How ObamaCare and an Old Red Union Betrayed Its Poorest Workers
ObamaCare’s unintended consequences continue to grow. A little over a week ago, in a Wall Street Journal article written by reporter Yuliya Chernova, readers learned that “one of the largest union-administered health-insurance funds in New York is dropping coverage for the children of more than 30,000 low-wage home attendants.” Why did this happen? The union and its health fund, that of local 1199SEIU United Healthcare Workers East, an affiliate of the SEIU (Service Employees International Union), “blamed financial problems it said were caused by the state’s health department and new national health-insurance requirements.” (my emphasis)
That last line refers, of course, to the new requirements mandated by the Obama health care law that would, among other things, supposedly guarantee health care for all uninsured children. Now, the SEIU affiliate told its members last month “that their dependents will no longer be covered as of Jan. 1, 2011.” That means 6000 children of the poorest workers covered by this SEIU local will lose their current coverage, which they previously enjoyed as part of the union’s health benefits for its members.
The union’s health provider, a firm called Fidelis Care, would no longer cover employees, since the union had what its officers called a “dramatic shortfall” between employee contributions to the fund and premiums charged by Fidelis Care. The union had pooled contributions from several home-care agencies and then bought insurance from Fidelis. As union officials explained to its members, the “new federal health-care reform legislation requires plans with dependent coverage to expand that coverage up to age 26,” and that meant the union’s “limited resources” that were evidently already stretched “as far as possible” would now require extended benefits that “would be financially impossible.”
To put the double-speak more plainly, ObamaCare made health care impossible to provide for its members — the poor and the working-class that supposedly the new ObamaCare was meant to benefit. The reality, Mitra Behroozie, executive director of the union’s benefit and pension funds, explained, was that the union fund already faced a $15 million shortfall in 2011 that would only grow larger if workers’ children were to be covered.
Because of ObamaCare, New York State now required the fund to participate in what is called the Family Health Plus Buy-In Program, which since 2008 was supposed to give the poor state assistance to buy health care coverage. But instead, as Behroozie put it, “they raised insurance rate increases without any increase in funding, and then cut Medicaid funding to the same workers nine times in the last three years.” The State of New York, however, replied that it did not force 1199 to buy into any plan, and that the union’s actions had been its own choice.
Part of the problem, the Fidelis head explained, is that the covered workers who will no longer have insurance for their dependents are home health-care workers and attendants, who get sicker than most people because of where they work. In other words, the insurer loses when he gives these people health care premiums, which is why they raised their rates by 60%! Yet employer contributions remained constant, so the benefit fund responded by cutting the roles of eligible members. So while the big unions like the UAW get special deals to exempt them from new rules that hurt their relatively well–off union members, the ones that lose are the hardest working and lowest paid health-care attendants, whose rates go up and whose children now lose any health insurance.
As we all know, this union, an SEIU affiliate, was among the largest to fight during the election for the agenda of the Obama administration, and in particular, to support the new health care legislation.
There is also another ironic component that has not been noticed, and hence, I am bringing this to the attention of PJM readers. The local whose members are now suffering is the descendant of the most well-known Communist-led union in the New York City area — the original Local 1199 of the Drug, Hospital and Health Care Employees, originally created as a small drugstore workers’ union by the Red labor leader Leon Davis decades ago.
Writing in the New York Times Book Review on September 24, 1989, political reporter Joe Klein (now of Time magazine), called its members “the humblest of all laborers, the bed-pan carriers, the bottle washers and laundrymen” who were “overwhelmingly black and Hispanic.” Of course, they still are in our present times. Hence back in the heyday of the civil rights movement of the 1960s, they took to the streets in a series of dramatic strikes that led to organizing success and major press coverage. Klein comments about them:
“But there was a more subtle romance at work here as well: the organizing of the hospital workers was the last dance for the generation of… tough-guy labor organizers-many of them Communists-who had helped create the C.I.O. in the 1930’s and were then purged when the Cold War began.”
Klein notes accurately that its first professional organizers, Leon Davis, Elliott Godoff and Moe Foner, were among those who survived what they called a “witch-hunt” by, as Klein puts it, “hiding out in a small ‘progressive’ pharmacists’ local, and who represented the most benign face of a malignant ideology.” The top man, Davis, Klein notes, was fortunate to stage these strikes at a moment in New York City’s past when “the state was flush and willing to pay for the contracts he won.” Strikes would be called, hospitals would say they faced chaos and closure if demands were not met, and the state treasury would step in with cash to cover the new high bills.
