After The Election
If trends continue in half a week’s time there will be a president elect Romney. And then for the first time national attention will focus on what to do next. Up until now the problem on which many voters has focused has simply been: Obama or not Obama.
Whatever else he may have failed to accomplish the president succeeded in making himself the boundary of national life; in making himself the universal constraint, the question upon which all subsequent questions were contingent.
To most of those who will vote for Romney the question became how to elect anyone but Obama. This necessity forced the most unlikely combinations into the same political foxhole: libertarians, cultural conservatives, poor blacks desperate for a job, latinos tired of running from Mexico and having Mexico catch up with them. It even brought the odd radical pacifist into the mix.
But the probability is that by Wednesday Obama will be gone. And the fellowship will break with him. Yet his political ghost hover over the scene for time to come. His defeat, if it happens, will be by the margin of 52-48 or at worst 54-46. In basic terms, the Obama agenda will have only just lost; by the margins of history, a near-run thing.
Mitt Romney will inherit a nation divided and at war. At war not just with itself, but with an unacknowledged and newly resurgent foe, the radical Islamism poised to control large swathes of North Africa and the Middle East. From the Obama and predecessors before him, Wednesday will dawn on a bankrupt and debt-riddled America whose economy, founded on artificial pricing, concessions and entitlement cannot continue on that basis for much longer. It will emerge with a financial industry in a monopoly position — and gorging itself to death with that power. Wednesday will come with unions still relying on pensions that won’t be there. Phantom money that an aging population will be expecting from a younger generation that cannot or will not provide it.
All America will have when the smoke clears is a mere mortal of a president, perhaps of middling ability as historical figures go. An average politician coming upon an extraordinary time. How can he stem the tide? The probable answer is that he cannot.
Only America can if its spirit has not been mortally wounded in the years since 1968. And maybe even America collectively cannot. For there are some situations from which no escape is possible, which are truly hopeless. For reasons that God — the God of Nature, or the God of History or Kismet if you prefer — only knows, the situation may be constrained. There may be no way back and only a finite number of alternative futures realistically available to those who come upon the scene.
But since nobody knows what that will be, the only hope is that Romney, like many a bit character in the movies, can saw off the ropes that bind the half-conscious America; find the bucket of water in the corner and splash it on her face even while the heavy and ominous steps of the approaching monsters resound in the hallway outside. The difference is that unlike a movie there is no audience. We are the audience and we are in the movie too.
A few things are probably going to be true about the next scene. Providing she awakes to the bucket of water, America will spend most of the next reel on the defensive. Her injuries are too extensive to be shaken off in a moment. Even cinematic recoveries take a few minutes. And there are other characters to be freed.
So the first year of a Romney administration will be extraordinarily important, not for what he does, but what he attempts not to do. A President, contrary to popular myth, cannot do everything. He has a finite and non-renewable amount of power. Think of him as a man with a revolver holding only four bullets facing five men; or a kid with five dollars in history’s candy store. What does each choose in the next minutes?
About all that can be done is make a start. Europe is in the next castle room with her face actually in the bucket of water and bound to boot. Is she still alive? Miss Nippon has apparently lost her mind and is absently writing a haiku in blood off to the side. And down in the basement, people are setting fire to the whole castle, beginning with the exits, with Miss China selling them the firewood at a handsome profit.
In this scenario the next scene might well be a quiet one. Instead of fighting the monsters advancing up the corridor, a newly freed America could barricade the door, or jump out the window to escape into the wilderness, to recover and renew her purpose. Mayhap to meet some holy man in a cave and plot her return to the castle hoping the find everyone still alive. Or perhaps she finds a spaceship in the desert and blasts off for Mars. However the future may be it will not change on the stroke of midnight on Wednesday.
The future is cumulative. About all that one can realistically hope for from Willard Mitt Romney is that he can buy another few years of rationality for America; another chance and by so doing, not turn things around but make it possible to happen. The complete cure is beyond his power. But the ropes, man! Quickly the ropes!
So let Tuesday come. And whatever comes through that door remember who you are.
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Ugh! And I was beginning to feel good again, after Mitt’s rally last night in Ohio.
The first thing, obviously, is to stop the binding. We’ll work on cutting away the ropes, but the fact that those are no longer being strung around us and tightened will provide huge relief.
