Brooks. Never better.
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Quick, name two people that won’t get the joke!
Dear Buddy:
What Joke?
Yours very truly,
Bushie and John-John-John
Almost as funny as Steyn and that is saying something.
“SCHIEFFER: According to the prearranged rules of this debate, each candidate will now have two minutes to spew forth sentimental blather in order to connect with the American people.”
I would shat myself if a moderator ever said this, or anything even close to it.
I just read this downstairs, and I was thinking, OH I hope Roger’s seen this.
Priceless.
I must say, I’m a “Bush girl,” I really am, but I’m just sick to death of the both of them.
And I do see, vividly, all the Bush-traits liberals loathe, which used not to be the case so much. The smirk, the scowling, the sounding-chronically-aggrieved, the never, ever admitting an error . . . and let us not forget: the expressive language disorder.
I’ve pretty much had it. For the moment, at least.
BUT!
GO, BUSH!
If I had read this before watching the debate I could have saved myself 90 very long minutes. Very, very long minutes.
Then I take it nobody here has seen this one? (if not, highly recommended!):
QandO: Dave Franks Liveblogs the Debate
Catherine
In the last debate, Bush did admit he made an error. To say never, ever is a big statement to make.
I believe it was with regard to certain people he hired in his adminstration but chose not to name names as he wished not to embarrass anyone.
As for the scowls and such, I have to admit I can empathize with Bush. I mean, whenever I hear people, especially those who are campaining for the Presidency, state over and over there was no real reason for war in Iraq or that Bush never ‘clarified’ the reasons, I scowl too. Much more than Bush. I mean how many times and in how many way must it be explained? I think three years of explanation is enough.
If people do not get it now, it is not because do not understand, it is because they refuse to listen or they are playing games with my life
Today, I too am chronically-aggrieved. The dumb-chimp crap is really getting on my nerves.
hi Syn!
I hope I’m not being rude (or, much worse, Alzheimer’s-like) but do I know you?
You’re not “Syl,” are you?
Sorry for not recognizing your name.
I know what you’re saying.
I’m just burned out.
Then, after becoming burned out, I read a couple of columns by people who are pretty good (one of them being Podhoretz) who perfectly expressed what I was feeling in an inchoate way, and suddenly my fed-up-ness burst forth.
In case anyone’s interested,
Podhoretz on “Bush’s Biggest Flaw”:
http://www.nypost.com/cgi-bin/printfriendly.pl
Richard Cohen on the “Vanishing President”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A34164-2004Oct14?language=printer
Luckily it was midnight, no coffee!
Now it’s time to check out that 30th anniversary of D&D.
“In Nativity plays I was usually cast as one of the posts holding up the manger.”
Now that’s what I call type casting.
Brooks is too, too funny.
Sick? Burned out?
Go see Team America… I just did.
Incredibly vulgar. Absolutely tasteless. And I would never have believed you could literally weep with schadenfreude.
When you go, sit all the way through. There are two songs you will walk out of the theatre singing, but one of them is only in the credits.
“In case anyone’s interested,
Podhoretz on “Bush’s Biggest Flaw”:
Link…
Richard Cohen on the “Vanishing President”
Link…”
The polls are looking good for President Bush. Zogby has him up by four points and Newsweek reports a six point lead. Bush learns from his mistakes. He will not be taking anything for granted. Bush must stay away from domestic issues and focus instead on our fight to the death against terrorism and the war in Iraq. Those are winning issues for him.
I used to have no problem accessing the NY Time articles, but this one wouldn’t let me in, my password didn’t work, so I decided to register again. They wouldn’t let me though, said I was already registered, and that if I forgot my password I could send a request and they would email me back a new password. So I sent my request but the email from NYT never came. I still can’t access the article.
What gives? I’ve got only one explanation: They’re on to me.
(And I used to be so good to them, taking them at their printed word. Sigh.)
Peter G – that happened to me. Try entering a new, made-up email address – just change one letter or number from your real one.
Re Bush never admitting a mistake. Good for him. Its obvious that if he honestly admits even one mistake, the vultures will be all over him, it will make the headlines of the NYT, and the Dems will run away with it. Just look what they did with Bremer’s statement about the number of troops. Its a trap. To his credit he’s not falling for it.
OT warning…
The Guardian is trying to influence the American presidential election. Visit Tim Blair’s site; he has the goods on them. He also has a strategy for people to get involved: http://timblair.spleenville.com/archives/007769.php
Perhaps you can send the Guardian an e-mail or a Go Dubya! card, e.g., http://www.rcbeeson.com/card.html
I wrote the Guardian editors and said that we kicked their sorry be-hinds out of the colonies once and we’ll do it again. Don’t mess with us (This warning, of course, does not apply to Tony Blair and PeterUK, both of whom represent Britain’s finest).
