John Mearsheimer’s Latest Disgrace: He Reveals His Deep Anti-Semitism
John Mearsheimer has stooped to new lows since writing The Israel Lobby with his co-author Stephen Walt. From being known as an eminent political thinker of the “realist” school — once associated with scholars of note like the late Hans Morgenthau — Mearsheimer now associates himself with certified crackpots, the kind of people who do not even try to hide their blatant anti-Semitism.
When their book was published, a debate ensued over whether or not it was proper to call it anti-Semitic, or whether it should simply be attacked as it was by most commentators as an over-the-top argument about AIPAC’s control of American foreign policy. Virtually all mainstream reviews in the United States panned the book. One of the most devastating critiques was by Walter Russell Mead, who wrote that although he did not think the authors were anti-Semitic, they wrote a book that anti-Semites would love. Mead continued:
The authors do what anti-Semites have always done: they overstate the power of Jews. Although Mearsheimer and Walt make an effort to distinguish their work from anti-Semitic tracts, the picture they paint calls up some of the ugliest stereotypes in anti-Semitic discourse.
In the Wall Street Journal, Jeff Robbins argued that Mearsheimer and Walt might deny they are anti-Semites, but since they “devote themselves to criticizing American Jews for lobbying their public officials in support of the Jewish state, one may legitimately wonder what phrase would apply.” Their disclaimer that they are not anti-Semites, he concluded, “lack[s] a certain credibility.”
Mearsheimer’s recent speech to the Palestine Center in Washington, D.C., on April 29 shows that the question of whether or not he can be called anti-Semitic is no longer up for debate. Moreover, the lecture honored the late Hisham B. Sharabi, a man whom Martin Peretz notes was actually “an Arab fascist,” a member of the Syrian Social Nationalist Party.
Mearsheimer then turned it over for publication on the Monthly Review magazine’s website, where you can read it in its entirety. That journal is not exactly where one expects a noted academic realist to publish. Those of us who came from the ranks of the American Left know it quite well. Indeed, many, many years ago, I used to write for it. It was started by the late Marxists Paul M. Sweezy and Leo Huberman, as what they called “an independent socialist magazine,” but quickly descended into a leading intellectual center of apologia for Third World totalitarians — from Castro in Cuba to Mao in China.
Particularly objectionable is the argument Mearsheimer develops towards the end of his lecture. He proclaims that there are three kind of Jews who care about Israel. According to this expert, they are the “righteous Jews,” the “new Afrikaners” and a third group constituting the majority who supposedly stand between them. These people care about Israel but do not have clear-cut views on how to think about the Jewish state. He deems them the “great ambivalent middle.”
Here is how he defines the first group:
To give you a better sense of what I mean when I use the term righteous Jews, let me give you some names of people and organizations that I would put in this category. The list would include Noam Chomsky, Roger Cohen, Richard Falk, Norman Finkelstein, Tony Judt, Tony Karon, Naomi Klein, MJ Rosenberg, Sara Roy, and Philip Weiss of Mondoweiss fame, just to name a few. I would also include many of the individuals associated with J Street and everyone associated with Jewish Voice for Peace, as well as distinguished international figures such as Judge Richard Goldstone. Furthermore, I would apply the label to the many American Jews who work for different human rights organizations, such as Kenneth Roth of Human Rights Watch.
Let us pause a moment and ask the question: Can he be serious? Norman Finkelstein is the most well known Jewish huckster, a man whom the scholar Omar Bartov calls “a lone ranger with holy mission — to unmask an evil Judeo-Zionist conspiracy.” This is how Bartov describes Finkelstein’s thesis:
The gist of his argument is simple: Had the Jews and the Zionists not had the Holocaust already, they would have had to invent it. Indeed, for all intents and purposes, this is precisely what they have done, in the form of ”The Holocaust,” despite the distracting fact that, once upon a time, such an event actually took place. And why was ”The Holocaust” fabricated? Because it legitimizes ”one of the world’s most formidable military powers,” Israel, allowing it to ”cast itself as a ‘victim’ state,” and because it provides ”the most successful ethnic group in the United States,” the Jews, with ”immunity to criticism,” leading to ”the moral corruptions that typically attend” such immunity.
Given such views, it does not come as a shock to learn that Finkelstein accepted Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s invitation to the now infamous Holocaust denial conference. Yet this man is cited without irony by Mearsheimer as a “righteous Jew.” Evidently, any Jew who is opposed to Israel’s existence is by definition righteous — even if he is such an evident crank as Norman Finkelstein. Mearsheimer’s other names are a coterie of Israel bashers, anti-American leftists like Noam Chomsky and Richard Falk, or intellectuals and writers like M.J. Rosenberg and Tony Judt, who see a Jewish state as a tragic mistake that should never have been created.
