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July 22nd, 2014 - 4:41 pm

The Birnbaum-Tibon megapiece in the New Republic on why the Palestinian peace process failed is as interesting for what it does not contain as much as what it does. Written in “fly in the wall” style it describes how negotiators from the Obama administration, Israel and the Palestinians tried — and failed — to start a peace process. The bricks of the edifice were  prisoner swaps and agreements, which when presumably constructed in some fashion would create a stable modus vivendi.

The drama as related by the New Republic could either have been tragedy or a comedy of errors; viewed with a suspension of disbelief it would appear that some actor somehow missed a brick, misconveyed an impression, reneged on a deal or simply flew off on a tangent so that ultimately the deal was missed for the nth time.  But the last source quoted by the New Republic piece was more cynical. The negotiations were merely a play-within-a-play. The tragedy was external to the negotiations. The hero would never get the girl onstage whatever he said because the roof of the theater was about to fall in.

“I see it from a mathematical point of view,” said Avi Dichter, the former chief of Israel’s Shin Bet intelligence agency. “The American effort will always be multiplied by the amount of trust between the two leaders. So if Kerry’s pressure represents the number five, and then Obama’s help brings the American effort to ten, it really doesn’t matter. You’re still multiplying it by zero. The final result will always be zero.”

That’s mostly what the narrative misses, through no fault of its own. While protagonists in the Birnbaum and Tibon story lived in an world of diplomatic continuity, where formulas and proposals persisted on from one decade to the other, the world in which they lived was discontinuous and had changed out of all recognition.

Thirty years ago Israel was besieged by powerful Arab states backed the superpower Soviet Union. Today the besiegers have largely self-destructed. Egypt is starving and divided. Jordan is flooded with refugees. Iraq and Syria are wracked by civil war. Hamas’s patron, the Muslim Brotherhood, is on the outs in battered Egypt.  And Russia is busy in Ukraine with enough of its own rockets to fire.

The Palestinian negotiators, perhaps encouraged by the attention paid them by UN and John Kerry, were urged by memories of faded glory to make imperious demands, confident they remained world-important. But in reality their old state pals had been hung from gibbets, exhibited in meat lockers or were hunkered down in palace bunkers. Objectively the Palestinians were beggarly nobodies rocketing a country 1,000 times their own military potential in order to scare up some measly donations.

It was an accident waiting to happen.  So they drew their rusty pistola and the IDF drew its minigun.

True this weakness was offset to some extent by increased support for Palestinian causes in the West and the increasing range, accuracy and miniaturization of the missiles it used to bombard Israel. This had the curious effect of appearing to increase their diplomatic leverage while simultaneously restricting them to physical actions that would make negotiated solutions impossible. The Palestinians had a hammer only the problem was to saw wood. Alas for diplomacy the only thing the Palestinians can actually do is fight. The only thing the West demands of them is to stop doing the only thing they can do.

The best alternative to a negotiated settlement for both Israel and Palestine may now be to fight to the finish, because each is surprised to find they have no alternative. To understand why we must mentally go back nearly 70 years, to Okinawa.

Okinawa, like Iwo Jima before it, represented the highest development of tunnel warfare. During the campaign the Americans learned that no amount of conventional weaponry could effectively shut down a network of tunnels and caves bored into the earth. To put the tunnels out of business you actually needed to take and hold the ground.

This was an complicated and expensive proposition, because the approaches to the underground installations were covered by interlocking fields of fire and minefields, and in places by pre-registered fields of fire. The Marines found the only way to take these ant-colony defenses was to bring mobiles “caves” of their own (the M4 Sherman tank) and in their cover suppress the riflemen guarding the approaches to seal off the network of tunnels one by one from the vantage of dead ground which dominated the exits. They gave this the picturesque name “blowtorch and corkscrew”. The Japanese called them “straddle attacks”.

Doubtless the state of military art has advanced since 1945 but the question remains: what possible intermediate objective can the IDF have in Gaza but to take and hold the ground in the face of tunnel warfare? The IDF can hardly bombard Gaza ad infinitum like Sugarloaf Hill. Whereas the Japanese tunnels in Okinawa were covered by 30 feet of rock, the Hamas tunnels in Gaza are protected by three layers of civilians. Which is more permeable? Counterbattery alone cannot stop the missiles, nor can intercepting them with Iron Dome suffice when airlines decide to stop flights into Ben Gurion on the mere threat that the airport can be bombarded.

