The Syrian Defense Minister called Arafat “the son of sixty thousand whores,” but Jimmy Carter called him “a powerful human symbol and forceful advocate” for a Palestinian homeland. Well, great minds can differ. I wonder if Jimmy is getting a cut.
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My, my, “the son of sixty thousand whores,” what a great summing up. Unfortunately, the link is broken.
I also think of Arafat as a “powerful human symbol and forceful advocate.” I suppose I’m coming from a different angle than Mr. Carter, but I won’t quibble with the words!
Frankly, I’m a little afraid that Jimmy is capable of this kind of self-delusion without pecuniary motive.
“Gegen Dummheit kämpfen die Götter selbst vergebens.”
Well it is nice to see Jimmy is consistent. Unfortunately he is consistently out of touch.
I only wish that Arafat had taken Jimmy with him. Maybe with Arafat going to Hell, Jimmy want be able to live without his Yassar and soon follow.
As a new reader of this forum/blog, is it okay if I call Jimmy Carter a friggin’ idiot. I mean I don’t want to break the rules. Why can’t he just keep to building houses. By the way, I held back by saying friggin’.
Arafat reminds me of that great line from Kismet: “father of none and son of many…”
And Carter really has grown into his role as Day Laborer in Chief. He should stick to that and brownnosing real deep thinkers like Michael Moore…
Man makes a film questioning a war on murderers and killers. This film makes millions of dollars, and it’s honored.
Man is murdered for making a film questioning the religion of the murderers and killers. This film is not even 15 minutes long.
The purveyors of subtlety and nuance must be drowning in irony.
Jimmy Carter singlehandedly represented my worst nightmares of what a Kerry Presidency would have been like. Unfortunately, as his comments prove beyond all doubt, Jimmy is (and has been) in desperate need of a neuroproctologist for lo these many years.
I hereby nominate Jimmy Carter as the worst President of the 20th century. Anyone second that?
Second that!
Second the Carter nomination!
I’m also going with “son of sixty thousand whores” as best description yet.
Carter is the son of sixty thousand liberals.
Since this thread is about J. Carter, I will give you my vent on him and the party he heads.
The one picture that will remain with me forever is Ex President Jimmy and that fat traitor M. Moore sitting together at the Dem. Convention.
How dare they!!! Has no political leader of what once was the Democratic Party, the decency to denounce that. Has one talking head for the ‘progressives” denounced Kerry and Edwards and McAuliffe for leading the party into the insanity of endorsing that vile propaganist? No , not one.
Moore is loved in Europe for his anti American diatribes. By having him in what should have been a seat of honor the Dems. were saying to the world that they endorsed what this vile man had been saying to the world about our country. They were saying that he was right and that everything about this country is bad and the election of Kerry would be our apology to the world for all the evils this man said we caused.
And no one in the Democratic party was willing to stand up and say No No No.
I am an independent who has problems with some of the political views of both parties. But, when I saw that vile man in a place of honor before a world wide audience of tens of millions, I vowed that I would never again vote for any Democrat for national office.
(end of rant)
I can quite understand Ex President Carter’s point of view after all it must have been traumatic for poor Mr Arafat trying to find which mother to blame,There is no mention of a father,in the circimstanes it is understandable that Yasser turned out to be criminal psychopath and a pederast.
TedM
Actually BOR put that question the other night to Evan Bayh (sp?). He did not answer.
BOR put that question to Lieberman last night and Lieberman agreed it was a terrible mistake to give Moore such a place of ‘honor’.
Lieberman came out quite strongly against the Moore wing of the party.
So there’s one sane democrat still standing.
a page at the Arlington National Cemetery web site dedicated to Cleo A. Noel, the US ambassador murdered in one of Arafatís Black September terror operations.
hat tip LGF
TedM,
Americans laugh at we Brits for having all our protocol and precedence but it works,it would have been explained to the odious bladder of lard that the box was for ex-presidents only.”Tradition you know”.Here they would have found room for him at the doughnut stand and kept his money.
