Silence, ye unbeliever
Science is now saving the world from cow farts.
Yes you read that right. The Telegraph describes how an amazing discovery by Irish scientists may help Britain meet its Climate Change targets. Dr Lorraine Lillis has discovered that cows fart less when fed fish oil, especially those rich in Omega 3 acids. The news was enthusiastically greeted by “Jonathan Scurlock, an adviser at the National Farmers Union, said farmers were willing to modify feed in order to reduce emissions but at the moment there are few affordable options on the market and he encouraged more research into the area.”
Speaking at the Society for General Microbiology meeting in Harrogate, Dr Lorraine Lillis, one of the researchers, said the study could help the agriculture industry cut emissions. She said: “The fish oil affects the methane-producing bacteria in the rumen part of the cow’s gut, leading to reduced emissions.
“Understanding which microbial species are particularly influenced by changes in diet and relating them to methane production could bring about a more targeted approach to reducing methane emissions in animals.” The UK is committed to cutting greenhouse gases by 80 per cent by 2050.
CNN continues the story with a touching piety that must be read to be appreciated.
Lowering methane emissions is important for the environment, as the gas given off by farm animals is a major contributor to greenhouse gas levels. More than a third of all methane emissions, around 900 billion tonnes every year, are produced by methanogen bacteria that live in the digestive systems of cattle, sheep and goats. By volume, methane is 20 times more powerful at trapping solar energy than carbon dioxide making it a potent greenhouse gas.
Through some conjury the Greens have made the earth autoimmune. “Autoimmunity is the failure of an organism to recognize its own constituent parts as self, which results in an immune response against its own cells and tissues.” Humanity, all kinds of living creatures, volcanic activity and even water vapor evaporating from the oceans are now regarded as mortal threats to earth, as if they were never a part of it. Things have reached the stage where Chris Rapley
who formerly ran the British Antarctic Survey, said humanity was emitting the equivalent of 50 billion tons of CO2 into the atmosphere each year. “We have to cut this by 80%, and population growth is going to make that much harder,” he said. …
Many experts believe that, since Europeans and Americans have such a lopsided impact on the environment, the world would benefit more from reducing their populations than by making cuts in developing countries.
But in that case who will trawl for the fish from whence the fish oil must be extracted to keep the cows from farting? The answer may come from where we least expect. Oneworld.net reports, without the slightest awareness of irony, that subsistence farmers from the Third World are now being asked to teach Britons how to garden. All over what used to be called the civilized world, the intellectual lights are going out — and they are turning off the physical ones as well. The AP reports:
From an Antarctic research base and the Great Pyramids of Egypt, from the Colosseum in Rome to the Empire State building in New York, illuminated patches of the globe went dark Saturday night to highlight the threat of climate change. Time zone by time zone, nearly 4,000 cities and towns in 88 countries dimmed nonessential lights from 8:30 p.m. to 9:30 p.m.
Lenin once said, “Communism is Soviet power plus the electrification of the whole country.” After it was realized that Soviet Power couldn’t generate electricity, I think the Environmental Movement decided humanity could do away with the electricity. And maybe in the end, with humanity as well.






How about a Modern Lemming Movement for all these believers to simultaneously rid the earth of their own baleful presence?
CNN can’t recognize the potential for humour when it presents itself, a sure sign of stupidity.
How about a Modern Lemming Movement for all these believers to simultaneously rid the earth of their own baleful presence?
When reductions are called for it always applies to somebody else. Cutting back on human activity cannot, by definition, encompass the Struggle to Achieve Climate Change. Bearing in mind that even sick people breathe, at least before their demise, it is objectively more desirable to shut down a hospital during Earth Day than it is to impede the mighty propaganda machine of the Green Movement, which must always be broadcasting 24/7. The Guardian says Barack Obama will descend on Europe with an entourage of 500 persons.
You and me? We get fined if we put trash deemed recyclable in the wrong container. “We” are not the people “we” have been waiting for.
mercy –that’s not an entourage, that’s an invasion. What if 0 decides to fire Parliament? I’m sure he can find another disgraced pardoned ex-Clintonite to run “Great Britney” for him.
shesh it takes me a month to do a post. Might have the next one out in the next week or so. I havn’t posted the stuff below on my blog yet. I’m still working on the piece. Here’s an excerpt that speaks to Global Warming.
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Before I get started let me show you some serious eye candy I found this past month. The noise to signal ratio for the last couple of years on global warming is running about 100/1. Here’s a very good explanation of why. Take a look at this National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) graphic of mean temperatures in the USA. Notice the sudden drop off at the end?
Here’s also a NASA graph of the sunspot cycle along with NASA’s prediction for when the sunspot cycle will turn up again.. It shows we’re at a solar minimum. Here’s something more interesting. Here’s a graphic that shows how NASA’s prediction of the next upturn in the solar cycle has changed since 2004. It keeps being pushed further out into the future. That might help to explain the increasing cacophony in the global warming debate.
It may well turn out to be that carbon dioxide will turn out to be a case of correlation without causation in the global warming debate. Here is the Best Discussion of Global Warming that I’ve ever seen.
The whole world needs a cold dose of reality. Maybe a decade or two of famine and pestilence to help refocus. I took a business management class in the early 70′s and the issue of “gender eqaulity” came up in connection with the telephone company’s prejudice against women as line men. The woman professor teaching the class said that women could easily do the same job as men if the phone company would invest in boom trucks. A woman plus an $80,000 “cherry picker” was equal to a guy and a $150.00 pair of spikes. She did no see any problem with this. Likewise the proponents of “green technologies” don’t see any problem with a green job that requires a large subsidy from the government to equal a non green job.
