Mike Bloomberg’s Suicide Cult
If there is one particularly virulent strain of self-loathing that runs throughout contemporary leftist thinking — and so vividly illustrates the true nature of this fundamentally fascist political theology — it’s the implicit insistence that citizens of the United States ought to have little or no right to defend themselves.
For proof, here’s New York City’s mayor, Michael Bloomberg, in the Aurora aftermath, arguing that it’s better that a citizen die and have his corpse be collected by a unionized city worker — in this case, the police — than for him or her to have a fighting chance against homicidal criminals. From CNN:
“I don’t understand why the police officers across this country don’t stand up collectively and say we’re going to go on strike,” Bloomberg told the “Piers Morgan Tonight” host. “We’re not going to protect you unless you, the public, through your legislature, do what’s required to keep us safe.”
A co-founder of Mayors Against Illegal Guns – a coalition of more than 600 mayors fighting illegal gun trafficking and gun violence – Bloomberg is frustrated with the level of dangerous ammunition and supplies that are readily available:
That’s right — in Bloomberg’s universe, the ungrateful taxpayers should count themselves lucky that the cops don’t just say the hell with them.
This absurd statement does conservatives a valuable service, by framing so clearly how people like Bloomberg — who commands an armed NYPD and no doubt employs private security guards to protect his Manhattan mansion and his Bermuda retreat — think about the role of the police: that the cops are there to prophylactically “protect” the citizenry.
What the ‘good’ mayor neglects to mention is that the NYPD can keep the peace in New York City because there are so many police officers. When you walk through Manhattan, it’s like walking through an armed camp.
Also, it is interesting that the mayor has called for more gun control. What he should be calling for is for fewer gun-free zones. Most (if not all) of the mass shootings of the last several years have occurred in gun-free zones.
Bloomberg: “The only people that wear bullet-resistant vests are our police officers.”
News reports: “Holmes allegedly entered the movie auditorium wearing a ballistics helmet, bulletproof vest, bulletproof leggings, gas mask and gloves.”
’nuff said.
The report about him having a bullet proof vest was not acurate. An interview with the guy that sold him the “urban assault vest” said it was not actually bulletproof. It was just a cool military looking vest with lots of pockets to hold stuff, but was not bulletproof.
Bloomberg is right…
If the Hirelings WE put in place, with the guns WE provided them with, are too scared to do the job, then they should just leave.
But before you do, you must hand back over to the private citizery of your cities and States, every weapon in your posession, because they do NOT belong to YOU.
It is WE, not YOU, who are the lawful owners of every weapon in the hands of every Soldier and Policeman in this land and abroad….So if you ever feel you do not posess the character or trustworthiness to BE responsibly armed with weapons we merely LOAN to you for the duration of your “shift” each day, then by all means, just leave…
And surrender to us what IS, and has always BEEN, exclusively OURS.
Got that Bloomerg?
All the guns belong to US.
None of them belong to YOU
Right. Let them leave. In addition to forfeiting their guns they should also forfeit:
1. Pension and whatever acquired sick leave payments they would get at retirement, regardless of their age when they strike.
2. All future public employment opportunities at local, state or federal level
Precedent exists in Reagan’s handling of PATCO. Public employees who wage an illegal strike should lose their jobs – permanently.
As with PATCO, there will be able-bodied citizens ready and willing to do the job.
He also has his own “Air Conditioner Squad”.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/06/27/bloombergs-aides-thinking-of-new-ways-to-keep-suv-cool/
It’s my understanding that ‘Modern’ Gun Control first bloomed in Europe in 1918/19. The aftermath of the Great War. When the Political Elites in London and Paris looked out at the Red Revolution in Russia and the street wars in Germany, they were terrified of their own returning veterans. Trained in mayhem and thirsting for the blood of the Politico’s who had so mismanaged the 4 year slaughter. Or that’s what they thought. Hence laws to disarm the non-privileged population. As it turned out all the western vets wanted was Home & family and a job. But the Elites determined that they may be onto something as far a consolidating power. Besides there were REDS under every bed.
Mad Mayor Mike has something to be proud of: NYC has a racist gun control law (the Sullivan Act) that dates to 1911 – before those progressive ‘peans did. The Sullivan Act was a Tamanny Hall effort to disarm southern and eastern European immigrants to protect the entrenched Irish gangs. They (the pols) knew that their Irish gangsters wouldn’t follow the law, that was OK with them.
