Adam Gadahn, né Adam Pearlman, a.k.a. “Azzam the American” is the 31-year-old Oregon native who converted to Islam and is now a “senior operative, cultural interpreter, spokesman and media advisor” for al-Qaeda. Since 2004, he’s been on the FBI’s “most wanted” list and is the first American in half a century to be charged with treason.
Over the last several years, Gadahn has appeared in several al-Qaeda sponsored videos. Just today, a new video appeared on several radical Muslim web sites. In it, Gadahn calls on every “honest and vigilant Muslim” to emulate Maj. Nidal Hasan, he of Ft. Hood infamy, to kill the infidel (that would be you and me) and do whatever possible to harm “the Zionist-Crusader alliance.”
“Nidal Hasan is a pioneer, a trailblazer and a role-model who has opened a door, lit a path and shown the way forward for every Muslim who finds himself among the unbelievers. . . . As the blessed operations of September 11th showed, a little imagination and planning and a limited budget can turn almost anything into a deadly, effective and convenient weapon.”
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It was only a few hours after this latest incitement to murder and mayhem that Pakistani officials announced that they had captured Gadahn. It was, as a news report in New York Daily News put it, “a huge victory” for the good guys, i.e. us, we Western infidels who promote that long list of things anathema to “honest and vigilant Muslims”—things like individual freedom, freedom of religion, representative democracy, equal rights for women, and a legal system that has bid farewell to barbaric practices like stoning, flogging, amputation, and beheading. If convicted, the News notes, Gadahn faces the death penalty. Good news.
But where, I wonder, will Eric Holder propose trying this disgusting person?
All I can say about this fantastic news is: “How do you like THEM apples, Adam?”
Hahahahahahaha….. PWN3D by the Infidel!!
I say leave him in Pakistan, where they still believe in hanging for capital offenses. Here, Holder might just slap his hand, or maybe BHO would make him a czar.
Pity we can’t give him the Philip Nolan treatment (but in the brig the entire time)…
Trial? Trial? Let us not be ridiculous; there will be no trial, Gadahn will be shot trying to escape Pakistani custody. The silly little boy should known better than to try to run for it on two broken legs.
Obama had better not botch THIS interrogation.
It was a bad way to work out your Daddy issues Adam.
Pearlman, eh?
Death penalty would be a very appropriate punishment for that kapo.
The optimal solution would be a civilian court for treason seeking the death penalty.
When I heard that there was a renewed push to find U.S. born terrorists in Pakistan, my first thought was “they’re looking for Gadahn.” Then, the suspicious little Hell Boy standing on my left shoulder whispered “Why him? Why now?” Bring him back to the U.S. for a public, civilian trial? There’s no propaganda value in that for Obambi, is there?
I think there is room for the left and the right to have a compromise venue. How about half way between here and Pakistan (i.e. the middle of the Atlantic Ocean).
9. Ditto, I’m less concerned with where Holder will want to try him than whether or not he’ll be willing to charge him with Treason.
Try him in the US and he’ll get off on some technicality. A week later he’ll renounce Islam and a week after that be hosting his own talk show on MSNBC.
He needs to have a fair trial and a speedy execution.
Lets hope the Pakistanis keep him and do things Third-world style on his a$$. Too bad they didn’t catch John Walker Lindh, too. Be nice to see that piece o’ sh*t languishing in a Pakistani prison with electrodes on his cajones as well, instead of living the high life at Club Fed.
If the Holder Justice Dept gets a hold of Adam Gadahn, they will be work out a deal for Gadahn to do community service working for ACORN.
C’mon, guys, think! Put the execution on pay-per-view. We’ll make a bundle!
Good if this is true, Oh well he had his fifteen minutes of fame, can we still draw and quarter folks, and then pour pig blood all over him while he is wearing a mask made of pigskin?
Try him? Why? Why don’t we simply punish him by Shiria law and stone, behead, flog or castrate him. He’s admitted his guilt on several occasions. He doesn’t “need no stinkin’ trial”.
Barbarian yes, but that is the only way to treat barbariand. They don’t understand anything else.
Lots of people seem to be assuming he will be extradited to the US. But what is Pakistan’s policy on extradition?
Sweet. To see this traitor at the end of a stiff infidel rope will be some ice-cold revenge.
He should get just what the Rosenberg’s got. No difference.
Traitor. He is forfeit any rights under the Constitution or Geneva Convention. Military tribunal, firing squad, cremation, no remains, not even a bare gray stone for a monument.
Lot’s of good “cruel and unusual” punishments here…
I say strap him in a chair, prop open his eyes, and then make him watch Obama’s speech’s on healthcare over and over and over…
That’s right…BORE him to death!