Now, so many years later, New York State is even in worse shape than it was in the 1970s, when the arrangement first began to fall apart. As for the union, which then faced a major split between its original Marxist-Leninist leaders and a new group of black nationalists, Klein notes:
“Mr.Davis had constructed the union in a classic Marxist-Leninist fashion, with a strong central ‘politburo’ and a weak assembly of union delegates. He handpicked his successor, …whom he groomed for many years and expected to control after formally relinquishing his title.”
As so often happened, things did not work as the union’s top old commissar hoped. The new leader had different plans, and she moved quickly to purge the old Reds out of the leadership, and the rest of that group’s supporters. As time passed, that leader would also be replaced. One thing remained constant .. the SEIU was still on the left fringe of the union movement, and remained so as part of outgoing head Andy Stern’s SEIU, which eventually took it over. As Klein concludes his review of a book about the union, “The story of 1199 remains a metaphor…for the sad journey of American Communism, a twisted paternalism that ultimately lacked sufficient faith in the workers it sought to serve.”
So add my own conclusion to Joe Klein’s old one: Andy Stern’s SEIU, the well-known ACORN partner and most radical of the public sector trade union movement, still knows how to work for a supposedly beneficial universal health care program, which in reality means worse health care for the many and great health care for the wealthy, who can opt out of the system and buy whatever medical care they need at the highest fees possible. Promising health care for all and especially the poor, its own union moves to hurt its own poorest members, blaming the development on the very health care program they worked for and supported, and that has led health insurance premiums to skyrocket.
It is indeed another travesty in the sad journey of American radical trade unionism, brought up to date for the 21st century.






Barack Obama most assuredly is thrilled by this development. It is wonderful news. Tears of joy may be rolling down Obama’s face. He probably sees these unfortunate health care workers as angered victims who will seek revenge at the ballot box. They will blame the Republicans and be highly energized and ready for the 2012 elections. What’s not to like?
And…the Pelosi minor league team will now scream that this would never happen if they hadn’t “bargained” away what they really wanted. In fact, when the SEIU/ACORN is involved, one never knows when the plot starts, ends or is masking something else entirely.
Of course they knew there would be tons of unintended consequences, and that they will take advantage of them, no matter what they are.
Even on a gameboard with 70 new players from the opposition, the Obamunists still control communications and have a firm grip on the power levers, including the army that will implement the crappola, and the army that will throttle the little people in the country class. What are the Union thugs going to do, jump to Palin? Romney?
I wouldn’t call this part of the plan, but it is part of the strategy. Community Organizers thrive on chaos. There aren’t any unexpected events, particulary events that can be played as hurting the herdable classes. There are only opportunities to gain or consolidate power.
The 2500 page document is only the first chapter. More chaos to come. More disappointment to fan. More villains to vilify. More crises to exploit. More disasters to propaganize. More promises to pretend.
At this point, nothing short of military intervention followed by a nasty civil war will be sufficient to pry the fingers of these statist monsters from the levers of power. And that is likely to leave us with a very different America than the one the Founders envisioned. But that’s certainly better than the concentration camp culture desired by the Machiavellian, Gramscian marxists who now appear to have the upper hand in Amerca today.
The former case allows us the opportunity to eventually sort things out; the latter offers only the gun, the gulag and the mass grave.
Now he is about to declare formal war on the United States….ban offshore drilling of 7 years.
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/12/01/obama-to-reverse-position-on-offshore-drilling/
That will, in order:
1. Throw Lousiana into perpetual poverty.
2. Ruin Texas’ economy
3. Increase unemployment by 1 to 2 percentage points country-wide
4. Double the price of gasoline within a year
5. Initiate the double-dip recession
6. Kill tens of thousands of seniors because fuel oil and natural gas prices will also go up (because demand will increase) and they won’t be able to afford to head their home.
7. Depress auto sales by 15 to 20%
8. Jump-start inflation.
9. Embolden tin-pot dictators around the globe who have oil reserves
10. Double the wealth and mischief-making capabilities of the Saudis and Iranians
11. Possible throw the world into another recession
12. Instigate military flare-ups aroun the world
for starters.
This man has to be impeached. There has been nothing anywhere close to him in the history of this country.
George Soros is, to my knowledge, behind this agenda. He has offshore oil interests in Brazil – and he, along with Pelosi and Reid, run Obama.