The other thing is energy. All but a few realize that our energy policy has been a disaster. (Unfortunately, those few were getting the loans and running the show.) Again, just by selling leases and working toward opening the Keystone pipeline, let alone when that energy begins to flow, it will provide a huge boost.
The prize fight analogy is apt– the champ was knocked down in 2008, more by his own flabby conditioning than anything else. When he returned to his corner, the trainer was a puffed-up, inexperienced poseur with lots of recycled ministrations passed off as shiny, new creams. No surprise, the champ continued to get clobbered. But just by getting a new trainer in there, things improve. And when the champ gets some energy in his legs, and the vapors from the quack clear out, he’ll be in better shape. Not perfect shape but better. And you always have to bet on a champ who feels revitalized.
Richard-hope you’re right about the election. Unfortunately, I think you’re very right that a President-elect Romney faces a very difficult and unstable world.
I am not too sanguine given the trends because of one painful conversation I briefly endured with someone who has had to endure the aftermath of Sandy. It is recounted at: The Liberal Brain Is Still In Denial. My conclusion is hopeful optimism that is sadly aware that we cannot deny the long term loss should we fail.
Something my Mom used to tell me about conflict. It takes two to tango. As stated at that link, it is not only liberals who are in denial. Many on the Right too are denying the likely outcome should the unthinkable ensue and the bottom drops out.
Every day, Radio Japan has a story about a US serviceman misbehaving, often the same story over again, and about Ospreys, an unsafe US aircraft, straying from agreed-upon flight paths, in Okinawa
What are they up to? The Japanese are seriously strange.
So far no haiku.
“…saw off the ropes that bind the half-conscious America; find the bucket of water in the corner and splash it on her face…”
Well said, and I fear waking poor, half-conscious America is going to be a Heraclean task. Especially when half the culture doesn’t even know it’s asleep, and has no desire to wake up. Indeed, when half the culture frankly insists on remaining asleep.
It’s going to take along time to rewind Mr. Gramsci’s march through the institutions.
This election shouldn’t be this close.
Wretchard wrote: “But the probability is that by Wednesday Obama will be gone.”
Well, I hope you’re heavily long Romney at intrade.com, because those who are willing to put skin in the game are solidly sure that you’re wrong. If you’re right, you’ll make a killin’.
A key factor will be whether Senate control remains with Reid and his company of self-serving mediocrities. The media is becoming less and less relevant, but they will continue to pursue destruction of the social fabric. If President Romney can effect some diminution of the central national government by turning power back to the States, the popularity of the effort will likely catch on, despite the stupidity of the press. A significant battle line may be drawn very early over the issue of whether California and the big cities of blue socialist corruption should be bailed out by the rest of the country and at what cost and with what caveats. A similar battle front will arise with defined benefit retirement plans and Social Security. If Romney has as much economic savvy as he seems to, then these battles will be inevitable and with a fair chance of fruitful resolution. If he can get in eight productive years with eight more for his vice president, the country might stand a chance.
America has been lucky in the sense that every other first world nation is more broken. Sandra points out the real divide in a way that polling cannot: How can there be adults in NYC or New Jersey without some kind of disaster plan? Katrina was a warning (911 was a warning)…..
Nilsson, The Point:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0te3QPwbqyc
In no way will Obambus be gone until January 20th, unless you know something we don’t. We have pardons galore still to come, and Hellfire launchings, and who knows what else, and this we laughingly call the best case.
And Hairy Reed will still be in the Senate, even if the surviving Dems have an access of good sense and name somebody else as leader, hopefully *minority* leader, otherwise – it will not be pretty.
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B @ 9: can there be adults in NYC or New Jersey without some kind of disaster plan?
It’s an old and trusting and even fatalistic in some way culture there in Gotham, unlike most other parts of the country. And they’ve gotten away with it for the most part (ahem, 9/11 excepted), but I mean just waiting for a 100 year surge that finally arrived, just as Los Angeles waits and waits for the 100 year earthquake. And yet, Los Angeles has been preparing for the quake for most of a century, in our typical desultory way, that NYC never really did, and Joisey too, and all those barrier island settlements up and down the east coast. It’s only a shock when it finally comes, it’s not that certain prophets haven’t been howling in the wilderness about it forever.
