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Would You Strangle a Cop for Giving Your Wife a Ticket?

The Muslim riots in France came after a husband sought to defend his wife's honor after she received a fine for veiling in public.

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Robert Spencer

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July 22, 2013 - 11:00 am

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This week’s Muslim rioting in France was touched off when a policeman in the town of Trappes gave a ticket to a Muslim woman who was wearing a face veil, in violation of French law. Her husband, enraged at this affront to the family honor, attacked the cop and began trying to strangle him. His arrest in turn enraged his fellow Muslims, and now the rioting is entering its fourth day and has spread to nearby Elancourt, with so far twenty cars torched and Muslims shooting at police.

According to CBS News, France prescribes “small fines or citizenship classes for women wearing veils.” Thus this veiled woman’s offense is roughly the equivalent of getting a parking ticket. Nonetheless, for her husband the ticket was an offense warranting strangulation.

A Western husband might not think that the proper response to his wife’s getting a ticket would be to try to strangle the policeman, but that is precisely what the strangler and the rioters would consider to be a central failing of the West: that it lacks a sense of honor. As the social anthropologist Raphael Patai observed in his monumental The Arab Mind, in Arab culture, “cost what it may, one must defend one’s public image. Any injury done to a man’s honor must be revenged, or else he becomes permanently dishonored.”

Even though most Muslims today are not Arabs, Arab culture has a strong influence upon and large area of overlap with Muslim culture, for Muslims generally bear Arabic names, and are required to pray and read the Qur’an in Arabic, making for a strong Arabic coloring to Islamic religious observance in general. With regard to honor, the devout husband in France may have assumed that if he had not attacked the police officer, he would have stood dishonored for failing to respond to an affront to his family and his religion. Thus once the ticket was issued, the attack on the officer was virtually inevitable.

What’s more, once the policeman had dishonored the Muslim woman who was wearing a veil by giving her a ticket, and once her husband had been arrested for trying to strangle the police officer, the riots were also essentially inevitable. They, too, were a matter of honor. As Patai notes, “there is a strong correlation between honor and group survival. Honorable behavior is that which is conducive to group cohesion and group survival.” Intriguingly, Patai points out that “although Muhammad condemned `asabiyya [family or tribal spirit] as contrary to the spirit of Islam, this could not eliminate it from the consciousness of the Arabs. Ibn Khaldun, the great fourteenth-century theoretician of Arab history, even went so far as to uphold “`asabiyya as the fundamental bond of human society and the basic motivating force in history.”

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Clearly, then, the riots demonstrate that at least some Muslims in France do not identify as French at all, or as members of French society and culture, and that those who may identify as French appear unwilling or unable to stop violence by those who do not. The rioters are not concerned about the cohesion and survival of France. They’re interested solely in the cohesion and survival of the Muslim community in France. In line with this, Patai also states that “what pressures the Arab to behave in an honorable manner is not guilt but shame, or, more precisely, the psychological drive to escape or prevent negative judgment by others.” The negative judgment this husband was escaping by attacking the policeman was clearly not that of the French authorities, but of his fellow Muslims.

These latest riots therefore illustrate what has actually been obvious for years except to the French government, media and intelligentsia: that a significant number of Muslims in France have no interest whatsoever in assimilating and adopting French values. The rioters oppose the law banning face veils because it stands in opposition to Islamic law, which is the only law they respect.

In response to the riots, French Interior Minister Manuel Valls has stood firm that there should not be a separate law for the Muslims in France: “There is no valid reason,” he said, “for the violence seen in Trappes. The law should be applied, and applies to everyone.”

However, he also lamented the “difficulty our fellow citizens have living in these working class neighborhoods, especially young people. What they need is jobs, hope, training.”

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In this, Valls echoes hundreds of European (and American) officials before him, who were certain that improving the financial condition of Muslims could end jihad violence. Although billions of dollars have been devoted to this in innumerable ways around the world, it has never proven true. What Valls and others like him appear to be determined not to grasp is that the Muslims behaving violently in non-Muslim countries generally find justification for their actions not in poverty and joblessness, but in Qur’an and Sunnah, and in the dynamic of Islamic honor.

However, the imperatives to violence against unbelievers contained in Islamic texts and teachings can never ultimately be bought off. Muslims in France whose first allegiance is to Islam will not stop thinking themselves dishonored by the enforcement of French laws that contradict Islamic law, even if they have good jobs and face no societal discrimination. But clearly the French regime has no grasp of this, and no interest in grasping it. And so one thing can be said with absolute certainty about these present riots: they are not the first Muslim riots in France, and they will by no means be the last.

