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Litterbugs of Amazon

February 21, 2005 - 3:04 pm - by Roger L Simon

Several people have called to my attention that some “progressive thinkers” have been going to the Amazon URLs where my books are sold and giving those books one-star (out of five) reviews and leaving derisory comments. These people (or person, who knows?) were undoubtedly motivated by their dislike of the content on this blog. In several cases, they admit they didn’t even read the books.

This juvenile behavior is, of course, a problem with the Amazon system. I am not sure if it is actually costing me money (turning people off buying the books), but I can promise you it doesn’t make me feel good. It’s sort of like waking up in the morning and finding graffiti all over the front wall of your house – and not very artistic graffiti at that – more like idiotic scrawls.

Amazon, as far as I can tell, does not allow for the correction of this kind of thing. And even so, trying to talk to a human being at the online behemoth, unless you’re Jeff Bezos’ mother, seems nigh on impossible. If anyone reading this knows how I can contact Amazon about this directly, I would be appreciative. I am sure there are other authors who have been similarly slimed.

UPDATE: Thanks to Allah(pundit), I just dialed the 800 number for AMazon (800-201-7575) and spoke to an actual person who was very cordial and helpful. They are looking into the matter and will be back to me within three business day. I will keep you posted on this admittedly minor adventure.

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23 Comments, 23 Threads

  1. 1. Robert Crawford

    They used to take complains about this sort of thing and fix it pretty quickly. But that was a year or two ago; it may be that the volume of crap has overwhelmed them.

  2. 2. Allah

    1-800-201-7575

  3. 3. chuck

    Actually, I don’t mind seeing those one-star reviews, especially as they are often interspersed among four-star reviews. Knowing who doesn’t like a book, and why, can be a selling point for me. A review such as this:

    The book will probably be historically significant only in that the author’s fascination and glorification of such insidious real-world personas as Ashcroft and Freeh lends it a bit of Leni Riefenstahl kitch.

    tells me that you are on the right side. It *is* a bit disturbing that there are that many nut cases out there, but that has been our world since 9/11.

  4. 4. Will Collier

    They’ll remove “reviews” that are obviously just personal attacks. I’ve had it done myself for the one book I have on Amazon, send them an email.

  5. 5. Mr. Davis

    Doesn’t your publisher handle things like this? I suppose that’s obviously not the case, but then what are they doing for their cut? Didn’t Maxwell Perkins used to get Scott Fitzgerals’s liquor?

  6. 6. Terrye

    I noticed that the same thing is starting to happen to Chrichton. I wonder if he has noticed.

  7. 7. marky48

    Ah Roger lighten up. Only Publishamerica authors worry about those. I think they add character to the site. Nobody wants to see a bunch of five-star reviews from their friends> I have two conservative hack reviews of my work. Anyone can see through them.

  8. 8. Roberts

    Roger, the same thing happened to a friend of mine’s first novel. He proved that the purported “reviewer” didn’t even have a copy of the book for which he had put up a fake review.

    I think that this part of Amazon is a huge scandal.

  9. 9. truepeers

    David Horowitz has called out the FrontPageMag readers to boost his star average at Amazon after the Chomsky bots have attacked him there. Maybe that’s what Roger wants?

  10. 10. Roger

    I was too embarrassed to say so, but I wouldn’t mind.

  11. 11. docweasel

    I don’t think its “minor”. It screws up a valuable service (user feedback, which I enjoy and find more honest and accessable than publisher blurbs and pro reviews) because of someone wanting to score cheap political points. I have to say I find this more prevalent on the left than the right, the idea that scoring cheap shots and winning meaningless battles (see the continued harping about Gannon) will somehow bring them real victories. I don’t think it will. It will just further alienate the general public against lefties and Dems. I don’t think anyone reading negative comments about Roger Simon unrelated to the books in question in an Amazon review is going to think any less of Simon, he is going to simply think less of the reviewer. If that reviewer has a lefty slant, I think they will just chalk it up to more lefty lunacy. That’s exactly why I call Freepers and fringe righties on their excesses. It doesn’t win you anything, it just convinces people you aren’t serious.

