. The settlement movement, its supporters, and its apologists (in Israel and in America) have successfully conflated support for their movement with support for Israel and for Zionism itself. They have created a reality in which criticism of the settlement movement has come to equal criticism of Israel. You see this at the AIPAC convention, where no speaker dared suggest that the settlements are, in fact, the vanguard of Israel’s dissolution, rather than the vanguard of Zionism.
Does Goldberg really believe that if there were no settlements, and if they were suddenly abandoned, that Mahmoud Abbas would suddenly recognize Israel and be ready to make peace? He knows well that since 1948 and Israel’s creation, the Arab nations and the Palestinian leadership — then commanded by the Nazi supporter the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem — have vowed never to accept any Jewish state anywhere in Palestine. To them, all of Israel was an illegal settlement by colonialist-imperialist occupiers.
Has Goldberg read any of the penetrating columns by Sol Stern, who regularly has shown how Israel has offered to make peace, only to find Palestinian rejection facing them? (Stern’s most recent one can be read here.) As Stern writes, it is not the settlers who are the impediment to peace, but the false “Nakba narrative” propounded by the PA leaders, especially Abbas. Stern points out: “No one living under Palestinian rule dares publicly question this lie. No historian dares offer his people a balanced account of the 1948 war, of who attacked whom, and of the reasons for the flight of the refugees. As long as this remains the case, the ‘right of return,’ far more than any question of borders, will remain the principal roadblock to successful peace negotiations.”
Goldberg argues, however, that what he calls his “centrist” position:
[Is] that the settlements should be fought as if there was no such thing as anti-Zionism, and anti-Zionism should be fought as if there were no such thing as the settlements. This, I think, reflects the centrist position. A centrist on the question of Israel believes that the settlements represent a corruption of Jewish ideals, but that Israel remains the physical manifestation of a righteous cause.
Now that Benjamin Netanyahu has made it clear that in fact many smaller settlements outside of what will be a secure Israel after a two-state solution will in fact cease to exist, and the larger ones in areas everyone knows will be assigned to Israel proper, the settlement issue will fall by the wayside.
In another blog post, Goldberg argues that Netanyahu’s comments to the president at the White House meeting were a disaster, and he writes: “I watched the Prime Minister of Israel publicly lecture the President of the United States on Jewish history with a mixture of shock, amusement and bewilderment.” He is perplexed because he says that the president “the day before, gave Netanyahu two enormous gifts — a denunciation of the radical Islamist terror group Hamas, and a promise to fight unilateral Palestinian efforts to seek United Nations recognition as an independent state.”
Others, as we know, have pointed out that the president’s denunciation of Hamas was two-faced, since he did not actually say that negotiations with them should not take place. Goldberg then writes the following about what he terms was Netanyahu’s “pedantic behavior”:
President Obama actually does understand Jewish history: he understands it well enough to know that the permanent occupation of the West Bank would be an historical anomaly;
2) Even if Obama didn’t understand Jewish history, it is still off-putting for many Americans to watch their president being lectured by a foreign leader in his own house;
3) The Prime Minister doesn’t seem to understand what President Obama is trying to tell him: That Israel cannot maintain the occupation of the West Bank without becoming a pariah state (previous LIkud-bred prime ministers, namely Ariel Sharon and Ehud Olmert, both understood this);
4) The Prime Minister desperately needs President Obama to defend Israel in the United Nations, and even more crucially, to confront Iran’s nuclear program, which poses an existential threat to the Jewish state; angering him constantly doesn’t seem to be an effective way to marshal the President’s support;
5) Based on the mail I’ve been receiving, and conversations I’ve been having with Jewish leaders of various ideological persuasions, there is a great worry that Netanyahu, through his behavior even more than his policies, is alienating other of Israel’s friends, needlessly.
