GOP ‘Outreach’ to Hispanics Won’t Work
It’s funny watching all the Bush administration alums on Fox despairing over the necessity of outreach to the Hispanic community. (Also at PJ Media, “Yes, George W. Bush Might Well Be the Last Republican President.”) These were the same people who refused to “dignify” the rabid coordinated leftist attacks on President Bush with a response. It would “just prolong the story,” they told us.
We are still suffering from their failure to understand the left and fight back, as seen by the fact that Ohio exit polls showed voters still blamed Bush for the bad economy. That’s what I call prolonging a story.
All the talk about “appealing” to Hispanics by rewarding the lawlessness of illegal immigration is another example of some Republicans failing to understand the enemy on the left. Racial interest groups beholden to the Democrat Party will not stand down simply because the Republican Party endorses a form of amnesty. To hope that Hispanics will politically drift to the GOP after immigration concessions overlooks the racial stranglehold groups like the NAACP and La Raza (yes, “The Race”) have over political dialogue and organizing.
I saw the same Bush-era racial naivete play out in 2006 when Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act was up for renewal. Many in the GOP viewed the renewal as a “chance to reach out to minorities.” Sound familiar?
The Bush administration and the then-chairman of the House Judiciary Committee deliberately decided to give the NAACP and the other racial groups whatever they wanted in the reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act. The offer was accepted and the NAACP and MALDEF asked for the reversal of two Supreme Court cases by statute that had the effect of allowing “any” discriminatory effect to justify an objection to a law under the Voting Rights Act. (I have written about the complicated legal changes extensively here at PJ Media and will not do so again in this post.) This 2006 change was directly responsible for blocking voter ID laws in Texas and South Carolina in 2010 and citizenship verification laws in Georgia in 2009.
The Republicans were proud of their minority outreach in the summer of 2006. President Bush signed the law in a White House ceremony with the race hustler Al Sharpton and other familiar faces in attendance. Surely this “outreach” would buy peace for the Republicans, right?
Wrong. No sooner had the ink dried on the paper than all of the race groups turned on President Bush. The next two years heard a constant drumbeat in the media and from some of the same people invited to the signing ceremony that Bush was an “enemy of minority rights.” The racial groups were particularly venomous toward the administration.








I agree completely with your premise, but how on earth do you set about to destroy the credibility groups like the NAACP? The MSM will decimate anyone who attacks them, and the only people the articles would actually reach are ‘conservatives’. Liberals will dismiss any criticism as racist, and pounce accordingly.
Not sure. But I hope you read my book. There are some ideas in there.
I think we have to start calling court-created wedge issues out for what they are.
If you get rid of Roe abortion goes away as a federal matter.
The same thing with immigration. Get rid of Plyler v Doe and commonsense returns to the immigration debate. Where is the logic in requiring governmental agencies to abet lawbreaking?
I think few of us have strong objections to the claimed intent of things like the Dream Act. It’s the camel’s nose thing we are concerned about.
Lookk to Chicago
Rod Blagojevich made a deal
http://illinoispaytoplay.com/2012/11/08/1161/
Here’s an idea: the republican party has a new reality to reckon with. They will adapt or they will die.
I think David Simon nails it:
“This election marks a moment in which the racial and social hierarchy of America is upended forever. No longer will it mean more politically to be a white male than to be anything else. Evolve, or don’t. Swallow your resentments, or don’t. But the votes are going to be counted, more of them with each election. Arizona will soon be in play. And in a few cycles, even Texas. And those wishing to hold national office in these United States will find it increasingly useless to argue for normal, to attempt to play one minority against each other, to turn pluralities against the feared “other” of gays, or blacks, or immigrants, or, incredibly in this election cycle, our very wives and lovers and daughters, fellow citizens who demand to control their own bodies.”
http://davidsimon.com/inevitabilities-and-barack-obama/
Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.
Everyone must remember that the vote of an illiterate laborer counts just as much as your vote.
Mr. Adams, what groups can people join to defend voter integrity?
Local groups. Work the polls as an officical. Or True the Vote.
The democrats have instituted a deliberate strategy of ,dividing white people ,from minorities. Their lying media have perpetrated it. Think back to the dog whistle phrases. The GOP, if they wanted to stoop to this strategy, could emphasize the conflicts between blacks and Latino’s. Eg. George Zimmermann is only being prosecuted because he is a Latino that shot a black man. Eric Holder, a black AG is , sending a message to all Latinos , I have the black man’s back!
The reason Holder gave guns to Mexican drug cartels, is because he doesn’t care about a few Mexicans lives. Blacks don’t care about Latino lives.
See how easy, and despicable it is. This is what the democrats have done to whites, especially white men.
I agree completely that this is one reason Fast and Furious should be pursued. Many Mexicans were killed, and the Mexican government was not even informed of the program. Tell me that the Holder crew really cares about Hispanics.
I am more worried about the 38% of White people that didn’t vote for Romney.
When 90% of Blacks vote for Obama in spite of how his stewardship has affected them, then we are in a slow-motion race war.
And when you are in a race war, your skin is your uniform.
And a third of our troops were fighting for the other side.
(So much for a “post-racial” America, huh?”
