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I went to see Parkland this past weekend because I was hopeful that director Tom Hanks and his account of the JFK assassination would become as powerful and influential as Oliver Stone’s. I wanted to see him rise up and speak the truth to the generations who did not live through this tragedy.

The film won me over as a well-made work of contemporary pop art; however, as a historical account, Parkland deeply upset me. The movie bends the facts and disposes of the evidence. The Warren Commission would be proud of Tom Hanks and this subtle, manipulative, fictional version of JFK’s assassination.

Now I have an ax to grind. I outline the truth in my book The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ, which concludes that JFK was killed by a conspiracy that included LBJ, the CIA, and their confederates in the mob as well as Texas Oil men. I name the shooter—and it isn’t Lee Harvey Oswald.

Now, let me elaborate on how Parkland disregards the facts.

At Parkland Hospital, the physicians who answered the initial emergency call when President Kennedy was wheeled into Trauma Room One saw a wound where a bullet had entered the President’s neck. Parkland doesn’t mention that it’s a entrance wound, meaning JFK was shot from the front, not just the back as the Warren Commission tells us.

Consider the words of Dr. Malcolm Perry (played in the film by Colin Hanks) at a recorded press conference hours after the assassination:

Q:                          Where was the entrance wound?

PERRY:              There was an entrance wound in the neck.

Q:                          Which way was the bullet coming in the neck wound? At him?

PERRY:              It appeared to be coming at him.

Now let’s circle back to Tom Hanks, who cared enough to capitalize on the 50th anniversary of the president’s death, but not enough to research what actually happened on Nov. 22, 1963. 

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No doubt about it--Humpty-Dumpty *was* pushed; & all the king's horses & men must be considered suspects, especially those who are long gone.
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Russia and Fidel Castro greatly feared by being famed for the JFK assassination by the real murderers: LBJ, CIA, Texas oil execs. BY LATE 1965 THE KGB HAD CONCLUDED LYNDON JOHNSON WAS BEHIND THE JFK ASSASSINATION

By September 16, 1965, the Soviet KGB had concluded that Lyndon Johnson was responsible for the JFK assassination. On 12/1/66 J. Edgar Hoover sent a memo to LBJ which stated:

"On September 16, 1965, this same source reported that the KGB Residency in New York City received instructions approximately September 16, 1965, from KGB headquarters in Moscow to develop all possible information concerning President Lyndon B. Johnson's character, background, personal friends, family, and from which quarters he derives his support in his position as President of the United States. Our source added that in the instructions from Moscow, it was indicated that "now" the KGB was in possession of data purporting to indicate President Johnson was responsible for the assassination of the late President John F. Kennedy. KGB headquarters indicated that in view of this information, it was necessary for the Soviet Government to know the existing personal relationship between President Johnson and the Kennedy family, particularly between President Johnson and Robert and "Ted" Kennedy."


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LYNDON JOHNSON HAD A MURDEROUS ATTITUDE TOWARDS ROBERT KENNEDY - "I'll cut his throat if it's the last thing I do."

Robert Caro describes the LBJ-RFK relationship post 1960 Democratic convention, where RFK had moved heaven and earth attempting to keep LBJ off the 1960 Democratic ticket. Caro:

John Connally, who during long days of conversation with this author was willing to answer almost any question put to him, no matter how delicate the topic, wouldn't answer when asked what Johnson said about Robert Kennedy. When the author pressed him, he finally said flatly: "I am not going to tell you what he said about him." During the months after the convention, when Johnson was closeted alone back in Texas with an old ally he would sometimes be asked about Robert Kennedy. He would reply with a gesture. Raising his big right hand, he would draw the side of it across the neck in a slowing, slitting movement. Sometimes that gesture would be his only reply; sometimes, as during a meeting with Ed Clark in Austin, he would say, as his hand moved across his neck, "I'll cut his throat if it's the last thing I do." [Robert Caro, "The Passage of Power," p. 140]

50 weeks ago
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Oh not this again. Look, I don't blame a man for wanting to make a living, but to drag out all these canards again, ugh. The conspiracy theorists (CTers) just ain't gonna stop. OK, Roger needs to make a living.

The evidence against Oswald is beyond overwhelming. Bugliosi's book destroys all the canards here, as does anyone applying a modicum of common sense and logic.

If there was a conspiracy, and it's doubtful, it still involves one shooter, and that's Oswald.

