Middle East peace talks to resolve the so-called Israeli-Palestinian crisis have been coming and going most of my adult life and I’m no spring chicken — free range or otherwise. And now here they are again! But this time, as opposed to all those other times, the AP’s Robert Burns informs us, “the stakes are high.” Well, yes… but maybe not in the way Burns intended.
What’s really going on here? Let’s do a thought experiment.
The last time a hopeful world got transfixed by this roundelay (although this time it might not be paying much attention anyway) was back at the tail end of the Clinton presidency when Bill was trying to untie this Gordian knot and win himself a Nobel Peace Prize. Those discussions began at Camp David in 2000 and dribbled on to Taba in early 2001 when it all went south with the Second Intifada and an Israeli election.
Tons of books and articles have been written about this, I’ve even read and forgotten a few, but I recall enough to know that a lot of ink was spilled about just what percentage of the Palestinian demands were acceded to by the Israelis. Some said as much as 98%, while others said more like 90, or maybe even a paltry 88.
Now here’s the thought experiment part. I’m assuming most of the readers here — in this case I’d wager 99% of you — have been in negotiations themselves. When you got 98% or even 88% of what you wanted, did you walk away and start a war… okay, just walk away? And if you did, why did you do that … when you were so close to making a deal? You could obviously hang around in negotiations and get most, if not all, of what you wanted.
Well, the answer is — no fair peeking — because you never wanted the deal in the first place.
First one in with that response wins the used iPod. Sorry, it’s last year’s model because the answer is so obvious. Well, obvious to everybody but the Walt/Mearsheimer crowd (who seem to think that Israel is the rough equivalent of Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge) and the Peter Beinart set (who keep advising Israel to make concessions “for their own good,” whatever that is).
Indeed, most of us realize what is even more obvious. If the Palestinians had really wanted a state of their own beside Israel, a two-state solution, they could have had one thirty years ago — or more. They don’t want a two-state solution. They want a one-state solution.
A lot of what goes on in the middle east starts to make sense if we think of palestinian terrorism as a big business supported by oil money from the Gulf states. Think of all those middle-manager equivalents whose livelihoods would be threatened by effective peace agreements (or for that matter actually destroying Israel). So whenever the Gulf arabs start to consider lessening their hostility and decreasing their payments, and peace threatens to break out, those middle managers increase anti-Israel terrorism to encourage pan-arab solidarity on the part of the Gulf-state billionaires who fund the terrorists and, of course, to encourage anti-arab hostility by the Israeli electorate. Once sufficient anger has been generated, these same middle managers put a damper on the violence, because after all Israeli counter-terrorism activities make their life more dangerous (and force them to work harder). It’s a sick, but — mathematically speaking — stable situation. It even has a solution, in the mathematical sense. Approximately thirty percent of the world’s oil comes from the middle east. Destroy the oil wells, which eliminates the source of the money supporting the terrorists, and the system collapses like a popped balloon. Trying to live with 30% less oil won’t be easy but it won’t be catastrophic either. The best time to try doing it is during a world-wide depression with its associated drop in oil demand, and — ironically — would also be the most effective thing Obama could do to encourage those “green” sources of energy he is so eager to impose on the rest of us.
Hamas wants only one thing: the complete extermination of all Jews in Israel. They want nothing else. They want nothing else.
If they sign any kind of treaty, then they will continue to do their level best to exterminate all Jews in Israel. If they do not sign a treaty, then then they will continue to do their level best to exterminate all Jews in Israel.
The “true believers” in Hamas will sacrifice their own lives and the lives of their loved ones, if it can help bring about the extermination of all Jews in Israel. This makes them an utterly irrational force for pure evil in this world. One does not debate or negotiate with psychopaths such as that. One puts them in prison or shoots them.
Hate Israel however so much they may, with all their heart and soul, Hamas members — both officers and foot soldiers — also have to support themselves and their families. Cut off the flow of money from — in the case of Hamas, Iran — and they necessarily will have to turn most of their attentions away from terrorism and toward earning a living. Connecting to Israel’s western-style economy will be the natural and almost inevitable way to earn that living. With no exciting quasi-military activities or bountiful cash to attract new recruits, and every economic incentive to wish for a strong and vibrant Israeli economy, it would be strange indeed if Hamas members’ political views did not moderate over time. Young firebrands grow old and middle-aged like everyone else.