PeterUK, you’ll be happy to know that this American is more fascinated by all the protocol and precedence than entertained by it. Although the Royal Family is pretty entertaining.
Syl, that’s quite depressing to hear that Bayh didn’t take that opportunity to say the right things. I can’t imagine he isn’t horrified and outraged at the way his party has demeaned itself and even its nation, in time of war no less.
But the head-scratching lapses of sanity and decency go back much past July. The Baghdad Boys visiting Iraq on the eve of war and saying its despotic ruler was more trustworthy than our president. Hilldebeast’s “what did he know?” stunt on the Senate floor. Kennedy’s unhinged calumny (“under new management”) hung on the hook of Abu Ghraib. And on and on. Never a peep of mortification or condenmnation from adult Dems. It’s been one of the most persistent and disturbing elements in a sea of bad weirdness for at least two years now.
It’s actually worrying that a party so off the track wasn’t repudiated much more strongly a week ago.
Check out the difference in reporting on Arafat’s death on the two CNNs. One of them looks like there should be animated hearts bursting around his face.
Yea! I thought it was me!
Sorry to be OT, everyone, but we might have to batten down the hatches again, via two common cents:
http://mytwocommoncents.blogspot.com/2004/11/ohio-democratic-party-weighs-in-on.html
The Ohio dems might have shot a salvo over the side.
“This thing’s getting a life of it’s own. I’m officially announcing a nation-wide alert for Republicans to brace themselves. The Democratic party of Ohio released a memo yesterday outlining what happens next. Here are the highlights….”
Sandy P, that link makes me want to vomit. I don’t hate any Democrats or even The Left, and I’m pretty far from a being a partisan voter, but if a big Florida mess happens, then the Democrats can count on me hating their guts for the next twenty years.
SandyP ó Realistically, what are the odds that Kerry will get over 137,000 out of the 155,000 votes, PLUS more than half of the military votes, especially when those are 3:1 for Bush?
Besides, I WANT to see the Democrats start playing recount games with the 2006 midterms coming up.
I strongly suspect this was what was going on in the Democratic camp Election Night: Kerry demanding a recount while the Party explained that there was no way in hell they were going to press for a recount when they were more than 3.5 million (now 4.5 million) votes down.
What are the chances of a recount in Wisconsin since there’s only about 12,000 votes separating Kerry and Bush?
Roger:
I suggest to everyone that they gather the Arafat coverage from the NY Times, the LA Times,and the BBC. The take the article from the National Review and staple them together. Then when a lefty talks to you about how all of Europe hates us and how they think we are stupid make them read the articles. Or when they tell you that anyone who voted for Bush is a fascist, moron, or whatever the current Air America buzz phrase of the week is. Then tell them anyone or any country who calls a baby killing terrorist who stole from his people, and started the modern and bloody form of terrorism that infests this world a charismatic hero is someone that I am glad that hates us. And if that is what they think is the nuanced and intelligent way to judge someone then tell them that being a moron is a blessing so you don’t have to sink to the level of moral depravity that they have reached.
A few comments…
Triggered by the above, a trick my wife and I do is dispose of all of our conservative magazines by putting them in waiting room magazine racks. Spreading the word… heh…heh…
I agree that Carter is a waste of oxygen. He reminds me of Jesse Jackson – find an international affair and get mixed up in it, with the starting assumption that any party allied with the US is wrong.
Another figure who has a vast amount of irony tied to him is Mikhail Gorbachev. Once the ruler of the evil empire, at the time when its biological weapons production was increasing and dwarfed that of Saddam’s, while it was commiting all sorts of atrocities in Afghanistan, and while it had the gulags running at full speed… he is now part of the “good guy” circuit on the left. The good news is that he doesn’t appear to be meddling. The bad news is he makes a very good living as Mr. Peace (since the left cannot imagine that Reagan was the real Mr. Peace). The best thing Gorby he ever did was unintentionally destroy the Soviet Union’s internal control apparatus, and then get overthrown in a coup.