But the conspiracy, if there is one, is this: The Left couldn't stand that one of their own killed JFK. They had to change the storyline and blame the right.
50 weeks ago
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The only commie involved in the JFK assassination was Lyndon Baines Johnson, who was on the verge of being destroyed by the Kennedys.
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One of the enduring myths of Camelot was that JFK was an unstoppable juggernaut. The truth was the opposite. In Texas terms JFK was all hat and no cattle. The reason he was in Texas is because latest polls showed him losing to his good friend Barry Goldwater in the state. Goldwater got blown out because Kennedy was assassinated not because of his "extreme" ideas. A Kennedy-Goldwater election would have be very close. Kennedy would have been the favorite but a Goidwater victory was not out of the question. Had Kennedy "destroyed" Johnson, Goldwater would have carried the South and West and won the election. So much for your fantasy theory.
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It is not at all uncommon for emergency/trauma room doctors to get the details of a wound incorrect. In large part, this is WHY autopsies are performed. While researching this, I read that in nearly half the cases involving gunshot wounds, the attending physicians get some critical aspect of the wounds incorrect. That's because they are NOT ANALYZING - they are ATTENDING!

Anybody who gives a fair reading of the Warren Commission testimony of the Parkland doctors cannot escape the mantra of how they did NOT analyze the president's wounds. Many of their more adamant impressions of the wounds evolved years later (especially with Dr. McClelland) when conspiracy theories became all the vogue.

Then there came the 1988 PBS NOVA program where the Parkland doctors got their FIRST opportunity to study the autopsy photos & x-rays. It had to be a very embarrassing moment for them. They were wrong - and they knew it. Afterwards, hesitant to come right out and say, "We were wrong", they said that the photos & x-rays were consistent with what they recall seeing in 1963. But how could it? The photos & x-rays show NO REAR exit wound. The x-rays show no bone loss in the occipital (rear) area of the skull. They hemmed and hawed a bit; finally having to concede that the wound was much more parietal than they recalled. Uh - yeah! I should say so. They were wrong!

How could they have know the details of Kennedy's head wound with his hair full of coagulated blood and tissue? It was a mess! Then Kennedy was always on his back, making all that goo slide to the back of his head - giving the IMPRESSION that the greater wound was in the back. Plus, the exit wound was somewhat concealed by the large flap of scalp that Jackie had put back in place.

The autopsy doctors cleaned that mess up and could analyze it much better.

Somebody is wrong!

Either the Parkland doctors are wrong or the Bethesda doctors are wrong.

My money is on the the three doctors who performed an actual autopsy.
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"It is not at all uncommon for emergency/trauma room doctors to get the details of a wound incorrect."

Often true, but a grapefruit size hole in the back of the head is pretty hard to miss.

I don't buy the LBJ story, but the Warren Commission's report is an obvious bunch of whitewash. That rifle of Oswald's simply was not capable of doing the kind of damage it was supposed to have done. Even the Italian's had declared it obsolete before WWII. The round was weak (VERY weak), and the rifle, inaccurate.



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Parkland doctors got it right on the day of the assassination. Most of the original autopsy photos of JFK were thrown away by the murderers of JFK. The x-rays were faked and we know that because 30 witnesses, both at Parkland and Bethesda described a large hole in the back right of JFK's head - something that simply does not exist in the x-rays.
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My favorite anecdote regarding an erroneous analysis of a dead body involves not a doctor screwing up, but a pathologist (even they appear to be fallible at times!). This is paraphrased from the book "The Confederacy's Last Hurrah" by Wiley Sword.

One of the minor participants in the battle of Nashville was a Confederate officer named John (I think) Shy. He was killed on a hill, which was named Shy's Hill because his family lived on it. His body was buried in the family burial plot, and in the late 20th Century his grave was robbed. Before it was discovered that the coffin was opened, the pathologist was asked to autopsy a corpse that was found lying near the coffin. He got the age and gender right, and even the cause of death, but didn't realize that the corpse had been dead since 1864--thought instead that the dead person had happened upon the grave robbers, instead of being their victim. The corpse was of course Shy's, but it wasn't until the pathologist was told what he was looking at that he came to all the correct opinions.

So first impressions are sometimes very incorrect, and a more reasoned and objective look should at least be considered. In Kennedy's case, it tends to make most of the conspiracy theories go away.
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To tpfleming:

"Surgery of the head has been performed, namely in the top of the skull." This statement did NOT appear in the autopsy report. You are quoting the FBI report where the medically unqualified agents were taking notes of what they THOUGHT was going on. This issue has been addressed and Dr. Humes has never made a claim that his final conclusion was that surgery had performed to Kennedy's head. When he first observed the body, he was just making comments on some initial impressions without any analysis. He did not expect to see a flap of scalp like that. After all, it is unusual. (See how impressions can be wrong?) Then, after further analysis, he quickly realized that there was no surgery to the head. That was the nature of the exit wound. It was the only large exit wound on Kennedy's head.

