Jim Lobe has probably devoted most of his time for the past decade “exposing” what he takes to be the enormous and malevolent influence of “neoconservatives” on American foreign policy. And yet he doesn’t have the time to listen to what some of us say. Thus, in his latest sortie, warning that the “neocons” are beating the drums for war with Iran, he writes:
Since the Jun. 12, 2009 disputed elections and the emergence of the opposition Green Movement in Iran, a few neo- conservatives, notably Michael Rubin of the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and Michael Ledeen of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD), have argued that a military attack could prove counter-productive by rallying an otherwise discontented – and possibly rebellious – population behind the regime.
I don’t believe that, and I don’t believe I ever wrote or said it. I really can’t imagine that those Iranians who are risking their careers, their limited freedoms and all too often their lives, will rally round the hated regime when somebody else attacks that very regime.
My opposition to a military attack on Iran is quite different. I oppose it because I think it is the wrong way to destroy the regime. I favor supporting the democratic revolutionaries, which no Western country has done, and which reactionaries like Jim Lobe either oppose or ignore. I support the Iranian people against the regime, and I want my government to do the same. I said that throughout the Bush years–not, as Mr. Lobe would have it, only since the fraudulent Iranian “elections” last June–and I am still saying it in the Obama years.
The Lobes of this world pretend they are “progressives,” but they are the opposite. It’s intuitively obvious–isn’t it?–that such folks are simply defending a tyrannical status quo, and are therefore reactionary and counterrevolutionary. True progressives support freedom.
Since he’s so taken with the subject, here’s a question for Jim Lobe: How did it happen that advocates of democratic revolution are called “conservatives,” while defenders of the oppressive status quo call themselves “progressives?” Isn’t it backwards?
Welcome to the world of George Orwell and double speak.
Mr. Ledeen,
the Iranian people WILL rally around their government in case of a military attack.
Please check Iranian attitudes before judging them: http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brmiddleeastnafricara/639.php
Take off your green US-made sunglasses and realize that the majority is in favor of their regime, including the sharia and a non-secular government.
Tell me, Ulash, how can you think a “poll” is a valid measure of public opinion in a nation that’s run by such a brutal government?
I’d think the fear of that government would introduce a very strong bias against saying anything against said government, regardless of what they feel inside.
In other words, your oft-mentioned poll is only convincing those that either part of the government or who lack the ability to think logically and critically.
Or, to be blunter: Try another blade, that one’s not cutting.
@conservativewanderer
if iranians fear the government that much, why the interior ministry has the poorest results of confidence? by your logic, that ministry ought to have the best results, cause it is the interior ministry commanding the police and the intelligence services and in your words: the bad guys!
let me guess: you did not even read one page of the poll
in respect to that very influential poll i recommend you a panel of the new america foundation called “What Does the Iranian Public Really Think? ” http://iran.newamerica.net/events/2010/iranian_public_opinion
also mr. ledeen can and should learn from this panel.
You obviously don’t know me. I despise polls, and find most if not all of them seriously flawed in one way or another. It’s absurdly easy to skew the results in whatever way one wants. Even on my little corner of the blogosphere, I pretty much refuse to discuss polls.
If I wanted to spend the money, I could create a poll that would say that a majority of people thought Obama was the Second Coming. Might take some work, but I am sure it could be done. Would it reflect reality, tho?
And your poll does not match up to the reality of an Iran where merchants are in their second week of protesting against the government’s recent actions.
Given that choice, I’ll believe reality over a poll any day.
I wasn´t claiming that a poll is always reflecting “truth” or “reality” per se.
You are right, the list of crappy polls and their studies might be longer than the credible ones.
but that doesn´t mean that you can reject any poll WITHOUT EVEN READING IT.
unlike other polls this study gives you the full data and methodology of the study so you can research for its reliability on your own.
it is funny to see that those claiming that it is a now a social fact in iran that the elections were rigged, are now rejecting this poll which clearly shows that . . .
1. the Majority voted for Ahmadinejad.
2. there is no such a social fact that the elections were rigged.
3. the majority is in favor of a nonsecular and semi-democratic state.
but hey, this study is for people like you. real iran experst know these facts since decades.
make the best of it ….
The majority? The majority also supposedly voted for Saddam Hussein. Did you consider him to have the support of his people?
