Why People Now Ignore Paul Krugman
I wonder if anyone outside the febrile circle of committed New York Times “progressives” still takes Paul Krugman seriously? An eminent writer on economics for a rival paper tells me that he and his colleagues long ago decided to ignore Krugman. They just stopped responding to his hectoring exercises in economic fantasy, or even mentioning his name, because to respond, no matter how critically, accorded Krugman a legitimacy, a seriousness, he didn’t deserve.
There is something to that. To respond to Paul Krugman is like staring at the poor chaps who stand on street corners shouting obscenities at imaginary enemies. It just isn’t polite, and mothers are right to shade their children’s eyes and hurry them by such pathetic scenes of mental anguish. “What’s wrong with that man, Mommy?” “Hush, children, it’s impolite to point and stare. Let’s get along home.”
I think that’s basically the right response to Paul Krugman: a pitying silence as one averts one’s eyes and hurries on.
Still, although he is like a madman shouting on the street corner, Paul Krugman’s position at our former paper of record endows him with a very large megaphone. This means that his expostulations, though sadly risible, are almost unavoidable if one is out and about in the commentariat’s precinct of cyberspace. Just this morning, for example, the indispensable site RealClearPolitics (which, unlike Candy Crowley, takes its responsibility to be evenhanded seriously) links to a column by Paul Krugman called “Snow Job on Jobs.” Here’s the burden of his piece: Mitt Romney talks about creating jobs, but he doesn’t have a creditable plan to make that happen. “He’s just faking it.” In fact, his campaign is “telling lies” about the relevant numbers. He then treats readers to an ad hominem digression about Mitt Romney’s claim to have started a “small business.” Yes, Krugman allows, Bain Capital started with only a few employees, but — Gotcha! — it was backed by investor capital to the tune of $37 million. (“So?” you say: “So what? It was still a small business.” Yes but that is only in real life, not in the world according to Krugman.) No, Romney’s plan for recovery, according to Paul Krugman, contains 5 points “but no specifics.” Nevertheless, it represents a return “to Bushonomics: tax cuts for the wealthy plus weaker environmental protection.”
Barack Obama, on the other hand, has been a sort of economic miracle worker. Krugman concedes that unemployment remains high (thanks for that, Paul!) but also contends that (listen closely now) “you can defend President Obama’s jobs record — recovery from a severe financial crisis is always difficult, and especially so when the opposition party does its best to block every policy initiative you propose. And things have definitely improved over the past year.”
Is there any single phrase in that passage that is true? Obama’s recovery, if you can call it a recovery, is about the weakest on record (“the worst that America has ever had”: CBS). Barack Obama came to power controlling both houses of Congress: he asked for, and got, whatever he wanted. And things have not improved over the last years. Just a few data points:
- The federal debt recently passed the mind-boggling number of $16 trillion (it seemed like poetic justice that it should have happened as the Democrats were convening in Charlotte to nominate Obama for another four-year-term of out-of-control spending).
- Obama is still running more than a trillion dollar annual deficit, even though he promised to cut that in half by the end of his first term.
- Obama promised that he would have unemployment down to well under 6 percent by now if Congress only gave him the nearly $800 billion “stimulus” package. They gave him the dough, yet official unemployment is still nearly 8 percent and is in reality much higher. (I don’t know of anyone, apart from Paul Krugman, who believes September’s announcement that unemployment had fallen to 7.8 percent.)
- Gas prices have soared from $1.85 to about $4.00 a gallon on Obama’s watch, though, to be fair , skyrocketing energy prices were something Obama and his secretary of energy actually aimed to produce.
- Economic growth, far from improving, has remained at an anemic 1.3 percent.
- Government expenditure on welfare now tops $1 trillion per annum. Amazing.
I could (indeed, I several times have) gone on with the litany of failure and broken promises that is Barack Obama’s record. But at this stage the recitation is bootless: the public now knows — and more importantly, it now feels in its bones — that Obama’s tenure has been an abject failure. This is the first time in his entire life that Obama has had to run on his record: it is shaping up to be a car wreck of historical proportions. He came to office, remember, promising to “fundamentally transform the United States of America” (it’s worth going back to look at that clip). When Obama assumed office, the Untied States was the richest, mightiest, freest, most secure polity in history. If you set about “fundamentally transforming” the United States, could any of those attributes survive? America is poorer, much poorer, now than when Obama took office. We have seen an American ambassador and three members of his staff murdered by terrorists in Libya. The world is reeling not only from economic turmoil but also from a lack of American leadership.
This is the bottom line: Barack Obama is a redistributionist radical Keynesian. He believes in “spreading the wealth around,” as he famously told Joe the Plumber in 2008. That is, he wants to confiscate the money you earn and give it to someone else. He thinks that massive government spending is the key to economic recovery. He thinks every aspect of life should be under the control of the federal government. And that, by the way, is the real agenda behind the 2700-page behemoth that is Obamacare: take decisions about health care — that’s life-and-death decisions — away from individuals and give them to the state.