Each side is backed into a corner. The combination of conventional weakness and Palestinian Western diplomatic strength plus the military impracticability of shutting down Hamas and its missiles will create an almost irresistible incentive for the IDF to continue. The Israelis must be thinking: better to watch the movie now that it’s paid admission than leave the screening in the middle of the showing only to pay again when it returns to finish it.

Because given the slightest window, the Palestinians will rocket again.

This of course, is a recipe for escalation. The time for an easy solution was long ago. The penalty for dragging out a diplomatic solution for too long is that in the end it makes war look almost attractive by comparison.  One way to discredit a good cause is via a bad implementation. Diplomats sometimes fail to see this. They always think there’s water left in the well. When the Tamil Tigers were surrounded by the Sri Lankan military and on the verge of annihilation one Western diplomat reportedly warned Colombo: “if you defeat them, then who will you negotiate with?”

It’s a good question, but one that has no answer within the diplomatic context. Unfortunately diplomacy is not the only context on this sad earth.  The penalty for trying and failing is failing.


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If it was up to me I would decree that for every missile fired from Gaza that would mean one month where Gaza would get no electricity or water from Israel. The Israeli's can turn Gaza into a most uninhabitable spot if they choose, not from doing anything to it but by refusing to enable it. Let the Palestinian scum crawl away to far rocks to inhabit.

I remember. I still remember. After 9/11 the Palestinian scum were cheering in the streets and passing out candy. Screw them. Never forget just what scum they are, and never feel sympathy for the misery they call down upon themselves.
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Obama's favorite movie is The Godfather.

As Don Corleone is dying, he keeps telling Michael one thing to remember.

The one who comes to you "promising you'll be safe", that's the traitor.

Tessio comes to Michael at the funeral and tells him all the arrangements have been made. It will be safe on his turf.

Obama/Kerry/Malley/Jarrett who are in bed with the Muslim Brotherhood, tried to install them and give them their own territories in Egypt, Libya and have been meeting secretly with Hamas since 2008...are promising to "negotiate the peace".

They are doing everything in secret, bypassing Congress and keeping the American people...who support Israel in massive percentages...including giving Iran every chance to gather billions of dollars and continue the path to nuclear capacity.

Israel has to go to the mattresses. And settle all the family business.

Hamas has to be crushed. The Muslim Brotherhood is a pimp. What Israel has to recognize is that it was Barackzini all along.

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Counterbattery alone cannot stop the missiles, nor can intercepting them with Iron Dome suffice when airlines decide to stop flights into Ben Gurion on the mere threat that the airport can be bombarded.

By canceling the flights, rendering Israel effectively without an international airport, the West just forced Netanyahu's hand. He must now proceed to destroy Hamas at the roots and reoccupy Gaza. Fortunately the political weather (with Egypt currently frowning on the Muslim Brotherhood, the President of the United States having burnt his bridges with Israel, and Hamas having alienated their Iranian benefactors by siding against Assad in Syria) makes this the best opportunity to do so.
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Reverse Sharon's decsion to leave Gaza. Institute Isreaeli military and security and have the Palestinian Authority take over civil govt functions similar to the West Bank--basically, go back to ca. 2004.

Yeah, some a-holes will scream but so what? Sharon left Gaza on te baissi of American promises that Obama didn't uphold, compoon that no one expected.

Well, sometimes a mistake can be corrected, albeit at a cost.

Doesn't solve the whole Israeli-Pali problem, but that is beyond anyone right now. But it would be an improvement and if the Palis and their Authority every decide to grow up, maybe progress could be made somewhere down the line.
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Computer talk:

I pressed "post" and nothing happened for 4 minutes.

Then I turned off my "Avast" antivirus, reloaded the page, and the posting process was flawless.

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Well, it was on again for this one, and it still worked.

Maybe I just got caught in line behind Marie?

hmm...
21 weeks ago
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hey, I'm not a Chinese, but if you want to ruin our net, we have some computering geniouses that can send you back the boomrang
21 weeks ago
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Marie is a Paid Pootie Poot Agent running a distraction campaign for this:

Why Is France Building Warships For Russia?

France has really done it this time — the country is apparently going ahead with a plan to sell Russia two Mistral-class amphibious assault ships, a move which is understandably none too popular with NATO and its member states, who understandably wonder if this is the best time for NATO to be arming Russia.

Or to paraphrase Vladimir Lenin, NATO wonders whether it's selling Russia the rope with which Russia will hang it.

