Revolution, Iranian and Otherwise
Tell the truth: you don’t really know what a revolution looks like, do you? Chances are that if anybody asked you, you’d conjure up some picture including the storming of the Bastille, or the great assault on the Winter Palace in St. Petersburg, or the like. A big, melodramatic scene involving big crowds attacking corrupt leaders and culminating in revolutionary banners flying from the ramparts.
And sometimes it really is just like that, although, more often than not, those big scenes either never happen or come only after a lot of hard work, much of it very undramatic, like drafting documents, debating within the revolutionary ranks, challenging authority within traditional political boundaries, and the like. Revolutions rarely move in a straight line or at a steady tempo; they ebb and flow. The American colonists spent years challenging the King of England — the first protests against English taxation took place more than 10 years before the Declaration of Independence — and there were many times when firebrands like Tom Paine and Sam Adams despaired of winning our freedom. In like manner, the French revolution advanced in spasms, beginning with moderate demands for political power from the middle classes, and only slowly evolving into open revolt and regicide.
Indeed, there is an enormous literature devoted to the subject of the “revolutionary situation,” and this literature extends from academic scholars to policy planners. I remember once talking to a particularly talented CIA officer about the Soviet Empire, and was surprised and delighted to hear him say: “If we made a checklist of the ingredients of social and political revolution in the Soviet Union, we’d probably check off every one.” This was a good 10 years before Boris Yeltsin removed Mikhail Gorbachev from the Kremlin. He was right, but nobody knew when or precisely how that revolution would take place. But we did know that it was destined to happen. It was so obvious that I wrote a book predicting it.
Violence and Revolution
For most of modern history it was taken for granted that you could not go from dictatorship to democracy without a violent conflict. That was because tyrants had fallen either after losing a war (King George, Czar Nicholas, Hitler, Mussolini) or at the hands of a violent insurrection. That changed in the last quarter of the 20th century, first in Spain and Portugal, then in Latin America, and finally in the Soviet Union, Central and Eastern Europe, and in some African countries. Thereafter it has been taken for granted that violence is no longer necessary for a successful democratic revolution, and there is a growing literature — some of it analytical, some of it of the “how to do it” variety — on nonviolent revolution.
I do not believe that there are any hard and fast rules about violence and revolution. And I believe that it depends more on circumstances than, for example, on culture. In the years prior to the death of Francisco Franco, for example, most any expert on Spain and indeed most any Spaniard would tell you that when the dictator died, there would be a replay of the Spanish Civil War. “After all,” they would say, “in Spain we kill the bulls.” And yet, there was a velvet revolution in Spain, and considerable violence in Portugal, where they do not kill the bulls.
The Charismatic Leader
Students of revolution also love to talk about leadership. Many of them will tell you that you can’t have a successful revolution without a charismatic leader. This is largely a legacy of the 20th century, which saw lots of charismatic leaders, from Hitler to Lenin and from Reagan to Pope John Paul. But even in the 20th century, this rule was hardly observed in every case. Was Havel charismatic? Walesa? Certainly Boris Yeltsin was the very opposite, and Nelson Mandela’s remarkable appeal was hardly the sort that students of charisma have in mind.
Notice that the theory of the charismatic leader is decidedly un-Marxist. The Marxist view of revolution is that it happens spontaneously, once the circumstances are right. In this view, history makes the man, not the other way around.






I think the best chance for revolution in Iran is to specifically avoid having leaders. The problem with having any “leader” in a revolutionary environment is that it allows the government to kill, demonize, or co-opt any leader who pops up. One can avoid having any name or organization – likewise, to avoid presenting the government with a target.
I think it is possible to rally behind ideas and symbols, while avoiding any organizational labels or leaders around which the Iranian government can weave its web of conspiracy theories. What if the “conspiracy” were merely the idea of liberty?
I think this may be an era of amorphous and nameless organization whose effectiveness can be undermined by formal structure and title.
Alexis, this is also good advise for the Tea Parties. Any leader that emerges will be targeted.
Then there is the “depending on circumstances” factor for the tyrants, too. My grad school classmates from China were crying openly when the big shots started killing all those people in Tiananmen Square. That guy in front of the tanks, brave but he disappeared, probably shot. Nu.