For the origins and history of the Sullivan Law, click on the link at the words “just about everybody.”
The objective of the Sullivan Act, named for Tammany Hall mayor “Big Tim” Sullivan, was simple; to make sure that on Election Day, the only people who would be able to show up at polling places, armed, to intimidate voters would be Tammany thugs.
Tammany Hall was of course a Democratic Party outfit. Nothing much ever changes in the Big Apple, which is why I have never set foot in the place, and never intend to.
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Not sure what you mean by “modern” but the initial gun control efforts in the US started after the civil war and were directed at the newly freed black and their supporters. Yep, gun control is based in racism in the US.
styrgwillidar – That’s why the 14th Amendment was added to the Constitution. Based on its privileges and immunities clause, all the states have to honor the Second Amendment. Unfortunately the Supreme Court in the slaughter house case eviscerated the meaning of that clause. Only now is it extricating itself from the mess it made when it did that, but only by twisting the 14th Amendment into a pretzel. Justice Thomas was absolutely right in his concurring opinion in the Heller Case: Interpret the privileges and immunities clause as was originally meant to be interpreted.
Yes, good points, and I’m familiar with all that as they are covered in the case filings in both the Heller and McDonald cases. A lot of good stuff on the 14th amendment and the debates in congress over it. The record of debates clearly showed congress intended it to cover the 2nd amendment (as well as other)rights which SCOTUS ignored in their early decisions on the 14th amendment. If you’re interested you can read the filings, I think the 2nd Amendment Foundation http://www.saf.org still has links on their site.
Don’t forget the anarchists and Irish, who were the excuse to disarm Britain.. In Victorian times, it was not uncommon for gentlemen to carry a revolver..
Until the current disarmament, no bobby need carry a gun, because he’d have 6 armed home- and shop-owners running to his defense when they heard that whistle.
Police officers serve the municipality and themselves more than they do the people. So, should they go on strike as Bloombag suggests they do, they would be striking against Bloombag more than the people. Bloombag’s personal army of bodyguards on strike is fine with me.
Good. Let the police nationwide go on strike, It will help municipal budgets immensely.
Meanwhile, in unoccupied America, us Citizens will defend ourselves against any criminal stupid enough to threaten. Too bad the serfs in NYC and Chicago lack the basic human civil rights Citizens in the United States have, to defend themselves.
The good men of most neighborhoods know where the trouble comes from. Just give us a few weekends to “spray for pests” and we could go about not having to lock our doors again.
I will be waiting to see The Mayors own bodyguards turn in their weapons..
Ha ha…. You can bet the farm when he says they should “all” go on strike, he doesn’t mean his personal guys
As a government of the People, if the hired help don’t show up for work, it falls to the People to pick up the slack.
Of course, the police make it safer for criminals. The police are trained to arrest and pass on for prosecution. When the police are working you call them and let them handle it. If they abandon their post, then you cut out the middleman and deal with the criminal in a more expeditious manner. It isn’t as clean or civilized but it get the job done.
They want to get rid of guns for the exact same reason the Founding Fathers wanted to guarantee that we will always have guns. To protect ourselves from tyrants.
The Founding Fathers’ plan has worked and it drives the Bloomberg and obama tyrants of the world crazy.
Governments, like criminals, prefer unarmed victims.
When Bloom “the soda” berg and Obama agree on a something…RUN!
Mayor Bloomberg–I am one of those countless taxpayers who fled your city and state when it became clear that you despised every thing about me but my money. Unlike you, I have no resources for private or taxpayer funded security. I AM my family’s security force, and so I am glad to live in a state that acknowledges that right. Good luck to you and your city, but may God help you.
That mask was removed when Obama was elected, every democrat has proven this to be a fact!
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But didn’t they have a sign that said “Gun free zone,” at this CO theatre? It’s true. I guess a mass murderer doesn’t follow those pesky laws, do they? Bloomberg is a little man who wants to make himself appear more important than he really is. Mayor, put your money where your mouth is, ditch those armed security guards that follow you around, if you really believe in this, otherwise, shut your little mouth.
aprilnovember811: Gun-free zones should be abolished, given how dangerous they are. E.g., Columbine, Virginia Tech, Ft. Hood, Washington DC, Chicago, etc., etc. So, if you see a gun-free zone, don’t go there, or take your choices, or ignore the law (as in civil disobedience) and carry concealed, it just might save your life.