Obama, himself, has no capacity to read, review, analyze, any policy or agenda. He delegates everything, and he has surrounded himself with radical socialists determined to insert federal statism into the republic. Obama’s focus, as a pathological narcissist, is always and only on adulation. If he cannot get it from the masses, he will become vicious and vindicative – as we see that he is now doing.
85% of my company’s fleet is laid-up in either “warm stack”, (reduced manning), or “cold stack”,(mothballed).
Similar figures hold throughout for the rest of the “Cajun Navy”.
And the word from “World Headquarters” is that this is going to last for YEARS, since once rigs go off to the Far Abroad, they typically sign charters that are for years.
Which means they aren’t like taxis which “just appear” when they are needed or wanted.
If you live from say, Alabama ’round down to Corpus Christi, you’d do best to scrape that “Obama” sticker off your car.
And for the rest of y’all outside of the Oil Patch…get set for gasoline price hikes the likes of which you’ve never seen.
So YOU Obamavoters better not even BE in automobiles.
This is payback, and vindictivness against those states run by republicans, whom did not vote for him!
Sure there has. Germany 1935.
You HAVE to add lowly Mississippi into the mix as well when discussing the dire straits coming for Louisiana.
Sadly, Mississippi ranks LAST in public education scores nationally and MANY of those folks GO to Louisiana for ‘some’ type of prosperity.
Biloxi’s gambling industry, which boasted of more revenue than Atlantic City prior to Katrina hasn’t made the anticipated gains it expected once rebuilding has been completed.
Suffice to say, this supposed action by the President will GREATLY effect the South in general.
Conservatives like you don’t deserve to live in a civilized society. Hey, by the way, I’d like to buy 100,000 routers. How much?
Sorry, chimpster – the three bottle caps, two cracked marbles and a piece of chalk that comprise your ‘savings’ won’t even get you in the front door.
But here’s a banana. Now, back to your tire swing with you.
Ward, I am shocked at you! How could you be so cruel to a thinking being?
Comparing Sensei to a chimp is highly insulting… to the chimps.
Ward,
I wonder how many folks read the first sentence in your post without giving it due consideration? A civil war is not improbable.
Once again there are posters who treat our country’s deteriorating fiscal and political situation as if it’s a game. Snarky comments are all they have to offer. Odds are they’ll last less than a day when this thing goes to the street.
I’m already on the street. See ya soon.
Sure, tough guy. Whatever.
Remember – when you post, we’re not laughing with you.
We’re laughing at you.
yes, they are the ones wearing the idiotic surgical masks and cloth gloves
Unintended consequences? Or intended consequences kicking in a bit early?
I can hear it now: “Those disgusting Republicans have severely damaged these poor people. We tried our best—but those right-wing fanatics were still able to stab the hospital workers in the back.We must unite for the 2102 elections. Barack Obama is also going try to send you more goodies to make up for this injustice.” I am just so cynical. It may be the result of reading throughout the day Stanley Kurtz’s Radical-In-Chief and Jerome Corsi’s, The Obama Nation.
These outcomes as well as Obama’s ideological and CO tactics are entirely predictable…no surprises here. These people are out of control and furthermore, they are desperate. They are fools in every respect, but they have a mission, a cause.
Anyone that thinks a “shellacking” is not the desired outcome for these people, is crazy…it’s the perfect set-up for the manufacture of further chaos…a means to an end.
The “neophites” in Congress better wise up FAST or they will end up feeding the monster.
Obama gave numbers about premiums falling 3000 %. They are going up instead? You betcha.
It is just proof that either democrats or Obama on particular are huge liars or very bad at math! Either way they should not be trusted to run this country!
The marxists NEED an impoverished population. It is part of their strategy. They squeeze the people between their needs and the wall of the political power.
Before taking power, the marxist need an impoverished population as an “army”. To this goal, they create all sorts of possible problems to the economic development.
After taking power, the marxist need an even more impoverished population because an impoverished population has time only to fight to survive…and no time for tea parties.
Of course, it will take a lot of time before we all see this and we stop listening to the ideological cover-ups of the marxists.
And better still a lazy population- one that is not only impoverished but also one that wouldn’t want to return to capitalism even if given a free choice for fear that they would starve.
Easy. Another waiver. In the end, Obamacare will be like German grammar — there will be more exceptions to the rule than there are cases of it.
Yes but she doesn’t have to worry about paying for her gas or her mortgage or her car or anything cause Obama is paying for it all now. … ding ding ding .. Hopey Changey ready for table 4 …. table 4 … Hopey Changey!