I like your idea to a point. The last time I looked at our energy consumption in barrels (42 gal per) we were burning approximately eleven million per day bought from the Middle East. Which is more than we produce here at home or import from “friendlier” nations. I am ready to do without the oil, who else?
Netanyahu is fooling himself if he thinks he can count on American support for any action against Iran. Nothing will be forthcoming.
These talks with the Palestinians are an exercise in futility, keeping the Israeli gov’t. busy with what is at best, a distraction.
The talks will go nowhere, Abbas does not have the support to make any concessions nor does he even want to. Hamas will take over the West Bank within weeks of an IDF withdrawal. In all liklihood, the more radical elements of Fatah will join with Hamas. As was the case with Gaza, any measures taken by Israel in self-defense will be condemned, another Goldstoning by the international community of morons.
America under Obama is not our ally, period.
If we had a Pro-American President, then we’d have a Pro-Israel presidency.
As it stands in this current administration?
Our current POTUS/Flotus+cronies+czars are Anti-America and thusly Anti-American-Allies.
This ain’t rocket-science.
We have a traitor in the WH.
Agreed Terry and Delia,
Netanyahu is right to show up at thy WH and exhaust every possibility of gaining Obama’s pledge to stand with Israel. Obama is just clueless, that’s all, and he’s afraid. There are however, bonafide traitors in the WH…Obama now has a choice. God help us, if he has already decided to shun Israel.
Barry is not clueless. He hates Jews and will do everything he can to make sure Isreal is exterminated.Lucky for him, his boss(Soros) has the same goal. The thing that really gets to me is the financing by American Jews makes it all possible. If American Jews donated and voted like Mormons, Isreal would not be in danger.
Delia has it exactly right. A pro-American President is a pro-Israel President. And the U.S. doesn’t have one, and won’t until January 20, 2013. Let us hope and pray that Israel can survive until that date, and indeed, forever.
Of all his many Presidential duties, the one Obama dislikes most and is least prepared for is Commander-in-Chief. This isn’t to say that he’s well-prepared for any of his other official duties, only that this is the one least consistent with his beliefs, his unrealistic understanding of the world as it is, and his natural proclivities. I cannot think of a man less suited to the Presidency in the history of our country.
If Israel can find another strong ally, Israel should do so, because depending on Barack Obama is like depending on a New Orleans levee in a hurricane. Foolish, pointless and dangerous.
I agree, Bella. Israel is SOL with America as her ‘supposed’ *cough-cough* ‘ally’ (for now). Hell, America is SOL (for now) with this current ‘administration’. Boy, is it ever ugly up in here.
Israel should just ignore the USA and do what ISRAEL needs to frickin’ do. Enough already. Their survival is in peril if they even ‘count’ on the USA at this point where we have a bunch of Lefty freaktwats running the ‘really big shewwww’.
Eff the USA, and EFF the ‘politically correct’ garbage being strewn left and right by the Marxist sickos.
Time to get ‘er done.
March on, soldiers. March on!
Latest Debka claim is that small groups of Iranians and Lebanese Shiites are perpetrating the latest waves of attacks. The Shabak thus will have great difficulty finding them, since they are not regular PA or Hamas operatives. Thus the roadblocks need to go back immediately, something Bibi has not done, will not do until there is at least one more very bloody attack. So no doubt he is derelict in duty in that regard.
Perhaps he ‘had to’ come to the talks. My feeling is that with Barak inside the gov’t and Bibi’s distaste for a national unity gov’t including Kadima, he has ‘no choice’ but to continue with talks.
Of course he has a choice – declare the talks dead until the Pals show some true signs of wanting peace and until the Iranian threat is dealt with, fire Barak and form a NUG. If Tsipi won’t sit with the Nat’l Union – something I doubt (she will) – then form a ‘narrow’ right wing gov’t.