Gun free zones are so fucking ridiculous, I think small brained people actually believe that criminals and the demented would honor such stupidity. OMG, how stupid is that.
Michael,
The theatre shooter did NOT have body armor. He had a tactical (load-carrying) vest which provides as much armor as a chamois shirt.
Thanks for pointing that out. As per the original link, I was relying on media reports, which oddly enough proved to be wrong. Corrected, rephrased and relinked now.
It is not the job of the police to protect you as an individual, they only protect society in general through enforcement of the laws after they are broken. That is the law of the land in the US based on SCOTUS decisions and other precedent in the lower courts and state laws. Some of those cases are:
1. Warren vs DC, Court of Appeals, DC
“fundamental principle of American law that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any individual citizen.”
2.Castle Rock Vs Gonzalez, SCOTUS. Police failed to respond when woman called to say her ex, whom she had a restraining order against, was coming over and had threatened to kill the kids. He did. She sued. She lost. Court ruled that a restraining order did not create a special relationship obligating the police to protect her or the kids.
4. Hartzler v. City of San Jose, 46 Cal. App. 3d 6 (1st Dist. 1975). (Ruth Brunell, restraining order ex-husband called to say “I’m coming to kill you.” Police wouldn’t come.
AND FROM NYC ITSELF-
5. Riss vs New York. Linda Riss telephoned the police and begged for help because her ex-boyfriend had repeatedly threatened. The day after she had pleaded for police protection, the ex-boyfriend threw lye in her face, blinding her in one eye, severely damaging the other, and permanently scarring her features. [Note: Linda Riss obeyed the law, yet the law prevented her from arming herself in self-defense.]
“What makes the City’s position particularly difficult to understand is that, in conformity to the dictates of the law, Linda did not carry any weapon for self-defense. Thus, by a rather bitter irony she was required to rely for protection on the City of New York which now denies all responsibility to her.” Dissenting opinion
TYPICAL OF THE STATES ENSHRINING THIS IN THEIR LAWS-
California’s Government Code, Sections 821, 845, and 846 which state, in part: “Neither a public entity or a public employee [may be sued] for failure to provide adequate police protection or service, failure to prevent the commission of crimes and failure to apprehend criminals.”
Excellent points. Police are not there to protect good citizens They come after you’ve been attacked and, if they arent prevented from doing so by courts, they might be able to put the guy who attacked you into a prison. But police cannot and are not charged with “protecting you. ” As the saying goes, “When every second counts, the police are only an average response time of 15 minutes away.”
My ex’s first husband was shot in a bar in Santa Ana, CA. It was over quarters on the pool table. This was (is?) a bar with an immigrant Latino clientele. The argument started, and about seven people pulled out guns and started shooting. Santiago got a round in the chest, penetrating his lung. SAPD waited half an hour after the 911 call to make sure it was safe to enter the bar. By that time, he was dead.
Sorry to hear that, I am willing to bet those guns were probably obtained illegally, again sorry for your loss, but I am not responsible for his death. I should not be punished for a criminal act committed by someone else. My uncle almost died when three gang members broke into his store armed, my uncle took out his gun and started shooting, no one died but these guys were caught, and wanted for murder and sexual assaults that they committed. Again, if it wasn’t for his gun my uncle could have been murdered and his female employees raped and murdered.
Nanny Bloomberg said, “I don’t understand why the police officers across this country don’t stand up collectively and say we’re going to go on strike”.
Of course you don’t understand. You’re a stupid jackass.
‘…how often have you heard a lefty say, “I wouldn’t trust myself to have a gun in the house”?’
I’m a conservative, but that’s how I feel *about myself*. It’s a *strictly personal* decision. I’m 100 percent in support of the 2nd amendment and anyone’s right to own a gun. I *demand* that *right* even though I may not exercise it.
Your are better man than the progressives. Rights are for the people to use IF they so choose.To speak ones mind or to be polite and not say anything.To own a gun or not. It is the individual citizens choice to make,NOT the governments’.If people choose not to own a gun it should be because of thier choice, not because of the demands of government. Thank you for that bit logical wisdom.
after being stiffed on their contracts since the Guiliani administration I would think the NYPD would be happy to go on strike if they were allowed.
Perhaps Bloomberg and his beard should restrict their movements to the Upper East Side where everything is always sunny and bright and trans fats and cigarettes and fizzy drinks have been banned to the provinces.