TedM,
Please rant away. I could have said the same thing myself. I’m still registered as independent, but I can’t bring myself to vote for Democrats any more. I realized it at the same moment you did.
Occam’s Beard,
Peanut Boy let the Mullahs take over Iran. He helped the North Koreans get aid and a reactor from us in exchange for pretending to stop their nuke program. If a nuke goes off in New York tomorrow, my first thought will be “thanks, Jimmy”
I hereby nominate Jimmy Carter as the worst President in US history. Anyone second that?
BTW, you deserve some sort of reward for the word neuroproctologist.
Roger
I waited until after midnight to commment.
Your nation is at war. Yet, neither you nor any of your commenters (some of whom are vets) made any mention of Veterans Day, Nov 11.
Here in Canada it is called Rememberance Day and it is a big thing. I guess in the U.S. it is no big deal.
There is no small amount of irony here.
Rumblestrip
This thread is on Jimmy Carter and his kind words about Yasser Arafat. I have noticed that most criticisms from leftists such as yourself are out of left field and that my northern friend is no small amount of irony. Here is a discussion forum on Rememberance Day. Thanks for reminding me to take down my flag.
Back to JC, I am not suprised that he is praising Arafat. I’m suprised he is not going to the funeral. I was looking forward to seeing an image of Jimmy Carter weeping over Yasser’s coffin in future DNC TV spots. To show how much Democrats care about the little people.
“no small amount of irony”
What a nuanced phrase. It could mean … anything!
ìAnd no one in the Democratic party was willing to stand up and say No No No.î
Not only that, but it didnít persuade Mickey Kaus, Andrew Sullivan, Daniel Drezner and many others from foolishly supporting John Kerry. I will never forget.
Syl:
I am a Hoosier and I think I will call Bayh’s office and tell whoever answers the phone that the next time the subject comes up I would appreciate it if the Senator just spoke up and told us how he feels about a man [Moore] that most of the people if Indiana find repulsive. Just spit it out Senator.
Carter is definitely a strange case. I’ve tried to make sense of his slavish attachments to dictators of all kinds. Something to do with his Christianity maybe? Love your enemy? This doesn’t fit. Carter’s tradition is one which has a vivid sense of evil. And Carter himself has been complicit with evil.
In the end, after having watched him for a long, long time, the only conclusion is that he is either a coward, compelled by submission to things he fears, or he’s just nuts, or driven by his own needs for power and importance. I think it’s all three. His own Arafat moment can’t be too far off.
I heard on the news this AM that apparently, the expected Palestinian Car Swarm has now become a “Compound Swarm”. If anyone has seen pictures, please post a link, I’m dying to take a look and laugh.
Personally, I cannot think of anything more fitting than watching Arafat’s body torn apart by raving Palestinians hordes.
As for the Canadian gentleman above, it is undisputed that Roger and the regulars on this blog
firmly support our troops overseas and our veterans at home. To imply otherwise evidences your complete ignorance of the character of our little community here at RLS.com.
For my part, I followed an instapundit link yesterday and bought phone cards for our guys overseas. I know several guys serving in Iraq at the moment and this is one of the most useful and practical ways to show your support (just FYI, the cards are a bit pricy but don’t let that deter you, if you can afford it).
Here’s the link
http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/2004/nr20040423-0646.html
You give Carter too much credit. Carter attempts to kneecap the USA at every opportunity. He is one among many of the US/EU chattering class who will try anything to lessen US power and prestige in the world.
The theory is that having one dominant nation is inherently bad. Historically one could make a pretty good argument in support. Practically, however, the exercise of power and influence is a zero-sum game. Carter is aware of this and perhaps is the reason he so willingly supports dictatorships of every ilk. The theory is irrational when you consider that the stakes could become survival.
I would like to apologize to the world for Carter, but the world wouldn’t get it.
