France is more conservative and they’ve got better food. And isn’t that the grand tradition of Hollywood sore losers? Your man fails and you’re outta here. Just think – maybe I’ll meet Susan Sarandon. She’s supposed to be there, isn’t she? Or did she finally stay in Beverly Hills? Well, I won’t. It’s Bordeaux for me. I hear the red wine cancels out the cholesterol in the foie gras. What could be better?
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Roger,
After tomorrow, there will be NOWHERE to run.
Even Sarkozy’s France and Berlusconi’s Italy are still pretty left-wing places (and not safe places to be Jewish). Stephen Harper’s Canada has been too overwhelmed by the Obama of their past – Trudeau — who socialized and wussified the country.
Australia threw out a great leader in John Howard for a leftist regime. Israel’s survival is in doubt, and while they hate the left in Poland, they also have a long history of hating Jews.
Your best bet — move to Red State America and get them to secede.
LOL! Been thinking along those same lines, but where’re you gonna go where it’s not already socialist?
There are no habitable planets yet.
In two weeks it’s Brazil for me (Recife). I’ve got six months free rent and after that I’ll find a nice girl who likes the US passport and make babies. Then they can’t kick me out. John Galt, Johnny Depp- who cares? Samba, feathers and caipirinhas baby.
Hong Kong, Singapore, Ireland, New Zealand, Chile and Estonia are the only ones on my potential radar. Unfortunately none give enough marginal freedom to balance the loss of family and friends. They’ve got me by the short & curlies so to speak.
So for now, it’s tax mitigation, building businesses offshore, and relaxing to stay under that pesky 250, 150, 120 or however many thousand it is.
It’s a turd sandwich and apparently we might all have to take a bite.
Unless anyone wants to start creating man-made islands with me. There’s no way that off-world is the only option, although it is the ultimate– with 3 dimensions to escape in even Obama can’t chain us all.
My dark horse: Russia. Strictly God, Czar & Country. And I hear they bump off the media. What’s not to love?
Ouray, CO would be my first choice.
However, with the thought of the nation following Obama’s written and verbal (hey, he did tell us if you looked) descent into at least a semi national-socialist state, the best choics IMHO would be Singapore.
Go East, young man.
You have my permission to become an expatriate, but please keep doing the Poliwood show. I do believe you’ve found your online niche.
The people on the left keep saying that they want to secede. I propose that the leaders from both sides get together and negotiate a plan to divide the country blue state/red state and then to adopt a mechanism to implement the plan. I am tired of the cheating that is now the Democrat party’s standard operating procedure and I am tired of the criminal mind set of the Democrat party. It seems that a plan that would have each congressional district vote on whether they will join the red state union or the blue state union is the way to go.
Had hay land in Ouray twenty years ago. It has gone south, bought out by retired Democrat California teachers, fleeing high tax liberals and built log McMansions, ran for office ’cause they had the time and pensions and started ‘improving’ things. Paving roads that got little traffic, computers and psychiatrist. Taxes got so that marginal four generation ranchers couldn’t income up the taxes from all the ‘improvement’, so they sold out to more lefties.
You know the drill.
But I do want to state emphatically it is not over, even the Messiah knows it. I don’t believe he is that cold that he would still be campaigning 13 cities today with the passing of his Grandma if he knew, really KNEW, it was over.
So, get out and vote, go out swinging at the minimum.
If Mr Obama ever reads this, condolences on your Grandma. A Grandparent’s passing is tough.
Roger
But even France has CNN—you can’t escape!
France? Italy. Real food, real people, real wine, and a government that’s even more screwed up than ours is going to be if Obama wins.
Naw–stay here and fight! Don’t be a wuss like that )@*$&$ Alec Baldwin and other libs who run away crying when things don’t go their way. We’ll survive these four years of Obama–IF he wins tomorrow–and we’ll be here to pick up the pieces and get somebody back in who’ll get it right!
Remember: running away crying is the liberal M.O. Be strong!
Hey, Dar… just a reminder. I made a living writing comedy for a good many years. The last time I spent a lot of time in France, I was in the midst of a love affair with a French woman. It didn’t work out. I’m not going back.
Roger L. Simon could always move to Texas—a red state. However, he would be expected to forsake the Lakers and cheer the Rockets.
Heh. Tomorrow, the wife and I become Australian citizens (dual with the US). Since we work here and get taxed to the teeth, we want the right to vote. Such an American attitude, no?