Of course, the other possibility is that Barak and or people high in the AG’s office and courts are licking their lips waiting to take Bibi down if he goes hardline. Bibi can be easily spooked, Terry, and then he recovers. This is his pattern. He is probably just not strong enough to handle this combination of pressures. He will bumble through, though individual Israelis may not.
Democrats, both the Clinton type and the Obama type are hostile to Netanyahu. It isn’t all foreign policy. Remember that Netanyahu has been one of the strongest proponents of capitalism in the formerly socialist state of Israel. We now see the entrepreneurial state of Israel surpassing the hobbled US in technology IPOs and we can’t have that, can we ? This is not just about the Palestinians.
That’s a very good point, Mike. Jealousy at Israel’s economic success which disproves the socialist theories the Obamites believe in so deeply.
Larry in the Silicon.
Read this article by Barry Rubin at RubinReports, ”Barack hearts Bibi.”
and let me know what you think on Totten’s blog.
http://rubinreports.blogspot.com/
Sometimes I wonder whether the best spot for an Israeli nuke is under the Israeli embassy in DC. If both the US and Israel started over minus everyone inside the beltway, would our peoples end up closer or farther apart?
What is the point of having these peace talks? I do not even need to read the article since I know the so called Palestinians are not even interested in peace with the my fellow Jews of Israel. Israel is in a catch 22 here no matter what she does. The western, liberal media will have sympathy for the Palestinians:and hate and anger for the Jews. We know damn well the odds are against Israel’s since she has already lost the hand that has been dealt to her. Peace means more and more pieces for the so called Palestinians. The Arabs and the rest of the so called Palestinians can go screw themselves.
If Obama is willing to throw the entire state of Arizona under the bus, where does any Israeli get off thinking they’ll get anything but the brushoff?
This is what happens when any country elects a Citizen of the World as Chief Executive – they immediately act as if they are above it all in international relations. Because, in a sense, they are. People like Obama have far greater matters in mind than the piddling disputes between mere nation-states.
so, instead of Palestinians and israelis being one big happy kibbutz – after seeing the crowds celebrating the murders of 4 Israelis in cold blood – how about giving EVERYONE in the West Bank and Gaza, say 30 days, to get out of the country, then just bulldoze everything and start over with a 0 Palestinian immigration policy – whaddayasay?
I have a more practical solution. Do what the so called palistinians would do were the situation reversed. Kill Them All.
Except that the Palis are facing off against the one nation on Earth least likely to choose a genocidal solution, and they damn well know it.
However, there is The Samson Option – does Israel have the capability and the will to nuke Cairo, Damascus, Riyadh, Mecca and Medina if they’re going under? The Arabs are betting not. Myself, I would not want to push the one nation that has faced genocide within the last two generations to that brink again. But I don’t believe God will welcome me with open arms for enabling another Holocaust.
What an opportune time for Hezbollah, Hamas and their mates to instigate a war with Israel, forcing them to retaliate and scuttle any chance for peace. As long as Syria and Iran are behind these thugs, then peace won’t come easy.
I think the only chance of peace is if Israel capitulates and disregards its safety. Not much chance of this happening – and rightly so after many wars. Any weakness in Israel’s defence will be akin to pulling the plug from the dike – every terrorist wannabe will pour in to Israel creating havoc.
We wish and pray for peace….
On August 31 BHO gave his speech on troop withdrawal from Iraq, He declared, ” We’ve endured a long and painful recession. ” Am I the only one who didn’t get the memo that the recession is over? Of course millionaire vacations, lobster sushi and endless rounds of golf do take the sting out of financial distress, I guess. This President seems to have lost his grip on reality. Not that it was ever held tightly anyway.
Now the Dimwit-In-Chief sets his sites on yet another state for the Paleostinians ( not a typo ). As if the three territories they already control are not enough. Well guess what Mr. President – you are above the law of man but you are not above The Law of G-d. For every inch of territory you attempt to force Israel to withdraw from the Almighty will wreak havoc on a square mile of America. I pray to G-d that you reverse the course you have set for this great country. A country which deserves so much better than you.
Almighty G-d please spare America from your wrath. Punish us not for the evil of our leaders. Have mercy on us so we may set things right and live.