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Finally, on the presumptive immaculation of President Romney (and I hope he gets some clean underwear for the occassion), he has one thing going for him in the US and the world: fracking. Man could not *ask* for a more serendipitous prospect.
President Bubba totally lucked out and got a balanced budget unforeseen and certainly none of his doing, because at that moment the Interwebs were born and the computer revolution of the last twenty years suddenly matured, and what’s more a giant bubble inflated that we got to ride on *almost* until the Bush inauguaration. If Romney gets elected, the fracking bubble will make the Internet bubble look like, um (running out of metaphors here, ok here’s something) small beer.
i don’t see it that way (as Wretchard) at all. i see America unchained and rampant, the economy in particular exploding with growth. maybe in the third or fourth year the leftists will exert their negative effects — slightly. regarding the islamists, they are in for a first class ass kicking. call me a dreamer, but i’m not the only one
expunging obama is going to be the ultimate high. every morning i wake up and say “one day closer”. in fact i will be taking off early tuesday, so i can start celebrating early, and if that bastard wins, at least i will be drunk when the news hits
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OT, but…… I thought that the film about killing Bin Laden, “Seal Team Six”, was supposed to debut yesterday, but I have seen nothing about it. It was supposed to beef up zerO’s macho creds just before the election. What could POSSIBLY have occurred to delay this election-demolishing October Surprise???
I hope that W is correct with this post and that Mitt wins.
My big worry in that case is what will the 0bomination do in revenge with hidden landmines, appointees that cannot be gotten rid of, staff assignments ditto.,
department of defense, state lower level groundhogs undermining walls -
the list is endless. How quickly can Mitt get rid of 0bamacare, odious EPA diktats,
open up federal lands to mineral/oil/coal leases (safely, of course)?
Yes, I am paranoid about this, never let a crisis go to waist.
God, Richard! I woke this morning with a lightness of being I hadn’t felt in a long time. By the time I finished your post and comments, I had a severe headache. Gonna take Advil and go to the phone banks at Victory HQ until closing, as I’ve been doing for weeks.
Energy policy is where Romney would be inclined to act, but given his conflicted views on climate change, his actions will be limited.
As to the ties that bind us, not much hope there. Even if Romney were inclined to overturn ObamaCare, he can’t. The newest and least entrenched feral programs: prescription drugs, TSA and Department of Homeland Security should be targeted for elimination, but Romney has shown no interest in doing so.
In my lifetime, the Republican candidates for the presidency have been Dewey, Eisenhower, Eisenhower, Nixon, Goldwater, Nixon, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Reagan, Bush, Bush, Dole, Bush, Bush, McCain and Romney. Eisenhower was the last conservative actually elected to office. Since Goldwater, there hasn’t even been a conservative candidate on the ballot.
That many Republicans, including Romney, clamor for the politicians to ‘work together’ to get things done for the American people, spells the death knell of our republic.
I have been volunteering here in “battleground Virginia,” (It doesn’t seem like much of a battle, but we’ll see) which is something I haven’t done before…but I don’t want to say to myself, “you could have / should have done more…”
To me the big questions are, who will President Romney appoint to HIS cabinet?
- John Bolton as Sec State?
- Which former general will be Sec Def?
- Who will oversee the Fracking boom as Sec Interior?
- Who will he appoint to close down Dept of Education? (hopefully)
- Who has the intestinal fortitude to reign in the EPA?
- Does UN Ambassador need to be a cabinet level appointment?
Although I believe that Romney and Ryan want to rescind Obamacare, will the bureaucrats let him do that? Not to mention the other “land-mines” that the Obama-crats will leave lying around…
A President Romney in many ways resembles a Capt Sully who must manage a successful landing that enables the people on board to survive even if the airplane is mortally damaged in the process. As it was, no one was killed on that day and only one had a broken leg. The airplane was sent to a museum at Charlotte and never flew again.
But unlike the current captain, a President Romney will not accept cardboard covers over the instruments that give the bad news and concentrate on telling the passengers that the inflight snack service will be slightly delayed but will now offer a new menu option, roast goose. He will recognize that the cooked goose on the menu is the passengers unless he gets this just right. A grasp of reality is a powerful advantage, if a sobering one.