And what about Mitt’s plan to create jobs? Paul Krugman says that Romney is “just faking it,” “telling lies,” etc. Here’s what we know. Mitt Romney started a business that created wealth not just for himself but also for countless businesses and the individuals who work for them. Bain Capital invested in companies like Staples and made millions; Obama invested in companies like Solyndra and lost billions. Mitt Romney was governor of one of the most liberal states in the country. He worked effectively with Democrats to balance the budget and left the state that was debt-ridden when he came to office with a tidy surplus of $3 billion. Paul Krugman says that Romney’s five-point plan lacks specifics, but it seems pretty specific to me:
- Achieve energy independence by 2020 by harnessing the vast resources of North America’s energy reserves.
- Work to overcome trade barriers to American businesses abroad.
- Improves skills-based education in America.
- Reduce the size of government and cut the deficit.
- Champion small businesses by reducing the morass of business-blighting regulation and simplifying and cutting the tax burden of businesses and individuals.
Paul Krugman says this amounts to “Bushonomics,” with tax cuts for “the rich” and a gutting of environmental protection. Currently, “the rich” — if by “rich” you mean the top 1 percent of tax filers — pay nearly 40 percent of the income tax receipts while the bottom 47 percent (remember that number: it was supposed to be one of Romney’s gaffes, yet it was the simple truth) pays zero — that’s nada, none, zilch — in income tax. Is that (to use one of Obama’s favorite words) fair? The Obama-Biden class-warfare campaign has backfired as more and more people realize that by “rich” they basically mean someone who is employed and not on welfare, the presumption being that if you are not on the government dole you are somehow being unpatriotic. And as for “protecting the environment,” the EPA long ago ceased being about clean air and clean water: now it is all about promulgating punitive government regulations that have only the most tenuous relationship with helping the environment but most certainly help stymie the economy and blight business. Mitt Romney understands this critical truth: if you want to help the environment, create wealth. Then you will have the resources and cultivate the technological know-how to foster cleaner energy. What the country needs is cheap, abundant energy, period, full stop.
I suspect that Paul Krugman is going to find his street corner more and more lonely in the weeks to come. Barack Obama’s redistributionist, spendaholic, big-government, blame-America-first policies have finally been revealed for what they are: not the post-partisan, prosperous, green utopia he promised, but an economic and foreign policy disaster. Americans see that, which is why Obama’s campaign is visibly disintegrating by the day and angry, partisan hacks like Paul Krugman are increasingly shouting for themselves alone. No one is listening because we’ve heard it all before and know it’s hooey.






A couple of centuries ago Londoners paid a small fee amuse themselves gawking at the raving inmates of Bedlam. It pleases me to hear that people are ignoring Paul Krugman. In some respects civilization is advancing.
On the other hand, think of the revenue that could be raised by charging to observe Krugman.
Like going to the circus and hearing the barker asking for a quarter to see the Fat Lady, or the Two Headed cow, or the Bearded Lady, or the guy with the Largest Big Toe in the World!
Please don’t denigrate the Carny by assuming that Krugman would be welcome in a sideshow. Malformed fetuses in jars of formaldehyde are several levels more intelligent that Kruggie. In fact, he seems to be one of them that escaped the 10-in-1 Show by going into a malformed adult…
This blogger believes that the (mis)labors of leftist academia (many who transform themselves into highly paid media shills)are coming to fruition, and their vile fruits are being exposed as nothing more than rotten indoctrinating forces.
Most have failed to understand the pernicious effects of leftist academia on society as a whole. Believing in the safety of a campus’s confines, as a place for their kiddies to grow and blossom, parents have left generations of kiddies in the hands of some very twisted (w)academics.
Alas, their hegemony may soon be coming to an end, or at least be under some heavy scrutiny – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/08/21/the-paradox-pitfalls-of-liberal-democracies-in-a-time-of-immoral-relativism-the-havoc-wrought-by-leftist-academia-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/, as the public comes to grips with what many of their so called ‘stars’ (even after they leave their respective academic posts) have wrought.
The NYT is currently failing with that business model.
The Grey Lady is the new Bedlam. Makes complete sense, now that I stop to ponder.
Roger, avert your eyes and stop paying attention to the crazy people and they will sneak up on you and stab you in the back and eat your face. Just a note of caution.
Bedlam is now what we call the ‘Beltway’.
You, and the author, are deluding yourselves. Krugman is much better known and better renumerated as a buffoonish partisan hack than he ever was as a serious economist.