Well, the answer is — no fair peeking — because you never wanted the deal in the first place.
… or perhaps there is an alternative answer using a slight twist on words ..
because you were never able to accept the deal in the first place.
… when Arafat walked away, it was purely because his power base was predicated on the struggle, the fight with Israel. To accept the deal was to accept being personally marginalized.
With no war, no struggle, there was no need for Mr. Arafat. He would face irrelevance.
This is a problem for most political movements. The Civil Rights Movement has the same problem. The institutions that grew up out of the Civil Right Movement, like the NAACP, are completely unable to accept victory, lest they become unemployed.
… by the way, the first hint that this was the case, was when Arafat was squirrelling away money in Swiss bank accounts.
A quick check with the Swiss will tell us if any possible negotiated deal is possible this time around.
I once read a informal history (magazine article) about that era which stated, as a throwaway line, that the antiwar movement of the later 1960′s was fueled by “unemployed” civil-rights activists who had nothing to do once the 1964 civil rights act had been signed into law. So you could argue — since America was not actually defeated in battle so much as it just gave up supporting its Southeast Asian allies because the war had become so politically unpopular — that victory in the civil rights movement led to the loss of the Vietnam war.
“With no war, no struggle, there was no need for Mr. Arafat. He would face irrelevance.”
Or worse?
“Or worse.”
Of course that’s the correct answer. Abbas wants to die in bed like Arafat…not in a hail of Islamist bullets like Sadat.
Who is representing the Palestinian side?
Do they have authority to negotiate on behalf of the Palestinians?
Do they have enough control to implement and enforce law and order in the area they represent?
Is there anybody that has any confidence what so ever that they will make good on their promises.
Does anybody really give a hoot about middle east peace talks?
By refusing to accept a 98% victory, Arafat assured that the only thing that would satisfy the Arab world would be the complete destruction of Israel.
Barack Obama last night pleaded with Netanyahu and Abbas to “put aside their differences” and make a deal.
When Obama makes an empty headed statement like that everyone has to know he hasn’t got a clue!
Mr Simon:
I read your work religiously. But this piece is perhaps the sharpest of them all. Why oh Why can’t the sensible West see through to the obvious? Exasperating! God bless you, sir -
It seems, with hindsight, that the West is doing its “clean hands best” to get a “one-state solution because every time the Arabs/Palestinians got into a bind with the Israelis the West came running to their defense with wads of cash and plenty of rhetoric used against Israeli actions.
Seems most people have forgotten the Arab League’s 3 No’s of Khartoum.
What needs to be considered as well apart from Roger’s It’s a four letter word that begins with an “I” and ends with an “N.” is the two letters that starts with U and ends with N which Obama has shown that he is only too willing to use against Israel.
That the BBC could produce a report on the Turkish flotilla that contradicted the implied denigration of Israel’s actions by Obama’s representative in the UN says a lot.
Silly Roger.
“Lemme tell you something, Iranian influence in Iraq is minimal. Its been greatly exaggerated,” he said. “The Iranian government spent over $100 million trying to affect the outcome of this last election to sway the Iraqi people and they utterly failed.”
As evidence, Biden pointed to the fact that Iraqi political players Nouri al-Maliki, Iyad Allawi and Massoud Barzani are all “persona non grata” in Iran.
When Joe Biden speaks, Roger, we must listen.
http://americaswatchtower.com/2008/05/15/joe-biden-calls-president-bushs-speech-to-israel-bullshit/
My own take on the timing of all this, please forgive me, is…we are two months removed from November. Even if American Jews would not punish Democrats for the hideous treatment of Israel during the Biden visit, and Bibi during his WH dining alone experience, it doesn’t hurt to shore up whatever base the Democrats have left to avoid a complete annihilation.
I mean, the Democratic party annihilation, they don’t seem to really care much about Israel’s annihilation.
This whole broad farce about calling W (to say what, exactly?) as the troops were brought home from Iraq, is all about winning back any moderate or independent who is willing to be seduced by bland pronouncements and empty gestures.