Citizens charged with a Federal crime, in this case treason, are entitled to duly constituted trial under the US criminal code, unless the citizen is a serving member of the armed forces and is charged with an offense against military law, in which case the defendant is entitled to a trial by duly constituted court-martial under the UCMJ.
The some American civilians have been tried by military tribunal. The trial of the eight Booth conspirators is a famous example. The court was criticized at the time as unconstitutional, but Attorney-General James Speed defended it as proper since Washington has been under martial law at the time of the assassination. The 1866 Ex parte Milligan decision of the SCOTUS banned the use military tribunals in places where civil courts were operational.
Given the state of the law Holder probably has no choice but to ask for a regular criminal trial in Federal court.
There is however a big catch, which ought to be resolved by first. Normally service in a foreign military organization entails automatic loss of citizenship. Is al-Qaeda a military organization or a criminal organization? Is Adam Gadahn a citizen?
I guess Holder’s Justice Department will have a help wanted sign posted, given that half of their recent hires will resign as they fight over the honor of representing this scum bag.
If he is tried in the USA and If he is convicted and IF he receives the death penalty. They damn well better kill him much quicker that the average scumbag.I mean before Obama leaaves office in 3 yearsNo super max private room put him in genetal population until his trial. It may save time and money and if he is really lucky he’ll get a hand around as a by-by present.
>>>>>>>>a week after that be hosting his own talk show on MSNBC.
Doesn’t the US Constitution ban cruel and unusual punishment?
I don’t think he would get more than 5 yrs in an American Civil courtroom. After all, the ACLU will argue, who are WE to tell anyone how to practice their “religion”. It’s all societies fault, you see, and after all, what harm did the poor confused boy really do?
I suggest he meet his end the same way his friends killed Daniel Perl- sawing his head off slowly with a dull knife.
Although staking him out at Ground Zero and allowing all 3000-odd next-of-kin of the 9/11 victims go to work on him with box cutters wouldn’t be bad.
The man is a US citizen and thus if he is to be charged with his crimes it has to be in the States. He gets his full constitutional rights and see if we can make a case for treason and execute the man.
This is test if we can make a case for treason in this day and age. If not then our justice system is not working on national level.
I personally have no problem with military tribunal but Adam had not taken physical action attacking our soldiers. He is the propagandist and therefore should be tried in criminal courts. He has committed treason so lets see if the system works.
This is the first I’ve heard of this and damn-near jumped out of my seat! My secong thought was to ask how badly this abomination of an administration will screw this up!
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can we still draw and quarter folks
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Yes, we *can*. We still have the technology and the knowledge. The question you mean to ask is either “may we”, in otherwords are we allowed to (in this case by law), and I think the answer is no, or is “should we”, which again I think the answer is no. If we’re going to go back to really, really painful executions like that I think we have better ways to do it that require much less effort.
So they got “Fat Basterd.” He hasn’t missed to many meals while “on the run.” Why are these jihadis so freaking overweight? I’m particularly glad because he developed this irritating habit that OBL and Al Zawahiri had of wagging his index finger during his videos. I hope the Pakistanis slam that famous finger in a drawer or something.
Speedy trial. Then, somebody get a rope.
Trial is not necessary, turn him over the the people of Orange County, he’s given us a dirty name and we’ve a score to settle!
Good, now if we can only add the portly NYT editor and fat Michael Moore as a defendant in the treason trial everything will be peachy keen.
34. Yeah, like crucifixion.
Federal courthouse, Alexandria, VA. sigh
Gee – what a shame – he’s going to learn that what goes around comes around – hopefully very slowly and painfully for him.
Where’s your Allah now??????
It is a victory for the honest and vigilant muslims who caught him.
Sure would hate to see anything happen to the guy…
Trial for this “monster”? Sad to say, NOTHING will happen to this individual. Same with the ones being held in connection with the 9/11 events. Will sit in jail, be taken care of by our tax money, write books, and live out a quiet life on the backs of us tax payers. Thus, he has his revenge. Don’t expect ANYTHING to happen to this individual. Punishment for crimes “allegedly” committed? Nope, doesn’t work like that these days…
But where, I wonder, will Eric Holder propose trying this disgusting person?
Holder, the terrorist-friendly cadre of lawyers he has hired and the ACLU are likely busy at work, as we speak, figuring out ways to protect the arrogant little turd’s “rights”.
