“Obama looking at cooling air to fight warming”, says AP Science Writer Seth Borenstein. A climate adviser to the President is looking at a variety of schemes, including shooting sulfur into the atmosphere, to avoid Global Warming.
Tinkering with Earth’s climate to chill runaway global warming — a radical idea once dismissed out of hand — is being discussed by the White House as a potential emergency option, the president’s new science adviser said Wednesday.
That’s because global warming is happening so rapidly, John Holdren told The Associated Press in his first interview since being confirmed last month.
The concept of using technology to purposely cool the climate is called geoengineering. One option raised by Holdren and proposed by a Nobel Prize-winning scientist includes shooting pollution particles into the upper atmosphere to reflect the sun’s rays.
“We’re talking about all these issues in the White House,” Holdren said. “There’s a very vigorous process going on of discussing all the options for addressing the energy climate challenge.” Holdren said discussions include Cabinet officials and heads of sub-Cabinet level agencies, such as NASA and the Environmental Protection Agency. … The British Parliament has also discussed the idea. At an international meeting of climate scientists last month in Copenhagen, 15 talks dealt with different aspects of geoengineering. …
Holdren, a 1981 winner of a MacArthur Foundation “genius” grant, outlined these possible geoengineering options:
• Shooting sulfur particles (like those produced by power plants and volcanoes, for example) into the upper atmosphere, an idea that gained steam when it was proposed by Nobel laureate Paul Crutzen in 2006. It would be “basically mimicking the effect of volcanoes in screening out the incoming sunlight,” Holdren said.
• Creating artificial “trees” — giant towers that suck carbon dioxide out of the air and store it.
These guys are thinking of applying linear solutions to a complex problem they don’t even understand, to a system they can’t even model. Re-engineering the whole planet is the ultimate public works project; and is likely to cost untold sums. When the whole scheme comes a cropper, as it might, the unintended consequences may be incalculable. I happen think this is total madness, but that’s no reason it won’t happen. Maybe the crazier something is, the more likely it is to be embraced as conventional wisdom.
Back to the drawing board.
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Just out of curiosity, where does all that water that washes away that temple and monk come from?
Let’s see … pollute the upper atmosphere to protect what lies below? Madness, indeed–only a true genius would think of it.
‘Artificial trees’? … possibly cheaper to plant lots of real ones, along with the ones that are flourishing due to the increased CO2?
It’s reductio ad absurdum; a flawed premise carried to its logical conclusion.
Since the earth has been getting cooler since 1998, the combination of these programs and a couple of monsterous volcano eruptions might send the planet into an ice age within a few years.
Brilliant!
“I happen think this is total madness, but that’s no reason it won’t happen. Maybe the crazier something is, the more likely it is to be embraced as conventional wisdom.”
What’s more likely is that the hoi polloi will decide the easiest and cheapest way to solve Holdren’s “problem” would be get rid of…people like Holdren.
Just out of curiosity, where does all that water that washes away that temple and monk come from?
The massive ice machine that Holdren ordered from Manitowoc to cool the earth. When the rolling blackout hit Washington, all the ice melted. Pity.
Cheers.
L3
And what do the other nations on the planet think of this.
Didn’t we spend decades of litigation and legislation to prevent sulfur emissions from industrial activities?
Wouldn’t it be reasonable to practice terraforming ANOTHER planet first? Maybe one without life…
Sometimes I think the only function that a blogger can perform is to become a chronicler of the descent into insanity. The issues are no longer Right versus Left; Conservative versus Liberal. To some extent it is a battle between sanity and Looney Tunes. The word “chronicler” is apt because like one of those narrators of Gothic tales, the diarist is aware of a certain inevitability. The bell will ring from the sepulcher; the door will creak open revealing some sending from the night; and the Raven will speak at appointed time. It is all consistent, but only in a nightmare.
Nah.
The best thing to do is keep on trucking. Get some Turkish bread and cover it with some chopped bell peppers, mushrooms, onions and cheese and stick it under the grill. In the meantime chop some tomatoes and sautee it in peanut oil, then mix in a beaten egg to make an omelet. When both are ready, drag out some chilled red from the refrigerator and have dinner. Beats breathing sulfur.