It occurs to me that y’all should emigrate here … given Australia’s small population,it wouldn’t take many of us to turn it into a conservative paradise, haha!
No way, David. That is a deal breaker, as you know (much as I love barbecue).
“…— move to Red State America and get them to secede.”
And if the libocrats do carry out their agenda, there will be a seccessionist movement. Except this time, the libbies will be too chicken to fight – and I guaran-d*mn_tee ya that the military won’t exactly be on their side either. It’s going to be interesting watching the libs starve and freeze to death in the dark.
NOW, when it’s too late, we can regret not expanding on Apollo and opening up the asteroid belt as the next true frontier. Bummah!
Singapore is not exactly the place you want to be if you are on the hunt for “freedom.” The place is free market but there is censorship, intimidation of opposition and a feeling of being in a pressure cooker.
Hong Kong is similar, although it’s much more freewheeling. But at the end of the day you’re still in the People’s Republic.
Liberals have the advantage of Europe to run to. Conservatives seem to be limited in their choices for Reaganist/Libertarian havens to run to.
Not me.
I’m moving to Alaska and joining the Alaska Independence Party.
(Just kidding.)
what about India? It is setting up to be a 21st Century powerhouse, but its parts are extremely confusing, and therefore there is lots of room for personal freedom.
Here we go again, with talk of a new civil war, this time red state vs. blue state, conservative vs. liberal. I have my own proposal: We conservatives get to keep all 50 states, and the liberals all get to leave the country they hate so much. Let Europe or Africa or Arabia take ‘em.
Does this mean all the lib ex-patriot trash leaves conservative Canada back to the newly “enlightened” US?
My son is currently living in Italy. I told him that if Obama wins, the rest of us are coming over. If I have to live in a statist culture, I might as well have history, good food and the Pope to soften the blow.
Like someone commented on another blog, I’m already practicing saying, “Not my president.”
One word, IDAHO
Consider the NW corner of South Carolina. Lovely. Low taxes, strong conservative ethic, lakes, woods and mountains, plenty of room…oops, I just blew the secret.
I’m with Roger on this one, though I will wait and see. When his country becomes more authoritarian than France then I’ll move.
If I’m going to live under a statist dirigiste regime, why settle for second best. At least for the French this is their national character, the anglo-saxon is to cheap to pull off a decent social democracy, in America it will just be a slightly less scuzzy version of the UK.
Come to Tennessee,Roger…we have the best team in the NFL and the best women’s college basketball team..then again we also have the Grizzlies(ahem…)
I’d take Houston over NYC or LA…or any of the washed-up nanny state hell holes. Maybe Dubai??
Ireland’s not half bad, especially if you’re part Mick. They may be Maoists, but they’re clean-cut Maoists. Also, they’ve never had the resources to implement.
I stay where I am, attend more school board meetings, start the endless lawsuits, eat more red meat, … and earn my freedom.
Naw, I am with the Russian Federation. Flat tax, people who aren’t ashamed of their own culture (just the opposite), great food, and beautiful women.
Really crappy drivers though. And learning the language is a bear.
Actually if my wife would go with me I’d be in the hill country between Austin and San Antonio tomorrow. Good people, good food and common sense. But she’s a California girl so it looks like South of France or nothing.
Well Freedom hasn’t lost YET!
But if the 0 wins,I am personally going to call and complain about every bill the dumbos put forward.Feinstein and Boxer are going to learn to hate my name! They are going to hear a great big NO! from me every time they try and screw this country.
I’d suggest that we all do the same.
Nope, I’ll never leave America. Maybe some temporary sojourn, that’s all. I was born here, liberty was my birthright, and I’ll give up my last breath before I give up my birthright.
Freedom Fries
Freedom Dressing
Freedom Toast
Freedom Kissing
Freedom Ticklers
Freedom Three-way
France has nuclear power, too…
Utah, baby. No really. Awesome place to be. And I won’t even make you cheer for the Jazz.
What happend? I’m 58 yrs old and I’ve lost my Country…can’t watch prime time tv anymore, just indisciminate sex and glamorizing immoral behavior…lost interest in the NFL, too many criminals and thugs getting paid enormous amounts of money and experiencing no concequences for their behavior…same with college football…and you guys tell me there is no other place on earth left for what I consider normal people…now I’m really bummed out…
There’s always sunny Venezuela! Wait, no.