Re: the shenanigans in Ohio and elsewhere, I just say bring it on! Part of me is sad that my former party is so intent on national suicide, but the bigger part of me wants to let them have at it. How the heck is Hillary (who I wouldn’t vote for if you held a beheading sword against my neck) going to get this party of insanity to behave in order for her to get elected? We need 2 strong parties and there’s no evidence of this occurring before the demise of the boomer generation. I still contend that to get rid of the sickness permeating the Dem Party, the boomers have to die off (I say that as a boomer). Therapy won’t help the Dems; there is no returning from where they’ve gone.
kirfz 1
Leftist??? Get your head out of your ass.
I will try to explain irony to you. My fellow Canadians are, for the most part pacifists yet they celebrate Remembrance Day. You are at war (as we are in Afghanistan) and you forget to remember your vets. That’s irony. Get it!
I don’t give a fuck what the thread is here. You are so preoccupied with Carter and Arafat that you forget the most important people in this battle. There is no thread honoring the vets so I was forced to go off thread. That’s part of the point.
Now, how about a kind word or two for your soldiers.
Roger, over to you.
*I don’t give a fuck what the thread is here*
Ah, so you both disrespect your host and the people who regularly contribute, because you are so intent on making your own “points”. I have an idea- start your own blog- then you will be able to dictate the topics for discussion and will not waste bandwidth here.
If it looks like troll and sounds like troll…
To give some perspective, while governor of Texas, upon refusing to stay the execution of Karla Faye Tucker, Bush concluded his statement with,
“May God bless Karla Faye Tucker and may God bless her victims and their families.”
I’ve been told that “may God bless his soul” without any elaboration is Southern Christian for “it’s about flipping time the bastard is dead”.
Hylas,
I want to trademark the phrase:
“Jimmy Carter: The Worst President Ever” ™
Rumblestrip:
I’ve got a cousin who has gone into the geneology thing. I’m not so interested as to do the research, but I’m happy to read the results, and as best she can determine I’m decended from ten generations of soldiers and sailors — maybe more, as things got a little confused about the time of the French and Indian wars.
My father was the black sheep, as he took an Air Cadets commission rather than the Annapolis appointment he was offered, because he’d get to the war a year earlier. He came back from Japan with schistosomiasis, having been wounded four times and partially disabled, and lived in pain until the day he died.
I missed out by not passing the physical to enlist, but have worked in DoD-based stuff for 30 years.
I’m glad that you make a point of celebrating Armistice Day, but some of us remember the military every day.
I knew there was no God when I saw Jimmy Carter and Michael Moore setting together at the Democrat Convention and a heavenly meteor didnÔøΩt come through the roof and take them out. Two major dufus’s setting there like that and nothing happened, what a shame. Hopefully Mr. Carter will be laughing and cackling with his old friend Yassar soon.
Only 60,000? I remember it as having been more…
“The universe itself is bounded by its own curvature, but [Jimmy Carter's] stupidity continues beyond infinity.”
I want to trademark the phrase: “Jimmy Carter: The Worst President Ever” ™
I prefer how he was referred to in The Simpsons: “Jimmy Carter? He’s history’s greatest monster!”
Incidentally, I believe that Warren G. Harding and Richard Nixon are generally considered (by historians) as the worst two presidents in the 20th century. Harding was a feckless bonerpants, but I would argue he didn’t leave any lasting problems. Nixon – well, we’ll be arguing over Nixon for years.
Carter’s bungling of the Iranian hostage crisis, and the resulting rise of Islamofascism, marks him as a very poor decision maker as President. His subsequent appeasement of dictators is what damns him as a scoundrel.