Thanks for the fun, but you’ve shown yourself to be a shameless apologist for a brutal regime. I’m don’t think I want to waste much more time or bandwidth on someone who can’t even see the evil of the mullahocracy.
Yes, Islime is honor killing! That Islime!
Yes, Islime is murdering half buried women! That Islime!
Yes, Islime has followers/detractors in Iran.
Yes, Ulush, he Islime!
Crush parishioners of honor killing and stoning women! Crush the religion that celebrates in the streets when “Westerners” are murdered in the name of Islime! Because Islime plans to crush you!
Hi Ulush Al Qaeda man AKA: cold blooded murderer!
But Mr. Ledeen, “progressives” have always supported tyranny, be it Walter Duranty or Neville Chamberlain. Is it any suprise that they should now support the demon child they sired from their own loins in 1979?
I would support just about any faction or turmoil that brought down the vile Islamic regime in Iran. Having said that, since I have eyes in my head to watch videos and read media across the web, I must point out that the “Greens” in Iran have adopted the color of Islam for their badge; they express their so-called desire for “freedom” in puritanical Islamic terms. They demand the imposition of Islamic “values” and call for the ouster of the mullahs on the basis that they’ve betrayed Islam. They wave banners of green festooned with crescents and stars, and the Muslim vow of faith in their “prophet” and the supremacy if Islam.
Their figure-head of the “Greens” is another Muslim fascist, no better than the Mullahs – who is deeply implicated in the Iranian push for genocidal nukes – he was deeply involved in the development and funding of Iranian proxies including Hezbollah.
There are plenty of fault lines within the sinister Islamic edifice which the West should exploit, pitting Muslim regime against Muslim regime in order to weaken the House of Islam, our collective enemy. Let’s keep the cancer of Islam within the sphere of their house, and keep the disease out of our own. I’m not convinced that identifying with or tying our reputation to yet another faction of Muslim Nazis in the endless stream of Muslim Nazis in Iran is such a good idea, but funding them and lending covert support to any who can compromise Islamic Jihad and focus it’s infinite hatred on other Muslims is just and wise.
As long as Islam is invoked, as the Greens endlessly do, it is ludicrous to assert that supporting them is some kind of manifestation of classic liberalism or “freedom”. Such rhetoric is hollow.
The NAACP will be trying to paint the TEA (Taxed Enough Already) Party movement as racists based on a few posters that popped up early in the movement and the unsubstantiated claim that racial epitaphs were hurled at Black members of Congress as they paraded in a victory lap through TEA Party protesters after shoving Obamacare down our throats. The vast majority of TEA Party members are not racists but an effort to discredit them by making this claim is a time honored ploy, pigeonhole them into the worst light based on what a few might believe. The only generalization that can really be made to tie TEA Partiers together is a passionate hatred of big government.
The only generalization that can be made of the Iranian Green Movement is a passionate hatred of the regime. Labor unions hate the regime because they are wrecking the economy and their workers can’t get paid. Students hate the regime because of a lack of educational freedom, women hate the regime for lack of basic human rights, clerics hate the regime for the corruption of the revolution, and others hate the regime for a lack of a representational government. What comes out of this should the regime fail is anyone’s guess but an overriding theme is freedom and an end to corruption. I don’t doubt it will still be an Islamic Sharia run government but all other characterizations are just so much pigeonholing.
Weather the Iranian people would support us if we went to war against the regime is a really tough call. Much would depend on how we went about it but if our efforts are aimed at significantly hampering their nuclear efforts the people would probably be severely harmed in the process. Couple this with the distrust they have towards Obama and my thinking is that they might very well rally around the government. It’s a moot point anyway; Obama would no more attack Iran than attack Chicago.
The saying, “putting words into people’s mouths” came to mind very early, when I was reading this piece, Michael.
As for the difference between progressives and conservatives, why not see which side has been influenced
by Antonio Gramsci to a greater extent. For, I don’t think the percentage of conservatives who have accepted Gramsci, is the same as the percentage of “progressives”
who have accepted Gramsci.
I am not keen to unilaterally attack Iran.It is much better to use the power of word to undermine the Islamists in Iran and other countries.
