3 AM Telephone Calls
Jake Tapper describes the President’s steely resolve to get to the bottom of the Benghazi fiasco. Americans are dead, murdered. And someone is responsible.
In an interview that aired today, President Obama said that “if we find out that there was a big breakdown and somebody didn’t do their job” regarding the attack on the U.S. outposts in Benghazi, Libya, “then they’ll be held responsible.”
The president said that he took offense “to some suggestion that, you know, in any way we haven’t tried to make sure the American people knew as information was coming in what we believed happened.”
Was the intelligence community giving the president bad information? “Well, that’s what we’re going to find out from the investigation,” the president said.
In the meantime the administration has been succoring the bereaved. In another story the father of one of the SEALS who died in Benghazi described in “unflattering” terms the administration’s efforts to soothe this grief. Tapper recounts:
Charles Woods, the grieving father of one of the security officials killed in the terrorist attack on the U.S diplomatic outpost in Benghazi, Libya – former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods – called into conservative media outlets this week, offering some unflattering descriptions of his interactions with the president and top officials of his administration.
At the memorial service at Joint Base Andrews for his son and the three other Americans killed, Woods said that the president approached him. “Shaking hands with him was like shaking hands with a dead fish,” he said. He recalled Vice President Biden saying to him “in an extremely loud and boisterous voice,” “Did your son always have balls the size of cue balls?” He questioned the sincerity of their sympathy, and that of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
Who was it who said that a familiarity with the game of pool was the sign of a misspent youth? But words cut both ways. The elder Woods has just said in an interview to “remember this Mr. President, my son and the others died heroes. And it’s better to die the death of a hero than it is to live the life of a coward.” Who he might be referring to is unknown.
The Benghazi incident continues to be a political hot potato. “Sen. Mark Udall (D-Colo.) said that last month’s attack in Libya had been politicized, and said officials and candidates should come together like they did after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.” But the issue has now become an explicit election year talking point.
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It took, what, a week for the Dems to start plotting how to score points of 9/11?
I know their useful idiots in the “peace” movement were marching while the ruins were still smoking.
The one idea that has a lot of explanatory power here is that Washington believed there was, or might be, a U.S. asset in the attacking force or at the attacking force’s position.
“At the memorial service at Joint Base Andrews for his son and the three other Americans killed, Woods said that the president approached him. “Shaking hands with him was like shaking hands with a dead fish,” he said. He recalled Vice President Biden saying to him “in an extremely loud and boisterous voice,” “Did your son always have balls the size of cue balls?” He questioned the sincerity of their sympathy, and that of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton”.
Talk about being out-of-touch. POTUS, VPOTUS and SoS clearly have no idea how to relate to the sort of Americans who make up the armed services and police services. They must see them as kind of foul-mouthed but easily duped.
I’m only surprised Biden didn’t invite Mr. Woods to a “beer summit”. Isn’t Biden the guy who was a prep school athlete, used a medical excuse to avoid the Vietnam draft and then claimed during the 2008 campaign that he had braved very dangerous circumstances while touring Afghanistan (“I’ve been to the Gates of Hell …”) in 2007? At least Grima Wormtongue didn’t posture about being one of the Riders of Rohan.
“In an interview that aired today, President Obama said that “if we find out that there was a big breakdown and somebody didn’t do their job” regarding the attack on the U.S. outposts in Benghazi, Libya, “then they’ll be held responsible.”
We did find out there was a big breakdown. Obama didn’t do his job. In the President’s own words he, himself will be held responsible.
Except that’s not how it plays out in his narcissistic mind, is it?
One can generally determine the sincerity of a comment by its language….we are now going after folks.
Obama got busy right away looking for clues. The very next day he was personally searching Las Vegas for clues. Obama went as far as scouring Hollywood for clues. He even called up Chavez and asked if he had seen any clues laying about. Mooch selflessly offered to investigate reports of loose clues in the Costa Brava. This administration will spare no expense in their search for clues. They have even hired an outside clue expert.
When Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty called for help did the voice on the other end answer with, “Who sent you? We don’t want Nobody that Nobody sent.”
Remember that this was not a 3 AM phone call. It began in the middle of a normal workday afternoon and was watched on live video feed by dozens including Obama for hours. It was still going on when Barry retired for his beauty sleep so he would be ready to go campaigning the next day. This resonates with Obama’s conduct in considering it more important to go on The View than meet with Bibi Netanyahu about the threat from Iran.
I suggest he look in the mirror-he’ll see the coward who didn’t do his job.
