The needle in the haystack
Today President Obama described the steps he was taking in order to improve the defense against terrorism. The video of his remarks is below. His thesis is simple. Intelligence analysis failed. The raw data existed to potentially support pattern recognition, but nobody recognized the pattern. President Obama announced general steps to improve the analysis.
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The second broad measure announced was an additional investment in newer and more stringent bomb detection technologies in aviation security. Taken together, both steps represent a lot of effort. If effort equalled effect, these two actions would be major initiatives. But will they be effective and what alternatives are there?
Intelligence analysis is probably the single least mechanizable aspect of the entire information analysis cycle. It relies on pattern recognition in an environment where enemy agents may have planted a variety of misdirections. When key information which may constitute the Rosetta stone for unlocking the puzzle is not available — or if the emergent threat pattern is not within the “training set” of the analysts then they’ll simply miss it despite their best efforts. Occasionally a maverick may have a flash of insight which lays the whole thing clear. But often luck is against them. Even the best analysts are only right some of the time. Much of the time intelligence agencies never see the future coming at all.
Israel failed to detect the onset of the Yom Kippur War. Although the Arabs had been planning for the attack since 1967, and “although numerous indicators outlined the Arabs intentions, it was only hours before the actual invasion that Prime Minister Mier agreed to a partial mobilization of the Israeli Defense Force.” This blunder nearly cost Israel its existence. At other times the critical pattern is concealed in a more easily recognizable one. It is inside covertext. The analyst sees and dismisses the superficial pattern and fails to penetrate into the inner one. The concealment of plans within cover stories describes how the Nazis, no slouches at intelligence and who were completely unhampered by any scruple whatsoever, signally failed to anticipate the Normandy landing sites, partly because of Allied misdirection. They were fed the half-true and consequently believed the false. In Churchill’s phrase, the landings were cloaked by a “bodyguard of lies”.
But the decentralized and complex nature of terrorist warfare creates particular challenges. It is no longer sufficient to break a central code or penetrate a unitary bureau. There is no single mind to get inside of. The modern enemy is a semi-chaotic force motivated with implacable hatred against the United States. In the face of this complex threat the more fundamental question is whether traditional bureaucratic analysis is capable of deciphering its attack patterns in the traditional ways. Eric Raymond argued that bureaucratic analytical processes could no longer understand complex environments. This lay behind not only the failure of the financial system to forsee the meltdown, but also underpinned the declining reputation of the traditional elites. Those elites were the sober dons of David Brook’s lore. But they were out of their depth. In this view, the problem with US intelligence lies not so much in its unwillingness to profile or even its proscription of it, but in its architecture.
One shakes one’s head in disbelief. Is there anything our “educated classes” can’t fuck up, any reality they won’t deny? Will Collier fails, however to ask the next question: why did they fail? The obvious and most tempting hypothesis for a libertarian student of history like myself is that the Gramscian damage caught up with them. …
I think there’s much more to it than that, though. When I look at the pattern of failures, I am reminded of something I learned from software engineering: planning fails when the complexity of the problem exceeds the capacity of the planners to reason about it. And the complexity of real-world planning problems almost never rises linearly; it tends to go up at least quadratically in the number of independent variables or problem elements.
I think the complexifying financial and political environment of the last few decades has simply outstripped the capacity of our “educated classes”, our cognitive elite, to cope with it. The “wizards” in our financial system couldn’t reason effectively about derivatives risk and oversimplified their way into meltdown; regulators failed to foresee the consequences of requiring a quota of mortgage loans to insolvent minority customers; and politico-military strategists weaned on the relative simplicity of confronting nation-state adversaries thrashed pitifully when required to game against fuzzy coalitions of state and non-state actors. …
The answer is, I think implied by three words: Adapt, decentralize, and harden. Levels of environmental complexity that defeat planning are readily handled by complex adaptive systems. A CAS doesn’t try to plan against the future; instead, the agents in it try lots of adaptive strategies and the successful ones propagate. This is true whether the CAS we’re speaking of is a human immune system, a free market, or an ecology.
Eric Raymond is very persuasive on the point. The problem is that what is required is agile networks but the bureaucrats are still building pyramids. If he’s right, then the “review” and guidelines issued by President Obama will have only a very small impact on the quality of US intelligence analysis, because if there’s anything the bureaucracy can’t stand, it is a complex adaptive system that can “try lots of adaptive strategies and [let] the successful ones propagate”. The lawyers won’t let them do it. It is anathema to the layers and layers of bureaucracy that have accreted over the years. One of the problems with US intelligence reform has been the tendency to fix intelligence failures by layering yet another process over it.
Richard Russell described the structure of US intelligence in 2004. It was a like a cake with process layered over process until it was 8 ranks deep. Writing for the Hoover Institution, Russell painted a picture of sclerotic and constipated process:
The Central Intelligence Agency is the “first among equals” in the intelligence community and deserves particularly close independent scrutiny. The agency benefits from a bureaucratic position that separates it from the pressures of policy interests to a far greater degree than its brother intelligence agencies. The CIA also uniquely benefits from its traditional privileged access to the president and his key national security lieutenants. Yet CIA’s support to the commander-in-chief over the past decade in major armed conflicts reveals a consistent pattern of shortcomings, particularly in regard to human intelligence collection. One of the starkest lessons to be gleaned from looking at past cia performance is that it has consistently failed to produce top-quality human intelligence against the greatest threats to the United States.
CIA suffers from a ponderous bureaucratic structure that makes it sluggish in response to events, impedes intellectual and analytic initiative, and diverts resources from nurturing and keeping analytic talent. The analytic side of the agency, the Directorate of Intelligence (DI), made a failed effort in 1996 to flatten the hierarchy. The well-intentioned effort to cut managerial levels in order to free up resources to devote to analytic talent was predictably suffocated by entrenched bureaucratic interests. Today, a working-level analyst is separated from the director of central intelligence (DCI) by about eight bureaucratic rungs. This is a far cry from the flat and flexible organizational charts of companies that thrive in the information technology era.
Analysis moves painstakingly slowly through the bureaucratic structure, and iconoclastic views that challenge conventional wisdom are very likely to have their edges substantially smoothed in the laborious review process. Analysts suffer considerable frustration. Their charge is to write analyses for the senior levels of the national security policymaking community. Even uncontroversial analysis suffers from pronounced dumbing-down effects as it passes up and through the chain of command. More often than not, policymakers are substantially more conversant with international issues than cia managers, who in the review act more as overpaid editors — without the technical expertise of professional editors — to make analysis more understandable for themselves rather than the far more expert consumers in the policy community.
The production of intelligence analysis takes the form of an inverted pyramid. One or a few junior analysts, for example, might draft a piece of intelligence analysis. It then passes through a chain of command loaded with GS-15 and Senior Intelligence Service (SIS) managers, who typically impose more stylistic than substantive changes. The piece of analysis then passes to a current intelligence staff stuffed with GS-15 or higher individuals, who further massage the analysis into stale and boring prose before publication in the President’s Daily Brief or the more widely disseminated Senior Executive Intelligence Brief.
The President’s Daily Brief travels with CIA briefers downtown each workday morning to be read by the president and his key national security policy advisers, including the vice president, the national security adviser, the secretaries of defense and state, and the chairman and vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. On some occasions, the DCI may lead the president’s briefing team. The direct and personal provision of intelligence to the commander-in-chief gives cia the lead for strategic intelligence in the community. The CIA briefing teams are able to learn first-hand the policy concerns and intelligence interests of key policy players. The policymakers, in turn, are able to ask questions about raw intelligence reports and multi-source analyses as well as task CIA for follow-up or new analyses.
CIA briefers return from policy community runs to Langley each morning with tasking in hand. Unfortunately for analysts, that tasking slowly and laboriously flows down the chain of command, reaching them only late in the day. In many instances, analysts may be able to write a piece of analysis in relatively short order, only to be confronted with the time-consuming and cumbersome internal bureaucratic process. The wisest and most seasoned analysts opt to wait for managers to go home for the evening before drafting an analysis in order to avoid several rungs of review by the agency managers.
It is painful to even read. Watching President Obama’s efforts it is hard to avoid to avoid the feeling that it will go the way of so many in the past. A new process will be invented. More ceremonies will be performed. Incense will be burned before the appropriate gods. The bureaucracy will try mightily to lay the egg, but in the end, despite best efforts things will not improve that much. What may actually help is giving lower levels more autonomy, letting them take risks even at the cost of making mistakes. But in an atmosphere of legal procedure where the incentives are adapted to the law enforcement model, where lawyers are king, there may little hope of that.
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The two greatest impediments to initiation CAS systems are probably also their two greatest strengths: they defy ideology of any kind, and they defy heirarchy.
Ideology on any level seeks to direct actions towards some wished for outcome in order to achieve some other, ulterior ends, which is what Rahm Emmanuel was talking about when he noted that one should “never let a good crisis go to waste.” But a CAS
system searches for any possible solution and pursues it without regard to any overarching ideology. As Al Davis became famous for saying, “Just win, baby!”
And the same thing goes for heirarchy – all the higher levels of a heirarchy have the need to stamp their imprimatur on a course of action just to prove that they are still vital to the effort, and as such a true CAS system is an affront to their existence. For an effective CAS system to be implemented, any heirarchical command structure over it must be eliminated completely. It must be completely autonomous, and every current stakeholder in the US Federal system will fight that tooth and nail.
One other thought on your post – it seems that the tragic deaths of the CIA operatives in Afghanistan were the result of a classic bit of misdirection just as you described, one in which the critical information was concealed inside some superficially true covertext. In this case, the covertext was that the operative had come directly from a meeting with Zwahiri with extremely important information for the CIA officers. This appears to have been completely true, and in their eagerness for the info they bit on this bait hard. But the vitally important information that was revealed was that the operative was actually a double agent and Zwahiri had outfitted him with a suicide belt. Learning the truth just a second too late is just as fatal as never learning it at all.
You’re basically asking mid-career bureaucrats to cut themselves helpfully out of the process. Not gonna happen.
Obama is a total newbie trying to play this game, with zero administrative experience. He has little to no chance of making any real difference at all. He’s getting played by all sides. There is only one end to this process – he will end up being blamed for whatever goes wrong, because of things he was maneuvered into saying out of his own mouth.
I move to behoove an inquisition to facilitate getting to the bottom of this, at which point I will blah blah blah blah blah. The guy is so over his head and it is so very scary that it circles fully around all the way through digusting, funny, and insane, all the way back through spooky-scary.
As I recently alluded I don’t see a point in having a list of 550,000 individuals on it, spending a year a million dollars to pare it down to 400,000 then eventually coming up with a “no-fly list” of 50,000. If you are suspected anything you should go straight onto the list. There should be alternately a grievance process. The burden is on all of the known needles and not on 24/7 haystack. If you are a jihadi and have been found out, too bad. If you are an innocent non-jihadi that got put on the list., sorry for the inconvenience. You are going to have to go down to your local consulate and make an appointment for a hearing, tough tits. Why drag the whole population through an anal scan? Maybe you still do that but eliminating the riff from the raff makes less ponderous.
On to my next petty bitch. Why should some dirt bag from Nigeria get automatic admission to the US in the first place. Disneyland does a better job of profiling and it is not a god given right to come here. Have relatives here? Good, why don’t you and you’re a$$hole relatives go meet in Yemen. I hear it is nice this time of year.
And, finally, if I can’t go to your country because it would be hazardous to my health, why in the hell would I want you and yours to come to ours? This give us your dirt bags, turds, and murderers shtick is got to go. We don’t need you, move to effing Sweden, they like murders there.
How are problems solved? By having the right people in the right places.
How do you get the right people? The traditional bureaucratic answer is by credentialing, a form of peer review in which hoops are jumped through so the HR people can assure themselves that the “Best qualified” list sent up for managerial review will not be held against the resume screener.
Who selects the HR resume screener and establishes the review and staffing process? The same people who staff HR, it is a self replicating perpetual motion machine.
These are problems that afflict every bureaucracy and they are compounded in a system of government administration because there are no countervailing forces. Even today Obama’s flood of words meant exactly nothing. No one was fired, no simple method of updating watch list reviews was announced. No clear statement was made that anyone who assists an airplane bomber will be killed and anyone who is within 500 feet of an airplane bomber or anyone who has assisted them is at risk. So what did Obama say? That he really really means it that in the future managers will be held accountable and that he had already budgeted a billion dollars for new equipment for TSA. That holds the federal managers to the same strict standard as Iran. They must be quaking as they figure out how to divert the new equipment budget into air conditioning and better video at the manager’s offices.
Readers of the Belmont Club may take it as a given that I have inserted links and quotes from Yes Minister here.
BTW, the administration thought this was a good time to announce that the ban on traveling to the United States if you are HIV positive is now lifted. That should spare Christopher Hitchens some embarrassment about his visa status the next time that he gets himself arrested.
Process is all. Isn’t that the lesson of the Arab-Israeli peace ‘process’? Peace isn’t really the goal, after all, only maintaining the process.
On a different tangent, this failure of the system that seemed at first to be such a success, is a testament to the system’s complexity. Perhaps the answer isn’t to make it continually more and more complicated, but to simplify things to their essence. After all, the would-be bomber’s father called the CIA to tell them his son was coming to get us. How hard is it really to get that actionable intelligence converted into effective action?
But maybe it’s nigh impossible once you’ve introduced enough points of interaction between the information and those who would act on it. Is it or isn’t it true that the CIA relayed the information to the State Department where it apparently disappeared into the bureaucracy?
The Israelis look boarding plane passengers directly in the eye, ask them a few pertinent questions, and trust their instincts. That is admittedly a very low-technology and non-bureaucratic way of interdicting shoe-bombers, panty-bombers, what have you. But for some reason it seems to work.
Obama’s first knee-jerk impulse is to blame the intelligence. This is no different from the incident with Robert Gates when his first knee-jerk impulse was to side with Gates’ accusations of racism and say the responding officer acted stupidly. The blame lies squarely with the Obama State Department:
We now know that the initial message had been changed to only saying that the father of a young Nigerian named Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, had contacted the embassy in Nigeria and that he was “concerned about his son that was traveling to the United States”. There apparently was no information about being “on a one-way ticket” or regarding the “radicalization” from extreme Muslims in Yemen. In addition, there was no information about the father being a prominent Nigerian business man nor any mention that he was a credible source of information.
Needles to say, this “filtered” information fell short of the normal requirements for a Visas Viper cable by not having the detailed information on the son or about the father’s background and credibility. When asked “Why was the additional information not added to the communication to the State Department?”, the answer was: “This was as much of the information we felt comfortable providing in an unclassified cable”.
OK.
Say you have a magic teletype, that will answer accurately any question you put to it. In fact, say you have 11,000 of them. You put 11,000 agents in front of them, asking questions all day long, and filing the results into a giant database. Would that end the threat of terrorism?
Denethor staring into the Palantir only drove himself mad.
Odin gave an eye to see the future, and still had to live with it.
Jack Nicholson as Colonel Nathan R. Jessep perhaps said it best: “You can’t handle the truth.”
Oh, and I was hoping “O” decided to disband the trillion dollar waste of money that is the department of homeland security. What exactly was it they were exclusively covering that wasn’t already being bungled by the FBI or 13 other agencies. Maybe one more layer of bureaucracy will do it. Maybe two. Perhaps the department of redundancy, redundancy department.
2. Nomenklatura:
Absolutely true.
The only logical answer is start a new parallel but flat agency [based on a private industry TO] staffed with new hires and volunteers from the mother ship, and then slowly phase out the CIA. Heck, they’ve been phasing themselves out for years anyway, so let the ones that are left “work” till retirement then shut it down one person at a time.
I’ve seen how recalcitrant a team of relatively young, intelligent software programmers can be about changing from conventional development methods to agile development. They tend to like it once they get used to it, but the transition can be tough. The larger and more layered the org chart, the harder it is to get agile going. Salesforce.com is the only large business I can think of offhand that uses agile in its engineering division. SEAL teams are agile within a pretty strict hierarchy. You could probably get some smaller agile teams working on the data sets together — a lot of the algorithms used in social networking software would be directly applicable — but it will only work if the various agencies agree to share the data(!). How odd that I, a knitting housewife, know the core people to hire, the software to use, the other code that would be needed, the hardware to buy, and how to find and hire the rest of the necessary crew. I even know of some decent office space that is available, courtesy of the economic downturn. Think our administration will be able to connect the dots the way I have? ::sigh::
All praise is due to Allah (swt), the compassionate, the merciful.