And it is a dreadful mistake to ignore him, because the nonsense that he pedals resonates on an emotional level with a large percentage of people, especially educated idiots. Failing to refute his positions with calm logic and facts only adds to his credibility with his readers.
This is a must read.
The Blago File
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/blago-file_655072.html
This is going somewhere big!
Weekly Standard reviews Tribune reporters’ book on Blago
http://illinoispaytoplay.com/2012/10/20/weekly-standard-reviews-tribune-reporters-book-on-blago/
People are now ignoring Krug not because he’s short on smarts but because he’s been seduced. Some call him a Hobbit because of his lack of stature but they are wrong, Hobbits were heroes, Krug is more of the orc of economics in service to Sauron, his Dark Lord in the White House. Come November it’s The Return of the King. Choose a side there is no middle earth.
My very progressive wife always sends me links to Krugman as a way to indirectly argue politics, or “prove” a point. Oh well.
A little off topic, byt nowhere in this…
http://www.buzzfeed.com/johnstanton/arizona-senate-candidate-tells-male-moderator-hes …does it reveal that Carmona is the Dem.
Buzzfeed must have changed it, because it mentions Carmona is a Democrat in the sub-headline.
Yeah, he could write a column headlined “Conservative were right all along on Economics” and I wouldn’t even consider flowing the link.
LOL!
Ignoring someone is the supreme insult. They are so inconsequential you can’t even hate them or respond to their presence. They are beneath an itch scratched simply on reflex, with the barest flick of a finger.
And he did it all to himself. I still don’t get why.
I’ve always pictured him with a bit of drool covering his beard.
And bread crumbs or maybe a tiny piece of fried chicken…? Yeah, me too
With respect to the September jobs report, it is now known that California, a huge state with very high unemployment, failed to report its data last month. The person responsible for reporting is an Obama donor. Coincidence ?
Mike_K, here in California the unemployment numbers don’t include any of the illegal farm workers. When that shadow employment category is included, unemployment numbers in many parts of the state are more like 20% and higher.
Let’s see. One author received his art degree from Yale and writes a social commentary column for Pajamas Media; the other graduated at the top of his class at Yale and went on to MIT to get is his PHD in Economics, received the Nobel Price in Economics, writes an opinion column in the most prominent newspaper in the country, and is one of the most influential economists in the world – 14th most cited. If you are going to challenge Krugman you will have to come up with something a lot better than an “eminent writer on economics for a rival paper” and a hackneyed column. There is a good reason why you are publishing at PJ Media and Krugman is writing at the NY Times.
Relax Scott, the American economy was screwed by Harvard and London School of Economics graduates.
Walter Duranty was also New York Times favorite son.
I’d like to hear what Milton Friedman could have said about Krugman.
I find it amusing that Nobel was brought up. Who is another distinguished Nobel prize winner? That’s right, the current WH resident.
Krugman’s Nobel was actually deserved, but it was in International Trade policy, not Monetary Economics.
It’s like the electrician who wired your house winning one on Electrodynamics ala James Clerk Maxwell.
Was it? I find that hard to believe from a guy who thought we needed to blow a housing bubble to rcover from the Internet bubble, that a tsunami is an economic stimulus, and that argues that the government should fake an alien invasion. That last one made all the more ridiculous as he decried the war on terror which exactly fits the bill of those kinds of wasteful advice.
your premise that a Nobel Prize carries any prestige is clearly wrong.
The Kommitee clearly has a leftist agenda or a really strange Nordic sense of humor.
“There is a good reason why you are publishing at PJ Media and Krugman is writing at the NY Times”
Yes thats true.
And the reason is, that PJMedia represents the cutting edge of The New Information Media, where factual, sharp and LIGHTNING FAST reporting are the commodities of he day…and Mr. Kimbal acquits himself perfectly to the task.
Whereas the stale, debt laden and shrinking circulation Gray Lady is, in fact, a dying old hag that no one really cares about.
What you quoted as Resume, is actually the most effective Indictment of Mr. Krugman yet.
Its the Pedigreed Leftists and their Inbreed Systems of Accreditation, that are responsible for the mess we now must climb our way out of, thank you very much.
Goodness, Scott — is it patriotism or credentialism that’s the last refuge of a scoundrel? I actually forget. Maybe you could ask that genius at the Times who keeps proposing massive government spending as the cure for all our ills. It’s worked so well! No doubt that’s why he’s cited so often; if we’d only take his sacred advice all would be well!
“There is a good reason why you are publishing at PJ Media and Krugman is writing at the NY Times.”
We are in furious agreement on that, though not, I suspect, on the reason.
Krugman isn’t the first whore to have a high IQ, not the first fool.
Quite Right.
There is a huge difference between “intelligent” and “smart”
General McClellen was no doubt highly intelligent.