The Mistral is a modern, advanced amphibious assault ship capable of carrying up to 900 troops, a tank battalion, and 16 to 35 helicopters.

https://news.vice.com/article/why-is-france-building-warships-for-russia
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you're talking as a EuroMaidan worshipper

France isn't building warships for Russia, but a private Company with Swedish shareholding is

But France is aware of your administration lies, so she isn't going to comply to your empty suit policy

BTW, the Mistral are emptty shells, they are sold DISARMED, wht Russia will do with them, it's Russia's problem.

AND ain't that funny that they are geered with icebreakers? certainly not for navigating in Black Sea, but in the Artic waters. Plus why would Russia needs such ships for invading Ukraine, when thousands roads can make it?

The thing is that Obama is making a economical war with Europe, he needs to ruin our still efficient and valuable industry, armament, we wonder why? since the F35 is a disaster !

France credibility for further arms markets would be ruined if she renounced to the Mistral trade, first the Ralfale sale to India, that still the american and the Brit administration try to nuke, ships sales to Saudi arabia and Egypt, and more to come from the emirates... that were the US hunting reserve

so, we can say, that a open economical war is open full speed
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In hell the chefs are English, the police are German, the courts are Italian, the warships are French...
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telll that to your dear leader, he believes like Putin, that the french ships are the best

ahahah
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Q. Why does the French fleet have glass viewing ports on the bottom?

A. Because they like to look at the last french fleet.
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I tell ya, you're brainwashed by your presstitute mongoloid readers jokes
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Q. Why do all French sailors have to be over 6 feet tall?

A. So when the ship sinks, they can wade ashore.
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ask the Brits how it is to feel like sinking

holly cow, but you had that emotion too, when Israel fired at one US ship, even worst, when iranian kids boats were dicng with your fleet in Oman sea
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For some reason I can't manage to give a sh!t about either side in the Ukraine-Russia flap...There's a War on Morons going on right here at home.
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Dr. Mabuse asserted: MH17 was shot down by his [Putin's] paid thugs and there's nothing more to discuss."

That line of "the science is settled"-type argument has been played ad nauseam by the fact-challenged Anthropogenic Global Warming crowd. It is surprising to see it mabused on Wrtechard's blog.

There are indeed things to discuss.:
- Why did the EU-installed thug regime in Kiev direct MH 17 out of its usual path to overfly a zone of conflict?
- Why has said thug regime seized the Air Traffic Control tapes and not made them public?
- Why did the thug regime move Surface to Air missile batteries into the zone of conflict a few days before the shootdown when the freedom fighters had no aircraft?
- Why has there been not a single eye-witness report or dash-cam video showing the asserted Surface to Air missile rising to its target? (Remember when a meteor exploded over Russia recently, YouTube was deluged with dash-cam videos, since most people in that part of the world have one running continuously).
- Why did the thug regime have two jet fighters shadowing MH17? And why has the thug regime kept quiet about that? (Remember Old Salt's initial conclusion that the plane was brought down by an Air-to-Air missile).
- Why did the thug regime not declare an immediate halt to its hostilities against fellow Ukrainians to allow for investigation & recovery at the crash site?

And of course the big question for all the lazy minds echoing the Soetero regime's condemnation of Putin: Cui Bono? The destruction of MH17 has done nothing for Russia or the Ukrainians attempting to escape from the thug regime in Kiev; it has been a major benefit for that thug regime.

Of course, none of the above proves anything -- except that we should withhold judgment until someone puts some firm evidence in the public domain. Trust-worthy evidence. Not Soetero's Benghazi video-type evidence.
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"The science is settled" is a bad concept because it deals with science. The events of July 17, 2014, however, are not science, they are history. And the concept that history can never be truly settled is called revisionism, something *I* am surprised to see bruited about on Wretchard's blog.
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Marie Claude

May I offer my congratulations on the immense improvement in your English in the last 24 hours. It is hard to believe that a lone individual could progress so far, so fast. I have every confidence that you will master counting to the number 4 soon.

>>>"and you dare to call yourself our allies?"<<<

Actually, I think many here would not dream of it.

Subotai Bahadur
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I don't accept falsh flag congratulations

never thought that you would dream to be a "allié", but a total foe
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Dash cams are ubiquitous in Russia due to the extreme prevalence of police corruption. You didn't think it was just a fad, like those Garfield cats stuck on the back windows in America, did you? I presume this sort of is not as much as a problem in Ukraine.
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I thought it was so we could be treated to a constant supply of amazing youtube videos of mayhem on the frozen Russian "Freeways."