Cows do 600B T of methane; People do 50B T of CO2. If Methane has 20X the heating capacity of CO2 and we can reduce cow output by 1/2 of 1% the Problem is Solved!
Didnt any of these people do 8th grade arithmetic?
What about the period when millions of bison roamed N America? Is their disappearance related to the near extinction of the BEANO plant?
If fish oil is the answer, how does that square with reducing the impact on the earth if we have to clean out all the oily fish to dose the cows?
It wasnt the arithmetic these people missed, it was the 8th grade sense of humor.
Interesting Wikipedia note. Lots of stuff about the GW effects of methane, nothing about the physical characteristics, Spec Heat, Standard Density, etc. or utility of it.
Little curiosity about the prevalence of free methane in the rest of the universe and the relationship of it to the existence of natural gas.
LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA
Unintended Consequence Corner.
Cows are not native fish eaters.
What happens to milk and meat from fishy cattle?
What happens when food and/ or other fish are diverted to cows? Who does not get fish protein in order to get beef protein?
How much fuel etc is needed to catch the fish to feed the cows?
What will we do to the ocean with even more over fishing?
To quote Herb “LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA”
Feeding rapeseed might help with cow farts then, and help their prostates as well.
Who knows how many premature cow deaths would be prevented.
Where is whiskey’s post on Cow Psychology?
No offense, couldn’t resist it, this is self parody Saturnalia time, except as michael hoskins pointed out, there are costs.
Actions have consequences.
herb, say you’re 16 and want the keys to the family car so you can go downtown and drink & carouse with your pals. You can’t say this to ma and pa, so you try something else. If that fails, you try something else again. And so on:
“Ma, Pa, I can make better grades next week if I run in to the library tonight and do some reading til oh 2 ayem.”
“No? Okay then, the car needs to be run –i looked at the oil and it needs to be circulated.”
“No? Okay then, the asphalt on the road network between here and downtown may start buckling tomorrow if it doesn’t get packed down tonight and it would be unfair if this family won’t help.”
“No? Okay then, this whole town is being humiliated the world over by having so many red Chevys –airplanes fly overhead and people look down and there’s never enough blue Fords like ours parked outside Joe’s saloon.”
“No? Okay then, the molecular structure of the alternate universe is manifesting in a column of martian holograms advancing over the trans siberian tundra and unless i jump in the car right NOW, well, there’s just no telling what might happen –we need to act NOW, your assignment from Earth Command is to gimme them damn car keys! uhh, please?”
Limbaugh reported that spies confirmed that Algore’s lights stayed on the other night!
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Spain’s ‘Universal Jurisdiction’ Power Play by Andrew C. McCarthy
As the U.S. government’s myriad intrusions radically transform our economy, few seem to notice the dangerous progress of the international Left’s assault on American sovereignty. Without firing a shot, transnational progressives are further along than the Soviet Union could ever have reasonably hoped to be, notwithstanding Lenin’s prescient understanding that we would willingly participate in our own demise. In the Left’s sights is the very concept of the American people’s right of self-defense.
The New York Times reports that a Spanish court is considering filing human-rights charges, and issuing arrest warrants, against former attorney general Alberto Gonzales and five other Bush administration officials.
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So who is the heroic “human-rights” activist behind the effort to criminalize the provision of legal advice to America’s commander-in-chief? The complaint was filed by one Gonzalo Boye, whom the New York Times charitably describes as a “Madrid lawyer.” Unmentioned is how Boye came to be a Madrid lawyer. He obtained his law degree in a Spanish prison. According to reports in the Spanish press (read here), Boye, a Chilean, was a member of the terrorist Revolutionary Left Movement (MIR) when, in collusion with the ETA, Spain’s Marxist-Leninist Basque terrorist outfit, he participated in the abduction of a Spanish businessman, Emiliano Revilla.
PAGEFor 249 days in 1988, from Revilla’s seizure at gunpoint until his family paid the multi-million-dollar ransom, the social-justice activists of MIR and ETA stashed their hostage in a cell that, as Revilla has recounted, measured 2 meters long, 1 meter wide, and 1.8 meters high. Apparently, he was not given Miranda warnings, access to counsel, or a date certain for his release. Boye was ultimately prosecuted and sentenced to ten years in prison, during which time he obtained his law degree from something called the National University of Distance Education.
Like many another radical, Boye discovered he could get a lot further with a sheepskin. Besides defending ETA operatives in court, he has become a minor celebrity among the international Left’s lawfare trailblazers. He was one of the “human rights lawyers” instrumental in Spain’s universal-jurisdiction effort to prosecute his nemesis, Augusto Pinochet, for crimes committed in Chile — bringing his complaint to investigative judge and would-be post-sovereign emperor Baltasar Garzón, who succeeded for a time in having the former strongman detained in England.
#ad#More recently, Boye has worked with Palestinian “human rights activists” to bring suit — in Spain, of course — against Israel’s former defense minister, and six others in his chain of command, for 2002 military operations against terrorists in Gaza — which, in the Madrid lawyer’s considered opinion, were “disproportionate.” And Haaretz reports that Boye was back in Gaza earlier this year, consulting with Hamas in anticipation of bringing war-crimes charges against Israel for its defensive operations in a war necessitated by the thousands of missiles Hamas fired at Israeli civilians.
Junior should win the alternative energy contest at the local high school by tapping the local herd with garden hoses, snaking them to a feed tank, and refining them for the family car. Maybe Dad and Junior can contribute some H₂SO₄ into the mix for the extra humorous volatiles.