“And the fellowship will break with him.” Well, maybe. Rush says he thinks the Left will throw Obama udner the bus to keep him from dragging down their ideology with him. That is what they did with the USSR. I recall a black man, an admitted socialist, saying in a radio interview in 1992 that the USSR was not a good example of the benefits of socialism. He said we should look to Sweden. You get to the top of the hill and look down upon the promised land and discover it is a city called Hiroshima, in late August 1945. No matter, it’s over the next hill, comrades. Forward!
Um, shoot Angel Eyes because he has taken the bullets out of Tuco’s gun the night before?
Win or lose Obama will not be gone on Wednesday. He will remain in the White House until Jan 20. The next 11 weeks are when desperate people may do desperate things.
Whoever is in charge faces impossible dilemmas concerning rights and security, owing mainly to ever-advancing technology over other factors. Of course that isn’t the president; voters may choose a red or a blue colored leash, but actual policy comes from the Yale and Harvard types infesting our news/intelligence agencies.
Sadly these chaps will precipitate any crisis to watch their budgets grow off the ensuing hell they create. There is nothing we can do.
TRENTON — In an unprecedented twist to Election Day in New Jersey, registered voters displaced by Hurricane Sandy will be able to cast ballots by fax or e-mail through Tuesday, and those living temporarily outside their home county will be able to vote there rather than return home.
No, that is not the Onion. That’s official. People without power can vote via fax or email, eh? Not a chance of opening up new vistas for fraud there, right? Did someone really believe Chris Christie was a
Rrepublican? The same people who told us Schwarzenkennedy was I bet. Well, NJ was never a battleground state, so what the hey?My guess: The Machine ain’t taking any chances that displaced and pissed off Jerseyans might turn their vengeance (as suggested by Bummer) against those really responsible.
Jerseyans oughta be hopping mad about this attempt to defraud their vote. If enough get loud enough, Christie will do what that other fake, “GOP” mayor Bloomberg did– back down. In Bloomy’s case it was the NYC Marathon. In Chritie’s case, it’s his chance to blow-up what his backers will call a “Trial balloon by harebrained bureaucrats” and grandstand against them like he always does. The big fat hero.
Either Secession and re-segregation or totalitarian government are the two ends of this corridor that the US elites have created. The decayed cities and their governments of color have a multi-generational history of dysfunction. There is no chance of reform from within and these cities are long past self-sufficiency. At some point either the remaining self-sufficient states and counties secede or they will be subdued by the PCMC totalitarian state.
Sandy is very, very likely to suppress the Tri City Area vote… But their electoral votes are still a lock for the Wan.
( BTW, the rural and suburban areas are Republican… It’s in the cities that the Democrats run wild. )
I would expect voting in the projects, etc. to be stunningly light. However, outcomes are unlikely to change, since most of these gerrymanders are absolute locks for the in crowd.
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I would expect Holder to submit a toilet roll of pardons for Barry — with Corzine at the head of the swarm.
Indeed, I expect that Barry will be so far out of hand that legislation will begin to curtail the Presidential pardon.
No one will have to pen out 95 theses, but the national scandal of a rogues gallery, having stolen billions from the common man, buying their way to non-prosecution will not sit well.
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America is about to spin from a flim-flam, innumerate Gonnabee to Business Emperor.
Mitt is a spreadsheet maven of the highest caliber. His first step will be to stop any more hull boring by the Wan. (A gambit he picked up from the Stooges.)
His next move should be to begin normalization of the yield curve. To do so he’ll have to trim Federal spending — with Ryan as point man.
The bizarro zero interest rate policy is the number one reason that the economy can’t get out of first gear.
It creates an environment where investment returns vs risk are so skewed that it does not pay to take any risk at all — particularly for new wave/ high growth-high return business prospects.
This means that an entire sector of bankers is being laid off — in mid career — those that cater to small and medium sized businesses.
This shuts down job growth and the entire dynamo of the American prosperity engine.
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One should think of the American economy — particularly after 0bama — as a patient that is having an extreme adverse reaction to the economic medicine. The cure, then, consists of releasing the patient from the tender ministrations of the Left; setting it free to walk the Earth — not strapped down in a psychiatric ward.
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I fear with Obama’s loss, he will take it out on the country before he leaves.
And in his post-presidency, he will be 10x what Carter was: more outspoken, disrespectful and constantly meddling against the interests of the standing administration and country in general.