As far as Mr Ulash goes polls can be skewed.We in the West know this.Iranians should also know but if they do not they can be taught to see.Just because you people live by Sharia law,it gives you no right to impose it on others.There will be a worldwide rebellion the world has never seen if it was ever attempted.
We must adhere to undermining hostile regimes from within with ideas and vision.In this day and age of technology we will know what Iran plans before Iran does.
In an earlier post, someone argued that Micheal Ledeen can’t speak about Iran because he hasn’t been to Iran.
Mr Ledeen countered, that he talked about Italian fascism and what have you without setting foot in Italy.
I would argue that at the very least you need to understand the language. Why? because Iran is not Europe nor is it Russia for that matter. Hence alot of what goes on in Iran does not get translated and broadcast to the wider world other than occasional inflammatory statements by AN or quirky remards like Ayat Sedeghi.
For example, how would Mr Ledeen understand what Mr Hassan Abbasi has to say. What did Mr Abbasi say in regards to Victoria, 24 and Alias? You wouldn;t usually find someone exhaust their time to translate what Mr Abbasi said to English. Therefore, it leaves a non Farsi speaker in the dark regarding the pulse of the nation, its rulers and influential cultural figures.
By relying on MEMRI.com, Mr Ledeen leaves himself at the mercy of MEMRI to influence how he thinks. PLus, MEMRI has in recent years focused on translating weird sayings by Middle Eastern in 2-3 minute segments meant to keep the attention of a very busy Senator or Congressman. Actually not, Congressman have plenty of time and are percieved as the dumb ones.
Does Mr Ledeen know about the recent sayings of Ayat Mesbah Yazdi? Does he read what is written on rajanews.com? Does he know the label that was given by Ansaro Lah website to Mr Mesbah Yazdi before it was quickly changed?
I think if you ask any physician, he will tell you that taking the temperature of a patient does not reveal the pulse!
well mesbah jannati you should just start your own blog and not waste my time with your fantasies. anyone who first demands that i get good translators (which I have always used) and then condemns me for reading the excellent translations at (the indispensable) MEMRI isn’t worth taking seriously.
ulash. i have trashed your latest. we do not play “hump the host” here. If you have something serious to say, try again, but I’m not posting personal insults.
Mesbah, I ask again: May I see your passport, so that I can see how recently you were in Iran?
By your own logic, I must know how recently you were there before I can determine how seriously I should take your own statements about Iran.
You ignored me last time, and I am betting you will ignore me again. Which, if one thinks about it, just proves my point. So I thank you in advance for doing just that.
To ConservativeWanderer,
please provide me with you email address and i will in return scan you images of my passport. Please understand that I will censor personal info. However, you shall have no doubt as i will make sure that images of my passport will also (in the same images) contain a reference to you, so that you may rest at ease that it is indeed my passport.
I was in Iran during the whole pre-election and post election period.
I may also include images of my ticket, which still has an open return with British Airways.
In your reply, please indicate what the images might mean to you so that I may know that indeed you would arrive at a solid conclusion instead of it being a case where you would dismiss the whole thing and act as if nothing has changed EVEN with the proof that I will provide you
Not falling into your trap, sorry. If you censor personal information, I won’t have any way of confirming that the passport is yours, and not photoshopped.
Of course, you also fell into my little trap… if Iran lets you come and go as freely as you claim, then of course they must assume that you’re not going to criticize them, because it’s well known that Iran has pulled the passports and visas of those journalists and others who would say negative things about Iran. Even the official Obama Administration US State Department website says so.
Therefore, if you truly have traveled freely to and from Iran, you are likely to be a “fellow traveler,” and so I am discounting your statements accordingly.
Morton is right. The green movement is based on a “mild” reading of the “Book of Satan” (aka Quran). Don’t expect any good to come out of a green-based revolution.
Awaiting Mr Ledeen take on the kidnapping of Iranian Nuc. scientist Mr Shahram Amiri……….
Sorry, the State Dept said Mr Amiri came to US at his own choosing……..
Wow, maybe I should let other Iranians know that they can hop on a US plane and be allowed in right away………
Oh no, he got the visa from the Swiss Embasssy in Iran….those Iranians must really let their scientists roam around freely…..noo supervision…
What a fiasco!
