The fiasco of the forced resignation of Shirley Sherrod has become one of the major stories of the day. It began when BigGovernment.com released a video given to Andrew Breitbart, which seemed to suggest, as Breitbart wrote, “video evidence of racism coming from a federal appointee and NAACP award recipient and in another clip from the same event a perfect rationalization for why the Tea Party needs to exist.”
What irked Breitbart — correctly — was that the Tea Party was being branded as racist by the NAACP and other liberal media outlets. As we have now learned, the original video handed to Breitbart included only part of the Sherrod speech. It was best explained by Roger Mackey in a New York Times blog:
Ms. Sherrod and her supporters said the edited clip was misleading because the excerpts were taken from a longer story she told about overcoming prejudice and learning, from working with this white farmer, that her job was to help poor people regardless of their race. After the N.A.A.C.P. reviewed a longer tape of the speech (embedded at the top of this post), the group said in a statement posted on its Web site, “we have come to the conclusion we were snookered by Fox News and Tea Party Activist Andrew Breitbart,” the conservative blogger who drew attention to the speech.
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The NAACP then backed down, releasing a statement indicating that after reviewing her entire speech and listening to the testimony of white farmers whom Sherrod actually helped, “the fact is Ms. Sherrod did help the white farmers mentioned in her speech. They personally credit her with helping to save their family farm. Moreover, this incident and the lesson it prompted occurred more than 20 years before she went to work for U.S.D.A.”
Sherrod, in her full speech, made it clear that what she was trying to convey was a change in her perspective, from seeing things only through the prism of race, when it was a matter of poor people of all colors needing help that was being denied them. She learned when “it was revealed to me that it’s about poor versus those that have and not so much – it is about white and black but, it opened my eyes because I took him to one of his own and I put him in his hands and felt, O.K., I’ve done my job.” The white farmer then had his farm foreclosed.
The white lawyer Sherrod had sent him to did not help stop the foreclosure, but told the farmer to let the farm go. At that point, Sherrod sprung to his defense and went on to help him save his farm. From this experience she learned “it’s really about those who have versus those who don’t … And it made me realize then that I needed to work to help poor people, those who don’t have access the way others have.”
After finally hearing her story, U.S. Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack promised to review the decision asking for her resignation. But there is more. On CNN, Sherrod told the story of how Undersecretary of Agriculture Cheryl Cook called her three times as she was driving to clients in Athens, Georgia, a three and a half hour car drive. “They asked me to resign, and in fact they harassed me as I was driving back to the state office from West Point, Georgia, yesterday,” she said. The last call “asked me to pull to the side of the road and do it [resign],” she said. The undersecretary told her that the White House wanted her to resign, because “you’re going to be on Glenn Beck tonight.”
The irony is that Glenn Beck did not show the video on his program at all that day. On the following day’s program, Beck came on the air — before the full video of Sherrod’s entire March speech had been made available by Breitbart and by the NAACP — and told his program’s viewers that Sherrod “shouldn’t have been fired.” Why, Beck asked, would they force a resignation based on a 24-year-old incident that might have been “taken entirely out of context”?
yo ron next you can go after reuters no;
“Conservatives had linked the tape to the NAACP asking the conservative “Tea Party” political movement to denounce racism by some of its members. Images such as Obama with a bone through his nose and the White House with a lawn full of watermelons are often displayed at Tea Party rallies.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE66K6JN20100721
you limp wristed ex proggs need to get with the program
Not sure who owes who an apology. Clearly Sherrod was an unwitting pawn – the victim of ridiculous contemporary politics. The correct people to blame is anyone who fell for it without demanding to know the context. And when you fall for it *and* you hold a respected position in the public media or powerful bureaucracy your reactions have a consequence. I hope all the knee-jerk reactionaries learned a lesson and Sherrod is able to slide back into anon.
If only those fooled by the edited tape should apologize, then Breithbart tops the list of those fooled. Otherwise he;s just a liar and that is worse. We as a culture need to stop accepting lies as part of the political process.
The left commits deliberate, planned — and now from Journolist — we know — conspired — slanders as a matter of course, and nobody nobody nobody from their ranks demands apologies from their own. Just as one of many — look at what they did to Sarah Palin. Did you hear clamouring from the left for apologies when they wrote that her child was actually her daughter’s — and worse.
Do we hear clamouring for apologies from their own ranks
when anyone who disagrees with Obama’s policies — or any conservative or republican for that matter — is branded and slandered as a racist?
Just have a look at the Reuters Article linked by #1 New above. A prime example of deceit. And it quotes Krugman as saying that anything at all posted by the right should be automatically considered false. Oh, they’re so glowing because they think they “gotcha” one — one! While all of their false ones — including that very article — are accepted as okay.
Andrew Breitbart is fighting a tough, hard, frustrating battle against leftists and the leftist media tool that uses the dirtiest, filthiest, most deceitful tactics to batter the right and idiotize the American public into following along like fools.
On very, very rare occasions, the leftist media may print a retraction — never an apology! Why are you demanding more from Breitbart? Apologize to Us? I thank the stars every day that he exists! And I am so sorry that he has to endure the hammering he’s getting plus beratement from those he fights for!
It reminds me of that cartoon where there are two guys drawing cartoons. No.1 is labeled “Jew” with hooked nose, warts, razor teeth and tongue dripping blood, bulging eyes — and No.2, a simple picture of Moh with a turban, smiling. No.1 turns to No.2 and says “Do you know how offensive that is?”
The NAACP wrongfully “denounced” the Tea Party as racist. Congressmen lied. Where are the voices on the left demanding apologies from them — their wrongdoers?
Why are so many on the right beating their breasts and demanding apologies from one of their own for what the left does every day?
Just look at the amount of coverage this is getting — and the outrage! While the left does the same every day and it’s shrugged off as a nothing.
A good part of why the West might lose in the War we are fighting, is the commitment and desire to be so free from guilt — so perfect — so FAIR — to SHOW that we are so FAIR so they’ll like and “respect” us — while the enemy just wants to win and doesn’t give a damn about FAIR — they laugh at our absurdity.
It seems the Right has the same disease while the left doesn’t give a damn and is laughing. (… when it comes to their own countrymen, that is. They don’t seem to “get” it that they are being laughed at in turn when they play the fool and worry so much about FAIRNESS when it comes to our foreign enemies.)
hey ron how’s come your not looking at this angle?
“RDLN Graduate and Board Vice Chair Shirley Sherrod was appointed Georgia Director for Rural Development by Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack on July 25. Only days earlier, she learned that New Communities, a group she founded with her husband and other families (see below) has won a thirteen million dollar settlement in the minority farmers law suit Pigford vs Vilsack.”
http://www.ruraldevelopment.org/shirleydirector.html
Right on, ‘newrouter’;
I’ve been trying to spread this tidbit also. This lowly government worker, and her husband, has sued her way into a massive retirement plan at taxpayer expense.
This woman has implemented Obama’s dream before Obama dreamt it.
Looks to me that an indictment for conflicts and/or embezzlement should come forth.
More details of the ‘Pigford Case’ can be researched @:
http://www.pigfordmonitor.org/
newrouter, Cybergeezer –
The Pigford lawsuit story is interesting but it has nothing to do with Breitbart’s (I’m putting this politely) error. If there is a story out there about Sherrod’s receiving money from a lawsuit against USDA, perhaps that should be written. She may be no saint. But Breitbart wasn’t exploring that issue. He screwed up massively and he should admit it. Watching him try to wriggle out of his responsibility in this is not only embarrassing but it makes me doubt I can ever trust him again.
Ron is right. Breitbart should apologize for intentionally or inadvertently showing an incomplete tape. His credibility, already under constant attack from the left, can only be helped if he will “Man Up” and give an apology and explanation.
He already made an explanation when he posted the video, and that explanation make it clear no apologies are appropriate.
The administration fired Sherrod, not Breitbart.
Tom Vilsack was in such a hurry to fall on his sword that Obama didn’t get a chance to throw Shirley under the bus. And that makes Tom a racist, a liar a fool, or something worse.
And Eric the Holder said that the American People were a bunch of cowards. And Obama said that he would apologize to other countries for the sins of those cowards who resided in the country of which he was President and Commander in Chief.
So the white cowards began to talk and the black cowards talked also. And General Holder was then happy.
And Barack the Messiah was also happy.
And the people laughed and cheered and had great delight at the spectacle. Other than that, it was just another great day in the land of La La, in the year of 2010.
And all of the bad stuff was George Bush’s fault. Because the One pronounced it so.
(My earlier note on this seems to have been “lost”. I’ll try again.)
Apologize? Not so sure about that. As others here have noted, Breitbart isn’t responsible for her firing. He’s a journalist. He had a tape that told a story in the context of the NAACP’s racialist slander of the Tea Party movement’s members. He went with his gut and his story. She ended up as collateral damage. Like it or not, right or wrong, Breitbart’s actions seem in the mainstream of journalist practice for the past, oh, millennium or two. Collateral damage resulting from the actions of journalists is neither rare nor new. There’s a reason why the 1981 movie “Absence of Malice” was popular.
Now, I’m somewhat amused to see Dr. Radosh demanding an apology from Breitbart when he never, to my knowledge, publicly demanded one from Ron Rosenbaum who libeled as racists whole swaths of society from this site (PJM) to which he is himself a contributor. Strange that.
whatever happened to Rosenbaum? He was posting every other day for a long time and then one day he was gone. I have emailed Pajamas and in talkbacks have asked Ron and Roger. No luck.
Given their relationship over the years, you shouldn’t expect either to address Rosenbaum’s departure in a public forum.
Guess he finally realized no one was very interested in following the progress of his personality disorder centered on hysterical obsession with the Tea Party.
Oh, right. One more thing . . .
In retrospect, Dr. Radosh, don’t you think it a teeny bit presumptuous to suggest in your title that Breitbart owes “us” an apology? Clearly, by your writing, you feel he owe an apology to you and to Ms. Sherrod. But I don’t recall you being appointed a spokesman for everyone else.
Apologize? At first, yeah, I thought so as well. But then I heard the rest of the speech and not only is it tinged (actually dripping) with racism but class warfare as well. Don’t forget that this speech took care at the height of the health care debate and protest rallies.
And let’s not forget, it was the NAACP that overtly has been attacking the Tea Party movement since the beginning, let alone grievance-mongering for the past 40 years! Listen to any of Julian Bond’s speeches and it’s filled with rabid racist ravings.
So after all this, Sherrod should have been fired a long time ago.
SO IF IT’S ALL ABOUT CONTEXT, THEN LISTEN TO THE ENTIRE SPEECH AND BREITBART WAS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. That’s why the regime threw her under bus, not because they disagree with her, but because they feared the entire tape – which they had seen and which the NAACP OWNED – would come out.
LET THE NAACP CONDEMN FARRAKHAN FIRST.
You’re are exactly right…every single word of it.
You are a racist. No matter what that is your mind set. Nothing will change you.
If you viewed the entire speech and still believe she is a racist you are blind deaf and dumb.
I will not go any further because it will be a waste of energy and non productive.
As a white native of Mississippi raised by staunch segregationists during the last years of the (offcial) Jim Crow era, I continue to find it miraculous and humbling that more Americans of African heritage aren’t angrier and more vengeful than they are. If Ms. Sherrod’s comments indicate that she’s not quite as free of anger as she says or thinks she is now, well, I am still impressed with and heartened by her story. I know way too many white people who haven’t grown nearly as much.
Ben, you sound like you have a good heart — and Shirley’s story about her dad is devastating.
But it was 40 years ago. Things have changed.
How long will it be okay for Shirley to be angry and “vengeful?” She has, after all, done well in her life.
I grew up in an environment where my “crowd” was of every race, religion and flavor one could imagine. If we had disagreements, it had zilch to do with race or creed.
This is what’s happening now.
It’s time Shirley and the NAACP take a look at their community and work on fixing it’s problems, most of which have to do with their leaders using them to gain personal power via victimization stances rather than self-improvement — stop blaming the rest of us for their problems and stop falsely accusing ME of being a racist!
Shirley Sharrod may have been telling a story of redemption (of sorts — because she still said it’s still about black and white), but she is no innocent of racism — clearly from the way she accused everyone who is not a leftist of being racist.
BUT the audience — before they heard the end of the story — you can hear them LAUGHING and enjoying the part of the story where she said she wouldn’t help the farmer much because he was white. That’s the NAACP!
The story — Breitbart’s intention — was about the NAACP — not Shirley. She was hurt by the same NAACP, who knew very well what goes on at their meetings, and naturally assumed it was true because it’s an every-day occurrence there.
They assumed she was guilty because racist talk is normal at their meetings. That’s why they didn’t check the video! They assumed they were caught because — it’s a case of how many robberies the thief is guilty of and got away with — when he mistakenly takes the blame for the one he didn’t commit.
Andrew was just doing his job — He was not wrong about the NAACP’s racism.
Shirley deserves an apology from the USDA and the NAACP.
When the NAACP apologizes to Andrew Breitbart, the Tea Party, Fox News and the rest of us conservatives and libertarians, is when this will be over.
Andrew can say he’s sorry that Shirley got hurt inadvertently for the one time that she was not talking racist B-S!
Shirley Sharrod may have been telling a story of redemption (of sorts — because she still said it’s still a story of black and white), but she is no innocent of racism — clearly from the way she accused everyone who is not a leftist of being racist.
BUT the audience — before they heard the end of the story — you can hear them laughing and enjoying the part of the story where she said she wouldn’t help the farmer much because he was white. That’s the NAACP!
The story — Breitbart’s intention — was about the NAACP — not Shirley. She was hurt by the same NAACP, who knew very well what goes on at their meetings, and naturally assumed it was true because it’s an every-day occurrence there.
They assumed she was guilty because racist talk is normal at their meetings. That’s why they didn’t check the video! They assumed they were caught because — it’s a case of how many robberies the thief is guilty of and got away with — when he gets the blame for the one he didn’t commit.
Andrew was just doing his job — He was not wrong about the NAACP’s racism.
Shirley deserves an apology from the USDA and the NAACP.
When the NAACP apologizes to Andrew Breitbart, the Tea Party, Fox News and the rest of us conservatives and libertarians, is when this will be over.
Andrew can say he’s sorry that Shirley got hurt inadvertently for the one time that she was not talking racist B-S!
Absolutely agree with this entire article. I am in complete sympathy with with Breitbart’s intentions, but his methods in this case were completely heinous. A woman – one who is evidently much more honest and honorable about her racial attitudes than Breitbart’s actual NAACP targets – lost her job because of his little prank. How would he feel if some total stranger just casually reached out and fucked up his entire life over some media pissing contest he wasn’t even involved in? Mr. Breitbart should call or meet with Ms. Sherrod personally and apologize for his part in her firing. And next time he pulls a stunt like this, he should ask himself about possible collateral damage. “Breaking a few eggs” is, and should remain, a leftist philosophy.
There’s nothing even slightly objectionable about Breitbart’s method. There is no evidence he edited the film.
If you have evidence he–or anyone–has more of the film which exonerates the NAACP attendees of applauding Sherrod’s racism…and they had no testimony from yet at that point to absolve her..then share that evidence.
Please.
Without that, you have no point.
And neither much does Mr. Radosh.
Mrs. Sherrod should simply chalk up her brief brush with infamy as being karma for her former attitudes.
There’s nothing even slightly objectionable about Breitbart’s method. There is no evidence he edited the film.
The video Breitbart showed was three minutes long.
The original was forty minute long, or so. Where did the missing thirty-seven minutes go? They were evidently trimmed out.
Do you know what such trimming is called, in the business? It’s called editing.
As a complete idiot, you do neither Breitbart nor the discussion any favors, sir.
“How would he feel if some total stranger just casually reached out and fucked up his entire life over some media pissing contest he wasn’t even involved in?”
You mean like the “call them racists” strategy espoused in journolist? Or the NAACP accusing the tea party movement of racism without evidence?
Steve:
Please express your views without expletives…In any case it is assumed you only described yourself; in fact from the way you write, not your point of view, you clearly described yourself.
Those are Bugs words not mine.
Bugs- try commenting without the use of F***ed. It sounds sooo lefty. We are intelligent enough on this sight to express ourselves without being vulgar.
Trigeek: “Bugs- try commenting without the use of F***ed. It sounds sooo lefty. We are intelligent enough on this sight to express ourselves without being vulgar.”
…but not intelligent enough to know the correct spelling of “site”, apparently.
“site”
The word is “site”.
Dear panty waists, this is war. Sherrod is a crooked political animal and she is fair game. Grow some balls.
Sorry. Not persuasive.
Breitbart was not the one with the authority to force Sherrod’s resignation. There was nothing “doctored” about the video excerpt that was originally posted. That there was more to the story was NOT something Sherrod’s audience could possibly have known as they cheered her for sending the white farmer to “one of his own”. Sorry – that’s RACISM, straight up and the “moral” of her self-congratulatory little anecdote is so obvious to any serious, thinking person as to be irrelevant.
NAACP jumped the gun here. They clearly did so to direct attention AWAY from the NAACP members’ reaction to Sherrod’s statements in the video, just as Breitbart has consistently pointed out. They could easily have validated the context of the video excerpt before issuing their knee-jerk statements, but they didn’t. They look like idiots now. Pretending they were “snookered” is the lamest of excuses.
The White House also jumped the gun here, big time, and they know it. Their reason for doing so was also clear: they can’t afford to have Americans’ attention focused on their own institutionalized racism – codified in the recent legislation that forms their new affirmative action wealth redistribution program – going into an election cycle. They look like idiots now as well.
BigGovernment.com released a video given to Andrew Breitbart, which seemed to suggest, as Breitbart wrote, “video evidence of racism coming from a federal appointee and NAACP ……
Now what would the result have been had Breitbart sat on the portion of video released waiting for the context to appear?
Most probably you would not be writing about it.
What if that bit of video was complete with no context to exonerate Shirley Sherrod of the charge of racism?
He would not have triggered the exposure of the NAACP and Administration’s knee jerk reactions (another beer summit?) and opened the eyes of some of the electorate to the hypocritical shenanigans being played out.
It would not have come out on Fox and the Tea Partiers would be the only racists in America.
A journalist can only find out so much until he can get the party he is interested in to expose more.
I have just watched the tape, and what I have not seen reported is her astonishing account of the origin of slavery in colonial America. While appearing to be a cheerleader in the tradition of Martin Luther King, Jr., she blames wealthy white people for inventing slavery to squash the black-white unity that existed as black and white indentured servants married each other. This is amazing.
Study what happened to the NAACP as it moved away from integrationism to black nationalism. She is a spokesperson for reparations, in this case, encouragement to black entrepreneurs funded by the state. Moreover, she stated clearly that she had no use for Republicans, and hopes for a second black president. This contradicts the theme of her talk: black-white unity in the encouragement of upward mobility into small businesses and the professions. She did not have to, but did, include horror stories of her father’s murder and the Klan cross-burning on her lawn. We don’t know enough of her personal and political history to make conclusive judgments, but my antennae are quivering.
Sorry. Not at all persuasive. Not. Even. Close.
Breitbart fired NO ONE. Sherrod said what she said. Stop letting the lefties change the subject – which was that the NAACP not only tolerated but cheered racism against whites. Hypocrites.
And aren’t you happy that a Shirley Sherrod isn’t “struggling to find her common humanity with you” over the details of your health care?
Oh….wait!
I am really annoyed about the firing of Shirley Sherrod. I am annoyed because it’s the worst example to date of President Obama and officials in his adminstration foolishly trying to head off or minimize the slur-icanes generated by far-right media stars such as Limbaugh, Beck and, oh yeah, Breitbart, the blogger who got this ugly storm blowing. Should Breitbart apologize? Absolutely, though it’s highly questionable a show of humility from him would mean much at this point. If he was “snookered,” it’s only because he was so ready to believe the abbreviated clip was true. And that, in turn, reveals him to be not a journalist at all but a propagandist.