Mr. Radosh:
“Promising health care for all and especially the poor, its own union moves to hurt its own poorest members, blaming the development on the very health care program they worked for and supported, and that has led health insurance premiums to skyrocket.
It is indeed another travesty in the sad journey of American radical trade unionism, brought up to date for the 21st century.”
Please don’t try to tell me that you’re surprised. After twenty years in the rank and file, I’m not surprised at this at all.
How many times were members’ PAC monies used to agitate the government to secure minimum-wage pay-raises for burger-flippers who were not members of any union at all?
And then the new minimum wage hike raised prices on everything, cranking up inflation so that the union membership, typically locked in to multi-year contracts with modest, (if any), wage increases of their own, took it up the wazoo until the next contract cycle, when the unions could use the previous min wage increase and resulting COLA increase to argue for more wage increases for the membership.
The only surprise would be if this latest example of the Labor Bosses using their members’ mouths to eat the fecal biscuit was actually an engineered scheme in order to sweep people into the government-run Socialist “Single-Payer”,(so-called), “Waiting Line of Death”.
Frankly, I don’t think Union Management types would be all that smart to pull off a caper like this.
Greedy enough, certainly, but since they’re only used to putting one over on their economic captives, they are out of practice when it comes to crafting a GOOD lie.
It would be illuminating to learn if SEIU brahmins are likewise going to be on the sidewalk infron of the clinic, or if THEY are covered by a differnt plan altogether than their thralls.
Anyone care to wager which is the case on THAT one?
It’s been roughly a day and a half since my last comments were posted. This has giving me some time to do more thinking concerning Barack Obama’s likely reaction to the plight of these hospital workers—and in many respects I will merely reiterate what I previously said: he doesn’t a damn about these people as individuals. Obama is a narcissist and only cares about other human beings if they are of value to advancing his agenda. This is a very nasty man. LBJ and Nixon could barely compete with him. It amazes me that there are still countless numbers of Americans who claim to “like him personally.” Obama is the same guy who threw his own grandmother under the bus during the presidential campaign. What more did you need to know?
FIRST! I couldn’t give two flying flips about what happens through any negative consequenes of any form, to any union members, their families and their unions. The unions and their socialist hierarchy have systemically destroyed Traditional America and it capitalist economies. STUPIDITY SHOULD HURT!
SECOND! There are few if any “unintended” consequences contained in Obama Care Bill. I’ll submit that the Bill was crafted at every turn to selectively fail and thereby, with intent, forcing the socialist program toward a Government “Savior” single payer system.
The unions were/are the masters of creating arbitrary, circular inflated value for goods and services, then, they turn around and want somebody else to pay for those inflated values they created…namely, the now majority, non union taxpayers through the federal government.
Obama Care is what the socialists and their labor unions wanted and fought for so, let them suffer all the “negative” consequences on their own and “within” their beloved unions. Maybe they can sell off some of their union luxury investments, big-screen TV’s, electronic toys, motor homes, new cars and then collect cans to donate to their union leadership morons to make up their own economic shortfall.
For the rest of America’s, non union flock, I also, have little sympathy. Sleeeping through decades, ignorant or non caring of what was happening at the hands of the socialist revolution should carry with it the same….STUPIDITY SHOULD HURT!
THE BIG QUESTION NOW, IS WHAT ARE YOU WILLING TO ENDURE, TO PAY FOR AND REVERSE THE DAMAGE TO TRADITIONAL AMERICA YOU’VE ALLOWED?
The idea of emasculating the commerce clause is a good one. Certainly the founders did not intend that tiny clause to be the germ of a a massively steroidal government. Why should commerce among the states be regulated anyway? If one wants to impose tariffs on another, so what? The market would quickly punish any state that became abusive and the state would also lose population. Who does the regulation of interstate commerce benefit anyway, other than criminal politicians and their paymasters.
There may be some need to regulate foreign commerce, but that isn’t the root of the problem anyway.
Exactly!
One would be hard pressed to find any socialists advancement…social or economic, of grave importantance that did not come through the constitutions commerce clause by the three branches of government….when all documents surrounding the commerce clause was restricted to regulating “free-trade” among the many States. Likewise, one cannot point to any other constitutional article and section that has allowed the abusive expansion of size and authority the government has taken for itself.
You are wrong. What you are proposing would make us into a balkanized set of individual states instead of being one big country. The point of the commerce clause was to present a UNITED front to the world. If it’s used in it’s proper intended usage like the rest of the constitution should be, a lot of our problems would go away. We need to get back to following the contract which is the constitution, not allowing all the unconstitutional schemes that have been foisted on us for the last 150 years. We need to start abolishing departments and laying off the workers and especially the management level government employees in those departments. Let them go find productive work somewhere.