Is it not obvious that the triumph of Islam is inevitable?
Renounce your false religions. Embrace Islam now and live in peace in submission to the will of Almighty Allah (swt).
Your grandchildren will be Muslim.
Allahu akbar!
An additional investment in newer and more stringent bomb detection technologies in aviation security.
Oh good lord. Or, alternately, you could have had a reasonably aware ten year looking at the passenger list and asking, “Hey, why is this guy flying all the way to America with no luggage?”
Following which his embarassed STWPL parents would whisk him away, apologizing profusely for his thought-crime of questioning a person of color.
You can gin up all the whiz-bang bomb detecting machines you want, but if they are operated by people paralyzed by specious moral uncertainties and fear of retribution any time they suspect a member of the protected classes, then you might as well be scanning people with an egg beater, because ultimately it will fail just the same.
Was this the 6th, 7th time that Obama addressed the nation on the Dec 25 terrorism prevention failure under his watch?
Bottom line is that Obama has now pinned his Hopes for his presidency to the incompetence of Al-Queda. If the terrorists get lucky once, Obama can no longer blame Bush. And the buck really will stop wherever Obama happens to be keeping his head down.
As for the problems of reforming a bureaucracy — that is a tough one! Even Chairman Mao got frustrated with his cadres and unleashed the Cultural Revolution. Which certainly shook up the bureaucracy, but can’t be judged to have been a success.
All praise is due to Allah (swt), the compassionate, the merciful.
Yes sir! As the Ay-rabs like to say, “Oscar Meyer Bacon!”
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/01/spies-like-us-top-intel-officer-says-spooks-should-act-like-journos/
Danger Room has also an interesting analyse
You cannot mandate competency or require brilliance. You have to establish the capability and conditions for it to occur – and get the hell out of the way. The two different approaches used in government is check and double check, used by the military, and professional respect, used by some civilian elements of government. Both have their advantages and disadvantages, but the fact is that neither will work exclusive of the other. Putting 10,000 monkeys to work with constant close supervision or 10 Phds with no oversight at all will both ensure failure.
Given the ridiculous mythologies running open loop in the Obama Admin, it does not matter which approach or which percentage of each approach is used. Failure is not an option; it is already assured.
Does anyone else take the long view that these spats of terrorism are more likely timed for political purposes and being orchestrated by someone in the middle east hierarchy other than cave dwellers? Could not a fairly dense middle eastern person deduce that Iraq was being softened up over the course of three, you could argue 5 presidencies going all the way back to Carter? Was Bush II’s election the absolute cementing of the decision to forceable remove Saddam and put in a plan for succession to the exclusion of Iran, Russia, anyone who might have wanted that particular piece of oil laden real estate?
Was 9-11 a baiting of the USA into the war whose place and time was chosen by the enemy (by carefully crafting the story line that the nexus of opposition lie in Afghanistan)? They (ME power centers) pre-empted our planned pre-emption with 9-11. It worked perfectly, Bush’s determination to stick to the original plan for his presidency (finishing the Iraq succession plan) mortally wounded him politically. To his credit he didn’t let the enemy dictate the terms of his presidency. He stuck to the plan.
Now we see the next act in the grand war opened with the go signal given to Hasan to show our military what’s in store for them. Our main CIA base is annihilated. Then the crotch bomber fails (most likely by design, his being set up to fail) but delicious how it has the west running circles to respond. What a ingeniously morale boosting act for the enemy. Not only have we forced the infidel to take off his shoes to defer to Allah every time he travels by his airplane, he now must allow his women to be groped at and poked about their privates before flying.
They are taking us apart, piece by piece. We are being jabbed and threatened but by who this go round and why? I look no further than Tehran. Everyone should have a pretty good idea who they are in league with. I have a pretty good idea how far up the tree it goes. It’s pretty painful watching our democracy go down the crapper but it’s hard to see how a civilian government will be able to overcome the kind of hurt these assassins can deliver. And other than killing without pause of military personnel at Ft. Hood and at the Khost outpost, they are really only showing our government what’s in store if the protests don’t stop and the uranium don’t flow. At some point we will put up our hands and then Israel perhaps can have a crack at em. We have taken a stick and poked it in a catacomb of madly buzzing hornets.
He’s been President less than a year and he already looks less competent than Carter.
Bureaucracy is the natural enemy of art.
Especially in the art of war.
In the normative art world, a bureaucracy might sometimes produce great art, but not many examples abound… I think we all know that mediocrity is the norm. For the examples of success, mastering the bureaucratic system is something like a circus’ lion tamer’s act.
It is the aggressor that names the site, tempo and ethical level of battle. The trick is to fight at their level without descending to it. The question is: how can our government -which is configured to structure accountability- fight an enemy who is configured as a complex adaptive system (ironically of the same category as the free marketplace)? Suggestions of flattening hierarchies and proliferating combative agents (analysts+executive actors) seem to be easier said than done.
I remember the upshot of Reagan’s Iran-Contra episode. Wasn’t the central problem the accountability of rogue agents such as Ollie North? The conclusion seemed to be a universal acceptance that independent unaccountable agents were a subversion of our democratic processes. Is there a way to square this circle?
John Locke knew about intelligence: “Hell is truth seen too late.”
The trick is to fight at their level without descending to it. The question is: how can our government -which is configured to structure accountability- fight an enemy who is configured as a complex adaptive system (ironically of the same category as the free marketplace)? Suggestions of flattening hierarchies and proliferating combative agents (analysts+executive actors) seem to be easier said than done.
I remember the upshot of Reagan’s Iran-Contra episode. Wasn’t the central problem the accountability of rogue agents such as Ollie North? The conclusion seemed to be a universal acceptance that independent unaccountable agents were a subversion of our democratic processes. Is there a way to square this circle?
Philip Bobbit’s answer to the question was to treat counterterrorism as a kind of law enforcement operation — and then change the laws so that it could be fought efficiently and licitly. Although I disagree with the totality of his approach he is correct in saying that a split level approach will never work. It will only create hypocrisy. That occurs when we are unwilling to publicly take responsibility for our actions. The desire to have it both ways — to appear benign yet prosecute our enemies; to seem liberal and yet be stern in practice — is encapsulated in that expostulation: “do what you have to do, son. Just don’t let me catch you doing it.”
On a strategic level it is embodied in a refusal to declare war. Whether conflict is to be prosecuted as strictly law enforcement or belligerence, it must begin with naming an enemy and declaring your intentions against him. This costs, and nobody is willing to pay the cost. That brings us to the central issue.
The two problems with “flattening” the hierarchies are that they require accepting command responsibility and the destruction of make-work jobs. Not coincidentally, these are the two shibboleths of modern politics. Responsibility means giving your subordinates freedom of action and taking responsibility for supervising them. Mistakes will be made and punishments where appropriate will be handed out — up and down the line. Moreover, people will be fired, must be fired, for hierarchies to flatten.
Not until the West is facing an existential challenge will these two great bureaucratic idols be shattered. You will know when President Obama means business when useless departments are abolished, ridiculous regulations are rescinded and jail sentences are handed out to senior people. This will prove, better than any news conference or tour of talk shows, that both empowerment and accountability have ridden back into town.
For as long as nobody loses his job, nobody goes to jail, no dogs are let loose, and no Federal buildings are declared vacant then nobody really gives a shit except anything except business as usual.
LOL, LoTM! I think Christopher Hitchens would be quite annoyed to find that he had been confused with Andrew Sullivan!!!
Watching the video, I found myself watching the president’s pupils. Back and forth, back and forth… I first held up my left index finger where I saw him looking to the left, then my right index finger where I saw his eyes focus when he looked to the right. He constantly switched between the two points, which I believe were the two teleprompters out of the picture. His face did not always turn towards the focus points, but his eyes always did. I thought I might have tomove my fingers occasionally, but no! his eyes seemed if they were looking out of the screen at my fingers!
So, for my liberal friends, you can play along by using your thumbs up for this experiment, giving the president a virtual thumbs up during the video clip. For my conservative friends, you may wish to repeat this experiment with a different pair of digits.
“The bureaucracy will try mightily to lay the egg….”
Say rather that the bureaucracy will endeavor to pass a cantaloupe and it will be too painful and hence simply remain wedged and backing up everything behind it.
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Inexcusably sloppy on my part. Thank you
Fixed on my blog.
/// Bloody Irish
I saw the same article by Eric S. Raymond, Wretchard.
I don’t think a thing will change until we lose several cities, and I think likely four cities. It will take an existential challenge to change things, and what we are really talking about is …
REMOVING OUR ELITES. ALL OF THEM.
That is what it will take. Pushing responsibility and action down to the lowest level. If you don’t like who you are flying with, you kick them off the plane. If you feel the need to do a pat down, you and your fellow passengers do it, and kick the guy or gal off the plane if you they don’t comply. This is pushing power down to the people level, without ANY hierarchy or government whatsoever. No comebacks either, no one gets sued or anything. Because in large part, the government does not exist.
Most of the West is in a race, to centralize government control over every aspect of personal life, down to CCTV in British homes to supervise parenting and healthy food preparation, and jail time for putting the wrong items in wheelie bins, as the government itself collapses as it runs out of money and cannot stop terrorism or ethnically-religiously motivated crime.
Government is collapsing just as it tries to extend control over EVERYTHING. From “Green” policies to “anti-racism” and other stupidities.
We have a poster calling for us to all convert to Islam, or presumably we will be killed. The likelihood is high that more attacks will succeed, and that will only harden attitudes. As the government shows itself more inept and stupid, and calls Islam “a religion of peace” etc. no one believes anything other than the opposite, and draws the appropriate conclusions.
Ultimately, the form of Government will have to change, and for it to change the elites must all go. All of them. But that won’t be enough. Power must be pushed down to ordinary people, who must be prepared to use it, and to wield it, doing the best they can.
One of the ironies of the technological age is that while technology appeared to make us “more safe” by a Cold War nuclear standoff, it has in the post-Cold War era made us far less safe by allowing otherwise unthreatening groups with severe divisions and dysfunctions to attack the West and America with impunity, including nuclear weapons, at least for the first few cities.
Which means that ordinary people now have to make decisions on if they will live or die, based on what they do. Including things they can’t avoid. You can decline to travel to Pakistan, but Pakistan can travel to YOU. As I’ve said before, in that environment where ordinary people must make potential life-death, kill-or-not, decisions against a totally foreign enemy, the idea of a notional state dies, and the ethno-state takes its place.
Received a Tweet saying that Schumer and Franks are pushing for Universal Voter Registration. Combine that with any form of amnesty and Tarp slush fund walking around money for Acorn and we could have a game changer. http://tinyurl.com/ybrpuk8
Even a few brave Federal Judges and State Judges and AGs could deliver hammer blows to this administration.
Whiskey: I don’t think a thing will change until we lose several cities, and I think likely four cities.
We lost three planes, two buildings, one side of the Pentagon, and 2,973 Americans. It was billed as an “existential” threat to the US. It resulting in regime change in Afghanistan and Iraq, permanent warfare against Islamists, the creation of a Department of Homeland Security, a Patriot Act, and a whole slew of other changes. If we lose one (1) city even after all the measures put in place post-911, especially if it occurs well into Obama’s watch so Bush cannot be plausibly blamed, then the measures we need to win will be authorized, even by Obumbler.
What we need is for someone in authority to say, “Yes profiling is racist, but so what?”
The alternative would be the (admittedly enjoyable) spectacle of seeing Obumbler impeached by his own party to avoid a total debacle in the election.
peterike at #13 has it right, but if I may I’d like to take it farther.
You are not going to have all the information that you can dream of ever receiving, every time the enemy does something. In the case of the Undie-Bomber, we had everything but the detailed operations order for the mission from Al Quada. And we left the canine walking bow-legged.
More typically, the information we will receive, if we receive it, will be less than specific, less than certain, and will be buried in a mass of other data that may or may not be pertinent.
Let us say that there are indications that Al Quada may or may not have acquired a nuclear device from a) Iran, b) North Korea, c) Pakistan, or d) one that has been floating around loose since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Further, they may or may not have possession of either an aircraft that can carry the device or have it aboard a ship heading to a US port, specific port unknown. The analysts put that much together. They pass it up the Intel chain. Let us assume that in the bottom 3 of the 8 bureaucratic rungs between the analysts and DCI; there are actually people with both experience in the field [in both senses] and for whom defending the country has priority over departmental politics. That leaves 5 levels in the bureaucracy which a) does not want to take responsibility for anything critical that they can be blamed for, and b) knows that the information, such as it is, is going to require a definite decision by the National Command Authority that cannot be kept secret; so that he will ride the heat for it. And that he, above all things, avoids riding the heat for anything. So we have 5 levels who each either kill the report, or send it back to be re-checked, and re-re-checked. If it does make it to DCI, he has to deal with the political brain trust who are terrified more of the political repercussions if he takes action [the choice of which action is itself not a simple decision] and the threat is not real, than the possibility of losing an American city, for which he can try to find scapegoats.
When the analysts figure it out, they do not know if the weapon is en-route yet or not. If it is coming across the Pacific, it will be well under two weeks before it reaches the West Coast. Could be a bit longer if it is coming from the Middle East to the US East Coast. Leaving aside the conundrum of exactly what the NCA would decide to do; how long will it take to get the information to DCI, how long will it take for DCI to get the information to the National Command Authority, and how long will it take the National Command Authority to make a decision [assuming that it is not rejected out of hand]? Shall we ask General MacChrystal?
Any bets that the decision cycle is going to be less than the time it takes for a weapon to reach us?
Despite the response in his speech that the President has just ordered the intelligence agencies to do the job that they should have been doing all along [with no credible consequences if they don't]; we are depending on blind luck and Al Quada incompetence as our primary defense for this country.
This is not going to end well.
OT: HABU
Y’all are not alone in your beliefs in what will be necessary to survive. But the political battlefield has not yet been shaped enough to allow it to be a serious subject of public discussion. It may yet take the reshaping of the landscape of our country, before we face reality.
Subotai Bahadur.
Eric Raymond sez, per W:
The answer is, I think implied by three words: Adapt, decentralize, and harden.
No doubt. However, this is an inconceivable approach to the current Administration (if one is to judge, as we always should, by their actions, rather than their words).
Adapt
Decentralize
Harden
Overall grade: D-
So, in short, it is almost inconceivable that we will see our nation move in the direction described by Mr. Raymond – not because it is a bad idea, but because the current leadership of our nation simply cannot conceive of such an idea. And even if they could, they would have no incentive to implement policies that are so diametrically opposed to their own interests and ambitions.
You might as well ask a divorce lawyer to help you save your marriage.
L3
REMOVING OUR ELITES. ALL OF THEM.
Exactly how do you propose doing this? Bombing every college and university in the United States? Blowing up every television station, movie studio, and radio station in the United States? While we’re at it, do you propose killing off every corporate CEO? Every elected politician? Every washed up rock star? Where does it stop?
Hell, there was once a group of revolutionaries who saw the decadence of their nation’s elites as the main problem facing their society. So, back in the late 1970’s, they created a program of killing off their nation’s elites. They also relentlessly killed off racial minorities in their society who were seen as oppressors against the majority. Who were these people? The Khmer Rouge. Cambodia is still recovering from their terror.
Excuse me, but I not only fail to see a White Anglo-Saxon version of the Khmer Rouge as an acceptable solution to the problems of the twenty-first century, but I also regard anything remotely like the Khmer Rouge to be an absolute descent into barbarism.
And by the way, for all I care that so-called “Reza” character can go straight to Hell with seventy-two transvestite she-male hookers who look just like himself.