Wretchard could devote one thread for us to post our personal favorites, and then let us vote on them.
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I don't see much chance of credible evidence coming to light the way the "rebels" have been tampering with the crash scene. They had control of the black boxes for a couple of days and who knows what they did to them. The remnants of the plane have apparently been sawed into pieces. I suspect any evidence that makes it to the west will be so thoroughly compromised it will not be believed by anyone.
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The black boxes have already been delivered to the IRS for destruction.
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Then they are probably only scratched.
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and now it's the Brits, your poodles, so we can expect that they ALSO will advance your state department conspiration
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I suppose in that event we will just have to go on the admission of guilt by the perps on Facebook.
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hey, that was the real argument for you administration, youtube and social networks...

where's the NSA when we need it?
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That's outrageous, Sparky.
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There's a very uncomfortable story out on Reuters today which I imagine will be giving you and your sweetheart, Marie Claude, a bit of heartburn tonight:

"In an interview with Reuters, Alexander Khodakovsky, commander of the Vostok Battalion, (NOTE: PUTIN-BACKED SEPARATIST GROUP) acknowledged for the first time since the airliner was brought down in eastern Ukraine on Thursday that the rebels did possess the BUK missile system and said it could have been sent back subsequently to remove proof of its presence."

"I knew that a BUK came from Luhansk. At the time I was told that a BUK from Luhansk was coming under the flag of the LNR," he said, referring to the Luhansk People’s Republic, the main rebel group operating in Luhansk, one of two rebel provinces along with Donetsk, the province where the crash took place.

"That BUK I know about. I heard about it. I think they sent it back. Because I found out about it at exactly the moment that I found out that this tragedy had taken place. They probably sent it back in order to remove proof of its presence," Khodakovsky told Reuters on Tuesday.

ooops. He didn't get the memo saying that he wasn't supposed to talk about this in public, but I guess that's always a problem when you give up on all of your command and control systems.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/23/us-ukraine-crisis-commander-exclusive-idUSKBN0FS1V920140723?utm_source=twitter

and I had to add, this really takes a prize in the "Stupid Questions" category: "Why has there been not a single eye-witness report or dash-cam video showing the asserted Surface to Air missile rising to its target?" How about BECAUSE THE SEPARATISTS CONTROL THAT ENTIRE REGION, AND THEY WILL SHOOT ANYONE WHO SENDS OUT ANYTHING THEY DON'T APPROVE OF!!!!

or, if you like, answer B: BECAUSE THE SEPARATISTS WERE THE ONLY ONES FILMING IT WHEN THEY FIRED THAT MISSILE OFF!!

I mean really, I've read your stuff before, but I've never seen you be this lame. This post was pathetic.
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hey about your conspiracy salvior

"Khodakovsky makes clear that he doesn’t know which unit might have had the missile or from where it was fired. He makes it clear that he has no precise or real information. His theory is that the Ukrainian government tricked the separatists into firing the missile by launching airstrikes in the area over which the airliner was flying and by sending military jets to the vicinity of the airliner to create the appearance of military aircraft. Reuters quotes Khodakovsky, “”Even if there was a BUK, and even if the BUK was used, Ukraine did everything to ensure that a civilian aircraft was shot down”

Not knowing the nature of Khodakovsky’s dispute with other commanders or his motivation, it is difficult to assess the validity of his story, but his tale does explain why Ukrainian air control would route the Malaysian airliner over the combat area, a hitherto unexplained decision.

After the sensational part of its story, Reuters seems to back away a bit. Reuters quotes Khodakovsky saying that the separatist movement has different leaders and “our cooperation is somewhat conditional.” Khodakovsky then becomes uncertain as to whether the separatists did or did not have operational BUK missiles. According to Reuters, Khodakovsky “said none of the BUKs captured from Ukrainian forces were operational.” This implies that Russia provided the working missile to the separatists if such a missile existed."

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/07/23/us-intelligence-evidence-russia-paul-craig-roberts/

check there's also a article made for you on your favorite presstitute
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your Khodakovsky, definitly, is disqualified, he is nobody in Donetvk, since he is seen as a traitor

http://russiepolitics.blogspot.ru/2014/07/laffaire-du-buk-des-rebels-donetsk-ou.html
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oh oh Reuters a presstitute?


http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/07/23/u-s-admits-mh17-evidence-based-youtube-clips-social-media-posts/

U.S. Admits Its MH17 ‘Evidence’ is Based on YouTube Clips & Social Media Posts
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Video of Rebel Buk Launchers Headed Back to Russia? No - Images From Ukraine-Held Territory Since May

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2014/07/video-of-rebel-buk-launchers-headed.html#2L4VltiZ6X9meRTZ.99
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that's such a trustful source !

the films were made by your CIA boys that are squatting Kiev !

