Health Care and the Fall of Obama
If you want to know why President Obama’s poll ratings are slipping daily, and why in Massachusetts the unthinkable may actually occur- a win for Republican Senate hopeful Scott Brown over Democrat Martha Coakley in the forthcoming Special Election- look no further than the new deals being made in an effort to pass health care legislation.
As a New York Times blog explains today, “the White House and Congressional leaders struck a tentative deal with organized labor groups on a proposal to tax high-cost, employer-sponsored insurance policies as one way to pay for the legislation. The bill the Senate passed included a version of this excise tax that the Congressional Budget Office said would generate $149 billion over 10 years toward the cost of the legislation. But after making changes to mollify organized labor groups and reduce the number of union-sponsored insurance plans that will be hit by the excise tax, the version of the tax to be included in the final bill will probably generate only $90 billion, officials said.”
To get through the double-talk, what the compromises with special interests means, as the news report makes clear, is “an approximately $50-billion hole…[in the deficit that] is expected to grow even bigger as top White House officials and Congressional leaders work through other issues that will raise the cost of the legislation.”
As another Times report explained, “under the bill passed last month by the Senate, the federal government would have imposed a 40 percent tax on the value of employer-sponsored health coverage exceeding $8,500 a year for an individual and $23,000 for a family. The tax would have taken effect in 2013. White House officials, Democratic Congressional leaders and labor unions said Thursday that they had agreed to an increase in those thresholds to $8,900 for an individual and $24,000 for a family. Moreover, they said, starting in 2015, the cost of separate coverage for dental and vision care would be excluded from the calculations. In addition, they said, health plans covering state and local government employees and collectively bargained health plans would be exempt from the tax until 2018.”
Then there is the Medicare problem, and the plan to increase the Medicare payroll tax. The Times explains: “One criticism is that the approach would undermine one of the core original concepts of Medicare, which is that it serves a social insurance compact between generations of Americans, with the working population contributing premiums (the payroll tax) that pay benefits after retirement. By this argument, as a smaller number of wealthy Americans pay a larger share of the future benefits of Medicare for everyone, the program looks more like traditional welfare than a prepaid retirement benefit.”
Then, of course, there are the special deals made by the Obama administration with the big pharmaceutical companies and the insurance lobby, whose stock has soared in recent days and who will win big time by passage of the legislation. As former Mayor Ed Koch of New York wrote in a recent blog, “If the president had totally committed himself to this health care legislation and had called in every wavering Democratic Senator – and yes, the two or three Republican Senators who appeared cooperative as well — they would have come along and the final legislation would now include anti-trust prohibitions aimed at preventing insurance companies from continuing to conspire to fix prices. It would also include a tort reform scheme that could have saved the government $54 billion over the next ten years; authorization for insurance policy shopping across state lines; use of U.S. funds by poor women to pay for abortions; allowance of Medicare to negotiate volume discounts on prescription drugs that over a ten-year period could have saved a trillion dollars; and a government option that would have provided insurance companies with competition.” As Koch concluded, “the President sold out to the insurance companies and the prescription drug companies.”
Koch says it will be left to historians in later years to explain why. I think the reasons have already been well stated, by the most astute commentator writing today, Charles Krauthammer. As he puts it, “ it is not that Obama is too cool or compliant but that he’s too left.” Obama, he writes, has favored legislation that amounts to “government health care by proxy, single-payer through a facade of nominally ‘private’ insurers.” In a country that remains center-right, Obama acted ideologically, seeking “to introduce a powerful social democratic stream into America’s deeply and historically individualist polity.”
Krauthammer does not say Obama is a stealth communist or socialist, as some on the Right do. There is a difference between social-democracy and communism or socialism. But as most Americans understand, the European social-democratic states created huge welfare benefits for their relatively small populations. Yet today they are nations that are in an economic state of stagnation, and their benefits packages are stifling their economies.
Even if Scott loses in Massachusetts, the election will be close. Perhaps it might even fall to the libertarian third party spoiler, Joe Kennedy, whose Tea Party followers might succeed in ushering in a win for Coakley. Thus Kennedy would have the same effect in Massachusetts as Ralph Nader had in Florida in 2000, when his percentage of the vote led the state to fall to George W. Bush.