Yes, he writes, Netanyahu got standing ovations at AIPAC and before Congress. But Goldberg warns that these should not confuse us. AIPAC, he thinks, represents only a minority of American Jews, especially younger ones. (The implication is that J Street, despite its much lower numbers and lesser impact, does represent American Jews — which is why they are featuring Goldberg’s comments on their website.) But he predicted, as we know incorrectly, “I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a slightly more tepid reaction to Netanyahu among many Democrats. Make no mistake: Support for Israel (and for the Netanyahu government in particular) is slowly waning among Democrats.” (my emphasis.)
Since Goldberg wrote those words, more and more defections from the president have taken place among top Democrats. Ed Koch wrote on his weekly blog that he will not vote for Obama in 2012, despite his agreement with the president’s domestic policies. Front page stories in all the major American newspapers led with the news of Democratic endorsement of Netanyahu’s main points, and the wealthy Jewish Democrat and financier of Obama’s 2008 campaign, Haim Saban, announced he would not contribute to the 2012 campaign because of Obama’s views on Israel.
Yet Goldberg claims that Netanyahu, “through his pedantic and pinched behavior, [is]helping to weaken Israel’s standing among Democrats.”
Yes, today Goldberg finally acknowledges, quoting author Ya’acov Lozowick, that “Netanyahu broke substantial new ground in his speech. No Israeli prime minster before Ehud Barak spoke openly about Israel recognizing Palestinian sovereignty.” I assume that by printing Lozowick’s comments, he agrees with him. And Lozowick adds that “the assumption all over Israel’s media today is that he enjoys broad support in the Israeli electorate for his positions.”
So why, then, is it so surprising that Netanyahu should also not find broad support from Americans and Democrats as well? Could it be that Goldberg, because of his hostility to the Likud, judged Netanyahu’s effect on his trip here prematurely?
One answer comes from Dana Milbank in The Washington Post. He tells the story of how he took his Israeli au pair with him to hear Netanyahu both at AIPAC and before Congress. The 21 year old Inna Graziel, he writes, is “a moderate who was suspicious of the uncompromising Netanyahu,” yet, upon hearing the prime minister speak, his words “turned her into a supporter.” Milbank, a liberal who does not like Netanyahu or Likud, complains that “I saw through her eyes how badly Obama bungled his Middle East speech. He unwittingly strengthened Israeli hawks such as Netanyahu and made the already remote prospect of peace that much more distant.”
So unlike Goldberg, Milbank sees that Obama’s speech and arguments were counter-productive, and made even moderates into fervent Netanyhau supporters. Like Goldberg, the au pair Graziel opposes settlements, and considers herself a backer of Livni and Kadima. That is, until now. After hearing Obama’s comments on the 1967 borders, she “was stunned. ‘Jerusalem, the Golan Heights and the West Bank, the 1967 lines? It’s crazy,” she said. “It’s impossible.’ Holding her thumb and forefinger an inch apart, she added, ‘They’ll be this close to Tel Aviv.’ The phrase about ‘agreed swaps’ changed nothing. To Inna’s ears, Obama had issued an existential threat to Israel, and it put her in an unfamiliar place: in lockstep with Bibi. When he told Obama in the Oval Office that the 1967 lines were ‘indefensible,’ Inna celebrated. ‘Now, he’s our guy,’ she said. ‘He’s the voice of Israel.’”
Precisely: The very Oval Office comments made by Netanyahu that so upset Jeffrey Goldberg won applause from the kind of moderate Israeli whose politics Goldberg approves of, and changed her into a Netanyahu supporter. What made her change was, Milbank says, “Netanyahu’s firm rejection of Obama’s frightening proposal. ‘It’s a big thing to say ‘no’ to the president of the United States,’ she said. If there were an election now, she said, ‘I would vote for Bibi.’”
So a final question for Jeffrey Goldberg. Have you, like the young Ms. Graziel, reconsidered your own earlier assessments? Don’t you think that you should? We await your response.