Dr. Humes submitted his report to the Warren Commission in 60's. He testified before the House Select Committee in the 70's. He testified, again, before the ARRB in the 90's. Never ONCE did he claim that he thought there was surgery performed on Kennedy's head.

If he was willing to say so at the autopsy - in a crowded room that was practically "standing room only" - why would he not be willing to repeat that conclusion at a later date?

That's because that offhand comment was WRONG - and he knew it. Nonetheless, the FBI agents were writing things done feverishly. They didn't even stick around for the entire autopsy. They took some notes at the early stages and then left before the autopsy was complete and never consulted the doctors.

Do you really buy into David Lifton's silly body theft and alteration theory? Pfft! Silliness!

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Memphis9489 wants very badly for Oswald to have acted alone, and so must rationalize away thousands of pieces of conspiratorial evidence. They must twist their brain into pretzels, and wriggle their logic to the breaking point to prove the unproveable. I will never understand why people like him are so adamant. What is their agenda? I will try to talk some sense into him, but will probably fail.

To think that the Dallas Parkland ER doctors would not be able to recognize a wound of entrance is not reasonable. Dallas in the early 1960s was the murder capital of the world. People who weren't packing heat and settling their score with gunfire just weren't trying hard enough. Parkland saw thousands of gunshot victims each year. Dr. Malcolm Perry, Dr. Robert McClelland et al could easily tell if someone was shot from the front or behind. And there is no way they would misdiagnose a wound on the President of the U.S. Bullet exits NEVER make the small, neat, circular hole that was seen by the Dallas doctors. Bullet exits make enlarged, ragged, blasted-out wounds like the one all the Dallas doctors saw at the rear of JFK's head.

Since Memphis puts so much faith in the redoubtable Dr. Humes, I need him to explain Humes' statement at autopsy, "Surgery of the head has been performed, namely in the top of the skull." Who performed surgery of the head and where, Memphis9489? The Dallas doctors certainly did not. The autopsy doctors certainly did not. The only explanation is fantastic one. The body was altered in between Dallas and Bethesda. This would explain how two sets of doctors saw two different sets of wounds, and why the Dallas doctors and nurses saw no back wounds.

This will probably just inflame Memphis even more, but I have at least tried to teach him the truth of his history.

Tim Fleming
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/ASIN/098882907X
50 weeks ago
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" Bullet exits NEVER make the small, neat, circular hole that was seen by the Dallas doctors.

A 6.5 Mannlicher-Carcano could have. IF it had managed to penetrate Kennedy's neck (not likely), it would not have made a large exit wound. It simply didn't have much energy. No way would it have made a "large, blasted out wound".

In fact, the weakness of the round supposedly used is one of the stronger arguments against the preposterous "magic bullet" theory of the Warren Commission.



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My guess is that you have never gone hunting or shot a bolt action rifle. You may say you but with out indisputable visual evidence I will not believe you. I know this because you actually believe that Oswald couldn't have made the shots. I have several nice bolt action rifles and I guarantee you that I could have those three shots and scored two hits and I am a mediocre shot. 80 yards, fixed position, piece of cake.
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Yeah, you could have hit JFK from 88 yards away from the rear. But you could not have shot him in the throat from the front, nor could you have delivered a head shot from the front of JFK, even if you were the best marksman in the history of the planet.
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And steel can't melt.
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???
Okay, apparently you are referring to the Twin Towers, but I can't tell if you are a 911 Truther or you are mocking them.

So, just for the record, steel did not need to melt for the Twin Towers to fall. Anybody who thinks it does is too ignorant or stupid to be entitled to an opinion on the subject.
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There's actually absolute proof that this wasn't an impossible shot, or even an unlikely one. Back 4-5 years after the assassination, one of the networks decided to recreate the whole scene as closely as they could, and see if it was possible to make the shot. They put up a platform at the correct height of the book depository's window, with a frame recreating the window itself, and then had a cart moving at the appropriate speed and angle, across the window's line of fire. They acquired a bunch of the Italian army surplus rifles Oswald used, and got a group of volunteers (all part of a Baltimore rifle club) to try and recreate the shots, using the rifles. About half the club members hit the target twice with 3 shots within the timeframe; one achieved 3 hits in 3 shots.