#12 Reza,
OK, Buddy Larsen, you can stop goofing around now. The joke’s not funny anymore. Come out and start notating your usual brilliant points…
Alexis: Re: Removing elites. I dont think that is being so much suggested as predicted, should things hit the fan big time. And heaven forbid it does, it will be barbaric and yes excessive. All bloody revolutions are like that anymore. It really is not a direction anyone here wants to go.
Speaking of going, Big Sis has to go, if for no other reason from her terminal cluelessness reflected in “The system worked”.
OK, Buddy Larsen, you can stop goofing around now.
I’m thinking Reza and Yes We Did are the same troll (or maybe Brother Buddy is behind both).
One of the responses to this failure to respond to data is to demand access to more data. This is foolish, the larger the net you fish with the easier, not harder, anonymity becomes.
Alexis – Removing the elites does not have to equate to death by summary execution. It also can be that we make them irrelevant. Start electing citizen servants again. No more life long appointments to the gov’t gravy train. Actually the chances are that when things get rolling it is they who shall start the rough stuff. See The Won’s statement about a civilian force. Then all bets are off.
“All praise is due to Allah (swt), the compassionate, the merciful.
Is it not obvious that the triumph of Islam is inevitable?
Renounce your false religions. Embrace Islam now and live in peace in submission to the will of Almighty Allah (swt).
Your grandchildren will be Muslim.
Allahu akbar!”
No, it isn’t obvious at all. I don’t have any children, but my sister’s grandchildren will be whatever they choose to be. And your grandchildren, should you have any, will be smoke and ash blowing in the wind.
The followers of the paedophile, rapist and warlord Muhammad (hellfire and eternal damnation be upon him) are not going to win. Freedom is.
So, Reza, I’m guessing your attachment to the Mohammedan way is connected to the full range of sexual expression available to the Muslim male: ungulates and young humans of either gender, whatever…
There are plenty of things that don’t get talked about in polite company, anyways, not around here. Well, sex practices in Arab countries probably persist from many centuries before the time of Mohammed, but c’mon guy! The Ayutollah Khomeini reportedly reminded his Persian followers that while the Prophet married his wife Aisha when she was age six, he waited until she was 9 years old to consummate the marriage.
Admirable self-control, sez I.
So – according to Khomeini, and a lot of other Islamic studs – that’s the age a modern Muslim male can proceed with satisfying his lusts with a young girl.
I suggest other readers look up the practice of “thighing” (mufakhadzhah مفاخذة) that is so popular in Arab countries.
… or howz’bout this?
Here’s a Youtube video of an Islamic woman denouncing the practice. I am NOT making this up.
Here’s some more interesting reading about how islamic clergy treat children in their care, particularly in the thousands of Madrassas where they exercise unquestioned authority.
We salute you, you randy Muslim fellas.
Hey, Reza. Keep up the good work. Ya’ll will probably bring us around to your point of view sooner or later.
We are talking about a major mindshift here…ain’t going to happen. Period. End of report.
When you have a cultural mindset of protesting America and all that she stands for (and against), it may seem like merely the change of one little letter to morph into protecting America and all that she stands for (and against).
However, if your lifelong immediate reaction, your lifelong kneejerk reflex… is to protest America’s actions and protect the “victims” of her “oppression”…and in furtherance of your protest mentality, you have built a pathological jungle gym, with more and more bars to “pre-cage” her ability to defend herself, while you and your fellow protestors swing from bar to bar inside the contraption, finding another perch from which to launch yet another invective…it is unreasonable and Pollyannish to suggest you will stop swinging and stop screeching and stop hurling feces at her… just because you have been named playground monitor.
We cannot, we will not adapt…because we first must decide who the enemy is….then decide how to address the theater of operations upon which they choose to battle us.
As long as the protest culture owns the forums where we adopt our cultural mores (big journalism, academia, hollywood/entertainment), the “enemy” that will be painted time after time after time…will be…us.
The protest culture sees EVERYONE that raises a fist to America…as some form of fellow protestor, enraged at our “oppression” and they will seek to find “root causes”…and their instinct will be to “protect the protestor” and “cage” the oppressor.
Fellow “protestors”…and fellow leaders of “revolutions” will be exalted,… (Che, Fidel, Mao) no matter that they are in reality, pathological mass murderers…as long as the death march forms portside. Fealty to the protest culture is paramount. And the cultists shall have no other icon before them.
The cognitive dissonance occurs when the new playground monitor must give the appearance of prosecuting against the “victim” protestors and on behalf of the “oppressor” America. It doesn’t feel right.
So, “justice” for the “victim oppressed” is meted out…in halves.
There is no vigor in it, there is no purposefulness behind it. It’s timid, weak, lame, half-hearted.
You cannot convince Jeremiah Wright, Frank Marshall Davis, Michael Pfleger, Mike Klonsky, Carl Davidson, Rashid Khalidi, Edward Said, Ali Abuminah, William Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, and all the ghosts of Alinsky past…that they have been fighting the wrong “enemy” all this time.
If you “have not been proud” of this country for over four decades, if the people in it, in your worldview, are “mean” and “bitter clingers”…
…just who are you going to be protecting…and against whom are you going to be protesting?
We are led by a protest culture…and YOU…are the enemy.
Adapt to that.
What I heard from Obama and team today is that this is mainly a breakdown in airport security procedures (the “war” was just a focus-grouped phrase thrown in without meaning by the teleprompter).
You could lock down airline security to the ultimate and it would still not solve the problem at its base. Ft Hood and the CIA FOB murders proved that aircraft are just one target. How many Londons, Madrids, Balis, Beslans, and other targets lay exposed and vulnerable like a lame buffalo?
Obama’s is a siege mentality. It is Byzantium. He has already admitted defeat.
How can he fight for a civilization that he is not really part of, how can he defend what he cannot love, believe in or cherish?
We must wage war in their homelands. Bush was quite right.
What they are saying they will protect their “Class” and the rest of us be damned.
It is a most shameful thing. One hopes the country stridently rejects it.
Get rid of the elites? Easy. Defund them. Our current elites, at least in the political and institutional spheres that rely of politics, are almost wholly reliant on the public purse.
A federal budget that stop funding all the various NGO’s, “Studies”, “think tanks”, “institutes”, etc., coupled with a complete reform of non-profit laws would have these people earning an honest living inside of 4 years.
It would be an act of charity.
cfbleachers#40
The phenomenon you describe is real. It is the inevitable result of cultural marxism, the division of every individual and group into oppressors and their apologists on the one hand and the oppressed and their champions on the other. It is the dominant meme that informs the bulk of the people in the education industry, the infotainment industry, and the Democrat party.
Evidence for the scenario you describe exists everywhere, but the most glaring example is how WWII is taught now in public schools. Today’s little Jared or Courtney is NOT taught that the Soviets were bad, or that they invaded Poland along with the Nazis. They are taught that the Soviets “fought and fought against the Germans” (verbatim from a local high school syllabus) with no mention of being an aggressor nation in 1939. Why? Because no fellow leftist can be cast in a negative light, no matter how evil, and all are “protest brethren”, as you point out.
And the war in the Pacific is hardly mentioned, except maybe to tell the little darlings that America was bad to use nukes. No mention of Pearl Harbor, Bataan Death March, rape of Nanking, nothing. Why?
Because in any conflict between “people of color” and whites, the whites MUST be portrayed as the evil and the ones in the wrong. When the facts on the ground show otherwise, cognitive dissonance in the leftist “mind” occurs, and the preferred resolution of that dissonance is to either not deal with it at all (to allow the narrative about whites always being evil to remain intact) or to cherry-pick some small subset of facts which make America look bad (also to preserve the narrative).
Wretchard –
Intelligence analysis is probably the single least mechanizable aspect of the entire information analysis cycle. It relies on pattern recognition in an environment where enemy agents may have planted a variety of misdirections.\
In 2009, we are told by CNN that “”That search did not come back positive,” said one official, who called it a quick search without using multiple variants of spelling.”
What utter nonsense, since the intel community has been talking about Arab name variants since 2001.
To the general public: how many times have you found, when searching for something on a net search engine, that changing a consonant or vowel in the search terms will yield what you seek?
But the personnel charged with national security just aren’t bright enough to adapt. We are screwed.
The only way the intel community will get around Obama is to covertly undermine him to the point that he is marginalized or leaves office, and in the process make clear to both internal and domestic enemies of the nation that they mean business. They cannot improve themselves by following his “leadership” and those who actually run Obama will politicize the issue for the sole reason of dismantling the current power structure in order to install their own. The Democrat establishment elites, who comprise the greater part of the intel communities hierarchies, still do not seem to fathom just what Obama and his crew are up too. One would think that the Ft. Hood business would be a real motivator, but from the outside looking in, this appears not to be the case. If anything shows the extent that politics trump security with Obma and his media minions this incident is it.
Certainly it is completely bogus to suggest that what Bush left behind is the issue, for we had little domestic attacks under his watch.
This is a golden moment for them to do the nation a great service. One hopes that for once their “class interests” and that of the the nation can serendipitously align, if only briefly.
“We have met the enemy and he is us” – Pogo.
Geez, we’ve only been reforming the intelligence community since yesterday and already I want to give up. I guess it is like mowing the lawn, something you do every two weeks. Only now it’s winter (Northern Hemisphere!) and it is more like shoveling snow after a big sh!t storm.
Is it true we are back at war with AQ? What’d they do now, tick President Obama off or something? And what do we call this new war? The Global War on Man Caused Disaster? War bin War on Terror? George Bush’s fault? Yes, I have a lot of questions.
One thing about President Obama: He sure sounds good. Ain’t it nice to have a President who sounds good?
Mongoose #42
“Get rid of the elites? Easy. Defund them. Our current elites, at least in the political and institutional spheres that rely of politics, are almost wholly reliant on the public purse.
A federal budget that stops funding all the various NGO’s, “Studies”, “think tanks”, “institutes”, etc., coupled with a complete reform of non-profit laws would have these people earning an honest living inside of 4 years.”
The difficulty comes in finding people with the resolve and the dedication towards retribution against the leech class who will carry that out in what will be a media onslaught the likes of which has never been seen before.
People who worship at the altar of perfect income stream security guaranteed by an agent (union, government, tenure, etc.) outside of themselves will howl when the word “defund” gets used. They will say the person speaking that word really means “starve”. They will do whatever it takes to draw people’s attention away from the fact that when Mongoose says defund, he don’t mean starve, he means “just do something else”. It will take a very strong, articulate leader or set of leaders with thick skins to counter this barrage. I’m not aware of a politician who is that capable.
For all that was good about him W couldn’t accomplish this. Nor could his father. You need some one with Reagan’s gift of gab and Truman’s philosophical bluntness, someone who will stand and not be bothered to be called an evil man/woman who wants to starve every public sector and union worker and teacher to death along with their families, to accomplish what needs to be done.
Any suggestions for the role, Mongoose?
That’s not me, guys n gals. I haven’t been around since befo the holidays –this is the first thread i’ve read in weeks –and what do i find but i’ve done gone jihadi, and almost worse, an identity spoofster! No no no, puhlease! This site keeps off & on banning me handle (s’why i ofttimes disappear, it gets tiresome) and when it do i make obvious adjustments (luddy barsen) but try to be clear it’s still me. To be Reza or the other would be a whole different matter –a full spoof. I don’t do dat shape-shifting, tho i can see why some might do it occasionally to enliven a lagging thread, i’m pretty dogmatic about not doing it –i have a hard enough time as is being just the one person. now i gonna try to post this as me but i may have to default to transposed caps, i’m ’bout to find out.
***hey, got thru –transposed didn’t work either, but Mongo did! ok, back to reading, Ajax is too tuff for me –
No mo uri: And the war in the Pacific is hardly mentioned, except maybe to tell the little darlings that America was bad to use nukes. No mention of Pearl Harbor, Bataan Death March, rape of Nanking, nothing. Why? Because in any conflict between “people of color” and whites, the whites MUST be portrayed as the evil and the ones in the wrong.
I’m an American (hyphenated-Americans are only half-American) but if the left insists on hyphenating me, I’m an Asian-American, because my parents came from the Philippines. Asian-Americans don’t “count” as a minority here because we refuse to accept victimhood. We don’t want to live on the Liberal Plantation. Compare the percentage of Asian-Americans who work at Microsoft and Google to their general population in Redmond and the Bay respectively. Asian-Americans bust their ass off working here, bring their whole families over, who in turn bust their ass, live tightly together in one house, save money, pay taxes, and vote. And since we don’t instinctively vote as a bloc for the Dems, we don’t qualify as “non-white”.
Teresita, re Asians, and not to twist off topic, but i wonder if a single soul in this administration had the slightest thought about how Obama’s big climate plan might look to the Chinese, who have 40 cars per thousand citizens vs USA’s 750/1000: “we’ve got ours, now let’s quit before you can get yours.”
Mongo, that’s why the Chinese had to stop pretending to be green and squash Copenhagen…the West was too close to actually following through with this nonsense. But inertia means the US will go steaming along, business as usual. Kneecap & Tax. Good thing for Obama he’s got so many friends in Russia, Venezuela, Iran, Palestine and Yemen; somewhere to land after the country is gone.
hdgreene: One thing about President Obama: He sure sounds good. Ain’t it nice to have a President who sounds good?
That reminds me of a scene from Godfather III, with all the nation’s Dons assembled. Don Michael Corleone has just handed each one of them a check for ten million dollars. Then he says:
You all know Joey Zasa. He is, I admit, an important man. His picture is on the cover of the New York Times magazine. He gets the Esquire Magazine award for the best-dressed gangster. The newspapers praise him because he hires Blacks, which shows he has a good heart. He is famous. Who knows? Maybe one day he’ll make all of you popular.
Russia Iran China signed an agreement for a pipeline that will give them the control of gaz of the asian republics
The inauguration of the Dauletabad-Sarakhs-Khangiran pipeline on Wednesday connecting Iran’s northern Caspian region with Turkmenistan’s vast gas field may go unnoticed amid the Western media cacophony that it is “apocalypse now” for the Islamic regime in Tehran.
The event sends strong messages for regional security. Within the space of three weeks, Turkmenistan has committed its entire gas exports to China, Russia and Iran. It has no urgent need of the pipelines that the United States and the European Union have been advancing. Are we hearing the faint notes of a Russia-China-Iran symphony?
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/LA08Ag01.html
So, that means, that our western policy against Iran is peanuts, Now they’ll have the possibility to carry on their “booffon operas” without fearing embargos.
Also this explains why China is advancing her pawns with bases in Indan ocean until Yemen and Ormuz detroit
It is urgent that civil nuclear reactors become western countries main energy supply
By the way, I heard the other day what Janet Napolitano’s claim to fame is.
She was Anita Hill’s lawyer (as in the accusations against Justice Thomas).
So her focus is on protecting the supposedly oppressed against the powerful. Just what you want when you are going after poor little lone Jihadists faced with the might of the Federal Government.
This is like making Ralph Nader the head of GM. Oh, wait, he more or less already did that….
lets make it a rule that Muslim’s only fly with other muslim’s and democrats must fly with muslim’s, that’ll get their attention!
“What may actually help is giving lower levels more autonomy, letting them take risks even at the cost of making mistakes”
Not gonna happen, until a disaster forces it to. If the subordinates are competent, they’ll probably be successful 8 of 10 times in trying something new, but the two times they aren’t will overshadow the other eight.
On the subject of our “elites,” the protest culture, etc., I was just re-reading Tom Wolfe’s wonderful essay “In the Land of the Rococo Marxists.” He points out what is perhaps the emotional motivator of the protest culture, which is the never ending need for “intellectuals” to be in a state of indignation.
As he puts it: Indignation about the powers that be and the bourgeois fools who did their bidding — that was all you needed. Bango! You were an intellectual.
He then hilariously refers to the “Everest of Indignation” our betters have crafted for themselves, one shovel full after another. But best of all is a quote he pulls from Marshall McLuhan (who, counter to his media image, was actually a devout Catholic).
McLuhan wrote: Moral indignation is a technique used to endow the idiot with dignity.