Obama and about two dozens members of his adminstration, at last count, have apologized to Sherrod, as well they should. But what they really need to do is stop worrying about what Rush or Glenn or Breitbart or anybody else in the right-wing media universe thinks or is going to say.
Speaking of that, you know what’s really funny? When Beck did not, as Sherrod’s bosses feared, show the “racist” clip (luck of his taping time, most likely, not restraint) and instead came back with an attack on Obama’s over-reaction, he was saying, in effect, “How dare you pay attention to my hysterical screeds?”
For once, I would agree with him.
I agree that an apology is in order. I think Breitbart, admittedly with incomplete information, projected his own experiences onto a situation quite different. He didn’t understand her or where she was coming from.
Mr. Radosh:
I’m afraid that you seem to have entirely missed Mr. Breitbart’s point, along with a host of others on both sides of the political divide.
Now usually I find you to be pretty reasonable, but in this instance you’re doubling down on stupid.
Look, here is what Breitbart wrote in his copy releasing the video:
“Sherrod’s racist tale is received by the NAACP audience with nodding approval and murmurs of recognition and agreement. Hardly the behavior of the group now holding itself up as the supreme judge of another groups’ racial tolerance.”
In fact, Breitbart specifically mentions that the excerpt he’s posting was part of a tale of Sherrod’s voyage of self-discovery:
“In the first video, Sherrod describes how she racially discriminates against a white farmer. She describes how she is torn over how much she will choose to help him. And, she admits that she doesn’t do everything she can for him, because he is white. Eventually, her basic humanity informs that this white man is poor and needs help. But she decides that he should get help from “one of his own kind”. She refers him to a white lawyer.”
Oh heck…here’s the link to what Breitbart wrote. I very strongly suggest that you read it first before demanding an apology of Breitbart:
http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2010/07/19/video-proof-the-naacp-awards-racism2010/
The point of his releasing this video was the reaction of the NAACP audience to Sherrod’s tale of racially discriminating against a White man.
The anecdote was vital in contextualizing what the audience was approving of and clapping for.
Now the NAACP’s racist attitudes being the target is what Breitbart wrote on Monday, and that is what he said on “Hannity” show Tuesday night, and apparently that is what he is STILL saying today.
You have allowed yourself to be bamboozled by those who have misdirected this into being about Shirley Sherrod, to benefit the NAACP’s own cheering of racist behavior.
Seriously Mr. Radosh, I usually find you to be a pretty sharp cookie, but you’ve stepped into a pile of moonbat shine-ola with this one.
Breitbart doesn’t owe anyone an apology. The only apologies owed should be from the dullards who refuse to get what he’s been saying…even after being told and hopefully reading and listening for themselves what he asserts…to him.
I completely agree. The video shows what Breitbart intended to show–the casual and approving acceptance of racism against whites by the body of NAACP attendees.
The clumsy reaction of the administration to the video is what the administration needs to apologize for.
Not Breitbart.
I initially thought Breitbart was spinning this story last night on Fox News, but after reading his original article on the subject that you provided, it is rather obvious that his intent was always to show the reaction of the NAACP audience to racist remarks. Fox News probably should have stayed away from this story until they had better information. Thankfully, Glenn did not run with this story on monday or it would have been a larger embarrassment for Fox News.
It would appear the media has gotten this story wrong from start to finish.
Pretty pathetic, all around.
I believe Breitbart is one of the very few first rate journalist who deserves front page center every day. He is competent in the issues he covers, which by itself puts him in an elite group of very few people…Most pretty boys/girls parading as journalist have no background on the issues they cover…and they come off as complete fools not even competent to ask relevant questions…
all of that copy he wrote was added after the video was found to be wildly out of context. none of the copy on that page existed on 7/19 when he released the video.
this explanation is post-facto and is a sad attempt to cover his mistake.
Do you have a single scintilla of proof to back up your assertion that Andrew Breitbart has a method of rewriting history by changing the date of an internet posting?
And doubtless, he has contrived to change the timestamps of all the comments and trackbacks referencing the post that you claim to be his after-the-fact revision.
“this explanation is post-facto and is a sad attempt to cover his mistake.” -says you.
You’d better post some incontrovertible evidence or be known as a lying sack of sh!t.
I say “POOF!”
And it is now time for you to disappear…
So, Sherrod’s NAACP audience initially applauded her discriminatory impulse, and that’s what we should be irate about. Well, dang. How dare they! I mean, it’s not like they have any reason to be bitter or angry. It’s not like black Americans have ever suffered at the hands of white Americans. No, it’s white folks who’ve been the victims for decades, centuries.
Lord have mercy.
Speaking again as a white Southerner born while Jim Crow was still in force, I say, “Get some perspective, people, and respect the miracle that our fellow Americans who are black are not angrier than they are. I consider this show of forgiveness — which I see daily from my friends and from complete strangers — proof of God’s existence and grace.”
Sorry bubba, but the circuitry behind the “Collective Race Guilt” button you’re pushing has been disconnected.
So African Americans had it bad in the USA in the past.
So what?
How long is THAT excuse supposed to stay “fresh”, and for how much misbehavior?
Hey, I had a sister mugged by a Black punk, what “perspective” would you afford me were I to try using that as an excuse for blatantly racist discriminnatory behavior?
None whatsoever.
And that’s how it should be.
Now stop treating your fellow Americans with black skin as though they are “special” children that need some adult honkie keeper to make excuses for.
They’re free adult citizens and can damned well take the lumps of responsibility for their own character faults.
The same as the rest of us.
How long do black Americans get the right to remain angry? Well, let’s see. Slavery lasted a couple hundred years, Jim Crow another 100. And the dysfunction that massive, offical racism fostered is still in place in many places, south and north. It’s absurd to suggest that recognizing this hideous part of our history equates with treating black Americans like children. So, without in any way condoning physical attacks on white people or verbal attacks or reverse discrimination or anything like that, I would say that I can easily understand why black Americans, including some of my friends, might express a little residual resentment now and then. And while I can certainly udnerstand your anger at what that “punk” did (and hope that he paid for his crime), I don’t think the violent actions of an individual can be used to erase a profound, prolonged historic injustice.
Your ripste is so lame on so many levels that it’s really hard to decide where to begin.
So I’ll just skip to your conclusion:
“I don’t think the violent actions of an individual can be used to erase a profound, prolonged historic injustice.”
Why not, since you apparently feel that some general prolonged historic injustice is perfectly sufficient to excuse the specific misconduct of an individual, (as long as that individual has black skin, that is).
You’ve been programmed into what you’ve been told is anti-bigotry so badly that you’re becoming a bigot from the other direction.
If we’re to judge people by the content of their character and not the color of their skin, then the color of their skin is no excuse for their deficiency of character.
That there’s Truth, neighbor, if you’ve the moral honesty to hear it.
My problem with this is you like the media before claimed to have “rushed to judged” have also rushed to judgment. This person admits she “was” a racist. This person has recently made racist and borderline racist remarks about bush, the tea party, FOX news and in general.
You claim that Breitbart was “clearly irresponsible” its really not clearly at all. They had a video clip. They probably tried to find more however weren’t able to expect by asking the NAACP for the video… if breitbart asked for the complete video from them what do you think would happen? Think about that. How many countless videos get posted on the internet where the small clip is “in context”. However many times do CNN, MSNBC, etc… must we remember the evil “white racist” that had a m-4 at an obama rally… a clearly altered and heavily edited piece written solely for propaganda… that does not appear at the moment to be the case.
This women got treated like a white male republican maybe she will learn from it… o wait she hasn’t with just made statements like the one about foxnews… so defending seems a bit retarded. The teachable moment here is that racists like the NAACP and obama has created a hyper racist environment of propaganda where they used this to attack anyone… now suddenly its gotten out of they’re control and it starting to work against them…. boo fricking who. They caused this to happen and have been pushing it for years. So they get twisted up in they’re own game and a former(may still be racist) get fired… once again if they had been a white male republican they would have kept him fired and covered over the issue brushed it off… what you really should write about is how this “mistake” and “treatment” of a former democrat racist is treated vs accused republicans who didn’t say anything racist and never were…
Speaking of editing. The video that the racist Naacp allows to be viewed is itself edited at minute 21:00.
Hmnn.. wonder what those people(to paraphrase Sherrod) do not want you to see?
“The teachable moment here is that racists like the NAACP and obama has created a hyper racist environment of propaganda where they used this to attack anyone… now suddenly its gotten out of they’re control and it starting to work against them….”
Well, when you use race for bait, don’t be surprised when you find that the tackle you had sized for a striper now has a Great White Shark on the hook.
I’ll, agree with you radoch, I’ll agree with you when Trent Lotts are no longer subject to the racist pillorying for far less than what Shirley a racist Sherrod has suffered justice for. And Trent suffered at the very hands of racists like Sherrod and the NAACP.
Nope turn about is fair play. The bullies just got punched in the mouth with the same stuff they use daily. Look at how much these vermin are at a lose. Shirley a racist Sherrod now knows what it is like to be a white man when the racist Naacp comes a callin’.
I for one don’t care what a.. to paraphrase the NAACP, “What a house honky like you” has to say when grabbing your ankles for your masters pleasure.
I just have one thing to say: Trent Lott. It didn’t matter that Mr. Lott was taken completely out of context. It didn’t matter that he was just trying to be kind to an old man. All that mattered was that he was nailed to the wall. The left has been doing this kind of thing for decades with no consequences. Their causes are always so righteous and their motives so pure that they are above reproach and the rest of us are just supposed to bend over and take it. Those days are over.
I guess one can never assume the ending to the story until it’s told…
So – one question: is Breitbart supposed to ‘apologize’ for getting Sherrod a promotion? Or maybe she should be thanking HIM.
We should ALL be thanking Breitbart, because he has the guts to take this fight to the people WHO ARE DESTROYING THIS REPUBLIC.
If only PJM did half as well…
“So – one question: is Breitbart supposed to ‘apologize’ for getting Sherrod a promotion? Or maybe she should be thanking HIM.’
Now I don’t care what color you are…that there’s some funny, funny stuff!
Mr. Radosh, you clearly miss the point here and owe Mr. Breitbart an apology for repeating false information.
Mr. Breitbart did not demand or even ask for the resignation of Mrs. Sherrod. The video was of a speech Mrs. Sherrod gave in accepting an award from a local NAACP organization. The speech was to a local NAACP organization. The video clearly shows that Mrs. Sherrod initially reponded to the white farmer based on race. Those remarks were widely applauded by the NAACP audience.
It does not matter that Mrs. Sherrod later reconsidered her initial thinking and helped the farmer after “his own kind” let him down.
The main point was that NAACP members applauded an overt act of racism. Hence the NAACP has no moral legitimacy in calling the Tea Party racist, espcially since they have no vidoe proof of anything.
The NAACP and the Obama Administration would gladly make this all about Mrs. Sherrod. Mr. Breitbart did not. I would not be surprised if the firing was done intentionally to make the incident about her rather than the NAACP. Is it not striking that the NAACP and Mr. Obama would once again freely trash a minority to better themselves? The NAACP did so without even viewing the complete video that it had in its archives.
Why do you want Mr. Breitbart to apologize to Mrs. Sherrod, when the action to fire her came from the Obama Administration, supported by the NAACP? Why do you blame him for the actions of others?
Mr. Radosh, I would also add that the original video shown by Mr. Brietbart included the change-of-heart remarks that Mrs. Sherrod made. The MSM is erroneously reporting otherwise. Please do not buy into or support their deception. Nor should you give crediance to Sheepherd Smith and his claim that Big Government is discredited or has been discredited. Where is the proof that they have done anything to discredit themselves?
Could you back up that with a link. I’d love to see that in fact Breitbart had and played the whole thing, which if true is something that has made it out yet.
The original post and video clips are at http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2010/07/19/video-proof-the-naacp-awards-racism2010/ . Clip one contains her admission that she realized it was not about race but about the have v. the have nots. She then backtracked to say it was a white v. black.
Thank you, sir.
People are still not getting it.
What was the final outcome and intent of Sherrod’s speech?
What is the final outcome of speeches that are held at Tea Party rallies?
Did she incite them or through her persuasive story challenge them and make them think about the way they look at things?
The NAACP is NOT like the tea partiers because the tea partiers don’t invite people to talk who may have thoughtful views on an issue.
Many tea-partiers ARE racist.
Do you see people at the NAACP holding up racist and signs with phrases that are lies?
Each individual is responsible for the message that they send.
Sitting idly by while people in your ‘party’ do things that you don’t feel represent you is condoning what they are doing.
Why do so many racist people feel comfortable in the Tea Party?
Because they only have one agenda. Hate.
(how do I know this? because I don’t see ANYONE standing up to those embarrassingly racist people)
By the numbers…
- People are still not getting it.
Starting with you.
- What was the final outcome and intent of Sherrod’s speech?
At this time it appears that the final outcome will be that she gets a promotion. For what? For being mistreated by Obama and his minions.
- What is the final outcome of speeches that are held at Tea Party rallies?
At this time it appears that the outcome – at least this November – will be a wholesale rejection of the Democrats’ socialist agenda to destroy this Republic.
- Did she incite them or through her persuasive story challenge them and make them think about the way they look at things?
Remember that part about not getting it? Yeah. You don’t. This isn’t about what she made them think. This is about their reaction to what she said.
- The NAACP is NOT like the tea partiers because the tea partiers don’t invite people to talk who may have thoughtful views on an issue.
Really? And how many TP events have you attended, that you’re so confident in making this sweeping generalization?
- Many tea-partiers ARE racist.
According to whom? You? NBC? CBS? JournOList? Evidence? Repeating this lie over and over won’t make it a reality.
- Do you see people at the NAACP holding up racist and signs with phrases that are lies?
Like what? Or are you implying that this sort of thing happens at TP events? Evidence?
- Each individual is responsible for the message that they send.
Obama and Ben Jealous are learning this lesson as we ‘speak’.
- Sitting idly by while people in your ‘party’ do things that you don’t feel represent you is condoning what they are doing.
This would be why so many of BHO’s former supporters are abandoning him, and why his approval rating has dropped over 30% since his inauguration.
- Why do so many racist people feel comfortable in the Tea Party?
Again – evidence??
- Because they only have one agenda. Hate.
The Tea Party agenda is the restoration of this Republic, a reduction in the overbloated size of the federal government, fiscal discipline, a balanced budget and an END to racial discrimination via the very thing this administration is doing: institutionalizing racism by passing legislation that creates an affirmative action wealth redistribution program. If this is how you define “Hate”, then you need to take a breath, get an education, and get your head screwed on straight.
- (how do I know this?
You don’t. And you haven’t provided any evidence that there are any “racists” in the TP.
Some proof for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWbmEUIQOCQ&feature=channel
I have seen actual coverage of Tea Parties and the signs were similar to these.
I think you need to watch the actual video that Breitbart didn’t take the time to watch before he submitted it.
She is an amazing and inspirational speaker.
- Some proof for you:
What exactly do you think this collection of cherry-picked signs “proves”? That people are pissed? Yes, they are. Are a few of them responding in kind to BHO’s and The Left Wing Media’s incessant accusations of racism? Yes, they are. This doesn’t make the Tea Party racist any more than the all-white Journolist or the all-white lineup at MSNBC.
- I think you need to watch the actual video that Breitbart didn’t take the time to watch …
No, YOU need to go READ the article Breitbart wrote where he originally posted the video. Sherrod was NOT the reason he posted it. The NAACCCP’s REACTION to to the racist portion of her commentary was the reason:
The NAACCCP has been calling the Tea Party racist – with the willing help of The Left Wing Media and no evidence whatsoever – for months. Yet here we have documented evidence of the NAACCCP’s own racism, which makes them a bunch of idiots and hypocrites.
What’s worse is this: the NAACCCP DID have access to the full length video you’re whining about. THEY were the ones who couldn’t be bothered to watch it in full before releasing their knee-jerk response. Same goes for Obama’s Keystone Kops “administration”, which is now offering Sherrod a PROMOTION.
Try to keep up.
It’s obvious that you still haven’t even watched the full video.
Come back when you actually want to know the truth.
It’s absolutely sick that people like Breitbart totally distort the message of her speech to incite more hate in this world.
It’s very sad that there are people who just don’t really care about the truth.
If you actually watch the original video you will see that the applause was given at appropriate times because her speech was not a racist speech.
She kept saying that she stands up for the poor, no matter what color they are.
The least the rest of us can do is stand up for the truth.
(But there are those that when the truth is in conflict with what they ‘want to believe’, they are unable to accept it.
and that’s another sad thing
- What exactly do you think this collection of cherry-picked signs “proves”? That people are pissed? Yes, they are. Are a few of them responding in kind to BHO’s and The Left Wing Media’s incessant accusations of racism? Yes, they are. This doesn’t make the Tea Party racist any more than the all-white Journolist or the all-white lineup at MSNBC.
No, it proves that there are racist elements in the Tea Party movement. But that’s not news. Neither is the claim that people in the Tea Party are pissed. What would be news is a coherent idea about what they are pissed about, and reasoning behind it. Here’s your chance to sort that out for everyone here.
Why do you cling to the ‘responding in kind’ argument for why something is justified? By that rationale, you wouldn’t say boo if Japan dropped two nuclear bombs on the US. Fair is fair, right?
- The NAACCCP has been calling the Tea Party racist – with the willing help of The Left Wing Media and no evidence whatsoever – for months. Yet here we have documented evidence of the NAACCCP’s own racism, which makes them a bunch of idiots and hypocrites.
Not entirely true. They actually said that ‘elements’ of the Tea Party are racist, which is true. However, I personally think that was foolish, if not downright stupid. Elements of practically any fringe movement has racists, or classists, or whatever -ists you would like.
BTW, ad hominem attacks? Not cool. As soon as you resort to them you show you have no interest in actually debating the issues. If your argument won’t stand up on it’s own merit, perhaps you should rethink it or come up with a different argument.
@melody:
-It’s obvious that you still haven’t even watched the full video.
Based on what? The fact that I know the full extent of what she said and YOU CLEARLY DON’T?? Go watch it yourself.
- Breitbart totally distort the message of her speech …
He didn’t distort anything. He posted a video showing her speaking and the NAACCCP members reacting. That is the reality: by definition (as has been pointed out elsewhere), the NAACCCP is a RACIST organization formed to benefit ONE race. The point of showing the video was to demonstrate how their attacks against the Tea Party – just like yours – are meritless.
- She kept saying that she stands up for the poor, …
Ah, so she’s a wealth-redistributing Marxist, eh? Sorry, you’re not helping your case here.
@Canatheist:
- it proves that there are racist elements in the Tea Party movement.
Does it? I guess you watched a different video.
- What would be news is a coherent idea about what they are pissed about, …
If you paid attention at all to what is said at the rallies and what is voiced by the NUMEROUS Tea Party organizations, you would know that a very coherent platform already exists. You’ll have to do your own homework there. No one is going to spoon-feed you. But you can start here:
Just because the Fifth Column / Left Wing Media constantly tells you to ignore this reality, doesn’t mean you have to continue to act like a lazy prig.
And look up ad hominem while you’re busy educating yourself. It obviously doesn’t mean what you think it means. Here’s an example: your ‘argument’ (and “melody’s”) isn’t invalid because you come off like a lazy prig, it’s invalid all on its own.
Who exactly is incapable of thinking? You. Racissst..Raccissst Racissst.
Quack, Quack Quack. The Tea Party is an open event. Anyone can come.
The Tea Party is about Small Govt, self reliance, less taxes. Black people
dont go to the Tea Party because black people arent interested in those things.
They have shown their preferences in every election for over 100 years.
They always vote for whoever promises them the Welfare State, and always will.
Its their choice. In addition they vote straight race. In fact everyone
seeking power in the USA is voting race, except whites. They are voting
for race replacement and racial self destruction. The NAACP know this..so they
snuck the Race inssue into the Tea Party. And now..the Tea Party has as its
focus..not Big Government..but Black People and race. Worked like a charm didnt it?
You can’t possibly believe this crapp, can you? This is why reasonable people are leaving the republican party, how embarrassing people like you are.