As Krauthammer says, the age of Obama is over, one short year into his Presidency.






Scott Brown will likely win—but his campaign is already a major success. An actual victory would almost be similar to putting frosting on the cake. Purple and red state Democratic Party politicians have gotten the message. I predicted over eighteen months ago that Barack Obama was a marginalized leader unable to get any serious domestic legislation through both houses of Congress. Knock on wood, it appears that I was right. The health care bill is probably dead. In one way or another, somebody will perhaps subtly find a way to throw a monkey wrench into the gears.
Barack Obama and his followers ignored the clear results of the polls taken immediately after the election. Those who ultimately decided the contest unambiguously said they had no interest in radical, Saul Alinsky style politics. These somewhat naïve folks thought their votes were cast for a middle of the road candidate—a man who possessed good sound judgment concerning economic matters. Countless Americans who hold left of center views on the cultural war issues adored Obama. But he was not supposed to mess with their money! That is unforgivable in their eyes. The odds are that these voters will now abandon most Democratic Party candidates for minimally the next two election cycles.
I think Obama and his administration are finally being seen for what they are, snake oil salesmen. Great sales pitch, flashy packaging, absolutely nothing of value in the product.
I also think people are becoming upset with how the stimulus package and health care are being foisted upon us. Constitutional principles, parliamentary procedure, and transparency are quite important to a lot more of us than those in power seem to think, and the Beer Hall Putsch, or Chicago politics mentality of the current administration is most unacceptable.
In my opinion, both the major parties need a 2×4 in the chops, just to get their attention. Remind them of the little things, like they govern by the consent of THE PEOPLE.
Bring on the independants, call me a teabagger, but never forget that I am a free man, and there are many more like me out there.
according to former vp uncle joey biden-kennedy getting bill clinton-kennedy in there is always the kiss of death for the democratic candidate. look what happened to visionary gov. newsom-kennedy.
1. David Thomson:
Scott Brown will likely win—but his campaign is already a major success. An actual victory would almost be similar to putting frosting on the cake.
Preparing for defeat, I see. Good move. Claim victory if Coakley wins. It worked so swell in NY 23. You people are delusional.
Hope Scott Brown can pull it off but it is still doubtful. He will have to win by 10 or more points because the Democrats will do any and everything to steal the election. The dead are going to vote in record numbers for Coakley.
On the unions being exempted from the excise tax on cadillac plans, has anyone figured out that all the Hollywood types will also be exempted as well. Most are members of one entertainers’ union or another. So while middle class working people will get it in the neck, rich leftist actors who can afford to pay bunches of extra taxes will pay no excise taxes on their high-end health plans.
David Thomson – your comments certainly resonate with me. I also do believe that Scott Brown is going to pull this off and he won’t have to cheat to do it.
I also certainly hope that ACORN isn’t involved in this election and the democrat candidate Coakley will not be receiving any votes from the “dearly departed” or “dead”
Fraudulent elections are despicable in my opinion.
Let’s roll Scott Brown …. you can do it!!!
The voters are coming.
#8 @ 10:09
So are ACORN, the Panthers, and the WFP.
Skeeziks – what part of David Thomson’s comment do you not get? He has already won. First, by forcing the Dems to spend lots of money on a Senate race in Massachusetts. Second, by exposing Coakley as the dimwitted party hack that she is – to the nation! She makes all Democrats look bad. Third, by scaring the dickens out of any Democratic congressman whose seat is less than a sure-fire lock. Fourth, by ramping up already ramped up anti-Obamaites. Every day brings us one day closer to November’s elections. Keeping the passions going helps. Fifth, by keeping the focus on the corrupt machinations going on in Washington over health care reform. The shenanigans with the unions, happening while Scott Brown is capturing the nation’s attention, makes Democrats look even worse. It’s a nice contrast. Sixth, by getting panicked liberals to speak the truth. You know, about quickly passing a bill before Brown could take his seat, or about delaying certification of his election. This looks real good, Skeeziks.
Now, who is delusional? Anyway, would you consider a 5% win by Coakley a vote of confidence in Obama and the liberal agenda?