How perfect a description of all the Lefty bed-wetters. And that’s why it doesn’t matter how many bodies are tossed on the pyre of their indignation, because it’s a flame that nothing can put out. The only way that nuking New York will change the elites is that it will kill a whole lot of them and reduce their numbers. Their brethren in Chicago, Boston, LA etc. will be shocked momentarily, as they were after 9/11, express some bit of anger — “how DARE they evaporate my favorite restaurant!” — and then go right back to indulging their outrage about how if it weren’t for all the Sarah Palins and George Bushes and Joe the Plumbers and other detestable white American rednecks, the attack would never have happened.
Watching President Obama’s efforts it is hard to avoid the feeling that it will go the way of so many in the past….
How come I have the image of the last scene from “Raiders of the Lost Arc” in mind?
Rep. Peter Goss (a former agent) tried and failed to introduce reform to the CIA. The Wikipedia article on Goss is at least some kind of window into the events of his appointment and eventual resignation. The CIA officials who resigned over confrontation with Goss are now back in their old positions in the CIA, according to the Wiki article.
Many people had been waiting for the CIA dog to bite Obama, since Obama seemed to be kicking the dog. It hasn’t happended. One might conclude that the CIA at an administrative level shares Obama’s beliefs about America. In direct and indirect ways, the CIA and “the elite” are mainly interested in their prerogatives, pay, and power, filling the normal human need for meaning and purpose by subscribing willy-nilly to the Gramscian critique, or at least the cosmopolitan version of it that privileges the intelligentia.
I did a quick Google on William Kendall Meyers of the State Department and spouse, who for thirty years spied for Cuba.
“Through their lawyer, Bradford Berenson, they said they acted ‘not out of selfish motive or hope of personal gain, but out of conscience and personal commitment.’”
“’They always understood that they might some day be called to account for that conduct and always have been prepared to accept full responsibility for it,” the statement said. ‘They have done so today. They stand ready to accept the punishment the court will impose with grace and dignity.’”
“The pair also agreed to pay the government about $1.7 million — the salary Kendall Myers made while working at the State Department. They’ll forfeit their Washington apartment, a 37-foot sailboat and various bank and investment accounts.”
“The couple received little of value from the Cubans, prosecutors said. Instead, they appeared motivated by ideology, enthralled by Fidel Castro, whom they met privately in 1995.”
“‘Fidel has lifted the Cuban people out of the degrading and oppressive conditions which characterized pre-revolutionary Cuba,’ Kendall Myers reportedly wrote in a diary after a trip to Cuba in 1978.”
Back to squaring the circle…
If bureaucratic processes fail to combat an enemy configured as a complex adaptive system, then we will have to evolve our own complex adaptive system to check our adversaries. In America’s frontier days, the sheriff might be a day’s ride away, the calvary might or might not come to the rescue. It was the responsibility of each individual to protect themselves until the architecture of the state can be brought to bear on the crisis. Will we be forced to emulate our enemy, to form our own anti-Al Queda? What are the ethical coordinates of vigilantism in this regard? This means getting inside their turf, getting inside their heads… this means that the vanguard of this effort will have to be Westernized Muslims. Is this possible? Is there a way to do this outside of the cultural limitations? A halal Mission Impossible?
What has the Dept of Homeland Security accomplished for almost a year under new management?
Oh, yeah, they produced a new terrorist warning against the rightwing extemists and returning veterans.
All others are to be called man-made disasters.
22 wretchard
“Not until the West is facing an existential challenge will these two great bureaucratic idols be shattered. You will know when President Obama means business when useless departments are abolished, ridiculous regulations are rescinded and jail sentences are handed out to senior people. This will prove, better than any news conference or tour of talk shows, that both empowerment and accountability have ridden back into town.
For as long as nobody loses his job, nobody goes to jail, no dogs are let loose, and no Federal buildings are declared vacant then nobody really gives a shit except anything except business as usual.
27 whiskey
Ultimately, the form of Government will have to change, and for it to change the elites must all go. All of them. But that won’t be enough. Power must be pushed down to ordinary people, who must be prepared to use it, and to wield it, doing the best they can.
Dang, do we have some kind of meeting of the minds here…just expressed somewhat differently?
30. Subotai Bahadur
That leaves 5 levels in the bureaucracy which a) does not want to take responsibility for anything critical that they can be blamed for, and b) knows that the information, such as it is, is going to require a definite decision by the National Command Authority that cannot be kept secret; so that he will ride the heat for it. And that he, above all things, avoids riding the heat for anything. So we have 5 levels who each either kill the report, or send it back to be re-checked, and re-re-checked. If it does make it to DCI, he has to deal with the political brain trust who are terrified more of the political repercussions if he takes action [the choice of which action is itself not a simple decision] and the threat is not real, than the possibility of losing an American city, for which he can try to find scapegoats.
Shades of Vietnam. Only with quite a bit more serious consequences.
Back in the day, long ago and far far away, (as I like to begin my war stories for my grand kids), we had systems within systems reporting to even more systems that had to get sign offs from other systems before we could kill the bad guys.
Needless to say it only worked about one time out of ten. Which left us guys at the pointy end of the stick very unhappy, disillusioned and after awhile it brought us to the point of not giving a shit one way or the other. Our rice bowl never was filled, nor even acknowledged so there was no financial motive for us unlike the many layers of beauracy today. The rice bowls of those now on the U.S. payroll number in the millions and what is a few in the intelligence community to matter one way or the other. Other than keeping the bowl, no matter who knows or cares about it.
But there are a few, admittedly few in our intelligence community who work not for pay but for higher and better reasons. Must we do away with them in order to punish the many that just report to work and could really care less about doing any good for our Republic and for their fellows in other lands?
Like Subotai Bahadur states…“This is not going to end well”.
Then you have on the other hand the complete melt down of the dollar and the bottom falling out of our economy for real in the next couple of years.
Want to bet that China will not wind up owning most of California and some other liberal states? That millions more are homeless? That cities and states are not bankrupt by the gross? That wide spread crime and other terrible thngs won’t rear their ugly heads right in your front yard? What will you do when there are no more trucks coming to your grocery store to deliver goods that you can’t pay for anyway?
Which brings me back to my central philosophy of declaring that our government (which is little more than a political battlefield plus layers upon layers of inept highly paid idiots) can not and will not protect us any longer in our homeland and that we must prepare our families, our friends and ourselves to do the job that they can’t.
Just remember the six Ps:
Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.
And…Buy More Ammo.
Papa Ray
I believe if Obama wants to be president of US, he need to improve more that what we seen today
“Janet Napolitano Says She’s Most Surprised By “Al-Qaeda’s Determination” (Video)
http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/01/janet-napalitano-says-shes-most-surprised-by-al-qaedas-determination/
Here’s an interesting peek at the mentality of those at the top of the intelligence heap expressing what “surprised” them in the “review” Obama initiated after the DHS bungled pantybomber fiasco. The takeaway headline at RealClearPolitics is that Napolitano is most surprised by AQ’s determination. Bad enough, but what struck me as far more disturbing was her statement afterwards that :
“the tactic of using an individual to foment an attack, as opposed to a large conspiracy or a multi-person conspiracy such as we saw in 9/11, that is something that affects intelligence.”
MY takeaway is that the “intelligence” narrative was heavily focused, if not SOLELY focused on multi-pronged attacks, often considered by “terrorism experts” to be the sine qua non of al Qaida attacks. This is astounding. Apparently they weren’t prepared for the possibility that AQ would vary their attacks to such an extent that sometimes individuals would suffice where a group might not. Taking this a step further, the myopia extends to the notion that AQ is the only real threat we should be concerned with, rather than a much broader, deeper, and entrenched infestation or constellation of Islamic Jihad against the West.
Perhaps THIS mentality is the reason why the Fort Hood terrorist, and the Little Rock terrorist and the Pantybomber terrorist “slipped through”. Even after plenty of evidence that AQ has staged hundreds of individual bomber attacks in the past (including Richard Reid, and the recent “Anal Cavity” attack on the Saudi Prince), this fact was not sufficient to dislodge this group-think mentality petrified among “intelligence” that AQ only does group attacks.
My jaw drops in shock with each new revelation about the utter incompetence of the American counter Jihad. Combined, the intelligence agencies tasked with our defense against this growing threat totals more than $60 Billion, and probably well exceeds $100 Billion annually when added to FBI, Military Intel, and local law enforcement “anti-terror” assets.
What do we get for this money? I’m sure that many plots have been foiled — but if florid incompetence like that displayed repeatedly by Obama, Napolitano, Holder, et al can be credited, we’re squandering most of that money completely. We may get better protection from an agile organization with 1/10th or 1/20th the budget, but that would require leadership and focus — which is obviously sorely lacking.
Another place to start might be naming our Islamic Enemy in this war. But maybe that’s just me.
64 MD
“Another place to start might be naming our Islamic Enemy in this war. But maybe that’s just me.”
The enemy is Islam, which as long as our elites call a religion, can not be defeated but will have to be defended under our Constitution.
But as us citizens know (or at least a few million know) Islam is not just a religion. In fact it is not a religion as we define one at all. But getting our present government and the other millions of Americans to acknowledge this and act on it is many years of dissension and ignorance or several catastrophic murder events away.
In the mean time our economics are going to come to a screeching halt because of ignorant government decisions, actions and in-actions. Which will result in a melt down of our Republic the likes which will make the “depression” seem like a cake walk.
Papa Ray
Two days ago a suicide bomber in an mined car tried to blow Russian military base in Dagestan. Officers stopped him, so he detonated and killed 5 service men. The next day a private house was blocked where suspected terrorists were hiding. They were proposed to surrender, but they prefered to fire back. They were killed. That is how anti-terrorist operations should be conducted.
4. Annoy Mouse:
As I recently alluded I don’t see a point in having a list of 550,000 individuals on it, spending a year a million dollars to pare it down to 400,000 then eventually coming up with a “no-fly list” of 50,000. If you are suspected anything you should go straight onto the list.
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Amen.
The recent half-ass attempt at bringing down an airliner made me wonder about something.
Certainly, for the terrorists, 9-11 was a triumph. Lot of damage, lot of ink.
But Richard Reid and this last bozo weren’t the A-team.
As somebody said, if Reid and Mutallahab had succeeded, the field would be clear for obfuscation a la Flight 800. It is better for them to try and obviously fail, because if they succeed, the ‘crats could insist it wasn’t terrorism.
There are reports from time to time of people removed from airliners due to suspicious behavior, others not removed but with a certain amount of publicity. There are the Flying Imams, and all the factors involved in that case.
Then we have Ft. Hood and the shooting of the recruiters. The Trolley Square Mall shooting. The Jewish community center in Seattle. Some convert who decided to commit suicide by nail bomb on the Oklahoma campus, or who was so depressed by not being allowed into a football game….to read the excuses is to vomit.
Little ink. Little concern. Hasan is practically a “who?” now.
Islamberg.
The Goose Creek Two and the Ft. Dix Six got caught by luck.
Nothing.
We are being teased into putting enormous resources into the airlines which, unlike most other institutions in this country, are actually easy to protect. Relatively, at least.
Otherwise, as Gen. Casey said, we are respecting diversity no goddammatterwhat.
So while we’re leaning right….
It is the least effective organs within government that invariably receive the largest increases in funding and staffing.
While we look at the skies and spend billions upon security there, if i was an enemy of America I would be planning and executing plans along our shorelines to get weapons in that would cause catastrophic damage to America.
Now withstanding containers brought into America by the thousands each month, I would bring ashore somewhere on the thousands of miles of American’s coastline the materials or completed weapons needed.
There are already millions of Muslims in America. It is not unreasonable nor unrealistic to assume that aQ or other Islamic forces could not utilize them to carry out terror attacks upon the American Infidels.
And of course, don’t forget our northern border, which is much easier to cross.
But as I have said, it will be a tossup and a race to see who destroys America first….the Socialist Marxists or Islam. Will you survive?
The sorrow and reality is that both will come together at about the same time.
Can Americans withstand the combined might of both, the mind shock and the drastic changes in their lives?
I think only about 40 percent will be able to and it won’t include any of the elites, liberals or most of the minorities.
Papa Ray
MC/53; It is urgent that civil nuclear reactors become western countries main energy supply
I’m afraid you’re right about the significance of Yemen. “Foreign fighters” are pouring in, and Obama has apparently decided to make a fight against AQ there. Clearly KSA –or influence over its swing role in OPEC pricing –is the target, with Yemen to be the Cambodia/Laos-Yalu River sanctuary border. Nyquist’s new column worries that the balloon goes up sooner than we think –the headline is What to Expect in 2010.
–wish i could figure out what Obama’s up to. Something ain’t right –the hawkishness is too sudden, too grandiloquent, too big a gap with before, too theatrically bellicose.
Can’t help but recall that Lenin’s initial bridge-burning-behind-him was the active shaping of a miltary disaster for his own country. from that disaster sprang the October Revolution.
37. RagnarD:
Alexis – Removing the elites does not have to equate to death by summary execution. It also can be that we make them irrelevant. Start electing citizen servants again. No more life long appointments to the gov’t gravy train. Actually the chances are that when things get rolling it is they who shall start the rough stuff. See The Won’s statement about a civilian force. Then all bets are off.
Amen to that.
And on the “civilian force” thing: I see one branch being the recruitment of gangs, under the guise of “rehabilitating” them; sort of scaling up that “midnight basketball” nonsense of the Clinton years, but packing more menace than ACORN/SEIU combined.
71 Mongo BL Santamaria
“Something ain’t right –the hawkishness is too sudden, too grandiloquent, too big a gap with before, too theatrically bellicose.”
You and several million others know and feel the same thing. But I don’t think any of us can fathom what is planned.
All we can do is prepare for the worse.
Papa Ray
–wish i could figure out what Obama’s up to. Something ain’t right –the hawkishness is too sudden, too grandiloquent, too big a gap with before, too theatrically bellicose.
He’s been cranking up the Predator strikes in Pokiston for months – and I approve! He hit Yemen, for reasons unclear. I figure it’s Bob Gates who is really running the show.
I’m not sure this yet constitutes a coherent strategy, but it’s better than nothing, and probably more than Obambi ever envisioned himself involved in. He’s slowly realizing the need for him to play these games. Of course that puts him across his own earlier words and positions and beliefs and supporters, poor sod.
Lack of curiosity is what killed the cat…
More particulars from NYT:
“Murky Trail for ‘Loner’ in Attack on C.I.A.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/08/world/middleeast/08jordan.html?hp
The CIA double agent killer is reported to have made many online posts indicating his intentions to kill for Islam. In addition, associates and relatives are very forthcoming with anecdotes about this killer’s Jihadi intentions: ““My words will die if I do not save them with my blood,” and “My articles will be against me if I don’t prove to them that I am not a hypocrite,” the posting read. “One has to die to make the other live. I wish I could be the one to die.”
If these statements and anecdotes are true, perhaps the CIA was gulled into believing they were just part of the killer’s deep cover.
Here’s are some comments from the bitch (forgive me, but that’s the politest term I can think of to describe his mother):
She [his mother] said she was shocked at what he did but was “not ashamed.”
“He did it because he was a believer,” Mrs. Bayrak, who wrote a book comparing Osama bin Laden to Che Guevara, was quoted as saying by the semi-official Anatolian News Agency. “I am proud of him. He accomplished a major operation in such a war. May God accept his final prayer if he had become a martyr.”
Ahhh. A Muslim mother’s love is like no other… THIS is the hand that rocks the Islamic cradle. So much for the theories of the Phyllis Chesslers and the Daniel Pipeses and the Michael Ledeens who say that the war for Islam will be won by empowering women in Islam. Bullshit.
OK, NOW we understand, discussion on Rush, quoting from some yoohoo on MSNBC, it seems that Obama fears the pantybomber was a system failure “by those with an agenda”, presumably to make Obama look bad.
“Today President Obama described the steps he was taking in order to improve the defense against terrorism.”
You see the problem, somebody is trying to terrorize Barack Hussein Obama by making him look bad! Oh, the horror! Well then, “we” are *definitely* at war against al Qaeda, if that’s their disgusting plan!
What I mostly heard was Obama saying what an important person he is, all these different people (Brennan, Napolitano, Blair, on and on) report to him, he must be important.