Michael Bloomberg is empowered by the Force — the totalitarian compulsion of the Statist ideologue with a narcissistic dream of controlling and commanding his evil empire. Citizens who can keep and bear arms are a counterbalance to the power of the state, so Mike wants only those who enforce his commands to have that power. Then he can tell you what you may eat, and how much Coke you may drink, in his personal empire. Human nature ordains that there will always be a Bloomberg aspiring to dominate his fellow man, and the only protection for liberty is the power of each individual to say no, and to back it up.
A totalitarian state can only achieve control after disarming and overpowering the individual. Hitler’s Nazi Germany, Stalin’s USSR, Mao’s Red China were only the biggest murderers of their own citizens, but overall about 200 million individuals were slaughtered by their own governments, once gun control had been achieved.
This isn’t a progressive laying down utopian dictates, it is elitist talk about upping their edge on self protection. Bloomberg’s security are pro-active protection who are wired to intel, ready and able.
For the rest of us, a cop is who you call after the crime has been committed. The other old saw is “I carry a gun because a cop is too big to fit in my pocket.” For the elitist, their pockets are big enough to carry cops.
Somebody needs to get the bodyguards away from him so we can give the little creep a swirly. Better yet, pay the bodyguards to give him the swirly.
Wouldn’t it be hilarious if Bloomberg’s personal protection detail decided to go on strike until he pulled his head out of his *ss?
When the Hurricane hit New Orleans, some of the N.O.P.D. stayed. some skeedadled, and some just stayed home.
That left you, a citizen of New Orleans, on your own until the National Guard could make it into the City several days later…
As a result, if you were unarmed, you were a Victim..
If you were armed, as per the 2nd Amendment, you were safe until the Guard made it into town.
I, like many Americans, would prefer to be responsible for my own and my family’s safety than to rely on the Police who “may” or may not” be there to help.
In a disaster of that magnitude, if ALL the Officers stayed, you’d still need to be somewhat self reliant…
After New Orleans, do we need any further explanation of why we need the 2nd Amendment?
There’s a saying:
When seconds count…The Police are only minutes away.. when you really need them, almost every single time, you or someone else has to make it to a phone 1st… Almost every time… Something to ponder perhaps.
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I think the operative word you used is ‘until.’ When the guard showed up the citizens were disarmed. Then, you were not so safe.
Michael (he’s no “Mike”) Bloomberg.
Blue collar guy?
What a joke.
It would be a bit funny for the New York Police to go on strike and cause chaos in the city, because it would probably ruin Bloomberg’s popularity to the extent that no amount of money could buy his next reelection.
For more details on Warren v. DC, click on the link at the words “not protecting individual citizens.”
former Democrat-turned-faux-Republican-turned-Independent
Another correction: deluded in their alleged higher moral principles
Freedom? Never heard of it.
http://www.mikebloomberg.com/index.cfm?objectid=B923E1F8-C29C-7CA2-FD4E3C0EB0E8FF51
On Monday, July 16, the President of Vietnam, Truong Tan Sang, signed into law a comprehensive tobacco control bill. The law mandates 100% smoke-free environments in almost all public places, including restaurants in Vietnam. It also requires 50% of tobacco package surfaces to have graphic pictorial warnings, while also strengthening the nation’s advertising ban. Mike Bloomberg visited Vietnam earlier this year and had this to say about the news:
“I want to congratulate Vietnam for officially going smoke-free. Last week, Vietnam adopted a comprehensive tobacco control law which makes virtually all public places 100% smoke-free and requires vivid health warnings on all tobacco packages. These are proven practices that Bloomberg Philanthropies advocates through its work to reduce tobacco use,” said Michael Bloomberg. “Tobacco control is a key initiative of Bloomberg Philanthropies because we know reducing smoking and exposure to second hand smoke saves lives. This significant step in Vietnam, where we have been working since 2007, is encouraging for tobacco control efforts globally. I visited Vietnam in March and spoke with the Prime Minister about this important issue and I want to applaud him and the other government leaders for their strong commitment to saving lives and standing up for the health of the people of Vietnam.”
This is just Bloomie paying off the Mafia and digging up some new business for his ‘supporters’.
1000% smuggling profits and covert influence money is why Democrats INVENTED the original GSE, federal ‘drug’ ‘crime’.
That’s why the first thing communists or Islamics do is make ‘drugs’ illegal- what, these terrorists are worried about your virtue?