I wouldn’t pack just yet anyway, Roger – McCain is going to win this thing.
Allen Iverson is now a Detroit Piston…anything can happen.
I am with those who say move to Russia. There’s a society that makes absolutely no pretenses whatsoever about those pesky “freedoms”. I’ll take truth in advertising over mawkish posturing any day!
Welll,the small town and rural areas of France are much more conservative than Paris and their Media. Apparently a lot of Frenchman have been oiling the gardens for years. Between coal and nuclear power their economy may just be able to adjust better than the US would under the Obama, Reid, and Pelosi triumvirate.
Obama, seven to three states.
Roger:
Take me with you!
When I said in 1997 I was bailing if Blair won the General Election, I wasn’t just flapping my gums. I left less than two years later. The problem is an Obama presidency has the possibility of screwing countries other than the US. At least Blair and Brown and the NuLabour morons were restricted to shafting their own country. But the US has such global influence that the fall-out from the sort of warmed-over Marxian nonsense that Obama seems to cleave to could keep us all, US and non-US, in recession a lot longer than would otherwise be the case.
Let us all move to Georgia. That way we can say we all died trying.
i agree, if im going to live in a socialist country then why not go whole hog socialism and live in france.
Glenn: “Actually if my wife would go with me I’d be in the hill country between Austin and San Antonio tomorrow. Good people, good food and common sense.” Yep, that’s a good place to be; my wife and I are there. Add guns, attitude, broadband internet, ups delivery for good books, plenty of firewood, and stout Vietnam vets at your side. An unbeatable combination. Maybe a little mustard seed beginning for our own Civil Security Force. Maybe we could learn to speak French, even , for our conservative colleagues who might have to depart the coasts?
…and look…govt health…socialism…
go.don’t talk. go go go.
…ps: nuclear works so well and is safe in France because it is GOVT RUN and CONTROLLED! viva la socialisme
Barcelona.
I vote for travel to India.
Developing Country => Lots of opportunity
Hates marxism
Thinks climate change is rubbish.
Alaska.
Ref: Terry moving to Italy. I just got off the phone before I came to check out Roger’s post. I had just finished telling a friend that we are about to become a combination France and Italy except without the good food. I lived in Italy. Anyone that is enamored with socialism should live (not just visit as a tourist, its not the same thing) in Italy for more than a year and live like the average Italian. You’ll be singing a different tune on your return.
“If McCain loses, I’m moving to France….What could be better?”
move into the sf bayarea and slap a liberal, better high (than sipping wine) and no hangover
Fredonia.
Poland. I’m moving to Poland. I’ll teach English as a second language.
Scott
Re: the responses about moving to Italy:
1. Nobody complains as much about living in the USA as an expat Italian.
2. And nobody complains as much about living in Italy as that same expat who just returned to Italy.
You see, it’s easy to get accustomed to a country where you can call up the cable company on a Sunday morning and correct your bill. Efficiency and convenience are seductive mistresses.
It’s hardly living if you can’t speak the native tongue fluently. Whatever they say expats never overcome being aliens. Stay home and fight the Left to the death. Home is everything.
Of course I understand that all this talk of leaving the country is a joke at previous crying celebrities responses. But in spite of that, the sentiment has an undertone that’s mildly worrying. So to speak towards that, this Asian Catholic proffers a phrase from Jewish wisdom that seems particularly applicable here:
“gam zeh yaavor”… “This, too, shall pass”
No need to leave the country. It’s a big, strong, vital one, despite the economic downturn and recent cynicism. The fundamentals of what makes America strong haven’t changed; it’s just that those fundamentals reputation has taken a bruising, slightly deserved, but not totally so. Anyway, I believe it’ll take more than a bad president to really screw up this country. I may not like the direction it would head in for 4 years of an Obama presidency, but even he couldn’t undermine the heart and soul of what makes this country great.
I guess you have to be an immigrant to appreciate what a truly screwed up government is. Trust me, despite my distaste for an Obama administration, it won’t be anything remotely resembling a genuinely broken government. It’ll just have the potential to be a bad one. And who knows? Sometimes when put to the test, people rise above themselves.
Call me Pollyannaish, but it’ll take more than Obama/Biden to screw this nation up.
i’ve been thinking about china – heard they’re pretty capitalist there… but great idea on france! i do love the food!