They don’t care about whether or not Bush admits a mistake. They want Bush to say Iraq was a mistake, and he’s not going to say that. This whole “Bush won’t admit to errors” issue is so bizarre and just concocted to me.
Off topic: but does anyone have any links to a thorough run-down on the Swift Boat Vets issue?
Peter G.
bugmenot.com
Has ids and passwords for most registation required sites. It is well worth a book mark.
Catherine:
I know what you mean. It does get to you after awhile. I just hope the election is over when it is supposed to be over and not a month later. I would hate to have to kill a bunch of lawyers.
Having said that I must admit that if I had people watching my every move, analyzing my every word, questioning every decision, attacking my syntax, and in general being hyper sensitive about the way I push my glasses up on my nose, bite my thumbnails and roll my eyes when annoyed I would probably go find a cave to live in.
In other words nobody is perfect. People can say what they like about Bush but chances are a lot of them are every bit as annoying themselves it is just that nobody has bothered beating them over the head with it.
And I agree if Bush admits to being mortal and screwing up the Washington press corps will jump on that like a vulture on road kill.
I wish that when Bush is asked again about mistakes, he’d come back with, “Yeah, I made a mistake in believing the UN was worth a damn.”
This thread reminds me that the same question was not asked of Kerry during the debates. Another issue not pursued with Kerry was the litany of items brought up by Zell Miller.
Kerry has already stated that he would cancel the Bunker Busters program. Another program that he has shown disfavor for is SDI. Wouldn’t it have been logical to ask question Kerry about SDI during the debates? We are in the early stages of deploying limited SDI capability right now. http://www.missilethreat.com/systems/aegis_usa.html http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=%5CForeignBureaus%5Carchive%5C200403%5CFOR20040325b.html
We are doing this very quietly. We are developing systems that show promise.
Airborne Laser (ABL) http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/program/abl.htm http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/abl/flash.html
Theater High Energy Laser (THEL)
http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/systems/thel.htm
I worked for a while on the Space Based Laser (and with the guys making the laser for THEL and ABL). http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/program/sbl.htm
SBL is going slower – the technical problems are much worse in space. If you google you will notice that it is much further behind.
At the end of a second Bush term, it looks like we would have a rudimenty SDI. Wouldn’t it have been fair to ask Kerry what he would do about these programs that he once opposed? Would he admit that opposing them and Reagon was one of his (Kerry’s) biggest mistakes?
Brooks article was a pleasant surprise. How is it that with all of the high priced talent available, neither Bush nor Kerry have realized that their best moments came from self deprecating humor (Kerry marrying up; Bush being told by Laura not to scowl so much)?
As for Team America World Police- definitely do not take your kids with you- unless they are over 16. And if you do go with your kids, you may want to sit a few rows away so they don’t see you laughing yourself into tears at some of the grossest parts. One note: Parker and Stone have some serious oral issues. And a second note: when you hear the theme song, just imagine that it’s nominated for an Oscar (as the theme from the South Park movie was) and it is sung on live network television on Oscar night. That will crack you up all over again.
OT….
Barry mentioned Tim Blair’s ‘Operation Guardian.’ I assumed that ‘The Hatted One’ referred to our gracious host.
And even more OT….
I missed the song in the credits of Team America, dang it! Anyway, ‘socialist weasel’ alone was worth the $5!
Dan
Now that the election is on the horizon, I have started to go to the various analyses sites to update myself as to the latest (I have to admit I am a leetle vague as to the states’ identities in the centre of your country, but however, I AM enthusiastic).
There is a magnificent site, Horse Race Blog, jaycost.blogspot.com, which is informative and very sure that Bush is waaaayyy ahead. Then I take other advice and go over to Tradesports (trendmacro.com/tradesports). The advantage of the latter is that it reflects market forces. However, for the past week, in direct contradiction to the marvellous Jay Cost, the betting for Bush is down around 55%.
THEN. Someone called Donald Luskin says that there has been hanky panky at Tradesports, that someone (like George Soros???) has been forcing Bush’s value down, how I don’t know, but …
Now. Tell me. Are American elections ALWAYS this weird?? It seems to me that all the psycho political nuts and bad guys are crawling all over the public landscape. Have you see Terry McAuliffe on CSpan? – he is almost as bad as Carvelle. And EDWARDS is using truly slimy ambulance chaser methods (during the primaries dropping the ‘damaging’ information that Kerry is Catholic, among the Bible Belt folk; slipping in the ‘info’ to the great unwashed that Mary Cheney is a lesbian; using Christopher Reeve’s misfortune to tell lies about stem cell research.)