Tell me Mr. Ledeen; how do you see Moussavi’s role in a post revolutionary Iran? Let us agree on two precepts. One, the masses who comprise the Green Movement do not want to see the continuation of an Islamic Republic. They clearly want a secular government. Two, the so called leaders of the Green Movement (Moussavis and Karroubis) do want an Islamic Rebublic, maybe less repressive. They have said so in so many words. Are you suggesting that after a revolution these leaders will suddenly become secular democrats. Or are you suggesting they will be kicked to the curb by the secular masses a la Kerensky and Bakhtiar? Trust me, I want to be optmistic. You know quite well what havoc these mullahs have reaked on Iran, my country of birth, ever since they were empowered by the Safavi dynasty as a bullwark against the Ottoman Caliphate. I will not bore you by going back further to Al-Qadesieh. And, if the only result of this revolution is to give birth to another form of an Islamic Republic, will that be something to look forward to?
I don’t know. I expect that Mousavi would be interim president, or a member of an interim governing group, while a proper election takes place and a new constitution is written. Then we will discover what the Iranian people want, with regard to religion. My guess is that no mullah will be elected to anything, but it’s only a guess.
Mr Ledeen,
please let us know as well, what you think on several studies by the university of maryland, which show us, that the iranians see ahmadinejad as legitimate, the welayate faqih as their favorit system and ayatollah khamenei as the most cinfident political authority.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brmiddleeastnafricara/639.php
please do not reject the poll without reading it with the argument that iranians never would give honest questions or that it´s not possible to do polls in iran. IT IS like in any other state.
please be at least this time a scientist and not an opinion maker.
i have greater confidence in the Iranian poll–long before the phony elections–that showed more than 70% of the people rejected the regime. Ulash, are you really Flynt Leverett in drag?
can you please give us the link to this 70%-rejecting-the-regime, including questionares, findings and SPSS data ?
and please don´t bring in the leveretts, they are not responsible for this study and not the only ones awarding this poll with credibility.
at least they visited iran for scientific exchange and KNOW what they are talking about
read my books.
I don’t think it is a mystery what the majority of the Iranian people want; to relegate the mullahs to Qom and have a true Western democracy. I will not allow myself to doubt that for a minute despite the propaganda efforts of possible agents provocateurs such as Ulash. But I am less confident in the goals of the Green “leaders”. Hoevere, I think the anger among the masses is so incendiary that these leaders will only be acting as catalysts and dealt with accordingly. But the Iranian people have been crucified once before and could be walking right into a second crucifixion. Quo vadis, domine? Eo Romam iterum crucifigi.
This is another wannabe analysis by another pseudo iran expert.
Mr Ledeen, congratulations that you decided to be in favor of the green “moevement”. but you should still face the reality that the green movement was nothing than a media campaign which was more hyped here in the western media, than it was in iran.
if you would visit iran for having an exchange with scholars, students and observers, you would recognize that the majority of iran does not consider their country as a dictatorship.
i recommend you to have a look on PIPA opinion poll´s, which clearly shows, that iranians see the islamic republic as legitimate.
only a minority of MTV and Hollywood supporters like you are interested of bringing the IRI down.
unfortunately, your whole interpretation on Iran is based on WISHFUL THINKING.
Well, looks like we have an IRI supporter here! Sieg heil you jag off! You folks are modern day Nazis. Iranians do not support this kaseef regime and you are kaseef hezbolah kor e khar! Zahremar to all of you!
I wasn’t aware Michael ever had appeared on MTV, nor was involved in any Hollywood productions.
Better tell the Iranian version of Baghdad Bob (Tehran Tom?) to give you better talking points. The ones you have are so absurd that you’re destroying what little credibility you had to start with.
MTV? Hollywood? Why these are the very people who care only about their next spa or supporting governments like Chavez’ which are the Western Hemisphere’s closest offering to the one in Iran.
While I doubt that Mr. Ledeen’s optimism for short-term revolution leading to a secular state is justified, you have got to be kidding.