For goodness’ sake, everybody, please stop repeating the canard that everyone in the Tea Party movement is white! There are indeed minorities (blacks and Latinos) in the Tea Party, I have seen them interviewed on television, and don’t forget about the unfortunate black man who was beaten up last summer by SEIU union thugs at a Tea Party rally.
Another example of playing the Far Lefts game. The Tea Party IS WHITE.
99% white, 93% white does it matter? Why are you denying this? More importantly
why do you feel the NEED TO APOLGIZE? Why are you acting on this white guilt
impulse? Why cant you refuse to obey it? How mentally conditioned are you?
And WHO is doing the conditioning? QUIT APOLOGIZING. There are vast differences
between the races..and it a LIE to say otherwise. Stop LYING.
Picture this; some lefty activist sends a tape to CNN showing a Tea Party meeting where a leader is up front telling a story about how he had been asked by some black woman on welfare and with an attitude, if she could join or perform some Tea Party function. The speakers says “You know, I wasn’t comfortable with this woman’s attitude and I put her off because, frankly, I resented how she had been taking advantage of welfare etc. Murmurs of assent are heard from the audience. Tape ends.
Keith Olbermann runs this story and blathers on about the Tea Party;s racist attitudes etc.
Then it turn out that in the very next sentence, the Tea Party speaker talks about he adjusted his attitude, realized that we are all in this together against Big Government and that said woman is now a dedicated Tea Party supporter etc.
But wait! The lefty who supplied the tape refuses to back down because of those assenting murmurs to the first part. Whoa; the Tea Party does contain racists. So the smear was valid.
Everyone (well almost) acknowledges that the racial grievance piece in our society should be toned down. If people use anecdotes of their past bad attitude, to help people see the need for change, well, good for them. A good speaker to make his or her point would TRY to get the audience to assent at least a little to the “bad” thing, to help change them toward the better thing.
As for me, as soon as I heard the truncated version of the tape, I wondered what point Sherrod could be making, because it just did not sound complete. It’s clear, that some people here don’t care about using fair context of a clip, as long as the use serves a good end (in this case, supposedly exposing NAACP racism and their hypocrisy in their accusations against the Tea Party.) In the end everyone is, or should be sheepish here (including O’Reilly, who did a decent mea culpa last night). Most others are also stepping to the plata and aknowledging that they screwed up one way or another.
I don’t know how much credibility Breitbart has, but I do know that if he does not say something more balanced to qualify his use of the tape, he comes closer to the little boy who cried wolf.
- I don’t know how much credibility Breitbart has, but I do know that if he does not say something more balanced to qualify his use of the tape…
Er… clearly, you never even read his original reporting that went with the publication of the first video excerpt. His intent has been clear and consistent from the beginning. Pretending he hasn’t, while refusing to actually verify this for yourself by reading what he wrote, is exactly what the government wants.
Socialists in America – which includes the White House, most of Congress, almost ALL of the media, practically ALL of academia, ALL of the nation’s Unions and much of the nation’s big crony-capitalist / corporatist businesses (GM, the Pharmas, etc.) DESPERATELY want to turn the public debate in this country into one that centers on racism. Socialists live to create victim groups and pit them against each other in order to gain power through the crises that result. That’s why issues like this persist.
Socialists in America do NOT want Americans talking about the fact that the Democrat Congress has exploded the federal deficit by TEN TIMES since 2007 (the last budget passed by a Republican Congress). They do not want Americans talking about how the Democrats’ choice to hike the minimum wage has affected unemployment. They don’t want Americans talking about the REAL unemployment figures which, when you include those who have taken early retirement, accepted menial jobs or just quit looking altogether, is closer to somewhere between 15% and 20% – not just 10%. They do not want Americans talking about what a closet liberal GWB was, with respect to domestic policy. They do not want Americans talking about the realities of ObamaCare, the fact that Medicare is bankrupt and the fact that Social Security soon will be. They do not want Americans talking about how the so-called “Stimulus” did absolutely nothing to create jobs and how they completely underestimated the damage that affirmative action programs like CRA, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac did to our economy.
What Socialists in America want us talking about is Race- and Class-centered “issues”. Radosh and people who think like him have helped the Socialists to do exactly this, and they will rue the day they realize which side of history they were on.
Whoa! I heard Breitbart interviewed on tv and heard his response. Not good enough.
As for: “they want us talking about race,” who the hell put the video out there? It must be my fault because I did not read what he originally wrote? That simply does not address my point. You ignore the rest of my post because it clearly shows how the right would howl (and rightly so) were the situation reversed. I agree that the economy is much more relevant, but that is not the topic at hand.
- I heard Breitbart interviewed on tv and heard his response. Not good enough.
Your willfully uninformed opinion, based your admission that you never actually read Breitbart’s original reportage and, apparently, didn’t even pay much attention to what he actually said, depending on which interview you saw. The salient portion of his report, he reiterated in his Hannity interview. How many times and in how many different ways does he need to say exactly the same thing before it gets past the wax in your ears and overcomes the fact that you never understood what he was reporting in the first place because you couldn’t be bothered to read it? You and Radosh need a remedial course in paying attention.
- It must be my fault because I did not read what he originally wrote?
Exactly. Your confusion is your own fault. You can’t claim you never read his original report in one breath and then claim he hasn’t said enough in the next. That sort of intellectual dishonesty invalidates any point you think you may have made.
And regarding “they want us talking about race”, you obviously didn’t get it. THEY are the people who have been constantly screaming “racist!” about the Tea Party, in order to marginalize the Tea Party’s actual message, which focuses on all of the above.
Breitbart’s expose demonstrated how hypocritical those accusations are, which shows that the accusations themselves are, in fact, nothing more than an attempt to deflect from the real issues. And the fact that you don’t understand any of that is really kind of irrelevant.
Liberals and the Left aren’t the enemy. The elites who benefit from the status quo are. I really wish more conservatives would wake up to the fact that people such as Breitbart exist solely to whip up hysteria and outrage against “the other”; to keep people distracted from the convergence of media, corporations and government that is driving our country into the ground.
Racist, n. Someone who is winning an argument with a leftist.
Before Ms. Sherrod opened her mouth on CNN, I did sympathize with her. I felt that the Obama Administration should have viewed the entire footage, and not just the portion that was provided by Andrew Breitbart’s website. The USDA and Vilsack made a rush to judgment, and now he is paying the political price for this mistake. Not surprisingly, the White House denies that the President had any knowledge of what had transpired. That is about as convincing as attempting to tell people the Earth is flat. But once I saw the entire video of her speaking engagement with the NAALCP and her response to what transpired, all my personal sympathy went out the window.
1) Watch the whole video. The point Breitbart was trying to make had more to do with the NAALCP’s audience reaction to Ms. Sherrod’s story. When she starts admitting her behavior towards the white farmer years ago, the audience starts to laugh and, in my opinion, AGREE with discrimination (as long as it is against someone who is white). There was nothing funny about what she was confessing. The intention was to show that those donors and affiliates with the NAALCP hold racist views. Which they do.
2) I watched Ms. Sherrod on CNN yesterday, and watched her blame Fox News and Breitbart for her termination. She then when on to say that since both are conservative, that they want to go back to a time when black citizens were legally discriminated against and blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, they same Leftist claptrap. Her statement was another straw man argument, at one of its most vile. Sorry but I lost all respect for this individual, and do not feel much sympathy for her now. Breitbart and FOX News doesn’t hold the power to get someone fired. The Obama Administration, USDA and Vilsack decided to terminate you, Ma’am. You were a victim of incompetence, but that does not give you carte blanche to act like a racialist and project negative stereotypes onto Conservatives.
3) The State-Run Media is shaping the political narrative. They are placing blame on the administration, but it is a full force offensive onto Andrew Breitbart. As usual, the media does not focus on what is really important: NAALCP audience members agreeing with Sherrod’s past racial discrimination. I’m even surprised, and a little disappointed, that some Conservatives are turning on Breitbart so quickly. Do you EVER see the Left criticize their own when they jump to conclusions (i.e. labeling the Tea Party “racist”)….NEVER!
I really hate to say this, but we Conservatives need to circle the wagons. This arm of the Democrat Party (State-Run Media) is going to pull any and every type of political posturing to help the Statists this fall. They know what’s coming, so they have to distract the public as much as possible with this whole NAALCP vs. the Tea Party and Breitbart. Ladies and gentlemen, the Democrats in Congress just passed a financial bill (and the President just signed today) that is so far reaching, it is scary. We are living in a soft tyranny. And if we do not stop it this November and 2012, this country is gone. Mark my words.
Breitbart has no apology required. Sherrod didn’t consult anyone before she said what she did. In fact all evening news is short clips and NEVER complete speeches.
Sherrod is trying hard to drum up class warefare to cover her race warfare comments.
Actually Breitbart is at fault. He agreed to play a rigged game. He entered
a wholly rigged conversation..ie “Race”. He tried to show that the NAACP is racist.
The NAACP and Obama ..chuckled with glee. They fired Sherrod..and Breitbart
took the blame. Brillant. How many times does it have to happen. Dont enter
the conversation. Dont play the “race” game. Quit running around trying to
prove you are not “racist”. It never works..the blacks just chuckle..cluck
their tongues and ask you to prove it.. more welfare, more concessions, more
lies. The upshot of Breitbarts scheme..is now the Tea Party is about placating
Black people. Blacks have in effect taken it over. Its kinda funny that a token
black appointed to run the Tea Party..ends up purging white people for “racism”
Hilarious.
- They fired Sherrod..and Breitbart took the blame.
Last I checked, it was the NAACCCP that was forced to release a retraction of their initial attack on Sherrod.
It was the White House that was forced to apologize for firing her.
It’s the White House that’s been forced to offer her a promotion.
Breitbart is the one who’s laughing. Last relevant tweet: “How many times can anono-blogger @allahpundit write same piece in which he raises specter of me falling on face while I stand in end zone?”
Yep, you’re obviously a ThinkProgress plant.
Why of course.. a ThinkProgress plant. I mean no one could actually believe
in white racial identity could they? They would have to be a Nazi or a Far Left
plant. There isnt any substance to that at all to “race” .race is
only about skin color. Nothing more. I mean you can name lots of cases where Western Civilzation has existed independent of white people cant you? Why dont you
name a few examples..or just one example.
It couldnt be that race and Western Civilzation has some deep symbiotic
relationship..kill one you kill the other? Hmm? So as whites are driven into the
minority here in the USA..giving up their culture, their land, the future. And this project takes millions of white useful idiots to succeed..whites who will do anything to refute and deny race..and racism..the question is..as an agent of this
destruction ..are YOU the Think Progress plant? Hmmm?
- Why of course.. a ThinkProgress plant.
That’s what I wrote, yes.
- I mean no one could actually believe in white racial identity could they? They would have to be a Nazi or a Far Left plant.
In your case – pretty much.
If you think Breitbart and Fox aren’t part of the State Run Media, you’ve lost your mind. They play the part they are assigned: incite the masses, keep them from thinking, keep them from uniting to form an effective resistance to the elites. Wake up.
So…how did the Tea Party which is 99% white become all about Black People?
Hmmm? Now the Tea Party is spending all its time creating bizarre hoaxes like the
Black Tea Party ie. The “Uni-Tea Party”. A joke. The Tea Party has always
been a open affair, anyone can attend. Blacks choose not to. Why? Because the original Tea Party stood for something.. Reduced Taxes, Small Government, personal
responsibility and Self Reliance. Black people arent interested in those things.
White people are.Blacks have stated there preferences as clearly as possible over and over and over. In every election for a century. In 2012 95% of Blacks will vote for Obama again as long as he keeps promising the same Welfare State hand outs.
They will vote straight race. Why cant Whites accept this?. What is Breitbart
trying to prove..that the NAACP is hypocritical? That all they need to do is
be brought to reason and will change their ways? The NAACP didnt arrive at its positions intellectually. Its not rational at all. Its tribal. Intellectual consistency is a white thing. Post tribalism is a white thing. Also peculiarly white is this suicidal self delusion about all this. Breitbart decided to beat the
NAACP at its own game..and ended up in a morass of self contradiction and lies.
He is probably mortified by the fool he made of himself. Ron Radosh is.
I am..others too I suppose. That too is a white thing. The NAACP
however never stops at such small contradictions..it goes on to ever greater acts
of flamboyant public spectacle and unreason until whites give up in exasperation.
The key is not to compete with the NAACP. Recognize the reality of racial differences and quit lying about it.
These liberal plants (i.e. ehunter) are becoming TOO EASY TO SPOT.
I assure you I am not a liberal plant. Now assure me that the Tea Party
hasnt become exactly the opposite of what it started out to be. And it
happened because Tea Partiers refuse to see whats happening to them.
The Far Left diverted the conversation to race..and you went right along looking
for their approval. Here is what you do the next time a Lefty screams
RAAAACCIIIISSM.!!!
Say.
1. Whats your point?
2. So What?
3. Game Over.
S/he’s right. You come off like a ThinkProgress shill.
Try to be more subtle next time.
Thanks for proving my pint. The brainwashing of whites is so complete that
anyone refusing to apolgize for the most sucessful racial group in world
history MUST really be workin for the Far Left. I mean no one actually believes
in White racial identity except ..except blacks, hispanics, Chinese, Japanese and muslims…all of whom approve whole heartedly of the White European Suicide Cult.
And, oh yeah, any white that wont join that cult..must be a Neo Nazi..too. Right?
What point? You have yet to make a point.
All you’re doing is posting race-baiting nonsense that sounds like it was written by a two-year-old. The translation comes out like this: “I’m white!! Nya,nya,nya!! You’re a wussie if you don’t agree!!!”
That’s the sort of crap the morons at places like ThinkProgress come up with because in their delusional fantasy world, that’s how Tea Party supporters think and act. Mental defectives like ~melody~ buy into this delusional caricature completely, and point to statements like YOURS as “evidence” of “Tea Party racism”. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if the two of you turn out to be sock puppets animated by the same soon-to-be-unemployable Journolist member.
The Tea Party has not become what it was initially described as by the liberal media/groups/politics/whatever. I am white. My granddaugher is black. There are people from every walk/race in Tea Party groups. There are jerks and there are honest people who love this great country America. We do our best but we can’t control the idiots and malicous malcontents who exist to paint American Patriots as anything less than honest people working to stop this country’s downfall.
If EVERYONE who is critical of any/all things conservative would give equal coverage to BOTH SIDES (liberal and conservative) we could have an honest debate. But as Rush said today, he’s tired of all the race crap liberals whine about and he is refusing to be drawn into your whining anymore. I agree. It’s more important for us to focus on saving America from those in power who are doing everything possible to destroy this great country and enslave us all to an entitlement mentality. Whatever “rights” “given” you by government can also be taken away. And one day, even the liberal brain-dead could be considered the “wrong” type of people for their agenda.
So would you please stop spewing about “white” people this and “black” people that and get with the program? Unless you are a miraculous being who can be everywhere all the time – stop with telling everyone else what the facts are. I “was there” and I know what you say is BS.
God bless American exceptionalism and those Patriots who work tirelessly to return Her to our Founding Father’s vision of what She should ALWAYS BE.
So…how did the Tea Party which is 99% white become all about Black People?
Before you begin blathering, you would be advised to check the facts. From the Gallup Poll:
Tea Partiers Are Fairly Mainstream in Their Demographics
Tea Party Supporters
Non-Hispanic White 79 %
Non-Hispanic Black 6%
Other 15%
All Americans
Non-Hispanic White 75%
Non-Hispanic Black 11%
Other 15%
I don’t see how you get “99% White” out of those figures.
When was last time you saw anything in this country 79% anything? More importantly
why do you feel this need to find straws to quibble over?. Why are you apologizing
for a white majority. As if its a mistake to be corrected? What degree of brainwashing goes into saying this..when you actually believe the opposite.
Ask yourself…will you buy a house in an neighborhood thats 55%? white..or
85% white?.or better yet 95% white?. You dont apologize about whiteness then do you?
Not when it comes to money..because you know that whiteness brings stability,
security, common sense, and safety of your investment. But when it comes to anything
else..like your Country..95% whiteness is sign of defect. Why?
Ehunter:
Just out of curiosity,(and striving mightily to get this discussion back to Breitbart’s point), what percentage of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People is non-Hispanic White?
You seem to be falling into the trap of defending the TEA Party, and while that is perfectly within your right to do so, the best defense in this instance is to do as Comrade Brother Alinsky suggested, and attack the NAACP by asking them to “walk their talk” and judge them by the same standard they demand of other, less overtly racist organizations.
My point is that you cant argue with the irrational. Intellectual
consistency is a largely white thing. You cannot embarass the NAACP
by pointing out their hypocrisy. It doesnt work. You cant Out-Alinsky
and Alinskite. Alinsky’s tactics work only on the well meaning, white
rational base of society that Alinsky hated. The rational will
fall for Alinsky every time. But reverst the process and attack
the NAACP and you will get nowhere. Its like shouting an carefully
arranged argument into an empty room. Lights are on, no one is home.
Ah, I see.
The point however is not to “embarrass” the NAACP, (how can one embarrass an organization? It’s a simulacrum of an organism, and has no feelings or self-consciousness), but rather the point is to discredit it in the eyes of sentient Americans.
In this, I think Andrew Breitbart has succeeded beyond his wildest dreams, since every media outlet…even those attacking him…has seen fit to rebroadcast the video excerpt that he publicized.
And the message therein is one of a double helping of black on white racism.
This is one of the reasons that I like Breitbart, and that he is so effective. He gets that politics is not just a philosophical debating society, but also a gutter-sport.
I would disagree that using Alinskyite tactics get you nowhere.
Not only did Breitbart nail the NAACP and fix them in the mind of fair-minded potential voters as a pack of racist political hacks that cheer a scandalous “get Whitey” story, but he even got the Alleged Hawaiian and his pet honkies, Robert Gibbs and Tom Vilsack to all take a big bite of the fecal biscuit…on TeeVee!
ehunter, please stop being prejudice. You keep saying, “black people” as if they are all the same. I’m calling you out and if I could I would escort you off of this conservative website. Just like I would point you out at a Tea Party as someone who is not one that holds the views of Americans who want our Republic back. PERIOD
“Refusing to apologize, he said “the audience showed racism.””
Why should he apologize? He is correct.
“The NAAP acknowledged that they were “snookered by Fox News and Andrew Breitbart,” and apologized for their condemnation of Sherrod and asking for her removal.”
They can’t acknowledge what isn’t true, they weren’t snookered at all, except by their own hamhanded attempt to get out of the news-cycle by throwing Sherrod under the bus.
Say it with us Mr. Radosh, Breitbart didn’t fire her.
Also please acknowledge Breitbart right at the time he released the video made it clear he was about showing the NAACP attendees reactions to her story before there was any redeeming feature known of it–so it shows exactly what Breitbart showcased the video as showing.
Radosh is doing exactly what the NAACP and the WH did when they first saw the video. They all over reacted to it and made stupid remarks. Radosh is doing the same thing because Breitbart never claimed she was a racist or that she should be fired. As stated above he was showing the hipocrosy of the NAACP audience when they laughed and clapped about Sherrod’s treatment of the poor white farmer. He pointed this out in his release of the video but some are unable to read. No apology is due from Andrew and he should be proud of his actions.
From Althouse:
“Blaming those who showed you that one thing does not absolve you from your responsibility to rise above the level of instinct and fear.”
http://althouse.blogspot.com/2010/07/benjamin-jealous-and-shirley-sherrod.html
No way. The fact that the truth has consequences isn’t sufficient reason to apologize for revealing the truth. In addition, you don’t apologize to a bully for slightly misdirected blows you get in against them while trying to defeat their assault on you. If one of your blows opens an old wound on the bully’s’ little finger, so be it.
Any ‘harm’ she has suffered is due to her own actions whether she has repented of those actions or not. So she starts getting her Civil Service pension a few years early, do you really doubt she inflicted far worse results on others prior to seeing the error of her ways? This isn’t a case of someone trying to say something flattering at an old man’s birthday party without thinking it through to the n’th degree , it’s a case of someone admitting that they altered their racist behavior after having engaged in it while in a position of authority over others.