Its the Beano Plant!!! We need to get out and find some fossilized beano plants and resurrect their DNA and clone them to cross their DNA to grass (or corn) and make cowfeed that kills farts. But thats frankenfood!! ewwwww!
But wait! Dear Leader said we cannot clone things because that science conflicts with politics (or was it morality?) [I get so wrapped in the spectacle.........]
Head throbbing, throbbing,
Omega-3 ‘fish’ oil, found most potent and most abundent in krill.
Yes. All those marine species depending on krill up the food chain.
I can see it coming. “Overharvesting krill led to the extinction of all major marine life form”.
These “Men-Made” Nuts will be the end of all life forms (except, maybe, single microorganisms) on earth.
Maybe a few married microorganisms too.
Same sex, of course.
Okay, so if cow farts are such a threat to the environment, and fish oil cures that problem then the required change in policy is obvious:
EAT WHALES!
Anyone know where I can buy an “Eat the Whales” T-shirt?
Damn! Doug, you are quick.
LOL.
Let’s see now. George Dubya used to hop aboard AF1 and have chow in a Baghdad mess hall every now and then.
Did a tailhook landing once too as I recall.
And Obama has to have all that additional crap just to visit ENGLAND??????
Looks like global warming has shrunk somebody’s testicular appendages.
Doug,
Regarding the report in National Review by A. McCarthy on Spain’s grab for “Universal Jurisdiction,” Israel needs to introduce Spain to the concept of State Responsibility. If Spain permits private citizens to abuse the judicial power then she creates an obligation to protect the external party and make restitution. Failure to do so could constitute a casus belli and justify Israeli responses to defend itself. The question arises as to whether the use of Spain’s judicial authorities, with the implied right to resort to the police power or the armed forces to execute its judgements, could be considered an “armed attack” within the meaning of article 51 of the United Nations Charter. The United States should take a similarly dim view of such threats to Mr Bush (43) and officers of his administration. Bill Clinton responded to a threat against Bush (41) by Saddam Hussein’s agents with violence.
So, let me get this straight…
The sinking of Britain’s oil tankers during WW2 wasn’t war, it was an environmental issue.
And the bombing of London was just a catastrophic release of carbon emissions.
And the Chicago Fire was an ecological disaster, those rendered homeless be damned!
God help us.
This is clinicaly insane. Even if catastrophic warming were happening & humanity a significant cause cows & other grass eaters have been with us since before the time of mammoths.
In any case termites produce more methane than cows & far more than humans. I will be interested to see what action Gore & Miliband will be taking to prevent termite farts.
RWE, would it be okay in Japanese?
Feed a cow a fish, and it won’t fart for a day. Teach a cow to fish, and it will never be gaseous again.
I still have my “Nuke the Whales” tee shirt.
Roy,
I had one of those, via National Lampoon.
I can’t imagine how horrible meat from a cow that was fed fish oil would taste. Then again, since many of the same people that push the global warming hoax also believe we shouldn’t kill animals for food, that may be the point.
In a triumphant society brave men use their creativity to wrest a good living from catching fish and reward themselves by eating steak.
In a declining society women live on seaweed and feed sushi to a declining number of cows.
I believe, I believe…I need a witness
Here’s what really kills ya.
Q: I’ve heard that cardiovascular exercise can prolong life; is this true?
A: Your heart is only good for so many beats, and that’s it… don’t waste them on exercise. Everything wears out eventually. Speeding up your heart will not make you live longer; that’s like saying you can extend the life of your car by driving it faster. Want to live longer? Take a nap.
Q: Should I cut down on meat and eat more fruits and vegetables?
A: You must grasp logistical efficiencies. What does a cow eat? Hay and corn. And what are these? Vegetables. So a steak is nothing more than an efficient mechanism of delivering vegetables to your system. Need grain? Eat chicken. Beef is also a good source of field grass (green leafy vegetable). And a pork chop can give you 100% of your recommended daily allowance of vegetable products.
Q: Should I reduce my alcohol intake?
A: No, not at all. Wine is made from fruit. Brandy is distilled wine, that means they take the water out of the fruity bit so you get even more of the goodness that way. Beer is also made out of grain. Bottoms up!
Q: How can I calculate my body/fat ratio?
A: Well, if you have a body and you have fat, your ratio is one to one. If you have two bodies, your ratio is two to one, etc.
Q: What are some of the advantages of participating in a regular exercise program?
A: Can’t think of a single one, sorry. My philosophy is: No Pain…Good!
Q: Aren’t fried foods bad for you?
A: YOU’RE NOT LISTENING!!! Foods are fried these days in vegetable oil. In fact, they’re permeated in it. How could getting more vegetables be bad for you?
Q: Will sit-ups help prevent me from getting a little soft around the middle?
A: Definitely not! When you exercise a muscle, it gets bigger. You should only be doing sit-ups if you want a bigger stomach.
Q: Is chocolate bad for me?
A: Are you crazy? HELLO Cocoa beans! Another vegetable!!! It’s the best feel-good food around!
Q: Is swimming good for your figure?
‘If swimming is good for your figure, explain whales to me.
Q: Is getting in-shape important for my lifestyle?
A: Hey! ‘Round’ is a shape!
Well, I hope this has cleared up any misconceptions you may have had about food and diets.
And remember:
‘Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways – Chardonnay in one hand – chocolate in the other – body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming ‘WOO HOO, What a Ride!!!’
AND…
For those of you who watch what you eat, here’s the final word on nutrition and health. It’s a relief to know the truth after all those conflicting nutritional studies..
1. The Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
2. The Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans..
3. The Chinese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
4. The Italians drink a lot of red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
5. The Germans drink a lot of beers and eat lots of sausages and fats and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
So fart away.