Ah, not between Austin and San Antonio, just come to Austin. We need a large influx of good conservatives to take this town back from Dan Rather’s daughter and her leftist twits. Nothing would make me happier than turning Travis county RED like most of the rest of the state!
If Obama wins, I ain’t moving anywhere. I’ll just have to pray that his victory brings back real Republicans.
There’s no where to really run to. France will take more of your money than the USA, even under Obama. And there are plenty of places in the USA where the food is damn good.
Maybe now we’ll finally be able to interest our Republican representatives in a little thing called federalism. It’s a dirty word when you’re in power, but it’ll save your butt when the other guy is having his go at the wheel. Let ‘em have their Universal Healthcare – in California, and DC, or wherever. Give the funding to the States and let each State choose between being its own Single-Payer or refunding the tax money as a credit. Same for Social Security, Medicaid, etc. Any money that’s spent on people can just as easily be spent by the States as the Feds.
‘Twas not for my wife’s cancer, we would be on our way to New Zealand, the South Island. Beautiful. Close to Christ Church, but not too close.
France is the friendliest I’ve seen in 35 years. The real estate bubble affected France and Spain seriously. Time to buy. We’ve been thinking about it for several years. Obama might be the push I need.
Say hi to the dissident frogman for me.
But you know Simon, someone will have to pen the conservative West Wing to nettle the communist with a little “c” Obama while in office, complete with it’s conversion to Colorado shale oil standard leading the United States to be inducted into OPEC where President Abigail Crockett as the leader of the largest energy exporting nation on Earth, will weald her “bully pulpit” to rein in Islamic monarchies, revolutionizing womens right in the Middle East, discover the cure for AIDS in a small African village, be threatened with nuclear attack by the North Korean’s and saved from the same under the umbrella of the missle defence program instituted by the Bush admin, Frog march Al Gore and James Hansen on racketeering charges in regard to the Great Californian “solar mirror” scandal,
ectera…
Maybe you should stay.
Man oh, man. All this talk about moving to Europe. You guys much be rich given the value of the dollar to euro.
To those living in the Hill country of Texas. Is it possible to buy a bit of land on one of those hills. Put a trailer in place. The object would be to have a 360 degree view which would allow for maximum kill zone. I figure I’ll bring in enough ammunition and food to last through the four years.
The Institute is against permanent moves, no matter what. If Obama wins, conversatives should stay in America and fight for deregulation of banks, suspension of habeus corpus, immigrant deportation, reinstatment of school prayer, abortion prevention, the death penalty and all the other things they believe in. They should attempt to lure Antonin Scalia off the bench and into electoral politics. They should put their shoulders to the wheel and combat the clean air conspiracy, battle with all their might against efforts to protect loser animals, and fight tooth and nail against entitlements, especially for the lazy. Remember conservatives: conservatives don’t run when they lose. They only lose when they run.
The Playdo Institute
Handel Glassberg, President
ElMondo – I pray you are correct.
I look at Obama’s life over the past 20 years, the friends he has, and I have to wonder – what if he governs the same way?
Don’t like the supreme court? Have the conservative justices killed. Pardon the killers. Done.
Don’t have a cooperative Senate? Have a few of them killed. Pardon the killers. Done.
We’ve never had someone in power who both thinks he is transcendent, and who genuinely hates our nation. According to his wife, Obama believes he can do ANYTHING. And according to Obama himself, our constitution is deeply flawed and must be remade.
How genuinely resilient is our system? I pray we never find out.
Are kidding me? Even an America that sucks is head and shoulders above any foreign country. Besides, conservatives never leave America. Only liberals do.
I’m going to vote for McCain today then going to the woods to bury my guns.
HG: They should attempt to lure Antonin Scalia off the bench and into electoral politics.
You scare the daylight out of me more than Obama could ever. Scalia is much better for the country where he is now. Even if he were elected president, he could only serve 8 years. A Senator? One of 100 voices. A Representative? One of 500+. A Supreme Court Justice, one of 9, serves for life.
Consider Hong Kong.
Super low taxes. Low crime. Warm (if humid) weather. None of the chicks are fat. China’s lack of democracy won’t affect your day to day life in HK. Language isn’t really a problem either, having been a British colony for 100 yrs.
Despite being part of China, it actually respects capitalism more than the US currently does. Hong Kong has a per capita GDP higher than the US (yes, it does).
Plus, it is one place Islamic terrorists will not attack.
Another immigrant point of view.