Let’s see if Mr Ledeen suggests that Mr Amiri was “exchanged” for the three US globe trekkers in Iran.
Whatever the story line, Americans obviously can care less, but Iranians will be glued to their TVs for Amiri’s next interview…….
Who did you say was in charge of the CIA? Some human on ground intelligence they have on Iranians…NOT!!!
Shahram Amiri, another CIA botched operation!
Dr Ledeen,
I have been following you for years.(no not in the dark sedan behind that old clunker you drive)
You have been thoroughly consistent on this issue and it is always amusing when your position is consistently misrepresented in the liberal and progressive press. They seem to reflexively fall into the old intel trap of mirror imaging. You, specifically, tend to trigger a dyslexic reaction among progressives. I guess it is easier to make up an enemy to attack , ie the neocon straw man, rather than fight the enemy that is actually attacking you, i.e. the Iranian regime.
Hello. Am an older lady who now follows ‘Faster, Please,’ and for quite a while, smile when I do. Although I’m no kind of ‘party’ person (always independent) I think your question at the end:
How did it happen that advocates of democratic revolution are called “conservatives,” while defenders of the oppressive status quo call themselves “progressives?”
is most appropriate. I appreciate your concern for what matters most — the dear human beings who risk all in Iran. Here’s hoping they find, sooner rather than later, democracy on their own terms.
In the meantime, could you comment towards waking up the feckless UN? Iranis suffer because of its ineptitude or whatever the excuse is.
Thank you again for an ever good read — Observer
Great to see you poke back at Lobe. There’s a real smugness among those obsessed with “neocons” and their hysterical rants are rarely challenged. I’d put money on him ignoring your question, though. It’s out of his league.
“Welcome to the world of George Orwell and double speak.”
indeed! one has to question the motives of anyone who employs the tired epithet “neoconservative.” the appropriate term, in my view, is “neo-jacobin.” as for Iran, it is painfully obvious that the leading force behind a possible military strike is Saudi Arabia, home to the 18th century Wahhabi cult as well as the majority of suicide bombers targeting Shia marketplaces, holy sites, and pilgrimages in Iraq. it is strange that Anglo-American interests would choose to ally themselves with the Middle East’s leading exporter of terror, but perhaps they fear the House of Saud (consider the Saudis’ 7 percent ownership of FoxNews and CNN’s recent firing of Octavia Nasr for praising a Shi’ite leader. until America can separate itself from Saudi money, we will continue to be subject to their perverse whims).
You have stated you are opposed to a military attack on Iran. Are you referring specifically to an attack for the purposes of regime change only, or are you also against an attack on the nuclear weapons development sites?
I certainly agree with you an Iranian democracy movement which successfully overthrows the regime would be the best of all possible solutions. The US should be supporting them now. In the case of a critical moment in the coming revolution (and the question is when, not if)… suppose the regime went all out ordering the IIRG or Basij to attack the people en masse, would you support a limited US attack against those regime elements in order to save the democratic revolution? Would it even be possible to direct & carry out such an attack?
i’m against a military attack, period. I can imagine developments that would lead me to change my mind, but your scenario isn’t one of them. I think that such an order–to attack the people en masse–would be largely disobeyed, and I think Khamenei thinks so, too.
Thank you for your concise answer to my rambling question.
It is encouraging to hear that the regime fears their own security forces won’t cross certain lines to defend the regime. Dictatorships fall when they loose their nerve. Will we see an Iranian “Yeltsin on a tank” moment soon? I pray we will.
Keep up the excellent reporting.
Ulash is a supporter of the Islamic Rapist Republic of Iran. Ulash is a 21′st century neo Nazi jag off. Iranians despise this regime. Padarsuchte kadarfat! Boro jahanam! All False Mullahs will roast in hell and because they are so vile, not even the scavengers will want a piece of them. KASIF!
IRI rapes, tortures, exploits and torments their youth. Shame on the IRI and its supporters, enablers and apologists. HARAM!
To Mr. Ledeen,
i wondered if you missed this comment but please be so kind and trash this post like you trashed mine.
his comment is insulting me with the persian words DIRTY, GO TO HELL and FILTHY BASTARD. ask MEMRI for a translation
which one?