Yeah lets try him behind close doors with no transparency instead of a civilian trial. Only countries like Iran, Russia and Venezuela would hold civilian trials. Oh wait, its just the opposite. It would be hilarious that conservatives are so ironic if it wasn’t so scary. Obama is a communist fascist who believes in the rule of law. But conservatives who believe in freedom and democracy want military trials like they would do in dictatorships. You peoples’ ideals are so confused and you don’t even realize it.
eric wants the civilian trial at his place. aclu office in karachi on top of it.
Boy, ya wonder if the admin got the news, and said, “Hey, that’s great, makes us look good..!”
Follwed about 20 minutes later by a “Hmmm. Uh-oh…”
This opens all sorts of problems for our benighted CinC. Is he really ready to prosecute someone for treason, something the howling right-wing blood-dripping fascists Reagan, Bush, and Cheney never even did? And if this is not treason… what the hell is?
Then we even have the KSM trial argument, but an even tougher question, since this insect is an American citizen.
And does anyone doubt that the same downsides of the KSM trial will apply here, regarding security and, far more signifcant in my book, the obvious opportunity for rabid Islamo-fascists to be literally granted coast-to-coast air time to spout their vicious criminal nonsense for days or weeks on end?
And how will Americans feel about that when they hear it, in our current political environment, one not entirely friendly to the progressives who have been saying… um.. pretty much the same things for decades?
Yeah, I’m thinkin’ it would be a real shame if this Islamo-fattist sorta, “tried to escape”, wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more. I think savvier heads in the White House (if they exist, and I do wonder) might come to agree.
Does anyone remember Timothy McVeigh? I think he must have broken the record for speed from guilty verdict to execution. None of this 20 year stuff on death row, no appeals: guilty — needle. Shouldn’t this character fall into the same category? Although the temptation to do him some horrible brutality is strong, I don’t see that happening. But quick justice? By all means. F
Yeah, baby! (I’ll bet all the left/libtards in Berkeley are disappointed.)
Fortunately or unfortunately, Gadahn is an American citizen, who is the subject of a pending indictment for Treason. The indictment was brought by the Bush administration. Holder had nothing to do with it. If Gadahn is extradited, and I suppose we will have to ask, he must be tried in the court where he was indicted. If the Pakistanis want to try him for criminal conspiracy and hang him, before he is extradited, that is his problem. We can only hope all the juice is squeezed out of the lemon before it is packed and shipped.
American law is too good for this man. The present adm would mess this up somehow, no doubt!! Don’t bring him here!!!
SHARIA!!!! for him.
I guess were in a ‘wait and see’ mode. CBS & NYT currently reporting it was not Gadayhn.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/07/world/main6275953.shtml
I think that the only place we should send Gadahn is______PRINCETON UNIVERSITY. There he can hobnob with the likes of Cornel West and Van Jones, the recently-departed Czar
of all the ‘Bamas. That should be punishment enough for him.
I think he needs to meet my good friend from Sweden, Mr. Husqvarna.
I don’t think we need to worry about trying him. I’m fully confident that the Pakistani justice system can help him see the error in his ways.
Why would it be our decision at all? He was arrested by Pakistani forces in Pakistan after breaking Pakistani law. We could send an Embassy rep to hold his hand while the Pakistanis try him.
We would probably request extradition after he serves whatever sentence he receives in Pakistan.
Okay, if not Adam Gadahn, who did they really arrest?
Adam Pearlman is a Jewish terrorist.
His grandfather, Carl Pearlman, was on the Board of Directors for a Jewish organization, the Anti Defamation League.
The Anti Defamation League is a Zionist front.
Adam Pearlman “ALLEGEDLY” converted to Islam WHILE LIVING with his JEWISH GRANDFATHER and JEWISH GRANDMOTHER.
Adam Pearlman is a “DOUBLE AGENT”.
The Jews are pushing PROPAGANDA by pretending to be Muslims.
I hope the Pakistanis waterboard Adam Pearlman and make him urinate on the Torah!
Let’s just try “All enemy combatants” at Gitmo. Then when all have been tried? The O can close Gitmo. The ACLU will keep Gitmo open for years, just trying to protect their so called rights
Should Robert Gibbs be worried about being replaced now?
There are several good choices for venues listed above, so many, in fact, that I can’t make up my mind…
OK – here’s an idea: let’s chop al Amriki into chunks and try those in various venues just to be safe…
Capturing these doobags is just the first step…lets start waxing all these islammy goat boinkers.
Try him in Pakistan. If we try him here, he will get off and eventually get a job at Princeton.