“If it’s used in it’s proper intended usage like the rest of the constitution should be, a lot of our problems would go away.”
Good idea. We’ll just make them promise without their fingers crossed.
No reason not to trust them, after all.
It’s just about good theory.
The complete constitution is nothing more than a “promise”, except with one hand on the bible, if that means anything anymore. The Constitution does not state penalties for non-compliance. When the Supreme Court ruled that Andrew Jackson’s policy of moving the Indians west out of Georgia and Florida was illegal, he went ahead and did it anyway.
ok, so the Constitution is a set of promises.
I still like having the promises written down in a way that can’t be interpreted anyway the commissars choose.
The commerce clause has obviously been distorted far beyond it’s intent.
You can make a darned good case that the distortions are 99% of the reasons we are on the brink of a nation-destroying economic cataclysm, not to speak of an unparalled theft of personal freedoms which would be equally catastrophic.
Claryifing the clause would be a good step.
Chris…with all due respect you are incorrect and have fallen victim of revisionist history and revisionist constitutional interpretations.
The constitution was very explict in some areas of language and not so much in other areas. One of those area “not so much” is the commerce clause. So, in customary constitutional legal fashion one is left to rely upon the documents surrounding the “particular” issues of the constitution, to find the INTENT.
The documents around the commerce clause is very explicit…..[to regulate "tariff free commerce" between the many States.] This interpretation was essentially applied from the inception of the constitution until the more recent modern era of the 20th century. In fact, pretty much until the late 50′s when the federal government began regulating (creating) economic consolidation and centralization. Exports was pretty much controlled by States and industries until President Carter who began using our exports to punish and manipulate foreign nations involved in “political” differences with the U.S. government.
As for your comment about ["What you are proposing would make us into a balkanized set of individual states instead of being one big country. The point of the commerce clause was to present a UNITED front to the world."] May I respectfully suggest you study exactly what the constitutional framing of the REPUBLIC OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is all about. It is precisely a nation…a “Republic of States” under a LIMITED States and citizen represented federal government. So intent was the founders, that they included the precise language that anything not directly addressed in the constitution was to be referred to the States….which has systematically become less and less the case.
Sorry, but you are dead wrong in your supposition. Sad to continue watching this great nation through my eight decades of life be lost to revisionist history and constitutional interpretations. I do, however, applaud your vision for the need to restore and small limited federal government.
“There are few if any “unintended” consequences contained in Obama Care Bill.”
Barack Obama paid careful attention to radicals like Saul Alinsky, Frances Fox Piven,and Richard Cloward who advocate overwhelming the system until it collapses. It can then be replaced with a statist regime. The top leaders of business can remain in their jobs only if they do the bidding of the political masters. The damage resulting from the health care bill is indeed not unintended. Obama knew exactly what he was doing.
What I failed to address was this fact.
The framework of what we’re now calling “Obamacare” was in fact a blueprint bill designed by the Clinton era GOP Senate Leaders Dole & Lott……along with Democrats Mitchell & Daschle. Thats why Obama called in Lott and Daschle when the bill got bogged down by the current GOP. So, I give few if any passes to the “New-Age” GOP and their various flocks.
There’s a clear pedigree of ideas on display in the 0bama regime, and Alinsky’s methodologies are but one of the strands deeply woven into the DNA of these leftist ideas. We can easily follow the line back to Rousseau and deSade, but for our modern era, we can look to Antonio Gramsci, Herbert Marcuse, Alinsky and the Cloward-Piven duo. The commonality that they share is that of the “long march through the institutions,” the subversion of popular culture, art, politics, language and religion, and an overwhelming hatred for ordinary people – all with a view towards destroying and discrediting it all and replacing it with a grinding, totalitarian feudalism at best – or something far, far worse. We’ve had sufficient examples of just that latter case in the last century and this one, I think. So we can’t say that it hasn’t been done.
But the practitioners of the destructive Gramscian meme have an ugly surprise awaiting them, and it is this: Socialism, Communism and all of the various totalitarian ‘isms’ provide nothing more than the framework for the exercise of power – absolute power. Absolute, murderous power, as history has so clearly shown. So, no – they don’t work, and they were never intended to ‘work’ – outside of the minds of wishful thinkers and coercive utopians. The will to power as exercised within those frameworks is responsible for the slaughter of over 200 million people over the last 100 years or so – and the impoverishment and enslavement of hundreds of millions more.