We thought the same in Argentina, one president cannot destroy a country(the constitution of Argentina is very similar to the US, enter General Peron and the unions and the country never recovered. Tell me if the goverment is giving money away how many people have the moral fortitude to say: “no this is not mine to keep” and vote for somebody that will give that property back to its rightful owner?
The Democrats want take away my property, indoctrinate my children and force us to accept pervert behavior. I consider them my personal enemies! I saw one country going down and I am not going to see the only one I love going down without a fight, and I mean it.
On Tonight’s episode of The West Wing: Conservative Years
President Crockett second guess’ her decision to round up known enviromental activists in prelude to the forecasted Santa Ana winds hitting Southern California. She must weighing a limited suspention of Habius Corpus vs. the resulting lack of human set wildfires.
The ex-ACLU lawyer turned SC Justice, Rita “Buzzy” Ginsu, gives Abby legal trouble over the results.
Move to China. They are loosening up, are expected to turn complete democratic in 2020. Meantime, the United States is meeting them on Dec. 21, 2012, the official end of the world doomsday.
Well, I live in Germany right now. Bah! You can have this European socialism.
Sadly, I still own homes in IL and WA. If Rossi wins, I’ll push hubby to head to WA after retiring from the AF. If not, I’m seriously looking to move back to TX, our home of legal residence. Hill Country if we can find a job.
For what it worth, the majority of new immigrants to Israel are from France. At least it seems like this in Israel: if you meet a fresh immigrant now (no Hebrew at all, and this marveling of surrounding people), most probably he will speak french, not russian as it was in 90ies.
The question is which country’s courts will establish polygamy as a “right”.
Well, speaking as someone who actually LIVES in France: it’s vastly overrated. The wine is cheap (unlike the US who smothers it in sin taxes) but I can find more variety of food/restaurants in any major US city (although, granted, the market shopping is nice—if I leave, I’d have to bring my butcher with me: his rotisserie farm-raised chickens are too good to give up). Most of the American expats here are annoying, self-congratulatory, shrill limousine liberals who don’t get that 99.9% of France can’t afford to live the way they do, and our President is a Napoleon-redux wannabe (no, despite popular imagination in the US, he ain’t no conservative). Housing is hyper-expensive, labor-saving appliances (a la dishwashers and clothes dryers) are far rarer than in the US, and the taxes will suck out any ambition you might have. The State is so all-pervasive that it is hard to find any area of life that is not directed by it.
I’m thinking Estonia is more up your alley: if only the weather weren’t so cold and the language weren’t so hard!!!
This is why I love hanging around conservatives. When the chips are down, you laugh as well as try to figure out what to do (except Bill Quick, who thinks W is the AntiChrist (rolls eyes)).
The great thing about O winning is that the Dems control all 3 houses and are RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THE DECISIONS. Maybe they’ll get it right, but for a group with an averagee 10% rating, I doubt it. Even the Rep controlled Congress at its nadir was at 30%
This is an awesome thread. You secessionists neo-cons posting how they want bust from the union.
Well, geniuses, it’ll never happen. You don’t really believe that in the nuclear age, you’re going to be able to do something about it, do you?
Also, if you think your dollar is worthless now, wait until you see the other side of a rebellion; the side where international exchange rates sky rocket over a dollar held by an unstable government.
While you’re at it, keep posting your ideas publicly, so that you can disappear from a grocery store parking lot. I wouldn’t make a big scene and go into someone’s home when I could simply grab them in an easy spot.
What you are talking about is treason, morons. You’d better make DAMN sure that you know what that means.
The best part is that you aren’t on here complaining about the lack of a gold standard, the destruction of the Constitution, or the fact that you pay for the most SOCIALIST government mechanisms ever invented (Social Security, Corporate bailouts).
To hear most of you talk, it’s like you would have been happier under Bush. Great. Awesome. Since he chucked your Habeas Corpus, you’ll enjoy your new arrest, without a lawyer or list of charges, forever.
You are playing a dangerous game; and I doubt one of you has the balls to play it. And, if you did, you’d be amazed how many of your own kind would suddenly turn ‘federalists,’ to save their own estates.
I’m with ElMondo. My thoughts are here: http://defsi.typepad.com/deafening_silence/2008/10/an-open-letter-to-the-next-president.html
Actually, I think it will be fun living in lala land if Obama wins. Failure is part of a healthy learning process. Sure, the cost may put me on my death bed, but if Obama can rise from the living, why can’t I rise from the dead?