U.S. Admits Its MH17 ‘Evidence’ is Based on YouTube Clips & Social Media Posts

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/07/23/u-s-admits-mh17-evidence-based-youtube-clips-social-media-posts/
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http://consortiumnews.com/2014/07/19/airline-horror-spurs-new-rush-to-judgment/

President Barack Obama talks with Ambassador Samantha Power, U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations, following a Cabinet meeting in the Cabinet Room of the White House, Sept. 12, 2013. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)
President Barack Obama talks with Ambassador Samantha Power, U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations, following a Cabinet meeting in the Cabinet Room of the White House, Sept. 12, 2013. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)
Regarding the shoot-down of the Malaysian jetliner on Thursday, I’m told that some CIA analysts cite U.S. satellite reconnaissance photos suggesting that the anti-aircraft missile that brought down Flight 17 was fired by Ukrainian troops from a government battery, not by ethnic Russian rebels who have been resisting the regime in Kiev since elected President Viktor Yanukovych was overthrown on Feb. 22.

According to a source briefed on the tentative findings, the soldiers manning the battery appeared to be wearing Ukrainian uniforms and may have been drinking, since what looked like beer bottles were scattered around the site. But the source added that the information was still incomplete and the analysts did not rule out the possibility of rebel responsibility.

A contrary emphasis has been given to the Washington Post and other mainstream U.S. outlets. On Saturday, the Post reported that “on Friday, U.S. officials said a preliminary intelligence assessment indicated the airliner was blown up by an SA-11 surface-to-air missile fired by the separatists.” But the objectivity of the Obama administration, which has staunchly supported the coup regime, is in question as are the precise reasons for its judgments.

Even before the Feb. 22 coup, senior administration officials, including Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt, were openly encouraging protesters seeking the overthrow of Yanukovych. Nuland went so far as to pass out cookies to the demonstrators and discuss with Pyatt who should be appointed once Yanukovych was removed.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-21/russia-says-has-photos-ukraine-deploying-buk-missiles-east-rader-proof-warplanes-mh1

"Russia Says Has Photos Of Ukraine Deploying BUK Missiles In East, Radar Proof Of Warplanes In MH17 Vicinity"

woah woah

and Obama would like that the French renounce to theeir Mistral sales, there's no point to endorse his lies
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The British and the Americans should do to the French Navy what the British were forced to do in 1940 - destroy it in the harbor before they hand it over to our enemies.
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and you dare to call yourself our allies?

what foes you are !

sorry to tell ya, Churchill can't pretend to get subsidies from the US anymore, cuz you're broke, none wants your toilet paper at face-value anymore, and the French still learnt the lesson, they have the BOMB, that is workable for WHOever would want to attack them today, like the US tried to derail their satellits in 2003, after that Chirac refused to play the foreign legion for your silly WMD hunting in Irak, you know what did the French then? they retaliated on the US satellits, and that was the end of your hackering

ahahah

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It was always clear to me during my 26 years in the United States Navy that France was nothing but a bunch of whiners, who at every War Game I was involved in at CINCLANTFLT, had a senior officer stand up before the games began and announce (sometimes in briefings 2 hours long) that "simulated use of French nuclear weapons was at the sole discretion of the participating French Admiral." The message was clear: NATO (or OTAN as they prefer) could basically kiss their ace.

In my first game I asked some of the more senior members, "Who the Hell is that guy?"

Response: "Some French Admiral"

Me: "Are they simulating the opfor?"

Response: "Well, good for you for your first War Game! - you already broke the code."
21 weeks ago
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look, do you remember that that were you the whinners at fort necessity when a bunch of french settlers made your Big Washington surrendering with his Hessan mercenaries, then you initiated the white flag tradition

26 years, and you made Dday, congratulations you have such a extensible time definition for your war involvment

and your NATO ass kissing, is a mere product of your deluding imagination. France got out of NATO in 1967, when still the nuclear tests weren't achieved, and reintegrated it back in 2009, whereas I thing you already were retired, according to your old schmock semantic , and anyways, the french computering system wasn't and I believe still isn't compatible with the other Nato members systems, the Anglo-Saxons if you prefer