I would feel a lot better if he could delegate all this to one really competent person, because (a) Obama is way outside his competence on this, and (b) even if he was competent at it, there are so many other demands on his time there’s no way he could give this its due.
I don’t think he ego will let him do this, even if (and it’s no slam dunk) there is a suitable person available.
ALSO, he talks about insisting on accountability but Napolitano is still there. If he meant it, she had to go. In fact, she should offer to resign and he should accept it. Like Lord Callaghan when the Argos invaded the Falklands in 1982–it wasn’t literally his fault, but it happened on his watch and he and Thatcher did the right thing to convey to the rest of the government, the nation and the world how seriously this was taken.
In the absence of such action, it’s just blah blah blah.
What they are saying they will protect their “Class” and the rest of us be damned.
Mongoose: this is a subset of what I ascribe to the elite’s depraved indifference to the safety of American citizenry. It’s nothing new (as you well know), and is an extension of the same scorn our system of justice has shown in not being willing to protect citizens from violent criminals, choosing instead to turn the Bill of Rights into a ‘protected species act’ for murderers and other sadistic thugs. ‘Depraved Indifference’ is considered a crime in some states, as in when someone fails to report a crime in progress, or fails to provide assistance to victims. Our ‘betters’ really don’t care if some of us are expended during either a ‘man-caused’ or ‘nature-caused’ disaster. We’re merely a commodity to them that is useful only when 1) we are productively employed or otherwise taxable, 2) of school age so we can be ‘molded,’ or 3) belong to a captive/beholden underclass whose votes and potential for group violence are guaranteed.
But then, I’m preaching to the choir, aren’t I?
5. Lifeofthemind:
How are problems solved? By having the right people in the right places.
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I have read that the constituents of wisdom are doing the right thing in the right way at the right time… sometimes I’ve heard people include a fourth dimension…that is doing things for the right reason.
but I think that may be going too far.
#50 Teresita
Indeed, Asians are discriminated against in certain college admissions processes. It’s because generally speaking Americans of Asian descent ARE hard working and eschew the plantation.
However, if a multi-culti leftist walked by you and a woman with Caucasian features having an argument, his relexive first assumption would be that the white woman started the fight and was in the wrong. It wouldn’t even be a conscious thing, it’s like breathing to him. In his world, you would be non-white, in conflict with a white person, and therefore the white person is automatically the evil one.
It’s just how leftists operate.
62. Papa Ray:
Then you have on the other hand the complete melt down of the dollar and the bottom falling out of our economy for real in the next couple of years.
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The arguments that I have seen lately are for more inflation forcing the fed to jack up interest rates sometime late this year or early next. While higher interest rates will tank the economy they will stablize the dollar–especially as oil imports are falling fast. (no thanks to O. same thing happened in the 1970′s when oil prices were jacked up.)
#77 Habu
Agreed at all points with the caveat that ECHELON is now probably more aimed domestically at the only groups that they will openly call “terrorists” [patriots] than at any foreign based enemy.
Italics.
That is html code, and this site does not take them all. I have gotten italics and boldface to work; but not others.
To start italics use “”; removing the ” marks. To end them use “” at the end of the word(s) you want italicized. To do boldface replace the “em” with “strong”.
Subotai Bahadur
Charles, Read this and the embedded link there.
He is not the only one that thinks that the Fed is leading us full circle into another catastrophe.
I don’t think it is another, but a logical continuation of our present catastrophe.
But even if the Fed doesn’t pull the plug by accident (again), there are other global reasons why the dollar is headed for a fall like no other in recent history.
The main one of course is the massive printing of dollars that have no actual value or backing. Into the TRILLIONS. Even to the point where the Chinese are very worried and have warned Obama and his idiot administration to cease and desist NOW.
But like before the democrats think that just saying everything is fine and going to be alright will make it so. They can’t seem to learn from their mistakes.
Papa Ray
A whole lot of systemic US problems would go by the side — and a whole lot of islamic expansionism would abate–if the US got off dependence on foreign–especially moslem.
At the beginning of 2009 there was a lot of uncertainty as to which alternative…fuel would get the US off dependence on foreign oil fastest,
best, cheapest, most reliably, dependably etc.
By the beginning of 2010 natural gas looks to be the winner. (Of course, salazar is regulating against natural gas–& oil– and soros’s minions have launched their own propaganda front against natural gas.)
I think nuclear power will be a big winner too but the wheels there are grinding mighty slow.
83. Subotai Bahadur:
Many thanks for the html code. Perhaps other contributors can share what works with us.
I dislike using quotes when other emphasis is more appropriate.
Placing Latin in quotes just doesn’t get it.
Habu
workout time
# 77 Habu:
Well I tried again, since this site apparently will not show the code elements, even when each element is marked off separately with ” marks. I described the keys to hit by location on the keyboard, and the post vanished when I hit submit despite attempts to reboot and waiting for several minutes.
Wretchard, are we under attack again?
In any case go here:
http://web-source.net/html_codes_chart.htm
and there is a chart of the html tags. PJM does not take all tags, but I have gotten both italics and boldface.
Subotai Bahadur
22 Habu: Had I a PhD I too could be working at the Hoover Institute.
Except for one teensy little problem, Habu. The Charter of the Hoover Institute says, “…the overall mission of this Institution is, from its records, to recall the voice of experience against the making of war, and by the study of these records and their publication, to recall man’s endeavors to make and preserve peace…” and therefore, a Hoover Fellow who called for killing most if not all of the world’s Muslims for being Muslim, all because of 19 guys with boxcutters and a twentieth guy with exploding underwear, would have a hard time fitting in with Victor Davis Hanson, Christopher Hitchens, Condi, Maggie, George Schultz, and John Abizaid.
Granted it has been since 1980 since I formally worked for the Company but the covert people I worked with, receiving their information from analysts was more appreciated than not
You’re still doing that thing about working for the CIA? Okay, if you knew people who were “covert” then they either weren’t covert or you are in violation of your SF189 by disclosing their appraisal of “information from analysts” (which in the actual, not imaginary CIA, is called “product”).
A single inside visit to NSA would confirm that to anyone.
Habu, the first rule of the NSA is: “You don’t talk about the NSA.” No one gets to visit to confirm anything. That’s sort of the whole point.
Buddy the cameleon
Without doubt, Petraeus is moving on Yemen in tandem with Israel (and Britain)
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LA09Ak03.html
the whole article has an interesting analyse, though it doesn’t say that Obama is stoopid, but that he is returning to the ol America’s line, and its privileges defense
ps) it isn’t a provocation from me –> white paws implied ! but just that it is interesting to bet on the stakes from another perspective, in the occurence the Chineses’
84. Papa Ray:
My understanding is that the bond vigilantes are not buying the feds take on a benign inflationary environment; that they will force the feds hand later this year or early next as actual inflation becomes more apparent; that –that is the point of the von mises article…ie don’t listen to the fed forcasts. they bin lyin.
I agree. However,traditionally higher interest rates mean a higher dollar.
I don’t understand the argument that interest rates should tell the truth…that is that the fed shouldn’t try to game the system. absolutely everyone around the world is trying to game the system.
central bankers from the around the world meet several times a year to game the system or act in concert. international banks are constantly borrowing from one another at lower rates to lend out again at higher rates. the carry trade in US dollars is already getting old. there is an enormous amount of telegraphing going on as to the end of that trade–because of higher US interest rates.
the cracks this year are expected to show up first in europe in places like greece where their governments are even worse than california at living within their means and making the appropriate adjustments in lean times.
No angel born in Hell
Could break that Satan’s spell
And as the flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite
I saw Satan laughing with delight
The day the music died
Beware of self fulling prophecies.
like in the 70′s there is whole lot of adjustment going on. at that time–that meant very high inflation followed by volker’s very high interest rates and a higher dollar and lower oil/gas prices. that’s the model that everyone is looking to play out over the next hmmm how many years? say 5 as from 1977-1982
might be the wrong model but that’s in play.
on balance the Obama is using the adjustment or “crises” as an opportunity to game the system so as to advantage the democratic party at the expense of long term US economic and security interests.
imho that means that actual long term economic help from the federal government will have to wait for a different administration. It also means that in most instances americans need to resist this administration darn near across the board. the white house has a lot of pent up stupid stuff from the democratic party that needs to be stuffed stifled and generally jammed back down their throats.
There are draw backs to this attitude of course. apropos to this thread — the white house will get little sympathy/help from the intel bureaucrats for what feeble national security efforts the Obama team does try to make on America’s behalf.
the intel people be too busy stayin alive
Did he say who is going to watch the ice melt now?
I assume the terrorists were taking careful notes.
Relative to intelligence failures, here is something very interesting from a new report on intelligence in Afghanistan:
“In conventional warfare, troops depend on big picture intelligence to figure out their ground strategies. However, in a counterinsurgency, troops, aid workers and others on the ground are usually the best informed about the enemy, the report said. Brigade and regional command intelligence summaries that rehash the previous day’s fighting are of little use compared with periodic reports that also address changes in the local economy, corruption and governance.”
“However, Flynn wrote, U.S. intelligence officials and analysts have spent too much energy focused on enemy activities and are “ignorant of local economics and landowners, hazy about who the power brokers are and how they might be influenced, incurious about the correlations between various development projects … and disengaged from people in the best position to find answers.”
“The officials “can do little but shrug in response to high-level decision makers seeking the knowledge, analysis and information they need to wage a successful counterinsurgency,” said the report, which was co-authored by Flynn’s adviser, Capt. Matt Pottinger, and Paul Batchelor with the Defense Intelligence Agency.”
“The U.S. intelligence community is only marginally relevant to the overall strategy,” the report concluded.
“I don’t want to say we’re clueless, but we are,” according to an operations officer quoted in the report. “We’re no more than fingernail deep in our understanding of the environment.”
So it seems that it is not just that the intelligence types are failing to recommend that parking all the P-40’s in Hawaii wing tip to wingtip in early December 1941 is a bad idea; they are not even aware that the enemy has aircraft carriers.
There is chance that Scott Brown a pubbie could win Kennedy’ seat in the senate. Brown is against obamacare.
anyone know any massachusettes conservatives/moderates/– independents espcially, kindly ask them to vote for Brown January 19th.
this election will be mostly about who shows up.
an analysis from Texas Darlin quoting Rasmussin shows that among voters certain to show up–Brown is just 2 points down.
A pubbie win in massachusetts might crack obamacare. That’s why liberal outfits like media matters have suddenly gone after rassmussen big time.
I can understand that a key problem in dealing with information is the hierarchical centalization of the governing infrastructure, but decentralization is not the answer. Why not?
Because a CAS or complex adapative system is not simply decentralized but is an integrated network. That is, its ‘hubs’ or ‘nodes’ of information collection, transformation and transference are indeed multiple, decentralized but also interconnected. That is, a key component of a CAS is its ability to rapidly network or communicate its information. Another vital component is that it can TRANSFORM information at each node, to enable better adaptive strategies in that specific location. This local adaptive capacity is vital to a CAS but is it suitable in our case?
I don’t think that an intelligence system ought to transform information. We’ve seen the problems with Obama transforming information, where he denies the reality of terrorism, calling it ‘man-caused disasters’ or ‘overseas contingency operation’ and the Xmas bomber an ‘isolate extremist’.
Furthermore, a CAS is involved with multiple external influences. This is why the organism best functions as a CAS. But -Islamic jihadism is ONE reality – expressed in many ways and activities, but it is ONE reality. Our system ought to be focused on this one reality, we ought to acknowledge that it has one agenda – to destroy us – and not, as Obama and his administration, deny or dilute or vary this agenda.
Our focus ought to be on intelligence gathering and the immediate networking collation of this data to linked ‘action-sites’. Obama’s immediate rejection of intelligence gathering by defining the Xmas bomber as an ‘isolate extremist’, a civilian, and giving him Miranda rights, meant that any and all attempts to gather information from him, were ended.
We ought to focus on information, on complete networking of this information, and on a clear commitment and acknowledgment that there is ONE reality in our envt, jihdism, that is the key threat to our existence.
91. Larry Sheldon:
Did he say who is going to watch the ice melt now?
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Ya mon.
Amazing story that. Definitely one to impress friends and enemies alike. Not.
@ Sergey 66 – yes and the Dagestan attack came after the AP story on Russian media claiming that Turkey, UAE and Saudi Arabia are funding Kavkaz militants. Food for thought for those who insist Russia is siding with Islamiacs.
Short afternoon video:
Jihad maneuvers taught at New York compound
Coming soon to a neighborhood near you.
Papa Ray
Consider what hand rocked the cradle of the current POTUS.
What experiences did he have living for years as a child in a Muslim society? What attitudes toward unbelievers? What attitudes toward women and their role? Did the adults around him display the values we’ve seen played out by so many Arab families, even many transplanted to America? How many times have we seen fathers and brothers exuberantly MURDER their daughters/ wives/ sisters because they rebelled and resisted the strictures imposed on them? In what attitudes toward homosexuals and dissidents was the young Obama steeped before he was old enough to exercise any critical thinking of his own?
In America there are rapists, child molesters, murderers. There are people who will assault and murder other folks for a whole list of reasons. America has people from almost every other culture and nation living in a vast experiment. In this country, those people are condemned as outlaws, and arrested and tried by the criminal courts when discovered. We have laws, courts, prisons and, in extreme cases, executions for the perpetrators of such vicious acts.
Look at the behavior of the Revolutionary Islamic government of Iran – people are executed for adultery, for homosexual acts, for fornication, for blaspheming the Prophet Mohammed, for practicing religions other than Islam, and many other crimes which the LEFT in the West define as protected “lifestyle” choices. We’ve seen for thirty years stark photographs of corpses of Iranians convicted of those transgressions, hanging from industrial cranes lined up along Tehran’s central boulevards.
Yet, the Left-Liberal-Lunkheads in the West, continue to Celebrate and Embrace the Differentness of Islam as an authentic expression of oppressed non-white third-world victims of Western European and US White Christian oppression, while at the same time utterly failing to acknowledge Islam’s deadly and relentless malevolence toward the Differentness of Gays, Lesbians, Transgendered, and otherwise non-conforming individuals that the LLL has spent most of a century promoting.
From the Arab Islamic countries we’ve seen videos of women wrapped and bound in linen, buried to mid-torso in the dirt, and stoned to death by crowds of men, for sexual behavior that in the West would secure for them lucrative contracts on the TV chat show circuit, and Hollywood film roles if they’re sufficiently voluptuous.
In Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, UK, France, and the US, we have seen scores of instances of Islamic families helping the father hunt and murder a daughter who has strayed from Islam and the brutal constraints of the secular culture of the family’s home country. These families, when interviewed after these “honor killings” almost universally proclaim that the daughter fully deserved to be murdered, and that it was the sacred right and duty of the family to kill her to preserve the family honor.
Remember Ayaan Hirsi Ali, famous as the apostate Somali woman who fled her Muslim family and arranged marriage in Kenya, to political asylum in the Nederlands. In a decade, she stood for a seat in the lower house of the Dutch House of Representatives, and was elected. For writing the script of Theo Van Gogh’s film Submission, and working for decades to get out the message of Islamic repression and brutality to women, she lives under the threat of death. Pittsburgh Imam Fouad El Bayly publicly stated she deserved a sentence of death, after trial in a muslim country. For his work with Ali, and for other films critical of Islam, Theo Van Gogh was shot dead by a Muslim one morning while cycling on a public street in Amsterdam to his work. The killer, Mohammed Bouyeri, then cut his victim’s throat, jammed two knives into his chest – one of which pinned a 5-page Jihadist screed to his corpse – and walked away.
With 1400 years of sustained Islamic violence used to spread and impose and maintain Islamic rule upon the faithful and the unbeliever alike, it takes a superhuman effort for a person to discount the deadly peril that Islam poses.
I frankly don’t understand how someone can deny that we are in a deadly conflict with Islam without their head popping like an egg in a microwave.
Obama doesn’t “get it.”
He will never “get it.”
In order to tolerate the titanic contradictions of the Grand Litany of Liberal Professions of Faith I call “The Catechism of the Delusional” his brain wiring has become utterly convoluted and disconnected. There is no longer any linkage between his facial expression or vocal timbre and the ideational content of the pronouncements he parrots from the teleprompter. He is a trained puppet, trapped in a role he understands no more than a five-year-old in a kindergarten pageant understands the pap of the play script.