Sorry, but unless and until there is an entirely different crowd running the government, all of the NAACP style racist organizations, all of the old media, and the entire academic infrastructure in this country, damn the apologies and do whatever you can to show the lying, racist, fascists, for what they really are. By the time this thing blows over, someone will probably be saying it’s proof of why honkies should pay reparations so save your apologies for that issue if you have one just itching to jump out.
have a nice day
So they create chaos and stand back and laugh. Oh, wait….maybe a bunch of the lib media are going to start apologizing for the macaca thing? Naaah, probably not.
Breitbart has given Sherrod another reason to sue the USDA. She’s probably silently singing his praises.
This makes me ashamed of being on the right
Ms. Sherrod’s big life lesson: Being a racist isn’t cool, so it’s better to be a socialist and hate white people for being the “haves” (versus the “have nots”) instead. Either way, it’s still “cracKKKer”-bashing.
This whole Breitbart kerfluffle is a red herring from a red herring from a red herring. It’s like publishing a video segment from a county fair of a citizen being pickpocketed with a fair staffperson making silly faces in the background. Next, the person making faces is fired, before the entire video is published — which shows that the person is accompanying a youngster in a wheelchair.
The essential wrong — that the NAACP condones racism — is being obscured by a debate over collateral issues. The video was being used to prove a point, and the point was proven by the segment of video involved. Is anyone to be held accountable for every single thing in a video that they publish to prove a point? What a ridiculous standard!
That the NAACP completely missed the point is as much an indictment of their mindset as their unreasoned reactions targeting Ms. Sherrod. They would literally not recognize true racism if they had it on video.
The essential wrong — that the NAACP condones racism — is being obscured by a debate over collateral issues.
A debate made possible by the faux pas of either selectively editing the video to eliminate context… or if that’s all he had, of running with it before verifying that context.
All the points made about Sherrod’s actual racist/Marxist ideology, the racism necessarily inherent to a organization calling itself the National Association for the Advancement of Certain People (Defined by Race) are true. They have been true for a long time; as I’ve noted many times before, racism is a species of collectivism, and as such is Leftist in root and branch.
However, forcing this fact into the open, where the mainstream cannot ignore it as it has been doing for so long, is a process that, by its nature, has to be executed in a manner that leaves the evaders no obvious escape route.
That’s Breitbart’s error. The point is not that he’s wrong — it’s that he gave the enemy some rope to use against him. The dropping of context in the cropped video gave the Left all the plausibility they needed to distract from the real issue. In light of how long they have been able to keep these open facts suppressed, and how truly entrenched the myth of Leftist/”liberal” anti-racism is,
Breitbart should have known that he needed his case to be tight as a drum. It wasn’t. Now he, and anyone else attempting to bring Leftist racism to light, will be on the defensive. The two videos compared, are sufficiently plausible as a case for deliberate misrepresentation of Sherrod’s character by selective editing.
Compare this to the “Tea Party is racist” lie; we’re still dealing with that one, even though there isn’t a shred of anything to give it plausibility. The case against Breitbart has that shred now, and that’s all they need.
The Left retains control of the narrative, people. You must first wrest it from them, breaking their myths on the rocks of painfully obvious fact, before the unaided truth of not-so-painfully-obvious fact is a defense — because if you don’t, they’ll just re-define it out from underneath you. They did it in the aftermath of WWII, re-defining National Socialism as “right wing” in order to insulate themselves from the consequences of their unleavened ideas, and they’ll do it again.
Oi. This story is so noisy and a lot of people aren’t getting the purpose of the the video release. This story is not about Sherrod but the NAACP members’ reaction when she mentions her short term prejudicial tendencies. It is clear from the video that many people in the audience get hyped up on black vs. white racism. This is the point of the video, and it illustrates the hypocrisy of the NAACP in irresponsibly labeling the Tea Party as racist. That’s it.
A take on the matter not supporting Mr. Radosh.
http://deanesmay.com/2010/07/21/counter-narratives/
The Tea Party should definitely fight back against the NAACP by demonstrating the racism of the left, but only with the truth. Since half a truth is a whole lie it seems like this particular incident was dishonest on Brietbart’s part and will do him more harm than good. The bright spot in all this is that it clearly demonstrates that the Obama Adminstration is running scared and has no problem forcing career civil servants to walk the plank if they see a political gain from doing so.
You cant fight the Lefts hypocrisy about race. Case in point Shirley Sherrod.
White man accuses black woman of racism. Lefties fire poor black woman
at behest of cruel white man. Black woman gives tearful interviews. Whites
come across as racist…again.
Game over
You lose.
Apologize! Are you kidding me? Andrew you do no such thing! I want to say screw you but I won’t. What’s with the giving up? We are not racists, period. We are also waiting for our apology! They started calling us names from day one and now we have proof the media made it up. So you want Andrew to apologize, well I want you to apologize to me and to him for just saying that. Enough with this fake race crap and what a thing to write about, are you trying to help Obama and the media? It sure looks like it.
As I wrote on my blog and in my vlog everyone is to blame for this mess, from Agriculture Department to the NAACP to Andrew Breitbart.
I just can’t believe it went this far and they all made Shirley Sherrod into their own little puppet for their own purposes and/or stupidity.
I beg to differ. At the 33:09 mark Sherrod tells a long story about how she used her government office and government lawyers RECENTLY (her own words) to try and block a land sale, for no other reason than because the buyer was white.
All fine. Up to this point, she is protecting the interests of an elderly woman who wants to die on the land she has lived on for her entire life. But then her client passes away. Does Sherrod stop? No. She has a different agenda.
Watch her body language on that last part. She is absolutely dripping with anger and contempt that she wasn’t able to “save” the land from being purchased by a white man.
By her own admission, Sherrod abused her government position to try and block a land sale to “save” (her own word — saved) land from falling into the hands of a white person. This isn’t something that happened 24 years ago. This is something that happened, in her words, recently. She rues the fact that she was unable, using the full power of her government position and government lawyers, to prevent the sale of black-owned land, in which she had no interest or interested party, to a white buyer.
This isn’t something that happened 24 years ago. This is an example of Sherrod abusing her government position, in her own word “recently”, to interfere with a land sale because she didn’t like the color of the buyer’s skin.
That’s abuse of power. That’s naked, open racism. That’s what her defenders want us to overlook. I refuse.
I don’t believe Andrew owes anyone an apology.
He should just refer them back to Sharrods statements and let them argue with the video.
She said what she said, and her audience was eating it up.
She can defend herself. Give her a job???
Never.
Ron, Have you watched the entire video? Ms. Sherrod may have had an epiphany about black/white and rich/poor 24 years ago but she still sees the world through a profoundly racial perspective; she hates Repbulicans who, she assumes, are all white. Breitbart owes no one an apology. He has performed a service.
Breitbart yes, Radosh no. Dr. Radosh you [deliberately?] missed the point. The NAACP has been given a pass on being racist for generations, and Breitbart is correctly calling them on it. He went with what he had at the time. When he published he had no further duty – Dr. Radosh, are you serious? – to determine if other video versions were available. His evidence spoke for itself. Once he found out otherwise, as long as he acknowledged it later, which he did, his journalistic ethics beat the pants off anything else seen today.
Dr. Radosh is being a useful idiot by helping the left-stream media divert attention from over-reactions by the WH and administration. Shame on him.
Why apologise? Do i need to mention if the colors were reveres how the person would STILL be fired? and how the libs would be touting this as prrof of the racist beliefs of conservatives? AB actually prooved his point. While she learned her lesson and I do not think she should have been fired, when you watch the video its shows a great deal on how racist the NAACP actually is. While she knew that she learned that race does not matter. The NAACP audience was lauging and cheering her when she stated how she did not help the white guy as much as she could of..because he was white. next AB never demanded anyone to be fired.that was SOLEY the USDA and WH decision to react without the facts. The NAACP had the full video and chose to be ‘snookered’ by FOX and condem her rather than take a moment and review the entire thing. If fact it AB article shows how racist and downright cowardly the obama admin and NAACP actually are, in yet another example of how quick they both are to throw one of their own under the bus and blame others for their foolish actions. The NAACP started this as the libs did. They are the ones who continually cry how we at the tea party are racists. even when proof to the contrary is shows they still shout racism loud and proud. the NAACP and obama admin are whiners who cannot take responsibility. dont fall into the same trap of blamiing others for the reactions of them
I am a lib and I AM touting this as proof of republican/ right-wing racism. Having heard only a small snippet (which anyone could tell was just that b/c there was no beginning or ending) Breitbart and FOX etc., felt they knew, just KNEW that this woman was a racist because she was black. They are all the time trying to say that blacks are as racist as they are but can never show a lick of proof without lying about it. Further, when we consider FOX’s crusade against the very qualified Van Jones and the very helpful (to mostly black people though)ACORN and the also very qualified Sotomaayor, we see pretty clearly GOP types have a problem with minorities. Of course said minorities don’t vote for GOP. Duh.
Sorry Laura. The only thing that comes out of this for sure is that Breitbart is absolutely correct.
The NAACP is blatantly anti-white, racist, and incompetent. And many of us have about had it with the double standards and bogus charges of racism that cowards like you allow to fester with your sickening sanctimony.
Was there an actaul “racial redemption” outcome which was supposed to render her earlier racist statement a moot point? As I understand it, she merely pitied the white farmers on a personal level and deferred their situation to a white lawyer, without much serious introspection or repentance of her bigotry. Because without that…. she’s still a racist. This woman was known to make kooky statements about rich (white) folks railing against a black president
It really is amazing how context and the bigger picture suddenly matters for the left when THEY are accused of racism. I still remember how black rioters targeted Korean businesses because they felt discriminated by them. I’m sure the NAACP urged them to explore the cultural misunderstanding between them, and how immigrants often move from racially (or nationally) homogenous culture that is either unfamiliar or resentful of cultures and superpowers abroad.
Black faced actors dancing in Mexican TV morning shows, “Only (our countrymen) allowed here” “(foreigners / Americans)” not welcome here” signs in a few Korean or Chinese stores, and businessman who would rather hire their own ethnicity or sell products to their own people – This is isn’t some bizarre Rand Paul fantasy. This is a reality abroad. Most people are genuinely aghast when Americans accuse them of racism for something they think is some light hearted fun. You can either label them as racist or realize that not everyone experienced civil rights movement exactly as Americans did, nor do they see everything through a racial prism.
Ron writes: “The white lawyer Sherrod had sent him to did not help stop the foreclosure, but told the farmer to let the farm go. At that point, Sherrod sprung to his defense and went on to help him save his farm. From this experience she learned “it’s really about those who have versus those who don’t … And it made me realize then that I needed to work to help poor people, those who don’t have access the way others have.””
Allow a slight copyedit, Ron?
“‘…those who don’t have access the way others have [don't have access to other people's money the way we government workers have].’”
I’m trying to understand. This lady is paid $150K per annum by THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE to help people who can’t pay their farm mortgages keep their farms? Or was that 20 years ago at a lower salary? Surely I don’t have all the facts!
My heart bleeds for people falsely accused of racism… oh, wait, no it doesn’t. After decades of false accusations, the last drops were squeezed out by Andre Carson, John Lewis, and the NAACP when they falsely accused millions of racism. Sherrod can take number, get in line, and sit down. Cases will be addressed in chronological order. At five minutes per apology, it’ll be about 200 years when her turn of the wheel arrives.
Well y’know, this attitude is one way to arrive at that “post-racial America” nonsense some people babble about.
People of all ethnicities should take careful note of this attitude, since it is the natural and entirely predictable result of “going to the racist well” once too often, and for increasingly bogus motives.
tehag, I suspect that your character is upright enough that if you had personal knowledge of racism against a black person, you’d resist the temptations of petty payback and speak out against it.
The “teachable moment” about Sherrod’s anecdote was the tawdry and sordid rationalizations she made to herself to excuse her own bigotry. And at least in that one instance, she came around to realizing that it doesn;t really matter HOW you “get there”, what matters is that you ARE “there”.
We are always tempted by the evil we sense in others to excuse the evil within ourselves…that’s how the Devil rolls, see?
That’s how he captures human souls.
The redemption of Ms Sherrod is that she decided that class warfare should replace racisim. She didn’t reject racism per se. Not much of an improvement. Her redepmtion is not that that she decided racism was wrong but the her class biases trumped her racial biases.
Brietbart owes noone anything. Since the NAACP and journolists are suddently into context and fairness, let them first start with themselves and how they treated the Tea Psrty.
Ron and the other critics of Breitbart are the ones who have been “snookered” by the racist Left who did a great job of circling the wagons and counter-attacking. Two points must be remembered:
1. As Breitbart explained, the purpose of the video was to show the racists in the NAACP cheering Sherrod when she talked about her distaste for that white farmer. His purpose was to expose not Sherrod but her audience. Breitbart never said anything about wanting Sherrod fired from her current job. He has nothing to apologize about.
2. People are focusing on the false epiphany related in Sherrod’s tale. Listen to it again. She is using a code of rhetoric designed to distract from her real meaning. She did not do all she could, or use her position to assist in any way. She referred him to “one of his own kind”, which is a racist sentiment in itself. And what “kind”? A bankruptcy lawyer who had had a little training with her department. Yeah right, like that’s offering real assistance. The farmer ended up being foreclosed.
Sherrod told that last part of the tale to deflect blame for her racism. After all, she didn’t do nothing…but she knew that what she did would be of no help at all. And offering no help at all while creating a facade of deniability was her goal.
This Marxist, racist woman has no place in government at any level, and Breitbart did us all a service in showing us how these leftist racists talk among themselves, in the same way that MEMRI translates from the Arabic what Muslim leaders tell their people after they publicly lie to us in English.
Shirley Sherrod was not a saint some twenty years ago. She did initially discriminate against the farmer. He was placed in greater risk while Sherrod twirled her fingers. That she later somewhat redeemed herself does not completely exonerate her.
Maybe you’re right. But did you know her father was murdered by a white farmer? Leaving her mother with 4 daughters and a son to raise? Did you know she was a volunteer at the time of the story helping black farmers try to save their farms and the white farmer asked for her help (because she knew more about the system than he)even as he was being condescending? It is easy to sit here now and say you would have jumped up to help him while having to not help someone else but I wouldn’t believe you.Reading these comments, I find that many of you a real quick to call a black woman a racist and real slow to admit you were wrong. I wonder why…
“. But did you know her father was murdered by a white farmer? Leaving her mother with 4 daughters and a son to raise? ”
So what?
What does that have to do with a white Georgia farmer in the 1980′s who applied for charity to save his farm?
Did he do it?
No, he did not…so what relevance does any of that have to the issue at hand?
Nothing whatsoever, except for someone trying to giun up a “pity party” to misdirect the discussion.
“Did you know she was a volunteer at the time of the story helping black farmers try to save their farms and the white farmer asked for her help ”
I’d again ask “so what?”, but this tends to show that the charity she was volunteering at was itself a racist entity.
Just like the NAACP audience that she was speaking to, who thoroughly enjoyed her “get over on Whitey” tale.
That wasn’t the best defense you could have mustered on Ms. Sherrod’s behalf, y’know.
“Reading these comments, I find that many of you a real quick to call a black woman a racist and real slow to admit you were wrong. I wonder why…”
Because they’re NOT wrong. The woman herself admitted her racism….why are YOU so quick to stand up and defend her?
Do you make a habit of this?
Can we expect you to defend her when the Feds open a criminal civil-rights violation investigation against her?
(Yes…that was sarcasm. We all know that she will get a pass on her admitted civil-rights violation where someone of another gender or color would not have).
Fly away, little moonbat.
Ron is right. Breitbart should apologize, as soon as the NFL, the NAACP, the major media, all apologize to Rush Limbaugh for stating he made statements which he did not, and for intentionally harming him in this matter, and many others. The Left always makes false attacks and never even admits they are false. Dan Rather stands by his fabrication against George Bush. The NAACP ad against Bush that talked about the many years ago case where a black boy was killed made it seem George Bush defended the white person who killed him. That person was executed under Texas law, I believe while Bush was Governor.
The Left has created a world where the Truth is a tool. They created this world. When the Left stops destroying people and institutions with Lies, then maybe Andrew Breitbart should apologize. In the meantime, as an attendee at several Tea Parties, I am still waiting for the apology from the NAACP that I am a racist.
First of all, there is absolutely nothing wrong with anything Andrew Breitbart did with resepct to the NAACP or Sherrod.
Second, the context does not “vindicate” Sherrod.
Third, and most importyantly, I am sick of people like Radosh, Krauthammer, Boehner, etc. who are more concerned with moral preening than what is stake in this country. Ronald Reagan – whom these writers profess to understand and admire – understood that unilatreal disarmament is no answer when the opponent has no scruples. For years, conservatives have been hampered by their insistence on playing by the rules while radicals and liberals are willing and able to do whatever it takes to win. Ask George Allen.
Thank God for someone like Andrew Breitbart who fights fire with fire and thinks the fate of the nation is more important than demonstrating his “nobility” to people who have nothing but contempt for conservatives.
Sherrod is a community organizing parasite. The short clip shown contained her come to Jesus Marxist insight about poor vs rich.
We need a revolution and you need better be stronger than this Ron.
I don’t see how Breitbart is responsible for anything other than bringing the video to light.
Even if you agree that the video is 1) Old and 2) that Ms. Sherrod redeemed herself by finding a healthy attitude on race, the reaction of the crowd as she described her marginalization of the white farmer is certainly telling of the prevalent racist attitude towards whites (at least 20+ years ago). THAT, in and of itself, is more proof of a discriminatory attitude in the NAACP than anything in the NAACP has produced about a discriminatory attitude in the Tea Party.
If the USDA and the White House over-reacted, than that’s not Breitbart’s fault, it’s theirs.
Trying to understand the reasoning of those tripping each other to apologize…..so apparently class envy actually is now a completely acceptable framework for argument and personal attack (as illustrated by Sherrod)?
What’s being argued on her behalf now is she didn’t mean black and white, she meant rich and poor. Oh, that’s just great, since she and her minions get to identify “the rich” as any group they want to settle scores with. How much you want to be “the rich” are almost all white?
I’m sure that obama the Gray has already critized the audience for acting stupidly when they laughed with derision at the idea of her “helping a white man.” I probably just didn’t hear it.
Eric Holder said he wanted a conversation about race but he sure is quiet these days.
I quote here: ‘The white lawyer Sherrod had sent him to did not help stop the foreclosure, but told the farmer to let the farm go. At that point, Sherrod sprung to his defense and went on to help him save his farm. From this experience she learned “it’s really about those who have versus those who don’t … And it made me realize then that I needed to work to help poor people, those who don’t have access the way others have.”’ Is this, or is it not, the smiley face expression of socialist ideology? Why aren’t her socialist bona fides being exposed? That aspect of Sherrod is far more critical than her alleged racist remarks. And as Breitbart has tried to explain while not being shouted down by liberals is that jobs like the one Sherrod had enables mediocrities like Sherrod to wield power over everyone, regardless of his race. Abolish the job, abolish the department. Send Sherrod back to the private sector and a productive job — if she could handle one.
hmmm…a woman of color in a position of authority admits to having racist views (whether or not she later changes her mind). Sounds like she should never have been elected? appointed? to that position to begin with. A synchophant audience nods and cheers. A blatantly racist administration that “never lets a good crisis go to waste” sees the chance to smear conservatives as racists by using the information to fire her, then pretend that they actually EVER listen to what anyone tells them. An otherwise reliable news source (Breibart is such a source, no matter the cannabalistic infighting that the Left is working so hard to foment)makes a mistake. Wow! take something out of context? The MSM NEVER does that! Just ask Rush Limbaugh! So who was the source of the doctored tape? THAT is the person that needs to apologize to everyone. All Andrew Briebart should do is offer a retraction. Nothing more.
Congratulations to the majority of posters on this board. You get it. Breitbart exposed the NAACP’s blatant racism against white people.