Those whom he disapproves of, he terms the “new Afrikaners,” since in Mearsheimer’s eyes, they are ipso facto supporters of a new apartheid Israel. He proclaims:
These are individuals who will back Israel no matter what it does, because they have blind loyalty to the Jewish state….I would classify most of the individuals who head the Israel lobby’s major organizations as new Afrikaners. That list would include Abraham Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League, David Harris of the American Jewish Committee, Malcolm Hoenlein of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, Ronald Lauder of the World Jewish Congress, and Morton Klein of the Zionist Organization of America, just to name some of the more prominent ones. I would also include businessmen like Sheldon Adelson, Lester Crown, and Mortimer Zuckerman as well as media personalities like Fred Hiatt and Charles Krauthammer of the Washington Post, Bret Stephens of the Wall Street Journal, and Martin Peretz of the New Republic.
Anyone familiar with his list knows, as Mearsheimer evidently does not, that these individuals have different perspectives and views on many issues pertaining to Israel and its policies. Some are opposed to many of Israel’s settlements; others are not. Peretz, for example, comes from a Labor Zionist tradition and regularly expresses his opposition to many of the policies of the Israeli right; others like Morton Klein are on the right of the spectrum on Israeli political issues, as is Sheldon Adelson. Others like David Harris can be considered centrists in tune with the majority of American Jewish opinion. Mearsheimer groups them all together and ignores all differences. What is important to him is that they all support the existence of Israel and do not favor the kind of solutions for the Middle East he proposes.
As for Mearsheimer’s analysis, I second the point made by David Bernstein, who writes that “the scholarly content of the piece is a joke.” Mearsheimer writes as if it is only Israel that stands in the way of the Palestinians having their own state. There is not one word about the Palestinians’ continual rejection of every opportunity given it to have such a state, from the UN Partition resolution in November of 1947 to the last offer by former Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, when the Palestinian negotiators turned down the most magnanimous offer by Israel ever presented to them.
In fact, as David Bernstein points out, recent Israeli polls show that Palestinians — not Israelis — reject a two-state solution — 66.7 percent of Palestinians said they are against it. And the contrary is also true. Israelis overwhelmingly back a two-state solution, something never acknowledged by Mearsheimer.
So Mearsheimer argues that there will be no two-state solution because of Israel’s intransigence, leaving only one result: “an apartheid state dominated by Israeli Jews.” American pressure could force it, but as we know he already believes, it cannot — because of the great power of the Israel lobby! Any American president, he writes, finds it “impossible” to “play hardball with Israel.” I guess Mearsheimer has not stopped to explain the current turn in policy against Israel by President Barack Obama, whom so many have criticized for just this misguided approach. He is correct though when he says that during the campaign, Obama responded to those who feared he might be soft on Israel by “pandering” and praising the “special relationship” between the two countries. Indeed, Obama continues to do that today — while moving ahead with a policy that gives the lie to his words.
So in effect, what John Mearsheimer predicts (or possibly hopes for) is that there will be an apartheid state, at which point the liberalism of American Jews will prevail and they will turn against Israel, putting their liberalism and values first and their concern for Israel second. Then, the great and all powerful Israel lobby will find it is ineffective, and its membership will quickly fall away. (Of course Jimmy Carter argues it already is an apartheid state; Mearsheimer differs only in that he says it soon will become one.) The so-called “Afrikaners” will then lose their influence, since American Jews will no longer listen to them.
Mearsheimer ends with what he hopes will be the outcome: “a democratic bi-national state,” the kind of solution already advocated by Tony Judt, the editors of The Nation and The New York Review of Books, and other left-liberal intellectuals. That “solution,” of course, might sound good to them, but won’t work. In effect it means a Palestinian state with a Jewish minority, that will quickly move — as its leaders promise time and again — to rid the state of Jews and to treat them as the Arab states have in the past and the present — as a minority with few rights, bound to accept either subjugation or Islamic law if Hamas gains the upper hand.
At any rate, John Mearsheimer has taken off the gloves. For a while, he and Walt tried to pretend they were friends of Israel and trying to save the country from itself. Now Mearsheimer, as one writer has pointed out, sounds much like the Charles Lindbergh of America First. No wonder his writing now appears in publications like the Buchananite American Conservative and the Marxist Monthly Review. That is the appropriate venue for thinkers far outside the American mainstream.