Unfortunately for us all, the very same ideas that have animated history’s worst mass murderers have had a happy home in the White House for the past two years.
If these monsters succeed in acquiring what they’ve striven for over the past few generations: absolute power – they will be quite content to live in a world lit only by fire, ruling from atop a stinking pile of rubble and corpses as long as they think that THEY will be the ones doing so. Millions of us dead. The rest of us in chains. That’s their goal, their vision, their unholy cause. Why? Because it works for them.
There will be only one way to stop them…
Ward (again),
Lock and load, brother. And don’t forget to work on your ghillie suit if you don’t already have one.
I am grateful for the training I’ve received courtesy of Uncle Sugar, and I’ve forgotten none of it. I can still shoot in the mid 240s on the AQT. Let’s just say that we’re all well prepared here.
Watch yourself. Trouble can come from anywhere and at any time.
You are correct in your analysis! However, the GOP became infiltrated by the 60′s and 70′s indocrinations and abandoned their Traditional GOP values and platforms, thus, enabling the socialist revolution to advance through the federal governanace systems.
The saddest of all, is that our nation stands in the “eleventh-hour” with few sterile options to restore the Traditional America. All options, I’m afraid, carry more pain than the majority of American’s are willing or capable of enduring.
The most “absolute” strategy would be to convene and test a “Peoples Constitution Convention” and or the more conventional States Constitutional Convention, to amend Article I, Section 8, Commerce Clause……
FROM: ["To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes."]
TO: ["To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations declared National Security threats."]
By doing so, it would stop the Communist-Socialist-Progressive revolution in it’s tracks and allow for a systematic reversal of all their systemic successes to date. It would also reduce the size and authority of the federal government back down to essentially the original constitutional intent and return to the States their constitutional Rights to govern.
If not, then your analysis of “There will be only one way to stop them…” will be the only option if enough American’s have such a will and fortitude.
Where could you possibly get the idea they would follow this changed clause even if it did get changed? They don’t pay any attention to their oaths of office, neither democrats nor republicans. We’ll have to see how well, if at all, the current crop of newbies stick to their oaths. If they do, then we have a chance to do this peacefully. That would be much preferred.
First – Aren’t the members of these unions complaining about the loss of medical coverage for their dependents?
Second, in reply to T.T. Thomas – that’s an interesting amendment; you are essentially leaving all foreign commerce up to the market. However, since the artifact-of-exchange, the dollar, is regulated by the federal government, then I don’t see how foreign commerce could move out of its overview. Furthermore, declaring a foreign nation a ‘national security threat’ and tieing it to commerce would rapidly become a political hothouse of intrigue. I suggest this tactic would fail.
Third – I think the Tea Party, the Independents, and the reviving GOP will prevent a Gramsci-socialist take-over of the USA. I admit that our academic institutions contain almost nothing but this rhetoric and I think that the rhetoric should be confronted. The fact that many Americans reject socialism is indicative that the socialists speak ‘to the wind’ and are not accepted by the majority.
The fact that many Americans reject socialism is indicative that the socialists speak ‘to the wind’ and are not accepted by the majority.
This is exactly as you say. The problem is that the history of the twentieth century – and now, this one – has shown us that a relatively small number of individuals can hijack the apparatus of the state and turn it to their ends long enough to slaughter millions and impose a frightful tyranny. Pol Pot’s Cambodia, Hitler’s Germany, Lenin and Stalin’s USSR and Mao’s China are just the most prominent examples. The African continent from the 1950s through the 1990s will offer dozens more of the same sort of examples. Amin, Bokassa, Mobutu, Nyerere, Banda, Mugabe, Kaunda, Kenyatta, Mengistu, Nasser, Nguema and Nkrumah are the only the ones I can remember off the top of my head.
So – the majority of us oppose the concentration camp culture and mentality of 0bama and his ilk, but that doesn’t mean that it matters – to them. Mere opposition has never stopped such monsters. Opposition backed with armed resistance or the real and credible threat of such can and has.
And you can bet that all the posters here will be high on the list to be picked up first.
That’s not going to go the way they think it will.
All the more reason that tomorrow I will be at the gun range honing my skills…already have plenty of ammunition and friends with the same, mostly ex-military or cops!
The fact that many Americans reject socialism is indicative that the socialists speak ‘to the wind’ and are not accepted by the majority.
Well, no the majority of people reject the totality of socialism, but seem to have accepted the sum of its parts.