Eric Holder we are having frank and open discussions about racism albeit not the PC BS kind that you, Barry and Michelle had demanded. We are not the wussie cowards that you thought we’d be.
This makes two back to back PC nonsensical articles by Ron Radosh. The last one accused conservatives of linking with the left because we no longer support Sharia nation building projects by the use of our brave men in the military.
Send Ron to the Huffiington Post where he belongs. Let him make his apologies over there.
She’s not owed an apology. By the way she has ties to Bill Ayers. The Truth Behind the Shirley Sherrod Firing By Obama Administration And It Is Not For Racism
Rosslyn Smith
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/07/forty_acres_a_mule_sher...
Shirley Sherrod’s quick dismissal from the Obama administration may have had less to do with her comments on race before the NAACP than her long involvement in the aptly named Pigford case, a class action against the US government on behalf of black farmers alleging that the US Department of Agriculture (USDA) had discriminated against black farmers during the period from 1983 through 1997. According to Wikipedia:
The plaintiffs settled with the government in 1999. Under the consent decree, all African American farmers would be paid a “virtually automatic” US$50,000 plus granted certain loan forgiveness and tax offsets. This process was called “Track A”.[2]
Alternatively, affected farmers could follow the “Track B” process, seeking a larger payment by presenting a greater amount of evidence – the legal standard in this case was to have a preponderance of evidence along with evidence of greater damages….
At the time the case was settled, it was estimated there would be in the area of 2,000 to 3,000 claims. As with most estimates involving government handouts that number was woefully short of the mark. Again, according to Wikipedia:
22,505 “Track A” applications were heard and decided upon, of which 13,348 (59%) were approved. US$995 million had been disbursed or credited to the “Track A” applicants as of January 2009, including US$760 million disbursed as US$50,000 cash awards. Fewer than 200 farmers opted for the “Track B” process.
Beyond those applications that were heard and decided upon, about 70,000 petitions were filed late and were not allowed to proceed. Some have argued that the notice program was defective, and others blamed the farmers’ attorneys for “the inadequate notice and overall mismanagement of the settlement agreement.” A provision in the 2008 farm bill essentially allowed a re-hearing in civil court for any claimant whose claim had been denied without a decision that had been based on its merits
In other words, according to Agri-Pulse.com the number of total claims filed not only exceeded the original estimate by almost 40 to 50 times, it is close to four times the USDA’s estimate of 26,785 total black owned farms in 1977! One reason for this is that the settlement applied to farmers and those who “attempted to farm” and did not receive assistance from the USDA. Getting the latest round of Pigford cases from the 2008 farm bill settled is said to be a high priority for the Obama administration.
So where does Sherrod come into this picture? In a special to the Washington Examiner, Tom Blumer explains that Sherrod and the group she formed along with family members and others, New Communities. Inc. received the largest single settlement under Pigford.
… New Communities is due to receive approximately $13 million ($8,247,560 for loss of land and $4,241,602 for loss of income; plus $150,000 each to Shirley and Charles for pain and suffering). There may also be an unspecified amount in forgiveness of debt. This is the largest award so far in the minority
farmers law suit (Pigford vs Vilsack).
What makes this even more interesting to me is that Charles appears to be Charles Sherrod, who was a big player in the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee in the early 1960s. The SNCC was the political womb that nurtured the Black Power movement and the Black Panthers before it faded away.
Blumer has some questions about this settlement and about Sherrod’s rapid departure from the USDA
Was Ms. Sherrod’s USDA appointment an unspoken condition of her organization’s settlement?
How much “debt forgiveness” is involved in USDA’s settlement with New Communities?
Why were the Sherrods so deserving of a combined $300,000 in “pain and suffering” payments — amounts that far exceed the average payout thus far to everyone else? ($1.15 billion divided by 16,000 is about $72,000)?
Given that New Communities wound down its operations so long ago (it appears that this occurred sometime during the late 1980s), what is really being done with that $13 million in settlement money?
Here are a few bigger-picture questions:
Did Shirley Sherrod resign so quickly because the circumstances of her hiring and the lawsuit settlement with her organization that preceded it might expose some unpleasant truths about her possible and possibly sanctioned conflicts of interest?
Is USDA worried about the exposure of possible waste, fraud, and abuse in its handling of Pigford?
Did USDA also dispatch Sherrod hastily because her continued presence, even for another day, might have gotten in the way of settling Pigford matters quickly?
I second his conclusion that the media and bloggers shouldn’t be so quick to dismiss Shirley Sherrod. Let me start by adding another question to the list. In her position at not for profit, Rural Development Leadership Network, a network of activists and community builder, was Sherrod involved in any way in encouraging people to submit fraudulent claims under Pigford? Did she put black people who owned rural land in touch with lawyers who would file the paperwork claiming attempts to farm had been prevented by the non cooperation of the local USDA?
I ask because there are a multitude of small parcels of non productive rural land all across the south, land unsuitable for mechanized agriculture that was once owned by subsistence farmers, black and white alike. Many of these parcels continue to be owned by family members who moved elsewhere out of sentimental reasons. The property taxes and other carrying costs are cheap and often ancestors are buried there in family plots. A drive on any country road in the South may turn up several carefully maintained postage stamp sized family cemeteries. As I read Blumer, I wondered how many of the owners claimed they had attempted to farm just such acreage to score a fast $50,000 from Uncle Sam?
http://marklevinshow.com/Article.asp?id=1885066&spid=32364
This is the entire video.
Andrew did nothing wrong. He exposed the racism of Sherrod’s NAACP audience. Thanks, Andrew, keep it up. Ron, you’re a fool.
gotta wonder, was this a set-up? The NAACP was so quick to fire SHerrod, without even talking to her or looking at the tape. It just feels like there is something else going on here.
Apology for running with an incomplete story? Hmmmmmmm! Can we now expect a long overdue apology from the network that employed Walter Cronkite for his hand in tipping VietNam from victory to defeat? Breitbart will probably apolgise to Ms. Sherrod, though he isn’t the guilty party here. NAACP jumped the shark, as did her boss at USDA as did the Whitehouse. The CYA spin emminating from all three stink to high-heaven. NAACP…..we were snookered! Hey this speech occured at a NAACP chapter meeting, they had the entire tape at their disposal but they jumped. Her boss at USDA did the same thing, yet he is more culpable, he acted at the behest of the Whitehouse stating his actions were with the full knowledge of President Obama. The Whitehouse is above all the string puller in this chirade. From the words of the director of the USDA comes the most damning statement………..the President knew! Now the “Bagdad” Gibbs is saying actions were taken without the Presidents knowledge. Excuse me! With the continual lies being exposed as the gist of Healthcare reform from what the President said wouldn’t happen to now know that all he said wouldn’t is happening…..based upon his history of lieing I vote that the head of USDA is the truth teller.
Look at it like this, Breitbart had a lot more right to do what he did, then leftist scum have to call normal people racist, which they do because they’re told to and have nothing else to say.
Radosh, change your diapers & toughen up. We are literally at war with leftist scum, now is not the time to show us how delicate & refined you are.
Oh, by the way. I understand most of you will ignore this little tidbit as you ignore all inconvenient truths but please at least read it.
Rich Lowry from NRO:
Jonah, the problem with the audience defense made by your e-mailers is that Sherrod told her listeners this before launching into the white-farmer story:
When I made that commitment [to stay in the South], I was making that commitment to black people, and to black people only. But you know God will show you things, and he’ll put things in your path so that you realize that the struggle is really about poor people.
So, the audience knew what the up-shot of the story was going to be.In a disservice to everyone, Andrew’s source clipped the video to exclude this key introduction, which would have only added about 20 seconds more in length, but an entire world in additional context.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OTRkYmFiYzdkODc5ZTNjNTY0ZmY2NDlmNmMzOGI0ODU=
Brietbart owes no one nothing. The NAACP, the owners of the complete tape, got caught in another attempt at race baiting, to set up the tea party.
After Breitbart released his video clips, one statement from the NAACP would do, “the NAACP has the full tape and is reviewing the situation”. But what statement did they issue, panicked ‘we agree’, which led everybody to naturally conclude the whole tape was much worse. It was a NAACP event after-all.
End of story … but no, the White House confirmed the story when the White House fired her, assuming that the White House knew she was a racists, probably knew it all along since the day she was hired, what more research needed doing.
Straight up, the NAACP is the cause of the debacle, first with the lying charges against the tea party, and then by not doing their own due diligence of a tape on one of their events.
Closer investigation of the “Pigford Case” is called for and explains the rush by this administration to put out the fire with Shirley Sherrod. Her involvement in that scheme and her extraction of taxpayers’ money for herself and others is the real story. This needs to be headline news for a long time. An apology needed? I think not.
“Clearly Sherrod, although she herself had blamed the NAACP for not checking out the small edited video clip, now joined in the same spurious attack on Fox as the civil rights organization previously had done.”
Well, that’s because she’s rather obviously a bigot.
She doesn’t care for white folks (or as she puts it “their kind”) or right wingers too much.
Which is swell…as long as she keeps out of government work. She needs to stick with her all-black farming organization, just like David Duke needs to stick with his all-white social organization. That way the Sherrods and Dukes of the world won’t have power over people they don’t care for.
We don’t need people in government who have such strong prejudices, and are rather obviously unable to overcome them.
Been there done that.
Breitbart didn’t do anything wrong, and she should have been dismissed from her government job.
We don’t need people in government with such strong prejudices? One more big laugh at this place. I will go away, there’s nothing to learn/ glean here. Before I do though I’d like to ask about Bush’s every single appointment? Those were AOK, right? They had to pass a frickin’ ideology test fer goodness’ sake! Again, there is no evidence she is a racist but for the right’s fantasies and the fact she is black which seems to stoke those fantasies. Most of you here and Rush, anyway. Joe Scarborough seems to have a more open mind.
I applaud you and David Frum for standing against this type of manipulation.
Unfortunately, among the entertainment wing of the conservative movement and their sheep, morality is considered a weakness. They’ll cannibalize you for displaying morality.
Ron, I love you man…and Krauthammer too, but I’m not with you and Charles on this one. Who has to apologize to Jesse Jackson for spitting in whitey’s food? The racist as victim schtik doesn’t work all that well anymore.
No apology.. please! Did you not see this woman on CNN? Even now… every word out of her mouth drips of racism and class warfare. Of course, she’s not blaming Obama for firing her.. he’s one of “her own kind” after all. No.. it’s FOX news who needs to be dismantled. If she has a beef, then she needs to get herself a lawyer and sue. She knows how to use her race to milk the cow dry… she’s done it before. Breitbart’s explanation of what he was trying to achieve in releasing the video is enough for me and my family. The audience was LAUGHING, thereby endorsing, her attitude. Obama and his administration.. the worst racists I have ever seen.
Breitbart is the hero in this whole disaster. No one else dares to take on the radials in the leftist movement. I have decided that the only way to keep track of those who feel compelled to aid the leftists in any discussion. I have added Ron Radosh to that list. The Sharrod story needs a lot more investigation, each fact that comes out seems to make it more and more obvious. There are apparently people (that are normally considered to be pro conservative)that want the saga buried-Why is this?
Dr. Radosh,
I see that the sainted Ms. Sherrod is rather glib in her accusation of Breitbart and all of Fox News as racist. With this article you appear to have set a standard. So, as an experiment, let me test that.
1. Is she right, in your opinion, that Breitbart and all of Fox News are racists? If she is not, does she owe Breitbart and all who work for Fox News an apology? If she does, will you demand it on this site with a follow-up column?
2. A full reading of her comments at the NAACP convention suggests that her “moral awakening”, much commented on, consists of this: class not race should be the determining factor in adjudicating her own feelings of resentment (which seem much on display), bias and bigotry. In your opinion, does this constitute a true moral awakening? Given your own journey, and as a historian of the left, you should have some view on this. I do believe you “owe” that to your readers.
3. Given her full remarks, why should a white middle or upper class citizen have any faith that, in her capacity as a government official, she will be “class” neutral in the performance of her duties? (This should be important as you ought to be aware that the signifiers of class have often been confounded with race.)
4. Given her extended remarks and the status she assigns to class in her own thinking, should this be a disqualification from holding the government position she held or the one she may hold in the future? If you think that it is a disqualification, or perhaps should be, then where is the injustice in her removal? In other words, do you think that class-consciousness is a trait that should be tolerated in government employees, knowing that class-consciousness has often, in this country, been confounded with racialism?
Dr. Radosh — Your readers are a collective piece of work; wonder if, in the ’70s, when you were involved with SDUSA, you ever thought you’d writing for a cohort of people who make the John Birch Society seem sane and moderate.
To said readers: For a 62-year-old African-American woman born in Georgia in segregation times whose father was killed by a white man when she was 17 to express to an audience — one which knows the terrain in which she was raised — that 25 years ago she felt ambivalent about offering her services to a white farmer whose manner was “condescending” can hardly be described as racist. Nor is it racist for an audience of African-Americans to understand why she held those sentiments, particularly when seen in the context of their fervent applause for her remark that the real issue is not white-and-black but haves-and-havenots, i.e., class. Where is it writ in stone that someone who holds strong opinions in their youth is not allowed to evolve to a more nuanced view of the world?
The answer to Mr. Surls (“Given her full remarks, why should a white middle or upper class citizen have any faith that, in her capacity as a government official, she will be “class” neutral in the performance of her duties?”) comes from Roger and Eloise Spooner, who state straight-up how effective were Ms. Sherrod’s efforts towards helping them save their farm.
As for Breitbart, his venality, mendacity and near-psychotic behavior are over the top…no surprise he gets so many defenders here.
No, the Spooner’s testimony is not a response to my question. Her decision to help the Spooners was based on her appraisal of class relations. My question stands unanswered because she has chosen to view the world through prism of her past, and class relations – as she conceives of them. What would her response in an official capacity be to those she deems privileged? It’s an open question because she chose to open it.
Has she suffered? Absolutely. Can her past explain her current attitude and world view? Sure. Does it justify? No. Most assuredly she has experienced a moral awakening, but as I wrote elsewhere, it is stunted because her past bears down upon her. Read Dr. Radosh’s follow up to this piece. Victim yes. Saint, no.
If you think that makes me or anyone else holding this view a John Bircher, so be it. Libel clearly comes easily to you.
First, I didn’t call Ms. Sherrod a saint; that’s your formulation. I don’t view the world in a Manichean way.
Nor do I see any self-description in Ms. Sherrod’s remarks of victimhood, or anything to indicate that she views herself that way. She stated the circumstances of her past and her choice to rise above them.
If Ms. Spooner has come to view the world as she does because of her appraisal of class relations, that would seem to refute the notion that she’s a racist. You could call her views analogous to the integrationist, coalitionist strategies followed by MLK-Bayard Rustin-A. Philip Randolph Institute during the ’60s rather than the black nationalist oriented politics of the day. Very different ways of thinking about the world.
Now, most people who don’t have tendencies towards eschatological or ideological totalism would subscribe to the principle that actions trump words or thoughts. Whatever Ms. Sherrod’s motivations or innermost musings, it is indisputable that she helped the Spooners, as you say yourself, “based on her appraisal of class relations.” So I’m not clear where you’re coming from in calling her world view “stunted” because her past inflects it. Whence should her world view emanate? Whose past doesn’t “bear down upon them”?
To wit: Many smart people who either flirted with Marxism or were active socialists, Trotskyites, or Communists in the ’30s and ’40s — Irving Kristol, Norman Podhoretz, Daniel Bell, Max Schachtman (no Communist comes immediately to mind here) — had conversion experiences (evolved their views), and laid the bedrock for today’s much more cynical neocons. Do you think the notions of class relations that dominated their youth didn’t bear upon their writings during the ’60s and ’70s? Class relations had everything to do with the shifts in electoral politics that occurred during the ’70s.
“Odysseus,” you don’t project the paranoid, Bircher tone that a number of the contributors to this thread do — sorry if you felt tarred with that brush. But you do evince a certain moral condescension in your attitude towards Ms. Sherrod that is not becoming.
You end your response, “Libel clearly comes easily to you.” If you think that my description of many of the various contributors to this particular thread as descendants of the John Birch Society is libelous, then I wonder where you think the antecedents of the world view embodied in the political activity — this odd blend of nativist, Christianist, even secessionist (look at Todd Palin’s affiliations), Know-Nothingist strains — of Sarah Palin, J.D. Hayworth, Tom Tancredo, Michelle Bachmann lie, not to mention most of the people who comprise the corporate-sponsored (there’s some class politics for you) “Tea Parties” which so “spontaneously” sprang up out of nowhere.
Point taken. However, and to be brief, it’s not so easy to separate the influences of A. Philip Randolph from Malcom X from Louis Farrakhan (and there is a difference between Malcom X, at least in his later years, and Farrakhan) in a person that few know at all well and the workings of whose mind we know even less. Her experiences would leave mark on anyone. It may seem condescending to you to characterize her moral awakening as stunted – if you prefer something more neutral sounding, call it incomplete – but it is an accurate characterization, in my opinion, as her own remarks since the start of this incident are making clear. Given the same set of circumstances, would I be different? I don’t know. Maybe not.
Yes, I’m fully aware of the role class. But down road of class-consciousness, in this country given its history, lies a trap that’s easy to fall into, particularly given someone with her experiences, I would think, and confounds moral stories like that she told. It’s what I was pointing Prof. Radosh to in the questions I asked. As if on cue, Senator Webb today touches upon this in his WSJ article “Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege”. I don’t think it is at all controversial to note that the concept of White Privilege (a category error and radioactive term I chose to avoid earlier), again in my opinion, informs the moral universe and world view of many to this day. Ms. Sherrod’s? I do indeed wonder given her performance since the breaking of this story.
So when someone claims to have transcended racism, racialism, or merely racialist tendencies through a heightened awareness of class, one should be wary. In his follow-up to this piece, I think Prof. Radosh begins to factor some this into his thoughts.
Wow… and this is the downfall of America. Not race or videotapes, just horrible behavior by people that should be Americans first and “political party’ second… these comments are the bell tolling for poor old America, she’s dying and its our fault.
Who knew it wouldn’t be communism, socialism or the A Bomb, but petty, pathetic Americans that destroyed our Grand Experiment.
I’ll miss you Lady Liberty.
This story is completely ridiculous and goes to show how the extremists control the political discourse in this country. How did this story get so big? Why are media people attempting to “out” low level public employees? Why do we consider something like this a bombshell of a story? We have bigger things to worry about yet the media shoves this down America’s throat. The administration needs to get their PR act together, and right-wing journalist (and left-wing) need to try to uncover real stories instead of this trash. Andrew Breitbart is a joke, if he were in traditional media he would be blacklisted everywhere except for of course Fox News.
The rush to exonerate Sherrod demonstrates how far from fairness our society has fallen.
When she opens her remarks she points out there are plenty of job openings at the USDA and then she laments that ” There are no people of color to fill these jobs “. Is that the race neutral position we should expect from government employees?
When she accuses white Republicans of racism with her statement that, ” We didn’t do the the stuff these Republicans are doing because we have a black President. ” , does that reflect a race neutral mindset?
When she complains that that ” Less than 20 of the 129 employees are people of color ” who work for her in her department is that the fairness in hiring practices we expect from federal employees?
When she complains that part of a black owned farm, which was legally sold, was sold to a white person by stating , ” They got a white man lined up to buy it. ” , is that the kind of person we want paid with federal dollars?
Sherrod seems to do nothing better than speaking out of both sides of her mouth.
While claiming she has learned her learned and moved beyond her racist tendencies the plain truth is that her statements reek of bias.
She has no business being paid with with my tax dollars or yours.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9NcCa_KjXk
Where did you get the idea anyone is required to hold a ‘race neutral’ mindset? They are required (in government) to hold non-discriminatory positions is all I’ve ever known of. Race-neutral is something Rush has planted in his dittohead’s minds. If ever we do get to post-racial, then race-neutral will be appropriate.
Your right Laura. I should have simply said her remarks, about why Republicans don’t support BHO, were those of a bigot.