He is prepared to “pull the trigger” on this hurricane. Show these Benghazi conspiracists that he’s decisive even when stymied by the “fog of rain.” If he had lowered those damn seas as he promised, this perfect storm would not have happened.
Remember just before the last election when McCain left the trail to deal with the banking crisis and then Obama came uninvited to “take charge” and appear to bring all the factions together? I guess that when you don’t have the cue balls to be decisive, you need to at least appear decisive.
Obama got busy right away looking for clues. The very next day he was personally searching Las Vegas for clues. Obama went as far as scouring Hollywood for clues.
Reminds me of someone else who vowed to “find the real killers.” That guy golfed a lot too. Mabye Kato Kaelin can help Obama out.
I’m not inclined to believe the conspiracy theories. I’m going to chalk this up to “idiots screw up because they’re idiots.” Like George Will said in a slightly different context, this is what liberalism looks like.
When it comes to military action, this is what we should expect. Liberals are basically third-rate bullies, people who kiss up and kick down but aren’t very good at the kicking part. They swagger and bluster, but if someone calls their bluff they freeze up and panic.
obama had to go to vegas so he could spring O.J. to help him with the manhunt for those responsible for the embassy attack.
The truth is simply in his arsenal. Check this out:
http://weeklystandard.com/blogs/clinton-obamas-feeling-hurt-over-jeep-ad_658105.html
The fog of the moral equivalent of war is turning into pea soup.
Crybaby Senator Mark ignores the “coming together” bit begins with the top dog. He’s the one that calls the tunes. Truces are called by generals, not corporals.
hdgreene @11
They’re hoping that enough folk will mistake their smoke and mirrors for the fog of
warkinetic action to bring them within the margin of fraud.“Look! Look! It’s the mother of all squirrels!”
Hey, it works for 46-48% of ‘likely voters’…
Reposted from last thread
What doesn’t make sense to me is that a crowd (unknown if friendly locals or part of the attacking force) pulled Stevens from the consulate. When they found that he was still breathing, they rejoiced and shouted allah akbar. Then got him to a hospital where resuscitative efforts failed and he was pronounced dead. This does not jive with the behavior of any muslim crowd that gets their hands on an American after combat takes place.
Anyone have any insights to this?
This latest meme of “Let’s all come together” is only the latest machination to mask this incident until the election is over. Obama is either a LIAR or INCOMPETENT. Neither are good for this nation. I believe it is both.
For anyone who would vote for this man after he left those men hanging out to die, you are no true American. You disgust me. The next ones left hanging out in the breeze will be you if he gets re-elected, once you have served your purpose.
JMH @ 8 – I don’t believe the conspiracy theories either. A commenter on NRO posted this, and I think it covers the situation:
In the few cryptic comments we got from the President he said that he (The White House) did NOT issue orders to “stand down”.
This was a carefully crafted phrase to cover the likely fact that no NO ORDERS WERE ISSUED AT ALL and the President went to bed. This would explain why requests for help were made three different times. Everyone was waiting for orders but the Commander In Chief voted “Present” and left the room.
It would also explain Panetta’s actions and comments. When the President refused to act there was no way the DOD was going to issue a go ahead order to the forces on standby. So Panetta sent a “Stand Down” order and had to come up with that cockamammie story about not having enough “real-time” information.
As I said on a previous thread, Obama literally ran and hid under the covers.
Think of the chill 0bama and Hildabeast have created in our Military men and women with this major cluster f@#k called Benghazi! Think of the split second between Life and Death hesitation that will now be in the minds of our SOF, 0bama is destroying our military even more every day with he twists and turns to hide his pansy a$$ from the responsibility that rest on him! Worse yet it has become so damaging that this will have to fade away no matter who wins, never to have the light of day and the Good name of our Military restored.
14. Charlie Don’t Surf
Speculation? I’ve heard that it was the plan for Stevens to be captured alive. He would be the perfect exchange for the Blind Sheik.
The Dems still like to talk about how G.W. Bush was reading a book to schoolkids and just sat there for a moment when told about the attack on the WTC, rather than run screaming from the room or ordering Wing Attack Plan R, or something.
I have never understood the point of that so-called criticism, other than they thought it funny to see him caught flat footed like that. In reality, it just shows how small their souls are.
So if we bring up Obama hearing of the attack and then going to bed, since he had a long hard day of fundraising ahead, I don’t think it’s too much. Unlike Bush’s reading incident, there is a point to pointing out what Obama did and did not do.