#16
This train of thought occurred to me today in a stream of consciousness sort of way. Nope, I am not Joyce or Faulkner by a loooooooong shot, but bear with me. Many who start their political life in their youth on the left are not bad people. Quite the opposite. They feel for humanity and truly believe that the left offers egalitarianism. My daughter went through that phase while she was completing her post graduate work at one of the Ivies. But at some stage, if they are true to their feelings of goodwill for humanity, they wake up and smell the coffee. Examples are abound. The Horowitz’s, the Wolfowitz’s, the Hitchens’, the Frums and, dare I say, the Ledeens? They realize that thoeries of the left emanating from Marx, Engels and others are just another form of elitism going back as far as Plato’s Republic and his philosopher kings. Then there are those who are perfectly cognizant of leftist elitism and for that very reason they adhere to it. Those are the dangerous ones. And they are in power today. They are in the game for authority in a totalitarian system. To them borders are meaningless and patriotism a quaint anachronism. As bad as Lenin and Dzerzhinsky were, an they were bad, they were dreamers. But once it became evident to those in power that the Marxists system was evil, then there was no place for the dreamers. The butchers had to take over to wield unabashed totalitarian power, hence they were replaced, quite naturally, by Stalin and Berya. A while back I was reading up on Trotsky and had a chance to read some of his papers written during his short stay in Mexico before he was axed. It is a shame he died so quickly before he could write more. I couldn’t help myself but to smell, ever so faintly, that he was going through a major intellectual transformation. This may be a stretch, but from what I did smell it would be quite possible that had he been alive today he could very well be a resident scholar at AEI. So, Mr. Ledeen, don’t be upset at the attacks from the left. They are attacking what you stand for. Liberty for all of mankind. Wear that attack as a badge of honor.
To Mr Ledeen,
I am quite surprised that you dismissed my earlier post. I meant no insult. Perhaps, my words betrayed the sense of what I was trying to say.
All I said was that the best way to reach a conclusion regarding Iran would be to have 1st account knowledge of the literature and politics that is ongoing in Iran.
I think Mr Ledeen would be amazed that a conservative iranian website like rajanews.com tends to report news regarding US, Gaza flotilla, politics in Israel,
without any subjective spin. They mostly cover news from Maariv, Haaretz and Yedioth Ahronoth.
Compare that to what Arab newspapers quote.
Furthermore, anyone who follows political news in Iran really understands that very little if any attention is paid to Israel. Most of it actually covers US, UK and France.
In the wider Iranian soicety, very little about Israel or Jews are discussed. You wouldn’t hear on Iranian TV from an Iranian presenter any of the anti- Jewish rhetoric that you would hear on Egyptian and Saudi satellite channels.
Keep focusing on Iran- which to this day, not a single Iranian has committed a suicide bombing and ignore the brewing problem in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.
No matter how much Iran is targetted, so long as Iran remains the beating heart of worldwide Shiism, Iran will continue to wield influence and find sympathizers amongst Shiites stretching from South America all the way to Malaysia.
Attention Ulash and his adversaries,
Ulash states that the people support the Iranian gov and would rally around it in case of a military attack.
His ditractors argue that is not the case given the voting irregularities and the post election aftermath.
The truth is that the Iranian people are indeed tired of daily harrassment by the iranian government and its worsening international isolation. They do want to live like normal people would too.
Most Iranians have atleast had some contact with satellie tv or have been to Kuwait or Dubai or atleast know relatives overseas.
Not a single Iranian, can honestly argue why what is good for Arab Islamic Dubai is not good for Persian Iran/
Not a single Iranian hardliner can answer with a straight face why what is good for Lebanon is not good for Iran.
Isn’t Hezbollah and Lebanese the nation of “resistance”? Then why can the nation of resistance still have its beaches, press freedoms, international relations, its beirut nightclubs and its weekly rock festivals?
Why is that accepted for Arab Lebanese (whom the Quran and Mohammed) is closer to but not for Persians?
Why should Iranians sacrifice good international relations for the sake of Palestinians? The same Palestinians that have their Yasser Arafat kiss Rabin’s widow’s hand as seen on front page of NYTIMES. The same Palestinians who constitute 1/5 of Israel’s pop. and carry Israeli passports and open the Oasis Casino to attract Israeli tourists to West Bank.
All of these are questions which Iranian officials can’t answer.