LauraNo – you promised you were leaving.
There are all kinds of organizations that help people empower themselves.
I would expect that any Govt. Official that is asked to speak at a Hispanic/GLBT/Women/Labor/Filipino/Irish-American etc meeting would offer it up that there are positions available and her example that out of 129 positions that only 20 are people of color shows the lack of diversity in that organization.
Facts is facts and she isn’t allowed to share them?
Since when are we not allowed to promote diversity in the workplace?
You act as tho it would be harmful in some way or that it is negative.
This is worrisome to me and should be worrisome to you.
” Diversity ” is a bogus attempt to sugarcoat a quota system based on color. Should the whites be fired because they don’t meet your color requirements? Or simply not hired?
A federal employee can certainly offer jobs to any group as long as presented in a non-discriminatory fashion. To lament that there ” not enough people of color ” is a moral abomination. The only thing that should matter in hiring is to hire the most qualified. Not the person with the most pigmentation.
What is worrisome is your lack of respect for another human being based upon his or her skin color. Discrimination is wrong regardless of who is doing it or what color their skin is.
Diversity, as Melody and Ms. Sherrod present it, is by definition racialist. Are physical characteristics and sexual orientation alone the definition of diversity? Qualification is seldom presented – and it isn’t here. I suspect that if the numbers sited by Melody were more “balanced” with regard to race, and sexual orientation, she would accept that as evidence of “diversity” without further question. But why? Why are small differences in the human genome signifiers of “diversity”? That is the standard being set by Melody and Ms. Sherrod.
Please look up what diversity actually means before you make up your own definitions and assumptions about it.
Jumping to conclusions about firing people so that others can get jobs isn’t what I was talking about.
Did you watch the video?
She was encouraging people to apply. Do you find that wrong in some way?
And if so why?
It’s just so sad that we can’t have a good conversation about the issues and instead red herrings keep popping up.
“It’s just so sad that we can’t have a good conversation about the issues and instead red herrings keep popping up.”
Then why don’t you start discussing the issue:
The racism of the inherently racist National Association for the Advancement of Colored People evidenced by their reaction in Mr. Breitbart’s video?
Instead you bleat this kind of pablum:
“There are all kinds of organizations that help people empower themselves.”
Although, I would imagine you wouldn’t hold so benign an opinion about the National Association for the Advancement of White People, (David Duke’s outfit), or the Aryan Nation’s Self-Help.
And that would be okay…but let it be a nest of black racists like the NAACP or the Old/New Black Panther Party, and you display the moonbat tendency to stick your fingers in your ears, scratch your brain cell, and start babbling about past discrimination and past slavery and social justice and all the other hive-mind programming that the Liberal sweat-lodge has pumped into your head.
Racism is racism.
Call it what it is.
Andrew Breitbart put it in front of your face, and yet you are desperately grasping at every straw you can think of to avoid the truth of it.
And that is why YOU have become the sub-discussion.
Melody, there is no link to reply to you so I’ll make do with this.
Oh, I’m more than familiar with diversity not only in terms of its dictionary definition but also as working concept in HR. And you? If so, it’s you who have been less than careful. Read again what you’ve written. I only responded to that. If you don’t like the implications drawn then don’t write as you have. It’s as simple as that. I judge you by what you’ve written in multiple posts – no more and no less.
I stand by my description of you as a racialist in your understanding of diversity in the work place, and the totality of Ms. Sherrod’s words gives no reason for me to think her views differ substantially from those you’ve expressed here. Ms. Sherrod has a compelling story to be sure. Ms. Sherrod has experienced racism first hand. You are moved by what you see as a moral awakening. But, it is a stunted one at best as has been borne out by her comments in the video and in her comments since.
That’s my opinion. You clearly disagree. I doubt that will change, which is as much as I plan to say on this topic.
When Obama and Holder apologize to Arizona then I am all for Andrew Breitbart to apologize to Shirley. How about Shirley apologizing to the Tea Party for accusing them of being “mean spirited” at the 30 minute mark in her full tape speech to the NAACP. Also an apology to G.W. Bush for remarks on that same tape. Some mutual respect here, it is not a one sided issue. This President is a racist as are many in his administration.
For the first time in my life, I am ashamed of the conservative movement. Of course, he should apologize. Listen to me, people. Never, ever, under any circumstances, trust someone who cannot admit that he was wrong.
I don’t know how it could be the first time in your life, they do this all the time. Start reading David Frum, Bruce Bartlett, Charles Johnson, Andrew Sullivan or listen to Michael Smerconish. They’ve been embarrassed for a looong time. This thread reads like all the threads that interest the right.
The righties don’t want to let this one go. They got burned but are continuing on in order to validate their initial claims against Sherrod. They are going to get badly burned if they keep this up because they don’t know any of the real history here (i.e. Pigford settlement, etc). In the end they are opening up something that is going to benefit the whole civil rights movement–which has be moribund for 30 years or more.
What they are going to open up is a lot of history that will not benefit the “conservative” side in America, so let them have at it!
What doesnt benefit the Conservative side is that they have entered a completly rigged game. They tried to prove they are not racist..and showed and example of
a racist black lady. The Far Left..chuckled with glee..fired Sherrod and
then let Breitbart and Fox take the blame. Brillant eh? Of course your idiocy
about Conservative people needing to hide their innate racism just plays the same
game too doesnt. Here is how to handle Lefties and their games. Dont apologize
dont try to make them happy or reason with them. They are beyond reason.
Say:
1.SO WHAT?
2. IS THAT ALL?
3 WHAT EXACTLY IS YOUR POINT?
4 GREAT THANKS..GAME OVER. GOODBYE.
I agree with you Praetorian.
What is being pointed out is that many racist have glommed onto the Tea Party Movement because they find themselves accepted there.
What they will find is that many people will be stepping away slowly because it’s out of control.
It’s like when the Anarchists tried to get with the ANTI-WTO folks.
They stood out as hypocrites and were called out.
These racists don’t get called out. They are embraced.
To me, it’s telling that people are blaming Obama for and her boss for firing her without knowing the whole story.
Even Glenn Beck jumped on that bandwagon.
But you know darn well that if they didn’t, if they had given her ‘due process’ that Obama would have been immediately linked to her so called ‘racism’.
Enter Reverand Wright.
Here’s the difference.
When the truth does come out, the victim actually does get an apology and is restored.
The other side just leaves those people in hell.
Look at what was done to Acorn by this same blogger.
That whole pimp thing was a lie because the person reported them.
That whole straw story about Acorn and Voter Fraud when NOT ONE PERSON WAS SHOWN TO HAVE COMMITTED VOTER FRAUD.
When you get paid for signing up Daffy Duck and Mickey Mouse to vote, a vote is never cast.
When you sign up a false name at a fake address, that person never shows up at the polls.
But like I’ve said before.
The truth holds no bearing for some folks.
- What is being pointed out is that many racist have glommed onto the Tea Party Movement…
Really? Is that being “pointed out”? Your use of passive voice is telling. BY WHOM is this being “pointed out”? Surely not by you – you’ve provided no evidence whatsoever to back up this idiotic claim.
There are racists IN EVERY social group. Did you even WATCH the racist reactions to Sherrod’s story? Of course not.
And Sherrod herself is clearly a racist. Watch the full-length video of her speech. EVERYTHING revolves around race and how “black people used to help each other” and references to slavery and on and on and on. THIS IS 2010, NOT 1865, and her entire shtick is a racist, self-congratulating diatribe that simply tells of her journey from unenlightened racist to unrepentant Marxist.
Try to keep up.
You proved my point very well Melody..Thanks. You found definite proof
of racism in the Tea Party. And everything the Tea Partiers do to deny it.
only proves its exists..right? So why should whitey even try? Right?
So why cant we move on to the other things the Tea Party is about beside
racism? Like reduced Govt? Like lower taxes? You can enter into that conversation
cant you Melody? We let you win the racism claim..you won. Congratulations.
Now lets move on..okay?
Melody, So when BHO does something wrong he right because the white bogeyman made him do it? Did you vote fro him because he’s black or because you thought he was qualified?
When Obama does something wrong he does it because he is human.
When Obama does something wrong, he admits to it and apologizes.
I wish the racists hadn’t taken over the Tea Party.
I might even agree with some of the things that they are upset about.
I may have a different solution to them.
I want the Social Security Cap raised. I don’t think that people making over 108,000 a year should not pay more SSI on that higher income.
I don’t want the SSI age raised to 70.
I want Immigration Reform, but I think that the main reason they come here is for jobs and if you fined the people who are exploiting them by hiring them (and they know darn well) that it would greatly stop the problem.
I also want people to put their money where they mouthes are and start buying american stuff made by americans.
But no, the rich want to make more money so they thumb their nose at this great country and send jobs overseas because of their greed.
There is a lot of stuff that we could talk about, but people like Breitbart and FOX news want us hashing out this stuff instead.
Hey Melody..if you believe people should put their money where their
mouth is..will you be a Sponsor for some of these immigrants? Now
Melody ..charity means being charitable with YOUR money not other peoples.
Thats called stealing. Of course when your immigrant goes on welfare,or
ends up in jail..YOU pay..not other people. Thats fair isnt it? Thats
a great opportunity for you to show your willingness to sacrifice..isnt it?
You pay the costs, you dont volunteer other people to pay..Okay?
Sorry “melody”, but the stuff you keep posting here makes you sound like a clueless nine-year old:
- When Obama does something wrong, he admits to it and apologizes.
When was that, exactly? When did he apologize for voting for budgets that ballooned the federal deficit BY AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE? When did he apologize for being COMPLETELY, UTTERLY WRONG about the effects of the so-called “Stimulus”?
- I wish the racists hadn’t taken over the Tea Party.
They haven’t, and you’ve provided not a single sliver of evidence to the contrary.
- I want the Social Security Cap raised.
Maybe you should think about whether Social Security is even Constitutional in the first place.
- I don’t think that people making over 108,000 a year should not pay more…
And who made you the arbiter of who should pay what? How does it make sense to penalize someone for working harder and getting a better-paying job? You do realize that you DESTROY the motivation for doing that when you raise taxes in this way, right?
- I don’t want the SSI age raised to 70.
Better to eliminate SSI altogether. Any idea how many people abuse SSDI by claiming they’re “too depressed”, “too obese” or “too brain-damaged from years of drug abuse” to work? It would blow your mind. The system promotes it because clinics, doctors and drug companies are the ones who ultimately get the benefit $$.
- …if you fined the people who are exploiting them by hiring them (and they know darn well) that it would greatly stop the problem.
There are already fines for this, dear. You don’t seem to realize that it’s cheaper to get caught and pay the fine than it is to hire Union workers who require $75/hr and demand fully-paid health benefits as if they were entitled to them.
- I also want people to put their money where they mouthes are and start buying american stuff made by americans.
Why? American cars are, for instance, largely crap. But even if that were not the case, who are you to dictate what I do with my money? If I want a Samsung TV because it’s less expensive and has better specs than something else, who are you to dictate differently?
- But no, the rich want to make more money so they thumb their nose at this great country and send jobs overseas because of their greed.
WOW!! Talk about UTTERLY CLUELESS. Jobs go overseas BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS MADE IT TOO EXPENSIVE TO DO BUSINESS HERE. They’ve done this through a combination of idiotic regulations, coddling the Unions (in order to buy their votes) and exorbitantly hig taxes – also used to buy votes as they perpetuate bankrupt entitlement programs. All of that will only get worse when ObamaCare kicks in and Cap-&-Tax raises the energy rates by X%. Try to at least make an effort to think these things through.
Acorn stormed banks and forced loans to people that cant pay,
Acorn bankrupted the entire mortgage industry via such loans
Acorn intimidated city councils, corporations, businesses for
“contributions” while threatening mass picketing.
Acorn shipped voters around the country into key districts
to sway votes
Acorn officials scammed millions in union dues and werent prosecuted
And little Melody says that Acorn was about practical jokes and well
meaning fun. Okay
ehunter,
Please provide links to sources that prove all of your statements.
Thank you
People should be able to provide credible sources when they make such accusations.
“credible’ is a key word here.
Melody, they are very prone to conspiracy theories. No amount of common sense can penetrate. But good for you for trying. Big bad ACORN destroyed the world’s economy, hahaha. They stole the election, which is the only explanation for a black man winning. NAACP has ruined the whites lives, they’ve all been jobless the last 40 years I guess. I think it’s a waste of time to try, they have a lot of conservative sources they could learn from but they keep with the same old nonsense as we heard in the 70′s, with a lot more ‘constitution’ crap thrown in (I suppose some of them know how weak their shtick is so they embellish?). Someone upstream even says that McCarthy was right. I mean, how can we possibly have a conversation and learn from each other? We can’t I think.
@LauraNo: - … they are very prone to conspiracy theories.
Right, because as the Journolist and Climategate scandals clearly demonstrated – there’s no such thing as a leftist conspiracy.
Gotta love clueless useful idiots, especially during a season like this one where the summer movies have been anything but entertaining.
Yes, McCarthy was right.
goy:
“Despicable Me” was cute without being overly nauseating, (much).
“Sorcerer’s Apprentice” was fun just watching Disney try to recapture the success it had with the “Pirates of The Caribbean” franchise. You could almost see the coke-nosed pitchman shouting into the cell-phone:
“It’s like Pirates meets Harry Potter, and we can get Nick Cage! What;s not to like?!!!??”
And “Eclipse” wasn’t too bad…for essentially a Chick Flick.
@Bilgemeister:
My brother tells me that Inception is good. We’ll see. The rest will go into my Netflix queue.
Did anyone catch where Ms. Sherrod was told this was going to be or was on Glen Beck? But Glen Beck never ran the video or talked about until long after the full video was released. I don’t really care about apologies because there are so many secret motivations and hidden agendas. Was the hidden agenda just more noise to obsure another hidden agenda? The apology should be to us for all of back alley dealings. My wife changed from Democrat to Republican because she thinks her party is too secretive.
What BS, Breibart doesn’t need to apologize for anything. The whole 45 minutes of Sherrod’s speech is filled with hate, racism, and radical left wing politics.She never should have been hired, is just another race hustler like Sharpton.
Congratulations, Mr. Radosh. Let us defend the rights of a person in a government job that should not exist in the first place, and in a department that exists to extend the power an relevance of permanent government of which she is an enthusiastic supporter.
Yes, we wouldn’t want those jack-booted government workers and agencies denying the right of poor private business and individuals out of their right to screw people out of their Constitutional rights.
“The NAACP is NOT like the tea partiers…”
True. The NAACP is a racist organization, BY DEFINITION. They exist to advance the interests of black people ONLY. The Tea Party isn’t racist in any way, shape or form. All they want to do is reduce the size of government.
Of course, left wing dolts, will NEVER understand any of this, even though it’s patently obvious to anyone with the i.q. of a tree stump, because they’re simply blinded by their moronic ideology to the point where they’re incapable of rational thought, so blind in fact, that they’re incapable of seeing that The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People MUST be a racist organization, while the Tea Party idea has nothing to do with race.
And, dude, you have to seriously blind not to be able to see that one.
Like all lefties.
“What is being pointed out is that many racist have glommed onto the Tea Party Movement…”
No doubt, since it’s non-racial in it’s concept. However, NO ONE can be part of the NAACP unless they want to advance the interests of colored people, because that’s what the NAACP is for. One group, you can be a racist if you want to be, as long as you believe in limited government. The other group though, you HAVE to be a racist. See the difference?
No, of course, you dont.
Silly question on my part.
Mr. Radosh:
Well, come on, Mr. Radosh. If you’ve had time to go read Breitbart’s original post…the source material, as opposed to the blather and bilge ABOUT it, you will have seen that you zigged when you should have zagged.
An apology would be too much, I think, but an acknowledgment that Breitbart was correct and reasonable in what he did and how he did it would be the decent, (and smart), thing to do.
Y’know, I happen to be reading “Blacklisted by History”, about Senator Joseph McCarthy, and it’s striking how what was done to the Senator…for being right…so parallels what is being attempted against Andrew Breitbart.
The worst calumnies are always aimed against those who are the most effective politically.
Bilgeman says that
“The worst calumnies are always aimed against those who are the most effective politically.”
This is just not very good reasoning.
If this were so, by it’s logic everyone who has a group against them are the most effective politically and that definition would include
probably all of the people you don’t like!
Please read my post before responding and saying that I said things I didn’t.
I was telling people to buy American and telling people who hire illegals to start hiring Americans.
Is there a problem with that?
I guess you reap what you sow hey PJM?
The comments on this article are so devoid of any empathy or connection with the human cost of Breitbart’s irresponsible actions, that I’m ashamed of what we’ve become. Tom Perkins! How would you like you job taken away and your life turned into a media joke by doing nothing wrong?
Is the hate you have for others so far reaching that you’ve lost the ability to make rational connections?
Why does Breitbart even bother digging up and editing a video to dsicredit NAACP when your readers obviously need NO provocation for believing whatever fits their rigid view of reality? Apparently you’d be just as happy with whatever lies or distortions your media outlets choose to give you to fit their narratives.
Grow up and learn to think for yourself.
Since you brought up Melody as a fair example of the Far Left why dont
you tell me how far the rational approach works with her? Reason doesnt
work with the Far Left, or the NAACP, or Al Sharpton, or Eric Holder
does it? And no matter how much you try to placate them, or appease them
it JUST DOESNT WORK does it? The demands keep coming. The whole country
has been destroyed trying to make these people happy and evade their
screams of “racism”. So whats the answer? QUIT RESPONDING. QUIT TRYING.
Breitbart made the mistake of trying to catch the NAACP in its hypocrisy
and the NAACP would change its ways. But it never works does it? Because
intellectual consitency is something only white educated people care about.
Why is that Breitbart keeps playing that game? Why do you?
” Because intellectual consitency is something only white educated people care about. ”
We get it. You don’t like Jews. You don’t like blacks. Just what chapter of the Aryan Nations do you belong to?
Thats right Menachem I dont like anyone that pushes the “Victim” button as
a way to get things. Why dont you go play some reruns of Holocaust newsreels
now? Its always worked in the past to get you what you wanted. Jews pushed
the Liberal agenda for decades untli they got Obama. It was great when goy
were being destroyed, but now its Israels turn. Great justice isnt it??
Your comments are despicable and filled with cowardice. Obviously you are one of those who hide behind the keyboard in order to vent the frustrations of a life you simply can’t handle. Crawl back under your rock and stop polluting the atmosphere with your bilge.
Breitbart should not apologize. He showed a partial clip which was available to him about a woman making a speech to the NAACP in which, until she got to the part about changing her mind about her prejudice against whites, the audience was laughing and clapping wildly as long as they thought it was against whites.
The ADMINISTRATION FIRED HER…….. without looking into it further.
Breitbart did not fire her, in fact what would have happened if all he did was show the clip he had? NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nothing would have happened if the administration hadn’t jumped before it looked and fired her.
They could have arranged to see the whole tape BEFORE MAKING A DECISION….but noooo that would have made sense.
God! isn’t there anyone who can still think logically.
Ms. Sherrod is owed an apology by Andrew Breitbart. The clip he showed only hinted at her partial epiphany – that it’s not ALL about black and white. Many conservatives are not comfortable with “one of their own” doing careless collateral damage to an individual in a quest to make a larger point (in this case, about the NAACP).
But there is a different standard on the Left. Michael Moore presented highly misleading footage about lots of people to whom he owes apologies, but he was lionized by the Hollywood Left and was given a place of high honor at the 2004 Democratic convention. When only one side is expected to “play by the rules”, guess which side usually loses?
Breitbart changed that a little, at least for a day. But that doesn’t mean that attempts to repair collateral damage should not be made.
I seem to have struck a nerve here and the bullies are coming after me.
‘clueless nine year old’ and
‘melody this and melody that’
Not even talking about my ideas that I said that I would probably agree with when it comes to the Tea Party.
I didn’t say the Tea Party was racist but I do think that racists have found a welcome home within itt.