How distressing to find more common ground with the Syrian Defense Minister than with a former president of the United States, or the Secretary General of the United Nations (“President Arafat will always be remembered for having, in 1988, led the Palestinians to accept the principle of peaceful coexistence between Israel and a future Palestinian state. By signing the Oslo accords in 1993 he took a giant step towards the realisation of this vision. It is tragic that he did not live to see it fulfilled.”), or Nelson Mandela (“Yasser Arafat was one of the outstanding freedom fighters of this generation.”). I might conclude that this represents some sort of derangement syndrome seen in Nobel Peace Prize winners but even Tony Blair seems afflicted (“…led his people to a historic acceptance and the need for a two-state solution.”). Feh.
Disappointed to hear about Evan Bayh – I had high hopes for him (still do). Moore and Carter together at the Dem convention is indeed a powerful image especially when juxtaposed with that of Moore being roundly and soundly booed in New York. I suspect that Moore is well on his way to becoming persona non gratis with mainstream Democrats. At least I hope so.
Here’s another way to remember and honor our troops especially during the holidays: OperationGratitude
An American president sitting next to the maker of Fahrenheit 911 at a Democratic National Convention.
I don’t have the words to describe the depth of this indecency. Can any of you offer an apt description?
Need a good laugh? Check out the front page of today’s NY Post: NY Post And thankfully Mayor Bloomberg comes down on the right side of history: “I think Yasser Arafat’s place in history will not be remembered for the [Nobel Peace] prize he was wrongfully given but for the obstruction he provided to the peace process and the violence and terrorism that he supported through his life.” Bravo Mayor Bloomberg.
Hey rumblestrip? I celebrated Veterans Day on Nov. 2, by voting for a president that would back up our troops.
“Hey, man, you don’t talk to [Jimmy Carter]. You listen to him. The man’s enlarged my mind. He’s a poet-warrior in the classic sense. I mean sometimes he’ll, uh, well, you’ll say hello to him, right? And he’ll just walk right by you, and he won’t even notice you. And suddenly he’ll grab you, and he’ll throw you in a corner, and he’ll say do you know that if is the middle word in life? If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you, if you can trust yourself when all men doubt you – I mean I’m no, I can’t – I’m a little man, I’m a little man, he’s, he’s a great man. I should have been a pair of ragged claws scuttling across floors of silent seas…”
Such a prescient parody of what, all to often, journalists have become!
Jim,
“Irredeemably depraved” is as apt a description as I can come up with.
Say what you will about Jimmy Carter, nobody kept track of the schedule for the White House tennis court better than he did. The man was fiercely into micromanagement and cared deeply about policy detail. If this caused him at times to lose sight of the big picture . . . well, blame Richard Nixon. He’s the reason Mr. Peanut got into the White House in the first place. BTW, Nixon’s overture to China has to place him below Warren G. Harding in the 20th Century Worst President Sweepstakes. So the No. 1 ranking is between Jimmy and Warren with Carter’s longevity and greater opportunity for bonehead stunts certain to give him the crow when the last word is written.
One must ask one’s self how did the word “liberal” become such an epithet in American politics? The answer can be summed up in three words: James Earl Carter.
Make that crown. Jimmy’s always refused to eat crow, except for that erection he confessed to getting when he studied a Playboy centerfold.
Rumblestrip:
I’m a vet (25th Div, VN 66-67); my three sons are military (101st, 82nd and 10th Mntn Attached) and a lot of us aren’t hung up about it.
Nice thoughts, but we can carry this thing a little far sometimes. Thank you, but there’s Memorial Day and Veterans’ Day and every other day of the year. Please, we’re on the same side here.
Life goes on. The only ones to think about now are those in battle, and that’s an ongoing remembrance.
Right now Jimmy Carter and Arafat need to be beaten up.
One must ask one’s self how did the word “liberal” become such an epithet in American politics? The answer can be summed up in three words: James Earl Carter.
FA, it’s not fair to cheat Ted Kennedy and George McGovern of their share of the “credit”.
Re the Jimmy Carter episode on “The Simpsons,” I remember Cletus growling at Lisa, “You git yer own habitat.” Lovely little knock at liberal condension. I have no problem with the charity, but couldn’t they just call it “Houses for Humanity”?