A lot of the white people who didn’t vote for Romney or who expressed less enthusiasm for doing so may have been due to the fact that he is a Mormon and not a Christian. A lot of Christian evangelicals view Mormonism as a cult. I’m surprised more attention was not paid to this during the election. It was the big elephant in the room everybody ignored. Even the candidate himself didn’t talk about it, not even a little.
“A lot of the white people who didn’t vote for Romney or who expressed less enthusiasm for doing so may have been due to the fact that he is a Mormon and not a Christian.”
Really? Do you have any evidence to offer to support that assertion, or is it apocryphal?
“A lot of Christian evangelicals view Mormonism as a cult. I’m surprised more attention was not paid to this during the election.”
Are you? Who would have brought it up? Barack H. Obama?
And then we would respond with “Rev.” Jeremiah Wright’s “Greatest Hits”, played on an endless loop…REALLY LOUDLY.
If it’s a surprise to you that Romney’s faith wasn’t made an issue, then you must have been comatose for 2008.
“It was the big elephant in the room everybody ignored. Even the candidate himself didn’t talk about it, not even a little.”
There are cults, and then there are CULTS…if one of my children told me he had been baptized LDS, and another child told me had converted to Islam, guess which child I’d be more upset with?
I know about as many Mormons as I’ve known Muslims, and pal o’ mine, lemme tell ya, Provo beats Bahrein any day of the freakin’ week, and six ways to Sunday.
I am more inclined to think it was not the fact that Romney was a Mormon that lost all those people but other factors: His infamous “47%” comment, Obama campaign’s very sophisticated ground game that saw to it the base got to the polls in key battleground states & the Romney campaign’s failure to properly address all the lies told about him by the Obama campaign.
Thats a good but Micro strategy. I see that being effective only in the places where there are currently more blacks than Latinos, and there hasnt been a large Latino gang presence (e.g. more paisas than thugs). Being from the south side/South Suburbs and NW Indiana part of Chicago, I have little to no sympathy for the blacks that got driven from South Central Los Angeles. But because the way this nations’ entertainment and athletics are structured, a lot of people are far too sympathetic.
Agreed. If you dare speak up at work, the mean-faced clip-haired HR lesbian will make sure you have to watch a “diversity” video and probably get fired and get a lawsuit for racism.
We should be looking at the demise of “the melting pot”. It was progressives who rehabilitated the notions of “race” and “ethnicity” as predictive of behavior. Such terms undermined the very notion of liberal nationalism put forth by such as Charles Sumner in the 19th century, who defined nationalism as a state that protected the collectivity of individuals, not groups defined by color or other superficial characteristics. See http://clarespark.com/2011/06/16/the-antiquated-melting-pot/.
For my latest blog on the racialist notion of “demographic change” (that I view as a cover for the race card), see http://clarespark.com/2012/11/08/the-demographic-change-explanation-is-racist/. I hail J. Christian Adams for his article, a breath of fresh air.
Criticize specific leaders for specific things that they have said that contribute towards racial antagonism and division.
Condemning the NAACP as a group will fail because the group stands for the ideal of racial equality, and to condemn one is to condemn the other.
“stands for the ideal of racial equality”
not true
The NAACP used to stand for racial equality. Today it’s nothing more than a mainstreamed version of Stormfront.
No. The NAACP has never “stood for the equality of peoples”. Just look at the name,”…for the advancement of colored people”; meaning negroes.NOT white people. Only colored(black) people. Blacks to be favored at the expense of whites. Blacks to be affirmed and whites to necessarily be negated. But the blacks will lose out, over the next forty years or so, as latinos, principally mexicans, breed themselves into dominance. Shortly they will be the majority, and impervious to demands from blacks, whites, or asians. Culturally they are, with but few exceptions, lawless, lazy, greedy, stupid, hysterical and lots of other unsavory things. They are genetically incapable of planning effectively and acting lawfully. Their priorities are always confused. Their commitments mean nothing. Theirs is always the path of least resistance. Bravado is valued over accomplishment; noise above melody; color above meaning. They are commanche indians, time-transported into an era far in the future. They are donkey carters driving SUVs. They are juvenile shoplifters operating international banks. Their main export is dope, and their main import is foreign aid. And our demonrats and repukeican leaders profit from and love it.
At the point where the race groups have 95% of their voters against you there isn’t much more damage they can do to you. Republicans don’t really have anything to lose by going after the race mongers and everything to gain. If Republicans can ever get 25% of the Black vote the damage to Democrats will be enormous.
If citizenship/amnesty were the issue, McCain would have gotten the hispanic vote. It is about freebies.
If you want to get the black vote, apparently impossible with 0bama, you could have a black candidate, like Caine, but not a womanizer, but the freebies would shift the balance, especially with 0bama running. He can’t next time of course, but it comes down to the freebies.
We could have the guy from Florida run, but again, freebies would shift the balance.
So, the only way is to get hispanics jobs, specifically nonunion, and the same with blacks. You also need to get them jobs that pay enough to actually pay a net income tax.
With all the grants and race based scholarships, I don’t see much else that can be done besides community outreach, which will be continuously mocked by the same NAACP that said it was too much to expect blacks to start a business when they don’t even have a bank account (I would demand different representation if I were them; its a shame to be led by people that think so little of them.)