The NAACP was quick to oust Sherrod when they thought they were given actual evidence that she was racist. This is something that the Tea Party will not do with the ones who ARE racist and who are an embarrassment.
The NAACP didn’t know that theBreitbart video was cut up and that the commentary that came along with it was untruthful.
It’s a shame that Breitbart tricked so many people into thinking it was a racist speech.
But the true shame lays with people who don’t seek the truth and who have more fun bullying and calling me a clueless nine year old than actually discussing the issues.
(that I already admitted that I might be able to find some common ground with)
If you keep being the board bullies and call me names it will only prove my point.
Would you like to have a decent discussion or not?
Your choice…
I’ve made mine.
Melody , You have played the victim so long it is the only song you know.
Kinda like Jews always play the victim eh Menachem? But who did it to Jews
this time Menachem..who but the Jews? How do you like the Liberal Agenda now eh Menachem? Jews rammed it down white conservatives throat for decades..then when it impingedon Israel..via Obama you began to scream. A bit late now isnt it?
So Menachem where are the Jews going to
go now? Europe..? the Middle East..? Kinda running out of planet arent we?
America is being lost to non white majorities..largely due to Jewish run media and Jewish led liberal immigration. What are you going to do Menachem
ask the Mexicans in LA, or the muslims in Michigan to contribute to Israel?
It seems like
You stand exposed as the bigot you are. Condemned by your own words. You have neither the courage nor the intellect to handle life. Looking for someone to blame for your problems is all that you can do. Rant on dimwit.
- I seem to have struck a nerve here and the bullies are coming after me.
Why is that you leftists only know how to play the victim?
- Not even talking about my ideas that I said that I would probably agree with when it comes to the Tea Party.
Your ideas were addressed, directly.
- I didn’t say the Tea Party was racist …
You wrote – and I quote – “I wish the racists hadn’t taken over the Tea Party.” Can you read your own writing? Are you going to claim someone else posted that?? That’s not “racist element”. It’s not “found a home”. You claim here that racists HAVE TAKEN OVER the Tea Party, yet – just like The Left Wing Media – you provide not one shred of evidence to support this absurd notion. To put it bluntly: you’re full of sh!t.
– The NAACP was quick to oust Sherrod …
Again, you display your complete ignorance. Sherrod wasn’t ousted by the NAACCCP – she’s a government employee, and could not be “ousted” by them. She was denounced by them until they took the time TO WATCH THEIR OWN VIDEO, which they couldn’t be bothered to do before making asses of themselves, at which point they had to retract their original statements. Sherrod was ousted by Obama’s administration – again without the slightest investigation into the facts. Breitbart did not call for her dismissal – the White House did that.
- This is something that the Tea Party will not do with the ones who ARE racist and who are an embarrassment.
Again, you have absolutely no evidence to support this idiotic assertion.
- It’s a shame that Breitbart tricked so many people into thinking it was a racist speech.
It WAS a racist speech! Go watch the video for yourself. It’s nothing but one long lament about how “whites” take the land of “blacks” and how “blacks” need to help eachother, blah, blah, blah. She only comes up for air on the race issue to do a little class-baiting (it’s all about the “poor”). This is no surprise, since she was addressing and organization which is – BY DEFINITION – racist.
Your posts come off like they were written by a clueless nine-year-old. And that point can be made while directly addressing everything you’ve written, which is either factually incorrect of completely lacking any evidence whatsoever. Calling someone a “bully” simply because they point all that out is just… name-calling.
When Sherrod made her remarks about intentionally treating the white farmer improperly, some members in the NAACP audience reacted with approval. Is that not evidence of racism?
Sherrod appeals to blacks to get government jobs because they will never be fired. That is arguably not racist, but it is certainly not something that should be expected of a federal employee, paid with tax dollars. (“Come get the free Obama money!”)
Sherrod purportedly no longer hates white, she just hates producers and wants to confiscate their money to give to the parasites. (She said she realized it’s not about race but “about the poor versus those who have.” Great, she switched “the poor blacks” to “the poor.” She is still a leftist ideologue.)
Interestingly, Sherrod’s husband was a member of the radical Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) in the 1960s, and was involved with Stokely Carmichael and William Ayers. Ella Baker helped to found SNCC. Obama’s former “green jobs czar,” Van Jones, founded the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights in her honor. (Some might speculate that Sherrod quickly resigned to keep the media from looking into any of these connections. Some might also wonder if there is anybody in the Obama administration who doe not have connections to 1960s radical groups.)
…and I guess that means you have made your choice.
Bully away!
I will still be here, waiting to discuss the actual issues.
OK Melody. What’s your definition of diversity and why do you think it is a positive agenda for society?
So Menachem how do you like talking to Melody? Kinda goes nowhere doesnt it.
“People should be inclusive so they can practice diversity so that they
can be diverse and be accepting about being different”
Round and round the squirrel cage the lunatic goes. Talking to her
is a bit like talking to the Far Left itself.
Have to say you’re a hell of a reptile. Most people would feel like taking ten showers after giving such a biased and misleading account of the event. Not you, you owe Breitbart an apology for not being half the disgusting pre-cambrian turd that he is.
Thank you!
According to ehow.com:
Diversity is the inclusion of things, people, and places that are different. For example, having different races, genders, ages, and ethnicities of people in one place is showing great diversity. No one thing or person is the same and is made up of different cultures and backgrounds. Also diversity can be the different opinions of individuals.
I believe it is a positive agenda for people to realize that differences are a reality and that it should be a welcome thing.
I believe that any type of power corrupts and we need to keep as many people involved in every conversation otherwise someone will abuse their power.
This is why I am glad that there isn’t ONE PARTY in the United States. We need each other for the necessary checks and balances that should go in to decision making.
This world would be dull if we all agreed on everything.
Yes the NAACP is a gutter crime organization. It has cause immeasurable
harm. And its #1 crime is to make white people cringe and apologize for
their own culture, history and achievements. And it has done this by forcing mindless relativism down our throats. Sure..make a video showing the NAACP as
hypocrites. But how far does that get us in combatting and overturn what these
Leftist groups have done? Not very far. Will it overturn the destruction
of education in the USA by the NAACP? Will it reject the mindless relativism
the NAACP sponsors..”all cultures are equal” blah blah? No it wont. The only thing
that will stop the NAACP is to quit accepting its egalitarian garbage.
White European culture isnt equal to African culture. Its BETTER. To say otherwise
is to play NAACPs game..and to be certain to lose.
You are right goy.
I did say that the racists have taken the Tea Party over
and that the racists have found a welcome home within the Tea Party.
The reason I say this is because they are allowed to bring their racist signs to the rallies and hold them up proudly, I believe they are asserting their power over the ones who would never agree with their racism.
This is what I meant by take over.
Sorry about that.
I don’t think that the NAACP would like to have anti white signs up at their rallies.
They wanted to ‘denounce’ Sherrod for what they thought was a racist speech.
Also, you claim that her recounting a story that was true was a racist speech.
It was a historical story.
She helped the farmer, He is also standing up for her.
She proved herself not to be a racist and she was proud of herself for not being a racist even tho you might think that someone who had a father killed by a white man might be racist.
Maybe you are using a different definition of racism?
Just because a group is set up to support a group of people does not mean it is a racist group.
There are all kinds of groups in this country.
The American Legion, The Lions, THE VFW, the Sons of Norway, the International Order of Oddfellows and on and on and because they are supportive of each other it doesn’t mean they are racist or discriminatory against other groups.
Hey People..How do you like talking to Melody?
“People should be inclusive so they can practice diversity so that they
can be diverse and be accepting about being different”
Round and round the squirrel cage the lunatic goes. Talking to Melody
is a bit like talking to the Far Left itself. Circular gibberish that means
nothing, and goes nowhere but makes Melody feel good about Melody..at least for
a little while.
- You are right goy. … Sorry about that.
Of course I’m right. And you’ve provided NO evidence to support the idea that “racists” have taken over the Tea Party in any way. None. And the thing you’re apparently not clear on is that anything which amounts to true racism – that is, denigration of ANY race, per se – is met with extreme hostility by Tea Party members. A little quality time with Google will provide instructive case studies.
The thing you’re obviously not to clear on, and apparently have no interest in learning here is this: unlike the Communist Party of America, the Tea Party is a de-centralized movement. ANYONE can call themselves a “Tea Party” organization – just as Mark Williams has done with “Tea Party Express”. Do a little research on that organization – especially recent events – and you’ll soon learn why you can’t paint the entire national Tea Party movement with the label “racist” simply because one member is accused of a racist comment.
- I don’t think that the NAACP would like to have anti white signs up at their rallies.
Well, what you “don’t think” really doesn’t carry much weight. What matters is the evidence, not what you, personally, think they would do. And where are the “anti-black” signs at Tea Party events? So far you have failed to produce any.
- They wanted to ‘denounce’ Sherrod for what they thought was a racist speech.
No, they wanted to scapegoat her because the video showed NAACCCP members agreeing with what appeared to be racist comments. That’s the part you keep willfully ignoring.
- Also, you claim that her recounting a story that was true was a racist speech.
It was. I couldn’t care less if it was “historical” or not. The fact that it was true makes it all the more troubling. This woman still clearly thinks solely in terms of RACE first and social CLASS second. As such – unless this administration is going to come clean on its plans for affirmative action wealth redistribution – she has no business being in charge of doling out a billion dollars in borrowed taxpayers’ money.
- She proved herself not to be a racist …
No, she didn’t prove anything. She made a claim. She essentially told the crowd that she changed from being an unenlightened racist to being an enlightened classist – i.e., that “the struggle is all about the poor”. Here’s a new flash: the “poor” are never going to get anything but the crap end of the stick from people like Sherrod because the system she’s a part of won’t allow it.
With all of the billions in taxpayers’ dollars given to the so-called “poor” that have been poured down the drain in this country, why do you think things never improve for the “poor”? Here’s a clue: there have ALWAYS BEEN poor; there will ALWAYS BE poor. You can’t make them “less poor” by taking money from those who have it and giving it to those who don’t. That’s been happening for decades and it’s made no difference. The only way to MINIMIZE the number of poor people is to support a strong economy where the opportunity for solid employment is maximized and everyone has a job. You do this by reducing corporate and investment taxes, and making it ATTRACTIVE to run a business in the USA where Americans are employed. In order to do that, this government is going to have to cut back on the Trillion$ in entitlements it is keeps handing out to purchase votes.
Unfortunately, right now, the Democrat Congress and this administration are doing everything in their power to DESTROY the economy. So you tell me who’s trying to “help” the “poor”.
My definition of racism is ANYTHING that is inordinately focused on race when it should be focused on society at large or humanity in general – not one particular social group defined by their race. This means that yes, in my estimation, the NAACCCP is a racist organization. They have one goal: to assist one particular race: “Colored People”.
- Just because a group is set up to support a group of people does not mean it is a racist group.
When that group defines itself and its purpose based solely on the RACE Of the people it intends to support then, yes, it’s racist. And we’re not talking about ‘other groups’. We’re talking about the NAACCCP.
A lot of y’all don’t seem to know the meaning of the word ‘racism’. You use it for all kinds of things other than actual racism. It is an attitude not an action. So NAACP is not racist unless you truly believe that they believe one group of people is better than another. If you can claim with a straight face all the tea partiers do not think they are better than blacks, then you can honestly argue that the TP is not racist.
Its typical of the psychosis of today that you can accept such idiocy and not blink. If “racism” is an “attitude” and not a “action”..then there is no reality
to “racism” outside someones private opinions, is there? With..a real
crime.. l.you have a clearly defined “action” that is provable. But since “racism”
is an “attitude”..it isnt defined in an concrete way..outside of what you think it
is…and that depends on your mood, your level of ignorance or the 200,000 hours
spent in front of the liberal TV listening to how race is irrelevant, just a matter
of skin color etc. But even though “racism” cant be defined..and is just a “attitude”..it is nevertheless punished..with loss of job etc. Laura the big mean
word for what you find so acceptable is “WitchHunt”..look it up.
All hail LauraNo, our moonbat sage and Official Keeper of the Unimpeachable Definition of “racism”!
Huzzah!
(Until of course, the liberal hive-mind issues you your daily ration of group-think, and the definition becomes something else entirely).
I thought I told you to flutter off back to the moonbat sweat-lodge. I understand that they’re planning a candle-light vigil outside of Sherrod’s house…and you don’t want to miss the “Kumbayah” chorus, do you?
All you’re doing here is spouting irrelevancies and logical fallacies that fool nobody except little melody, who STILL hasn’t addressed the point of the NAACP’s demonstrated racism.
If she keeps up her obstinate dullardry, I’m going to have conclude that little melody is about as sharp as a bowling ball.
Or as honest as a DemocRat…
If, as you say, the NAACP is such a racist group, why did they invite someone like Sherrod who is not a racist as she has shown by example.
She fought so that a white man would not lose his farm and she is proud of herself for that.
Why would a racist organization honor someone like her?
- If, as you say, the NAACP is such a racist group, why did they invite someone like Sherrod …
Simple. She’s THEIR kind of racist.
…who is not a racist…
According to whom? Her? You’re saying because she dumped this guy off on “one of his own kind” that this absolves her of being a racist? It doesn’t.
If a black woman walked into a bank looking for a loan and the white teller told her, “wait – let me get someone OF YOUR OWN KIND to help you,” that would be racist. No different with Sherrod. That, and her lament over the “loss” of black land ownership shows that she is consumed with a preoccupation with race. Just like the NAACCCP. Racist.
It’s not allowing me to link to posts but that last post was for goy because he had stated that the NAACP is racist. (again)
You are right LauraNo
Many folks here do not know the definition of racism.
Come on Melody..give it a try. Define racism for us..is it something like the opposite of “diversity”? You know
“Racism is about exclusion when Life is about Diversity and being tolerant
of different races. Because racial diversity is the meaning of life and
embracing it is inclusive and accepting of difference”
Hows that? Ya gotta love that Melody..come on!.
She’s endlessly entertaining.
You’re not.
I am glad you enjoy yourself with Melody, because the incoherent
babbling and random emotionalizing is what the left has plenty more
to give you. Since poltiics is about entertainment you should be happy
as long as you dont turn off the TV. But that shouldnt be a problem
should it?
“The NAACP was quick to oust Sherrod when they thought they were given actual evidence that she was racist.”
Baloney. The NAACP is itself a racist organization. You know what the Spingarn Medal is?
It’s an achievement award issued by the NAACP every year, and it can only be won by a black person. You know why that is? It’s because they’re racists, that’s why.
Totally fine with me that they discriminate on the basis of race…that’s their business, but spare me the hogwash about the NAACP being against racism and racial discrimination. They’re not one bit against it, and they practice it within their own organization every single day.
Hint: That’s why they’re called the National Association for the Advancement of COLORED people.
So, if the NAACP wants to complain about something, they need to pick something that they themselves don’t engage in on a constant basis, and as for you…you need to get a whack from the cluebat, honey, because you’re about as clueless as it gets.
“Yes the NAACP is a gutter crime organization.”
That’s just as much baloney from the other side of the fence. They’re basically a self-help organization that’s organized on racial lines. Personally, I find that sort of thing distasteful because I don’t pick my friends and associates based on the color of their skin, and I wouldn’t want to be part of any organization that did pick it’s associates (or award winners) that way, but there’s nothing criminal about the NAACP. Theyre not running around breaking the law.
What they do do is pass resolutions condemning the non-racist Tea Parties, while not passing resolutions against blatantly and overtly racist organizations like the New Black Panther Party, which they do because the NAACP is racist itself, and has essentially no interest in anything that isn’t going to negatively impact black people. But, that’s not criminal, just disgusting.
Goy wrote: “How many times and in how many different ways does he need to say exactly the same thing before it gets past the wax in your ears and overcomes the fact that you never understood what he was reporting in the first place because you couldn’t be bothered to read it? You and Radosh need a remedial course in paying attention.”
So if I post a video and I say, “I am not showing this because it has a person saying racist things, I am posting it because people are cheering racist things and that shows that they should not accuse the Tea Party of racism.” Therefore, I have no responsibility if people call the person on their racist statements, because that is not what I say I was focusing on. And oh yeah, I left out a key part that changes how 90+% of America responds to the clip. Are you so obtuse that you think because a person writes a disclaimer that they are then immune to criticism of what they posted? I heard his complete response on Hannity and it did NOT excuse what he did. It was essentially, “No I will not apologize for the hassle for Miss Sherrod because my clip was aiming at someone else, something else.” This brilliant disclaimer is a game-changer for you. You’re easy….because in this case you need to be easy.
Ignorance isn’t an excuse Dwight. No one needed to knee reaction to sherrod racism… they choose to do it… why? The rest of the tape is dripping with racism/bigotry, the NAACP and obama needed to be “out front” and thus did retarded things…
Ppl who choose to judge before researching all the facts are retarded… and should be made to look like fools… much as Ron Radosh now does for his knee jerk reaction to this.
The problem with the news/press/propaganda today is morons choose to believe whatever some other moron tells them to believe… Classic propaganda lies such as “The dem aren’t racist, The repubs are racist, The tea party is racist, The open border movement is not racist” are just some of the easily debunked lies and propaganda that simple research can show to be lies and propaganda.
- Are you so obtuse that you think because a person writes a disclaimer that they are then immune to criticism of what they posted?
Up above, you wrote – and I quote – “…I did not read what he originally wrote” and immediately prior to that you claimed that his interview response was “[n]ot good enough”.
Those are your words.
The point is that if you never even READ Breitbart’s original statements, your “criticism” regarding his response was completely meaningless, because it was based on willful ignorance – ignorance you appear to be quite proud of. Looks like you’re the one who’s being obtuse… because in this case you need to be obtuse.
As far as whether or not Breitbart should be held “accountable” for posting – unedited – a video excerpt provided to him by a source, that’s up to his readers to decide. And as far as whether the NAACCCP and/or the White House should be held accountable for their knee-jerk reactions in demonizing and firing Sherrod, well that’s something the world will decide.
Breitbart didn’t do anything illegal or unethical. In fact, compared to the tactics that were used to demonize Bush and, later, Sarah Palin, Breitbart’s been downright congenial. And at this point it appears that his report will result in a promotion for Sherrod if she chooses to accept it. Hard to know what your beef is, really.
The left’s problem right now is that they’ve had 40 years of getting their own way, destroying this Republic from within while no one has stood up to them. Well, they’ve crossed some sort of line, apparently, and a LOT of ordinary Americans are just plain pissed. You can label these Americans “racist” if it makes you feel any better, and you can wail about how people like Breitbart should apologize for fighting back. But really, you’re in the wrong century if that’s what you really expect.
Breitbart’s in the end zone. Get used to disappointment.
From my first post on this topic, my position has been that almost everyone screwed up here, including Breitbart. You claim that what Breitbart wrote proves that he did NOT screw up. You are trying to make water flow uphill here to assert that Breitbart covered himself. Hell, listen to the clip of Breitbart on Hannity. Of course, I’m guessing that you hear an adequate explanation; I certainly do not. You believe that anyone who read or heard Breitbart would experience or should experience the cleansing epiphany which you seem to have had… or else they are ignorant. You can keep saying it, but that doesn’t make it so.
But since you believe it so deeply, why don’t you put it in your own words, or quote his, and explain how it works for you.
- From my first post on this topic, my position has been that almost everyone screwed up here, including Breitbart.
Good for you! Problem is, your opinion regarding Breitbart was based on willful ignorance of his position on the issue – an ignorance you freely admitted. That makes your opinion on the matter pretty much insignificant. That you don’t see this is not a surprise. In this case… you can’t afford to see it.
- You claim that what Breitbart wrote proves that he did NOT screw up.
I’ve made no such claim. In fact, no one – least of all you, who never even bothered to read the original report – has made any case whatsoever that he “screwed up”. The White House and the NAACCCP on the other hand…
Breitbart reported on a story that had relevance to the fact that the NAACCCP is constantly whining – without evidence and against all common sense – that the Tea Party is “racist”. The video he posted clearly shows that the NAACCCP’s own members are racists, themselves. He owes no one an apology because he wasn’t acting with malice nor did he act unethically, let alone illegally.