Is it my imagination or are Nobel winners more likely to be batshit crazy than a control population?
Wait; I thought spewing pollution into the atmosphere caused global WARMING!!
Now, it will have the opposite effect because…
They control it!!
It’s our money!
Either way, crisis ensues!
Amazing. Not that many years ago the Left was frightening school kids and the gullible with non-stop horror stories of “Nuclear Winter.” Caused by, ummmm, bombs tossing lots of particulate matter into the atmosphere. Now we have a Lulubell Prize winner saying we’ll save the earth by, ummm, tossing lots of particulate matter into the atmosphere.
Crazy is as crazy does.
Oh please, these people are turning into a cartoon. They’re just like the demented, the stuff they do is so weird you couldn’t make it up. They way they can turn from “saving” the rain forests to sucking all the tree food out of the air without missing a beat (and all in the name of saving the earth, no less) is simply unbelievable.
Wretchard says:
The issues are no longer Right versus Left; Conservative versus Liberal.
——–
They never were Wretchard. It’s been Elites vs. Populists since well the time of the first Frankish Kings, at least. Generally speaking the populists in most countries had the upper hand from 1800 onwards to 1945, but afterwards technology and demographic change gave rise along with rising wealth to the elites.
This is an elite project to substitute “war” for “green” fantasies. It like Churchill’s Sawdust and Iceberg aircraft carriers, or other nutty ideas, will never get off the ground.
Obama is already imploding, that bit with him bowing to the Saudi King is now on Drudge and it’s deadly.
It shows to every American that Obama crawls and grovels before Saudi royalty. That he is a Muslim first and American not at all, given his past, his shady evasions, and his constant trumpeting of his Muslim background abroad.
Obama’s trust by the American people is collapsing as fast as AIG stock in September. And these elite ideas of utopian engineering are symptomatic of why he’s collapsing.
Obama was elected to be NOT Bush (Mission Accomplished!) and fix things (epic fail!) So he himself is in epic fail mode and this will fall into the sawdust iceberg aircraft carrier in the North Atlantic category.
#2 Gordon,
“It’s reductio ad absurdum; a flawed premise carried to its logical conclusion.”
Exactly what I was thinking. Obonga’s is a first-rate, second-rate mind. And the people who swill this garbage…
I remember the biggest shock for me decades ago when I was a university student was the astoundingly incurious, uncritical nature of the minds of most people. Most of my fellow students were good memorizers of pages of notes to regurgitate back on an exam, but rare was a student who could think critically and analytically.
Our president is but a front man for Soros and the oligarchs. They selected him well, and he performs according to their expectations. He even makes the adviser appointments they want. He delivers.
But the truly scary thing is what all of this says about the people of this nation.
Later in the same article this quack states that our ABM system can’t be used until it is 100 percent perfect. Shakespeare couldn’t make this stuff up. I can never decide if guys like this are just so insular that they can’t see the danger staring them in the face or is it some atavistic desire — either conscious or sub-conscious — to destroy civilization to the degree that they once again must deal with reality. Or it could be yet another redistribution of wealth and power scheme. They collect funding and create UN agencies and then never actually do anything.
Shooting sulfur into the atmosphere? According to the USGS, sulfur dioxide from volcanoes is a health hazard: Locally, sulfur dioxide gas can lead to acid rain and air pollution downwind from a volcano. Globally, large explosive eruptions that inject a tremendous volume of sulfur aerosols into the stratosphere can lead to lower surface temperatures and promote depletion of the Earth’s ozone layer.
http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/hazards/gas/index.php
So it looks as if these geniuses would be damaging the precious ozone layer–another of their environmental pets–in order to control air temperature. Shades of “we had to destroy the village in order to protect it.”
Good grief, at least my polar mirror idea is passive in nature. And reversible.
Polluting the atmosphere to create global cooling is not only irreversible, but it leads to the question of liability. Imagine if shooting sulphur (or propane) into the atmosphere works so well that the world’s agriculture suffers as a result. Imagine if the chemicals the Obama administration pumps into the atmosphere turn the sun red and the sky green. Imagine the liability!