Habu, too funny. I really needed those laughs.
Uh-hum, words of wisdom.
I’ll keep those enshrined.
Where is PETA when we really need them? I remember a couple of years ago some school in (I think) Texas wanted to have a fund raiser. They proposed dividing a pasture into numbered squares and putting a cow in the pasture. They’d then sell tickets corresponding to each square. Whoever bought the ticket to the square that ended up with the most cow turds after a couple of days would win. PETA came out bitterly that this was humiliating to the cow and must be stopped.
Greens and environmentalists have an unattractive habit of describing humankind as “a cancer on the planet”.
It’s closer to the truth to say that greens and environmentalists are a spiritual and intellectual cancer on an otherwise vibrant and energetic civilization.
The real question is
Do Japanese, Mexicans, Chinese, Italians, and Germans fart less than Americans?
Speaking of autoimmunity, I see the O Administration as this country’s over-active and under-discriminating immune system. Instead of upholding its proper role of defending us from foreign and internally developed pathologies, O’s regime is more interested in attacking and disabling many, many essential “bodily” organs and processes that our society has to have to survive in good health and to prosper. We’re being progressively crippled in the name of being protected and saved.
I am in my 3rd year of undergraduate studies at a private university. This past year I took an environmental science class to diversify my business education. The class was taught by the head of the environmental science department and covered many of the environmental issues we face today (pollution, global warming, drilling for oil, endangered species, etc.).
Like many classes, our exams were “bluebook” essays. This post reminded me of a particular essay question (which I am going to paraphrase): “What do you perceive as the greatest contributor to global warming? What do you think is the best solution to the problem?”
In my paper I also identified cattle as being the greatest contributor to greenhouse gases, and pointed out that we have already missed the solution/magic pill to the greenhouse effect: Mad Cow disease.
Our final paper was a response to the questions: “What are several factors that all environmental problems have in common? Is there a solution? Can one think globally, and act locally?”
I wrote (sincere in tone, with tongue-in-cheek) that humans are the cause of all environmental issues facing the world. The only “magic bullet” solution to modern environmental issues is the annihilation of the human race, and the logical response to thinking globally while acting locally is suicide.
I received an “A” in the class.
Radical environmentalism is absurd.
Life, since you asked, here it is.
Wretchard I’m shocked you don’t realize what is going on.
When Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy once went to her private (!!!) chapel she was curious who all the cars in the parking lot belonged to. When she was informed it was her servants, she asked bitterly, “What’s the Point of Being Rich if Ordinary People Have Nice Things Too?” (forgive the “german” capitalization, but this really should be emphasized).
Throughout American (and indeed Western) history the struggle between the elites and threats of up and comers, have characterized social tensions and politics.
This Green crap is no different than the hatred the Landed Gentry felt in Austen’s day for the up and coming Merchant classes, who they rightly perceived as social, economic, cultural, and political threats.
Thus, there is a broad movement among elites to crush those who pose from below competitive threats. Along with this movement is a set of Post-Christian superstitions and magical beliefs, among them the “purity” and moral superiority of impoverished and failed Third World cultures.
What makes things different politically than in Austen’s day, or Andrew Jackson’s, is that demographics and particularly, technology, have allowed WOMEN to form the critical swing block that give power to the elites seeking to crush those who are threats below them on the ladder.
Look at who believes this magical, pseudo-science nonsense, about Global Warming and Green junk? Women, for the most part, just as with Spiritualism, or any other nutty belief. Oh sure there’s men around, as con men (Gore) or true believer priests, or what have you. But the core demographic support for this idiocy comes from Women.
Think about it: if you are a reasonably attractive, independent young woman, what system would you like to see?
A system that rewards achievement, results, and competence regardless to looks, social status, “correct” opinions on music, fashion, food, and politics ….
Or a system that is closed, rigid, aristocratic, with space for pretty young women who can rise in the “Court” or “Courts” of powerful “barons” and allow THEM but not icky awful nerdy male competitors to rise in “having nice things too.”
The sea change (it’s really remarkable how women’s attitudes changed, and most older people cannot see it, thinking women’s views now are the same when they grew up) in women is the result of widespread, cheap, and reliable contraception, greatly improved earnings for women, and near total anonymity in urban professional settings.
Bottom line: this sort of “Green Lunacy” has ALWAYS been present in the West, from the Oneida Communes to various Shaker sects, within the Joseph Smith Mormons, Thoreau, the Romantics, and indeed during Austen’s day as part of the rural Gentry’s hatred of the urban commercial classes.
What HAS CHANGED is how women have swung, almost completely, to supporting this because they do not need/want most men, the nuclear family being DEAD DEAD DEAD.
Postscript: this “cultural lag” is going to provoke HUGE, basic spoils fights among men and women over resources, in a time of deep and lasting global recession. “Green lunacy” is the affliction of a wealthy society where one group (in this case women) sides with the reactionary, stasis-driven aristocratic elite. Taking a whole bunch of people, who had never known anything but rising expectations, and now making them poor with ever-decreasing expectations, is a “pre-Revolutionary” state, and one likely to produce social chaos and revolution as old institutions AND BELIEFS lose legitimacy.
Among those beliefs: Liberal “polite society” consensus of Post-Christian magical thinking, “green” lunacy, Political Correctness, Multiculturalism, and stasis orientation.
The eventual fall-out is likely to be some sort of growth=good mantra, requirement for ever-advancing technology, and brutal spoils-system politics.