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Robert Spencer is the director of Jihad Watch and author of the New York Times bestsellers The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades) and The Truth About Muhammad. His latest book is Arab Winter Comes to America: The Truth About the War We’re In. Follow him on Twitter here. Like him on Facebook here.

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There is a real dissconnect here. Muslims move out of their own countries, presumably for more freedom and opportunity, and then try to impose exactly what they were fleeing from on the adopted country.
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Poor France! Invaded twice in the 20th century by the Germans and now find themselves with 'house guests' whom also have invaded France - and behave badly in the face of an outright handout. As bad as the living conditions are in the muslim 'barrios' they are much worse in the countries from where they came. The French have the residents 'on the dole' since many cannot find jobs - and why look for a job when the government provides for you?

The French have a real conundrum on their hands - the invaders have little money so are unable to go back to where they came from - and the invaders refuse to live governed by the same laws the 'real' French find not unreasonable. It seems hard to wrap your head around the insult felt by muslims for such laws as making the wearing of veils a petty crime.

I see no good end to this relationship between muslims and Europeans. Either the Europeans will roll over and allow themselves to be taken over by this invasive force or there will be bodies in the streets.

As for this happening in America - not before all Americans are disarmed. And Obama and his ilk are working on that.





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"Arab culture has a strong influence upon and large area of overlap with Muslim culture..."

Very true, but especially true in recent years due to the influence of Saudi Arabia. SA was the most traditional Arab society, and the stronghold of the rigid and reactionary Wahhabist sect of Islam. The enormous oil jackpot made the Saudis the rich uncle of the Moslem world, with lots of money to spend compared to everyone else. They funded extensive religious works - construction and repair of mosques, free schools, books, missionaries to non-Moslems, grants to colleges and universities, salaries for Moslem clerics to serve poor communities... all infused with their very Arab and Wahhabist viewpoint. I estimate that Saudi money is about half the world spending on Islamic religious activity.

The result is that in the last thirty years, some non-Arab Moslem societies have been "Arabized", and Arab Moslems have been Wahhabized.

Saudi money isn't the only cause of this (Iranian Shi'a fundamentalism is a totally separate thing, the Saudis regard Shi'a as heretics) but it's a huge one.
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Scumbags will always be scumbags.
1 year ago
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There is but one proper sanction for such reactionary immigrants. Exile 'em back from whence they came. Modern Sexual Equality cannot survive the veil and the sexual nsecurity and honor killings inspired by the males that insist upon it. Hanging them from the nearest lightpole or letting them burn their neighbors' motor vehicles over days of riots or handing out tickets that will not be paid, none of these will work or are appropriate, nor will martyrdom in jail cells for adhering to the Veil. But read about Lincoln's handling of the Copperhead southern sympathizer Clement Vallandigham running for Ohio governor or some such who violated some military law General Burnside imposed. Burnside was gong to clap him in irons as a traitor, or shoot him as some Union deserters were shot often enough. Far too harsh thought Lincoln, and it would only make him a symbol for the other democratic Copperheads. So he likes the Rebels and slavery thought Lincoln? So Lincoln sent him down there, as an Exile, just like the Greeks used to do with their traitors, cowards and turncoats, and what Benedict Arnold did with himself once he was exposed. Never turns out well for the exiles, wandering homeless and eyeless in Gaza for the rest of their days. So start exiling the traitors against modernity and send them back to the Seventh Century and don't let em back into Europe no matter what. It will work. Incidentally, in 1863, Edward Everett Hale used the example of Vallandigham to write "The Man without a Country," a rather good short story everyone used to read 40 years ago, set in the War of 1812, about a U.S. Navy Lieutenant named Philip Nolan who renounced his country and then lamented his decision in exile aboard a U. S. ship that never made port. Later I found out the story was really about Clement Val. a big deal in 1863, who fled the Confederacy as soon as he could into Canada so he could sneak back into Ohio where he thought he belonged.
1 year ago
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you brought them in and allowed them in your country and made excuses for them and are now reaping the whirlwind of your idiocy.
1 year ago
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There is a real dissconnect here. Muslims move out of their own countries, presumably for more freedom and opportunity, and then try to impose exactly what they were fleeing from on the adopted country.
1 year ago
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" presumably for more freedom and opportunity"

There's your mistake. They are NOT moving for more freedom and opportunity.

They are moving in order to do exactly what they are doing.

They are moving to spread Sharia.
1 year ago
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Well, many who move over actually appreciate the new country, as I understand. It is their children raised in the new country who do not appreciate it.