Well, maybe City twits with food neuroses do.
Mayor, you diddy bint. Mr. Illegal 3rd Term.
Please let his bodyguards go on strike- maybe Mr. Genovese will give the OK.
14. Nate Whilk- “Of course you don’t understand. You’re a stupid jackass.”
HA HA!! Gods, I needed that. Been stuck in Yonkers for a week.
Don’t even, eon @ 3., don’t even!
That’s what the ‘smoking’ restriction laws are for too: not just higher taxes, hiring oversight enforcement, insurance ‘discounts’ and ad buys for cronies,
but to facilitate smuggling of an untaxed ‘legal’ product.
In 1980, the first LBO allowed RJR to buy Phillip Morris so it could launder untaxed cigarette money in Europe. That was the cover story.
Coincidentally, the global Democrat industry of drug cartels had the perfect vehicle to launder their profits into corporate and electoral capture: the leveraged buyout mergers and aquisition craze.
Then hungry 2nd, 3rd, and 1st world banks happily accepted the untraceable liquidity of cash deposits.
Republican vultures and Democrat union bosses began crushing and buying cheaply desirable assets for their ‘funds’, which the politicos would then borrow against, using the leverage to finance the capture of even more assets.
The politicals became owners in name, and began pushing rapacious quarterly ‘growth’, which allowed them to grab ever more.
Their competitors were slapped with regulatory strangulation, making them tempting targets for hostile takeover, or reducing the role of CEOs to keeping the protection monies paid.
The ‘State’ owned the companies outright, by borrowing against public pension or intragovernmental funds, and buying them as ‘active management by private investment groups’ (composed of Congressmen, governors, mayors, AG’s, etc);
or, State actors could ‘manage’ them as defacto owners, telling the companies how to run their business under Agency ‘guidance’,to the politico’s profit.
The forced quarterly ‘growth’, untraceable drug liquidity deposits in banks, and tax evasion using tax-exempt vehicles such as union funds, trusts, foundations, charities, and non-profits created leverage that lifted much larger asset classes, such as stocks or real estate, which would then boost insurance holdings and mutual funds, which in turn boosted taxes, illusory budgets, and government ‘borrowing’, which in turn…
At the same time, government mafia’s also began discovering Wall St. and London- and invented derivatives! Thousands of ‘trading firm’ fronts manipulate $600 Trillion worth of derivatives, or manage the vast pension pools encouraged by legislative preference.
In short, laws based on ‘morality’, not damages, are a masterstroke that successfully turned lawful governments into global mafias.
Covert influence, patronage, capture, money laundering, and internal colonization are the main business of government mafias.
This remarkable organic evolution of legalized crime syndicates has almost entirely replaced governance, or the consent of the governed.
So get out there and arrest your neighbors for their bad habits!
Or fine them for smoking, speech, or offense, or regulate them for sodas, or salt, or transfats, or guns, or….
Get rid of all the cops, State, local, Federal…ego manic fools…playing soldier and not peace officer…
Every state should form Home Defense Units or State Guards..local citizens forming local based units to perform law enforcement and other functions to protect the homes and businesses of our citizens….we are citizens not subjects, serfs or slaves…mikey bloomie…bite me.
“If there is one particularly virulent strain of self-loathing that runs throughout contemporary leftist thinking — and so vividly illustrates the true nature of this fundamentally fascist political theology — it’s the implicit insistence that citizens of the United States ought to have little or no right to defend themselves.”
The “leftists”, MAKA (that means More Accuracy Known As) the totalitarians (be they Communist, Fascist or Islamic – all basically the same show just under a different tent with Islamic being the most totalitarian of the foul lot) have no self-loathing, none at all. What they loath is any citizen who does not bend to them and their particular totalitarian system, and this is across the board, not just restricted to a right of self-defense, but to all of what some call God given rights and others call Natural Rights.
Of all God’s creatures, there is only one that cannot be made slave of the leash. That one is the cat. If man could be crossed with the cat it would improve the man, but it would deteriorate the cat.
Bloomberg is not the mayor who calls Batman. He’s more like a Batman villain.
“And is the mayor really implying that the fundamental dynamic on his city’s streets is citizen v. cop instead of bad guys v. good guys?”
not exactly. if a citizen is civilized and obeys the law and goes about his business in an orderly fashion then he will have little to no interaction with police. if however a “citizen” is uncivilized and out of control and regularly commits misdemeanors and felonies and supports those who do so and views cops as a natural enemy then these will have regular and hostile contact with police who will indeed view them as the “bad guys” – but why should such people be called citizens at all? they don’t think of themselves as citizens, so why should we?