But, at the end of the day, no matter how much the people are sick and tired of this government, once they are in that voting booth by themselves, something- call it a TInker bell effect, keeps them from doing away with this government. Why? its very hard to explain. It has to do with traditional, rural vs city, poor vs middleclass vs rich mentality.
Somehow, the poor, middle class, rural and traditionals want to keep a government that they figure is “not qualified” and is “modest” and is “down to earth” and wears ” poor oversized suits and abayas” to make them feel good about themselves. These classes of people for some reason do not want to have a government that looks down upon them. They want a government that they can always “look down upon” and always feel “they are better atleast than somebody”—it all has to do with some twisted Persian Pride.
“How did it happen that advocates of democratic revolution are called “conservatives,” while defenders of the oppressive status quo call themselves “progressives?” Isn’t it backwards?”
Yes, the entire “Progressive” movement is very Orwellian. In fact, I believe it was the Progressives that Orwell was writing about.
To Mr. Jim Lobe and to others who would say positive things about tyrannical regimes, to those who bless the regimes terrible acts, and to those irresponsible hypocrites who striving strongly to humiliating and discrediting the Great Institutions and its Great thinkers “the Great American Right-Wing Institutions”.
It is very clear that, Mr. Jim Lobe is not interested in what the Neo-Conservatives speak and write.
In fact, Mr. Lobe is suffers from a big complex named “Neo-Conservatives or Americans Right-Wing, i.e. the Greatness of the USA”. It’s very obvious that Mr. Lobe and his sort of “the irresponsible hypocrites of the humiliating defeat makers” are highly proficient in selling scandals and slanders and trumped-up charges and throwing of lies and apathy. They love do focus just on insignificant causes while they DISREGARDING the humanity sensitive causes.
This sort of reactionaries, the enemies of freedom, among them these irresponsible notable figures ” Mr. Jim Lobe, Mr. Zbigniew Brzezinski, Mr. Chomsky, Mr. Carter, Mr. Paul Fendly, Mr. David Duke, Mr. George Galloway, Mr. Michael Moore, Mr. Roger Cohen and others of this sort”, they indeed have made themselves a good tools defending the tyrannical regimes and others of that ilk, spreading their lies and lies of their media.
I think. it would be foolish if somebody or Mr. Lobe deny the great history of the American right-wing Institutions in its tough struggle against the evil Empire “Soviet Union”, where during the Regan’s Conservative Administration, the evil Soviet Communism Empire was defeated only thanks to the great struggle of the great Institutions and its noble great thinkers.
The late President Reagan together with Neo-Conservatives and traditional Conservatives and a few of the wise policymakers in Western Europe, they all have played an effective role during the Cold War, they played an effective role to fell the Soviet Communist Empire – their distinct mindset had been defeated the Evil Empire which was a real threat to the West freedoms. Specifically “the American Conservatives” they have supported democratic revolutions in middle Europe in “Poland, Czechoslovakian, Hungary, Romania, and Bulgaria”. After the Soviet Communism Empire fell, all those countries thanked the United States for its help to get rid of the Communist dark days.
Eventually, those Great elite have brought Americans to the most perfect possible triumph in the cold war. It was victory without shedding bloods. Nonetheless, unfortunately, they are the same leading figures who always have been attacked by Mr. Jim Lobe and his sort of reactionaries the enemies of freedom, “the enemies of our freedom” and the enemies of America Greatness. How sad that, Mr. Lobe is simply defending a tyrannical status quo while he striving strongly to humiliating and discrediting the Great Institutions and its thinkers “the Great American Right-Wing Institutions”.
Any way, the tenets of Neo-Conservatism continue to offer the most cogent approach to the challenge that faces the United States. Most important of those tenets “their struggle is moral, against an evil enemy who revels in the destruction of innocents and always they PREFER NONVIOLENT methods, while the use of force will continue to be part of the struggle”.
As Mr. Lobe mentioned in his latest sortie on Neo-Conservatives, which I call them in (Advocates and Philosophers of The absolute Axis of Good), assuming if there are some in Washington beating the drums of war.