Thank you, Professor Radosh. The very existence of this sorry excuse for a human being and so-called “scholar” makes me want to puke. On him. At very close range. When I was in Chicago last August, staying with a University of Chicago colleague of his, my host pointed out Mearsheimer’s house to me, as we walked through Hyde Park. I took the opportunity to spit on his doormat, hoping he’d open the door so I could give him a very tiny piece of my mind. He didn’t.
I was raised to be a lady, but scum like this makes my blood boil.
He should be shunned, as should Walt, by all civilized venues, publications, and publishers on earth. The fact that FOREIGN POLICY regularly runs pieces by Walt should make FP shunned by all writers and readers. Its readership, already small, should now be at zero, thanks to giving Walt a platform. Thank you for shining the light of your intellect on this despicable, dreadful turd.
Although it’s understandable to want to respond to the fantasies and fabrications of this creature, it’s what he’s hoping for. His prior screed has melted into the oceans of other ugly anti-semitic writings and is no longer getting the attention it once did, so he’s attempting to revive his own importance via this new and more vicious attack.
It’s the outraged and disgusted replies to his valueless writings that moves him into public notice. He’s nothing special, but has gotten too much attention.
Don’t fall for his game.
Don’t give him what he wants.
It’s best just to ignore him so that he’ll just take his place along with all the other nameless, nothing haters where he belongs.
Aqua: Ignoring the fundamental theses that ground Mearsheimer’s comments led to past catastrophic failure. There is a large audience for the ideas he espouses. What should alarm is that he has felt this all along but now feels comfortable to openly express himself. What has changed?
What has changed?
The anti-semites are in power now, so the other roaches feel that it is safe to come out into the light.
are there any left behind the walls, is my question. these dung carrying cockroaches are swarming all over the place. and you know who we have to thank for this. gee, barry, look what happened while you were self-pleasuring morning, noon and night.
anti-semites. they do hate us. we are smarter. that’s just how it is. when you’re low and twisted and hopeless you have to find someone to blame, someone to kill, or you would have to kill yourself. it would be good to put them out of their misery.
Odysseus. My point is that the “large audience” for what he espouses was large largely because of all the many, many, many articles written to counter his ideas. This brought his arguments from academic circles into the general population — with a catchy sound bite title.
There is (was) a much smaller audience before that, composed of those who agree with him to begin with, and whose opinions are hardened.
I understand the pressure about past catastrophic failure, but this is not the same. It’s a hard choice to make.
“What has changed?”
“That is the appropriate venue for thinkers far outside the American mainstream.”
“Mearsheimer writes as if it is only Israel that stands in the way of the Palestinians having their own state.”
Somebody obviously has not been paying attention. John Mearsheimer is simply a bit more blunt—but his position is implicitly that of mainstream Democrats and “moderate” Republicans. This has been the situation minimally since the Clinton administration. Things have gotten even worse since the election of Barack Obama. It’s guys like Ron Radosh who represent so-called radical opinion.
One must learn to read between the lines. When push comes to shove, the elites believe white Israelis are crapping on the darker skin Palestinians. And please don’t anybody point out that some Jewish Israelis are black Africans. That’s not the way the allegedly sophisticated elites perceive the matter. Postmodernist thinking is not logically consistent.
Actually, the Palestinian Arabs are lighter than most Israelis, the Bedouin are darker. But the Arabs are racists, they call blacks ”Abeed”, meaning slave in Arabic. Over 50% of Israelis are descended from Jews expelled from Muslim countries. Add in the Ethiopian Jews & Jews from India. Israel has a very hetereogenous population, as much diversity as the U.S. There are even a few Chinese Jews & a number of very Asian-looking Jews from India (Bnei Menashe).
So it’s not skin colour – it’s the fact that we are Western in culture, in life-style, in our values. This is what the Left (& Muslims) hate about us.
I am talking about how the politically correct establishment perceives the matter. It is about skin color, first, last, and foremost with the left. That is just the way it is. It is admittedly not logical. The leftist community considers the Western World to be exclusively white and continuously crapping on the darker skin victims of the Third World. As matter of fact, it routinely charges the Israeli Jews with racism. This has been going on for decades.
I’m not disagreeing with you, the Left is obsessed with ”race” – they have so few rational arguments & in our ever-so politically correct culture, this is an effective weapon to slander anyone who disagrees with them. We have plenty of lunatics over here & they use the same tactics. I was merely pointing out that in reality, Israeli society is the opposite of what we are accused of. If you want to find real racism, the Arab world is the place to look.
We have our ”ethnic” frictions, to be sure – given the diversity of our population, it would be unrealistic not to expect some such friction.