How about an opposite conspiracy?
Suppose Obama passed it off to his subordinates and they let this happen to embarrass him?
Maybe someone realizes Obama is, at best, incompetent, wants him to lose the election and set him up. He looked strung out in the first debate. Perhaps he’d nosed enough cocaine that evening that he does not actually remember what happened and his staff has betrayed him
The Battle of Benghazi was epic and deserves to be immortalized. Once Warner Brothers or RKO or Paramount would have used actors like Errol Flynn and Douglas Fairbanks and Cary Grant and Gary Cooper, or at least Michael Caine and Mel Gibson to tell this story. Here are some clips from better days, and remember that in this case the story is true and in the romanticized narratives of the past there was more truth than the termites in the academy are willing to admit.
Zulu Remember that Rick Rescorla who survived the Ia Drang lead people in Men of Harlech at the WTC on 9-11.
Henry V – Branagh We be but four days past St Crispin’s Day.
Nenry V- Olivier Filming was interrupted by actual aerial combat overhead.
We Were Soldiers Woods and Doherty knew that help had come to the Ia Drang.
Beau Geste
They Were Expendable “Who are you working for?”
They Died With Their Boots On In Spanish at no extra charge.
Khartoum
The Alamo
300 It is better to fight in the shade.
Perhaps it is easier to die as part of even a small force, a platoon, company or battalion, as most of these engagements were rather than alone or with one friend as darkness falls.
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I agree with JMH 8. I can’t believe that anyone would go with a planned kidnapping scheme, if only for the reason that it would complete the Jimmy Carter Trifecta ala Tehran 1979. I’m going with the proven winners on Obama; laziness, lack of ability to make a serious decision and lack of respect for those who put themselves in Harms Way for our country.
4 Dead but He Don’t Know
Dead SEALS and Obama Running,
Abandoned by their own,
This Fall I hear the drumming,
Four dead but he don’t know
Gotta get down to it,
Obama let them down,
Narrative failed long ago.
What if you knew them
And found them dead on the ground
How can he run when you know?
Dead SEALS and Obama Running,
Abandoned by their own,
This Fall I hear the drumming,
Four dead and he don’t know
Gotta get down to it,
Barack let them down,
His Story failed long ago.
What if you knew them
And found them dead on the ground
How can he run when you know?
Apologies to CSNY and their copyright. I claim fair use as parody and satire.
Joe Biden has such loose lips. Just exactly how did Biden know the extent of their son’s courage, enough to form a personal impression and offer a rave review to his parents? Was he watching it live on the video feed in the situation room perchance? Note that no one has acknowledged watching the video feed yet, but Joe Biden was impressed by something.
Evidently R2P just applies to foreigners.
No one died at Watergate, if President Nixon was impeached for lying – can we assume articles of impeachment are being drafted as we type?
Dr Mabuse, JMH et al ,
I don’t disagree that Buraq, faced with a unconscionable gun running operation gone bad, blowing up right before his very eyes, probably did run from the room to hide under the covers, leaving Panetta to concoct his fog of war story and order the rescuers to stand down. I would expect nothing more from Buraq.
But that does not mean that Steven’s wasn’t there recruiting, arming and aiding Jiahdi’s going to Syria, There are just too many sources, foreign and domestic, saying the Ambassador Stevens was doing exactly that. The Stevens operation had a clandestine feel to it. The lack of security, the facility, the lack of consulate personnel, etc.
If the State Department had needed someone in the field to round up the lost Man Pads, don’t ya think they have used a field agent, ( or several field agents) and not the f’ing ambassador? No, Stevens was there to negotiate deals with JIhadi’s in the Jiihadi stronghold,( a veritable hotbed of radical Islamists looking for violent Jihad), as he was that night with Turkish Diplomat. And these deals wanted to remain secret, because they would reflect very badly on the true intent of the Obama Administration if exposed.
How about an opposite conspiracy?
Suppose Obama passed it off to his subordinates and they let this happen to embarrass him?
I doubt they’d intentionally try to embarrass him, but I could easily see an underling saying “Screw this, I’m not getting underbussed for authoriizing something that goes south…”
I’ve seen exactly that sort of behavior in organizations where the leadership was incompetent, self-absorbed, and lazy. They pass off tough decisions onto their subordinates, take all the credit if it works out, and sacrifice the poor schmuck if it doesn’t. Doesn’t take all that long to run out of schmucks. Pretty soon, anyone with a brain has ducked out and the only people left to foist the problems on are completely clueless. Everybody else is standing around whistling to themselves and perfecting the knack of being somewhere else when the bossman comes looking for a patsy.