Does Mahmoud watch MTV?
hey larry, i said quite clearly that nobody knows what the Greens will eventually accomplish, or how, or when. I keep saying that I think the regime is hollow and that, if the West were willing to help the opposition, we could bring down the regime quite quickly. But there is no sign of that.
Michael, I agree with you absolutely on the point of no Western support for the dissidents. This is a travesty, always has been a travesty, and will be one if it is not forthcoming. I am not happy about the suffering of the Iranian people, and am thoroughly disgusted by the corruption that ‘justifies’ the cold eyes of the West on these people. That said, I believe one country has tried to help somewhat. Of course, there is a real risk that if the revolution comes to pass and a secularized regime takes root, that it will keep its distance from the West. And it should.
i hope you’re right about the one country. on the other matter, i think most iranians want to be “in the West,” and will try to work that out, although the opposition leaders must certainly feel abandoned.
Islamic REPUBLIC as legitimate?Here is what republic is-
noun
Definition:
1. political system with elected representatives: a political system or form of government in which people elect representatives to exercise power for them
2. state with elected representatives: a country or other political unit whose government or political system is that of a republic
3. unit within larger country: a constituent political and territorial unit of a national federation or union
4. group with collective interests: a group of people who are considered to be equals and who have a collective interest, objective, or vocation
Now in Western society opposition to those who rule are not hung,stoned to death,shot,imprisoned, or tortured on a REGULAR basis.Thats why we hear them speak.We may not agree ,but we do not persecute them like the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC does.
We certainly dont have flogging for adultery or stoning to death.Thats religious law not REPUBLIC law.
So yes Mr.Ulash we do know the difference.We will see soon if Iran will use nuclear weapons.Humanity may suffer but the Iranians as a nation will cease to exist.They will have no one to blame but themselves.Life here in the West is much more preferable than inside Iran.
Is that Ulash? Or Goulash? Or is it Sam by another name? Why don’t you come out and say it:
The Iranian people love their economic misery and political chains. Their chains are forged by God’s chosen leader and viceroy on earth which they dare not break lest it cost them the riches of Heaven.
Michael, I’d like your assessment on this piece by Irwin Cotler, who used to be the Justice Minister of Canada.
My main question is, does it go far enough?
Thanks.
http://www.nationalpost.com/Canada+combat+Iranian+threat/3268842/story.html
it’s excellent, however i would have appreciated a few words in favor of supporting the Greens in iran.
I appreciate it Michael. I took the liberty of sending my
comment and your reply to the former minister. (Thank goodness for the http://www.parl.gc.ca website where one can find email addresses of Members of Parliament, of which there are more than a handful of former Cabinet Ministers).
I’ll keep you in the loop, Michael, as to any response I receive from the former Minister.
Having red Bely’s Petersburg is it not possible that last year was Iran’s 1905 moment, and events will move us toward 1917, along the Feiler fast model
TYPO:
Revolutions RARELY (not really) move at a steady tempo;
Awfully thin skinned lately, Dr. Ledeen. I wonder why you flushed my post. I think you’re way off base on your assessment of the “greens” in Iran, and based on a few posts above, I’m hardly alone. My post was civil, and factual. What part persuaded you to stomp your little foot down? Did my argument simply prove too strong against your pet narrative about the Iranian throngs teeming to be free by implementing their new improved Islam??? Your analysis of Iran was a catastrophic disgrace in the 1980s and a catastrophic disgrace today.
i am not aware of removing anything from doodslag.
Mort,
Perhaps you’re referring to this comment on another recent post by Mr. Ledeen?
Oh, by the way… that comment was, obviously, not spiked by Mr. Ledeen or anyone else.
Who looks thin-skinned now?
MoDood: Please make points, tell Mr Ledeen the error of his ways with alternative analysis if you can, but please go away if you must be disrespectful. In any case: name callers, who make no point, only describe themselves…
Mr. Ledden. Great article. thank you.