Sheesh. Michael Moore. Jimmy Carter. Teddy Kennedy. Dan Rather.
I truly hope – for the good of the US and western civilization – that the Democratic party is thoroughly beaten this election – forcing it to either die, or become something else altogether. Because of its unrelenting venomous silliness, there has been no serious adult debate on Saudi Arabia. Or on Immigration and border control. And I could go on and on. But I won’t. I’m going to stop RIGHT NOW.
CATHERINE: Why the disconnect between your logical faculties- saying “Go Bush”- and what you see with your eyes- Bush scowling, making faces, laughing inappropriately- smiling during answers to some questions that are deadly serious, unable to think, conceptualize, or even learn from his mistakes (let alone admit them)? Bush thinks that debating is throwing out disconnected one liners unrelated to the question asked, i.e. “you make Ted Kennedy the conservative senator from Massachusetts” that inform the viewers of nothing except that his debate preparers told him it would resonate with his core supporters.
It’s like JOHN MOORE’s refrain that we are in a “world war” against terror (a linguistic impossibility unless our soldiers are psychiatrists.) Apparently Mr. Moore’s definition of “war” approaches Clinton’s definition of “is” and Bush’s definition of “exaggeration” when he tried to deny he had said he wasn’t concerned about not capturing Osama, there’s a total disconnect between reality and rhetoric.
When you vote, you need to realize that what you experience with your senses as you travel around this country is that we aren’t in any kind of war at all against terrorists. No attacks, no sacrifices- hell, both candidates and Congress are plying us with tax cuts when we are supposedly in a desperate fight for our lives! How disconnected from reality are those messages from our leaders (who should be renamed “panderers”)?
As for Iraq- that’s not a war, it’s an occupation. And even the occupation of Iraq and constant killing of Americans stuck in that hellhole has been relegated to the inside of many newspapers.
People’s perceptions of Bush prove that our brains are wonderful and mysterious things. Two people can view the identical debate performance and come up with polar opposite perceptions. Of course, a scientific study would probably show that this is more likely to occur with Bush’s supporters, who would score much higher on the F scale, than with Kerry supporters, who are generally more open minded, skeptical, and analytical.
Why do I say that? Just read what Bush supporters say about Bush- in spite of what their eyes and ears tell them and what their experiences have been with his policies since 2001. Then read about what Kerry voters (not supporters- that’s another key difference) say that’s wonderful about Kerry. Not so much, as Jon Stewart would put it.
We will hold our noses and vote for Kerry because we recognize his flaws (he has no plan, he tries to be on both sides of issues, he is inconsistent) and we recognize that every politician who wants to win knows that he can’t tell voters the whole truth when the truth is painful and we are in denial.
Of course, Americans would prefer that they not lie to our faces, but on the whole, we’ll vote for the candidate who plausibly lies over the one who tells us the whole painful truth, as Walter Mondale discovered when he told viewers in a 1984 debate with Reagan that the budget couldn’t be balanced without a tax increase.
A good friend of mine who is a Republican and will probably vote for Bush told me that he spoke to fellow Republicans after the first debate who tried to tell him that Bush was the clear winner. His response was that they were out of their minds if they couldn’t see what a poor performance Bush made and how much better Kerry did.
To further illustrate: you would expect that those serving in Iraq would have a clearer picture of the worthiness of the war- if it was justified. And if it wasn’t, they would be less likely to want to admit that their service or sacrifice was in vain or for a blunder of the Bush Administration. So hereís some interesting statistics from a survey done by the Annenberg School of Communications: of all American soldiers surveyed (including those who didn’t deploy there), 36% say that the war in Iraq was not worth it- but that number goes up to 45% if they served in Iraq or Afghanistan. 42% say that the invasion of Iraq had increased the risk of terrorist attacks on the U.S.
I look forward to reading how Mr. Moore blames the “main stream media” propaganda for those numbers. Or maybe it’s all those liberal Democrats serving in the military.
Barry Dauphin ó the nastiest suggestion I saw someone e-mail the Guardian was that we might turn a few 527′s loose on their upcoming election… were there any Swift boats in the Falklands campaign?
It’s always fascinating to compare a Brooks column with one by Krugman, since they so often appear side by side.