Nonetheless, the hostility to Israel (and Jews in general) is more complex than merely the ”racial” aspect.
And to the point of this article, what is disturbing is the mainstreaming of anti-Semitism under the guise of anti-Zionism that Mearsheimer represents.
“what is disturbing is the mainstreaming of anti-Semitism under the guise of anti-Zionism that Mearsheimer represents.”
I’m currently reading Robert Wistrich’s book “A Lethal Obsession, Anti-semitism from Angiquity to the Global Jihad”. Wistrich carefully documents exactly how mainstream anti-semitism has always been, including the period immediately following WWII. It went underground, but it never diminished. The trumped up racism charge simply gives a veneer of respectability to anti-semitism by another name, so it’s out of the closet once more, especially among so-called intellectuals. Anyone who thinks anti-semitism (which is nothing more than the racist form of old-fashioned Jew hatred) can be eliminated through education ought to consider one thing: Germany was the first nation in the world to achieve universal literacy.
Terry, You hit the nail on the head. The guilt of being white and properous causes this insanity.
Mearsheimer’s potent case for Judenrein will echo loudest in the executive branch.
Correct that his views are outside the general American mainstream, but they are well within the mainstream of academic “progressivism.”
I assume even Mersheimer is not claiming that Israeli Arabs are limited to certain areas of residence,barred from certain occupations, or required to carry more or different identification than Israelis in general. These are the chief hallmarks of apartheid in South Africa. Therefore if he actually thought carefully about what he was saying, he would be in effect granting Israeli sovereignty over the disputed territories, since the residents of those areas are the ones whose movement in and out of Israel is limited.
There are countries in the Middle East that limit the movement, residence, and occupational opportunities of Palestinians, but they’re most of the Arab countries–in Lebanon, for example, I have read that there are some seventy jobs from which Palestinians are barred.
This is one reason why the “apartheid” charge is particularly vicious and noxious–it’s not an exaggeration of some Israeli policy or practice, it is a reversal of the truth.
It would be interesting to know if Mearsheimer considers the people who run CAIR as good moslems or bad moslems. Are their pious moslems or moslem afrikaners? Same goes for PLO leadership. The public demands to know.
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Hey Mearsheimer,
Perhaps to make things easier we should make Jews carry around ID cards so we can identify which kind they are. Even better, perhaps they should wear a distinctive article of clothing. Hey, maybe a star of David! Yeah, that’s it. We can make Jews wear a star of David – maybe a bright yellow one so that they can be identified from afar. Even better, lets ban them from certain professions or neighbourhoods and prevent them from hooking up with the regular folk. Lets even pass some laws and call them after a certain town in Germany.
As the French say (and they should know..) plus ça change..
DD
I guess it has to be said, but i figured out they were anti-semitic idiots the first time they asserted a jewish cabal existed. everything else was gravy.
The really scary thing is; that this man was a big influence on Gen. David Petreaus. This man even helped the General write his master thesis, if I am not mistaken. I have the upmost respect for Gen Petreaus and his strategy in Irag. However, when these influences come to light it makes me wonder if his strategy will work in the long run. It also gives credence to Diane Wests’ criticism of Gen. Petreaus. This also, helps illustrate how are country continually moves more to the left; and how the military would allow someone like Nidal Hassan Malik to stay in service and give him the chance to kill our unsuspecting soilders.
This is a wonderful article. I can endorse every word of it. Has anyone asked Jimmy (Peanut) Carter why he would criticize Israel as an apartheid state when every Muslim state in the Middle East is a multiply apartheid state. Each and every one of those Muslim states practices apartheid against non-Muslims and all women. There is an iconic cartoon from the late Seventies. In the first panel, George Washington says “I cannot tell a lie.” In the second, Richard Nixon says “I cannot tell the truth.” In the third, Jimmy’s huge toothy grin says “I cannot tell the difference.”
I’m not Jewish, I’m a Christian and here’s the bottom line from someone who deeply cares about Israel and her existence: Jews are suicidal, and have a self-hating attitude that no other ethnic group that I know does. This doesn’t bode well for the long term viability of the Jewish State, and this is largely unrelated to the Arab-Muslim-Palestinian angle to this problem.
However, there’s also another reason why the existence of Israel is in peril.
In population dynamics, from mathematical ecology, competitive exclusion is a common long term dynamically stable outcome, where polulation size (more importantly, population growth rates) is the key determining force and outcome. The population group which has a constant but higher growth rate than the other group, ends up dominating and eliminating the other group the population of which eventually collapses.