#4: what are you smoking? I am from Iran and just about 90% of the Iranian people despise the regim.when was the last time you were in Iran? looks like Horseradhish and Hoss are both Iranians. I do not know how old they are, but during the revolution oof 1979 everone was supportive of and myself included. we wanted to have a change and get rid of one of the most brutal and corrupt government. the Shah. noone knew this would have been the consequences. all of those students who took the american hostahe for 444 days are now now sitting in isolation cells in evin prison. tens of thousands of the supporters of the regim in early years grew disillusioned and have been executed. the Green movement will succeed and will be far more democratic and far more pragmatic that these a…holes. High ranking IRG officer including a general have defected. their very back bone is being torn down and that is Bazzar. I just talked to my sister this morning. the strike in Bazzar was at first for economic reasons(70%) tax increase. it is now taken a totally polical tone as a member of one of their unions have been stabbed to death. Mr. Ledden is correct that Mousavi called the people not to confront the police. sometimes this tactic pays off far more. there is huge discontent among the elected reprentatives as well. they took in a reformist member of the parliment into custody as he critized the government for declaring a holday. he said we have 26 national holidays why more and the regim did not like his comments. this regim is doomed. you can bet your life savings on this. it is a sure bet.
It would behoove you to recall, if your age allows, that the “brutal” regime that you so tirelessly fought to overthrow in 1979 was the very same regime that was leading Iran into the 21st century. It was the very same regime that fostered gender equality for the wonderful Iranian women such as yourself. It was the same regime that was very aware of the mortal danger emanating from Qom and tried its hardest to distance the people from archaic and anachronistic thought. It was the very same regime that understood, correctly, that our natural ally is Israel. And, yes, there was Savak and Evin prison. But the august occupants of such prisons were non other than fundamentalist movement members such the Fadaiyan Eslam and cultish-Islamo-Marxists such as the Mojahedeen. I would argue that, in all fairness, that is where they belonged. There was security and economic opporunity. The US Dollar was exchanged at 700 Rials in an open market since there was no demand to expatriate currency. Was there corruption? Of course. Was that corruption even minimally in league with the current Mullahcrocy corruption? I dare say not. Can you point to a single country in which there is no corruption? No. You say you did no know this would happen. Did you ever take time to listen to Khomeini’s cassettes sent to Iran from Neufle Le Chateaux before you went to the streets? Did you listen to the bellows of Allah-o-Akbar from the roof tops? Did you hear that they had seen Khomeini’s visage on the moon? You chose to ignore all that mumbo jumbo to get rid of someone who worked tirelessly for his country. But that is all in tha past. We all made mistakes. But now only unity of purpose will rid us of this scurge.
well a bit of accuracy on your part might make you slightly more credible, horseradish. i was the first person in america to call khomeini an islamic fascist, in the wall st journal, well before the fall of the shah. i said quite clearly that whatever criticism one might have with the shah, khomeini would be much worse, both for us and for the iranian people. did you bother to find this out? no.
How am I innacurate Dr. Ledeen? Or maybe you misunderstood my post as a response to you. It was not. It was a response to Miriam Love. Your credibility, and the credibility of those in alliance with your thought has always been, for this observer, beyond reproach. It is my belief that you do not have a hidden agenda and your incessant cry for freedom, not only in Iran, but in wherever totalitarianism may rear its ugly head has been genuine and guided by the noblest of motives. I mean that. But one does not expect any less from a Pomonista:-)
ha! sorry, horseradish, for the misunderstanding.
I recall that article and the scorn it received from the supporters of the Carter regime who couldn’t imagine anything worse than the shah, and bought Andrew Young’s line that Khomeine was a saintly philosopher. Michael Ledeen studied Khomeine’s works like Churchill read Mein Kampf and clearly saw he was Hitler with a Koran.
Thanks for doing that. Even if all the ears were deaf you spoke up. Sadly, the ‘elites’ were – and apparently still are – interested in manipulating Jihadis to ‘serve American interests’ or some such thing. It appears then that the motivations were at least two, possibly three:
1) stir up a little Islamism to harass the Soviets;
2) help the Saudis ‘provide an outlet’ for enthusiastic young men (OBL);
3) apologize for supporting or ‘supporting’ Israel;
4) keep the personal portfolios buzzing, as in Carlyle Group, etc.