I’m not much on running from liberals, my ancestors came here to start something new, I’m not giving up! “All things shall pass”
My husband is a rep and i am a hardline dem…I voted for McCain. I’m scared as hell. This is our country, it was bought & paid for with the blood and tears of many. They have torn our Constitution to shreds as well as our Commandments. When i was very young i was sent to church and we had Pledge of Allegiance in school…i am not overly religious but i had structure in my life and it made me a fine person, difficult at times i have been told but fine. Today i am praying very hard.
If Obama wins, there is plenty of work to do right here at home. How about building and growing a viable alternative news media industry (including and beyond broadcast and print) to fill the empty shoes of the one that so spectacularly failed and compromised itself this year? How about organizing to ensure all elections and voter registrations are fair, accurate, and legal? (Can we finally put to rest the shame of dead people voting in America this century?) Or how about continuing to support the important “counterculture” organizations that have already made such an important mark in supplying ideas to our national conversation: The Cato Institute, the Heritage Foundation, the American Enterprise Institute, F.I.R.E., Young Americans for Freedom, The Federalist Society? How about opening our universities and colleges to real diversity of thought and speech? How about supporting young independent filmmakers and other artists who don’t want to toe the “Hollywood” line? How about including real education in economics, history, civics, and true debate and critical thinking in high schools?
We’ve learned from this election year that our country needs us more than ever. Pick an area and pour your heart into it, starting November 5th.
Or you could also devote the next four years of your life to promoting the investigation and reform of things like this: It would be great if the campaign finance mess exploited by the Obama campaign could be cleaned up in time for the next election–or are we all just going back to sleep?
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/has-foreign-money-bolstered-obama/
wow, that might be more insane than the other things I’ve heard Rodger.
Rachel’s right on all counts.
If Dems really control all 3 houses, then they’ll be responsible for everything they do come two years from now during the next election, and they’ll pay for their majorities for everything they’re about to do.
Take note of the budget deficit, price of gas, the DJIA, your 401k, current tax rate and savings today. Write it down. Two years from now, compare it. I think it’ll be pretty clear what the Demos have done.
As for me, today, I’m voting and telling Obama to “Keep the Change”, and pulling the lever for McCain.
61. ElMondo
Call me Pollyannaish, but it’ll take more than Obama/Biden to screw this nation up.
Yeah, but they’ll have lots of help from Reid, Pelosi, Frank and the rest of the usual mountebanks to do the job.
For my part, I’ve got zero debt, a new house with no mortgage, a 2009 BMW 528i currently en route and enough cash to maintain my life style for at least 7 years without dipping in to my stock portfolio, which is currently worth about 55% of what it was a year ago.
“Living well is the best revenge.”
There is always the option of doing what John Galt did in “Atlas Shrugged”.
Hey, Promoguy: I’ll see ya on the high ground!
Sounds like you need to share the wealth, Ricketyback, you selfish gnome.
I’m telling Barack on you!
Scott
I recommend the Isle of Man (Mann?). I’ve never been there, but it looks beautiful. The top tax rate is 10%, they allow guns, and as far as I can tell they are not yet infested with Muslims.
They are officially part of Britain, but with their own parliament and very different laws.
Well I live in the only state in the union that can legally secede. When The Republic of Texas was annexed by the US, it’s my understanding that the agreement included a golden parachute allowing Texas to secede in the future or split itself apart into three smaller states. So go ahead Obama, Reid and Pelosi: bring it on =8^]
So, when you say you’re going to move to “red states,” you mean like, say, Colorado, Nevada, Virginia, Missouri, and North Carolina?
Yeah. Good luck with that.
I won’t be retiring to France, trop cher, mon cher, so I will just content myself with retiring to my little Fortress of Solitude (small extra room with rocking chair and reading lamp)and curling up with La Bonne Cuisine de Madame E. Saint-Ange, or my Cordon-Bleu cookbook and dream about the recipes that I will never be able to make because of the regulations that will be imposed on me against enjoying myself ever again.
Woohoo! I got a nod on Insty’s blog!
Although for the record: While I’m truly an immigrant, my parents dragged me over here when I was the ripe old age of 3 years and change. So I’ve essentially grown up American. But, I’ve heard enough from my parents, as well as the parents of others from other nations to gain a real sense of what constitutes truly dysfunctional governments. Under the worst Presidents – Carter comes immediately to mind – the US is still far more functional, effective, and principled than many 3rd world nations at their best. So again, I understand the gist of the “let’s move” statements are jokes, but despite that, I still can’t join in, even in jest. Where would I move to that’s really any better?