Mr. Jim, it’s very necessary to distinguish between (a total war on terrorism or the war on THE TERROR MASTERS who supporting international terrorism, and between the war ON INNOCENT PEOPLE!!!). I have been reading Dr. Ledeen for more than five years. I have never read or heard a phrase by Dr. Michael which calls to use the military force against THE IRANIAN PEOPLE or against ANY OTHER NATION!!! And I can say that he is not in favor of a full-out, total war of devastation against Iran. So, Mr. Lobe’s statements are absolutely false and unfounded and at the same time lacks to seriousness.
Mr. Jim Lobe, on the other hand, I think, whole the civilized free world must beat the drums of war on the terrorists and the terror masters. No compromise with evil and NO compromise with high-risk international issues. Mr. Lobe, no wise man could deny that mullahs are an Islamic fanatic regime and very dangerous on international security, especially its deep desire of ill will toward the west and its people as well. The United States at war with Mullahs since the Ayatollah Khomeini had been declared in 1979 to COMBAT the satanic influence everywhere on the earth. Many Americans have been killed in Lebanon more than twenty years ago and today murder you ruthlessly in Iraq and Afghanistan by the terrorists of who armed and trained and funded by the Iranian and Syrian regime. And also by the extremist fundamentalists in Saudi Arabia who granted virulent infernal fatwas are knowingly from corrupt Saudi government to jihad against “YOU” so called in infidel.
Yes, perhaps this is true there is no suicide bombings committed by Iranians. But most of the suicide bombings and atrocities were committed by proxies of Iranian regime in the region, terrorists and extremist radicals groups. Iranians are great people, they are not eager to die. Any way, the mullahs and Syrians are knowingly killing the US Troops. Sometimes in tandem with each other and with covert help from Saudi Arabia, they all is waging war against United States in Iraq and Afghanistan and they sponsoring terrorist assaults against United States and its allies from Iraq to Lebanon, and from Afghanistan to Israel, and from Somalia to Yemen, and it is certainly possible they backed terrorist assaults in Europe.
In general, the US possesses a lot of information proving the complicity of the Syrian regime and the Iranian and the Saudi in the steady flow of terrorists from these countries to Iraq.
Mr. Lobe, the Iranian theocratic regime is based in large part on hatred of the United States of America and Israeli State. Which is why, there is no escape from mullahs hatred toward United States and Americans. There is no escape from virulent anti-Semitism by mullahs and their extreme ardor to Israel’s destruction. There is no escape from the war they have waged in the name of God and mullahs against USA and its interests. American public became educate the real dimensions of the Iranian threat if Iran will possesses WMD.
However, Iran and Syria two rogue regimes have ties. Iran is mother of terrorism. Syria is a strong supporter of terrorism. Iran is the world’s biggest supporter of international terrorism. Iran and Syria are allies, link them a warm political and religious relationships and both are supporters for international terrorism. Both Syrians and Iranians are totally in cahoot. Both regimes backed terrorist groups, and Hezbollah was training insurgents to use explosives to do assaults and acts of war against the United States and its allies. They created the extremist radicals groups such as Hizbollah, Al-Mahdi army “Al-Sader” and Islamic Jihad, and they supports most all the other terrorist groups as “Hamas, Al-Aqsa, Al-Qaeda, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and Fateh Arafat”.
Mr. Lobe, YOU ARE AT WAR WITH THESE REGIMES AND THEIR PROXIES, OF COURSE NOT WITH INNOCENT PEOPLE, and that the U.S. has the right of self-defense and to defend its national security and its vital interests in the region.
Let alone, the warm relations between regimes that dominate Oil extraction in the Middle East and which are pro-evil against the United States “the countries of the Axis of Evil”, as “Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, Belarus, North Korea, Zimbabwe, Nicaragua, Bolivia, Brazil, China, Russia, Sudan, Libya and even Saudi Arabia”, their dirty aim to revive the Axis of Evil and enlist additional partners to expand the Axis of Evil by family reunion, notably against the Great Satan (USA) and against its closer ally, the Little Satan (Israel) according to their claims. They strive to creating the rival block against the West in order to deal aggressively with any noble project brings freedom from the U.S. and its allies. They rudely intervene in the affairs of other countries, and work together to disseminate the policies of the dark days of the Soviet Union in other countries. They strongly fighting in order to harm the project of spreading of freedom and democracy, and to harm the Benevolent influence of America on earth. they plots inevitably to the cartel of oil exporters as challenge weapon for a fulfillment of evil aims against the Axis of Good, where The mullahs establish hegemony over Iraq’s southern oil fields and menace the other Arabian Gulf producers of oil.. for instance, once, in Venezuela, Hugo Chavez said “we have a strong oil card to play on the geopolitical table, Chavez told the Argentinian newspaper Clarin in 2005. “It is a card, he added, that we are going to play forcefully against the nastiest country in the world, meant, the United States.”