By the way, rumblestrip, we also have Memorial Day here. And the Fourth of July. Come to think of it, veterans even marched in last year’s Christmas parade in my city, to much applause. But I’m sure none of that compares to how Canadians celebrate Remembrance Day. I’m sure you’re much more correct and sincere and authentic…yada yada yada…than stupid, lazy Americans.
Yep, we can all thank Carter for micromanaging that doomed rescue mission in Iran . . . this plan was brain-dead from the beginning.
Holy Cow, Rhod!!!!!!!!
82d, 10th Mount, 101st, if you had a son in the 3rd ID you’d have all of 18 Corps covered.
Re: the shenanigans in Ohio and elsewhere, I just say bring it on!
Peg, to be honest, while I understand where you’re coming from, I really, REALLY hope it doesn’t happen. Once is bad. Twice is a precedent – especially if the second time they take a sneak-attack approach. And the prospect of watching grave-faced TV pundits talking about all the hundreds of thousands of new votes which have magically! appeared for Kerry is enough to make me vomit. Not to mention the fact that it means this will probably happen with every subsequent presidential election (at least, the ones that the Dems lose). “Just When You Thought It Was Safe To Go Back In The White House…” No. It cannot happen.
I’ll rest easier when December 1st rolls around and the votes are certified, already!
FA, it’s not fair to cheat Ted Kennedy and George McGovern of their share of the “credit”.
Sorry about the oversight. Though I would say McGovern represents the “unelectable” liberal in the tradition of Stevenson, Dukakis and Kerry. While Kennedy represents the “elected blowhard” wing of the party of which Jimmy is now a charter member.
Who’d have imagined that Billy would one day be thought of us as the reasonable brother?
Without mass murdering thugs like Arafat and their enablers and apologists like Carter, we’d have far less need to thank our veterans for their untold sacrifices and bravery.
I don’t suppose any of the leftists so deeply concerned about gun-toting theocrats would be interested in taking their protest placards to “Palestine” to deal with stuff like this, would they?
Vegetius:
Damn, you’re right. I have to mention that to the boys. Too bad we ran out of sons.
One more thing. A couple years ago, Arafat was described by someone else in the region as the “son of a thousand and ONE whores”. The “son of a thousand whores” is a standard reproach, and the “one” adds just the right touch of spite.
But it seems to me that sixty-thousand whores is a ridiculous escalation of the insult. How about a million whores? One whore who looks like Arafat should be enough for God’s sake.
Rumblestrip,has a style reminiscent of the late departed Robert MaClelland of Canada and points North.Leap out of the bushes with an offensive non sequitur,a kind of internet flasher.
Regardless…now that he’s gone, it’s a Jewish holiday (so goes the joke)!
Isn’t it obvious that Jimmy Carter was one of the sixty thousand?
And let it be known that because there was no specific thread on rogerlsimon.com regarding Veteran’s Day, it is rational and logical to conclude that anyone who participates in the forum *did not observe* the day. Because we all know that we chronicle everything we do and thing during our day here on the forums. Thank you, Rumblestrip, for your clear-thinking.
When Hillary runs in ’08, I’m sure Jimmy Carter will be herded back down into the dungeon and tied to a chair with duct tape over his mouth like he was during the two Bill Clinton campaigns.
I think Carter’s coming out party during this election helped to defeat Kerry.
As far as Carter being the worst president in American history, I’ll take that one step further…..
Carter is the most dispicable figure in American politics during two different centuries.
Hopefully, he’ll be dead before the first election of the 22nd century.
One more thought………
When Carter dies you’ll see tons of foreign bigwigs at his funeral, and absolutely no one from the American heartland standing on the side of the road to pay their last respects. But I guess all the tears shed by Katie Couric will make up for that.
This thought is beneath this blog, but Carter’s affection for dictators suggests to me that he was tied up and taped on other occasions too.