If the West, including America, allows the muslim demographic bomb to explode, as it currently does, nothing in the long run will prevent the muslims from taking over the West, including America. We know that, they know that. The question is, is the West going to do anything about it? So far, the “liberal/democratic” views prevailing in the West indicate that the “do nothing and accept what is coming” attitude is/has prevailing/prevailed.
Thus, liberalism and democracy are self-destructive in the long run for a very simple reason: when two groups interact (one adopting a liberal/democratic view, the other seeking to destroy liberalism/democracy) and these two groups have different growth rates (a slower on and a faster one respectively) given enough time there comes a point when the majority in a population group turns against these two ideas, and by democratic means democracy dies out.
Now, let me make a couple of exit points: islam isn’t a religion, but a violent socio-political movement which, since the 6th century AD, is spreading around the globe almost unabated. If the West and America isn’t going to confront it because it’s liberal/democratic “values” won’t allow such a confrontation, then we might turn the lights off and I think pretty much that’s what we did on 11/04/08.
correction, secular jews are suicidal
those with a strong jewish identity are not.
and it is those who have a high birth rate
in 50 years, if we are all still here, it will be those jews who will be in the minority, with secular jews becoming extinct
Secular Jews are suicidal? It depends on their education. Most of the secular “Jewish” intellectuals I know, and there are many, have been upwardly mobile or had red parents. To assimilate fully in America is to accept the often subtle antisemitism that is pervasive. And some orthodox Jews have rejected the secular ones, with rejectionist comments like yours. Years ago, I started to study Jewish history and the founding of Israel. Jews have always been divided along cultural and political lines, yet we persist. Please do not, in the name of identity, prolong those divisions. If the worst were to happen, we would all be wearing arm bands with the star of david in yellow. And you might try coming out from behind the mask if you are really orthodox and not a troll.
A clarification is needed: when I used the term “suicidal” I should have qualified it as “collectively” not “individually” so. I have absolutely no evidence that each Jew is “suicidal,” and I apologize for the ommission.
Furthermore, this “collectively suicidal” behavior is manifested in the within-group deep and vicious animosity that exists (see the lead article above and all its references, for example), pushing one group into alliances with even mortal enemies of the Jewish State (even with the radical Palestinians). This within-group enmity and its intensity are unparallel when compared with other ethnic groups’ almost mortal fratricidal behavior.
GHT,
there are plenty of self-hating Westerners, Jews are merely part of the problem. While agreeing with what you say, I do point out that many Jews are self-hating becasue they take live among non-Jews who also constantly criticise them , use them as scapegoats and generally blame them for anything that goes wrong. Most of these people are called Christians.
Much of the antiSemitic garbage has come from the Church, in all its branches. The hateful “replacement theology” which posits Christians as the new Jews and therefore solely deserving of the Holy Land is simply one of the rhetorical devices by which the Church has sought to demonise Jews.
Accusing Jews of killing Jesus, demonising and ghettoising Jews and massacring Jews over the centuries has not helped Jews believe in their safety in the world. The contempt that the Church has for Jews who do not wish to join the Chrurch and therefore reject Your Lord Jesus Christ has a been a call down the ages to despise and kill Jews.
When Jews try to defend themselves they are criticised. When they don’t they are despised.
As a Chrisitian you will be aware that Christians are being massacred all over the world by feral Muslims. Get them guns and help them defend themselves.
The ONLY country to defend itself against feral Muslims is Israel, and while some Christians are defending and standing up for Israel, a hell of a lot of them are not, and are actively aiding the Arab Muslims in squashing Jews and Israel.
So, as a Christian, how’s about you start standing up for what’s right and helping to defend the people who gave birth to Jesus and whose
precepts you presumably (since you identify as Christian) live by?
You can start by talking to your Church leaders and demand they stop supporting terrorists by preaching anti-Israel hatred in the churches, start defending Jews who are assaulted by Christians and Muslims and get over the fact that Jews are Jews and don’t want to be Christians no matter how cute Christmas is!
Cheers.
I watched Dr. Mearsheimer’s speech on video and found it
to be the truth, only the truth, and nothing but the truth. Zionists, in their hearts, know Dr. Mearsheimer
speaks only the truth and hate him for it.
I’m a secular Jew, and a Zionist, and I know, in my heart of hearts, that Mearsheimer is an anti Semite of the highest calibre and a human of the lowest, and that based on history, documentation and rhetorical analysis that he is a liar.
You, madam, are simply a nasty little tool of hatred, one of the many Mearsheimer and his ilk manage to fool because you like to be fooled.
“in their hearts, know Dr. Mearsheimer
speaks only the truth and hate him for it.”