One writer analyzes the political scene with wit, patience and a respectful understanding of the beliefs and values of the other side (even daring to poke holes in the positions of the candidate he prefers).
The other serves up one flat-footed, mean-spirited and utterly humorless partisan hit job after another. I have never seen Krugman hint, for even a second, that those who don’t agree with him are or could be anything but subhuman.
Brooks is a real humanist–and the man can sure write lively and entertaining prose. Krugman knows how to link a noun to a verb, but that’s about it. As a stylist, he’s incredibly dull; nothing distinguishes the language he uses to describe his cartoonish and intellectually static moral universe except extraordinary personal viciousness.
At some level, this says somthing elemental about today’s political divide. We have Brooks and the estimable Mr. Simon. They have Krugman and others of his ilk.
Dan Goodpasture ó “You Are Worthless Alec Baldwin.” The lyrics don’t seem to be available online yet. Give it a couple days…
All -
Going OT to talk to Clayton.
Clayton -
“you need to realize that what you experience… is that we aren’t in any kind of war at all against terrorists. No attacks, no sacrifices… both candidates are plying us with tax cuts…How disconnected from reality are those messages from our leaders (who should be renamed “panderers”)?”
I’m not certain whether you are denying that we are in a war with terrorists, or simply that it doesn’t look like a war and that the candidates’ positions with regard to taxes, rationing and so on don’t seem to be consistent with their treating it like a war. On the first point, I am quite certain that we are involved in a war against terror (and incidentally, I feel that the meaning of the term “terror” has evolved so that we can meaningfully say this without requiring that our military exchange their guns for Freud’s-own couches). I think your intent was along the lines of “doesn’t look like a war”, so I’ll respond to that.
First, I agree – it doesn’t look like a war in the sense that you have described it – certainly not like WW II, for example. Taxes were raised, rationing was the order of the day – and still the national debt ballooned to 120% of GDP. Of course, that was a rather different kind of war, so I wouldn’t expect things to be the same in all respects.
There have been some changes (sacrifices?) that have impacted us all – security measures that cause inconvenience when flying, for example, – you referred to that one here:
http://www.rogerlsimon.com/mt-archives/2004/10/lonely_are_the.php#c20873
But the point of your post seems to be the idea that taxes should have been raised to keep the budget balanced and pay for the war as we go.
My gut tells me that if Bush had not cut taxes we would have seen a much more severe recession than we did. We’d probably be out of it by now, though the go-go 90′s produced a big bubble (no, not Clinton’s fault), and that might have meant a prolonged recession – we might be calling it a depression by now. Had that happened after a tax increase, make that the “Bush Depression”.
A major recession would make it more difficult to meet the demands of a prolonged war, wouldn’t it? Wouldn’t Kerry’s (or anyone else’s) calls for spending the money at home have a lot more impact? Wouldn’t that impede the ability to conduct the war?
Hence the war that doesn’t feel like one.
This is one of those tough choices we need to face. It *is* important to halt the growth of the public debt as a percentage of GDP (I’d like to see it shrink considerably, in fact), but do we insist that the budget be balanced or in surplus at all times? Or, are there times that we run an unbalanced budget in order to bump the economy onto an upward trajectory? If so, does being engaged in a war trump that consideration? Or does the need to keep people from recoiling from continually devoting resources to a war in which the enemy’s presence may not be felt for months at a time validate the approach?
My feeling is that the choice to cut taxes, leave them low after 9/11, and run a large deficit was the correct one – for now. I grant that current rates of taxation and government spending are too out of whack to be sustained long-term, and we’ll need to find ways to reduce spending or we’ll need to raise taxes. Actually, I think we’ll need to do both eventually.
Incidentally, the amount of money paid in taxes (per capita) in the US is not particularly low – calculated* in terms of Purchasing Power Parity we collect slightly more per person than Germany and Italy, 15-20% more than the UK, and slightly less than France and Canada. Of course, US income per capita is quite a bit higher, while tax rates are quite a bit lower, but it pretty much evens out. Relative to those countries, we spend a much larger percentage of tax revenues on the military, of course. It seems safe to assume that they spend a much larger share on social welfare.
*Using OECD figures for receipts as a percent of GDP from 1999; GDP per capita (adjusted for PPP) from 2002. Not as clean or recent as I’d like, but ballpark correct.
Good show, Morgan. I tried to engage the DNC Central Committee (“John Clayton”) myself, on an earlier thread, about the actual effects on productivity of their Leninism Lite. The Central Committee doesn’t acknowledge certain aspects of humanity; matters of incentive, hope, altruism, and the animal spirit get tabled in lieu of something else, I know not what.