General Sherman, however, was pretty damn SMART.
And who comported themselves to greater success, in the critical moments of greatest need?
And that’s what is truly sad. Krugman was once a sober, prudent (if left-leaning) Economics thinker. He earned his Nobel (unlike a certain president and former vice). And he wrote Economics textbooks with his wife that he subsequently contradicted in numerous hyper-partisan polemics screaming from the pages of that onetime Paper of Record(tm). It’s like the asylum dweller inside him took over, leaving only the raving lunatic on the street corner.
Hey Scott, how come Krugman isn’t up for this challenge?
http://krugmandebate.com/
14th most cited blowhard at Pravda’s New York Bureau is still a blowhard.
Because the NYT has a policy of hiring the handicapped?
Ah, yes – the final refuge of the progressive is to hide behind academic elitism! Krugman won his Nobel prize for his original work in a small niche area of economics. It was the New York Times that decided to make him their “expert” on economics in general. Your comment on his standing as “the 14th most cited” economist reminds me of the global warming “scientists”, who all cite each others work. And before you denigrate PJ Media, you had better check the circulation of the New York Times – it is rapidly falling below the Mendoza line! Krugman’s expertise is in question because, despite his academic credentials from elite Eastern universities, he has been demonstrably wrong with his recommendations (which have been essentially FDR revisited!) Wrong then; wrong now!
To paraphrase Ronald Reagan: It isn’t that our liberal friends are not intelligent; it is just that so many of the things they know to be true are wrong! Paul Krugman is a legend in his own mind, and his diminishing circle of fanatic followers in the New York Times readership are circling the wagons for one last stand. He reminds me of Paul Ehrlich: no matter how badly his prognostications miss the mark, he moves on to the next prediction as if it had never happened. Thus we hear that the only reason Obama’s stimulus policies didn’t work and created more debt than all the preceeding Presidents combined was because it just wasn’t large enough!
It’s even worse than that (regarding your point about scientists who cite each others work regarding Global Warming), as now several newcoming scientists are pretty much forced by the community to “believe” in Global Warming, or else they don’t gain any research grants.
Eventually, he (Krugman) really does need to be put in an asylum, preferrably an abandoned one that’s sealed up so no one would end up absorbing his demented trife (like Harley Quinn – then known as Harleen Quinzel – did when she acted as Joker’s nurse before becoming his partner in crime in Batman).
Let’s see: “…received his art degree from Yale…” only proves that in art as in spending, less is more, meaning that art and economics are the least incompatible of disciplines; and economics is known as “the dismal science” precisely because there’s so much art in it and so little science? — Krugman should agree! He doesn’t? Why, the fella needs a shave, and a hair cut!
stipulating to pk’s ‘intellect’, the fact remains that he has received substantive criticism for his forays into politics.
they do not confer infalability with the prize. if I need an expert on ‘new trade theory’, krugman’s advice is worth soliciting.
if I need a macroeconomics expert, I’d look somewhere else.
if a nobel prize is instant credibility, I’m curious if you find there are any other american nobel/economics winners that have equivalent merit.
thomas sargent?
publicly opposed krugman’s stimulus.
edward prescott?
publicly opposed krugman’s stimulus.
vernon l. smith? james buchanan?
you get the idea. there are more…but I guess if they disagree with krugman they don’t merit consideration.
Professor Krugman’s judgment is irreparably distorted by ideology. Do you know he wrote that Reagan”s tax rate cuts would ignite inflation even in the face of their initial success?
From a 1996 review of Reaganomics from the Cato Institute:
https://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-261.html
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Amazingly, even after inflation had fallen by more than half by late 1982, Reagan’s skeptics believed the progress on prices was a temporary aberration. Economist Paul Krugman, now of Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and Larry Summers of the Clinton Treasury Department warned in November 1982 of a coming “inflation time bomb.” “It is reasonable to expect a significant reacceleration of inflation in the near future,” they wrote. “A significant portion of the slowing of consumer price inflation since 1980 does not represent a reduction in the underlying rate.”
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Now there's some mighty fine prognosticating!
Might be because PJ Media has more readers then the N.Y. Times? Or might it be because PJ is the future and The NY slimes is the long gone past? Oh well some folks never get it.
I’m a little slow myself. Last night I drove by my younger brothers house and stole his Obama-Biden Sign. Then I drove down to the main cemetery to place it there. There were already 4 signs up, so I drove out to one of the small villages (Walls, Ms.) to put the sign there. Already had two. It was getting late, so I came home, covered the sign up and went to bed. I think I will take my bike around tomorrow and look for a grave yard that hasn’t been recruited yet. I suppose I could just call but that might cause problems. Besides, I had planned on going for a ride tomorrow anyway. See if my younger brother wants to go.