The monotone, emotionless, Pod Person delivery about the troops, simultaneously keeping the frothing anti-war left at bay, gritting their teeth at any shallow bow (as opposed to the deep bows to dictators and despots) to our military…while giving the appearance of laudatory and appreciative thanks for their service.
The minute, the millisecond they remove those uniforms and become patriotic citizens…they transform into “bitter clingers”, “homegrown terrorists”, “teabaggers”, and racist, unwashed, xenophobes…but I digress.
It’s not the troops, it’s not the Israelis, it’s not anyone or anything other than this…”Where can I find some votes in November?”
Moderates and independents, maybe. And, some folks who might have sat at home…uninspired and unconvinced. Bibi is a prop. He has no choice, he must allow himself to be used as one. Hey, maybe if Bibi doesn’t behave, we can turn Israel over to the U.N. like we did Arizona! After all, they have been quite fair to Israel too.
And anyone who believes in this broad farce, I have a bridge being built in lower Manhattan for you, just steps from Ground Zero.
You are absolutely correct.
And — one sure way to decipher the truth of a situation Joe Biden opines on — is that it will be exactly the opposite of whatever he says.
I am over sixty five and I cannot remember a time in the past when there was not a “crucial” meeting to discuss the so called mid east peace. Nothing is ever accomplished except to make Palestinian radicals like the late arafat millionaires. We American were told that Jimmy Carter the Pious had solved all the problems between Jews and Muslims with his much over rated Camp David agreement which basically funneled billions of dollars of taxpayers monies to the middle east. Let us be serious here the peace conference called by the god president of the US and his votaries is nothing more than a sham and a waste of time but no one in the government controlled media; i.e. New York Times, NBC etc will ever speak those words for fear of offending his holiness the great Barack Hussein.
The tragedy of the murders in Hebron is compounded by the media attempt to portray it as an attempt to derail the so called peace process. The arrogance of these no-nothings boggles the mind. In grief and sorrow I have no words to express my anger and the lust in my bones for vengeance. I am sure I am not alone in my in my feelings. Looking to The Almighty for guidance I have come across the speech given by Rav Kook, first Chief Rabbi of Israel, after the massacre of Jews in Hebron in 1929. I offer to you dear reader as both solace and perspective-
The speech of Rav A.I.Kook, Chief Rabbi of Israel after the 1929 massacre in Chevron-
” The holy martyrs of Hebron do not need a memorial service. The Jewish people can never forget the holy and pure souls who were slaughtered by murderers and vile thugs. Rather, we must remember and remind the Jewish people not to forget the city of the Patriarchs. The people must know what Hebron means to us.
We have a tradition that “The actions of the fathers are signposts for the children” (Nachmanides, Gen. 12:6). When the weak-hearted spies arrived at Hebron, they were frightened by the fierce nations that lived in the land. But ‘Caleb quieted the people for Moses. He said, ‘We must go forth and occupy the land — we can do it!” (Num. 13:30) Despite this terrible tragedy that took place in Hebron, we announce to the world, “Our strength now is like our strength then.” We will not abandon our holy places and aspirations.
Hebron is the city of our fathers, the city of the Machpeilah cave where our Patriarchs are buried. It is the city of David, the cradle of our sovereign monarchy. Those who discourage the ones trying to rebuild the Jewish community in Hebron with arguments of political expedience; those who scorn and say, ‘What are those wretched Jews doing?’; those who refuse to help build Hebron — they are attacking the very roots of our people. In the future they will need to give account for their actions. If ruffians and hooligans have repaid our kindness with malice, we have only one eternal response: Jewish Hebron will once again be built, in honor and glory!
The inner meaning of Hebron is to draw strength and galvanize ourselves with the power of Netzach Yisrael, Eternal Israel. That proud Jew, Caleb, announced years later, “I am still strong… as my strength was then, so is my strength now” (Joshua 14:11). So too, we announce to all: our strength now is as our strength was then. We shall reestablish Hebron in even greater glory, with peace and security for every Jew. With God’s help, we will merit to see Hebron completely rebuilt, speedily in our days.”