So, with Republicans keeping the house even after years of being blamed for everything, and 0bama still winning, what are they to do? I say, let 0bama’s supporters get what they voted for. Give him what he wants, and let the misery ensue. However, it would be wise for those with means to get out of town, donate as much as they can deduct, etc. or their money will be confiscated to insulate 0bama supporters from the poverty of his policies. We need to let people fall on their face to wake up from this nightmare.
I watched and read the transcript of Romney’s speech at the NAACP national meeting in TX. Besides the well-published booing, Romney also got some moderate applause on school choice and some other points, I don’t recall.
Why not take the grassroots idea from the Progressives and start little conservative offices in the ghettos. Start small, perhaps Newark, NJ – Mayor Booker is an extremely smart man and I think he wants to improve things, but is stymied by the NJ Dem Machine.
Conservative ideals like free markets and others are demagogued and the meanings changed by lib politicians and the unfriendly media. Even Fox lets interviewees get by with unchallenged disinformation. This must be successfully countered for GOP to survive. Mothers are crying when their kids don’t win the lottery for charter school admittance, so there is common ground to build on. NOLA has ALL charter schools since Katrina recovery. Some are stellar and some are good to middling.
Have you reviewed Newt’s “Renewing American Civilization” series lately, this was an epiphany for me when it came out on CSPAN in 1995, I believe it was. Perhaps a new mastering on Blue Ray would be a good instructional tool, especially when you see how things have changed for the worse over time.
Constructive thoughts. We’ll never win over any minorities by trying to out pander the Democrats. Instead, let’s offer what we know best: opportunity in private enterprise. Set up special enterprise zones in minority areas, etc. Create some minority businessmen NOT beholden to the government. Recruit some to run for office. Begin to reverse the prog’s carefully crafted image of the Republicans as a white man’s party. Then they will not be minorities bribed into voting Republican/conservative; they will BE conservatives.
all fine an dwell said – but when whites reproduce at less than 2 kids even in married households and 40% of kids are born to unwed mothers – your whistling past the figurative graveyards – abortions, anyone? see various Spengler posts.
until marriage with children in encouraged and single motherhood is condemned fugedaboutit.
forgive my typos – need a preview function.
The good news is that the whites that are not reproducing are mostly left wing secular types(Spengler). Secular Jews are reproducing at an even lower rate. The ones reproducing here in the US are Evangelicals, conservative Catholics, Orthodox Jews, Pentecostals and Mormons. Evangelicals and Pentecostals are two fastest growing groups here amongst all ethnic groups, especially amongst Hispanics. It looks bad for freedom now but the future might just be good because the secularists are destroying themselves by killing their babies.
You hit on a solution. Culturally, we have got to move from consumerism to valuing the more transcendental, like family. My wife and I (Catholics, but not doctrinaire) plan to sacrifice earnings power so we can have a large family. 1 now, 1 due in December and plans for 2 more. We have become so selfish as a people that 2 kids is now considered maximum effort. A colleague of mine doesn’t understand how one could raise 4 children without a nanny (he and his wife raise 2 with a full time nanny), but it is so very easy once one overcomes the material. This may take generations, but I truly believe we eventually will choose to work less (yes, work less) and engage in more transcendental activities.
That problem will solve itself as this permanent depression continues. When everybody’s dirt poor, the materialism social dynamic will go away.
Do you mean because everyone will be too put down to do work?
Because, it doesn’t matter how poor a community is, someone will want something of someone else’s, once they know it exists.
And so will the people for whom there is insufficient food, shelter, medical care, transportation, even water.The global elite, the CFR types, want to “eliminate” about 85% of the world’s population, so that the perfect ones, eg, fatass Al Gore, can live in luxury, served by a serf class living in poverty. Don’t think so? Then just obtain and read a couple of years worth of Foriegn Affairs, the CFR yellow sheet.
But don’t respond by doing the Samson thing… it didn’t work out well for him.
Yes, but it will take more-such as removing your kids’ future competition. In “blue” states that will not be possible. In red-blooded American states, it can happen. Recommendations (caveat-the following requires the GOPers to actually grow a pair, or at least one pair to share between them):
1. Lobby red state legislatures to adopt Arizona’s professional license penalties for hiring illegals.
2. Make any employer who, if a) are caught employing illegals a second time, and b) an illegal in their employ commits any mala in se crime (vandalism, rape, robbery, murder, etc.), then c) the employer shall be criminally and civilly liable. This removes heat from honest employers and places it where it belongs, on those pulling a fast one by hiring illegals.
3. Lobby red state legislatures to enact no services for illegals and their children (except emergency medical care).
a. Enforce the ban on welfare, housing, etc. even if federal courts demand otherwise. If a federal judge gets pushy, condemn any of their property in the state under eminent domain to compensate those injured/unemployed because of illegals.
b. Impeach and remove and state judge who sides with the illegals on this matter. Condemn their property under eminent domain as well.
4. Impose strict ID requirement for voting.
5. Since it cannot happen on the federal level, use public records act requests to secure absentee voter registrations from other states. Compare for any duplicate entries between the state and any other state (a la True the Vote’s recent findings on duplicates between Florida and New York). Investigate any duplicates to see if they voted in the state. If yes, prosecute. This will dry up some of the room for illegals voting.
6. Match against SSA’s record of deceased persons to ID bogus registrations and “live” persons who should be dead. Purge from voter registration rolls and pursue ID theft charges.