Unsk – I don’t believe it. And I won’t believe it until I see REAL evidence of a cloak and dagger operation going on. That means a whistleblower who heard or read the orders, who saw weapons being unloaded and handed off in Libya. So far, there’s none; just romantic adventure stories being put about by unnamed “sources” and a lot of fanciful connecting of random dots into an appealing picture. This makes me mad, because I don’t like to see sensible people deluding themselves like this. It’s humiliating to think that we can be at the mercy of stupidity and brainless cowardice; it’s much more satisfying to tell ourselves that there’s really some nefarious scheme behind it all. Even if we lose, it’s not so bad if we can tell ourselves that powers and principalities were ranged against us. But we have to live in reality; this is the leader Americans were happy to select for themselves: worthless, brainless, vain, cowardly garbage. He pisses away lives the way he pisses away trillions of dollars – they mean nothing to him. YOU mean nothing to him.
It will soon be revealed that, within minutes of the initial alert from Benghazi, the military chain of command started interdiction and rescue mobilization. As part of this effort, an armed Predator was brought on station and was prepared to fire upon the attackers using coordinates and laser guidance provided by Woods. At a showdown meeting in the White House situation room to authorize the shot, The One chickened out and, as a result, two additional brave Americans died. He then withdrew in shame and flew off to Vegas to get away from the scene of the crime.
This is how far we have fallen in our country.
Why has there not been any interviews from the people that were actually at Benghazi during the attack? There were surviors. If there have been some interviews, please let me know where they can be found.
Jennifer Griffin has stated that she has contacted sources that were on the ground about the Former Navy SEALs being denied permission to go to the consulate. But I have not seen or heard of any testimony or reports from people that were actually there.
Where are they? Why aren’t reporters, or congress, appearently interviewing people that would have actual information and not opinion and rumours? Why can’t we get actual answers to questions?
” 26. onesimus
No one died at Watergate, if President Nixon was impeached for lying – can we assume articles of impeachment are being drafted as we type?”
No.
If he’s defeated next Tuesday there’ll be no point.
If he’s re-elected, there’s no point since he’ll never be convicted in the Senate.
He’s going to walk and all we can do is grind our teeth.
So far it’s still Panetta’s bonehead comment that seems the very most out of place, coming as late as it did. I had a generally positive view of Panetta, although his only direct military experience was as an Army lieutenant 64-66, and then some modest exposure to issues as White House staff, and then as director of the CIA. He’s also 74 years old, and I’m a raving agist so can say it was perhaps a senior moment, and I wonder how many others have been going on about him.
Oh yes, we here at PJM can run the world after age 65, but all in all I’d rather the ones really in office, be somewhat younger.
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14. Charlie Don’t Surf
Speculation? I’ve heard that it was the plan for Stevens to be captured alive. He would be the perfect exchange for the Blind Sheik.
Perhaps I erred not listing al the players that had signed off on the capture. Perhaps that explains why the President went to bed – no one was supposed to die.
“There were about 200 people in the public pool when a prankster came up, blew a whistle to announce his presence, and threw a brown colored bar into the center of the pool. All noticed immediately the presence of that strange object, shrank from it, and most scrambled out of the pool, some laughing, some cursing, and some just following the pack. However, 3 percent of those saw the object floating in the center of the pool and converged on the bar instead of running from it. The six looked at the bar and back at each other – perhaps formulating a plan. Just as quickly they chose a leader amongst them and designated him with only a silent nod. The leader reached out, took the bar in hand, and holding it away from himself, walked slowly to the side of the pool, up the steps in the shallow end and toward the jokester who threw the bar in. When the leader closed the jokester, he put one hand behind the miscreant’s head and shoved the bar full into the face of the “funny” one. He then walked away and muttered the following words: ‘You can always wash your hands Sir, but no toothpaste can get that smell out of your rictus.’”
No worries – Obama has sworn to find out exactly what he himself was doing that night, no matter how long it takes him.
Dr. Mabuse @16 – Yeah that is what I think probably happened as well. Obama is notorious for being slow to make decisions in the best of times and he probably sensed danger in any decision so likely left everyone dangling. Then in the aftermath the stupid concocted demonstration over the YouTube trailer story.
If that is indeed what happened then his supporters will defend him arguing no lies were told just like they defended Clinton. There is apparently no behavior so despicable that being on the right side of a few social issues won’t wash clean for a lefty. It is full blown political now to the point that if Obama personally manned the mortar that killed those ex-Seals Harry Reid and nancy pelosi would still defend him – and so would the NY Times and the WaPo.