Amen
Here’s a real solution for negotiation gambits setting the tone and expectations. Israel should tell the Palestinians to form a provisional government and if the Israeli’s like the government they will negotiate. If there are rocket or other attacks into Israel during this time, Israel will recognize the Provisional Government and declare a state of war to exist between Israel and the Palestinian State, invade and annex. Israel needs more land anyway – half of their problems is that they are too small.
Suggested reading: They Must be Stopped ( Bridgette Gabriel ) .
Thomas Paine put it best when he said: “Because bad men will not good men dare not cast aside the sword”.
what else needs to be said ?
These peace talks will fail. Why? Because the only people that want to be there are Clinton and Obama. I don’t see any reports of hope and change exhibited in Israel or among the squatter in so called Palestine.
It’s really simple folks…
The issue aint borders, Jerusalem or refugees…
It’s the Jewish State of Israel BEING.
You could give up all land pre-1948 and you still will have arab/islamic terror…
It would be justified, it would be tolerated.
Arafat called it the “phases” plan…
Even if an agreement with Abbas is formed, he lacks a legal office position (his term expired a year ago), he lacks control on Gaza, he lacks popular support.
The paper is worth more than the agreement.
There is a solution.
The destruction of OIL as a valued commodity.
Israel should launch into innovation, production & mass manufacturing of alternative power generation. Scaling it down to personal home use, these power generators could power cars, heating and cooling & light manufacturing.
As long as the Palestinians have supporters that actually do not have to get up and earn a living, grow food and survive we will have a conflict.
No oil wealth from OPEC?
A whole different world.
A hearty “Thank You”, Mr Simon for reminding your readers that after all these years since 1948 of these “negotiations” we’re again having yet another round (and around) of charades.
Let’s face it…no one will say it in public so I will right here…let’s give Israel literally shiploads of drones, missiles, centrifuges, heavy water (remember that term?), fissile-fusion-whatever-fuel. Let’s make the eastern Mediterranean look like the English channel on the 5th of June, 1944. Make it a television extravaganza. Unfiltered, electronically clean coverage.
And, more of the same as may be required to convey the message that the Central/Western-Asian Arab/Jihadist/Muslim coalition will face even greater desert-like environs if they don’t face up to the reality of the permanence of Israel. No further “negotiations” required. No “talks” required. The enemies of Israel should simply look out with un-blinkered eyes over the sea towards the western horizon.
…………and, doubtless, no shooting war will be required.
We can make this a very simple story. The ARABS DO NOT WANT PEACE! The Arab Elite wants to keep stuffing their pockets with international money, and keep their citizens down by blaming Israel.
THE END
Israel needs to forego utopian dreams and instill fear in its enemies. They have the power to do this, thanks to the foresightedness of the early leaders who developed their nuclear program. The best way to do this is to use a couple of small nuclear weapons against the Iranian nuclear program. The Muslim fanatics count on the ‘reasonableness’ of Israel to impose their dastardly will. Machiavelli understood human psychology when he argued that it is better to be feared than loved. Who cares if the world hates Jews? Let the world learn to fear them.
I’ve been aware of ‘the middle east peace process’ since at least 1976 when I first started paying attention. 34 years later, the ‘process’ has yielded nothing. Why do our elected leaders continue with this folly?
There will be peace in the middle east when the question is decided once and for all by total war. Peace- real peace (see 1945)- needs a clear winner and a totally defeated loser.
Israel- you are on your own. Do not depend on b Hussein Obama. His loyalties lie elsewhere.
Finally- God Help Us.
I agree Roger. I am so sick of this nonstop charade in the desert. The wasted time and capital is terribly unnecessary.
The cynacism of the next American round of elections, not withstanding, the US State, Pentagon and CIA are run by those who have spent deacdes placating the Arab lobby and delegitimizing Israel. They now see a way to reach ttheir main goal and they are salivating. It is these individuals that fit with Obama’s view fo the world and understand that Israel is rightly concerned about a nuclear Iran. That the average person doesn’t know how the civil service in Washington tries to run foreign policy and usurp the role of the White House is a travesty.