His handlers are likewise out of their depth. The vandals are in the city, let in the gates by paid traitors, and the reports of the sentinels are over late.
I recommend Mountain House Freeze-Dried foods, British Berkefeld gravity-feed water filters, learning first aid, low-tech skills, blacksmithing, woodworking, organic gardening, canning and food preservation, spinning, weaving, felting, animal husbandry, and DEFENSE of the home (so you don’t forfeit all your preparations to the first puke with a weapon and a ‘tude that saunters up to your door.)
It can’t be too much longer before we are reduced to a barter economy, in which objects with intrinsic utility will have to serve double duty as an informal currency. (think: calibers and loads) Thanks be to GOD, we are smart enough to make such a system work.
Stock up now.
These are good preparation for natural disasters that occur regularly and predictably – tornados, hurricanes, earthquake, flood, fire, famine, locusts, plague. They are also good preparation for civil disorder, collapse of government from nukes or bowel-gushing fear among the elite when they realize how pitifully inadequate they are to the threat of a handful of dedicated zealots.
I find I have to spend time thinking about how I will respond to situations that our country has come to regard as unthinkable. Says a lot about the times that the commenters here at Belmont give me more hope for the survival of the culture than does the vast sprawl of federal bureaucracies.
As usual, I am deeply indebted to you all for the clarity and vision you share.
Obama doesn’t “get it.” He will never “get it.”
Or, much more dangerously, he gets it completely.
The difference between a liberal and a Communist is that the Communist knows what he’s doing. — James Burnham
I think they know what they’re doing, and the fix is in for 2010.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/01/obama_and_the_white_house_chic.html
“–wish i could figure out what Obama’s up to. Something ain’t right –the hawkishness is too sudden, too grandiloquent, too big a gap with before, too theatrically bellicose.”
I don’t think it’s too hard to figure out – this is the message his pollsters told him Americans wanted to hear, so he stood up there and mouthed the words written for him. That’s about the only thing he’s ever been good at. Is there any long term plan in effect? I see no evidence to support that, I just see short term squirming and desperate measures to try and make it through the short term.
He doesn’t care about gaps with before – he and his handlers believe that the Presidency is just a constantly moving episode of Short Attention Span Theatre. Nothing he says comes with more than a 24 hour shelf life, and this is no different.
It will be easy to tell if this view is the true one – if it is, there will be no followthrough, no commitment to a new direction, and no changes in what we do other than the small changes that the people tasked with doing the actual work may be able to do on their own.
A lot of people seem determined to figure out what “The Plan” is. I believe there is no longer any “plan” – just desperate stumbling around in the dark by people who are in jobs miles above their skillsets, and who are hamstrung by a fatally flawed ideology which blinds them from truths that are painfully obvious to the rest of the world.
Sorry, that’s s’posed to be “The Catechism of the Delusional” with a TRADEMARK! TM.
Teresita,
If my memory is correct we got off on the wrong foot (over at the Elephant Bar) after you claimed that US Marines at Guadalcanal MURDERED Japanese who were helplessly in the water. I took exception to your characterization and the use of the word MURDERED.
So just stow it …. you’re a bright woman/lesbian/whatever you are these days and I appreciate most of your writing but you questioned my Marine Corps service and my CIA service. Too bad toots. They’re both a fact.
99 Mad Fiddler
Good words and presented with much excellence.
This is telling…
“I find I have to spend time thinking about how I will respond to situations that our country has come to regard as unthinkable. Says a lot about the times that the commenters here at Belmont give me more hope for the survival of the culture than does the vast sprawl of federal bureaucracies.”
If I have any wish left to this old man it would be that the average American will be alerted to the dangers coming. A man needs a chance to defend his family.
Here is a link that you may already know of, but placed for those that do not.
Survivalblog
Another one is The Survivalist who seems not unlike many including myself. I love reading the stuff he writes about and his reader’s comments.
Papa Ray
101 peterike
Thanks so much for the link. It bears repeating.
Obama and the White House Chicago Boys
Everyone should read and heed this article as gosple. I have been saying the same for months and am heartened that others are alerted to what is coming.
We must not let them get away with it.
Papa Ray
Teresita,
Also it seems you didn’t want to discuss the Japanese Unit 731 where allies were torture far beyond what Dr. Mengele was doing in the Nazi camps…
Any defense of that unit today?
Have a nice day.
Mad Fiddler and Papa Ray ….good work
I have been reading Survivalblog for about four years. It is a primier site.
My recent hiatus and off grid work was to do some winter practice. You’ve got to keep the knife sharp and there’s only one way to get that done and that’s to do it.
A Berkey water filter allowed me to use water right out of the Missouri River and is a MUST HAVE survival item. Good luck.
RE# 4 Annoy Mouse:
As I recently alluded I don’t see a point in having a list of 550,000 individuals on it, spending a year a million dollars to pare it down to 400,000 then eventually coming up with a “no-fly list” of 50,000.
And yet when I go in to purchase a firearm at my local Gander Mountain, I have to wait as they do a security check on me to see if I am flagged for a No-Sale! That check normally takes a few minutes. And you can bet your arse that if any kind of record shows up, I walk out without the fireram. In some states I would have to wait several days before making the purchase, even if I am a go-for-sale!
Imagine if we used a similar check on folks who DO NOT have a right to fly, as we do on those who DO have a right to bear arms!
This just in…
In a “shocking” turn of events, the Knickerbomber pleads “not guilty” to all charges. Ringling Brothers was immediately contacted to deliver dozens of clowns, several elephants and a sword swallower for the circus that is now going to ensue.
And now, the weather. Cold. Everywhere….
Alexis, the French Revolution removed the elites. By killing, yes some of them but mostly by abolishing and removing the sources of power:
1. Removal of Landed Estates.
2. Abolishing hereditary superior treatment under law.
3. This was the most important — making most peasants small landowners.
This last was the structural reform that removed the aristocracy from power, and created the city-countryside alliance that was both conservative in nature (small landowners are famously conservative, the subject of irritation by French intellectuals) and able to out-produce the old aristocracy.
Similarly, the Jacksonian revolution threw out the old East Coast elites and through the destruction of the Bank of the United States ushered in a new era of rule by Westerners — from Ohio and Illinois.
As a practical matter, destruction/removal of the decadent elites means de-funding Harvard OR expanding it and the other Ivies to “Land Grant Len” standards (i.e. Ben Bradlee’s biography where the predecessor to his tenure as Editor fo the Washington Post was derided for being a graduate of Ohio State not Harvard). Making Harvard the home of 150,000 commuter or satellite students is the same as defunding it. Particularly if anyone can and does get in.
This means defunding NPR, or turning it into a popular institution. Playing Rock hits and hosting Rush Limbaugh. This means either destroying the LA and NY Times, or transforming them into popular and populist institutions. Either is fine by me.
Pol Pot did nothing, except exchange one set of thieves for another. Neither did Mao. What structurally happens is when the MEANS for economic and social power are transformed and pushed down to the people.
If everyone goes to Harvard, yes it’s not snob special, but everyone now has the desire and ability to make Harvard the place where people learn statistics, calculus, and computer modeling, not transnational snobbery.
On one hand, it may be important to have citizens in attendance to monitor activities at public polling places, particularly to witness, observe, and maintain order. I’m guessing that people will need some sort of credentials issued by local authorities – whoever is in charge of running the elections. But the significance of the New Black Panthers was symbolic, not crucial to the outcome.
In case of any actual fisticuffs – or bloodshed – between radicals intimidating voters and citizens trying to stop them, Eric Holder’s DOJ has already made it clear which side of the question it will support.
But more to the point, it is the clandestine shenanigans of pus-filled ACORN agents and suborned officials ready to participate in criminal election fraud that pose the next deadly threat to the republic.
For all the leftists accusing the Republicans of election fraud, the actual facts have shown almost without exception that the dirty tricks, slashed tyres, smashed and vandalized offices, stuffed ballot boxes, beatings and intimidations have been done by Democrats and Leftists to conservatives. Last summer’s celebrated trashing of a Democratic Party office in Denver,Colorado was proven within days of the event to be the work of a paid Democratic party canvasser and Leftwing activist Maurice Schwenkler. Of course, the Democrats continue to insist it was done by conservative protesters of ObamaCare.
The demonizing Left may have some rude awakenings coming. The so-called “classic tactics” of Saul Alinsky can be used by their opponents.
Hey! And believe it or not, even the plain truth still has some persistent power.
Eventually, even the certifiably rabid Leftwing birdcage liner New York Times acknowledged that George W. Bush actually won every single chad-diddling Florida recount demanded by the Democrats who had changed the rules repeatedly to try to change the outcome.
peterike @ 57
No doubt, this guy is one of those to whom you refer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFo5Ky8YE8c
Marshall…he is the man, as the kids say today.
Obamays directive yesterday for more indepth intel analysis will result in AQ undertaking a intel strategy called “jamming” in that they can generate faux info into the “receivers” ie; humint,sigint etc. and the channels of intel will be jammed with disinformation. When Whiskey’s big one comes along it will probably be via a small group who do not communicate with anyone once the mission is launched.
Whiskey
“bonne progression, peut encore mieux faire”
@59 Mark: I believe that it is -Porter- Goss, not Peter. I have never heard a good explanation of why he failed so quickly at CIA, but you are right that the morons who were fired or resigned during his tenure are now back. I will look at Wikipedia, but I distrust it very much on anything non-technical.
Ted Pappas of the Encyclopedia Brittanica, said this about Wikipedia, “The premise of Wikipedia is that continuous improvement will lead to perfection, that premise is completely unproven … with many of the pieces you don’t know who it’s written by, and who the administrators are … one of the administrators over seeing the political coverage openly encourages people to vote for John Kerry … 30,000 articles were created by a bot [an automated program that goes round causing havoc] … hyperlinks, bulletpoints and cut-and-paste press releases do not an encyclopedia entry make.” Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2004/oct/26/g2.onlinesupplement
heyyoukidsgetoffmylawn @111
I love that clip! Surely, the insufferable schmuck on the movie line is now running the State Department or something like that. Most amazing thing about that clip: people are smoking on a movie line, in New York.
Funny how the cities once known for the freedom one found there — you could get up to anything — are now known for their petty tyrannies.
peterike @ 115
Yes, I knew there’d be big trouble in little china on the horizon when I read that at a California road house the bikers dutifully trailed outside for a smoke.
Sort of like Visagoths wearing safety goggles and lime green fluorescent bicycle helmets as they power walk on their rampage through Rome.
Somewhere something’s lost.
111. whiskey
An interesting sidebar to your pointing out of Jacksonian democracy (not your exact words) is the fact that in 1815 when he was just a General in the Army he declared martial law and when issued an order by a federal judge overturning his usurpation of the constitutional right to habeas corpus he threw the judge in jail.
Years later when Lincoln also declared martial law and suspended habeas corpus he cited Jackson as his example. Not very reassuring.
Our politicians have continued destroying the individual’s rights since day one.
I believe it was Adlai Stevenson II during his tenure as our UN Ambassador who said the Soviet Union was like a gang of hotel thieves who simply walked down the corridors turning every doorknob until they came upon an open room. They would then have their way.
The Democrats are the same regarding our constitution, using every artifice they can to usurp more and more power to their party. This is the Soviet model; party above all and the Bill of Rights are simply doorknobs to be wrenched off in order to control hoi polloi. They will soon run into the Terror.
sig/112; or ”channel stuffing”. Obama’s promise means that instead of weighting the voluminous leads that pop up daily (Michael Scheuer says the number is “astronomical”) –or IOW operating in a sane manner –the agencies will now have to investigate every lead in the order of arrival.
of course they’ll fall behind more every day, until the new system, because it will be useless as well as denying place to useful, actually subverts itself and becomes an enemy weapon. no analyst or agent can ”miss anything” so long as the leads are checked out in the order of arrival. they’ll inevitably fall weeks, months, years behind? Ah, that’s the price of thoroughness, me boyo.
nicely juxtaposed above, the entire range of possibiles is somewhere between the opening of comment 99 and the closing of comment 100.
Mongo/118; exactly…overload the channel with bogus info and the intel guys have to chase down all of the crap info wasting valuable resources on a dead end. There is no way for NSA, CIA, DIA, or our military G2 to stop the next big one because western democracy and the USA are wide open for almost any kind of infiltration you can imagine…gee, lets take the motor boat across lake Erie from Canada where we have an AQ cell to blow up Buffalo or Cleveland with the nuke that was smuggled in from Dubai on a French freighter. Who will be able to discover it? Jack Bauer…not….and oh yes it will come from Canada and not from Old Mexico. The “chatter” intel will hear will be Alah Acaabar and it will be too late.
“The Democrats are the same regarding our constitution, using every artifice they can to usurp more and more power to their party. This is the Soviet model; party above all and the Bill of Rights are simply doorknobs to be wrenched off in order to control hoi polloi. ”
Two thoughts:
I don’t think Republicans are very far behind in this regard. They’re not (yet) as bad as the Radical Dems are today — but I assure you if you emerged like Rib Van Winkle out of a deep sleep from yesteryear, you’d be forgiven for thinking you’d dropped into the middle of the USSA.
I think no party is immune to the evil effects of the consolidation of power. Our Fed has gradually usurped more and more power under both parties, and now we’re stumbling towards tyrannical concentrations of money, power, and influence in Washington. Both parties are susceptible to this very bad disease.
Life of the Mind @ 5
I concur. Creating mono cultures in changing environments engenders great risk.
If pattern recognition is problematic, it would seem advisable to seek out the colour blind.
“The bodyguard of lies” referred to in a recent thread had as its companions those who were the subjects of an active search for and retention of the quirky and unconventional in personality and skills.
One such example/application was that in order to detect that which was camouflaged, observers were enlisted from people with a range of colour perception deficiencies who would be bundled into a Mosquito and rip across enemy areas at low altitude and high speed.
Doubtful today they would pass the psych, physical (20/20 & colour) and H.R… it is to laugh.
(Re:Bodyguard of Lies see “The Man Who Never Was”)
87. Teresita
“Habu, the first rule of the NSA is: “You don’t talk about the NSA.” No one gets to visit to confirm anything.”
Teresita, give your brain a chance, they have a web site that lays out what they do, their mission etc….. yet you say no one talks about them .. square that up a bit.
But no one talks about the NSA….yeah sista.
http://www.nsa.gov/
122. Morton Doodslag
The Reps aren’t anywhere close to how radical the Socialists Dems are.
Yet you hit the bulls eye. As Madison pointed out in Federalist #10. He is speaking of factions since political parties were a few decades away ..they are the fctions madison was speaking about:
“…..The instability, injustice, and confusion introduced into the public councils, have, in truth, been the mortal diseases under which popular governments have everywhere perished; as they continue to be the favorite and fruitful topics from which the adversaries to liberty derive their most specious declamations…”
That is why we the people are suppose to rise up in rebellion at times such as we find ourselves in now.
Never happen though.
Sigintel @119
Excellent analysis. It will give them a chance to wave to their little buddies mid stream as they take the other one from Dearborn to Toronto.
No one said they were bright.
habu/123:
“No society is more than three missed meals away from revolution.”
–V.I. Lenin
lets take the motor boat across lake Erie from Canada where we have an AQ cell to blow up Buffalo or Cleveland with the nuke that was smuggled in from Dubai on a French freighter
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/29/uae-seizes-ship-bound-for-irancarrying-north-korean-weapons/
try that, you’ll have to pay the high price, and give your order to the italian office that manages freights for this company
But I conceid you that “ANL” freighter in Australia has french partnership, like any big businesses have
but of course in your mind, it was only french that could make that !
you lazy conspircies swallower !
French, Italian, Swedish….sorry to insult your “frog” sensibilites Marie, but Marsellies is renowned for smuggling! I loved the “French Connection”.
We are in good hands…
We are the TSA and You can count on Us
Papa Ray
The thing with “intelligence” agencies is that pure intelligence is essentially worthless. The key question is what is the information acquired supposed to be used for? If you don’t know that you can never separate the signal from the noise, and neither can the intelligence agencies in knowing what information they need to gather.