TWANLOC: Those Who Are No Longer Our Countrymen
Roger Kimball is not challenging Krugman. He is merely stating a fact. Krugman’s ideas don’t work. Mr. Kimball gave a list of how these ideas have not worked, and you did nothing to refute them. All you did was try to be superior and clever. People on the left do this a lot, and it’s really, really boring.
Oh, Krugman isn’t the only one about to to dumped on the ash heap of history. There’s an entire cohort that will be keeping him company. Michael Mann, Al Gore, James Hanson and the rest of their global warming buddies.
I love the word “hooey”.
My Russian wife tells me it is the most filthy of words in the Russian language — so filthy she can not bring herself to tell me what it means.
Yep, you guessed it. It means that male private part or in the vernacular, that Univ of South Carolina team mascot. Yep, that one.
Really? Is that all? I am disappointed. From her reaction, I thought at minimum it would be putting such a thing to an unusual and creative use.
Granted, it is considered very crass. Women would never use it, thus her reaction. You married a decent lady. Cheers!
Krugman in a Michael Moore skin tab.
He is an anarchist willing to lie about America utlizing “economics” as his crazed Ouija board for his spittle-flecked lunatic rantings.
Anyone dumb enough to fall for his or Moore’s imbecility, isn’t going to be moved by such trifling things as truth or honor.
Obama is a flaming One World redistributionist and his confiscatory instincts are hidden and suppressed, not tempered. He is a Fabian Socialist (or as his buddy, Bill Ayers defines it…a small c communist). His separation from Krudman and Moore is that Obama wants anarchy only as far as it takes him toward tyranny. Anarchy stops at the dictator’s doorstep.
I realized years ago that Krugman is a whore. He sold his credentials in return for a plush lifestyle.
Somebody who is intelligent enough to win the Nobel in economics, which isn’t awarded on the basis of politics, is smart enough to know that he cherry-picks data to defend an ideology.
He does it for money. He’s a whore.
The saddest thing about Krugman is that at one time he actually wrote about economic issues in a rational, almost non partisan way. Many of the articles that he wrote in the 90s are quite good. In praise of cheap labor for example.
“Somebody who is intelligent enough to win the Nobel in economics, which isn’t awarded on the basis of politics”
Evidence, please!
The entire Nobel process is political. From A to Z.
One tiny point of disagreement, Roger: Calling either Obama or Krugman a Keynesian is a gross insult to Keynes. Neither of the socialist economic illiterates has the intelligence to understand Keynes, let alone work with his theories.
Paul who?
Did you mean to misspell “United States” as “Untied States”? It kind of works given the context – just wondering.
Mike_K — No, that’s wrong. Don’t discredit yourself.
Very, very soon, the ranks of Presstitutes, Media Whores, and co-conspirators will experience some SERIOUS THINNING. News outlets which are DYING cannot continue afford to pay the ROCK STAR/WORLD CLASS ATHLETE fees. Furthermore, Ovomit will LEAVE HIS GROUPIES BEHIND when he settles into his Hawaii mega-mansion.
Bye-Bye Little Pauly!
I have a feeling that this is why the MSM is going to bat harder for the Obama administration than any former president. They’ve stepped it to new levels this time because they know they’re dying a slow death and no doubt Obama has promised to bail them out with some combination of taxpayer dollars and internet regulations if re-elected. This election is literally do or die for them and they’re acting the part.
It looks more and more likely, and you can hear the huge sigh of relief all over the world, that Obama will be tossed out on his ear in a few weeks.
But I fear Romney will temporize and fudge. He will see everything through the prism of reelection. He simply won’t have the balls, pardon the expression, to make the necessary cuts to government spending, to cut the deficit and face down the howls of outrage from the Maureen Dowds and the Paul Krugmans who, despite the piffle that they churn out, are still potent opinion formers. No more will Romney be brave enough to take on the education bureaucracy, inward-looking and liberal to a man (and woman).
I hope I’m wrong, but . . .
Romney definitely isn’t the man to eviscerate the bureaucracy or eliminate Departments, agencies and programs. But he does understand overhead and that is what government is. So while he won’t wonder why the government has job training programs at all he does wonder why we have 40 different ones spread across 8 or 9 agencies and knock that down to 2 or 3 maybe. It ain’t near enough to keep us from economic catastrophe but it’s something. Romney will do what he thinks is right which is a hell of a lot better than what #OccupyResoluteDesk thinks is right.
So when we founder at least Romney will feel bad about it.
First people said he was a squish and too weak to attack Obama and he’s losing. Funny you don’t hear too much of that anymore. Now you figure he’s going to just rollover once he gets into office. The guy can take or leave the presidency and likely won’t take a salary. He genuinely wants to fix America.