Indeed, it looks as if all the Iranians, Lebanese, Israelis, Americans, etc., killed by the Twelvers’ regime simply have been the ‘price’ to be paid (by others) to achieve those goals.
Shah was just as dispacable as these guys are… no question about it. 1% of the population had 99% of the wealth. this whole BS notion of the Shah leading us to the 21st century is a fantasy. he was at best a puppet.
when was the last time you visited Iran? I suppose you have not in a long time…. as much as I hate this government and as much as I want them to go, you also have give credit where it is due. when you walk out of Tehran Airport, it is like you are LA. Shah never delivered for us. Never. and I shocked you are not codeming him and the CIA for over throwing the only democratic prime misister we had in 1956
You say the Shah was a puppet. A puppet, by definition, receives orders and acts accordingly. Were you present in such a meeting in which the puppet received orders? Do you have copies of any official documents in which such orders were issued? Or are you just reciting slogans? You say 1% of the population controlled 99% of the wealth. Do you have any statistical distribution of wealth documents from credible sources such as the IBRD or the IMF to support that? Maybe you mean that the Shah was a close ally of the West and the economic system was quasi capitalistic. I say quasi capitalistic because when the government owns the major commodity of export, namely oil, you cannot have true capitalism, and that, of course, was the folly of Dr. Mossadegh. One other thing, in the US the top 2% pay something like 95% of the personal income taxes paid to the Treasury. So, following your logic ad absurdum, maybe it is necessary to have an Islamic revolution here as well. In post Islamic Iran you can point your finger at a handful of rulers who “delivered” for Iran. Nader Shah, Karim Khan Zand, Nassereddin Shah, Reza Shah and Mohammad Reza Shah. Peace be with you, Miriam.
I would suggest that there are predictable and consistent aspects of “revolutions”!
Cuba is a good example. It is one thing to be a “revolutionary”; it is quite another to transform into: being the “establishment” after deposing the former establishment. As soon as you see the new government is still clinging to the term: “revolution” in their rhetoric, and constantly referring to their government as “revolutionary” (years after taking power) and blaming others (anti revolutionary forces) for their governments’ inability to say: collect the garbage, you know you are dealing with a dictator parading as some type of ideologue…(Was true in Russia, Cuba, Iran et al)
We seem to disagree on intent. My analysis is that the US intent is to keep the vast majority of the Iranian and Iraqi oil off the “market” at all cost and that that is the common denominator of the US Executive Branch foreign policy since 1979…and that has been my view for decades (1983). I do not believe that any rational discussion/debate could conclude anything else.
So, for me, the US Navy fleet off the coast of Iran is there to either protect the Iranian dictators, that parade as religious, at all cost; or it is possible that, seeing the writing on the wall, that US policy may be satisfied with a complete breakdown in Iranian society, much like we created, by design, in Iraq.
But the bottom line is to keep the huge oil supplies of Iran/Iraq off the market to keep the price of oil high enough so that the Mideast despots can buy our weapons and build oil cities (Bechtel/Halliburton) in the desert…and finance the war against the “West; which we finance every day at the gas pump…and the propagandist are still pumping the 1973 slogan “Oh my, we are running out of oil”!…
By 1980, I was predicting the downfall, by popular uprising, of the government operating out of Moscow; and delivered that message to “deaf ears” in congress (Yes, I still even have the C-Span tapes from the mid 1980s) ; And deduced the World Trade Center would be hit (Jan 1999) and refused to travel south of 40th Street NY, and was convinced if I figured it out certainly the government had also…And now, it is with near certainty that the “Draft” will be reinstated…Between 1989-1991, I delivered to every member of congress the exact nature of the war we were already in and the exact battle tactics that would be used against us; including a/my 1991 copyright “Long…War”: “and we will have a nice Long Lasting War and sell lots of weapons” under the title “Syrious Business”.
I think there is something to your point that many movers and shakers in Washington are quite content to coexist with the regime in Iran.
I am curious as to the date you chose to begin to put travel near the WTC off-limits. Was there something specific that triggered this?