Hey Mikey, why didn’t the cops enforce trespassing and other laws (sound, violence, etc.) when Occupy set up shop in your town? Because you don’t give a crap about citizens, only your image as a mastermind of the human race.
No more MAYORS untill they start obeying term limits!
I thought that NYC had term limits on their mayor. How is it that Bloomer is still in charge and when is the next election?
Bloomberg took a leaf out of the books of third-world dictators and extended his own term limits.
Boy, do you have it right.
Bloomberg came into power right after 9/11. The first thing he did was raise property taxes by a tremendous amount.
No more MAYORS until they start obeying term limits!
I have a question: When did “elite” (e.g., self-congratulatory) opinion become pro-gun-control?
Allow me to point out that if Government takes away your ability to defend yourself; be it a gun, sword, taser, or pepper spray; then you become totally dependent upon the police force. The police will then be able to get more funding and then raise taxes to improve coverage. This then improves the condition of the state to dictate to the people how things will be, and there won’t be anyone to tell them otherwise.
I own guns. I use them for, hunting, shooting sports, and self defense.
That said, I have serious doubts that someone could have maintained the presence of mind to shoot this gunman effectively. Remember, the movie was playing. His back must have been to the screen. There were many in costume. From the time he started shooting, it would take several seconds to figure out that this was not some part of the show. He would appear to be an outline. Even though the ballistics indicates that a handgun could have been effective, I doubt one could squeeze off a clean shot at this monster.
Instead, I read a very interesting blog by a Navy Seal that suggests using a very bright flashlight to blind the guy for a few seconds. That would be enough time to jump him or get out.
See http://sofrep.com/9657/navy-seal-lessons-learned-aurora-colorado-survive/
Remember, the right to bear arms is not just about guns. It is about the right to self defense. This is where I think Mayor Bloomberg seriously missed the point.
Flight 93….rush and violently attack the terrorist..this has to be ingrained in our thinking…pre planned in advance I am sorry to say… Have a plan..if x happens..i will do Y… If A happens..i will do B.
Of course the extreme left are NAZIS which is why the Lame Stream EneMedia and the Left Wing moonbats try oh so hard to place the blame for Hitler and his National SOCIALIST German WORKERS Party (AKA NAZIs) on to the right. It projection at its most extreme.
The three biggest mass murderers of the 20th Century were ALL from the Left , Hitler, Stalin and Mao.
“I don’t understand why the police officers across this country don’t stand up collectively and say we’re going to go on strike,” Bloomberg told the “Piers Morgan Tonight” host. “We’re not going to protect you unless you, the public, through your legislature, do what’s required to keep us safe.”
The answer to your question is a very simple one, Mike. Because most police officers have a level of honor and duty to others that you will never understand and never have yourself!!
apparently this moron bloomberg doesn’t realize it is not the police forces responsibility to protect individuals according to the supreme court.
A co-founder of Mayors Against Illegal Guns – a coalition of more than 600 mayors fighting illegal gun trafficking and gun violence…
Just a reminder, members of Mayors Against Illegal Guns are statistically more likely to be a convicted felon than the average American.
Good point — see Update II, above.
Your description of the police (= armed groups) rivalry in NY evinces a parallel to the armed groups here in Germany during the Weimar Republik. Only there were some six groups, plus not so strong local police regulars. Eventually, the Brown Shirts under Röhm, plus Göring as chief at an incipient Gestapo (to be replaced by Himmler)and some first round SS-types won the protection day for Hitler. The citizens of the then Germany had from then on no way of self-protection. Disagree and the police bodies withdrew such protection. The very first Concentration Camp in Dachau was not primarily there for killing (a bit too early in the early 1930s), rather for detention and, as the news propaganda said, re-education of the arrested –> learning to be an obedient citizens. Eventually, many such citizens, particularly Jews though also anyone stepping out of line, lost the right to protection. And so the fascist story began and we all not the end of it all. If Bloomberg had been there at the time, rich or not, I bet he would have thought differently, only he could not have “legally” bought a gun for self-protection.