And the question behind that question is–even if you get that information, how much utility does it have in regards to your goals, strategy, and tactics, assuming you had any to begin with? If you are going to proceed in the same patterns of behavior in any case acquiring such information is a waste of time and resources.
I fear that’s what we have under the Obama administration–they will keep on doing the same things despite the circumstances around them. If reality only consists of your preconceptions, information changes nothing. It will be ignored if it does not validate those preconceptions.
We have seen on Christmas Day, with fortunate results much better than we deserved,
how intelligence that is gathered for the purpose of defending us without at the same time possibly offending anybody on religious or ethnic lines was worth. For all the billions spent, it had all the intrinsic worth of a piece of used toilet paper.
SIGINTEL
say, you were impressed by the movie !
it is interesting to notice that it was supported by CIA since WWII times
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Connection
Almost two hours later…(PDF document)
Fixing Intel: A Blueprint for Making Intelligence Relevant in Afghanistan
An excellent read full of revelations and hard truths.
Time is not on our side.
Papa Ray
Gee, what a surprise!
“Judge tosses out most evidence on Gitmo detainee” http://www.publicopiniononline.com/news/ci_14149826
Completely predictable. So how’s that KSM trial thing goin’ Buraq? Kinda tough to be serious all of a sudden about terrorism when you’re forced to set captured terrorists free, all because of Bambi’s naive legalisms.
The major problem with the Big 0’s Administration and all agencies under it is simple. It lacks integrity, leadership, loyalty. The president sets the tone for the huge pyramid of agencies below him.
It is clear he is a liar, swindler, and inexperienced statesman. Worse, he is getting away with it. This mind set is projected down the bureaucratic pyramid.
To compound the problem, Bill and Hillary Clinton are greasing the cronyism cogs with their own snake oil. Bill and Hillary come as package set and should not be in the Administration.
The CIA and State department has turned CAS in CYA. They are more interested in deflecting criticism, as is the Big 0, than correcting the problem. The have put themselves above the people they server.
Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab clearly should never have gotten a visa. The UK denied him a visa, his father informed authorities of his son’s radical behavior and he was a loner with no real roots in any country. Yet, under Hillary Clinton’s steward ship at the State Department he was give a US visa.
The damage is done. Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab has proven it is possible to slip high explosive aboard an American bound aircraft and partially complete the detonation process. If he had never been given a US visa this whole bomb episode wound not have happened – neither would the ensuing governmental fiasco.
Now, the Big 0 and his self-absorbed cronies are in full CYA mode. They have chosen to abandon a proven security method of profiling terrorists and chosen to invasively x-ray every single individual – similar to medical doctor performing a full body scan of a cancer patient. The costs in time, money and privacy will be enormous. It’s a huge tax on travelers which will propagate through the economy.
To be blunt, the problem is at the top. The Big 0 is far worse than Nixon. It’s high time for another President to get the boot. The quicker he is legal removed from the White House the better.
Unruly passengers cause 2 flights to change course
Can you hear the laughter?
Papa Ray
The critical moment in the French Revolution was not the Terror. That was only a device to commit the nation to the results of the revolution and forestall backsliding. Much more important was what happened at the beginning with the Great Fear. That was when the peasants with the encouragement of the shopkeepers and artisans burned the chateaux. The reason they burned them was to destroy all the legal records. 18th century France, like 5th century BC Athens and 21st century America was ruled by litigation. Everyone had a lawsuit and the blood sport of tracing and arguing special rights and grievances supplanted productive work. By destroying the records they destroyed the basis of feudalism and freed France to develop. We now need a cleansing to free us from the tort bar.
To be blogged under the title “The Great Fear.”
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I woke up in a sweat in the dark of night.
There was a ruddy glare casting a flickering glow on the wall opposite the window.
Odd.
I live far from any street lamps, and the color was nothing like the lights triggered by the motion-sensors.
No echoes of any detonations; no rumble or roar or whoosh of any sort of nearby structural fire. No pungent combustion products in the air – the dogs slept soundly.
I slipped out from the covers into some slippers and padded to the window.
In the inky sky to the West, 20 degrees or so above the distant pines on the ancient moraine I saw:
Letters of Fire in the Heavens…
“Impeach NOW!”
I flatly oppose using unconstitutional methods to shift the balance of power within America. There are other more effective means to accomplish the same thing.
All that is necessary to take away the cultural power of the Ivy League is simple – stop electing people with Ivy League credentials. And that goes ten times over for electing them to the Presidency. The only alumni from state colleges and universities to be elected to the Presidency in the past sixty years were Lyndon Johnson and Gerald Ford, and each of them started out as Vice Presidents. And only LBJ got elected.
One thing we often forget about private colleges and universities is that they are private colleges and universities. Private elitist colleges are highly resistant to state interference, as opposed to state colleges and universities that must conform to the desires of state governments. Moreover, in a free society, private colleges ought to have the freedom to withstand government intrusion. The problem comes when the power of private elitist schools becomes so pervasive that it effectively stifles democracy itself.
If federal or state governments were to use eminent domain on the estates of private colleges and universities, this would set a bad precedent. We should not be asking federal and state governments to expand their power in such a manner lest our opponents use such a precedent against institutions they don’t like (such as the National Review).
Here are some things that can be done instead.
1. Stop electing people from elitist colleges; turn these degrees into political liabilities.
2. All else being equal, push for political candidates and cabinet officials who come from public colleges and universities.
3a. Find ways to limit the number of people from any particular college who become part of the diplomatic or intelligence agencies. Call it “academic diversity”, for all I care. Promote alumni from state colleges and universities whenever feasible.
3b. Alternatively, set up federal academies much like our military academies for training diplomats and spies.
When the elitist colleges lose their political monopoly over staffing elective offices and the federal bureaucracy, much of the problem of elitism on college campuses will wither away. The key question is whether elitism is an asset or a liability to a politician.
Nicholas Biddle’s tenure as President of the Bank of the United States was a problem. The problem wasn’t the Bank of the United States. The problem was Nicholas Biddle. Nicholas Biddle was a talented, intelligent, and highly accomplished man whose political judgment and wisdom did not measure up to his accomplishments as a banker. He should never have turned the Bank of the United States into a political power to rival the Presidency nor should he ever have used it as a weapon against President Jackson. Nicholas Biddle should be considered to be more responsible for the Bank’s demise than Andrew Jackson himself because he should have known better than to dare President Jackson.
In the 1830’s, the Bank of the United States had the wrong man controlling it and the Bank was desperately in need of reform. However, it was also necessary. If the Washington administration had adhered to the monetary policies of Andrew Jackson, the United States would have gone bankrupt in the 1790’s. And after the demise of the Bank, the Panic of 1837 didn’t make the lives of Americans better. Was it really better to rely upon fly-by-night banks that proliferated throughout the United States for the next century? Was it really better to rely upon the graces of corporate tycoons such as J.P. Morgan to run our financial system? Is even the present Federal Reserve an improvement over a reformed and accountable Bank of the United States?
I agree that Nicholas Biddle crossed several political lines that ought to have ensured his sacking as President of the Bank of the United States. I do not agree that destroying the Bank of the United States was a good idea.
Likewise, I doubt that forcing National Public Radio to play country music would improve either NPR or country music. Instead, a slow yet persistent process of changing the hiring criteria for new hires would have a much more lasting effect.
# 134 Papa Ray
Today’s disrupted flight landed in Colorado Springs, down the road a piece. FBI met the plane and …… deplaned the disruptive soul. There are reports that he may have been drunk, but the key thing is that he had barricaded himself in the head. Given the events of Christmas Day and two days afterwards; that tends to attract attention. Oh, one other thing. They released his name.
Mohammed Abu Tahir
Damned Amish!
Seriously, with 4 in flight disturbances by Muslims since Christmas: Christmas, December 27, the flight from Miami to Detroit a couple of days ago, and now the flight from Atlanta to San Francisco today; it appears we have a new disruptive tactic in play. Until some group of passengers cause severe bodily injury to the disruptor [and are charged with hate crimes by the regime], it will be the new standard.
Subotai Bahadur
Whiskey:
I think you may hate your “elites” far too much for your own good. Don’t you realize how your fulminations against “the elites” would be regarded as flattery to their ears? They like to see themselves as embattled. They like to see themselves as hated. They like to see themselves as besieged by “a horde of bigots”. Has it ever occurred to you that elitists may get their kicks out of your resentment against them?
It may be wiser to make the ruling class uncomfortable. It may be wiser to make an elitist uneasy and confused rather than emboldened and excited.
Alexis 137:
While I agree with you about Ivy Leaguers, state schools often produce the same liberal nitwits. Trade our Ivy Leaguers for the products of U of M and the Peoples Republic of Ann Arbor? Wow, what a deal! Sorry bro, same turds, different pile.
Degrees, regardless of where from, show nothing of character, common sense or leadership. A degree shows you have academic aptitude and little else. The practice of using a degree as some magical litmus test for any/all occupations is such a joke.
How about requiring enlisted active duty service in a combat arms or combat support MOS?
How about politicians pass the same stringent background checks that local/state/federal law enforcement must pass (most wouldn’t pass)?
(This is my first post by the way. Just like to say that I’m a big fan of Whiskey, Papa Ray, Morton Doodslag, and Habu.)
LOTM
you are confounding our revolution with a modern revolution of polpot style, or for the last records of the Iranians’
The critical moment in the French Revolution was not the Terror. That was only a device to commit the nation to the results of the revolution and forestall backsliding. Much more important was what happened at the beginning with the Great Fear. That was when the peasants with the encouragement of the shopkeepers and artisans burned the chateaux. The reason they burned them was to destroy all the legal records. 18th century France, like 5th century BC Athens and 21st century America was ruled by litigation. Everyone had a lawsuit and the blood sport of tracing and arguing special rights and grievances supplanted productive work. By destroying the records they destroyed the basis of feudalism and freed France to develop. We now need a cleansing to free us from the tort bar.
this is the most weird interpretation of our Revolution that I ever seen
It wasn’t a peasants revolution, but a BOURGEOISE’s, inspired by the american’s one and their reading of the enlightenedS
the peasants and the poors stores keepers, revolted because of the high prices of the life, since a few years there were no crops (or so little) because of frozen winters and rotten other seasons with neverending rainings, and that nobles were rising new taxes, because of the kingdom bankrupting, that they didn’t want to bail out with their own properties and or money, like our population will revolt if Sarkozy invents a new tax when he shaves each morning.
Also the peasants were illiterated, and had no means to claim anything into a trial, as by such condition, you only servily comply. The alone persons that can pursue someone else were the “educateds”, I let you guess the percentage of them among this lower population, uh, the priests ?
Alexis,
“One thing we often forget about private colleges and universities is that they are private colleges and universities. Private elitist colleges are highly resistant to state interference”
Er, Alexis, I believe most of the funding for our private universities and colleges now comes from the government through loans (with the student as the liable party) and grants. The left long ago grabbed control of our Universities, both public and private, with the intent of subverting the minds of our young, and seduced the taxpayer into paying for this ever expanding vast system of leftist indoctrination. That is the core problem.
The “elite” arrogance and errant, anti-American mindset seemingly acquired in college, happens to many students in almost all the better rated Universities. It’s just the higher up the “elite university” ladder you go, the more arrogant and delusional the graduates become. To make matters even worse, our society, particularly in government, the law and the corporate world, has been rigged to defer to the delusional elite University credentialed, without serious regard to the work product of those same credentialed.
Actually, we the taxpayer hold the keys to this mess. All we need is the will, courage and determination to selectively defund the indoctrination apparatus in our Universities. Because we the people are footing the bill, we need to demand equal protection for conservatives and the religious so they are not discriminated against in the dissemination of ideas, grading, hiring and administration of our Universities.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/books/review/Will-t.html?_r=1
Nixon and Palin are not symptoms of their times, but the explanations for them, that is if you ask Rick Perlstein or Andrew Sullivan.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/01/palin-1-schmidt-0.html
The ever excitable weathervane Sully does get at least one thing right: McCain’s campaign was a pretty contemptable bunch, led by a bunch of GOP Washington lobbyist insiders who could barely disguise their contempt for the rubes and rednecks they were pandering to by picking Palin.
When MSNBC sputters about ‘tea baggers’ what they are really doing is just digging a deeper hole for themselves, akin to the folks who described all Goldwater supporters as psychologically dis-ordered then were stunned when Reagan was elected sixteen years later. In Sully world, Palin astro-tured the Tea Party mob, in other words, into existence.
All those bailouts and massive spending increases, and people seeing where the 100k a year jobs are now concentrated – Washington – while their jobs vanish must have nothing to do with it. And again an elite just makes the peasants with the pitchforks angrier with a Marie Antoinette statement, ‘Let the teabaggers (who have noticed that the public and financial sectors have looted, pillaged and raped the rest of the economy, while producing nothing of value unlike the New Dealers who at least built stuff) eat cake.’
Now the same bunch, including the likes of Randy Scheunemann who lobbied for Georgia to fight Russia to the last Georgian, are weaseling their way in to Gov. Tim Pawlenty’s campaign. Which is a sure fire sign that Pawlenty’s campaign is going absolutely nowhere. McCain remember at one point was being out-fundraised by Ron Paul, and would have lost the nomination had Huckabee been worth rallying around or Mitt Romney not been a Mormon former Gov of Massachussets but a Baptist from Colorado instead.
I am glad that at least a few here noticed that McCain probably would have been Obama lite. Uncle Sugar George Soros, who slowly but surely began to work his malign ‘transnational progressive’ influence over McCain on issues that mattered by the 2000s, would have seen to it.
And in any case, I’m sure Whiskey has his theories about what Mike Savage used to refer to as the ‘Lavender Mafia’ and their power in D.C. Simply put, not a place to have kids if you’re middle class in your twenties, though many immigrants God bless them do try, and God forbid that some in that town admit that folks half their age could do their job and do it just as well but without being part of the nomenklatura.
Worm & Unsk:
Cultural values work better than bureaucratic rules. If you want military veterans for higher office, vote for them! However, bureaucratically requiring combat duty for elected officials could backfire; that would have screened out George W. Bush and screened in John Kerry! Do you really want that?
Of course leftist faculty control many public colleges and universities. And many of those come from the Ivy League! Once any subculture takes over an academic department, it puts down roots. Whenever the senior faculty hire the new faculty or even judge tenure for junior faculty, they can set the political agenda through changes in personnel. This is nothing new.
If you don’t like how leftist faculty run college campuses, tell your elected leaders about it! If you don’t speak up, nobody else will. Politicians and college administrators may even listen to you! Moreover, if the hiring process for new faculty were taken out of the hands of tenured professors, the effect on college campuses would be profound.
Public colleges and universities are far more vulnerable to public pressure than their private counterparts. That means they must listen to what the people want or at least pay lip service to doing so. That gives ordinary citizens a kind of leverage that would not exist for a private foundation that must only answer to its donors.
Federal funding could be banned from any college or university that prohibits ROTC on its campus. That can mean no DARPA funds. No student aid. Nothing. The federal government has that power and it can use that power if you insist upon it. ROTC could be tasked with teaching “national security languages” on college campuses. And there is nothing leftist faculty can do to stop it unless they want to cut off funding for their own campuses.
I hear that word “defund” lots of times. Ronald Reagan tried that partially and it didn’t keep Berkeley from becoming a leftist bastion. Ideologically driven budget cuts have been counterproductive, if anything. Moreover, I don’t think the people of any state are truly interested in closing down our colleges and universities. Instead of using the word “defund”, it may be better to use the word “reform”.
Nationwide, colleges and universities have bloated administrations with vastly overpaid administrators who reign as if they were princes. As a rule, college administrators actually do a better job when they are paid less because lower paid administrators are more influential with the faculty they supervise. If you want to combat elitism on college campuses, you could start with streamlining the bureaucracy and keeping the salaries of college administrators proportional to the faculty they supervise. If you really want to stop elitism, you could also streamline the board offices of “state university systems” or even eliminate them completely. If you pushed state referenda abolishing “university system” bureaucracies altogether, you may find allies within the universities themselves.