Although I sympathize with the food rationales… France, Italy (*drool*)…
80. Capn Eddie Ricketyback:
Yeah, but they’ll have lots of help from Reid, Pelosi, Frank and the rest of the usual mountebanks to do the job.
Hey, I’m not sayin’ they won’t give it a good try. All I’m saying is that even the most determined shovel-wielder needs time to dig up a mountain. More than the 4 to 8 years that an elected (and possibly re-elected) President would have.
I’ve fantasized about leaving, but I’m too tied to where I live after 30 years.
Since departing the Democratic Party fold after 9/11, I’ve lost almost all my friends, so I’m lonely, but I still have a few. For the last seven years I’ve been living in an area (the Bay Area) which is already what Obama wants to make the rest of the country, more or less, and so I am somewhat inured to it.
But I agree with the writer above who welcomed the advent of our new socialist overlords in a situation where they can be held accountable for everything they do, with the end of the Blame Bush Era.
One thing people haven’t yet commented much on is the explosion of scandal we are likely to get in an Obama administration. Just look at this election, with ACORN and the illegal credit card contributions as harbingers (non-scandals because the press wants Obama elected, but how long will the hands-off policy apply once he’s in power?)…
Jamie Irons
Whoops… the “80. Capn Eddie Ricketyback:” was supposed to be italicized so it looks like I’m quoting him. Somehow, I made it look like a separate, misnumbered comment. Sorry folks; markup blunder on my part.
I thought they were nothing but a bunch of cheese eating surrender Monkeys!
I decided recently that commenting on blogs is howling in the wind and largely a waste of time. But it’s 9:30 AM here on the Upper West Side of Manhattan, I just got back from voting and I thought I’d share one last time.
The 36th District has two voting machines assigned to it and though the room is crowded, lines are moving briskly. When I’m only three places back, one of the election workers taking signatures at the table lets out a holler:
“Dis guy is a Republican. He can’t vote in that machine. That machine don’t vote Republican.”
I recognize one of my neighbors standing before her with his nine or ten year old son looking somewhat dumbfounded and embarrassed.
“Yes he can,” comes the reply from one of the other election workers seated at the table. “The supervisor came by said they can use it.”
“Not that machine,” insists the first worker. “That machine don’t work for Republican.”
After the two election workers go back and forth about it noisily for a minute or two, the voting booth known to accept ballots from both parties becomes available and my neighbor goes behind the curtain to cast his secret ballot.
Welcome to Obamanation.
Jamie, the blame Bush era will go on for at least another four years.
Any criticism of Obama will be answered with the stock-”we’re working through all the bad that the Bush years produced”.
Promoguy, I am certain you are right about that. Except the time frame may even be longer.
Wait, aren’t we still working through the blame Bill Clinton era?
I’m surprised you wouldn’t pick Cannes with the movie connection…
Rog, four years is what first came to mind. Actually to be more precise, it will last as long as the left can get away with it.
Jake-Not sure what you’re talking about? You mean the draw down on the military and the not recognized war on terror.
Roger, you don’t really have to go all that far. You can, as it turns out, see France from Canada. A small bit of France that is true, but France does include some small islands just off Canada’s Atlantic coast. Makes it so much easier to make weekend visits to ‘Bamaland until the counter revolution returns the U.S. to its traditional insanity.
If the British people could replace Winston Churchill after WWII, and the Germans could elect Hitler before WWII, voters can do anything, no matter how stupid. But at least in Great Britain Margaret Thatcher came along and put things right.
Promoguy, To answer your question, yes it is possible. There are usually very few restrictions on property ownership in Texas, particularly rural property. I’m a Realtor and have helped purchase several properties like that over the years, even though it’s not where I work most of the time. For veterans, Texas has a Texas Veteran’s Land board that even makes purchasing vacant property easier (it’s often difficult to get a loan on unimproved property.)
I moved to Austin in 1990 and you couldn’t get me to move away from here for anything.
Jamie,
You’ve still got your friends in the blogosphere (although it’s not the same and folks can’t easily get together). I also think that the “blame Bush” trope still has legs, since he did “so much damage” yada yada. I don’t want the country to go to hell in a handbasket since we have to live here. I hope it goes well, but fear it won’t.