Sure, Lilly, sure. I got news for you — we’ve heard it before, from the church, from the America First gang and Father Coughlin, Nazis, from the Soviet Communists, ad nauseam. Only this time instead of Christ Killers, blood suckers, war mongers and international bankers, or rootless cosmopolitans, you call us defenders of apartheid, and instead of Jews you call us Zionists. But the lies, the smears and the thinly veiled accusations of treason and exploitation are still there.
Hate him for it? I’m too nauseated by him to hate him for it. Don’t worry; if he doesn’t pay in this world, he’l pay in the next.
great critique
however, i do not believe that finkelstein ever attended the holocaust denier conference
he was too busy hobnobbing with hezbollah
wonder why mearshimer didnt include the neturai karta in his “righteous jews” list?
I’m curious about Mearsheimer and Walt’s ethnics. Their rant has a an old, pre-WWII Bundist ring. Are these the descendants of those German Americans and Irish American fellow travelers who claimed to be American patriots while supporting Nazi Germany and Hitler?
After Pearl Harbor, the FBI were able to track down a number of these fifth columnists and arrest them for treason. The FBI knew the identities of many of these traitors not through the bureau’s own initiative but through that of individual citizens.
The Nazi Bundist leadership was mainly centered in New York and they often held rallies on Long Island. Local Long Island residents were disturbed by the large, well organized Roman Catholic outdoor rallies where stars and stripes mixed easily with swastikas and iron crosses.
On their own initiative, Christian church groups and boy scout troops fanned out among the visitors’ parked cars during rallies and copied down license numbers which they turned over to the FBI.
A generation earlier, before WWI, a fifth column of the same general ethnicity–mainly German catholics supported by Irish Catholic fellow travelers–supported Germany and opposed England and America’s entry into WWI.
During the Civil War half a century earlier, a treasonous fifth column made up mainly of Irish Catholics, fully seventy thousand strong and well organized raised Confederate flags over New York and for three days pursued, raped, tortured, mutilated, lynched and burned African Americans in the North’s largest industrial city.
So I ask, who and what are Mearsheim and Walt who obsess about Jews and accuse those who love Israel of being a fifth column? Are they German American? German-Irish American? Are they Catholic?
What makes Mearsheim and Walt think that Jewish Americans with a special affection for Israel are more prone to dual loyalty than Catholic Americans with a special affection for Germany or Ireland? Is treasonous German and Irish Catholic behavior in American history so quickly forgotten?
It was not so very long ago that words like papist and popery were common and accusations of dual loyalty to the Prince of Darkness in Rome tarnished every Catholic American’s patriotism. Nor so very long ago that the NINA signs came down. You might think Mearsheimer and Walt would be ashamed.
But that type never is.
As an American Jew, I’m pretty happy that John Mearsheimer recognizes that most of us would not support a clearly apartheid state, despite some of our loudest voices claiming that the Palestinians deserve their oppression. Given Israel’s refusal to take the most obvious steps toward a 2-state solution, halting settlement growth, and the sizable minority of Israelis, including some of my cousins, who believe that God gave them the right to rule all of the West Bank, Mearsheimer’s conclusion that Israel is headed toward apartheid in the medium term seems irrefutable.
Given your lack of a counter-argument, of course you stoop to the tired ad-hominem attack of anti-semitism. It’s getting a little old, guys.
DO you seriously believe that the Palestinians can run a state of their own on the border with Israel and live by it in peace?Certainly not with the current crop of PLO leaders.Forget it dont bother answering since i already know your same boring answer that has been spouted for the last 20 years.Israel wins the Sinai from egypt and is forced to return it.It gains land from Lebanon(due to terror proxy groups lobbing more ammo across the border) and is forced again to return it.It cedes Gaza to the PLO in exchange for peace and gets 8 years of more rocket fire across its border.Its the only country in the world that actually notifies the enemy population of when and where it will be attacking in the 2009 Gaza war.This from a strategic point of view is unprecendented in warfare.Good thing cameras track Hamas’ movements thanks to infrared and other high tech equipment.
No thats enough B.S. from the Islamic fanatical horde thank you very much.
So you’re rooting for apartheid then?
Do you really believe that if Israel vacated the West Bank tomorrow there would be even the slightest chance of peace? There is no need to speculate since the experiment has already been done. Israel completely vacated Gaza even leaving a considerable infrastructure in place. What happened? Was there peace? No. Hamas took over, brutally oppressing its Palestinian opposition and then started lobbing rockets over to Israel. Is there any reason to think the same thing wouldn’t happen in the West Bank? Well? Is there?