I was reading in your good presstitute that you didn't test your bomb since 25 years ago, or something, and that your Nevada is full of radio-activity, some waste !
21 weeks ago
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I don't know if the British were so much "forced" to bomb the Frog frigates as taken off their leash.
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Churchill wanted to play the warmongering prima-donna for the US, he attacked hhis closest allies that weren't expecting such a backstabbing
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Warmongering. Right. It's not like Hitler already had that category licked hands down.
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of course not since He relied on Emrican finances and industry to turn the world upside down
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The French have always deserved the back of our hands and nothing more.
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except when we saved your asses from Cornwallis

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ain't that funny, since the state department knows that Russia ALSO has satellit images on the plane trajectory, Obama administration isn't so sure that Russia and or the separatists made it

http://russiepolitics.blogspot.fr/2014/07/crash-du-boeing-mh17-les-etats-unis.html?spref=fb
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AC said: IBB and all the bargaining strategies that resemble it come from a world of soft, comfortable people who've never dealt with an existential threat; don't even really comprehend existential threats.

Your average hedge lawyers who "negotiate" as part of their standard duties are unlikely to employ anything like IBB either. Why not? Because it's not usually in their clients' best interests.

Really appreciate your posts, Art, thanks.
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I'm not a charitable person so I agree with cfbleachers that the Obamunists are allied with the MB and Qatar, maybe even Iran. But if I were going to be charitable and I kinda, sorta will be to some of the useful idiots in and supporting of the Soros Junta, excuse me, Obama Administration, I could blame the disastrous US policy in the MENA on Hahvud, where most of these idiots matriculated as icons of affirmative action.

Hahvud has this notion called "interest based bargaining." I came to know of it in the collective bargaining environment but they teach it to business leaders, foreign service types, pretty much anybody who'll listen and pay, heavy on the pay because they're very proud of it. Since IBB is so fashionable, I and all my staff gave Hahvud good money for the joint Hahvud/MIT IBB program on collective bargaining. It is utter BS!

The fundamental notion is that liberal given that all people are really the same and all have at least some common interests. So, what you're supposed to do is go through this elaborate ritual so that each party to a negotiation or dispute identifies its interests and avoids becoming "positional" while acting to come towards the other party's interests as an inducement to have them come towards yours. As I said, utter BS. In situations of actual conflict it is even worse than the Republican addiction to the notions of "Getting to Yes."

In public sector collective bargaining IBB just acts as a way to put up a charade of bargaining while the usually Democrat employer conspires with the union against the taxpayers. Where it gets really dangerous is when people who subscribe to IBB get involved in the kinds of conflict that get people killed. There are no common interests between Israel and the barbarians surrounding them. The barbarians don't want peace, they want Israel wiped off the map and its people beheaded; you can't conciliate between these people. The only interest the barbarians have is killing Israelis. The only interest the Israelis have is staying alive. Along the way you can have periods of coincident interest where one side or the other wishes to stop fighting for awhile, but when they're sufficiently healed, they have to go back to fighting because their interests are fundamentally opposed. It is the archetype of positional bargaining because those positions are all either party has. You can convince the barbarians that living in peace with the Israelis is more in their interest at a given moment than dying at the hands of the Israelis, but the moment they think they might have a chance of killing more Israelis without being killed themselves, they go right back to killing Israelis.

IBB and all the bargaining strategies that resemble it come from a world of soft, comfortable people who've never dealt with an existential threat; don't even really comprehend existential threats.
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...a great read by DAVID HOROVITZ...

http://www.timesofisrael.com/the-terrible-cost-of-thwarting-hamas/
The terrible cost of thwarting Hamas
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Just got a report that Haldor Topsoe is going ahead with a wood to gasoline project.

http://www.gastechnology.org/Solutions/Pages/Making-green-gasoline.aspx

Okay World, do you see that? 92 octane gasoline from wood!

Cut down some of those insect infected forests out west and make 92 octane green gasoline.

That that Barack!!!

YOU DIDN'T DO THAT!
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http://eng.news.kremlin.ru/news/22714

Q - Who said this, Putin or the "Chocolate King" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petro_Poroshenko ?

"Today we will consider the fundamental issues of maintaining the sovereignty and territorial integrity of this country. We all understand how many political, ethnic, legal, social, economic and other aspects this topic encompasses.

Sovereignty and territorial integrity are fundamental values, as I have already said. We are referring to the maintenance of the independence and unity of our state, to the reliable protection of our territory, our constitutional system and to the timely neutralisation of internal and external threats, of which there are quite a few in the world today."

And immediately continued

"I should make it clear from the start that, obviously, there is no direct military threat to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of this country. Primarily, the strategic balance of forces in the world guarantees this."

A- Putin
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