7. Since 4, above, will reveal ID theft, pursue ID theft charges where appropriate.
8. Subpoena records of AT&T, Verizon, and other companies for any individual/personal accounts which appear in multiple states. Illegals often hijack IDs of people from other states and use the IDs for phone, utility, and other services. AT&T would be a prime target for subpoena.
9. Work with AZ to bus captured illegals and their children directly to the border. Herd ‘em back over to Mexico. Close gate.
10. Work with private property owners along the border to build barriers to slow down illegals.
11. Gotta go. Some of us are still employed.
I think one reason the Republicans failed in this election is their refusal to discuss “social issues.” This may have been defensive on Romney’s part due to his religion, but any future candidates must face the fact that we can’t solve our economic problems without solving our social problems. Take the decline of marriage: nearly or actually half of all births in the US now are out of wedlock. Often there are multiple births by multiple fathers.
The left began attacking the only biologically sound marriage arrangement decades ago by redefining a “family” as basically any group of people that chooses to live together. This has been a disaster. Even the New York Times acknowledged in an article this year that as much as 40% of poverty in the US is due to single parenthood – that means largely women as heads of households.
The Democrats provide incentives for this through direct financial support that enables groups of related women to live together without working. Indirect support is provided by their allies in the media who invent “alternative lifestyles” and push their acceptance. Conservatives are exercised by the advance of genderless marriage, but it is only an additional nail in the coffin.
A family headed by a mother and a father is the acknowledged best environment for raising children. Within such a family children learn trust, how to relate to others, and to accept limits. Fathers are particularly important in the process to both boys and girls. Rather than claiming a God-driven reason to support the “traditional family,” why can’t we point out that undermining the nuclear family (for lack of a better word) is bad social policy and has consequences that will iterate through generations? Rather than reaching out in this way, conservatives have made themselves the targets of humorists and others by using religious language.
I hope that Republicans do not decide that the way to win elections is to become a carbon copy of the Democrats. First of all they would not be convincing and second of all we know appeasement doesn’t work. Churchill spent many years in the political wilderness and that is what Republicans must do. They must find candidates who can better articulate conservative principles and how they apply to life and work.
Hey, let’s make illegal immigration legal. Don’t stop there, let’s make illegal murder legal, illegal rape legal. Whoo hoo, no limits!
The antidote is to offer a real alternative, not a wishy washy one, thus hoping to bring in ‘the other’, on little more than smoke and mirrors.
The fact of the matter is that race-hustlers have OVERTAKEN the Dem party, and all its power centers. They have been working at it for decades. Therefore, their natural targets/audiences are so called minorities, and they promise them the moon.
The answer is a counter revolution/reformation; its basis must be in actually capturing or creating alternatives choices. In other words, the fact that the Conservative movement allowed Dem hustlers to OVERTAKE the public schools, has de facto handed them control to indoctrinate generations of foot soldiers!
The question becomes – how willing are Conservative groups to really fight back, but not only in trying to capture this or that seat, but to regain the hearts and minds of the next generation?
Leftist dogma is the same world over, and fighting it must be a priority – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/07/01/leftist-dogma-the-same-world-over-freedom-loving-people-beware-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki-32-2/
These efforts are not for the weak willed.
Adina, I am a libertarian and a goy. Romney lost in part because his campaign screwed libertarians. Not all libertarians are foreign policy idiots. As a retired intelligence officer, I know without a doubt that this world is a dangerous place. I support Israel and freedom everywhere. Choose your friends wisely!
BS! You screwed yourselves by hitching your wagon to Ron Paul, who IS a foreign policy idiot. And then doubled-down on Gary Johnson, whose “bold vision” revolved around legalizing pot. Wow! And you wonder why the rest of us don’t take you seriously. When you’re ready to put forward serious candidates who actually HAVE a foreign policy clue and don’t insult everybody’s intelligence by focusing on legalizing drugs then you’ll be taken seriously.
“Romney lost in part because his campaign screwed libertarians” I agree. Romney’s team stiff-armed the Tea Party and Ron Paul supporters at the convention, even going so far as to replace the majority of Maine’s duly-elected delegates with Romney-ites. Some may find it informative to learn that, although Obama won New Mexico by a full 10%, Gov Gary Johnson was elected there twice by a full 10%. If the GOP wants to win again in presidential election years, it needs to stop filtering out candidates who are not social conservatives.
Yes! I don’t think many here understand that. Conservatives are stuck in the Norman Rockwell image of America. They have to let go of that image and stick to the core principles, the solid decent roots of Conservatism. Otherwise they give the race peddlers exactly what they need to ensnare more people with their lies.
Adina, you’re probably right. The first thing Republicans need is voter ID everywhere. There are too many pitfalls in the election system.
Publicize the reaction of the UN election observers to our lack of voter ID.
I agree, but fear nothing can be done. The floodgates are open and there is no fulcrum to turn them back. The Dem Party openly crows about the coming demo shift, as do those demos themselves.
The strange disconnect is why Latin Americans think more Hispanics in America won’t simply turn America into Latin America. The answer is that they don’t even think about such things. A better life is a better life today and devil take the hindmost.
When you think of men mining sulphur with their hands and carrying it on deformed shoulders from volcanoes in Java or people sleeping in front of closed storefronts in Rio de Janeiro, it’s any port in a storm. Whether the storm follows their grand children and eventually destroys the port is not the type of thinking that’s in the cards.