Remember how Communists used to proselytize the American public.
There was only one “Communist Party”, but there were all sorts of communist-sponsored groups; there were groups that were against racial discrimination, there were groups against poverty, there were groups against sexism, there were groups against “war”, there were groups against poverty, there were groups against fascism and imperialism and colonialism.
In fact, it seems that if there could BE a group around an issue, the commies would patronize a “group” or a “league” or a “guild” about it…and all of these groups were instructed to grow their membership base and advance their narrow causes, all working towards a common goal that was set from elsewhere.
All of these subordinate groups, each with their dogs’ breakfasts of concerns, seemed to be able to agree only at certain times and on certain issues.
When all the pieces fall into place, you have Socialism arrived at from the back end.
Remember that the Russians are master chess players…the Soviets might not be around to see the end-game that they set in motion, but they don’t have to be. Anyone with an appreciation for the game can sit down and play their side, or try to.
Well, no the majority of people reject the totality of socialism, but seem to have accepted the sum of its parts.
This, I think, was true up until recently. As long as the consequences of the ‘long march’ were either not felt or hidden among other events, well… “none dare call it socialism”.
But recent events have exposed both the consequences and the destination of the sort of authoritarian socialism that 0bama and his minders have in store for us. People are waking up to the fact that their lives, their livelihoods and the fate of theri children are now at risk.
We have by now seen ample proof that those with the 0bama regime have no intention of listening to us nor do they respect the founding principles of this country. In fact, they hate both. In the end, the only thing that can persuade them otherwise is the last argument of kings (Ultima ratio regnum).
You are “spot-on” my friend!
The GOP and the masses of generations are indocrinated and accepting of the “parts” though not finally all in their place of permanence.
The Tea Party movement has all the tough rhetoric but supported only by their superficial analytical thinking. Proof in point! They are rallying around solutions of “bean-counters” with a few boxes of bandaids, ignoring the cancer..or root causations that should be the focal point of their movement. Proof in point! They want real solutions but leave all my government benefits that the socialist brought us …ALONE! And the proofs in point pile up!
At this “eleventh-hour” there are NO real solutions that do not carry a high and paniful price…IF anybody is truly serious in restoring the Traditional America.
I even hate the term “solutions”. Solutions to WHAT? Some crap that a marxist made up in the first place. Try getting out of the frigging way.
A. We don’t have many problems. And 95% of the ones we have are artificially created to balkanize the country.
B. The few problems that we are genuinely stuck with (like SS, which, since the bastards spent the trillions ordinary people have paid in, has to continue) are simple to fix. Match the retirement age to longevity, you blithering idiots!
C. Every attempt by the raging, power-mad commissars is intended to cause more problems. Any 8-year old who isn’t brainwashed can see that rationing fuel is an act of insanity!!
D. When the idiot “solutions” aren’t causing other problems, they are lining the pockets of the commissars.
These people have to be shot. Voting them out of office is an act of kindness they don’t deserve.
["These people have to be shot."]
Surely, you say this in jest! That would be the ultimate disclosure of kindness! Giving them a one-way ticket to Cuba and/or Venzuela and Iran would be far more appropriate…would it not?
ETAB….
I have a cpmprehensive blueprint for such an amendment that addresses your and many more questions and concerns but, in this forum I can only be rather superficial.
Re; ["However, since the artifact-of-exchange, the dollar, is regulated by the federal government, then I don’t see how foreign commerce could move out of its overview."]
I think far to many people of the newer generations lack the insight of just how [powerful] a vibrant “non federal government” regulated private sector economy can be. Short of a long dissertation it is impossible to highlight all the relevant issues. People and economies of the private sector can actually be the drivng “force” behind all the answers to the questions for which you posed. Now, it is “special-interest” corrupted federal government and a corrupted Fed that is the driving “force” behind our private sector national economies. That said, the only oversight the federal government should retain in commerce is by legislating criminal and civil tort relief…including the safety standards of domestic and imported goods and services. Everything else [will] take care of itself through the competitive environment of the private sector….including labor and value indexing.
For example. If one State wishes to support labor union practices of “forcing” arbitrary circular inflated values upon goods and services, they are “free to do so, at the risk of being non competitive in the regional, national and foreign marketplaces. Likewise, if some employers wish to infringe on unfair labor practices those laborers will leave them standing high and dry.