I, for one, don’t particularly relish the prospect of massive food riots all over the planet because President Obama decided to flood the atmosphere with icebox chemicals. Should Barack Obama be held personally liable if agricultural crop yields go down 20% (or more!) due to his atmospheric chemical engineering? Messing with atmospheric chemistry is no joke, and the politics of atmospheric chemistry will likely become very messy especially if President Obama’s scheme works, and particularly if it works too well.
I am concerned that President Obama is acting altogether too much like “The Sorceror’s Apprentice”.
It’s okay. Everything’s cool. The world ends in 2012 anyway. I’m not sure the Maya predicted the date and time, but I hope it’s after the election.
Concerning all ideas of “geoengineering”, “atmospheric engineering”, “atmoengineering”, or any other word for intentionally altering the chemistry of the world’s atmosphere in order the “cool” it, I’d like to say this:
STOP!
Yes, I’m inclined to think industrial pollution and carbon dioxide do have an effect on the world’s climate. And yes, there is evidence for global dimming. Messing with atmospheric chemistry further would be a very bad idea; its effects would be far reaching and would likely be unexpected. My advice is: Don’t do it.
When you put yellow dye into water, it turns yellow. Then, in order to “counterbalance” the yellow dye, try putting in some blue dye. And then put in some red dye. You will notice the water, far from getting cleared up, gets murkier and murkier, eventually looking like a brownish-blackish goo. Adding icebox chemicals into the atmosphere doesn’t clean anything up; it just adds to the pollution.
So, my answer is NO! Just because we can doesn’t mean we should. Just because we can doesn’t mean we must. Just because we can doesn’t mean we will. (Not if I have anything to do with it!)
NO!
It’s been more than ten years since the end of the last warming period, which we now know was caused by a period of intense sunspot activity. Maybe deep ocean seismic eruptions also released enormous amounts of energy into the oceans, contributing to the trend.
We need more people in the science community articulately and in popular forums shouting the truth from the rooftops.
Barack Obama explains to Ann Coulter that at his command, the rains came.
http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/index/?cid=208672
Whooooeeeee! Every day I read this blog I become more convinced than ever of two things: 1. the people running the show in Washington really are the inmates running the asylum (but probably not as intelligent as most inmates), and 2. Wretchard and his commenters have a handle on this clown show and some really fun analyses of our descent into the maelstrom.
Yep, this guy’s proposing just what we’ve been warned against for the past 25 years, yep the President is in the grip of Soros and a few other angry bastards who need to be terminated pronto, and yep, the Mayans did predict the end of the world just around the time that Obama will pull it off. Masterful all around!
Really, about the only thing I can think to say is Whooooeeeee! We live in interesting times (damnit)! F
Walt
First, when a calendar comes to the end of a cycle, it just rolls over into the next cycle. In our Western society, every year 31 December is followed, not by the End of the World, but by 1 January. So 13.0.0.0.0 in the Mayan calendar will be followed by 0.0.0.0.1 – or good-ol’ 22 December 2012, with only a few shopping days left to Christmas.
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2008/04/15/2217547.htm?site=science/greatmomentsinscience&topic=space
Soros and his oligarchs pretty much own the Democratic Party now. The tentacles of the NGO’s and the think-tanks with his money reach into the DNC and deposit the money. They do his bidding.
That’s one reason why I will never vote for another Democrat ever again. Even ones who would like to be independent in their thinking – there is no way they can escape the master and his wishes. Look, the Jackasses hitched themselves to that wagon and they are now stuck with the driver.
Politico now has the report that the WH is denying that Obama bowed to the Saudi King! The WH official story is that O was simply grasping the shorter Saudi’s hand with BOTH of his – but look at the tape: when O bowed low at first you can plainly see his left hand down at his leg, only later as O rises does he reach forward with both hands…
So, who ya goin’ to believe: the WH (Obama) or your lyin’ eyes? I am absolutely dumbstruck – they think they can lie their way out of this.