That’s for us to consider, but we’ve been shut down by cries of racism. Immigration will never be dealt with in America, neither legal or illegal. To do so today is political suicide. Greeks are trying to stem the flow and being compared to Stormfront. In a hundred years China will hand America a non-interference pact by way of a fait accompli while they empire-build in Asia and South America.
I wouldn’t want to live in America in 50 or 100 years. Everything’s relatively fine today; it’s the calm before the storm. A slippery slope of a storm where it’ll destroy so slowly only old people will have a vision of a thing lost, and they’ll be laughed at.
Fail, think charging Al Capone with tax evasion. We should work to pass local laws to impound the cars of people driving without a drivers license or liability insurance. We should work to pass laws that greatly increase the penalties for identity theft. We should end bilingual education. These are all things we can do at the state and local level.
We have a fair amount of assimilation and intermarriage here in Texas. I think we can assimilate all the Asians that come here at the present rate. I have some hope that Latinos can be absorbed too provided that public education is retooled to require English proficiency and knowledge of American History. Locally we have some churches that are taking on some of this education job. George W Bush showed that it’s possible for a Republican to get more than a third of the Latino vote.
may be too late for States to take action and defend themselves from the onslaught. Dems racist voting game has gone beyond west coastal blue states and pathetic northeast, and now spreads to midwest, Florida, Colorado, New Mexico. Heck, Montana again electing a Dem Governor? Too bad. It’s the cities loaded up with the enemies of freedom. Would have been a great experiment to peacefully divide between Red America and Blue Amerika and see where normal people would want to live, who would be successful. Look at bright side. Odumbo is preserving alot of natural resources for the future should America rise again, by not wasting coal, oil, etc on the takers/fakers. Unfortunately, not a scenario of rising again for many generations, if ever, it appears.
We already have such laws for drivers. The fact is, when it comes to this subject and immigration, the police are either overwhelmed, or told to stand down because they have no practical jurisdiction.
As for assimilation, liberals have radicalized ethnic groups politically and give out rewards by way of quota systems or welfare. The promise of the reward may outweigh the actual delivery but when you tell people enough times the GOP hate you and it’s repeated in school, music, TV and film, people get brainwashed.
“Greeks…being compared to Stormfront.”
If you’re referring to the Golden Dawn movement, they sure do look reminiscent of Nazis to me:
http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/4fa6ad6d69bedd836b000000-560-420/golden-dawn.png?maxX=270&maxY=202
http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2012/10/11/Foreign/Images/146479411.jpg
I know about that, and I don’t necessarily disagree with it. However, radicalization works both ways. Why are these people in a country of only 10 million being forced to see it as an airport at the disposal of any Pakistani or Somalian clever enough to arrive and squat illegally? In case you’re not paying attention, Greece has tremendous unemployment, neighborhoods full of crime basically taken over by foreigners and a tremendous wave of illegals arriving. What’s the flip side of diversity, put in other words? Less whites.
I can’t be bothered with demonizing whites who are being marginalized specifically because they are white. Liberal diversity, in racial terms, is simply Stormfront-lite mainstreamed, given credibility, and stood on its head. Now Greece NEEDS more people of color? Please, someone tell me why. Does Africa then need an influx of whites. No, no. Libs won’t go for that one. It’s Orwellian racial hypocrisy and why liberals are blithely racist swine.
Greece is falling apart. You can only fit so many people inside a phone booth. And it’s worse when the phone doesn’t work.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/11/01/ripped-apart-by-financial-crisis-greek-society-in-free-fall/?intcmp=obnetwork
Had an interesting conversation this morning with a manager-level, Puerto Rican colleague in my office. Devout Catholic. Retired military. I didn’t ask but I think he voted for Obama. Why? Didn’t trust Romney: extremely anti-(illegal) immigration, lack of empathy with average Americans (including Hispanics), wouldn’t release tax returns, REALLY rich, 47% video really hurt, demonstrated how Romney really feels. Didn’t think Romney was serious about abortion, flip-flopped on this and other issues.
My colleague also had to admit that too many Hispanics were afraid of losing Govt benefits if Romney had been elected.
“My colleague also had to admit that too many Hispanics were afraid of losing Govt benefits if Romney had been elected.”
Your colleague is more correct than you think.
I myself am Puerto Rican, and I can tell you for sure that the welfare state is totally dominant in modern Puerto Rican culture – here and in the island. People there, at least when I was growing up, used to think that doing well for yourself by hard work and playing by the rules was the way to go. My father owned a grocery store and would adamantly not depend upon anybody but himself – that’s what his family taught him. (Maybe that’s why he died of a stroke in less than a day.) Unfortunately, the narco wars and the Democrats there in the two dominant political parties (both pro-Statehood and pro-Commonwealth parties send delegates to the DNC!) have twisted the whole thing into tasty but totally convoluted and intestine-churning pretzel. The fiscal situation over there is even worse: there are already more people on government benefits than working, and those who work already pay through the nose.
If my father were alive today, he’d be insulting his very own people for choosing welfare over work. He would have fumed in fury and declared WAR just after hearing The One’s “You didn’t build that!” screech against business owners. He would have voted for Romney. But I digress, since his type has become the exception in PR, not the rule.
Do you also know that Puerto Rico just voted to become a State of the Union? Oh yeah. And do you know what was the biggest draw? You guessed it – “More Federal benefits.”