Yeah, he does…
But Media has a Back Pocket Social Issue, simmering on the stove, just waiting to use as a metaphor for the New Dark Age of a Romney Administration…
The Trevon Martin Trial.
Yes, I know its poor Mr. Zimmerman on trial…
“He was innocent, we all knew it…he was never the terrible things said about him…but somehow Justice, faulty Justice, ignores the fact he was gunned down by a racist white man, who, crime of crimes, now is free”
The Zimmerman Jury represents the American Voter…
We have to abide their decision, BUT WE KNOW THEY GOT IT WRONG.
Just wait and see how the Media plays this Narrative out…
Like “the Homeless” who never existed till Reagan, mark my words, they NEED Zimmerman to be acquitted to cast a pall on Romney as early as possible, and start their “rebuilding” process.
Ironically, the weak case against him will fall to the medias favor.
What edited tapes and biased coverage?
Its a new sinister tide sweeping the country…
And both Trevon AND Obama were victims of it.
Zimmerman acquitted = Romney elected…something CLEARLY went wrong in America
Mark My Words, this Narrative is already being worked on.
I think we should send ol Paul to Berkley so he can hang out with his intellectual equal Robby Baby Reich.Imagine the wonderfully Utopian ideas they will come up with by joining forces in the cause of Grand Delusion.
– Obomo do to America as it did to Enron.
In fairness to Obama and Krugman, Obama hasn’t taken Krugman’s advice.
How would you know? The current Administration hasn’t published a stimulus report for four quarters and will not produce one for this quarter either. We don’t know if he is taking the loon’s advice nor do we know what the 900 some odd Executive Orders that have been produced will cause.
It is my hope that Mr. Romney, once President will rescind all of those EOs and proceed to carve out the cancer of over regulation that is matasticizing inside our govt. It will be painful for 47% of the population but it will be an amazing relief for the productive members of our society.
If he doesn’t then we the people will have to take action to elect those that will.
Yes. I see him brought up constantly on the off topic section of a video game forum.
People on this site need to get out of their bubble sometime and visit non-political sites.
Energy independence and cleaner energy? Someone please tell me Rmmey knows about LFTRs. If any of you don’t know what that is, use google and educate yourselves.
Google what precisely? Your cryptic post does not enable a coherent search query. Fail.
Actually, I googled it & wikipedia came right up with it. Liquid fluoride thorium reactor. A new technology for generating power.
Just a guess, but try Liquid Flouride Thorium Reactor.
The last two years of the Bush administration, Dems held both houses of Cogress, so they had every committee chairmanship and a majority on every committee, especially important , every financial committee. And they, including Senator Barry, didn’t know things were so bad? There hasn’t been that much BS spread since Hercules cleaned the Minoan Stables. Paul Krugman looks like a rat.
You are right that Krugman is becoming less and less relevant, but wrong about the reason. He’s increasingly likely to post notes about scandals or shrilly hit out at other economists. This, and the fact that Obama never ever seems to listen to him are the two main reasons that are reducing his influence.
In fairness to Krugman, most of his main economic predictions have been spot on: his prediction on the stimulus was that it would stop the economy’s free fall, but not lead to higher growth. That would seem a pretty accurate prediction given the stats posted in this article. He also predicted that increasing the money supply wouldn’t lead to inflation until growth returned and that treasury borrowing rates would stay low, which have both been true to date.
PAUL KRUGMAN, OVEREDUCATED IDIOT
And he is far from the only one we have erroneously given power in one form or another.
Cats will eat grass and other greens when they have an upset tummy. It causes them to upchuck the hairball or other problem matter.
I sometimes read Krugman for the same reason.
He makes me upchuck
Krugman’s analyses aren’t intuitive or counterintuitive, they are inane. He takes the simplistic view that tax rates and revenues are directly correlated. Double the rates, double the revenues. He completely misses the dynamic component of human reactions. The rich, in particular, have funds that are fungible and they react to rate changes. Make the rates low enough so that end revenues are highest, and people put their money into taxable investments. Raise the rates until taxable investments are less profitable than non-taxable investments, and the money moves away – to non-taxable certificates, offshore (sometimes taking the investor and their businesses, too), or is sometimes simply “parked” in low yield investments (the rich have enough funds that they can live off existing funds and don’t actually NEED to make another taxable dime). The middle class isn’t quite as mobile. Their choices become whether to work longer for more pay or to start (or not) a new small biz. When tax rates become punitive, even the middle class sits out the hikes.
Krugman isn’t just a loon ranting on the street corner. He’s a loon ranting encouragement to the pickpockets and muggers all up and down the street.
And while Keynes was a better intellect than the rent-seekers who invoke his name, he was still a damn fool and deserves to have his name linked with the idiocy his ideas have fostered.
Krugman “writes an opinion column in the most prominent newspaper in the country”
When did Paul go to work for the Wall Street Journal?