Here’s the take away: It’s a little thing, clearly not worth lying about but like Clinton’s representation that he “didn’t inhale” it shows the utter dishonesty resident in the man. Later Clinton would try to foist the “I didn’t have… with that woman…”
Here we go again: O could attend Rev Wright’s Church for years and yet represent that he never heard the strident, toxic message that Wright preached… now the bow that wasn’t a bow… the man has no moral compass or at least not one I can figure out.
7. We call that therapeutic cooking. I became so frustrated with the news the other day that I worked on perfecting my savory pecan-thyme-Reggiano shortbread recipe.
Scientists know that this climate hysteria is bad science but they also know that it opens the funding spigot. This is what we get because adults who knew better saw a cash cow amble by and decided to grab some milk when they should have testified to have the Producers of “The Day After Tomorrow” locked up for child endangerment and later they should have helped send Al Gore away for fraud. Remember D.A.T., where the earth freezes? The intelligentsia ooze contempt for the Boobs in Levittown America. The problem is that when there is a need to justify the deference granted to professionals they fail miserably.
One of the disadvantages of being a patrician is that occasionally you’re obliged to act like one.
- Marcus Licinius Crassus in Spartacus
I left this as part of a comment a few threads back, but it might fit better here:
I believe the administration is full of smart people who feel their brain farts have a high intrinsic value. I think they want an equity market for their brain farts, so people can buy into them (whether they want to or not — it’s government!). And a Futures Market for future farts. That way if one brain fart doesn’t live up to its total potential, it can be hedged against another “counter fart…”
And here we have a classic hedge: giving planet earth sunshade in case the inhabitants don’t take to wind-up cars.
I’m looking forward to the movie 2012. Is it by the same folks who did that movie “The Day after Yesterday”? I thought the sequel would be “The Day before Tomorrow.”
LOTHM @ 23
I see you have the right name for that movie, “The Day After Yesterday.” Also, isn’t Spartacus suppose to be Spark at Us? Or is that a different movie?
Only way that this type of insanity will come to fruition is after they repeal the top two Amendments.
But then again I never would have thought that in a few years all of the federal budget will go to servicing interest on the national debt.
Terraforming by Dr. Mengele gone stark, raving Green. Terrafying.
hubris
–noun
excessive pride or self-confidence; arrogance.
Kinda reminds me of Morpheus in The Matrix:
“This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill – the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill – you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes.”
AND
Cypher: It means fasten your seat belt Dorothy, ’cause Kansas is going bye-bye.
That is how I felt on the 5th of November last year.
OR
Morpheus: We don’t know who struck first, us or them. But we do know it was us that scorched the sky. At the time, they were dependent on solar power. It was believed they would be unable to survive without an energy source as abundant as the sun.
The current crop of fools in DC are just so stupid, I have come to believe, it is really hard to fathom.
wretchard @ 7:
“Sometimes I think the only function that a blogger can perform is to become a chronicler of the descent into insanity. The issues are no longer Right versus Left; Conservative versus Liberal. To some extent it is a battle between sanity and Looney Tunes.”
Thanks! I LOL’ed! I would add batshit crazy Looney Tunes.
Alexis @ 15:
“Good grief, at least my polar mirror idea is passive in nature. And reversible.”
But just as batshit crazy. You do realize that do you not? Go do the math for area needed to be covered. Okay, whew!, in 17 you realize your folly, I hope.
hdgreene @ 24: (Fixed it for you)
“I believe the administration is full of functional morons who think they are smart people (because Mommy told them they were special and have never grown up to understand that she meant to her not to the world) who feel their brain farts have a high intrinsic value.”
Did I take the wrong pill before I went to work this morning and wake up in an alternate universe?
Just allow the Oil companies to use all that”EPA condemned” high sulfur oil that we have tons of for gas and diesel fuel and we are already there. What a bunch of maroons.
It says something that the press did not ridicule these clowns right on the spot.
It’s morons preaching to idiots.
It’s a real nail biter: will clown media die before America loses her political sanity.