Furthermore, Breitbart could not read the NAACCCP’s hive mind and know that their knee-jerk reaction out of self-preservation would be to attack Sherrod. His focus was on their membership, and he’s been clear and consistent on this point from the start. Again, you’d know this if you’d bothered to educate yourself on the facts.
Breitbart also could not read the White House’s hive mind and know that their knee-jerk reaction – to the revelation that the NAACCCP membership is racist, and that a government employee, who happened to be black, was also making sounds that were very racist-like – would be to throw Sherrod under the bus and force her resignation.
You’re trying to hold Breitbart accountable for the NAACCCP’s screwup when THEY HAD ACCESS TO THE FULL VIDEO, but never bothered to check it before issuing their initial statement. You’re trying to hold Breitbart accountable for the White House’s screwup when they acted without first looking more deeply into the issue.
You want to make this all about Breitbart. Good luck with that. BHO, his administration and the NAACCCP are the ones who look like fools right now. Just learn to live with it.
The Left wants to silence Breitbart based on allegations of editing video to alter the context and meaning of events.
What about Michael Moore who has based his entire career on this ???
Bye bye MM ?
robotech master wrote: Ignorance isn’t an excuse Dwight. No one needed to knee reaction to sherrod racism… they choose to do it… why? The rest of the tape is dripping with racism/bigotry, the NAACP and obama needed to be “out front” and thus did retarded things…
Er, what? You are tying yourself in knots here, to make God knows what point. A knee reaction? What the hell is that; ignorance? You are in no way addressing my point most likely because there is no way one can justify showing the truncated clip, other than ignorance on Breitbart’s part, but then you say that ignorance is no excuse. Take a deep breath and try to get your thoughts into something resembling coherence.
Radosh is reasonable and coherent here; you are not. You are sputtering; he is not.
One man has apologized for the knee jerk reaction by one of his subordinates and had offered to make amends; the man who actually started the whole mess said he “could care less about Shirley Sherrod.”
Lucky for us, whether you want to admit it or not, the right man is our President.
Nice try, dill weed. Next time, instead of lying, try the full quote:
“I have to be honest I’m agnostic on this issue [of Sherrod's firing]. I’m invested in getting the NAACP and the Democratic party and the Congressional Black Caucus to stop constantly calling the Tea Party racist, that’s my job. I could care less about Shirley Sherrod. To be honest this is not about Shirley Sherrod.”
You imply that Breitbart doesn’t care about what happens to her. That’s a clear misrepresentation and you know it (or you would if you had a brain). His intent here is clear: it’s not what SHE did or said that mattered, it was the NAACCCP’s behavior he was concerned with.
As for BHO, he had absolutely no choice but to “express his regrets” (no apology was issue by him), since The Whole World is Watching and much as it will pain you to admit, the “right man” has developed a reputation for being something of a “right screw-up”.
“One man has apologized for the knee jerk reaction by one of his subordinates and had offered to make amends;”
Ahhhh, yes…
That time-honored tradition of the punk-ass manager of all times and places and colors:
“Blame the Staff”
Okay…let’s play!
Which subordinate flunkie had the jerky knee, and what is going to be done to discipline this person?
Doesn’t the public have the right to know?
Doesn’t poor Ms. Sherrod, who only wants to get back to her life of counting her lawsuit winnings from the Feds while drawing a paycheck from the same Feds and collecting awards from racist organizations asuumedly for giving away Fed monies have a right to know who was the shoddy staffer who caused her to have to…(gulp-shudder)…have a 7 minute telephone conversation with the Alleged Hawaiian himself?
This woman is a talking time bomb for the administration. She has been on every liberal national network (CNN,MSNBC,CBS,ABC,NBC,etc.), and becoming more beligerent with every statement. Any individual or media outlet she dislikes the race card is in high gear. I have to think moderates, and especially conservatives are not looking favorably at many of her over the top statements.
This woman is Al Sharpton in drag before he toned down is act.
I feel sorry for Shirley not only was she used by the naacp [her people] but this happens everyday, to people of all races!!
“Many folks here do not know the definition of racism.”
Yup. Left wingers are so brain-washed that they can’t see that the NAACP is a racist organization, even though they obviously are.
At the same time, they think that the Tea Parties are about racism, even though they have nothing to do with race.
The NAACP is about advancing the interests of black people. They ARE RACISTS.
The Tea Parties are about limiting the size of government. That is not racist.
I know this is hard for liberals to grasp (because it goes against a lifetime of brainwashing). Keep working on it, though. The truth is so obvious, that eventually it’s bound to percolate through the brains of some of you lefties.
Why is it that a group that stands up for rights of individuals who happen to be black are deemed racist?
Why is it that a group that invites a woman to speak who stood up for a white farmer when a white lawyer left him in the dust
can be labeled racist?
Who is labeling this group racist and why?
Is it because there are still people that think that black people should not have the same rights as whites?
It would seem so considering many of the posts on this board.
melody:
“Why is it that a group that stands up for rights of individuals who happen to be black are deemed racist?”
Turn it around.
Why is the NAACP okay to the point where any number of sitting elected officials and political candidates fall all over themselves to seek its endorsement, while the National Association for the Advancement of White People is considered a racist “hate” group?
Why is Shirley Sherrod being canonized for her alleged “conversion” from petty racist to discriminatory Marxist,
while David Duke is still excoriated for his time in the Klan, even though he left that organization and disavowed their aims and tactics decades ago?
The answer is that there is a double standard here, and it is blatantly operating against white people.
Take heed of Eric Holder’s words and have the courage to call out black racists for what they are with as much alacrity as you would white racists.
And that means that when someone like Andrew Breitbart clearly demonstrates that black racism exists, both in Shirley Sherrod and the NAACP audience that enjoyed her tale of bigotry, you do not attack him for doing so, but you defend him for it…or at the very least, you defend his right to do so.
Hey…you’re discussing the issue, and we’re having a discussion!
How ’bout that?
“Why is it that a group that stands up for rights of individuals who happen to be black are deemed racist?”
Because discriminating on the basis of race is called racism.
Duh.
Sherrod is not free from guilt on this. She is telling a story that merely shows her rearranging prejudices. The NAACP audience is also not free from guilt–they are loving her judgmental behavior toward whites. The MFM is scrambling to protect her and the NAACP and will keep this story alive for weeks. They won’t report AT ALL on other race issues that don’t favor blacks (you know what I mean). They even “just make stuff up”, a phrase I heard someone make during one of his great oratorical speeches.
“So Fox News as a whole not only came off guilt-free, one of its anchors even blasted Andrew Breitbart.”
What?!!! You cite two examples and then claim that “Fox News as a whole not only came off guilt-free”? That is completely an unsupportable argument which Rachel Maddow destroys in the link below. You do know that O’Reilly called for Sherrod’s resignation. Perino, Hannity and Fox and Friends among many on Fox News claimed and/or suggested Sherrod was a racist – not to mention the news scroller at the bottom of the Fox News screen.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/#38335268
Fox News is one of the most culpable actors here besides Breitbart. Stop trying to whitewash their heavy involvement.
Goy wrote: You want to make this all about Breitbart. Good luck with that. BHO, his administration and the NAACCCP are the ones who look like fools right now. Just learn to live with it.
Er, no. I do not want to make this just about Breitbart since I just said, and you acknowledged that I said that everyone screwed up. YOU want to go on and on how Breitbart did NOT screw up. His “I don’t care about Shirley Sherrod” (and let’s give it the most charitable interpretation,) does not change the fact that he airs a clip which is 95% a woman talking and 5% the audience re-acting, but the 5% is supposedly what it’s all about and how could Sherrod know that O’Reilly and most of the country would pay more attention to what the speaker appeared to be saying than the audience reaction. No, he could not know that the Administration and the NAACP would jumpily throw her off the bus, but he could certainly figure out that EVERYONE was going to hold the SPEAKER accountable for what she appeared to be saying. Somehow I sensed and Beck sensed that there was more to the speech than we were hearing. Breitbart probably sensed that too, but didn’t care. His worse case scenario was that he knew (or knew of) the content of what was left out and omitted it because he knew that it would lessen the effect he was going for. A more charitable scenario is that he could tell that the speech went on (as anyone listening could tell) but did not particularly want to know what else was there, for the same reasons just mentioned.
- Er, no. I do not want to make this just about Breitbart…
Er, then you go on to spew a long run-on paragraph attacking… Breitbart – pretending you are clairvoyant and can second-guess what he knew, what he didn’t know, what he suspected (or should have), etc.
Again – good luck with that.
Breitbart was wrong. Right or wrong, conservatives and libertarians are held to a far higher degree than the socialist media. It’s been this way for many decades. Breitbart was an utter fool for giving socialist elites (MSM, etc.) lurid ammunition to discredit him.
But remember, CNN had a similar situation 20 years ago: Rodney King. At the time CNN aired over and over again for weeks a 6 second clip of an 88 second tape. All context waslost. CNN’s irresponsibility led to the LA riots and the deaths of innocent people. CNN never has had to apologize.
Melody, for the sake of sanity please drop the use of the non sequitur.
Pretty please.
Let me lay something out for you:
1) Ben Jealous established the criteria for the tolerance level for bigotry in an organization when condemning the Tea Party:
“The unanimously passed resolution demanded that the leadership of the Tea Party repudiate its racist elements and make it clear that there is no space in the organization for bigotry.”
“No space”. None. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Zero. As in there may not be ANY.
Again, Ben Jealous established that criteria.
2) In the video, despite Sherrod’s road to Damascus moment, she STILL makes what can only racially tinged remarks “ie, it IS about Black and White”, showing that she still harbors some racial attitudes. You want to debate the merits of that, fine.
3) More to Breitbart’s point, the audience’s reactions to the part where she talks about discriminating against the white farmer were affirmative, expressing agreement and support, something which the NAACP acknowledged in their initial statement:
“The reaction from many in the audience is disturbing. We will be looking into the behavior of NAACP representatives at this local event and take any appropriate action.”
The later relevations on the whole speech on the part of Sherrod does NOT change the circumstances of the audience reaction. They did not know of the “Turning Point” part of the speech as it had not happened yet. They were responding to the part being relayed at that point.
Sorry, but while I understand your complaints, and while I can perhaps agree that Breitbart may have been a little sloppier with this than he should considering the blowback he was likely to get, he does NOT owe an apology. He was right on the merits of his point about racism in the NAACP, particularly since the merit was established by the head of the NAACP. The fact that the mainstream press is now in full blown damage control mode on behalf of them and Obama administration should not obscure that fact.
The NAACP played with the fire of racial politics through the resolution aimed against the Tea Party, part of which relied on lies the mainstream press continues to propagate, and it got burned. Now we should dump on Breitbart because he caught them at their own game and with their own rules?
No, sorry. Examine all the facts, please. Your addendum does not cover this, so please re-examine.
Elliot,
As your first post I think it might have been better spent actually contributing to some part of the conversation rather than trying to limit my free speech.
Feel free to ignore me.
I wrote this
“Because discriminating on the basis of race is called racism.”
and Dave Surls wrote this:
“Because discriminating on the basis of race is called racism. Duh.”
Since discrimination and racism still exist and since DISCRIMINATION is illegal it just seems that, that there will need to be groups such as the
NAACP that will help those who have been discriminated against.
Bilgeman:
As I have said before. The NAACP was denouncing Sherrod for what they believed were racist comments. This shows that they are not a racist organization.
Sherrod did the right thing after all and that was the point of her story.
She helped a white farmer keep his farm when the white lawyer did not.
Again, She helped the white farmer keep his farm when the white lawyer would not.
She did not discriminate against the white farmer. She helped him.
Her speech ended up not being racist and the folks who were applauding her were not applauding racist things.
They were just as proud of her for doing the right thing which is what she did no matter what Breitbart or anyone thinks.
Facts is Facts.
And, likewise, (your) fantasy is fantasy.
The NAACCCP attacked Sherrod for the same reason the White House did – to deflect attention away from their own racist policies. This is likewise the same reason they keep attacking the Tea Party, with no evidence to back up their accusations.
The NAACCCP was terrified that the average person in America would see the reactions of the audience (i.e., NAACCCP members) and recognize what a racist organization they are. So they immediately attacked Sherrod to deflect attention away from themselves.
The White House was – and is – terrified that the average person in America might begin to recognize the affirmative action wealth redistribution (read: racist) policies that are sewn in to almost all of the legislation they’ve recently rammed through Congress. A video of a black federal government employee making what appeared to be racist statements was more than their 30-second attention span could handle, and their knee-jerk reaction was to throw her under the bus by firing her before looking any further.
Great government you’ve got there. Let’s hope the North Koreans don’t see this and start looking for a way to shock BHO into reacting just as hastily and irrationally. His “expressions of regret” won’t matter much then.
melody:
I will let goy be my designated spokesperson in reply, as he does a sterling job of reminding you what Breitbart’s goal was, is, and has been all along.
You could learn a lot from talking with goy, even if in some matters he’s crazier ‘n’ a bedbug in a sleeping bag.
HEY!
Life would be pretty boring if everyone acted perfectly clinically sane ALL the time!!
“Breitbart was wrong.”
No, he wasn’t the least bit wrong. He was just pointing out that it’s the other side that’s racist…which is 100% correct.
Not only is Ms Sherrod an admitted racist, condemned by her own words and acts…but the organization she was speaking to is, in fact, a racist organization (unlike the Tea Parties, which have no racist agenda).
The lefties might not like having their dumb faces rubbed in the fact that it’s THEIR side that is racist…but, there it is.
“Since discrimination and racism still exist…”
Obviously. Groups like the KKK and the NAACP who discriminate on the basis of race still exist.
And, your point is?
106 No, he wasn’t the least bit wrong. He was just pointing out that it’s the other side that’s racist…which is 100% correct.
Good grief.
Having a little trouble dealing with reality, are we?
Reality?
Let’s assume that he “proved” that the other side is racist; hell, I could have told you that. But when you sacrifice some of your own credibility, or maybe the issue is that you lose the respect of the center, because of your lack of judgement, you (he) lose more than you gain (with the center.) You hard core righties, or whatever you are are so much into the koolaid, that it would be ok for Breitbart to do almost anything, IF his intent was one you approved of.
What we have here is Exhibit A for why the majority of folks stay in the center. Both extremes will do crazy things (Rathergate) to prove how duplicitous the other side is, while in the process, proving how crazed they are, as well.
“But when you sacrifice some of your own credibility…”
Well, I guess we’ll just have to wait until you get ready to explain exactly what I or anyone on my side has said that caused us to lose credibility.
Somehow “Good grief” doesn’t convey much of substance.
In the meantime, you might want to look at the endless stream of blithering hogwash coming from the non-hardcore righty side of the issue and consider that in terms of credibilty.
You can start with the absurdity of an organization that is racist by design pointing the finger at gatherings that have nothing to do with race or racism, and loudly condemning said gatherings as…you guessed it, racist! and work your way forward from there.
If there is anything less credible than a group like the NAACP complaining about racism, I’d love to hear what it is.
“Since discrimination and racism still exist and since DISCRIMINATION is illegal…”
Well, it’s not illegal per se. It’s certainly legal to discriminate on the basis of race in some areas. If it was, you couldn’t have things like the Congressional Black Caucus or the NAACP.
I’ll tell you what is illegal, though. If you’re a business operation taking federal money, you aren’t allowed to discriminate on racial grounds, when it comes to the services you provide. For example, if you have a farming cooperative, and you’re recieving federal handouts/loans/whatever, and you refuse to provide assistance to someone because they’re white, not only can you lose your federal funding, but you can also be sued under Title VI of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
“Sec. 2000d. Prohibition against exclusion from participation in, denial of benefits of, and discrimination under federally assisted programs on ground of race, color, or national origin”
“No person in the United States shall, on the ground of race, color, or national origin, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance”
That’s the statute in question, and that’s why Ms. Sherrod and her organization helped that white farmer, even though they obviously weren’t too wild about the idea of helping a white guy.
I’ll tell you exactly what happened wnen that white farmer came to the Federation of Southern Cooperatives Land Assistance Fund looking for help, Sherrod and co. flipped it to their legal advisors and asked if they had to help the guy, and their legal advisors told them that they were required to do so, by law.
So, Ms. Sherrod and her legions of defenders can spare me the little fairy tale about how Ms. Sherrod searched her soul and realized that racism wasn’t the way, and that she then helped the white farmer oput of the goodness of her bigoted little heart. That’s a bunch of crap.
She helped the guy because she had no choice in the matter.
“She helped the guy because she had no choice in the matter.”
Do you have proof of this?
As far as I am concerned, people always have a choice.
And it’s those choices that determine who we are.
OMG! This one should be writing song lyrics – typical pie-in-the-sky platitudes…
as was said on the TOP of the blog page that posted the video…
CONTEXT IS EVERYTHING
That let us know something was up with the video .. which means the he KNEW the video had an issue AND was warning us it did.
“Do you have proof of this?”
Try reading the law. Title VI of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
I just posted the relevant part of it. Something about it you don’t understand?
Sherrod’s organization has been taking federal money ever since it started in the 1960s. They can’t refuse to help someone because they’re white. It’s against the law.
So the little song and dance the lefties are singing (and dancing) about how she nobly overcame her racist feelings is just a bunch of hogwash. She nobly helped the white guy because her group would’ve lost their federal funding and could have been sued under Title VI of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, if they’d followed their racist inclinations, and refused to help the guy.
This is certainly the case, unless there is some special dispensation somewhere in the law that lets black people take federal money and then practice racial discrimination in spite of what Title VI says…which wouldn’t surprise me a bit.
Truth hurts, huh?
So Ron Radosh with yet more racism and bigotry spewing from sherrod are you now ready to admit your wrong? She has yet to shut up and she is just yelling racists ideology from any hill top for all to hear….
Have your sent your letter to breitbart saying your sorry yet? If not best do it soon before you look like a complete idiot.
“Thus, David Frum is correct when he writes: “There will be no apology or statement of regret for distributing a doctored tape to defame and destroy someone.”
Baloney, Radosh. Frum is totally full of crap. Nobody “doctored” anything. All they did was show an EXCERPT of a speech that’s chock full of racism, and left out the parts that weren’t particularly racist.
Nobody’s going to apologize for that. Just like…
“I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side… Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.” -Robert Byrd (D-WV)
…I’m not going to apologize for printing that, an excerpt of a letter Robert Byrd wrote. That’s not “doctored” just because it doesn’t show every word of the letter, it’s simply the portion of a letter that happens to show what a racist Byrd was.
People think that showuing that defames Byrd? Too bad.
People think that showing a portion of a video that shows what a racist Sherrod was (and, obviously still is) defames her? Tough. She brought it on herself.
If you’re going to go around making racist remarks and admit that you’ve practiced racial discrimination, then don’t start whining and demanding an apology when someone shows the video of you doing it…’cause you ain’t going to get one.
If “doctored” has to mean changed then maybe it is not the right word, but when someone decided to stop the tape at that particular point, WHEN letting it run just another 30 seconds would have made a majority of the people change their perception of what she said, I would say that the “editing” is duplicitous, but then, everyone already knows that. A few of you think that is ok, anyway because he was serving a higher cause, but most clear thinking people do NOT.
Oops.
Apparently, the “clear thinking” people were the ones who actually paid attention to what was originally reported, rather than falling in line with the subsequent slander and libel aimed at Breitbart for no reason other than to pursue a partisan political agenda, ultimately aimed at discrediting and marginalizing the Tea Party.
Apology, HELL NO, this woman is dirty – dirty – dirty —–
Apologize? You may want to watch this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrcJ3cBDS7Y&feature=player_embedded) of Mrs. Sherrod’s racist husband talking about Whitey and Uncle Tom’s before you condemn Mr. Breitbart. Seems Mr. Sherrod had strong ties to the Black Panthers back in the day, and now he’s preaching Black Liberation Theology to prisoners and other budding revolutionaries.