“The voters are coming.”
With pitchforks and more modern implements if this advancing tyranny doesn’t reverse course through peaceful forms of redress.
“There is a difference between social-democracy and communism or socialism.”
Sure.
Check this out from the Socialist International
“12. Democratic socialism is an international movement for freedom, social justice and solidarity. Its goal is to achieve a peaceful world where these basic values can be enhanced and where each individual can live a meaningful life with the full development of his or her personality and talents and with the guarantee of human and civil rights in a democratic framework of society.”
Sounds good right?
Read the rest
http://www.socialistinternational.org/viewArticle.cfm?ArticleID=31
then read the entry in Wikipedia on Social Democracy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy
and here’s an extremely interesting website
http://www.policy-network.net/index.aspx?id=1930
It pays to learn about these people regardless of what you call them. Their view is pretty simple
very large government role in allocating/directing resources, production, investment
big concern with re-distribution of wealth (both internal to a country and across the world)
always eager to structure multiple layers of governance…global, regional, country, and downward.
All very efficient and “socially just” you see. Oh, and btw, they want to be really innovative.
#4 your right. Martha is going to win, that’s why I am not bothering to vote in the election. Why should I freeze my butt off when our leaders and polls are telling us she is so far ahead? I suggest other Democrats stay home where it’s warm on Jan.19th. Martha doesn’t need your vote so don’t waste your time energy or the gas to get there
Brown will have to win beyond the margin of the usual Democrat voter fraud; he will need at least 5 real points to win by a point or two
Ron, I’m not “on the right”, I have always been a GDI, never wavered.
I owe no loyalty to any party, and give none. On certain issues, after I review the facts (when I can get them from an information stream so diseased they often can’t be trusted), I fall wherever my conscience concludes right is right, fair is fair, wrong is wrong.
I am extremely disappointed when I see the subtle and not so subtle attempts to disgrace our men and women in uniform, slander them, pin on them false attributes and false accusations.
I am utterly disgusted by the naked attempt by members of our entrenched media to intentionally mislead, hide and distort key and material facts needed to self-govern this land of ours.
I say all this in preface to the following thought, Ron…what do you call it when:
1)A government is installed that passes legislation in the dark of night so that the public is deprived of a full accounting of its actions?
2)A government is installed that puts taxes in “Chinese boxes”, a hidden tax within a box that is within a box that is within a box?
4)A government that has our “free and independent” press so solidly in their pocket, that “news” and propaganda are inseparable?
5)A government that legislates by fiat, not consent of the governed, in order to grant favors to unions, special interest groups and has a STATED intent to “take and redistribute” from a strained-to-the-limit populace?
6)A government that calls its own people “teabaggers”, a vile slur that would garner a hate crime prosecution if hurled against the original group for whom the slur was originated?
7)A government that investigates and persecutes a plumber for the impertinence of not liking the policies of those in power?
8)A government that calls its own people “bitter clingers”, and paints them as the “real threat” to the nation…as opposed to sworn enemies who have hijacked planes and rammed them into skyscrapers?
9)A government that grabs the banking industry, the auto industry and the health industry…constituting a vast percentage of our GNP, and gives control of the whole of it to one party…to be paid by the taxpayers, in a legislation that is filled with back room side deals, carve outs, pork, …sending us spiraling into not a 7 figure deficit, not an 8 figure deficit, not a nine figure deficit…but a deficit in the tens of trillions of dollars?
10) A government that by intent or by passive acquiescence engages in a global warming scam, depriving the public of the benefit of scientific scrutiny in order to suppress facts and information that would tend to unveil weakness in the crammed down notion that the issue was “settled” science, when it clearly is not.
Ron, they do all this with a complicit and diseased entrenched media, propagandizing for a leftist agenda, depriving this nation…and all those who are in the center…and rightward on the political spectrum, of a voice in the self-governance of this land.
I don’t know what “label” to put on that, Ron. “Some” on the right, you say…call it socialism or communism.
I’m not on the right, Ron. And I call it a disgrace.
Somehow, I left out paragraph 3, my apologies.