The dream space inhabited by the obomanauts really makes you believe in zero thought logic.
stanlef…
The invocation of catalytic converters for diesel engines has dropped the Sulfur limit from 500 down to 15.
Reformulating distillates to that standard has lifted #2 diesel at least $.45 per gallon. That’s quite a tax increase to tilt at a windmill!
Perhaps the President was serious, not just over-indulging in rhetorical flourishes, when he said “I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that… this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal…” Perhaps he believes his own press releases.
Out of curiosity I googled the 2012 bit to learn about the movie. This took me to a site http://www.instituteforhumancontinuity.org where you can read some of the most bat-shit crazy stuff I’ve seen in a long time. I wonder if they really believe it or it is just a scam.
Maybe we’ll have less chance of getting skin cancer?
On the other hand we’ll have sulphur rain, killing all the crops, and we’ll all starve to death.
It’s all a plot by the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement.
More worthless schemes to waste taxpayer money to put the US further and further into debt so we have no choice but to slash our defense spending per Obama’s plan to destroy our superpower status.
After all, Obama believes so much of the world’s problems are the fault of the US, if he destroys us, then the next president won’t have to go around the world apologizing for us the way he feels he must.
“Shooting sulfur into the atmosphere”? I thought cow farts were the problem—?
Good grief.
Insanity, yes. Of course, insanity operates in it’s own internally consistent paradigm.
There are different sets of interim goals, all with the ultimate overall goal to remake society in the ideological framework of the Soros & Co clique.
One of the goal seems to be a destruction of any vestigies of the free market system. To wit:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123923644886203393.html
Every freakin day, it is something. By themselves, these items may seem not as dangerous, and more attributable to nincompoopism than a deliberate, drip mode corrosion. But taken as a whole, the pattern is apparent and the cumulative damage will be probably more extreme than our worst case scenarios.
They are taking us apart piece by piece.
It’s okay. Everything’s cool. The world ends in 2012 anyway.
I’m not worried– everyone knows the world can’t end until the Cubs win the World Series. Could be a long wait.
Insanity, yes. Of course, insanity operates in it’s own internally consistent paradigm.
There are different sets of interim goals, all with the ultimate overall goal to remake society in the ideological framework of the Soros & Co clique.
One of the goal seems to be a destruction of any vestigies of the free market system. To wit:
online.wsj.com/article/SB123923644886203393.html
Every freakin day, it is something. By themselves, these items may seem not as dangerous, and more attributable to nincompoopism than a deliberate, drip mode corrosion. But taken as a whole, the pattern is apparent and the cumulative damage will be probably more extreme than our worst case scenarios.
They are taking us apart piece by piece.
Neither Wretchard nor any of you intellectual cowards are willing to confront this basic scientific truth, even though this man of science emphasized the point by repeating it:
“ Twice in a half-hour interview, Holdren compared global warming to being in a car with bad brakes driving toward a cliff in the fog. ”
Only true deniers would ignore such blinding insight AND Global Guru Gore’s even more basic truth:
“The Earth has a Temperature!“
Dog Abuse
Doug,
Re: Dog Abuse, Putin sees that and goes to spin the big globe in the corner of his office and says “Where can we invade today?”
“ Twice in a half-hour interview, Holdren compared global warming to being in a car with bad brakes driving toward a cliff in the fog. ”
And since he is in the fog he doesn’t even know if he is at the base of the cliff or the top. And if he knows the brakes are bad whathell is he out driving around for, fog or cliff or not?
So his answer is to build a Bridge to Nowhere at the edge of the cliff and hope he hits it?
I say again. We need a law making the politicians, scientists and activists personally financially responsible for their actions. Just like people who drive cars with bad brakes around out in the fog.
Somehow I just knew that story about dog yoga would lead to Seattle. I have a co-worker who takes her dog to a canine psychologist, whatever that is. All of which reminds me of the Simpson’s episode where Lisa is carefully explaining something to Santa’s Little Helper and the cute little pooch just sits there hearing Blah-blah blah-blah blah… blah…blah-blah…
@35 Starling
I don’t know if you were serious or not, but I’ve actually been considering the same thing. I hope he’s just an ordinary political crook and not truly delusional, but it’s not unreasonable to wonder.