Bloomberg demonstrates how provincal New Yorkers are. He presupposes that all city officials and police everywhere believe as New Yorkers do that citizens be disarmed. With a few exceptions most police officals and officers around the coutnry support the armed citizen. Even in blue Arlington Virginia I have yet to meet an officer who has problem with me having a CHL. I have had many conversations with LEOs about guns, what I carry and what I shoot. Even in the ultra blue cities like New York, Chicago, LA and Boston most street cops support the Second Amendment. They know that an armed citizenry acting as their own first responders keep the streets safe and crime down. The armed citizen and the Police are complimentary agents of civil peace.
By the way when Bloomberg and anti-groups refer to “armor piercing bullets” they mean copper jacked rounds. Copper jacketed rounds are product of the Geneva Convention and were not designed to be armor piercing. Larger calibers like 40 and 45 may penetrate a kevlar vest. 9mm would be iffy. Harry Callahan’s famous 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, can penatrate many ballistic vests even with hollow point ammunition. Real armor piercing rounds have steel cores and are generally rifle rounds
These people are so the soul descendants of the old heretics -the Gnostics, who claimed to be blessed with special knowledge as how to achieving paradise. “Only they knew” (today phrased as, if you peons only understood what we do?) It is no accident that their leader poses as a messiah. (Didn’t their mentor Sal Alinsky dedicate their rule book to Lucifer?)
There is nothing new under the sun, say we Christians. The Godless left has a utopia waiting and their corruption is as Satan’s, deceive,lie, call evil good, and good evil and taunt those that wouldst dare tell the truth or oppose their evil.
I hear the roar of the lions coming from the Marxist colosseum…
I dream of this petty tyrant Bloomberg wandering the streets of the ghetto w/o his personal guard and w/o any other means of self defense.
Of course this disgusting nanny state big gov statist, Bloomberg, is regularly presented by the MSM as a moderate alternative to the extremes of both parties, and the conscience of our nation. Moderate my a**. This statist tool is almost as bad as Obama.
Bloomberg by himself is not the problem. Bloomberg is just a rich crank. The problem with Bloomberg is that so many people keep re-electing him into office! Bloomie wants to be President and there are many, many people who would vote from him in a New York minute! That’s the problem!
amen to that. same applies to Obummer. The real problem is huge percentage of people that voted for him, and will vote for him no matter what. Look at the huge percentage of RINO’s that have voter support as well. How the heck does Arizona send McCain to Washington year after year to assist the DemonRats in dismantling this country? How on earth do you follow Giuliani with an idiot like Bloombug? How did so many follow Bush I and II down the path of destruction after Reagan?
Were any on duty police officers killed in the Aurora shootings? That was rhetorical. So what’s this ‘we’ sh!t, white man?
We’re not going to protect you unless you, the public, through your legislature, do what’s required to keep us safe.
I wish the hell the police would strike until the Mayor does what it takes to make our police safe, like lock up criminals and stuff.
To top it all off. Who the hell made the Mayor of New York the spokesman for the rest of the country? Shut the [bleep] up, Bloomberg, and stick to running YOUR city. Our country is truly off the rails when the Mayor of one city thinks he can dictate to the rest.
Someone please shove a pito into the mayors mouth, what a piece of mierda.
Hizzoner was Hopkins 64, I 69: he is absolutely typical of the place.
I am deeply ashamed of my association with the school: with three exceptions, there is no one I knew there whom I would have in my home.
I strongly suggest that you discourage anyone from attending.
“The way of the lion is not for them, but that of the lamb, going meekly and unresistingly to the slaughter, secure in their higher moral principles …”
I’ve heard lefties basically come out and say just that.
Someone asks: “If a thug barged into your home and threatened you, would you want to have a gun within reach so you could defend yourself?” Lefty says, “No.”
Another question: “If someone were threatening to kill a family member, would you shoot the person in order to save the life of your loved one?” Lefty answers, “No, because then I would be guilty of murder.”
In these situations, the lefties reveal a view that feeling good about their own intentions is more important than results.
But here’s an odd fact: in political action, lefties feel comfortable violating all kinds of rules and laws in order to achieve their goals, “by any means necessary.” Conscience out the window.
Thus, Holder & Co. had no qualms about running a criminal conspiracy to send weapons to violent Mexican drug cartels, in an “end justifies the means” effort to disarm the American people. Then, the Dems will congratulate themselves on their victory for peace and tranquility, and ignore the soaring rate of violent crime.
Better Red than Dead, they used to proclaim. These days it’s better Ahmed than dead.