So, what is the solution? The first step is to recognize the problem. And IMHO, the problem is that the Palestinians and their Arab brothers can not ever accept Israel. They continue to hold on to their fantasy that one day they will return to the villages that their predecessors vacated. And the support that they receive from well-meaning Westerners through donations and UNRWA feeds this fantasy. This has to stop. It’s time for the Palestinians to grow up and take responsibility for their own lives. They must accept that they have lost and move on. UN and foreign aid should be cut off and the Palestinians should have to start working for a living. Once there is a viable economy and the population has the confidence to be self-supporting, then an independent entity (most likely a federation with Jordan) could be set up.
This situation has nothing in common with Apartheid and to frame it as such is misleading and hateful.
As an American Jew, I’m pretty happy that John Mearsheimer recognizes that most of us would not support a clearly apartheid state, despite some of our loudest voices claiming that the Palestinians deserve their oppression. Given Israel’s refusal to take the most obvious steps toward a 2-state solution, halting settlement growth, and the sizable minority of Israelis, including some of my cousins, who believe that God gave them the right to rule all of the West Bank, Mearsheimer’s conclusion that Israel is headed toward apartheid in the medium term seems irrefutable.
It’s not only these anti-Jewish professors that need our attention; it’s also the interests, foreign and domestic, that fund them lavishly.
I wrote to Mearscheimer in 2007 after he addressed an “academic freedom” gathering at his university which was really a far-left and jihadist-organized event designed to give moral support to Finkelstein. I asked him why at a conference such as that, he refrained from allowing that academic freedom also must exist for people whose views are different from our own. I asked him why he did not stand up for an instructor at De Paul University who was thrown out after CAIR pressured the university to dismiss him because he angered some Arab students by protesting their distribution of leaflets that called Israel “Nazi.” I asked whether he understood the difference between academic freedom and libel, and whether his university would knowingly employ someone who publicly called people whose work they disagreed with “insane” (such as F. did in the case of Phyllis Chesler, whose work he massively misrepresented,
John, it’s nearly three years since I wrote to you and am still awaiting the courtesy of a reply.
Such a shame that RR just engages in name calling and labeling (a political tactic of the Old Left) without even tempting to deal with the substance of Mearsheimer’s piece. To summarize (as RR didn’t): 1) there is no viable political majority in Israel for withdrawing and allowing an independent Palestinian state on the West Bank–the roads and settlements make that impossible. (and Obama doesn’t have the political strength to impose a solution on Israel).
2) Israel will continue to gradually annex the territory–without giving the Palestinians who live there equal political rights.
3) Eventually, Israel will become an apartheid state–and then lose support among the vast middle of American Jews, who when push comes to shove will choose their own liberal values more than Israel.
My question to RR: if this summary is fair, which of the three elements do you disagree with?
funny that you never hear any calls to dismantle the other “illegitimate” states created after ww2- Jordan Lebanon Syria and Iraq- the NAZIS lost and these fools never got over it, sorry to the VICTORS go the spoils- NONE of those states would exist if not for the “Holocaust” Hitler & Mussolini and fascism – all of THOSE states are 100% theocratic and apartheid by religion and gender- and no one cries NAZI over it- No one cries about the fact we give EGYPT an amount of money equal to that we give Israel, that Israel pays us back in trade and innovation, while from Egypt we get to “buy” an insecure “peace” for billions.
To the posters above thank you for saying the truth about the Obama admin andit’s endorsements and encouragement of jewhate wrapped in the euphemism of anti Zionism.
The fools should really consider a MidEast without Israel as the ONLY stopgap preventing IRAN from swallowing all of it- secretly Saudi UAE Qatar Egypt LOVE ISrael to be there to take the heat off themselves, who will surely be challenged by a nuclear Amedinejhad who hates those Sunni as much as he hates Jews. The O’Bumbler admin just does not “get it”, the reality is not the fairy tale Palis tell and the lies Obama (and the above anti Jewish “Jews”)repeat. Although that technique has surely worked in the past and looks to be onthe rebound.
I love the opnely anti jewish- at least they do not fake and falsify their meanings, do not pretend to be Jewish and yet stand for desstructionof Jewish people and their home- at least they are honesrt about their hatefulness- these stupid traitor JEWS will be the first to burn in Holocaust 2. Loving and collaborating with the enemy will NOT save them from being considered JEWISH. FOOLS
The term “anti-semite” has lost its meaning, has been worn off, and has come to simply be used as another “name” calling ploy.
Israel, unfortunately because of the Jews in Israel and also those outside Israel, is in deep trouble. Israel’s worst enemy is the Jews themselves.