I suggest Mitchell Bard’s new book, The Arab Lobby. It is a concise, intelligent historical read about who controls the purse/policy strings in Washington and what their main goals actually are. It also does a really good of debunking the anti-semitees Walt and Mersheimer as well.
“They don’t want a two-state solution. They want a one-state solution.”
They(or more correctly their masters) want the port of Haifa.
If one can control the Srtaits of Hormuz and access to the Suez Canal then one can control the middle east.
Yemen and Somalia have been in perpetual warfare forever(control access to the Suez Canal via the Red Sea), Lebanon and Israel/Palestine have also been in perpetual warfare forever(to control access to the Suez Canal from the Mediterranean one would need to control the ports of Beirut and Haifa, or at least be able to park warships there).
Of course no one is going to explain to the Palestinians that they have been fighting a war against the Jews for 50 years over the port of Haifa, they might get upset and turn on their masters.
We beleive that middleeast peace is depend on the attitude of US+Israel. World under the umberala of USA every body are became puzzale for humanright they are killing thousand of innocent people to save the so called democracy huminity in Iraq. But none of them want to say any think about the people of Palestinian in west bank who are passing the life under open sky prison. They are not interseted to talk for Kasmiri.US lead Un want to keep pressure Iran as they want to get nuclear power but nothing to say about Israel who have dozens of N-Bombs.
Now it is observe that above are possible as all victim are Muslim. UN lead by USA managed to stablished the right in Indonesia for the Cristians but not want to do the same for Kashmiri or the Palestinian. So all are nothing except the crused are against the Muslim.
Muslims are tortured every where around the world under the direction of west that are ok for all but when Muslims try to protect themself than named Muslim teroris. But why not teliing terorist to US force who ocupied Iraq,Afganstan why not Israel for ocupied Palestinian why not Indian to kill thousand of people in Kashmir?
To see the peace need to change the mind of of the super power on the above issue should think all are man other wise not in Middle east we can not expect peace any where around the world.
Thanks for your comments, Abdul — I hope you keep coming and explaining yourself.
I disagree with almost everything.
a) peace depends on the Palestinians wanting peace — they do not seem to want peace. It’s not the US, nor Israel.
b)The US hasn’t led the world to embrace human rights, the Arab Muslim genocide against black Muslims in Darfur was not stopped by the US, nor by the UN.
b2) It is Muslim terrorists who are killing thousands of innocents (since 9/11). The US military has killed thousands of military (non-innocents) and Muslim fighters & terrorists — perhaps also some few thousands of women and children but, like Israel, has tried to avoid killing them. Unlike the Muslim terrorists.
c) the Open sky prison in the West Bank is due to Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, etc., not allowing the Palestinians to leave, if they choose. I would agree that Israeli roadblocks are irritating, and a sign of incomplete freedom.
etc…
Israel and/or the US needs to take out Iran’s gov’t before they get and use nukes (Israel probably has them, hasn’t used them nor claimed they would).
Besides that, Israel should be stopping “aid” that is not investment into Palestinian businesses. One key for peace is for successful Palestinian businessmen to be against war, because it’s bad for business. Business is based on peaceful agreement.
Gov’t is based on force. “aid” for gov’t is support for more force — what the Mid East needs is more peaceful agreements. Business.
The football is planted. The goal posts looks impossibly far. Obama looks questionally to the sidelines, his coaches nod. History is in the making. Only Obama in all of history has the smooth oratorical skills to pull this off. Peace in the Middle East! Lucy nods and gives him a wink of assurance. This time it’s for real!
I nominate “Ralph Woods” is a front runner for a Pulitzer, H.L. Mencken Div. and also I hereby blow his cover as a subversive plant, actually in the pay of the stalwart forces of the Speaker of the House-In-Waiting.
Lucy, the faux accomplice wearing the blue hood, with a tinge of revealed red at the throat, is of course going to cause that football to teeter over one nanosecond in advance the toe’s impact.
Gasp! What’s happened?!? ..looks like Obama’s looking down at the grass for his contacts…..the Ref’s whistle is about to be blown….
“…H. L. Mencken
An idealist is one who, on noticing that a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes that it will also make better soup.
H. L. Mencken
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