Thing is, if it's an impossible shot, the conspiracy theorists are vindicated. So of course that's all you hear, that it's an impossible shot. The fact that it's *not* impossible or even that hard never gets any play.
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From a purely geometrical standpoint - these were easy shots. The range was close and the angles were easy. If anything, what made the shots difficult was the timing. Almost all of the earlier reenactments used as a restriction, 6 seconds. But, as time has marched on and we have learned so much more about the shooting - mostly through technological advances - we now know that the shooting was actually about 8.4 seconds. When you consider that the timing does not begin until the 1st shot is made, the shooter would have 8.4 seconds to work the bolt only twice. Piece of cake!

Anybody who has ever taken the time to visit the Sixth Floor Museum, which is on the 6th floor of the old Texas School Book Depository - and has walked over to the window where Oswald set-up his sniper's nest, readily sees how easy it would have been. [The actual window is surrounded by plexi-glass, but you can get the idea by standing near the adjacent window]. Most people are stunned with how close it is. The cars on Elm Street are passing directly beneath the building and are moving in a direct line away - and DOWNHILL. It's a turkey shoot! You wouldn't even need a rifle with a scope. You could throw bricks out that window and hit cars passing by.

For decades, all these conspiracy books have been proclaiming how impossible the shots were. When you visit the Sixth Floor Museum and see for yourself, that's when you will see what a lie that is. The shooting HAS been duplicated many times. It has even been duplicated using the highly restrictive (and incorrect) 6-second constraint.

Conspiracy theorists base all their arguments on a set of factoids that are simply UNTRUE; yet, they keep repeating them over and over again until they take on a life of their own.
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CBS News - longtime CIA conduit. CIA deeply involved in the JFK assassination. John J. McCloy, one of the cover up artists working for the murderers, vetted that CBS show. His daughter worked for the president of CBS, Richard Stanton, a longtime sycophantic lackey to the murderer of JFK, Lyndon Baines Johnson.
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The author of this article is obviously a conspiracy theorists. To say that the IMPRESSIONS of the Parkland doctors during the 12 chaotic and emotional minutes they spent trying to save the president's life TRUMPS the many hours spent with the president's body by a team of three doctors during the autopsy is ludicrous. If you start with a false premise that the autopsy conducted at the Bethesda Naval Hospital was a conspiratorial cover-up perpetrated by three unsuspecting doctors who were thrust into that position (unwillingly, according to Dr. Humes) - then, I guess, it all makes perfect sense. The Parkland doctors never examined the president's wounds. They never even turned him over! Dr. Perry said that the wound in Kennedy's throat APPEARED to be an entry wound. Had he turned Kennedy over he would've seen a wound that was MUCH more characteristic of an entry wound. One thing is clear from the testimony of all the Parkland doctors who testified before the Warren Commission: 1) They did not examine the president's wounds, 2) They spent very little time with the president's body, 3) They never turned him over, 4) His full head of hair was matted with blood and tissue and it was nearly impossible to make out the details of his head wound.

Kennedy was shot from behind. The autopsy photos & x-rays make that perfectly clear. It is a very elementary medical determination to make. You can clearly see the large flap of scalp torn away from the right/front area of Kennedy's head in the Zapruder film. That's an EXIT wound! It has to be!
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Oswald did it. He was a KGB operative and perhaps Castro was involved. That is the extent of the conspiracy.

When my father first heard the claim that Oswald couldn't possibly get 3 shots off in 6.8 seconds he threw the BS flag. He was a prewar regular and was trained on the '03 Springfield Mauser action rifle. He said anybody in his company could have done it. Here is how it works. First round is in the chamber and the clock started when Oswald pulled the trigger. That leave 3.4 second per shot for the remaining two shots. I can certify that it is easy to keep your eye on the target when you are working the bolt if you are firing from a fixed position 80 yards from the target with a scope. I can empty a 10 round magazine on my 22lr bolt gun inside of 10 seconds and hit the red dot in the center of the target with each shot. Oswald was Marine trained. Even an average Marine is a superior marksman.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=full%20metal%20jacket%20rifle%20range%20scene&FORM=BVLH1#view=detail&mid=47C598D17A3B502A71FF47C598D17A3B502A71FF
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Oswald - US intelligence with a phony public persona as a pro-Castro Marxist. Burned by Machiavellians in US intelligence and murdered by an LBJ mafia goon Jack Ruby. May in fact have been involved in the JFK assassination, but not as a shooter. Another key point: Lee Harvey Oswald was U.S. intelligence and he shot NO ONE on 11/22/63.