  12. 12. Ben

    Roger,

    As one who purchases from Amazon, let me assure you that comments of that nature have no bearing on my decision to purchase or not purchase a particular book. In many ways, reviews are like comments on a blog, in that they tell you as much about the person writing the comment as about the subject of the comment. Moreover, it’s just as easy to spot a troll. One of the things I routinely do is take a brief survey of the number of 1 and 5 star reviews to make an assessment about the quality of the overall score. If there are a lot of 1 star reviews that are obvious trolling, I take into account how that affects the overall score.

  13. 13. CT

    “I have to say I find this more prevalent on the left than the right, the idea that scoring cheap shots and winning meaningless battles (see the continued harping about Gannon) will somehow bring them real victories.”

    Agreed. I guess it’s the left wing equivalent of rhetorical masturbation. Can’t get a real victory, but they have to get satisfaction somehow.

  14. 14. Mike

    It really says something about the strength of ideas on the left when they put so much effort into sophomoric behavior such as this. If they spent half their time thinking up some good ideas to contribute to the democratic debate and less time with such pranks and the rest of their poisonous bile, they might do better at the ballot box.

    OK… I guess it’s asking a bit much for them to THINK… easier to play their games and spew their hate.

  15. 15. vegetius

    I took a look at the ‘reviews’. It seems it’s the same guy every time. I would be nice if he were actually buying the books and then panning them.

    But, it’s quite obvious that he’s he’s on a mission.

    I always see if the reviewer has posted other

    reviews and go to their page to see if there is a pattern. I wouldn’t get worried over this guy most folks who buy on Amazon are wise to the ways of the reviews. Chrichton is getting the same treatment though on a larger scale.

  16. 16. Ben

    vegetius -

    Also, look at the posting date of the reviews. Many were posted on the same day. That most likely means he didn’t actually read the books, but was more concerned with trashing the author.

    It was also interesting to note the books he reviewed favorable (e.g., Richard Clarke). Sort of tells you his leanings, doesn’t it?

  17. 17. pdq332

    Here’s what you do: Find one of those automatic bad reviews and follow the link to all of the other reviews by that reviewer. Then for each of those reviews, click as many times as you can to say that you did not find the review helpful. That’ll teach ‘em. Ha !
    ;-)

  18. 18. Joe Bonforte

    Amazon has an obvious fix that would do much to remedy this problem. They know who has bought what from them. They could easily give a much higher weight in their recommendation engine to people who are known to have purchased the item.

    And, given the fact that many books are in electronic form and indexed, there’s even a fix for those who did not buy a book from amazon. Just ask something like “what’s the fourth word on page 174″, and if that can be answered correctly, then again the review receives higher weight. (If it were not answered, the review would still be accepted – just weighted much lower.)

    The higher weight reviews can then be displayed more prominently, and of course their weight would be reflected in the average # of stars for the review.

  19. 19. Patrick Tyson

    I mentioned here last November that negative customer reviews were being added to Jane Smiley titles in the aftermath of an incendiary essay she wrote for Slate in the aftermath of the election. The essay was being linked in the reviews. Those reviews are no longer present. Good luck, Roger.

  20. 20. vegetius

    Ben:

    Yeah I noticed the ‘Clarke’ friendly review and the other preferences.

    Nice pick-up on the review dates!!!! I missed that. That should help Roger if he follows through with Amazon. He owes you an ‘attaboy’.

  21. 21. Patrick Tyson

    Done.

  22. 22. thibaud

    Any rating system that does not rate the raters will produce noise for the most part. Amazon needs to take a lesson from eBay.

  23. 23. George Purcell

    FWIW, Roger, I might look at and use Amazon ratings for toasters and hand drills, but not for books. Too subjective.

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