In the past, I would have danced for joy, since I supported Statehood. Today, after looking at Uncle Sam’s accounting books, I would tell them, “Corran! Alejense de ellos!” – “Run! Run far away from them!”
For the first time, I disagree with J. Christian Adams.
First off, Hispanics are not the only immigrants. There are Indian software engineers, Chinese biologists, European investment bankers, et al. they are also immigrants. And they help America compete in the world. The perceived GOP anti-immigrant ethos also affects them. But more importantly, Mr. Adams sucumbs to the fallacy of over-generalization when he refers to all undocumented immigrants – as ‘lawless’. Mr. Adams is a lawyer. He should know better.
He uses this phrase, “…rewarding the lawlessness of illegal immigration”. But he does not define exactly what he means by ‘illegal immigration’. This leads me to believe his experience at DOJ did not involve immigration cases. That’s because ‘illegal immigration’ is not a legal term of art. It carries no legal meaning. But it is emotionally and politically-loaded. If he had worked on immigration cases, shame on him. He knows that phrase would get his case dismissed as soon as he used it. Or at the very least, an impatient judge would demand to know what he meant by that loose language.
Mr. Adams is one of my heroes. So giving the benefit of the doubt to his political point, I have to point out, the GOP has lost Colorado, Florida and Nevada two election cycles in a row. It is not competitive in California or New Mexico. Maybe it is time to stop alienating culturally conservative Catholic Latinos. Maybe – and I say this with respect to Mr. Adams – maybe the GOP has something more to offer them than La Raza.
Stayed tuned to PJ for an article specifically dealing with South Asians (“Indian software engineers”). The hustlers are at work on this group too.
And to have millions of people in the country breaking the law, and an administration welcoming them through administrative fiat – yes I will call that lawless and stick by it.
You also miss the KEY POINT of the post – I agree with you it is time to start welcome culturally conservative Hispanics. But until you wipe out the multi-million dollar race interest groups that exist to keep them in the Democrat orbit – ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS WILL FAIL. The GOP must knock down the ramparts before getting into the keep. While La Raza exists, there is nobody inside the GOP that has any idea how to “stop alienating” Hispanics. Because everything will soon after be converted into cries of alienation. Perhaps you don’t have much experience with these racial interest groups. Understanding them is the key to understanding this post.
Guess what: we don’t “need” their help. Was America broken at some point?
As for pedantry involving legal terms, that’s all it is, pedantry. You know full well what is meant. Illegals have no moral, ethical or legal right to come to America. On this issue, misplaced compassion is the same thing as not understanding how many people can fit into a telephone booth.
If I want to live in an enclave of Muslims, Latinos or Sikhs, I’ll move to Egypt, Guatemala City or Amritsar. No one wants to. Let them fix their own houses. We redesigned the place, tamed it, fought wars, formed unions. We have the right to enjoy the benefits without being told, “By the way, this isn’t ‘yours.’”
Enclaves make sense for the first generation or two. The people can learn from one another how the American system works, but these enclaves have to encourage the children to go out into the wider world. When I lived in Philly many years ago, I loved the Italian market and the many restaurants in Chinatown. But I never assumed that all Italians or Chinese in these areas were cutting themselves off from the wider culture.
I also think about older Turks in Germany who assumed they woud be returning to Turkey at some point. Now they are retired and have learned that the Turkey they left decades ago no longer exists and they are beginning to open care facilities for the elderly that offer a mixed Turkish/German culture.
The big problem is trying to tie the young to a world of wonderful memories that overlook the reasons the immigrants immigrated in the first place.
Or paraphrasing Obama, ‘if you’ve got a country, you didn’t build that’
“Maybe it is time to stop alienating culturally conservative Catholic Latinos.”…
Substitute Blacks/Gays/Single Mothers/Gays/Perennial Welfare Sucks or any of a dozen other Single Issue groups for Latinos and the answer is the same..
Race outweighs everything else for 95% of Blacks and Latinos and free stuff/special rights outweigh everything else for the other groups.
I don’t see any way for conservatives to appeal to these groups. The best we can hope for is that the present social/economic policy completely fails and starves them out.
Vote fraud is also a major part of the picture.
The nefarious organizations you named in this article are no doubt involved in massive vote fraud on behalf of the Democrat party.
Great article here. The Democrats are the PLO of American politics, a political terrorist organization. They will never relent, never give in, the will never want peace until their enemy is driven into the ocean. Perfect example: Obamacare will be a single payer within time. It was always their goal, it just wasn’t presented and implimentend as such in order to originaly sell it. They got their toe hold in with the passing and Supreme Court green light, they want to overwhelm the system, bankrupt insurance companies, drive costs to skyrocket and have the people turn to big Gov. for relief, hence there will be single payer. The GOP is Charlie Brown and the football has been moved again by Lucy. This is war and we need to fight back with overwhelming force in order to win. Otherwise go home, cower into the corner, because the American PLO is coming after you.
Republicans voted overwhelmingly for civil rights and blacks were so grateful they’ve been the strongest voting bloc in our history for Democrats.
The same thing will happen with Mexicans. Amnesty will just increase Democrat vote tallies, even if every single Republican votes for it.
America is lost, prepare for Armageddon. How hard is it to imagine hostile armies circling Israel, preparing for the final strike.