For example, the nearly 40% increase in minimum wage proposed will certainly give the CC a talking point for whatever portion of its constituency it has most successfully dumbed-down, as well as build a thousand maquiladoras and put half that percentage of the youngest and/or most vulnerable Americans out of a job.
And, like the new divisions and the doubled Special Forces, why stop at 40% when ya can have 80%? Why not fifty new divisions by Tuesday, and, every citizen gets a million dollars from the Treasury every birthday? Hell, I know I’d vote for THAT!
Per the Annenburg Survey: After a billion dollar effort to take the White House by lying about the war, the miracle is that it shows the support that it DOES show. Given enough time and MSM cooperation, the CC could have its favorite war, Vietnam, all over again. The latest move is pure ‘Nam endgame, http://bostonreview.net/aboutBR.html, the war is illegitimate because terrorism is no threat after all, and never was.
Good thing I’m not the dictator around here. If the CC couldn’t shake off this 5th column-ish myopia-psychosis, before I’d see us become head-less Frenchmen, I’d have to round up some of the worst, Gary Cooper-style, and stretch a few ropes. We have children to raise, here, and they are counting on us to hold the cannibals at bay. Ah, just kidding about that rope thing. Felt gooood typing it, though (“Any last forged words, Rather?”). That sort of remark gets construed as political intolerance. But I’m forever tolerant of differing opinions (what in the world could grant me the right to not be?). No, it’s the bald-faced ultra-cynical deliberate lying; it makes me feel that everyone from God to George Washington is being urinated upon. Selling the birthright for pottage, Esau-style. One of the severest warnings in the most ancient description of a higher going-up-the-ladder humanity, vs the other, descending, version.
BTW, this site and Belmont are as the respective hosts remark, coalescing, in the stretch-run here, along the same vector. Be sure and check the brand new entry, featuring another slice of the same Yeats apocalysm that likewise struck Jamie Irons on this site sometime back as being so well-emblematic of these times. Forewarned is fore-armed! Onward through the Fog!
And as far as YOU, Clayton-Committee, we hear your own version of English poetry “Cry Havoc, and let’s dog the War of Slips!”
And another thing, while on money matters, I can’t remember the article, but that won’t stop this site’s intrepid googleers. The last records available of Kerry’s charitable giving (pre-Theresa, which if we could see would probably show an increase–those hard-left non-profits) show about a tenth of the Bushes, percentage-wise. Some altruistic man-of-the-left. The Bushes are way up there around ten percent, and not to political fronts, either, but to true charities. Some greedy right-winger.
http://bostonreview.net/BR29.5/alazm.html
is that link, if that recalcitrant hyperlink is fritzed. Yes, I have “add”.
John Clayton:
In your post to Catherine you make mention of certain personal characteristics of Bush’s. If I may I would like to point out that this is a flaw of the Democrats. They assume that everyone sees and hears and experiences what they do. These kind of judgments are subjective.
I find Bush amiable and likable. I find Kerry’s remarks about marrying up stupid and his grin creepy. In fact when he comes on TV it requires effort on my part not to mute the damn thing. He literally makes my skin crawl.
Now I know that you don’t feel that way or have that reaction. However, it seems to me that Bush haters assume that the things they see in Bush [such as a smile or a laugh] that are offensive to them are also offensive to others. Not true. You guys need to understand that your opinions are only opinions. You do not speak for the rest of us. And your dismissal of the opinions of others and their right to perceive things in their own way says more about you than the rest of us.
Hey, Terrye, what are we gonna do if it wins? I DO mute…in fact, when I hear the orotundized sonomaton flip it ‘on’, wherever I am whatever I’m doing, I either scramble for the remote or start singing “Old Man River”real loud. It’s getting serious with me, no joke. I simply cannot listen to the Creature from the Black Lagoon anymore.
and I would LOVE to be properly respectful toward an honorable senator and presidential candidate. That I’ve degenerated so far in civic attitude, is that MY fault? Have I let myself skid into this slip? Or is it really the CFTBL ?
Kerry’s Hometown Paper endorses Bush. Think Gary Trudeau will mention that?
…when you hear the theme song, just imagine that it’s nominated for an Oscar (as the theme from the South Park movie was) and it is sung on live network television on Oscar night. That will crack you up all over again.
Ah, from your mouth … er, keyboard, to God’s ears.
Eyes.
Anthropomorphism’s a bitch.
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