But Krugman has Nobel Prize in Economics. Of course, he got this prize for bashing Bush in his op-eds over the years, but still, doesn’t that count for something? After all, Obama has a Nobel Peace Prize, and look at how things in the world have turned out in the three years since.
On the campaign trail today, though he did not mention him by name, the con artist was using the wisdom of an “economist from the New York times” as proof that he was the economic light bringer and that very same economist trashed Romney’s plan. When I heard the sibilance of the snake hissing this bit of BS, I knew immediately it could be other than Krugman. Con artist is citing dimwit as the authority in all things fiscal and economic. You column couldn’t be more timely.
“When I heard the sibilance of the snake hissing this bit of BS, I knew immediately it could be other than Krugman. ”
I think you’re missing a “no” in that sentence, as in “it could be NO other than Krugman”.
If you want to see what Romney’s America will look like, please look to Sensata Technologies. Bain Capital bought and own Sensata Technologies here at Freeport, IL. At the end of this year Sensata Technologies is closing with 170 employees that will be out of work. Bain Capital is moving Sensata Technologies to China and we are now training the Chinese here in Freeport, IL to take over our jobs when the transition takes place at the end of this year. If you want to see what Romney’s America is like, look to Sensata Technologies here at Freeport, IL because we are already living in Romney’s America.
Sounds like you have almost 3 months to find a new job. Since according to FLOTUS the economy is booming, that should be cinch.
“At the end of this year Sensata Technologies is closing with 170 employees that will be out of work”
News Flash: Romney has not been in charge of Bain Capital for over 10 years.
If that plant is closing this year, its not Romneys call…
Just one question:
How many of my tax dollars were lost in this company going under.
Probably none, huh?
Compare that to the Billions Obama lost at Solyndra, to name just one.
Facts are a M*therf*cker aint they?
Sensata Technologies is the professional Left’s latest “Big Bird” scandal. Mark is probably an OFA bot trying to manufacture a foreign scandal just in time for the third Presidential Debate.
Betcha Obama mentions Sensata.
OFA bots are so predictable.
Flawed Monetary Policy: “QE Infinity” Won’t Work, What the Banks Are Really Afraid Of … By Global Research News Global Research, October 20, 2012
http://www.globalresearch.ca/flawed-monetary-policy-qe-infinity-wont-work-what-the-banks-are-really-afraid-of/5308957
Krugman is a clown, like Maureen Dowd or Frank Rich at the NYT, not worth the breath to debunk.
Krugman’s argument, such as it is, is that 2008 was not a recession but a – I forget the term he chose, but call it a market failure. He found the last three of whatevers they were, and says they had longer recoveries, just like now. He *may* have a point: in 2008 the recession was accompanied by a larger collapse of some kind, it’s hard to say which caused what.
However, his idea that immense deficit spending will save the day, borders on insanity. A few months ago he went on all the Sunday shows and posted on his own sites, a chart he made up of something or other, built on the FRED system (he left the tag in the graph)
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/
FRED doesn’t check your work, you can add the time of day to the cost of wheat if you want, and it will like a good computer dutifully graph it for you. And that’s what Krugman did, added incomensurable measures. Sophomore econ majors would be told to change majors, making an idiotic mistake like that.
If he was ever actually competent, it’s all gone now.
I ignore Krugman for one very simple reason – He believes in INFINITE money printing and spending. Why? Because “the US dollar (is currently still) the worlds reserve currency”.
That is delusional BULLSHIT. Endless currency printing and spending ALWAYS ends in hyperinflationary collapse, EVERY country/nation state that tried to print and spend it’s way out of debt ended up a destiture, miserable s**thole when reality finally caught up with them.
Zimbabwe, Wiemar republic, Argentina 2001 (and 2013), Greece 12 months from now…
Fundamental transformation indeed.
Yup, EVERY paper-based monetary system since the beginning of time has eventually failed. Ours will to.
Frankly, as a trained economist, and as I have said before, I think he may be insane. And I am not kidding. I really mean that he may be insane.
I did notice that he seemed to have jumped the shark when his stances on the stimulus and his spend without austerity models went up in smoke here and in Greece, Spain, etc. Since then he has stepped far beyond the fringes of reality and blathers on about how evil any austerity plan is while supporting more unpayable debt.
Krugman will never be wrong because he will always move the goal posts. He implies we should add another few trillion to the stimulus to make it work and as this will never happen he can continue singing his Keynesian songs. When Hollande fails in France I suppose he will suggest raising the taxes 85% on the rich as the only solution.
Krugman “…like a madman shouting on the street corner…”??? I’d say, more like a madam standing on a street corner. The NYT is his street corner. No longer can he leave, ’cause who would have him? Serves him right! Good pay, though, while it lasted.