Doug @13
There is one more option we can consider, vis-a-vis what Boye and his fellow Marxist international lawyers are doing. After 2012, when Obama is bye-bye we can tell these foreign courts and their lawyers to stick it where the sun don’t shine. Any hostile actions taken against our citizens by their kangaroo courts will be met with strong actions on our part.
whiskey,
I knew you could do it. When those pretty young social climbers get old do they become the Cows?
Whiskey,
Hey! Don’t you be blaming chicks for this. Last I looked Al Gore, Ralph Nader and the Club of Rome were pretty much all guys. Ugly and dumb guys at that. And from what I’ve seen guys make up more than half the Ecofreak Nutroots as well. While the point you make about dudes with more inherited money than brains being envious of those with talent is spot on, I would argue that what makes things different for the moment is that after 232 years we are finally reaching the point where an oligarchy has become able to, for the moment, call upon the powers of the government to try to keep them established. Maybe this will work out for them but probably not. I doubt the American people are foolish enough to let it happen. ^_^
And since these poor Leftist dweebs would not fear up and comers were they not talentless themselves they will merely find themselves a speedbump on the Road to Interplanetary Civilization at the end of the day since they and theirs are now in the process of becoming the perfect embodiement of the Peter Principle. Jimmy Carter discredited the Democrats for 26 years. Any bets as to for how long Mr. Obama and company will discredit the Democrats this time? ^_~
34. always right:
The real question is
Do Japanese, Mexicans, Chinese, Italians, and Germans fart less than Americans?
Actually they don’t “fart” at all. They expel a flatus, which meets all current PC codes and I believe was part of the Kyoto Protocols.
Charles said:
“Here’s also a NASA graph of the sunspot cycle along with NASA’s prediction for when the sunspot cycle will turn up again.”
That chart only shows a part of the solar cycle. The link below shows a longer trend:
http://science.msfc.nasa.gov/ssl/pad/solar/images/bfly.gif
Charles also said:
“It may well turn out to be that carbon dioxide will turn out to be a case of correlation without causation in the global warming debate.”
Who can say? As far as I can tell the science is ambiguous. There’s nothing there to serve for a coherent political decision. Of course, moonbats aren’t really concerned about making coherent decisions. It’s all about listening to the voices in their heads…
mep @ 36,
In my last semester of law school, I took a class called “Environmental Policy” taught by a semi-legendary legal talent whose best years were behind him. In his later years he had become single minded, determined to save the earth from the scourge of man.
In fairness to him, I believe he was sincere. He was fairly evenhanded in his recognition that most of his remedies necessarily conflicted with private property rights and were only capable of implementation by an all-powerful centralized State. Many environmentalists do not give these points a second thought, so I will tip my hat to him.
But anyways, the reading material and the class discussions were such complete and utter bullshit that I couldn’t take the class seriously. I don’t say that lightly, as I’m willing to give almost anything an intellectual try. In all our papers, however, I couldn’t help but write “tongue in cheek” and wonder if he would notice how I was mocking our class material. Unfortunately for me, I think he did notice and my grade was one of the lowest in the class…
I came away from the class with a greater respect for conservation efforts, but also the understanding that the modern environmental movement is intellectually bankrupt.
“kyoto open window please, habu-san, fot-fot make a me protocol!”
“34. always right:
The real question is
Do Japanese, Mexicans, Chinese, Italians, and Germans fart less than Americans?”
I see a government research grant in your future.
Wrethcards ended his thread with;
Lenin once said, “Communism is Soviet power plus the electrification of the whole country.” After it was realized that Soviet Power couldn’t generate electricity, I think the Environmental Movement decided humanity could do away with the electricity. And maybe in the end, with humanity as well.
Today Mark Steyn, a very gifted observer of mankind and a terrific writer offer this in part of his editorial.
“Most Americans don’t yet grasp the scale of the Obama project. The naysayers complain, oh, it’s another Jimmy Carter, or it’s the new New Deal, or it’s LBJ’s Great Society applied to health care… You should be so lucky. Forget these parochial nickel’n’dime comparisons. It’s all those multiplied a gazillionfold and nuclearized – or Europeanized, which is less dramatic but ultimately more lethal….continuing Steyn adds;
“Fortunately for what’s left of America’s private sector, “the Welsh model” doesn’t have quite the same beguiling euphony as “the Swedish model”. But, even so, if Scandinavia really is the natural condition of an advanced democracy, then we’re all doomed. And by “doomed” I’m not merely making the usual overheated rhetorical flourish in an attempt to persuade you to stick through the rather dry statistics in the next paragraph, but rather projecting total societal collapse and global conflagration, and all sooner than you think.
It is a tocsin and worth reading.
http://tinyurl.com/d2dwnb
buckets, it only appears bankrupt –lunacy is the necessary cover for the ongoing effort to de-energize America. Of course the algae never catch on, but the Central Planners sho do.
43. buddy larsen:
Were you protocolic as a child?
Fish oil goes rancid, quickly. The only way to administer it evenly across the herd and keep it consistently active in the cattle is to add the oil to the grain mixture (it won’t work in a salt lick) that supplements any grass/hay they’re fed. How do the politicians propose to refrigerate countless tons of feed? The standard paper feed sacks will absorb the oil and weaken, so they won’t work — everyone will have to switch to plastic feed bags, which will have a condensation problem… The logistics are mind-boggling, and that doesn’t even touch on the fact that krill and fish oil production is expensive, in most facilities it lacks decent quality control, and there is an additional vitamin A toxicity issue… There are so many things wrong with this it’s absurd. I’ll join Herb and Mr. Hoskins, “La la la la la!”
Anthony’s wattsupwiththat.com is an excellent AGW skeptic’s blog.
habu, yup –it come from being borned in de bottoms along de Tombigbee River in soufwes Alabania not too fur from de Mississip.