3)A government that takes sworn enemies off the battlefield and strips the military of its power and authority and treats guerrilla warriors as street criminals, exposing our national security to grave risks, providing lawyered up defenses and delivering key information to those who mean to destroy us.
I read where there is a plan to make up for the foregone revenues by having the Medicare tax apply to capital gains. Don’t know if this a done deal, just under consideation, or a false rumor.
If so, quite incredible. One can only wonder what the industrial unions who have been involved in all this think will happen to their members’s jobs when there is no equipment to work with or building to work in.
A major contributor to the economic problems, esp. unemployment in the late 1970s and then the “hollowing out” of the Rust Belt (read, steel and auto industries) in the 1980s and 1990s was that the 1968-1982 inflation combind with a tax code that treated capital gains and depreciation very unfavorably led employers to not invest in new plant and equipment. Due to lack of investment the domestic US cores of those companies became uncompetitive and eventually insolvent—US Steel tried to become an oil company when it bought Marathon, and the other steels similarly tried to buy commodity-producers rather than invest what was needed to make better steel more efficiently. Auto companies similar diversified overseas in things like Jaguar, Volvo, Saab, rather than spend that money on North American plant and equipment; tho they were also hobbled by govt CAFE standards.
The results of all that are obvious.
If what I read is true, I guess either the industrial and skilled trade unions are asleep or are so weak as compared to the government employee unions that they couldn’t head off something that will drive industrial employment and competitiveness even deeper into the ground.
And the govt side (Obama and Congress) just doesn’t care, they will even trash what’s left of industrial employment and competitiveness, including its effects on the unions and the nation’s balance of trade, just to pass any sort of health care bill.
Commenter cfbleachers calls it a disgrace. That is being very, very kind.
#9 bleachers- I’ll tell you what it’s called…. a revolution waiting to happen. Torches and pitchforks at the ready!
Socialism is socialism no matter the prefix of qualifier. A social democracy is the opposite of a freedom democracy? All a social democracy is is just a slower way to get to the same result. Most of the EU started as simple democracies and now are social democracies and with their decline to full socialism accelerating.
Skeeziks,
“You people are delusional.”
Delusional? Compared to who? Class assignment: do some LexisNexus searches and compare what candidate Obama promised and President Obama has delivered.
Once you do this, you’ll realize who’s really “delusional.”
” Purple and red state Democratic Party politicians have gotten the message.”
David, they have never gotten the message and never will. They will persist in stealing, lying, deceiving, relentlessly in their pursuit of a statist nation. It isn’t politics, its religion. To them, such a nation is heaven on earth; no matter that it is hell for those of us paying for it with our treasury and freedom.
President Obama literally put all of his eggs into ObamaCare & Porkulus; however, we the people have soundly rejected both. Porkulus keeps proving to be ab absolute failure as Obama’s “saved & created” jive talking is wearing thin & unemployment continues to rise. I don’t think Obama’s bank tax will get anywhere in the Senate & perhaps the House. ObamaCare is another total disaster for the Democrats & is destroying Obama given we don’t want it. Period. The secrecy is not helping the Democrats. And Obama’s lies keep piling up for the wreck it is. Obama has destroyed himself & the Democratic Party with these Leftist moves. For the Democrats to recover, they have to repudiate & reject Obama & his Marxism; however, the Stalin stain will remain on the Democratic Party for some time to come.
If “Communism” is to our American freedom the headsman’s axe, “Socialism” (as practiced by Saddam Hussein, Hugo Chavez, Robert Mugabe, and their ilk) is the dagger in the gut, and “Social Democracy” is the slow garrote.
True freedom never means never depending on the whims of a mindless, faceless bureaucracy for our daily bread. Did any of you who reject theclear teaching ofScripture miss the message in Brave New World, The Day The Machine Stopped, 1984, Animal Farm, Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, and any number of other secular masterpieces?
When the statists win, regardless of what they promised or called themselves, your local “administrator” will have all of the people under his care on their knees begging for a handful of grain–with no other place to find it.