Disillusionist @36 – Yeah Barry ought to get together with OJ Simpson on that investigation. They both might be able to catch the bad guys given enough time
Dr Mabuse, All I can give you is more info- this time from retired Admiral James Lyons:
“We now know why Ambassador Christopher Stevens had to be in Benghazi the night of 9/11 to meet a Turkish representative, even though he feared for his safety. According to various reports, one of Stevens’ main missions in Libya was to facilitate the transfer of much of Gadhafi’s military equipment, including the deadly SA-7 – portable SAMs – to Islamists and other al Qaeda-affiliated groups fighting the Assad Regime in Syria. In an excellent article, Aaron Klein states that Stevens routinely used our Benghazi consulate (mission) to coordinate the Turkish, Saudi Arabian and Qatari governments’ support for insurgencies throughout the Middle East. Further, according to Egyptian security sources, Stevens played a “central role in recruiting Islamic jihadists to fight the Assad Regime in Syria.”
In another excellent article, Clare Lopez at RadicalIslam.org noted that there were two large warehouse-type buildings associated with our Benghazi mission. During the terrorist attack, the warehouses were probably looted. We do not know what was there and if it was being administrated by our two former Navy SEALs and the CIA operatives who were in Benghazi. Nonetheless, the equipment was going to hardline jihadis.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/28/lyonsobama-needs-come-clean-what-happened-benghazi/#ixzz2AkyRxeMm
You know Dr Mabuse – one of the reasons the left so easily can get away with such unbelievable crap is that too many on the Right demand nearly a standard of proof of ” beyond a reasonable doubt” . Too many are so afraid of being accused of jumping to conclusions without sufficient evidence in the face of clear cut skullduggery.
The world is not as civilized as an American courtroom; it is a chaotic, unruly place where often the niceties expected in begone polite journalism can never be attained. Judgement has to be often made based on what we know; not on what we would like to be able to know. This “Panetta” standard is just not realistic.
BTW – it is now being said that the Jihadi’s had taken up positions around the mission in Benghazi by 8:40- a hour and twenty minutes before the attack. So there was even less reason to not have a rescue team in place by when the attack started – 10: pm.
@14
I hate the radical Islamists, the terrorist thugs and their “governments” however not everyone in any place is a thug. Though Gaza may be the exception that proves the rule.
There are four large warehouse buildings and several smaller ones just to the north of the Annex. They are where, if that CBS video is showing all the damage, the attack on the Annex had to have come from since the damage shown is all on the sides that face those warehouses. Plus with the tall wall around it the attackers would have to have been firing from elevated positions to hit the first floor of the building shown.
39 Unsk – You’ve chosen your narrative and there’s no point arguing about it any further. To me, “various reports” with no names attached to them are worthless, as are blog reports that quickly peter out into “we don’t knows”. When they do know something, I’ll listen.
And this is the result of having a community organizer for POTUS. He has no stinking idea what he is doing. And being the godless, self-absorbed fool that he is, he doesn’t understand the cost or value of blood.
Fortunately he is losing this election and will take his place as the worst US President since before Hoover.
http://tinyurl.com/8etvxah
And his wife is a terrible cook.
16 Dr. Mabuse
Bingo. That is the only way to explain the excuse: ‘I didn’t tell anyone to not do anything.’
Furious, Peter Warner.
Dr Mabuse,
In case you haven’t noticed ABC,CBS, NBC, CNN, NPR, the New York Times, the Washington Post, and USA Today, have not printed or uttered one word about Obama’s stand down order. Here were have a treasonous act by the President and they refuse to report it. They are in full news/truth embargo mode. So in that frame of mind. do you think they would report anything about arming Al Qaeda affiliates?
The Media wants to bury this truth. Stop helping them.
Unsk – You do realize that that is C.S. Lewis’s invisible cat explanation: “We are arguing like a man who should say, ‘If there were an invisible cat in that chair, the chair would look empty; but the chair does look empty; therefore there is an invisible cat in it.’ ”
~ C.S. Lewis: “Four Loves” (1958)
The media could be not printing or publishing anything about Obama’s stand down order because he never gave one. He wasn’t trying to cover anything up, he was just trying to escape having to make a decision. He walked away from the situation with no instructions to anyone. And then he went to bed. Interesting that no one thought it proper to wake him up. Even Louis XVI was awakened from sleep to hear the news that the Parisians had taken the Bastille, but the American Emperor is not to be disturbed for any reason. The coverup is taking place now, and as one might expect, it’s Obama’s cowardice that’s being covered, not anything that happened in Benghazi.