Wait a minute, I thought PETA wanted us to cut down on fish consumption because fish are really sea kittens.
(http://www.peta.org/sea_kittens/ for the doubters among us)
So we’re going to feed sea kitten oil to cattle to control bovine flatulence? I think it’s time for teleprompter rationing to curtail BHO’s verbal diarrhea.
funny Agriculture was the older “science” that also permissed the humanity moral developpement, and a laborantine want to teach to the paysans what their cattle should eat, umm they have more than 10 millenariums of experience, even through climate catastophes, this world is really becoming upside down !
my father was agricultor and a wise man
Marie Claude, i really enjoy your posts –what your English lacks in the common-usage vernacular, it recovers ten times in beautifully expressive charm.
This idea that Humanity is a virus, infecting the planet Earth, William Burroughs is a good one to google on this subject. Quite amusing, expressed in too much detail for even Al Gore, I’m afraid.
If humanity is the latest version of the virus that killed the world, wouldn’t the best innoculation be to wipe out carbon-based lifeforms altogether, and go back to the heavenly time when Earth was a molten ball of lava?
The beating heart of environmentalism is racism and misanthropy. It is a perverted and unkind religion like the one the Aztecs practiced.
Environmentalism pretends to be a political theory, but, because it repudiates Cicero’s maxim, which is also the epigraph of Locke’s “Two Treatises of Civil Government”, “Salus Populi Suprema Lex Esto”*, in favor of the non-human world, it cannot be political in any way. It is a mere expression of contempt towards men. As Virginia Postrel commented years ago, at least when they were Marxists, they favored some part of humanity.
Environmentalism and its practitioners must be exposed, mocked and driven from the public arena.
*the welfare of the people is the highest law.
I’m a Flatulent-American, and I doubt anyone can outfart me. But I’d be concerned about some Chinese gent who got into the Tsing-Tao after a healthy helping of garlic pork and rice–I’d have to counter with pickled eggs, chili with beans and warm Pabst. That’s the equivalent of going nuclear….
If humanity is the latest version of the virus that killed the world, wouldn’t the best innoculation be to wipe out carbon-based lifeforms altogether, and go back to the heavenly time when Earth was a molten ball of lava?
If you suppose that the universe tends to develop more and more complexity, a complexity which includes life, then in deep time it will try again and again, despite the efforts of the environmentalists. If there is an infinitude of universes, then eventually life will succeed over death, or the Greens, though perhaps they come to the same thing.
Parenthetically, it may be interesting to point out that Christianity has wrongly been described as a “Western” religion. It’s origins and roots are in Israel and the surrounding region. The only indigenous world religion that Europe ever produced was Marxism, and its successor cult, radical environmentalism; and though it styles itself as secular it is as fundamentalist as they come. One could argue that the great conflicts of the 20th century were wars of religion; fights against the great totalitarianisms. The 21st century has opened on the same note, not just with respect to radical Islam, but with the successor cults of the 20th century death gods.
Tony nailed it.
The Israelite Yahweh is the Giver of life. All who come to know Him honor His life-loving character.
The death cults of Islam, homosexuality and these Green monsters stand in direct contrast.
Environmentalists are not all bad:
The Burning River
Fires plagued the Cuyahoga River beginning in 1936 when a spark from a blow torch ignited floating debris and oils. The largest river fire in 1952 caused over $1 million in damage to boats and a riverfront office building.[7] Fires erupted on the river several more times before June 22, 1969, when a river fire captured the attention of Time magazine, which described the Cuyahoga as the river that “oozes rather than flows” and in which a person “does not drown but decays.”[8]
Environmentalists aren’t bad. Nor are humanitarians or people who are concerned about preventing cruelty to animals or the oppression of people. But I think the worst thing the ideologues have ever done is hijack what are really good causes in order to turn them to bad ends.
Actually, I cannot see “environmentalism” as an “ism”. Conservation and care should be indistinguishable from rational behavior. It is not an activity which escapes the bounds of reason. And much of the cleanliness we observe has been created by market forces, as people create a demand for clean toilets, air and safe things. The worst examples of pollution are to be found in command economies. Europe got a tremendous boost in its carbon ratings from the fall of the former Soviet economy. Yet somehow there’s this idea that “socialism” is environmentally clean. Anyone who has read the Marxist classics must remember the exhortation to “conquer nature”, and they were subsequently put into practice in the Bratsk Station, Magnetogorsk etc. The Great Leap Forward actually promoted backyard steel mills. But this is conveniently forgotten.
Tony,
As they say in Chicago, “It can be arranged.”
Twice I have linked to the New Year’s Speech from Vaclav Havel on the spiritual and environmental devastation wrought by Communism. That is enough to think that all can take it as a given.
wretchard,
God or mathematics might ensure that sentient life returns to this corner of the universe even after a catastrophe but that may not include another Mozart. All things are not equal. What we happy few have built and cherished over the last 3,000 years is worth preserving. Some things are worth fighting for.
I must refer again to “Liberal Fascism”- Environmentalism joins at least two of Goldberg’s tenets: Elevation of an elite to the control of the polis and a Crisis to motivate the project. More fundamentally, the gaia movement is a ready collective pagan solution to the problem of Christianity and its reliance on the salvation of the individual. With the worship of gaia and the subordination of the individual to the goal of the collective in correcting the impact of Man on the Earth.
Go read the book. It explains a lot of mysteries of the 20th Century
Excellent point, wretchard. I think most of us have known what you just described, but we have forgotten it in the maelstrom of information overload and so many articles written about environmental battles and causes. Socialist societies are among the most destructive of the environment.