GREAT column, Mr. Radosh. Should be required reading for everyone who thinks—if “thinks” is the right word, which it isn’t; “feels” is probably closer to what Jeffrey Goldberg does—as Goldberg does.
May you go from strength to strength and continue to have the strength to point out the lunacy and inaccuracy that surrounds this topic. You are as clear as is the great prime minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu.
Thank you.
I think Goldberg would agree and has said that Palestinian intransigence is the main obstacle to a settlement. I believe he has characterized the offers from Ehud Barak and Olmert as generous but I’ll let Goldberg defend himself.
The article is based on a false premise. Its quite possible to believe that the Palestinians are the main obstacle to peace but settlement expansion isn’t helping. That might be a definition of a pro-Israel Zionist in the center. Precisely because of Palestinian intransigence there’s not going to be a peace deal anytime soon which makes the expansion of settlements all the more problematic should the Palestinians ever come around. The more these settlements become enmeshed in Palestinian towns the harder its going to be to untangle them, ie draw new lines or remove the settlers.
One can likewise praise Netanyahu for moving left in so far as accepting the idea of Palestinian state while criticizing his stance on the settlements. There’s no contradiction.
While we’re asking for clarification, Mr. Radosh, can you tell us if you support building settlements in Kiryat Arba or Itamar? Is this a good idea? Is it good for Zionism? Netanyahu may in principle be willing to give up these settlements but when?
We’ll see what happens with Jewish votes and donors, especially the young. You sited a couple old blowhards, Koch and Saban. The Republican presidential candidate is likely to be a social conservative. Jews don’t vote for them.
For what its worth, I’m 37 and I let my AIPAC membership lapse.
“So a final question for Jeffrey Goldberg. Have you, like the young Ms. Graziel, reconsidered your own earlier assessments?”
The question I would ask Goldberg (and Milbank) is this: Do you accept Netanyahu’s premise that Israel is and should remain a “Jewish” state? That is what lies behind Netanyahu’s declaration that there will be no “right of return” to Israel. It is an existential question that lies at the very heart of the conflict. One shouldn’t assume that even Goldberg would be comfortable answering, “Yes”. Secular ideologies that invoke multi-culturalism and issues of cultural identity make a “yes” difficult for American progressives and liberals. If Israel is to be a liberal western democracy, then answering “yes” might be tantamount to a renunciation of that which they hold sacred and a denial of a Utopian ideal.
Ron, you spent much of the first part of this essay giving Goldberg credibility that he no longer deserves. He has vaporized all of it because he cannot and will not be unshackled from his brain dead leftism. He is a leftist first, foremost and always. He sees the world through a leftist prism that bends truth as well as light.
Obama and Goldberg do not like Likud, precisely because Likud does not bend to the distortion of that prism. Therefore, Goldberg is myopic and his reporting on what he sees is out of focus, abstract, disingenuous and replete with falsehoods. In the old days, we used to call such a person a liar.
I have no soft spot in my heart for the leftists and their tricks of distortion.
It matters not one whit to me what bona fides chits they allegedly accumulated in the yesteryears any more than it would persuade me that John Wayne Gacy was a wonderful clown at kid’s birthday parties before he started stuffing lifeless bodies in his crawlspace.
Prime Minister Netanyahu gave a polite lesson on his position…which was a magnitudinally lesser offense in manners than being left to dine a lone, having no state dinner in his honor, having no red carpet, having no speech in his capital, having been sold out on the pre-1967 lines and having “settlements” in his CAPITAL be the reason for being roughed up by the likes of Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and Barry Hussein Obama.
Goldberg has picked a side. Even before the contest began. That’s how you know it was rigged.
Like it or not Jeffrey Goldbergs articles this week are devastating for the bibi cause in the US.
The quotes where people call him an antisemite, a capo and much worse are particularly devastating—he did serve as an Israeli prison guard after all
One can speculate upon his motivation
—perhaps he realized that no one was taking him seriously anymore after his worship of Fidel Castro
Most people will see this act by Jeffrey Goldberg as rats leaving a sinking ship–very bad news indeed
Americans love Bibi. Turks like Victor, who support the Palestinians who danced in the streets after 9/11, not so much.