Women always naturally crave after more primitive, aggressive genes. The GOP was never going to last in the long run after universal suffrage.
The D’s have done a very good job of appealing to emotions like jealousy, fear, and class envy.
You are right, and their most successful campaign of fear and resentment was the campaign carried out in 2005, after George Bush had won 40% of the Latino vote the Fall before. Most people seem to have forgotten what they did, but a short memory can kill you. That was the year of big marches by Latinos in cities all over the country, asking or demanding (depends on whose sign you read) to be recognized as equals, amnesty and so forth. The marches I saw were composed mostly of nice people, families, waving American flags, although some were waving the flags of the countries they came from, and there is nothing wrong with that really. But also in those crowds were obvious provocateurs with some really nasty signs, and those guys didn’t look like they fit in with the rest either. I didn’t know what was going on then, but it is obvious now. It was a campaign by the Dems, through “community organizers” like La Raza, to stir up resentment and backlash among conservative and patriotic Americans against the Latinos. Before then nobody was complaing about Latinos -remember? We took the bait like an angry bull before a red flag, and they slipped the sword in as all the Latinos went running back to the Democratic Party. We are still charging that red flag while we slowly bleed to death. If you will pardon the extended metaphor, our knees just went down in this election while the crowd roars and the community-organizer-in-chief shakes hands with La Raza. We don’t call ourselves the stupid party for nothing.
Let me just add that 2004 was the year Obama rose to prominance in the Democratic Party. Everybody laughs and says “Community organizer? Ha! What the hell is that?”
The Gop was never going to survive the triangulation Karl Rove manipulated between evangelicals, tea party, and establishment Republicans the last several years, these groups are at odds with each other.
Norquist / Rove and company knew exactly who was going to win this election months ago, now its a question of misleading the Koch brothers and rest of the money pool and to what extent.
The decline of the Roman Empire began with invasions from the north.Not invasions really but groups who had lost battles,and families in search of safe lands.From what is now France and Germany these new groups were offered land to join the efforts to defend the empire.Things went wrong and the newcomers turned on the indignant locals who were eventually slaughtered for their farms.The Empire shrank and it became too late to defend their borders.
Right you are. Imagine if Herman Cain or Susana Martinez were the candidate. It wouldn’t help at all. Pandering, appeasement, etc., will never work. It’s not so much a matter of race, but keeping certain groups resentful and dependent. That begins in the education system.
Pandering is not outreach. Democrats do pandering and condescension.
Real outreach is a prolonged campaign of going to them and talking about how Republican and conservative policies align with their values, and how Democrat policies might seem beneficial on the surface, but that they have a long term negative effect.
And keep repeating the message.
I agree, although it’s unclear if J. Christian’s plan is incompatible with your idea. Perhaps it is not. I think the emphasis on the family is a good place to start. Asians and Hispanics both value the family more highly than blacks and, increasingly, whites. Our country is built around the family as an economic unit, and that’s a pretty good place to start.
The GOP has deep problems. The Democrats get:
100% of the perjured President vote
112% of the dead vote
100% of the pedophile vote
100% of the felon vote
100% of the parasite vote
What can the GOP do to capture the perjured President, zombie, pedophile, felon and parasite votes? We’re completely losing these important, and growing, demographics. Some say we need a third party, I say that’s wrong! We need one party. If we just join the Democratic Party then we’ll get all of the important voting blocs voting for us. Yeah for us! No more will the perjured Presidents, zombies, pedophiles, felons and parasites have to suffer the ignominy of voting for Democrats, they can vote for the Party of Values! They can vote Republican (in lapel pin only) and we’ll win! Win all of those important offices to do great things! And how could we not… with perjured Presidents, zombies, pedophiles, felons and parasites shaping the agenda? Yes my friends, let’s form one party, the Great Party of Nothing.
However,let me be clear… we’ll be the party of zombies and pedophiles but we will draw the line, absolutely and without question, at zombie pedophiles… until they’re 0.001% of the electorate.
Well, I don’t know if it’s a question of just getting Hispanic votes. The sad fact of the matter is, and I hate to say it, but America isn’t too bright.
Think about it. If you logically looked at Obama’s record, there is not one metric that shows that he was a success. Not one. Whether it’s unemployment, the economy, taxes, the “stimulus,” Obamacare, or GDP growth. So what got Obama elected? A combination of offering everybody “free stuff” (such as entitlements) and the “Pimp with a Limp.”
Obama really didn’t have one serious interview or press conference during the last six months of the election. He went on The View, David Letterman, The Tonight Show, The Daily Show, the “Pimp with a limp” radio show, other rap and hip-hop radio shows, and did interviews with Us and Rolling Stone magazines. Basically, he was selling himself like a whore, which is only appropriate that he went on The Pimp with a Limp radio show. So that’s what politics today is all about, how you can sell yourself to the masses and on the most useless entertainment formats there are. Politics today is nothing more than mass market entertainment. It cracked me up when the mainstream media asked Romney about “specifics” in his economic plan. Specifics? When did those same people once ask Obama what his economic plans or goals were for his next four years? And if you have a good Public Relations team working for you, like JZ or Bruce Springsteen, and can promise a boatload of free stuff to just about every minority there is, you too will be the next president of the United States.