Wow. That’s a lot of distortions in one article.
First of all Norman Finkelstein is not opposed to Israel’s existence. His position is precisely the opposite. But then those are the facts. Facts are probably not welcome here.
Radosh blames the Palestinians for rejecting the UN Partition of 1947. Passed through bribery it barely managed the 2/3 majority required. Contrast this with dozens of virtually unanimous resolutions calling for two states at the 1967 borders, ignored by Israel and the US. That’s not a problem for Radosh. The ones barely passed by bribery 60 years ago are important. The dozens with much greater majorities passed even recently and not through bribery are irrelevant. See the latest roll call here:
http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/another-close-vote-at-the-united-nations/
Finkelstein doesn’t just assert that the Zionist movement has exploited the holocaust in order to perpetuate it’s crimes against the Palestinians. He documents it meticulously. Where are his errors? Dismissing him as a loon is a lot less work than providing evidence of his errors.
So now Mearsheimer is an anti-Semite. Carter is an anti-Semite. Of course Chomsky and Finkelstein are anti-Semite’s. The name calling is so old. When will you deal with the facts? Israel’s occupation of Palestinian territory has been judged illegal by every relevant international body, including the UN Security Council barring the US vetoes. Our problem is not with Jews but with the Israeli and US governments, who in fact are often overruling the will of both the American and Jewish people. Radosh tries to conflate anti-Semitism and rejecting of the Israeli government and US government’s policies. An utterly false conflation.
Does the Israel lobby own Congress? Mearsheimer said yes. But the question is one that can be answered empirically. That would be required of a “political scientist”. It would require examining the votes of Congress over the years and money flows. What an empirical examination of the issue would be is contained in A.K.L. Organski’s “The 36 Billion dollar Bargain”. The professor should learn is that what he freely asserts may be freely denied. You would think that he would know that. Organski’s answer was generally that when the Congress agreed with the Israel Lobby, the Lobby prevailed. On the other hand when the Congress differed with the Lobby, the Lobby went nowhere. But I do think that Professor Mearsheimer should at least have read the book.
Your statement opens with a lie. Mearsheimer never said that Israel owned congress, but that special interest lobbyists represent pro-Israel interests and exerted influence in Congress in the same way that the NRA, AARP, Right to Life, or NOW does. There is nothing anti-Semitic about that claim.
Mearsheimer also makes pointed criticism of the actions of the Israeli state, some of which being more valid than others, but none of which being completely outside the main stream. There is nothing inherently anti-Semitic about that. As a state entity, Israel is open to valid critiques of and debate over any of its policies in the same way any other state is. It has no special moral standing beyond that of any state entity.
The vitriolic hatred of Mearsheimer here demonstrates the inability to have a rational discussion on US policy towards Israel and the absurd notion that criticism of Israel is criticism of Jews. So does the attempt at guilt by association, which ignores the arguments. Let us be honest. Many here would allow a limited criticism of Israel, but a full-scale critique of Israeli policy, or US policy towards Israel, is treated in a very different way that a similar attack against US/Italy policy or US/Salvadorian policy. Mearsheimer’s words were inflammatory, but would you feel the same if he made the same claims about Nigeria or Norway? You might disagree and present reasoned arguments against him, but would he still be a racist in your mind?
The problem with Israel is that they will force the same policy in Iran as they did in Iraq through their stooges as this crazy writer,or in AIPAC or in the Congress and get away with it. America will end up paying in terms of body bags. Just look at what they promised few years back regarding settlements if the attacks on their cities stopped but they are back to their old ways. The irony is that no one has the guts to penalize them regarding nuclear weapons or for going against Geneva convention regarding occcupied lands. This is giving birth to more extremism and new Bin Ladens in the Middle East.
report as objectionable
Re: Modern nation of Israel>Ya gotta call a spade a spade especially when dealing with sacred cows. Jewophiles, sorry, we’re gunna tell it like it is when it comes to any foreign country.
Israelis currently have the upper hand. For this reason it would be wonderful if they could do more than point to having abandonned settlements in the Gaza Strip, something that would show that they really wish to co-operate with their Palestinian neighbours so that all may live in harmony and without fear. Sharing water equitably would be a start – but in the long term – after walls come down and the barbed wire is removed – what is needed is more participation in cultural and sporting events. Orchestras and football matches; colleges and cross-cultural television. The barriers must come down and for that to happen there has to be a change of will on both sides. Ultimately the only solution is a secular state embodying the best Jews, Christians and Muslims can contribute towards the well-being of all. There is no good reason why this can not come about.
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