Obama’s speech to State could not have been more politically damaging to himself and more politically beneficial to Netanyahu. It made Jews wake up. I guarantee you, they tuned into Netanyahu’s speeches. When they see and hear for themselves, *without the MSM filter*, suddenly things get clarified. Like the man’s au pair, they got religion. Another WTF (Winning The Future) moment.
I don’t think the Israelis inspire a great deal of confidence in being able to handle the situation. Which is in fact what the world is really looking for. Israel tries too hard to gain sympathy, when what they really need is confidence. They seem to be diddling a lot. And placing themselves between several chairs.
Some people reject the idealism of their youth because they learn from experience and further education that it was misplaced. Others reject it because they make so many compromises to ” get ahead ” as adults that rejection is the only way to avoid psychological implosion.
Goldberg has rejected life in Israel. It is easier for him to look in the mirror if he demeans those most motivated to live there, especially those motivated to do so by their faith.
His boot-licking, his willingness to ignore the anti-semitic background of Obama, coupled with his attack on Jewish self determination and freedom are symptomatic of deeper issues, more personal than political.
One last point-
Before assigning individuals to their military jobs the IDF does extensive testing, physical, psychological, intellectual and emotional. Those with the qualities of leadership, motivation, bravery, critical thinking, etc, are assigned tasks commensurate with their abilities.
Goldberg was not a pilot or a combat soldier. His job was to keep men in boxes. Telling indeed.
I agree with JL. It’s difficult to gain sympathy after a long process of delegitimation, mainly by left, but sometimes by centrist positions. So, Israel has to decide what’s best strategically without looking for sympathy which is often hollow anyway. I was astonished by Mr. Goldberg’s post treating Mr. Netanyahu like a schoolboy. I assume that Benzion Netanyahu’s son really has more historical knowledge about Israel and Jewish history. And fresh memories of the events around his brother Joni. Besides there’s some experience with evacuating the Gaza Strip. People tend to ignore the core problem which is that neither Fatah nor Hamas ever offered to recognize Israel. Obviously that would make things a lot easier. Great post, Mr. Radosh. I lieked the example with Inna. Thanks.
How many Americans or any other nationality for that matter come to Israel in their 20′s and become pilots or combat soldiers? My guess is almost nil.
Pilots, not so much. It’s easier to get into Harvard thant to get accepted to the IDF pilot’s course. But there are lots and lots of immigrant combat soldiers. You can’t serve in combat if you have any health problems, which I will graciously surmise to have been the case with Goldberg. To paraphrase Sholem Aleyhem, it’s no shame to have served in a non-combat unit, but it’s no great honor either. The Israeli equivalent of graduating from a fourth-rate college. And one wouldn’t mention it around the guys who served in combat units.
You have guessed wrong.
http://www.Mahal-IDF-Volunteers.org/about/history.htm
Your serious aren’t you? You have to go back to 1948? That reminds me of all the Israel haters who have to go back to Baruch Goldstien when they look for acts of Jewish terrorism.
If you spend some time exploring the sight I posted the link to you will find that it is current not simply historical. Of course since you have made up your mind there is no opportunity for education to leak in. Shame.
As an Australian Jew and a fervent Zionist (most of us are), I felt enormous pride when I watched Bibi’s speech at the Oval Office. To hear the world’s TOP Jew telling “them” like it is! Watching Obama shuffle, reading subsequently the squirming reports by the MSM. It was a big NEVER AGAIN.
Poor Jeff with his measure of self hate, is on another planet. (I read an article by Thomas Friedman today – he shares the same extra-terrestrial address).
These American Jews who identify as Jews but I suspect with a sense of shame and embarrassment, just don’t get it. They have just witnessed a turning point in history – Israel standing up for itself, through its brilliant leader Netanyahu and declaring enough is enough.