1) “Oswald and the CIA” book by John Newman
2) “Spy Saga: Lee Harvey Oswald and US Intelligence” book by Philip Melanson
3) “History Will Not Absolve Us” by Martin Schotz (Chapter 5 “Oswald and U.S. Intelligence” by Christopher Sharrett)
4) “Me and Lee” book by Judyth Vary Baker (Oswald’s mistress in New Orleans, summer 1963)
5) “Destiny Betrayed” by Jim DiEugenio, Chapter 7 “On Instructions from His Government” (2012 edition)
6) “A Certain Arrogance: U.S. Intelligence’s Manipulation of Religious Groups and Individuals in Two World Wars and the Cold War – and the Sacrificing of Lee Harvey Oswald” book by George Michael Evica
7) “Accessories After the Fact” by Sylvia Meagher, Chapter 19 “Oswald and the State Department’”
9) “Coup D’Etat in America: The CIA and the Assassination of John F. Kennedy” by Alan Weberman & Michael Canfield, Chapter 3 “Was Oswald a CIA Agent?”
10) “Oswald in New Orleans: Case for Conspiracy with the CIA” by Harold Weisberg
12) “Oswald: The Truth” by Joachim Joesten (1967)
13) Chapter 9 “Fingerprints of Intelligence” in “Reasonable Doubt” by Henry Hurt
14) Chapter 14 “Oswald and the CIA” in “Oswald: Assassin or Fall Guy” by Joachim Joesten
15) Chapter 12 ” Was Oswald a Government Agent” in “Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why” by Gerald McKnight

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I suggest you read Disinformation by Ion Mihai Pacepa. He was a (former) Communist (heck, one of the heads of the DIE in Romania), and was the highest ranked KGB officer to have ever defected from the USSR. He himself said that there was no JFK conspiracy, that his assassination was all on the Soviets and the Communists (and considering how he was a high-ranked officer in one of the Soviet satellites intelligence agencies and has had mandatory contact from the KGB as a result, I'd say that his word is true due to his experiences). Heck, he even cited a lot of sources from various KGB/Commie defectors to the West proving this. If an ex-Communist who formerly held a high position in a Communist intelligence agency verified that JFK was NOT killed by Johnson or the CIA, then its clear that he wasn't killed by the CIA or by Johnson. And besides, he also mentioned that the conspiracy theories you are clinging to were practically INVENTED by the Communists (and considering how he had formerly been a Communist in Eastern Europe, he'd definitely would know if that were true or not, having lived it). He even cited specific people pushing the theories and publishing them, their codenames, their connections, direct or indirect, with the Soviets, and all that.

Dave Swindle even posted a topic recently on this matter: http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2013/11/01/the-silver-bullet-to-kill-conspiracism/

Now, having neither visited Texas nor actually used a gun, I can't actually prove these things myself, but others can and have, in this topic as well.
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You forgot the most important document -- Foucault's Pendulum.
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If the Oswald was not the shooter, then somebody sure as hell went through a lot of effort to implicate him. In fact, the evidence against Oswald is so plentiful and strong that you would have to wonder why anybody would plant SO MUCH evidence.

Oswald's rifle was the murder weapons, for crissakes!

Somebody SAW him shooting from that window! [Howard Brennan]

Oswald's behavior in the immediate aftermath of the shooting reaks of consciousness-of-guilt. What innocent man behaves in that manner?

Oswald told many provable lies to the authorities. He denied ever owning a rifle. Ridiculous! He denied bringing a "long package" to work that morning even though there were two witnesses who saw him bring it.

He killed a police officer! Why?

He resisted arrest and drew a gun on the officer attempting to apprehend him.

Oswald's rifle was discovered on the same floor as where the sniper's nest was built. His prints are on the rifle! His prints are on the boxes used to build the sniper's nest. Three empty shells were on the floor near that window that were fired from the rifle. 3 Texas School Book Depository employees, watching the motorcade from the window directly beneath the window where shots were fired, HEARD the shots being fired from directly over their head. They could even hear the bolt of the rifle and the expended shells hitting the wood floor.

Oswald had no provable alibi for his whereabouts during the shooting.

He did it. Anybody with common sense knows he did it. His own brother thinks he did it and acted alone.
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The most important clue to the JFK assassination can be found in this Youtube video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMuF1u94cic
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