In the late 1970s, a family escaped from Eastern Europe and made it to McKinleyville, California. I admit we used to call that former clump of tarpaper shacks “Little-Arkansas-By-The-Sea”. But the local media was there when this family who had lived in a “Workers’ Paradise” first went to the little Safeway supermarket. The woman and her children burst into tears when she saw the meat and dairy counters. They had never seen so much, in such fresh condition, with no lines and no rationing.
I don’t trust governments to create prosperity. And any of you who believe we can tax our way to a bright future are mentally ill.
This is not a Left vs. Right or GOP vs. Democrat thing. This is America vs. our unsleeping EverEnemy. America needs two strong political parties operating in balance. But they must be lead by people who love America and trust Americans to take care of each other without help or interference ftom “Big Brother” and his jack-booted czars, commissars and thugs.
“The dead are going to vote in record numbers for Coakley.” And if that doesn’t get the job done, they’ll vote twice.
9. cfbleachers:
Well said, my man!
With regard to Obama’s problems; it’s more than being too cool or too leftish. It’s the case of not having any common sense. For example, a much wiser presidential plan would have been to work on replacing jobs first.
Obama is finally being seen by voters for what he is….a Chicago politician,no more and no less.
This presidency is effectively over.
Period…
#13 loco36
True enough, but don’t misunderestimate Chicago-style politics. Though being smart was never a prerequisite to success in Cook County politics, these knuckle-draggers have had a strangle hold on us for decades. I hope the folks in MA are yearning to breath free again.
From Fox (http://tinyurl.com/y98fbes):
> The breakthrough announced Thursday was a biproduct of the previous days
> talks: a deal on so-called “Cadillac” insurance plans. The White House
> and top union leaders heralded the agreement, which shields all union
> workers for five years from significant taxes on health benefit packages
> that non-union workers will face starting in 2013.
Isn’t it shocking that Obama would build in this kind of discrimination that favors those who support his policies (in this case unions) and attacks those who don’t support his policies (in this case, non-union workers)?
Isn’t this a case of making a law say, anyone who doesn’t support passage of this law, will be taxed at a higher rate, than those who support it?
In this way, it appears to be an attack on the foundations of democracy. Would it be possible to challenge the legality of such an approach?
The President claims Reinhold Niebuhr as an inspiration. Yet Neibuhr wrote very clearly and pessimistically of the immorality that precedes and encompasses the drive to collectivism.
Bush’s administration was disastrous for ordinary citizens, and this one can very possibly be even worse. Virtually none of the worst decisions of the previous administration have been overturned – only the reach and demand of government has increased even further. Krauthammer was right, and the pols in DC are showing that what the people have to say does not matter to them.
Obama said concerning the health care bill this week that “once the bill is passed” we will change our minds. No one who manages to hold on to a made-up statistic about “jobs that would have been lost” will be able to have his mind changed due to any reason, any experience. At least President Bush had an adversarial press to deal with – this one is asking the Chief Executive to write its cover stories.
You could find reason to legally challenge almost everything coming from Barney Pelosibama. The problem is however that these challenges probably won’t succeed. George Will wrote recently that the Democrats and too many of the judicial branch “believe that having government by popular sovereignty is more important than what government does”. On the other hand the conservative and libertarian point of view is that “obligatory engagement with the Constitution’s text and logic supersedes any obligation to be differential toward the actions of government merely because they reflect popular sovereignty”.
But I wonder if the challenges become more viable by showing that the “popular sovereignity” in the case of this health care legislation is not popular sovereignity in fact. Rather it is only a legislative majority fraudulantly assembled by Obama et al.
I recommend Mr. Wills recent article discussing the current legislation and whether or not it has sailed outside constitutional waters: http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/congress-229043-mandate-constitutional.html
Let Freedom Ring: When I hear that song by Bill Gaither I can’t help wondering how America is loosing our freedom and the vast majority of the people arn’t crying out against it.
The Obamaites just tell us to “Shut up and drink your coolaid.
The Union deal is just another example of Americans selling there vote.
I’m glad that I’m old and will not be here to see the final downfall of America if Obama isn’t stopped from his takeover of America and changing us into a socalist state
The downfall of America will be because of Wall Street. It started in the 1980′s and the Supreme Court just paved the way for the final steamrolling.
Cons are mad about Obama's trip because there are no spoils involved with diplomacy.