I just thought of something in passing: if there had been a general in the room with the abilities and charisma of Napoleon, he could have seized control of the U.S. government right then, when Obama abandoned his control the moment he walked out of the room. A daring general could have arrested him and declared the presidency vacant. Lucky for Obama, there were only tame eunuchs about him. I think I’ve pretty much given up on democracy now; the best way forward is to study the military lists and identify that brilliant officer who’d be able to lead a successful coup. Wait too long and your precious democracy will eventually cough up a Hitler who’ll be much worse.
Dr Mabuse,
You are doing the same thing you accuse me of: speculating. We don’t know what orders Obama gave. But we do know that down the line where it counted, the men and women in a position to help were told to stand down.
But that is kinda besides the point. You are taking my term “stand down” and are excusing the media for not reporting that whatever Obama did or did not do, the net effect was that our military was told to stand down. And whatever Buraq or Panetta did or did not do, does not excuse the fact that Obama was ultimately and directly responsible. Walking away, if that is what he did, is essentially telling the military to stand down. The order to attack must come from the President.
But the more you argue , the deeper you get into the morass of excusing Buraq’s and the Media’s behavior. You seem to be engaging in the typical media distraction ploy of arguing over some minor mundane detail to distract attention from the real issues.
Point One: I don’t really care what Buraq or Panetta did in that room. The issue is that we know the net effect was when our troops urgently and desperately pleaded for life saving assistance that was available , our President essentially turned them down and opted to let them die. Buraq failed to protect our citizens and our troops, no matter how you slice it.
Point Two: We have numerous reports from both foreign and domestic sources, plus evidence in terms of shipments, warehouses and the like , plus the strange nature of the Benghazi mission before and after Stevens was appointed Ambassador, that our Ambassador was coordinating assistance and recruiting for radical Islamists who are our enemy. Given the enormous amount of stonewalling by this Administration and the Media, we may never know the true nature of that mission. But the preponderance of the evidence from that we do know is that Buraq Hussein committed HIGH TREASON, in giving serious aid and comfort to our enemies.
I don’t understand why Unsk & Mabuse are arguing. Both arrive at similar devastating conclusions coming from different premises.
well, i have a slightly different take on Unsk and Mabuse. yes, speculation, but it fits with the known facts, and that’s what good theories do: fit all available data the best.
where did Hillary go in this? remember it was leaked Bill and her talking to lawyers? why–she wasn’t in the room with Panetta and Biden, according to them.
here’s my take: yes, the US was gun running to the anti-Assad forces. why? because Hillary couldn’t get any other support in the WH at all about syria. she’d gotten essentially none about Libya–Obama had wanted her to do nothing, and she’s kicked and pushed until she’d created a coalition out of thin air to force him to support it. she was on her own, working with the CIA, and Obama wasn’t going to officially admit supporting this.
Ambassador Stevens and the CIA were running weapons to anti-assad groups in syria. and how would that go over with Obama’s base, the hard left that hates the CIA, hated military or extra-military ops? especially covert ops to overthrow govts in the mideast? that’s evil republican stuff.
But Hillary etc. were all amateurs, and their plan was bad. The Russians
didn’t want syria destabilized. And the obama /hillary admin were too
stupid or too naive to notice the were arming Al Qaeda anyway.
So then they got played. They were supposed to get *something* for
running the weapons to AQ. But instead, they got attacked by AQ,
ambassador killed, CIA annex found and attacked, CIA warehouses of
weapons looted. AQ got the weapons, our people got nothing and died.
(and very likely, this was with russian or iranian or both help.)
So Obama gets notified of the attack happening in relation to an
operation he would never admit, and decided too bad–hillary’s plan,
hillary’s folks, they get no official help. none. he abandoned them to
die, maybe to save himself, maybe out of cowardice, maybe to spite Hillary, and maybe above all, because his base would never support this kind of op. so let the coverups begin..
Facebook Censors Navy SEALS To Protect Obama on Benghazi Gate
This is pertinent, I think:
http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2012/10/30/bracken-did-obama-withhold-cross-border-authority/
A writer named Matt Bracken is talking about ‘Cross Border Authority’ (CBA) which fits the ‘I didn’t tell anyone to not do anything’ construction.
Best regards, Peter Warner.