Lets not beat around the bush here. For the “elites”,(who are anything but), this All comes down ultimately to guns. Everything these ruling class mandarins do revolves ultimately about guns. Why? Because simply, it is guns that give these pieces of human garbage their power. It is guns, in the hands of those that they fear will rise up against them, that they fear is a threat like nothing else. And they are correct. It is guns that if they are to take over our country, must control in order to rule with an iron fist. It is guns that they must take from the populous in order obtain that absolute power. It is guns they understand like none other are the real power behind anything. Especially Liberty! Guns are, in the greatest profound concept imaginable, the teeth of Liberty. For all the bullshit rhetoric about old fashioned outdated concepts of the founding of this here Republic of rule of law, the elites know the existential threat to their power, their very lives is embodied in the right to keep and bear arms. In no uncertain terms, it is, guns, force of arms our system of government now lives by. In a civil society, in a society based on the virtue and principles of reason, the government has no use for arms against the citizenry. A citizenry that regulates itself through natural order of natural law, liberty, and the creation of prosperity. But tyranny, the imposition of it, does. Tyranny, as you and I and those imposing know full well, grates on ones life prosperity and liberty like an abscessed tooth.
Ultimately, it is these very same guns they desire to take from the rest of us, that are behind that tyrannical power. Where the threat of escalation in establishment and continuation of that power gained through violation of the rule of law, are guns that they use to enforce everything if you refuse to submit.
So it is guns in the hands of We The People that they fear most. Something that which our founders understood from 1st hand experience. It was, it is, guns that are the ultimate bulwark against tyranny, and the only teeth contained in our natural order of the rule of law of our civil society of our Constitution. The legal, lawful power to abolish government, government not of our choosing or making, the one created by these same “elites”, who strive never ending through decades and decades to take those guns from us all, a government that has now become destructive of the very ends it was designed to support.
Any thing else is a cheap side show.
It is the liberty to keep and bear arms that the tipping point balances. Not for a second do I think, if we had not that God given natural right to self defense, would there be a question of the day. I would not even have that freedom, it would not exist but for the arms I bear.
When the idea that the laws, regulations, imposed, laws outside the purview of the framework of rule of law of our founding blood, when the reality that what is good for the “elites” only applies to the “elites” begins to sink in to the minds of the middle class, all we have worked a life for, to be damned as bitter, racists, too rich, damned for clinging to our morality, our faith, our gospel of liberty, well the idea that the gun is all that’s left of sovereign will, and these “elites” want that also, well, there is your tipping point.
You are correct, and your money quote is about anything else being a cheap side show. I detect a stream of consciousness in your post. Not unheard of on these boards when a poster senses that his back could be (or could be PUT)
against a wall. The accumulated ill will of the last nearly four years does put a strain on the average and not-so-average U.S. citizen.
Honestly though, I’m very optimistic that the next 100 days will see us move toward the light. Who among you wouldn’t crawl a mile through broken glass to vote in November?
In any sane, civil society when the mayor of a city says police should go on strike because….
I don’t even need to finish the thought with a reason. THAT is a non-starter.
I have always said ‘Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.’ NYC-people, you are pawns to people like Bloomberg and his kind of philosophy and ilk. And your lives mean nothing to him. Time to wise up, if possible.
Not even going to talk about a mayor and the police holding the people of a city hostage.
As a native New Yorker, who now lives in Texas, New York State and City are a lost cause. The voters will never wake up there. Just look at the politicians they have elected and re-elected, Schumer, Clinton, Cuomo, etc.
The bad part is that the Democrat voting New Yorkers then retire from that state and move to Florida and Texas, and continue voting for the Democrats that ruined their native state. That puts solidly Republican, conservative states in play for the Democrats, a very bad thing.
Bloomberg is a rich bitch socialist who has visions of grandeur who wants to run the country. Thank god is tied up in that hellhole of NYC just where he belongs.
There are no handgun bullets available to the general public, that will penetrate the soft body armor that the majority of police officers wear. Those bullets are only available to law enforcement.
Secondly, ANY rifle bullet will penetrate soft body armor. Does Mayor Bloomberg intend to outlaw ALL rifle ammunition.
Police officers knew they were taking on a dangerous job, when they signed up. If they now feel it is too dangerous, they should look for a job in their PD that takes them off of the street, or they should find another line of work. The public should not be disarmed, and face greater danger from criminals as a result, just to make the job of the police safer.