Likewise, the Fed has pumped so much currency (and continuing to do so) into the economy that we have had “artifical” economies and currency valuations for more than a couple of decades. This practice would be a very rare occaision should my amendment ever occur. For example. With the federal government and the Fed “driving” the economy and currency we now have Wall Street evaluating companies multiples over book values, and lwegislating and creating “bubble” economies driving inflated values and false economies. This would not be the case with my suggested Amendment.
As I said, there is so much more to this Amendment blueprint than this medium will allow but….it will work and has proven itself long ago…not to mention it is the intent of the Constitution.
Wasn’t something like this part of the purpose of the Free State Project? http://freestateproject.org/
Maybe, just MAYBE…IF the SEIU hadn’t wasted untold millions insuring the democrats control of congress, they would have had the money to insure these children.
The SEIU is playing a dangerous game with their members. Wanting an uprising which they hope, would eventually lead to a single-payer system….
And you are surprised because ………?
The Unions may be suffering but in Obambi’s racist America the Blacks aren’tthey just gave them ANOTHER $ 1,1 BILLION on top of the $1,1 Billion they already got . This is for the 84,000 blacks who benefit from the ‘REPRATIONS’ and ONLY 18,000 Black farmers really exist.
So there are 18,000 black farmers but 84,000 Blacks applied for free money, Obama money, under this bill. Now, something doesn’t add up. All 84,000 got the money but there are only 18,000 farmers. This was a settlement for discrimination against black farmers. Yet 84,000 Blacks got some money, and the something not right here leads all the way to the Obama Oval Orifice. If this did not involve Blacks, this could become the #1 political story of next year because this is corruption right out in front of everybody’s eyes. The left is celebrating today the fact that it found a creative way to pass reparations. That’s what this is. Steve King, Republican from Iowa, said so, and the left is just beside themselves over this. Here’s what he said yesterday afternoon on the House floor.
KING: I’m one of the people that’s actually read the consent decree from Pigford One. It starts out with these words: “Forty acres and a mule.” In truth we have here the modern day version of reparations that are going on.
Well, that just doesn’t sit well with the Democrats and the media. “Reparations.” You know, I have used the term reparations previously to describe other Democrat legislation, and the left just goes bonkers over it. They can’t deal with it, and the reason is for some reason it hits too close to home. What else would you call this? Eighteen thousand Black farmers live but 84,000 Black people getting free money from the Obama stash made up of TAXPAYERS money.
Before Unions spend on nickel on lobbying, they should be required by legislation to fund all their benefits programs including healthcare, disability and pensions.
After that they can begin to spend on political activity.
They should be required to get their member’s permission before spending any of their money on political expenditures of any kind.
…..yeah. and obama should resign for the sake of the Constitution of these (still) sovereign United States of America, but that probably isn’t going to happen either.
This is a good argument for the public option only hope they put that back on the table
I don’t get it. How did this information get released before Sebelius could give them one of the “special exemptions?” Well, I am sure that this hole will be filled shortly.
sebelius is too busy running around with her bazillion doses of swine flue vaccine sneaking up and giving unsuspecting people a little poke in the tush
SEIU, funny as hell. really, truly funny.
I try and tell little beasties like your sensei that the Dems have contempt for them, and will hurt them as much as the Normal People. Poor apes can’t believe it though.
Exactly.
The Bolsheviks had many groups supporting them in Romanov Russia and for years after the benevolent Lenin began the people’s republic.
A lucky few of thos supporters actually survived long enough to be purged by Stalin.
obama could care less about union workers
he is concerned, as far as unions go, that the bosses continue to milk their members dry, ship them to the next phoney demonstration, and maintain the siphon of dollars for dems symbiotic existence
obama would like nothing more than the union rank and file to get all riled up and start whining and moaning and, hopefully, start a little riot here or there…
chaos in the streets is the backdoor for an instant autocratic takeover all in the name of our safety and well-being
This OFTEN ending result by ‘Union’ (what an oxymoron pertaining to this chain of events..) rubes is nothing new.
It has me recall Dennis Miller’s take on ‘Liberalism/Progressivism’ – ‘..resulting with devouring the host from within..’.
I can’t choose who’s more pathetic – the Unions or the people who prop them up/pay into them?
Funny when election time rolls around the unions seem to have plenty of money to donate to certain candidates? The unions take your money and spend it as they see fit to perpeuate themselves. Union dues influences elections . Does not enrich the lives of the workers in the trneches
Well, it’s an opportunity for these union members to demonstrate that they aren’t as stupid as they keep looking with their slavish support for democrats who have kept them under control for decades just by promising free stuff.
I won’t be holding my breath.