# 18. Mesbah Jannati
“In the wider Iranian soicety, very little about Israel or Jews are discussed. You wouldn’t hear on Iranian TV from an Iranian presenter any of the anti- Jewish rhetoric that you would hear on Egyptian and Saudi satellite channels.”
Mesbah Jannati, you are entirely wrong. Obviously you have NO knowledge about this matter or maybe you do not listen to the daily disgusting speeches against Jews and Zionism from the foul mouths of your masters in Tehran. Those habitual aggressive speeches which have became repeated every day to Israel extirpation from the face of the earth, and to wipe Israel off the map and to destruct the great Satan. In general, the tyrannical malicious regimes overwhelmingly have participated and WIDELY in increase of the hatred toward the United States and Jews, particularly in the Middle East. Today the most aggressive speeches against Jews and Zionism has CAME from that regimes in the Middle East after the message of Allah to humanity “the Koran”, which even they have exported it to the Overseas nations in Latin America. These speeches exported to people who have never knew previously any kind of hostility or hatred against Jews.
In general, when Iran ruled by mullahs since 1979, the religious minorities ruthlessly been oppressed by the regime on list “Jews, Christians, and Moslem Sunnis”.
So, please tell me! On any TV you heard all these outrageous statements?!
On October 2005, the Iranian President Ahmadinejad called to Israel’s eradication from map, and the same on April 2006, thereafter he called and have incited the Islamic world to mobilizing to extirpate the Israel and Zionism from map. Ditto on August 2006 he adopted to hold conference which was titled in Tehran in a world without Zionism. On 11 December 2006 he did a conference in Tehran about Holocaust denial and recently he named Zionists in Satans. Their sordid purpose to destruct the two Satans just as soon as they would possesses WMD, which really they will possess it soon. And recently the Iranian president has done it again; vowed to wipe Israel off the face of the earth he still proudly telling the world about this matter. Because he strongly believes what he says and saying what he believe. Once, the Iranian President Ahmadinejad lashed out at Israel in a strongly worded attack, describing the Jewish state as a “dirty microbe” and a “savage animal” as he said: World powers have created a black and dirty microbe named the “Zionist regime”. Ahmadinejad’s charges come days after Mohammad Ali Jafari, commander of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, predicted that the terrorist army Hizballah would destroy Israel in the near future. ditto the leader of Hizballah “the man of Iran in Arab world”, Hassan Nasrallah has been declared repeatedly in his mind “there are NO State in the name of Israel on international map in the Middle East”, because he never recognizes in existence of Hebraic State.
Yes, the mullahs would be very pleased to nuke Israel and to kill millions of Americans and Jews…
However, there are MILLIONS in the Middle East WANT a decent life and a peaceful future without tyrannical regimes, and without fundamentalist Islam. the United States’s duty as the only superpower on the earth to adhere to undermining hostile regimes and to SUPPORT the revolutions of freedom and democracy, especially in the Muslim world until the world be happier and safer.
But I think, on the other hand, any kind of negotiations or sanctions will NOT stop the Iranian nuclear project. Nor will such measures stop the Iranians and Syrians from arming, training, guiding and funding terrorists on a global scale. The sanctions never have produced to change of regime behavior; the sanctions only will harm the people and to take time, because both Iranians and Syrians are skilled at deceit, while leaving the tyrannical and oppressive elite largely untouched. In fact they do not want to deal with the great Satan.This is why, it’s very necessary to ATTACK some nuclear facilities and the military facilities, as well as the Leaders’ headquarters directly by limited strikes together with smart precision-guided weapons. The War is always kept Peace.
Finally, I believe that the vast majority of Americans not interest to reading gossip books and disgusting articles.
Respectfully,
Jassem Othman, Syrian dissident, the country of Holocaust, Poland.