Bye.
….oh and never reffer to foie gras as ‘paté’. The will go crazy.
I’m afraid that your fear of Socialism is a tad off mark or at least irrelevant. First there’s semantics. The “meaning” of the word Socialism, like “liberal” or “conservatism” or “family values” has decayed and morphed over the years due to, say, the 24/7 news cycle and people’s misuse of the language in general, and has rendered and objective definition of what it is you’re truly saying when you say “socialism”. Chomsky says that at no time can two people saying the exact same words to each other know exactly and objectively what the other person “means”.
Along with that is the rather obtuse paradox, where, if you bail out the banks or financial institutions, it’s not socialism, but if you bail out people, it is. If I’m not mistaken, actual people run these institutions. And it may be another misunderstanding on my part, but I seem to recall (and maybe this is old time traditional conservatism – where the hell did it go?) but isn’t one of the cherished tenets of conservatism supposed to be some abstract concepts like “free trade” and “no government interference”? And again, it goes back to semantics/linguistics and the trivialization of our “information society” due to a lot of things. I guess what I’m trying to say is that I don’t necessarily think giving money away to anybody for nothing is a good idea. I just don’t remember the last time somebody spoke about it and actually followed through. The ultimate frustration in all this, no matter which “side” you’re on, is that there is no objective meaning in language anymore.
BTW, semantics is a really interesting subject and philosophy to study. A few authors (if you’re interested) are Wittgenstein, Montague, and (gulp) Chomsky. I know you probably recoiled at that last name, but when Chomsky is not up on his political soap box, he has quite a vast and interesting treatise on the subject, which in a nutshell, is the meaning in communications. Also, if you can hack it, delving into “Post-modernism” (POMO) might give you more than a few insights into the dire straits of our under-educated electorate and how manipulation on both sides renders the idea of Democracy as something almost quaint and kitschy.
But overall, you shouldn’t be bummed. Perhaps humbled, as you’re going to get served the same bitter brew and burnt toast that I’ve endured over the last 8 years. And let’s face it: Your candidate just ain’t offering much, just the same used car with a different sign on it. And his marketing people should have had their collective asses kicked out the door a long time back. And I’ll never for the life of me be able to figure the “logic” (?) behind his choice for Palin. It was either a crapshoot type gamble (something he has a reputation for) or a cynical ploy to attract women voters. Maybe drinking half a bottle of Bourbon helps.
But you should have some measure of hope, either in our forefathers thinking this out well enough to include in our form of “government” sufficient “checks and balances”, or in the basic malfunction inherent in our species, based on human foibles and other weaknesses of the human spirit, to make sure that the system doesn’t run that efficiently even with a majority. To look at it another way, even though Bush/Cheney nearly destroyed what remnants of the Bill of Rights remain, even in their lust for power and greed unprecedented in history, they still managed to screw up badly enough that they didn’t get everything they wanted. So there’s still hope in America, even if your guy loses.
Have a double Black Maple Hill and persevere…..
Patriots don’t run – we will all stay here. That said, I am thinking about trading in San Francisco for Sandpoint Idaho or Jackson Hole.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH How did I miss this? NO, not here, well unless you have hidden every penny you have ever made, and you’ve made ALOT, create a SCI, the equivelent of a limited liabilities corp., for whatever property you may buy( your children will hate you though as inheritance laws are a NIGHTMARE) and you can have EU citizenship, to claim the welfare offered…you might rent, but rentals cost alot if they are in a livable state…stay in the US, and fight for it…oh if someone asks or wonders, am sort of stuck here because I love my husband…
I haven’t posted to Roger’s site in a long long long time.
My step-daughter said it best: “Never underestimate the power of a free ride”.
We’re very worried for our grandson who is about to enter the US Air Force Academdy. Also, our other relatives serving in the military.
I go from trying to be optimistic, to having a sick stomach – wanting to wretch. Excited about the new change – then bursting into tears of fear.
We live in New Jersey. I grew up here. It is a beautiful state and I love it. But it has become increasing oppressive to live here tax-wise, and it has a good share of corruption. My husband and I have a small business and it’s becoming more and more difficult to maitain it – after 20 years.
For the first time, I am seriously considering a move – Idaho, Wyoming, Utah sounds good to me.
Do you think Idaho accept her new tired and huddled masses?
Yes,Don,and they have those cute cats as well