All of this is generated off the basic idea that these progressive people Know Better that the rest of humanity. Who better to guide us to salvation. “We Won”
If they can manage the American economy, easily the most complex non-biological system that ever existed, modifying the earth’s atmosphere will be easy. Economics is really hard; you have all these people who want to do whatever that is really against their best interest and they wont do what the progressives know to be best. Progressives have to go get a bunch of other people to make them do right. The atmosphere is easy, it operates off immutable physical laws. Al Gore understands those laws because he’s a lawyer (Isn’t he? He’s not</i)??!!) Well, never mind, we’ll get another.
Will somebody else go read Liberal Fascism?
&8*^%$!! tags.
Alexis writes: “I, for one, don’t particularly relish the prospect of massive food riots all over the planet because President Obama decided to flood the atmosphere with icebox chemicals.”
Bill Bryson’s “A Short History of Nearly Everything” has a chapter on ice ages that makes me quite happy to contemplate an age of moderate global warming. Bryson’s chapter on the likely eventual eruption of the volcano that is Yellowstone describes a scenario that would bring a neat end to any and all discussion, since there won’t be anything much to discuss following the event.
Is Tuvalu sinking because of rising oceans or subsiding land? Sorry, but that’s an inconvenient question. You can bet on hearing that we have to launch sulfur into the atmosphere in order to begin halting the rise of the oceans, thereby saving the Pacific islands.
Mary,
If BHO believes it, it is proof that BHO is an hysterical illiterate wrt Science.
If he’s just an ordinary political crook and not truly delusional, then I agree:
What’s the problem?
But what if BHO believes it, is not an ordinary political crook, but it fact is one who has learned Cloward, Pivens, and Alinsky’s techniques to enable himself to have the ability to transform his beliefs into actual fruition, whether in Law, or de-facto, awaiting codification,
we’ve got a problem.
I am here to proclaim:
“Houston,
America!
We’ve got a problem!“
Seeing as this is Holy Week in the Christian world ( not the enviro-knucklehead’s pagan world), a Bible quote is in order.
Psalm 106:39- “Thus they were defiled with their own works and went a whoring with their own inventions” Secular messiahs are tragic and comical in the political world, but criminally insane in the scientific community.
The first worst thing about this trial balloon is that it’s a desperate reaction to the propaganda of fear, spread for a couple of decades by the ‘global warming’ crowd, now in version 2.0 with ‘climate change’. It’s Chicken Little in spades, and blindly disregards a large number of scientists who are not part of the politicized AGW stampede and who argue against the whole concept.
The second worst thing about said trial balloon is the proposal itself – filling the upper atmosphere with some sulfur compound. The utterly vast expense. The side effects: Scientists say they worry about side effects that they don’t anticipate.
For hysterical government ministers proposing extreme measures in panic mode, tar and feathers.
Atossa
From shore to shore he bridged the Hellespont.
Ghost of Darius
What, could he chain the mighty Bosphorous?
Atossa
Even so, some god assisting his design.
Ghost of Darius
Some god of power to cloud his better sense.
Aeschylus “The Persians”
Here’s a take on Holdren by my favorite Czech scientist, Lubos Motl.
http://motls.blogspot.com/2009/04/holdren-i-will-return-us-to-age-of-smog.html
I like the picture of Holdren, too. You just have to look at the guy — his appearance shrieks moon-bat psycho.
16.
Liabilities?
Don’t worry. Just in case seeding top atmosphere with pollutants didn’t work, next NASA chief will be asking for more trillion dollar funding to build us a spaceship that transform itself into a giant maid, compelte with a vaccuum.
It’s all covered.
The reason this will never happen is because the whole “climate change” issue is not about doing things to actually cool the earth; it’s about separating you from your money so that self-anointed visionaries can use your money for the noble causes you’re too greedy to support.
It’s “scientists” like this that make me glad that I’m a lowly engineer.