Didn’t Palin suggest that to them? “Israel needs to stop apologizing for itself.” Guess they thought that was a good recommendation.
ref: “Israel needs to stop apologizing for itself…”
It wasn’t She Who Shall Not Be Named who came up with that… it was Ze’ev Jabotinsky (whose personal secretary incidentally, was Bibi’s father). Jabotinsky died before Israel’s creation, and even before the Shoah –after seeing the writing on the European wall, which was studiously ignored or furiously rejected by much or most bien pensant leftish intellectuals like Mr. Goldberg, so he was speaking of the Jews more generally:
“Our habit of constantly and zealously answering to any rabble has already done us a lot of harm and will do much more. … We do not have to apologize for anything. We are a people as all other peoples; we do not have any intentions to be better than the rest. As one of the first conditions for equality we demand the right to have our own villains, exactly as other people have them. … We do not have to account to anybody, we are not to sit for anybody’s examination and nobody is old enough to call on us to answer. We came before them and will leave after them. We are what we are, we are good for ourselves, we will not change, nor do we want to.
‘Instead of Excessive Apology’ (1911)
BTW, ref: “one wouldn’t mention it around the guys who served in combat units”…in my experience, bloodied veterans generally don’t lord it over those who served in support outfits/positions.
Only Bibi deals properly with “the day after.” After the territory is returned to an independent Palestinian state and that Arab state then violates the treaty, what then? War!
Egypt has violated its treaty with Israel from day one. A “cold peace” was not the envisioned outcome. Now the Egyptians want the treaty “revised.” If that includes re-militarization of the Sinai or an open arming of Hamas with sophisticated weapons, then the treaty has been abrogated. It will be the “day after” with the Egyptians. What now!
Israeli families donate their semi-adult children to the protection of the State of Israel so that the children of the State of Israel can breath free for another day. Until Goldberg and his ilk do the same, they have zero – zero – right to suggest that Israel trust its neighbors to maintain normal human relations.
Indeed, until people like Goldberg recognize that it is Israel that is at the fulcrum of change in the Muslim world, he will have no right to claim prescience in the affairs of the Middle East. Israel is the counterpoint to Islamism. It is a zero-sum game. If Israel manages to persist, then the West may be able to retain the values that Goldberg prizes. If Israel is emasculated to the point of becoming dependent upon the US for its survival, Goldberg’s paradisaical visions for the world are going to be up to him to fight for in a much more up-close and personal way.
Jeffrey Goldberg, a liberal?! Another trip into a land where words are detached from their meaning so that the author can flog his opponent
Gotta agree with you there, Shady – there’s nothing “liberal” about a left-wing Democrat. Sullivan was the “conservative” at the Atlantic.
The religious tradition of the justice and mercy have allways demanded some concessions of the Jews.The JPost author describes as after the victory over the Egyptians the generals have at once made the concessions!
The Palestinian concessions` parties prosper during Israel`s history of wars for existance! Patriots of the fighting nation are cold nationalists(and racists)!
So the 5th column of “liberal” Jews feels well in Israel and Diasphora.They are natural and they are deadly dangerous!
Obama’s support for the Muslim Brotherhoodlums pretty much says it all.
I’m sure that Mr. Goldberg would have told the Jews in Europe to follow Ghandi’s
advice to resist the Nazis peacefully. Also, I’m sure that he will be the first
American to enlist in the resistance to save Israel from annihilation. I’m sure that he thinks the Arabs and other anti-Semites don’t mean him when they talk about killing all the Jews. Lastly, I think that he is one of the biggest
schmucks around.
Just another lefty Israeli trying to sound like a Western leftist. They absorbed the thinking processes, but do not understand the anti-semitic verbal and argument cues. Like, collective guilt or inescapable sin, e.g., the “settlements” condemn “Zionism.”