Since it has already been done before, I wonder if he will take the furniture.
Am I delusional in seeing Romney the Republican to be the 50-th Democrat?
I think W is right to be so pessimistic. America is in a serious mess, made much more serious by the fact that well over half the populations really isn’t aware of it. My bleak take is that Obama wants to dig the hole deeper and Romney wants to dig it more slowly. What we are facing is a likely crash of the world economy and I don’t think Romney, who may indeed see it too, can stop it. We are buying 1-2% growth with trillions in debt. How are we going to stop that without tanking the economy? Maybe with drill, baby drill, but it still takes time to convert government employees to frackers. I hope Romney wins because he at least has some economic skills, unlike the President who evidently thinks the public sector job growth needs to increase.
Re. # 10. Josh
“President Bubba totally lucked out and got a balanced budget unforeseen and certainly none of his doing, because at that moment the Interwebs were born and the computer revolution of the last twenty years suddenly matured, and what’s more a giant bubble inflated that we got to ride on *almost* until the Bush inauguaration.”
Essentially agree on the balanced budget, but disagree on the reasons. My reasons are: 1. Collapse of the SU caused by R.R. military build up and the following drastic reduction in defense spending giving WJC “free” money to squander.
2. Republican Congress with Gingrich at the helm curtailing Clinton’s spending proclivities (re. “the era of big gov. is over”). However, next Bush expanded Clinton’s spending activities, this time without Congress restraining influence.
By the end of Bush 2-d term the “peace” (or should I say “piece”?) dividend was gone and seeds of bubbles sawed by Clinton & Co. were allowed to grow into a full bloom.
“If Romney gets elected, the fracking bubble will make the Internet bubble look like, um (running out of metaphors here, ok here’s something) small beer.”
Could happen unless the gov. will spend faster than new wealth will be able to accumulate.
No you are not delusional grrr. You may think I am. I turned 66 in September and chose not to file for my social security benefits. Nuttier: I did so publicly. I’ll continue this as long as I’m able. The move to stop taking what has already been spent and can only be paid out with more Ponzi money taken with the barrel of a gun has to begin with someone. I cannot believe I’m the only one to have done this. But if there are more, they too need to announce it. I’ve given quite a number of reasons in a number of posts that begin with the above link. I’ve heard a number reasons why what I’m doing is nuts; “think of all the good you could do with that money” is among the foremost, and in that thought lay the seeds of hatred.
Lorenzo wrote “What we are facing is a likely crash of the world economy and I don’t think Romney, who may indeed see it too, can stop it.”
No, it’s gotta begin with us. We must lead the leaders in the right direction. Besides, Romney is a less radical version of “Progressive.” Many of you know, and most of you have good cause to see but fear saying so, the ugly incrementalist goal of that group of mild-mannered, allegedly humane charlatans.
At the top of my blog I say our “leaders” may be shameless. I also recognize that if we pile the shame high enough even they can’t hide from it because their followers will turn on them. That is surely a course of action that would resound well with the great man whose name I borrow.
Re. “At the top of my blog I say our “leaders” may be shameless. I also recognize that if we pile the shame high enough even they can’t hide from it because their followers will turn on them. That is surely a course of action that would resound well with the great man whose name I borrow.”
1. The assumption that “the followers will turn on them” because “our “leaders” may be shameless” is unprovable and most likely (re. large numbers) wrong. 2. I think you are not nuts, but it seems that you didn’t take into account the fact that we are biologically built as hunters/gatherers: we will pick up whatever is available. And the so-called “shame” is easily modifiable secondary construct. Therefore your refusal to take SS+Medicare will not prevent others from taking your place. Their presumed “shame” will be quickly modified by using a very flexible construct they call “fair share”. So my opinion is that your approach will not work.
Wretchard. The wrong version was deleted. The other one was the edited version. Sigh. That’s why the extant one still has the request explicit in it. Please do not delete that one now. And maybe edit out that request if the other one cannot be found before someone gets the idea to delete it too.
**Update**
Ok, that one awaiting moderation is the correct. PLEASE save that one and delete the second one. Thanks!