Yes, after careful analysis, by Jan 1999 I concluded the WTC would again be hit by terrorist, I assumed the building would topple so 40th Street is as close as I would go…
Since the “Western World” was happy to accept bus/pizza et al civilian murder in Israel as an “acceptable” battle tactic; the “Western World”, in the language of the Middle East, invited/demanded/made it inevitable that the “battle tactic” would migrate to the “West”; just as today, the West “snickers” as Hizbully/Hamass send missiles at Jews from hospitals/school playgrounds/Mosques (AKA: terrorist recruitment centers)! So guess how long till those scuds start landing in Europe, fired from the desert by “criminals”…This is not rocket science…And neither was the ethanol distillery I built by 1984 or the 1984 conversion of my car to ethanol(no gas); which I built specifically to keep us out of the war we are in now.
My 1978 theory is stunningly simple, allows you to explain past wars, predict future wars, has no holes, does not require you believe it or not believe it; completely irrelevant.
But if you want to be able to accurately predict events: Assume the “war is a weapons deal” and now you have a crystal ball: you believe, do not believe, who cares totally irrelevant; assume it is a “weapons deal” and you now have a crystal ball…
Back to WTC;
So leaders of Islime concluded that Islime could not survive against “Western Culture”: no honor killing/women are half the brains not chattel… EG: When women traveled away from Saudi/Islimeville, they change into “hot” western dress and changed back to 6th century on the way back…So the “West” had to look less attractive, so after the world demanded terrorist attacks be imported to the “West”, by not crushing “it” in Israel.. the biggest symbol of “Western” free market was WTC, They apparently decided to “hit” DC” also; same reason, no reason to think they are not coming back…They believe, rightly or wrongly, that Islime would have failed; in that since “they” have already won; our economy is destroyed and “we” no longer are the “envy” of the world. You may wonder how that jives with weapons deal but it should be obvious if you think about it.
It makes a fair amount of sense to me. Add to it the willingness of ‘public opinion’ to accept all the (false) truisms about the Arab-Israeli conflict, based in large measure on gobbling down media lies about moral equivalency, and the human desire to defer conflict, and willingness to sacrifice others to the crocodile. A lot of it is simply explained by the fact that the semi-brigands who pose as politicians are heavily personally invested in either the success of Islam or at least its viability. Why defeat it, which we could do, when you can keep it alive as a threat, raise huge amounts of money and then waste it on projects like nation-building in Afghanistan. At least in Iraq, it makes some sense.
The first half of this article, relating to the unpredictability of the level of violence in revolutions, reminded me of the distinction between explosive volcanoes, as opposed to “effusive” volcanoes, also releasing immense quantities of latent energy, but at a lower intensity over a longer extent of time.
Last summer’s bogus Iranian election gave us a sense of eruptive probability, but no clue regarding the range of velocity of decisive events, perhaps because decisive events can take place without spectacular fracas. There seems to be a lot of wisdom in Iran right now in the deliberate avoidance of open confrontation on the part of the hopeful, leaving the regime with the shame of monopolizing violence, which seems to be working so far, however somber the backdrop of such “good news”. I met an exiled Iranian who is very pessimistic, and even refused to breach the topic of revolution. He only said “You cannot imagine the horrors taking place behind the curtains”, and would not elaborate any further. The movie “The stoning of Soroya M.” revealed some of this, and we can only hope that these practices will eventually disappear.
In the realm of long-term and slowly progressing effects, I get the impression that George W. Bush is not given adequate recognition for having planted the seeds of responsible governance in Iraq. Fouad Adjami has written a brilliant book (The foreigner’s gift) on this. This is not direct and explicit American support of the hopefuls in Iran, but it represent a big (perhaps decisive?) tectonic shift in the right direction in the neighborhood. Perhaps the grand Ayatollah of Najaf is quietly exercising his influence among the clerics who would also approve of revolutionary prospects? In any case it would be nice to retire the paradoxical phrase “Islamic Republic”, one of the more obscene expressions of our time.