79. Charles:
5. Lifeofthemind:
How are problems solved? By having the right people in the right places.
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I have read that the constituents of wisdom are doing the right thing in the right way at the right time… sometimes I’ve heard people include a fourth dimension…that is doing things for the right reason.
but I think that may be going too far.
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Why?
Romans 3:23
All have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of god.
Romans 3:9
9What then? Are we Jews[a] any better off?[b] No, not at all. For we have already charged that all, both(A) Jews and(B) Greeks, are(C) under sin,
For cross references see notes
Isaiah 6
Isaiah’s Commission
1 In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord seated on a throne, high and exalted, and the train of his robe filled the temple. 2 Above him were seraphs, each with six wings: With two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying. 3 And they were calling to one another:
“Holy, holy, holy is the LORD Almighty;
the whole earth is full of his glory.”
4 At the sound of their voices the doorposts and thresholds shook and the temple was filled with smoke.
5 “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the LORD Almighty.
Alexis 145:
No sir, Kerry and W would not have made the cut. If you re-read my post you will notice I stated “enlisted service.” Kerry and Bush went in as officers (more college boys).
Not that I dislike officers, but in my experience officers who start enlisted and become officers later, make far better leaders than the ROTC and West Pointers who go right into leading with zero practical experience. You need to know what it’s like to be the soldier before you can lead the soldier.
The Liberals/Marxists are firmly entrenched in the universities and cannot be removed. It is a lost cause. The only thing we can do is properly vaccinate our children against the idiocy of liberalism before they get to college.
Oh yeah, and buy ammo, a lot of ammo (get it? “lot”). I made a funny.
Worm:
Somehow, I doubt you were planning to vote for Daniel Inouye for President of the United States, even though he would definitely make your cut.
(oh heck that quote from Isaiah 6 is not quite right:-)
Charles/149; here’s one expressing a similar sentiment, it’s straight from “The Gathering Storm” (Winston Churchill, at a low point, chatting with his friend):
Churchill: “I’m in a ruck, I’ve drunk too deeply from the cup, I cannot spend, I cannot f**k, I’m down and out, I’m buggered up!”
Morton: *Laughs* “WHERE did that come from?”
Churchill: *Smiling* “It’s a translation from the Russian…Pushkin, I believe.”
Alexis:
Ok, you got me there. I’ve always chosen the lesser evil. Not sure I’m going to keep doing that though. If the Republicans don’t square themselves away by 2012, I’ll vote 3rd party or stay home. I’m tired of RINOs.
(this is –sorry –off-thread except) For those following that thing that makes small potatoes of such well-planned conspiracies as IPCC/Climategate, the Porkulus Bill, DeathCare, and so forth, here’s a very portentous and evocative weekend interview with Hank Greenberg.
Also, here is the part one (the part that throws so much light in conjunction with the Greenberg piece) of the Matt Tiabbi trilogy –the installment that, read (or re-read) side-by-side with the Greenberg interview –while bearing in mind the very recent revelations of emails proving Timothy Geithner’s vampire stalking and zombization of AIG (the only ‘bust out’ vehicle that could do what wanted, and for control of which they sent Elliot Spitzer in 2005) from behind his president’s desk at the New York Fed –adds so very much indeed to the slowly revealing picture of the set up of the crash of 2008.
Some of us will simply never ever get over the sheer unmitigated gall, the cosmic effrontery, of this NWO cabal stripping so many ordinary joes of their lifetime savings, as if they were no more than sacrificed pawns. i guess when Soros did it to the British workers’ Pound Sterling savings and got away with it clean, the only surprise left in the crackerjax box would have been had not the cabal done the same thing again a magnitude larger in SE Asia 1998 and then again ten magnitudes larger with the trilogy grand finale in New York with the Dollar and America, with the blowoff in 2008.
–recommend you save these two URLs as a matched pair of pistols –whenever you note someone groping toward understanding what was done and how, you’ll have these two URLs to get ‘em started.
Mongo @ 152
Yikes
As it has so far been engineered, pretty much amounts to this then.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1FaflUn4Co
Seems to me its about time for Obama to establish an office of Czar for Muslim Terror. As if. . . F
Mongo BL SM Some of us will simply never ever get over the sheer unmitigated gall…
Breath-taking hubris.
Utter contempt for god and country.
Charles might have a point in re Columbia and Walter Reed as the twin breeding grounds for the empty and disemboweled political euphoria that passes for leadership in Washington, but 2008 is all its own. As the Washington soap opera (Pelosi’s new air transport anyone??)** consumes the public’s attention span like some robotically contrived pacman, the sordid financial scandal has all the star appeal and staying power of Susan Boyle – Wow! and then gone.
I skimmed the Holman article and got through the first paragraph of Matt Taibbi’s article before losing my carefully reconstructed savoir faire. If this is the “new normal” for business as normal, my money – what little is left of it – is going back under the mattress.
Plan B is to find one of Whiskey’s drop-dead-rich alpha males who’s willing to settle for a woman of a certain age.
**Pelosi wasn’t happy with the small USAF C-20B jet, Gulfstream III, that comes with the Speaker’s job … Pelosi was aggravated that this little jet had to stop to refuel, so she ordered a Big Fat, 200-seat, USAF C-32, Boeing 757 jet that could get her back to California without stopping!
hykgoml/153; close, but no cigar. “And we’ll have fun fun fun ’til daddy takes the T-bird away” is what i was aiming, or lame-ing, at.
GL/155; i know –for something so abstract to be so turgid –to be sensible only barely and then through nearly-insensible sentences –is truly fiendish. The residue of the energy burn that built the skyscraper cities and set the continents against one another, summoned into a phalanx of rough beasts in the form of the most ordinary. how could it be –it’s just too crazy.
PS –it takes alpha females to make alpha males –requirement number one being adoration of the lady –not fear but love, hooray for the human race!
In a “shocking” turn of events, the Knickerbomber pleads “not guilty” to all charges.
On the radio today, Brian Suits said that the defendant was unresponsive, and that the plea of “not guilty” was entered for him.
152. Mongo BL Santamaria:
Buddy you know I read Hank Greenberg’s take. I find him to be a very sympathetic guy. and it looks to me like there’s a very simple explanation for what happened.
first of all solomon looks like they saw their interests as being more closely tied to to that of deutsche bank. that’s why they saw no problem in shafting aig. that is soloman did not see a seperate american interest in not creating a problem for aig that aig could not handle. rather they saw aig and and behind aig– the US as the worst case fall guy… ie privitazing profit and socializing liabilities.
but this was the case all the way up and down the value chain from soloman all the way down to the corner shakedown by acorn of their local bankers to get loans for people who couldn’t afford them.
ie the US tax payer would bear the burden. privatizing profit and socializing liabilities.
its also clear why they want to destroy aig.
its for the same reason a rapist will subsequently want to murder their victim…so that the victim can’t testify against them.
the other thing to note from the article is that the toxic assets are steadily becoming less toxic.
seperately it should be noted that most of the tarp money was paid back–all except for about 40 billion owed by aig and gm…and it looks like aig could pay their debts back if the federal government and soloman weren’t fixed on killing them.
finally it should be noted that it looks like deutsche bank will be tested this year as a couple countries in the EU like greece will go toward default.
charles/158; that’s going to be the CW i’m afraid. but there’s MUCH more to it than that. AIG was suborned because its pre eminence in the insurance mkt is what had made the play doable at all. Insurance –credit default swaps –was the only way to quickly crash the balance sheets of the big banks, the only way to lose more dollars than were at risk on the underlying assets (note mark-to-market had otherwise inexplicably been resuscitated after 70 years dormancy just in time for the 18 month rampage). the Taibbi article –the passages on Joe Cassano’s reign as Greenberg’s successor –is vital to understanding how the tempo of unpayable policy creation went parabolic in that short stretch of time, and how Cassano managed to keep the lid on Pandora’s box for juuuust long enough.
a good site to plumb the depths of the depravity is Karl Denninger’s Market Ticker –he keeps a gimlet eye on all this –and keeps his short daily reports easy to access. try to catch a few of the 5 minute reads on this topic.
The banksters needed a casino that would let them place bets against each other on who would go broke first. these bets to be technically legal had to be in the form of CDS, specifically deregulated from reporting regs in yr 2000 financial legislation authored by what is now Obama’s senior financial staff. AIG, as the underwriter was that casino. Only problem, CEO Hank Greenberg was not in one the plan to throw all caution to the winds and literally bust the place out, like the Bamboo Lounge in Goodfellas. The explosives have been put in place (fannie and freddie) and they want to light the fuse tp blow up in the summer of 08, to win for the democrat AND have that Dem come into office WITH a financial crisis that DID happen under the predeccesor! The crisis needed in order to ram thru on an EMERGENCY BASIS all the communist mafia legislation and takeovers and wholesale financial fiduciarily criminal apparent insanity we have since summer of 2008 been melting away in the heat of.
but back to the storyline, who can remove Greenberg and when to install one of the gang? 2005 is the the year, any earlier and Hank’s forces would have time to mount the counterattack we have been seeing over the last six months, and AIG itself would have to face scrutiny in time for that scrutiny to affect the election.
Any later than 2005 wouldn’t allow time to flood in and leverage out the trillion worth parabolic spike of liar and ninja loans.
How to dump Hank? Enter none other than NY AG (and Dem insider and soon to be Governor of NY and after that maybe someday president of the USA) Elliot Spitzer, who attacks Greenberg on what the courts are saying now, now that the docket has come round to the case (and long past the election as well as the brutal inital rush of stimulus and omnibus and all the other shakedowns, as well as the auto and financial industry takeovers), were bogus charges all along.
Spitzer, meanwhile, can’t be bum-rushed by reporters nor politicians, for he is now a private citizen, having stepped offstage for the nonce (looking BYW a mite studly with loving wife in tow) due to an optically oddly bloodless and squirm-free hooker scandal –the only sort of step-down scandal that is sorta red-blooded animally magnetic and involves no greedy grabbing of stolen property nor hey-that’s-going-too-far raping & murdering, and thus that under some familiar conditions voters might even, somewhat later, forgive and then reward.
Where’s Woodward and Bernstein these days? “Investigative reporters” should be having a field day. for starters, the gov’t knows who was doing the naked shorting in the september bank panic –why are they stonewalling even the names?
What we have here is a ‘man caused disaster’. Our intelligence has been crippled. What kept us safe for 7 years, has been ‘changed’ and not for the better. We have abandoned the hard parts of the ‘War on Terror, that Cannot Be Named’ and moved on to politically correct coddling of intelligence information and the terrorists themselves.
Napolitano, and the little people at TSA are not to blame. The buck stops at a higher paygrade.
This search for scapegoats and new machines is all misdirection.
We have been seeing a lot of that recently.
I’m one of those who has seen enough evidence to firmly put me in the camp of those believe that Obama is not even legally a citizen and likely was born in Kenya– (because his grandma says he was born there and the parliament said he was from Kenya.)
I was shocked to find that the global warming thing was not just bad science but a total scam.
Therefor–because they come from the same culture– I would not put it past the dems to have engineered the financial meltdown in the fall of 08 for the purposes of knocking off the pubbies.
You’d need a deep throat however to get that story out out from under the cover story that solomon bros was lethally avaricious/greedy, spitzer was vain and promiscuous and geitner was in over his head.
That may be what greenberg is talking about when he calls for real investigative reporting into the matter. but he’s not letting on.
Buddy@160: why are they stonewalling even the names?
Probably for the same reason we heard Jamie Dimon’s name floated as a possible presidential candidate a few months back.
I’m pretty sure it was a teaser, but in this environment, what’s the difference?
GL/163; well, he’s at least kicking back at the admin a little bit –but i see your point –it may be theater. meanwhile, the general counsel of defunct Lehman Bros has just been hired by thje AIG stub. Wow –either the Greenberg forces are arming up, or the guy –Russo –is being brought in from the cold. ‘Pay Czar’ Feinberg is reportedly working out the hush money –oops i mean, the compensation package.
Buddy – not to prolong an old thread but, the capital that is leaving this country via the large institutional investment houses is destroying Middle Americans – they have no investment vehicle for earning a return. The repertorial street buzz is that the capital flight is intentional to punish Obama and weaken him for 2012. I can’t speak to intent, but the result is there for anyone to observe. And JP Morgan is right in the middle of it. Greenberg is admittedly* looking* more and more like a victim while Cassano *looks* like a rube who got played. I am guessing they both got hoisted by their own petard.
I can’t speak to intent, but until I see (1) responsible behavior from Wall St** and (2) meaningful reform of Too Big to Fail out of Washington (Return of a Galss-Stegall separation would do it but instead looks like we will get a trade war with China), I will continue to view these players with nothing but the utmost contempt.
**BTW Dimon is wrong about “bankers” being sucker punched like a populist pinata. It’s not the regional commercial banking industry that tripped over their collective BSD’s. It was – and is – the Wall St investment community. Of which Dimon is part and parcel. Nothing rough hewn or ordinary about their rapacious and irresponsible professional behavior.
I will post this against my better judgment but attaching the bonus issue to the capital flight issue – these mofo’s make me livid – just livid (Complex Adaptive Systems my @ss). These people knew exactly what they were doing then and they know exactly what they are doing now. There I go again. Over and out until I calm down.
i hear ya, GL –me too. I’m just livid –and i stay that way, all the time, every freaking minute of every day. for starters, NOBODY likes being played for a sucker, and the scale of this thing, and the damage it’s causing –STILL causing, we can’t seem to stop it, is nightmarish in the extreme. It’s a war, we’re under attack and losing massively –yet the bloodletting is as yet still in the future so too few of us are taking it seriously.
My understanding is that the capital flight is the carry trade that is also floating the US stock market.
the carry trade take borrows US dollars at low interest rates and loans them out worldwide.
In the not too distant future US interest rates are going to rise. when they do the massive out flow of dollars is going to stop.
charles, never let it leave your mind that the asset price of a bond –not at auction but in the secondary ‘bond trading’ market which transacts daily seven or eight times as many dollars as the NYSE –moves inversely at a premium to changes in interest rates. So all those boughten ”long” (10 years and 30 years) bonds are going to be worth –as an asset trade –less (and depending on rate of change maybe FAR less, see Jimmy Carter’s bond market) than the purchase price paid for them, as soon as this apparently universally-expected rate rise begins in earnest. Upshot is that anticipation of futures rates is always to some extent currently priced in –which means expected higher rates lowers prices now, which raises yields, which the market calls ‘rates’ in the now. Note that all the bankster talk of higher rates ‘just around the corner’ acts to damp retail demand for bonds and thus keeps the buy-in for the carry traders lower than it might be under conditions of less general market fear of a rate rise. so something funny is going on –think of a dumbell where heavy inflation and heavy deflation (from contracting net aggregate income, from some asset prices notably houses, from the job mkt, etc) balance each other –heck of a way to be ‘stable’
In addition to Buddy’s more sophisticated (and more interesting) point about the bond trade being talked up by the “banksters” (that’s just solid gold), there is also the David Malpass December article in the WSJ: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704007804574573774057713530.html in which he parses apart the carry trade resulting from Fed policy as wasting precious growth capital in asset and commodity bubbles which undercut[s] global growth including of course domestic economic growth to mitigate post-recessionary unemployment, following a process in which [c]apital is being rationed not on price but on availability and connections. The government gets the most, foreigners second, Wall Street and big companies third, with not much left over.
Bottom line is that the so-called carry trade is not as innocent as its name and the resulting shocks from moderating the imbalance with interest rates alone can potentially create greater instability in global markets as asset bubbles further flatten international exchanges, not to even mention the wasted capital that could have been used to rebuild small business in this country.
It’s further capricious nastiness. Nothing has changed.
And this issue has nothing to do with “populism,” which is nothing but a label being used to discredit the criticism.
It’s a matter of right and wrong.
A failure of market discipline and regulatory oversight, as summarized by FDIC Chair Sheila Bair. I agree with that assessment – especially the “failure” part.
A “populist” perspective to the extent that one person’s garden variety economic “downturn” is another person’s destroyed portfolio.