Grrr. I didn’t say all their followers would turn on them. Simply enough to worry them. Underpinning any moral code is the idea that I won’t do something if you won’t do something. Underpinning all tyrannies is the threat that someone will do something — and that is one reason why tyrants get progressively worse: fear of those closest to them. Hence, unless all the closest associates of the Progressive elites are complete morons, they can see that in the long run they will have someone to fear. And for those who understand the bigger meaning of Pascal’s wager, the better way is not trusting other men to do the right thing, but to guide one’s life in keeping with natural law as best one can. The house of cards is gonna collapse. It will take a large number of lives with it. And for those few who still believe in a higher meaning, and Higher order, there’s is that to face as well.
The bureaucracies,
The Supreme Court,
The public school system (NEA) and its spawn of the last 75 years,
The MSM with its inexhaustible torrent of bile,
The approx 47% sustained by “government” checks (welfare or AFSCME),
et. al.
Wretchard, you are too optimistic. This is but the first step on a long road with many forks. We have to get each choice right, just to make it to January 20.
1.) Am I sure there will be an election Tuesday? No, not till the polls close in Guam.
2) Am I sure that the votes will be counted accurately? No, I expect and assume massive Leftist fraud. Already we have found tampered with voting machines in several swing states, and caught Democrat officials teaching how to commit vote fraud. The legitimacy of the election is already in question, with all that implies.
3) If he loses, am I sure that Buraq Hussein Obama will leave office according to the Constitution? No.
4) Win or lose, do I expect Buraq Hussein Obama to do his best, by both legal and by unconstitutional means, to harm this country between November 7, 2012 and January 20, 2013? You bet your favorite body part of choice.
5) Do I expect civil disorder no matter who wins Tuesday? Once again, absolutely. The Left will destroy whatever it can either in celebration, or in seeking revenge. In the latter case, it might be used as an excuse for invoking emergency powers and see #3 above.
6) If the Leftist enemy comes out of the inner cities into Middle-Class country per #5, will those defending their homes be deterred from fighting back effectively by fears of being called racist? Not any more. It will be on. And we may well see another example of the unsustainability and uninhabitability of large urban areas in times of crisis.
7) If Buraq Hussein tries to hold on to power, will it work in the long run? No, and perhaps not in the short run. For some reason, I am reminded of the Battle of Kings Mountain in North Carolina during the Revolutionary War. He cannot conceive how many “Overmountain Men” there will be. And his forces will envy Custer’s odds.
The election is but one fork in the road we have to travel if we are to save the country. Any misstep means war, violence, and the loss of liberty as a consequence. And the enemy gets to put their two cents in during the process.
Hope for the best, assume the Left will do their worst and be ready for it.
And then we have to try to govern and restore a country after January 20.
Subotai Bahadur
RE: “Only America can if its spirit has not been mortally wounded in the years since 1968″. It was 1964. When LBJ was elected, and the dam broke. 1965 Sproul (sp?) Hall student take-overs – remember Mario Savio? The intensification of the Viet Nam War. The “Free Speech Movement” on campuses throughout the country.
I’m sorry, but I can hardly believe it. Nobody else saw fit to address this observation by grrr?
I am not talking about the shortages that resulted from the lack of preparedness for Sandy, where instinctive survival skills appeared. I am addressing institutionalized theft, something that came about under guise of noble intentions, but now revealed to be a major factor in the Cloward-Piven scheme aimed at the destruction of our society (a cerebral effort, but with intentions that are far more primitive).
Ours happens to be a society where hunger is hardly ever a real issue, but obesity actively is. In fact by almost any standard, our consumerism for its own sake is many instances equivalent to obesity. The debt to feed that overfed consumerism is killing those consumers. And they will take what is offered, no doubt, unless society starts to point fingers at the pigginess.
Well, PC rules say it’s not right to say things to others that leave them feeling uncomfortable. But even when what you point to is clearly gonna kill the person you say it to? That is totally insane. Thus, IMO, PC rules have got to be the first thing to go.
Now that we’ve eliminated PC rules, then here is the next move.
The higher functions tell us that our better angels need to be shouting “ENOUGH” already. Who thinks we are ONLY governed by our basic instincts? (Well, in this instance, his name is grrr.
) What happened to silence those with obviously higher cerebral functions Wrethcard? Maybe it is only PC habituation. I surely hope that is all it is.
Anyway, thank you very much grrr for your feedback. I hope I responded to you acceptably.