Why don’t the socialist environmentalists not see this? I always thought that thinking Marxists would be conscious of the ever-present “contradictions” in reality. Meaning that the presence of contradictions itself indicates that socialism is not being perfectly realized. In their utopia, there are no contradictions.
My Unca Jerry once said to me, “Bob, ever since the doc put me on fish oil, I never seem to fart anymore.” I had no idea.
bob,
That is in The Idiot’s Guide to being an Embarrassing Uncle. My copy is laying around here someplace.
Lotm, pick up a copy of The Idiot’s Guide to Where My Idiot’s Guide Is –it’ll help you find that lost book.
Re: “humanity was emitting the equivalent of 50 billion tons of CO2 into the atmosphere each year”. Considering 6bil. humans this is roughly 8 tons of CO2 per every person per year. It is ~22kg per day. And one person can eat less than 1kg/day. Something is wrong here. Are these Pelosi numbers?
Wretchard says:
Actually, I cannot see “environmentalism” as an “ism”. Conservation and care should be indistinguishable from rational behavior. It is not an activity which escapes the bounds of reason. And much of the cleanliness we observe has been created by market forces,….
programmer surmises:
For what it is worth, I agree. What puzzles me is how we (the conservative good guys) lost the environmentalists to the opposition. As you clearly point out, conservation is rational. In fact, much of the conservation movement was founded and pushed forward by Teddy Roosevelt, a progressive Republican. A lot of environmental concerns just make good common sense, and I have always felt that the conservative movement is the party of common sense. Actually, I think a lot of the attitude on the part of conservatives that drives otherwise possible coalition partners away is a “Don’t tread on me!” mindset. We conservatives don’t like feeling we are being “bounded” by any group. So we don’t go to the meetings. We’re probably going to have to change somewhat because the liberals love meetings, oh man, do they love meetings and so they scoop up the special interest groups.
Liberals love meetings. Ain’t that the truth. And the good guys basically like to be left alone. Finally, after years of torment, the local good guys, who couldn’t get anybody to run against the local busybodies for years, got up a coalition, a slate of candidates, did a little advertising, and wiped the crazies off the map. This happened in a college town, Moscow, Idaho. We called ourselves The Greater Moscow Alliance All of our candidates won, a clean sweep.
You can do it too!
What puzzles me is how we (the conservative good guys) lost the environmentalists to the opposition
It’s “an” opposition, but it sure ain’t the traditional left. Otherwise it would pause on the question of the third world, which tho making gains in most areas most of the time, is still woefully short of the industrial depth that holds off the wolf with more than just whatever’s in hand.
Yet the rad enviroman doesn’t go there –not with anything more than a stock rhetorical response, on prompt. Better that third worlders learn to appreciate being “picturesque” and “interesting” –and if a litle short on the thousand goods and services western greenie has loaded himself up with and internalized prior to becoming a theoretical ascetic, then well, that must be the way the cookie crumbles, dreadfully sorry, old man, tut tut, wot a shame, say, would you look at the time, i really must run along….
bob,
Your link brought up a Google malware warning.
GOOD show, Bob –by gosh that’s inspirational. Nice headline, too, for a distant ageographic newspaper reader — “Victory in Idaho for Greater Moscow Alliance”.
This is just an engineering issue, Wretchard. Greenhouse gases are going up, how do you counteract that effect? If CO2 is rising, for whatever reason, and it’s effecting the climate, then we should think of some ways to reverse it. It doesn’t matter where it came from. It’s not a moral issue. The same for methane. Maybe there’s a lot of forces that keep the methane in balance, but maybe they don’t work any more. Maybe the buffalo didn’t emit as much methane as cattle, and we’ve upset the balance. OK. What’s the problem with fixing it? All this stuff may be a political issue today, but I don’t think it has to be.
The cow is a vegetarian. Its nature as God intended has to be respected, even by our latter day Babel builders. The last time the British fed their cows with “boosters” made from recycled cow bones and entrails -thereby making it a cannibal – we got the mad cow disease. The result of this experiment will no doubt be similar.
Yeah Ivan,
When Cows Swim
(Cow Coronaries and Strokes should decline, however.)
Rat finally provoked me into articulating my thoughts/feelings which previously stewed as a brew of mild nausea and disgust.
Only took about 5 years!
—
Doug said,
“I may not be bold, but I’m not deluded into believing my own outrageous fantasies.
Not to imply that you rationalize yours with relativistic argument, of course.”
—
Followed by:
For the record,
It gets a bit Old hearing something on the order of
“Reagan = Obama”
ad infinitum
Australian cattle mostly – belch – methane.
(that’s cos they’re ruminants and all and they do the enteric fermentation thingy)
Only small amounts of methane are “released” by farting.
Good people here are trying to accurately determine what is contained in a – belch -.
What kind of perversity would account Methane release to Farting,
when in truth it is belching?
People want to know.
Buddy Larsen defines:
western greenie… [equals] … theoretical ascetic
programmer contemplates mental image of a “theoretical ascetic” wolfing down MacBurgers while practicing ahimsa,…starts giggling, wife asks,”Are you reading Belmont Club again?”
When mankind was young;
When wild beasts roamed the savannas at will;
When hunter and prey fought in wars of famine and feast;
When vast, unchecked heards of wild ruminants marched across the oceans of grass;
Did they fart?
When wild ruminants marched across oceans of grass,
we can be sure,
they emitted gas.
this is the kind of crazy that, 400 years ago would have been equivalent to drowning a witch, if she sank and died she was ok. if she floated she was a witch drag her out and burn her.