If we purposely block out the sun’s rays, doesn’t that pretty much put the kibosh on solar power as an alternative energy source?
always right,
It’s been done, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VptOUWC-Itc
Bud #56:
Great quote, from the engineer and author James P. Hogan:
“There is no such thing as ‘science.’ There is only that which quickly becomes engineering and the rest, which simply is unproven speculation.”
That’s about the weirdest sexual fantasy I’ve heard, outside Japan, always right.
Are we to believe that satisfying your fevered fantasy in orbit (on the taxpayer’s dime) will cool the Globe?
Maybe it’s just me, but does this remind anyone of Highlander II?
”
• Creating artificial “trees” — giant towers that suck carbon dioxide out of the air and store it.
”
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Back in the Seventies, in Norman Sander’s Pioneering Ecology Course, we figured only Poli-Sci Majors would seriously propose giant fans to blow the smog from the LA Basin.
Today, professional sham artists in the employ of the Government “Seriously” propose far more outlandish “solutions” for the entire World.
@ 59. RWE
A great quote! (because it is the truth)
“There ain’t no rules around here.
We’re trying to accomplish something.”
- Thomas Edison
Public Information Office Publications Oversized Poster File, 1918- Cross-reference
Folder 9: General library promotion, social issues
“Home Sweet Home” (1990 (Bugs Bunny, environment; 2 copies)
“Information: the currency of democracy”
“Libraries, an American Value” (1999)
“Libraries are the second defense of freedom….”
Martin Luther King Jr. Mural (1996)
“The Constitution.. read it….”
“The Constitution.. There are real fireworks”
“There are no answers for a safe environment if there are no questions” (1990)
Puny humans have tried this “man-made volcano” gig before. Big-time.
US Atmospheric Test Series is a good example, as is last half-century history when USSR and USA combined lit hundreds, if not thousands of megatons of nuclear weapons in the atmosphere from the ’40′s onward.
Obviously, these giga-tonnage nuclear artillery barrages of our mutual childhood did diddly-squat to cool the world, to defend us against Al Gore’s ‘global warming’. Man-made Volcanoes, my …, mocks Mother Gaia against man’s puny dust pussies.
Actually I admire this. You have to go back to Caligula ordering the Roman legions to collect seashells so that he might claim a Triumph over Neptune in order to find an engineering project of this magnitude and value. ^_^
You could, I suppose, add Canute’s ordering the tide not to come in to this list – But the difference there is that Canute was deliberately indulging his sense of humor while consciously making a point to his courtiers about the limits to government power. ^^
It is prudent for Obama to recommend action, no matter how ludicrous, because if the result predicted actually happens, he can claim credit.
The fact is that the earth is cooling, contrary to the alarmists of global warming. If Obama shoots into Chicken Little’s falling sky, he can claim credit for the result even if he doesn’t hit it.
To the postmodernists, cause and effect is just a story anyway.
Gary H #64:
I wasn’t going to say that myself (that was a terrible movie, following a great one) but I am glad you did.
TwobyFour: Actually, it is worse than that. Historically, engineers have gone and done things and then “scientists” have come along later and tried to figure out how the hell that happened, since it should not have. As one of the great “experts” on electromagnetism said after a sleepless night thinking about Alexander Gram Bell’s new invention “Dammit! If Bell knew anything about electromagnetism he would never have been able to do what he did!”
I highly recommend Hogan’s book “Kicking the Sacred Cow.” It presents some known and generally widely held facts in a different light.
Just out of curiosity, where does all that water that washes away that temple and monk come from?
Silly wabbit. Them’s movie physics. The same kind what allows Keanu Reeves to outrun massive fireballs. And lets Tom Cruise be blown clear off an exploding helicopter in the Chunnel and land in perfect safety on a moving vehicle on the ground.
Movie physics. Suurrre we can drown the Himalayas in a tsunami. The only thing we CAN’T do is make fire melt steel … right Rosie?
not to worry, obama’s ego will shade us from that terrible sun or drive the economy into the ground so no usefull or carbon producing activity takes place. These morons wont be happy untill we are all living in caves.