Professor: Proud you finally had that revelation in 2010! (the press has failed you badly); Iranian dictators that parade as religious…(circa 1980)”Commuless Moscow Weapons company” “promised communism, delivered slavery of a military industrial complex”; 2010:the song remains essentially the same, it is just far more productive and profitable with the current charade…
actually 1979…
Dr. Ledeen,
Ryan Mauro posted yesterday that Khamenei, supreme leader of Iran, has informed his close circle that he has been visited by the hidden imam (of lore.)
http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/07/12/uh-oh-khamenei-telling-advisors-he-met-hidden-imam-will-appear-before-he-dies/
As Mauro is an occasional writer featured on Pajamas Media, are you also aware of this? What are the possible implications of Khamenei’s revelation?
Dr. Ledeen,
The bottom line in your article seems to be a plea for patience – as we outsiders do not really know the internal situation in Persia. But, the problem is that events do not take place in a vacuum. The continued arming of Syria/Lebanon/HizbAllah by Persia, the apparent annexation of much of Iraq as a transit route for its missiles, leads one to see the re-emergence of the Persian Empire under the ugly guise of an Islamic Republic.
For us in Israel to nuke Teheran and Qom are solutions that for us would be beneficial, as this would take out the command and control structures of an emergent Persian Empire.
But setting that aside, there are other events and issues to be looked at carefully. One is the slow collapse of the European and American economies, and the effects this will have on America’s ability to project force. The second is the Extinction Level Event slowly developing and being realized as a result of the Gulf Oil Disaster. Both of these will tend to increase the level of chaos, fear and terror that affects the entire world, and both will tend to make events go in contradictory directions in Persia – one direction encouraging revolution and the overthrow of the Islamic Republic – the second encouraging the fuller re-emergence of the Persian Empire under the guise of that Islamic Republic.
Just some thoughts for you this Wednesday morning.
The Islamist-Persian Empire has indeed arrived on Israel’s doorstep, and must be turned away, forcefully.
Quiet revolutions go both ways, democratic and not democratic. Some of the observations in this article could be applied to the Obama Administration’s running of the current government. Are we in the midst of a leftist/Marxist revolution within our own government?
Every 30 years we need to elect a left wing democrat just to show the generation that did not see the last one how bad these fools are. The counter-revolution against Obama is the real revolution.
True Rue. But how may that be accomplished with the same mass media support propaganda being spoon fed to both present and the next generation? If they cant get unedited history from home schooling, then the same network tripe responsible for all recent elections may well cause a repeat result.
The success of a November revolution has yet to occur. With more poll push obviously being encouraged be advised that “the end justifies the means” attitude will devise as many new dirty tricks as deemed necessary for more of the same
It may take thirty years to undo the legislated crime committed so far and the lame duck episode is yet to be revealed. Media whitewashing will continue to dilute any “how bad these fools are” evidence before future voters as it has always done. Media ownership to promote political agenda has been around longer than TV. Without repeal of all legislative, executive and judicial retirements income the only leverage demanding respect may be one of violent nature.
Having only two sold out party affiliations behind which voters may hide will only provide more personal blog character assassinations until the terms treason and patriotism are restored. Any number higher than two could cause an overload for community organizers and definitely added expense for invested contributors and institutional moles.
If this revolution succeeds, it will be violent. The leaders of Iran are not the at least semi-benevolent dictators of Portugal, Spain, and Chile. Neither are they the exhausted and discredited Soviet leaders. Iran is run by true believers – killing them is the only way to deal with them.
I say again, we should be air-dropping Liberator-type pistols over Iranian population centers. Let them take care of the regime change.
Up until the second page, I envisioned Barak Obama doing the things you described to America instead of Iran.
At some point the security apparatus needs to give up, lose confidence or be wiped out. Muslims have a very large capacity for killing others for power. It’s was Iranian security that held out to the bitter end in Bucharest. A general strike might just do the trick.
A secular free Iran would be a god send. Here’s to an Iran that focuses on the happiness of it’s people.
The name of the game is resources, wealth, whatever you want to call it. Our govt. (whether Democrat or Republican) is there to prop up the corporations such as oil companies, weapons deals that keep that flow going, and any other company that keeps the power elite of the world in power. There is no real regard for our soldiers or citizens who are lied to every day by a complicit media in league, or who are too lazy to look at history. Some countries use hatred or religion to control their population, while the west uses excess (of goods, food, entertainment) to dull any outcry from the people.
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