Holy sheet! My Docs recently put me on fish oil and all it does is make me fart more!
hey, i knew the Fartmores –nice folks –from Beantown. i oughtta go sniff ‘em out and say hello.
Herds grazing in masses
eat grasses, make gases
blast forth from their asses,
man downwind aghast is
running upwind quite fast is.
What puzzles me is how we (the conservative good guys) lost the environmentalists to the opposition.
Because the opposition lets people substitute good intentions for good results, and it lets people displace blame to the evil others.
What’s more likely to do something positive for the environment? Turning off your lights for an hour once a year as a “statement”, or building a nuclear power plant? Sitting around in the dark on a lark is easy enough to do, maybe even a bit romantic if you work it right (I bet a lot of these Earth Hour nutters lit candles without even realizing the contradiction).
What’s easier to do? Skip the American Idol reruns (oh, that’s not a rerun? It’s a new show? Hmmm, looks just like last season, speaking of which, wasn’t “last season” just a couple of months ago?) and clean out the furnace filters so your house – your house – is more energy efficient? Or sign a petition to outlaw some recreational activity you don’t do, or really even understand?
this is the kind of crazy that, 400 years ago would have been equivalent to drowning a witch, if she sank and died she was ok. if she floated she was a witch drag her out and burn her.
heheh–the ol’ river god test. If you’re innocent, the river god accepts ya, and ya drown, if you’re guilty, the river god rejects ya and ya float, saved from drowning, to be burned by your society.
Gotcha floatin’ or sinkin’.
Rough justice.
(–pssst, bob, do NOT propose this at the next city council meeting –trust me –i’ve been to town nearly twice since the 70s and it’s changed, man!)
In fact, beans are not the planet’s friends :
http://www.break.com/i-see-you/fart-caught-on-infrared-camera.html
I wonder what sort of crazy disease the cows will get and give to the Brits & Irish from being fed fish oil?
I wonder what sort of crazy disease the cows will get and give to the Brits & Irish from being fed fish oil?
Laugh if you want, some horrible disease is obviously already eating away at people’s brains. At least the parts responsible for logic anyway.
I’m guessing it’s spread by eating arugula.
I understand that “The Complete Idiot’s Guide to Legislating” is in print now.
The Invisible Constitution
By Laurence H. Tribe
Reviewed by Timothy Sandefur
Our Constitution is a simple document written in plain language, not for an elite but for a self-governing people.
Unwritten traditions and complicated theories certainly play a role in understanding it, but they must always be rooted in the writings of “the people.”
When lawyers yield to the temptation of formulating labyrinthine doctrines by which the rights they treasure are strongly protected and rights they consider unimportant are left out in the rain, they have clearly gone wrong.
Perils of a Bright Idea
Fervent. 1. Hot, burning, glowing, boiling. — Oxford English Dictionary
WASHINGTON — “Fervently” is how America will henceforth engage in talks on global warming. So said the president’s climate change negotiator Sunday in Germany, at a U.N. conference on reducing carbon emissions. This vow was fervently applauded by conferees welcoming the end of what AP’s news story called the Bush administration’s “eight years of obdurate participation” in climate talks.
Reducing carbon emissions supposedly will reverse warming, if it resumes after the current period without warming, a period that began, according to statistics published by the World Meteorological Organization, 11 years ago. Regarding the reversing, the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change has many ambitions, as outlined in a working group’s 16-page “information note” to “facilitate discussions.” For example:
“Tariffs can be lowered to grant special preference to climate-friendly goods, or they can be maintained at high levels to discourage trade in GHG (greenhouse gas)-intensive goods and services.” The working group says protectionism “in the service of climate change objectives” might virtuously “shelter domestic producers of climate-friendly goods.”
Furthermore, using “border carbon adjustment,” a nation might virtuously “impose costs on imports equivalent to that (sic) faced by domestic producers” operating under a carbon tax. Or a nation with a cap-and-trade regime regulating carbon emissions by domestic manufacturers might require foreign manufacturers “to buy offsets at the border equal to that (sic) which the producer would have been forced to purchase had the good been produced domestically.”
Cynics will see only potential for mischief by governments, including the U.S. government, using such measures to give a green patina to protectionism. Meanwhile, the U.S. government is having its own problems with one “climate-friendly good” that might not be.
“Long experience has taught me this about the status of mankind with regard to matters requiring thought:
the less people know and understand about them, the more positively they attempt to argue concerning them, while on the other hand to know and understand a multitude of things renders men cautious in passing judgment upon anything new”
– Galileo
“If CO2 is rising, for whatever reason, and it’s effecting the climate, then we should think of some ways to reverse it.”
—
It isn’t affecting,
And whether it is or isn’t,
there’s nothing (feasible, practical, realistic) we can do about it.
…any ideas on how to coerce the the Chi-Coms into not burning coal?
Should spend our energy electing pols that let US burn coal and drill, drill, drill.
michael hoskins@9:
“Cows are not native fish eaters”.
Exactly. Contrary to Nature. The short and sweet bottom line, as it were. However, this reminds me that in some parts of Arabia camels are, or were, fed on dried fish. As if they did not smell bad enough already…
Neil Craig@23:
“termites produce more methane than cows”.
A very good point. One fix might be to eat termites, as people do in central Africa, especially at the start of the rains when the air is thick with flying queens and consorts. Wholesome high-protein and low-fat food, some species could probably be cultivated using straw and other agricultural waste.
exhelodrvr@25:
“Feed a cow a fish, and it won’t fart for a day. Teach a cow to fish, and it will never be gaseous again”.
If I laugh any longer I will make myself ill…
I’ll be damned if I’ll have cattle with fly rods along my favorite streams.
SSS
Spinning reels only!