Either put him on a navy ship and transfer him from that ship to another as that ship makes port never letting him ever see the United States again like Philip Nolan or put him before a military firing squad. This traitor deserves nothing less and does not deseve any constitutional rights. He is a man without a country. People with this sort of philosophical ideas should be held accountable for them
Holder already has 9 Muslim terrorist apologists working for him. What’s wrong with one more?
Well if he’s in Pakistan, why not leave him there and use the laws of Pakistan for his fate? That would keep E. Holder out of it and that would work well for America.
Why is the Justice Department even involved in overseas military matters? Is it in their jurisdiction? They can’t try US military personnel, so what business do they have trying enemy combatants?
59. Jewish Terrorist: “Adam Pearlman is a “DOUBLE AGENT”. The Jews are pushing PROPAGANDA by pretending to be Muslims. I hope the Pakistanis waterboard Adam Pearlman and make him urinate on the Torah!”
Yep, hate speech is just “too loosely defined” to detect. To Rog and his ilk, the above is just one man’s opinion.
Everybody knows Holder is a ultra liberal country hater, so we all know this clown they caught will get a better break than our Navy seals scheduled for trial. These are our true hero’s, but not to our administration
Maybe I am out of line saying Holder is a country hater, but the rest of what I say is backed by his past actions Our Navy Seal should have been exonerated long ago. .
71. The AG has no jurisdiction over courts martial.
Anyone believe that Holder can make his own decision any longer?
He’s just another fall guy.
“Well if he’s in Pakistan, why not leave him there and use the laws of Pakistan for his fate? That would keep E. Holder out of it and that would work well for America.”
That might work, considering Pakistan has no problem putting accused terrorists on trial, convicting them, and sending them to jail, something the United States has a problem doing.
I vote for reverse-rendition to Killeen, Texas.
Neal and Fat Man,
There is one flaw to both of your arguments. On one of his very first video, he denounced his citizenship and tore up his passport (on camera). By his own words and actions, he is no longer a citizen of the USA (no ambiguity). It is not like the others who just committed terrorist, or treasonist acts. He can be held as a unlawful combatant. Milligan does not apply as the ruling was pertaining to those who were under the jurisdicttion of the civilian courts, notably citizens. At least there is one good thing, Holder and his ilk can’t just brush this under the table. They would have to clear the indictment, which I don’t think anyone hass the guts to do.
He did not blow himself up, and I know for a fact Allah willed it.
Apostate!
The some American civilians have been tried by military tribunal. The trial of the eight Booth conspirators is a famous example. The court was criticized at the time as unconstitutional, but Attorney-General James Speed defended it as proper since Washington has been under martial law at the time of the assassination. The 1866 Ex parte Milligan decision of the SCOTUS banned the use military tribunals in places where civil courts were operational.
#76 “There is one flaw to both of your arguments. On one of his very first video, he denounced his citizenship and tore up his passport (on camera). By his own words and actions, he is no longer a citizen of the USA (no ambiguity).”
Actually, that does not translate into losing, or renouncing, one’s citizenship. There’s quite a bit more to it, and he is still legally a US citizen. I know of what I speak; I do this for a living, and have taken renunciations, and refused them because the person in front of me did not meet the legal requirements.
This person is an American citizen, and certainly has already been visited several times by US Consular officers in Pakistan. If he leaves Pakistan alive he’ll get his day in court, and then, hopefully, hang for treason.
Jewish Terrorist
Your ramblings remind me on someone else with the same kind of reasoning skills. I can’t decide whether it is Adolf Hitler and his Mein Kampf or Mohammed and his Quran. Read them both, they are strikingly similar to your train of thought.
Hello,
The people that destroyed TWC at New york said we will not sit down and let Muslims kill us rather we will kill and it will be like them who are Islam that did it and they rolled the dream.Mr. Jere Longman and his friend were the hijackers that realized Nostradamus dream made in France when they told a big lie about 9/11/2001 attack on twin towers.
Osama Bin Laden and Ayeman Alzawahiri did not know the attackers of new York World Trade Center. Because Al-qud means Al-queada which is like Biamos called Biafra Mobile Telephone Service that is Biafra Mobile Service.
Alqueada was a product of Al-Qud Brigade a group which they said exist in Palestine university Al-qud that is an Islamic fundamentalist union.
He Osama bin laden believe that USA government was among people the people who called and stimulated a virtual organization that is a mirage in known as Al-qud brigade.
Osama Bin Laden and other Taliban chief at Afghanistan was surprise when they heard that
twin tower called WTC was destroyed because they do not know who was Mohamed Attah and the other hijackers.
This case is a wonderful opportunity for Obama’s DHS to finally prove they can do their jobs WITHIN the Constitution. Just put him on trial in Texas. Those guys already know what to do.