Major Hasan is an example of this. His parents seem to have behaved themselves, and reached for the American dream. Thier child reached back to his islamic roots.
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I'll also note that the ME has become more Islamist. On the Q&O blog they showed pictures from the American University in Cario from the early 1970s and from the early 2000s. In the '70s everyone wore western dress and it was a 50/50 mix of men and women. In the 2000s it was almost 100% female and they all wore the vail. There are many examples of what is going on, but this provided an interesting graphic.

Personally I think part of the problem is that they perceive the West as weak. In the old days, it was clear the West was strong, and wealthy. The Arabs wanted a share in this, and tended to adopt Western ways. As the West has lost confidence they have tunred back towards their tradinional ideas. Just my theory, and I think it is only a part of the answer.
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Well, the opportunity part is probably right. They want jobs, money, better houses, better cars, etc.

Freedom - it's a contradiction. They want the freedom to practice their brand of Islam. Which, in effect, means they want freedom to be unfree.

Remember, Islam means "submission." That's supposed to be submission to Allah. In practice, for the Muslims in question at least, it means submission to backward Arab tribal customs and and the pronouncements of smelly old men in turbans.
1 year ago
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sort of like the libearals that are fleeing NY and will try and turn other states into NY lite.
1 year ago
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Just like everyone else, they want to have their cake and eat it too. Unfortunately, while the rest of us learn to compromise, the Muslims seem less willing to do so and we usually lack the backbone to insist on compromise. I think we need to be firmer, then the inflexible contingent among the Muslims will self-deport.
1 year ago
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This is one thing Moslems and Progressive Socialists have in common. They flee the wreck of their home state or country and then proceed to attempt to recreate the same mess in thier new home.
1 year ago
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The mass migration of Muslims in the recent decades is no different than the test of this disruption American culture and economy which occurred in 1978 known as the Mariel boatlift. This was a Communist test to see how American and Europeans countries would handle and sustain this type of assault. Once it was determined this mass migration could undermine economies while relieving Communist countries economic problems, it then spread to Middle Eastern Muslim countries as well as South American countries that were undergoing Communist infiltration. It is now a massive weapon that is being used daily to bring down Western culture and economies without using standard weapons.
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And we still have an issue there. Cuban-Americans refer to Miami as the "second largest Cuban city" despite the fact that Miami is in Florida and part of the US. Many Cuban-Americans are Cuba First despite some never having lived there or being very young when they left. See the mess over Elian Gonzalez that cost the US tax payer tens of millions of dollars and a Congressional investigation. See also the issue between Cuban-Americans and blacks that occured when either (I can't remember) Desond Tutu or Nelson Mandela would not disavow Castro. Even now it can be difficult for non Cubans to get jobs in Cuban dominated areas of Florida.
1 year ago
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"....in Arab culture, “cost what it may, one must defend one’s public image. Any injury done to a man’s honor must be revenged, or else he becomes permanently dishonored.”

A fairly common sentiment in primitive cultures.
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And there is a logical cause for this. If we go back to primitive conditions, we will eventually go back to primitive thinking. Women will lose rights, etc. The left thinks that women's rights come from a social movement, and that child labor was ended by government decree. In fact, it was changing economic situations which were the driving factor.
1 year ago
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Chaos brings change. That is the reason for allowing millions of moon god worshipers into the West. It expedites destruction of culture.

May I have some more chaos please.
1 year ago
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Islam is, and will always be, incompatible with western norms. This is more than self evident, and their outrageous reactions, to what they perceive as 'honor' violations, are just additional proof.
Basically, Islam sanctions barbarism in all its forms, be it rioting or beheading and this IS the issue. Sharia Law underpins it all and this is where the crux lies - http://adinakutnicki.com/2013/02/06/islam-barbarism-literally-airplane-dry-runs-too-addendum-to-islam-blood-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/
Sans an Islamic reformation there will be NO peace from this death scourge/cult. None.

Adina Kutnicki, Israel http://adinakutnicki.com/about/
1 year ago
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Greetings:

I just watched a segment on France24 news program called The Debate" that almost dealt with the disorder in Trappestan. The panel included a Muslim City Councillor from the St. Denis suburb who was trying to sell the Islamophobia angle by saying the ban was "unfair" because it was aimed a Muslims.

I'm pretty sure that even Muslims even in La Belle France can't marry six-year old and have sex with with them when they turned nine, but no one on the panel had the nerve to elucidate the darknesses of the Muslim heart.
1 year ago
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Communist France is now reaping that which it has sown; just like communist America will also do.
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