Krugman, the shifty-eyed little weasel, is what a stupid person thinks a smart person sounds like.
Have you all seen “The Ultimate Krugman Takedown?”
Great fun with Krug at a Conference in Spain – economist Pedro Schwartz takes him to the woodshed and…well…it is much like a warthog trapped under a toolbench in that same shed…
Go here for video, scroll down slightly, then move the slider to minute 0.35.30 for Schwartz and English to begin
Readers of Atlas Shrugged will easily recognize Krugman as Dr. Robert Stadler after he emotional brokedown during Galt’s speech. Not sure if the break with reality came because of a similar intellectual/psychological break with one of his peers or students, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it did.
I see the commentariat and writers of PJ have not managed to get their heads out of high-school.
You’re going to ignore Krugman? 14th most cited economist in the world, and you’re going to ignore him? That’s like the just-moved-to-a-new-school nerd ignoring the valedictorian. Cubed. Good luck with that.
Also. Ignoring him. That would mean *not writing about him*. What is this thing I am reading?
Usually I come to this site to feel superior because the commentariat are insane. Today I can feel superior because the writer is a dumbass. Even more so than usual for PJ. Impressive, that.
Your comments are devastating. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
On a less sarcastic note, are you claiming that Dr. Krugman is the “14th most cited economist in the world” (an assertion given with no proof) due to his published economic works or due to his NYT columns?
Mjaum, you’re so smart you just copied bits and pieces of a comment above.
Share us more of your plagiarizing wisdom.
“14th most cited economist in the world” So what, if all he sprouts is nonsense ravings his words have NO value. Remember you can fool most of the people most of the time, economists included.
“and you’re going to ignore him?” We should, when his economic theories consist of printing and spending until the US dollar detonates and makes everyone in the United States multi-trillionaires. Ask Zimbabwe, Argentina 2001, Wiemar Germany, Greece 6 months from now… how thats working for them.
You come to this site to feel superior?
Thats weird.
And you mention High-school clique/pecking order dynamics to make your point?
Thats even “weirder-er”
I think you need to grow up.
Your desperate need to see yourself among the “14th most cited” Popular Kids is revealing….
and embarrassing.
I’m currently in my Junior year of College as a transfer student, and economics was one of my last classes in both High School and at my old college, and not once do I ever recall my teachers mentioning Paul Krugman at any point, and I have a near-identic memory, so I’d know if they mentioned it.
Eidetic memory, dear. And no, you don’t have it.
I used to work at a Federal Reserve Bank. We kept the economists on a special floor away from the regular folks, but sometimes we would see them in the cafeteria. Special precautions had to be taken so they didn’t run into the walls.
Not impressed.
I think my favorite bit of Krugdung was this:
September 11, 2011, 8:41 AM
The Years of Shame
by Krugman
Is it just me, or are the 9/11 commemorations oddly subdued?
Actually, I don’t think it’s me, and it’s not really that odd.
What happened after 9/11 — and I think even people on the right know this, whether they admit it or not — was deeply shameful. Te atrocity should have been a unifying event, but instead it became a wedge issue. Fake heroes like Bernie Kerik, Rudy Giuliani, and, yes, George W. Bush raced to cash in on the horror. And then the attack was used to justify an unrelated war the neocons wanted to fight, for all the wrong reasons.
A lot of other people behaved badly. How many of our professional pundits — people who should have understood very well what was happening — took the easy way out, turning a blind eye to the corruption and lending their support to the hijacking of the atrocity?
The memory of 9/11 has been irrevocably poisoned; it has become an occasion for shame. And in its heart, the nation knows it.
I’m not going to allow comments on this post, for obvious reasons.
Yes,
Mr. Krugmans Economic Philosophy on display there.
All facts and numbers, cant you see them?
This is what he got his Nobel for.
A few years ago I read a statement from Mr. Krugman that he doesn’t bother to pay attention to opposing points of view. With that I knew my suspicions about him were correct. He’s a fraud and further proof that the Nobel Committee is as well.
Mr. Krugman reminds me a great deal of Dan Rather, who famously said upon the re-election of Ronald Reagan, “That just isn’t possible. I don’t know a single person who voted for him!” Krugman only knows, speaks with, reads and associated with people who believe exactly as he does, as does Mr. Rather and many of the inhabitants of the MSM. Surely, many of the people reading this formum have had the experience of having a conversation with someone who reacts to a statement you make with gaping, wide-eyed wonder: “But, you can’t *possibly* believe that!” because the statement is entirely outside their range of experience. Conservatives are innoculated against such isolation because we are constnatly bombarded with the opinions of the Left, and have to critically analyize their logic (or lack thereof) and supporting (or not) evidence.
The only thing that could save the Grey Lady would be the name Rupert Murdoch.