Here’s a good article by Goldberg about the settlers
http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2004/05/31/040531fa_fact2_a?currentPage=all
Among The Settlers, New Yorker, May 31, 2004
To ignore the behaviour of the settlers as related by Jeff Goldberg in the article above is to blind oneself to an obvious obstacle to peace.
It might not be the biggest obstacle but it surely is one. Not only that, it makes Israel look bad. These guys resemble the hateful clerics we often see on MEMRI.
You consider that a “good article”? Little more than propaganda, it presented little more than cartoonish caricatures of the settlers, which reminded me of nothing so much as the filthy political cartoons of Nazi Germany. Goldberg described each of his settlers in the least flattering terms (he fell just short of emphasizing their “big Jew noses, beady eyes and money-grubbing hands”, but not by much!) and he made their actions appear rough, uncouth, even despicable, at best! If you took him at his word, I can see how you believe the settlers as a whole, are “part of the problem”. A problem, perhaps, in search of a “final solution”?
Always giving each other the high hat – that’s why it’s easy for the enemies of Israel to put this Jew at that Jew’s throat.
You need to watch some more MEMRI, Gibson.
The term “settlers” is a misnomer. They are really re-settlers. They are living in Judea and Samaria, the historic homeland of the Jewish people. The 1948 invasion by Jordan drove Jews out of the old city of Jerusalem and the rest of Judea and Samaria. In their attempt at further conquest in 1967, Jordan lost all of the area back to Israel.
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The term “settlers” is a misnomer. They are really re-settlers. They are living in Judea and Samaria, the historic homeland of the Jewish people. The 1948 invasion by Jordan drove Jews out of the old city of Jerusalem and the rest of Judea and Samaria. In their attempt at further conquest in 1967, Jordan lost all of the area back to Israel.
Indeed. My jaw dropped when I heard Obozo suggest that Israel should start negotiating from the pre Six Day War borders. IOW, Israel should start out by giving up The Wailing Wall and much of Jerusalem. Makes you want to question his sanity.
2) Even if Obama didn’t understand Jewish history, it is still off-putting for many Americans to watch their president being lectured by a foreign leader in his own house;
[Quick, somebody give little Jeffrey a hankie, and get me an emesis basin - just in case I have anything left from hearing this allegedly insightful complaint already repeated ad nauseum.]
In other words, gross fail! Netanyahu merely played by what had in effect become the house’s own [damn] rules, that is, as laid down by Obama’s own [damn] ad hoc actions, which then became the same [damn] rules for “diplomatic” engagement, applying to each of the Party’s own “diplomatic” actions in this instance.
In sum, Obama suddenly invoked his own
asininebrilliant rules for “diplomaceh” and got soundly whupped anyway by an uppity Israeli Jew defending the truth of reality and the right of his free democracy to exist. But the next thing we’ll probably hear is that such a defense is raaaaacist! against Obama!To JPeden thank you for your comments. I too feel that issues aside, Netanyahu insulted this country when he violated all rules of diplomatic protocol when he lectured our President in person and on national TV. This more than anything he said shows why he is an obstacle to peace. He is incapable of thinking outside of the box. The President never said that the pre1967 borders were the absolute only the beginning starting point.
Boy, Max, if this “lecture” ticked you off, you must have flown into a boiling rage when that Iraqi reporter threw a shoe at our president – on national TV!
That’s what’s so admirable about you Democrats: no matter how contentious our politics gets at home, you guys are sure to rally behind a GOP prez in time of war. “Politics stops at the water’s edge!”
P.S. It’s “groovy” that you employ “happening” expressions, like “think outside the box”.
Goldberg makes cynical use of his Israeli service to tar and feather Likud, the religious and the settlements. He is also enamored of Obama; in other words, a typical liberal Galut Jew who would rather let Israel go down, albeit reluctantly, than tarnish his “liberal” image. He is a useful idiot for the Amanpours and Andrea Mitchell of the media hate Israel left.