And when these same people understand, really understand, that they will be hurt the worst when the economy does NOT get better and that we don’t have the money for all their precious entitlements, then I wonder what The Pimp with a Limp will say? Oh, that’s right, it’s all Bush’s fault.
And when these same people understand, really understand, that they will be hurt the worst when the economy does NOT get better and that we don’t have the money for all their precious entitlements, then I wonder what The Pimp with a Limp will say?
It won’t matter what they say. By that time the goose that laid the golden eggs will have been killed. Not only will there be no money for their entitlements, fewer people will work (what’s the point if you get nothing for your effort?) and it will be every person for himself. Government can’t extort money from people who can’t (or won’t) earn it. Eventually, money won’t be worth the paper it’s printed on. All the gold in Fort Knox won’t matter. It won’t feed, clothe or shelter anyone.
Unless he offers a product that others are willing to trade for, The Pimp with the Limp (and bigmouths such as Chris Matthews) will have to survive on other people’s generosity. They will have to seek out individuals who will help THEM and not rely on government handouts. They will have to learn humility. I doubt they can.
As we near that cliff of no return, where there is no source of revenue to pay for the various programs and the debt, it will suddenly be discovered that the anti-climate change scientist group was right after all, and voila oil drilling will be permitted. Considering that reports show we would surpass Saudi Arabia in oil production, the fiscal cliff issue will be resolved. I expect this to happen before the 2014 elections.
Well, I don’t know if it’s a question of just getting Hispanics to vote for you. The sad fact of the matter is, and I hate to say it, but America isn’t too bright.
Think about it. If you logically looked at Obama’s record, there is not one metric that shows that he was a success. Not one. Whether it’s unemployment, the economy, taxes, the “stimulus,” Obamacare, or GDP growth. So what got Obama elected? A combination of offering everybody “free stuff” (such as entitlements) and the “Pimp with a Limp.”
Obama really didn’t have one serious interview or press conference during the last six months of the election. He went on The View, David Letterman, The Tonight Show, The Daily Show, the “Pimp with a limp” radio show, other rap and hip-hop radio shows, and did interviews with Us and Rolling Stone magazines. Basically, he was selling himself like a whore, which is only appropriate that he went on The Pimp with a Limp radio show. So that’s what politics today is all about, how you can sell yourself to the masses and on the most useless entertainment formats there are. Politics today is nothing more than mass market entertainment. It cracked me up when the mainstream media asked Romney about “specifics” in his economic plan. Specifics? When did those same people once ask Obama what his economic plans or goals were for his next four years? And if you have a good Public Relations team working for you, like JZ or Bruce Springsteen, and can promise a boatload of free stuff to just about every minority there is, you too will be the next president of the United States.
And when these same people understand, really understand, that they will be hurt the worst when the economy does NOT get better and that we don’t have the money for all their precious entitlements, then I wonder what The Pimp with a Limp will say? Oh, that’s right, it’s all Bush’s fault.
Welcome to the days of “Bread and Circuses”. The Democrats have re-discovered this method of apeasing the masses and are beating the Republicans to death with it.
“You belong to ? Here’s your free stuff! What you’re not here legally? That’s ok we’ll take care of that for you, just remember who to vote for, and here’s some free stuff!”
Conservatives cannot compete with this as a) it goes against their very principles, and b) as M. Thatcher said, you eventually run out of other people’s money.
The GOP isn’t going to have an effective outreach program to Hispanics or anyone else until America fixes the root causes of it’s problems.
Right now we live in a country that believes in throw away babies and old people, a place that has no fear of openly mocking God or being stricken by the diseases that are certain to accompany the rampant abhorrent and sick minded sexual behavior that is now prevalent throughout our country.
But, before any of those kinds of things can ever be righted the massive amount of brutal crudeness and the unbelievable level of ignorance that our “educational” institutions have produced must be repaired.
Election 2012 marked the end of America’s last chances.
There are no more Grace period chances for our country left in God’s Kingdom.
Bush got 40% of the Hispanic vote.
Romney got 29%.
I prefer to see future GOP Presidential candidates do at least as well with Hispanics as Bush did.
Bush didn’t succeed with Hispanics because of immigration reform.
He succeeded by courting them and making them feel welcome in the GOP.
But when Hispanics hear certain conservatives in the GOP base stigmatize them as shiftless, lazy, drunken, prone to criminal tendencies, only wanting handouts and alcohol, they flee the GOP and take a look at what the Dems have to offer.
I’ve been observing Presidential campaigns since the 1960s. And one thing I’ve noticed about GOP campaigns since the 1970s is how much less inclusive and welcoming they’ve become. In the last 10 years or so, anyone who is not a Married White Judeo-Christian Heterosexual is treated with suspicion by the GOP base, as if such a person has to prove his loyalty to conservative principles or something.
Time to get out the crime stats and graduation rates, pal.
Gee, way to prove the OP’s point, buddy.
Have fun losing elections.
It is what it is. Easy to ignore if you don’t live in a no-go zone; there nonetheless.
I think you’ve been watching a different GOP than I have in the last 10 years. We’re all swooning over people like Mia Love, Allen West, Marco Rubio, etc. (that may sound sarcastic in writing, but it’s not–I am a huge fan of all three of those individuals, and a lot of other people are too)
Unfortunately, Mia lost and it appears that Allen has too.
Keep an eye on new Sen. Ted Cruz. He could eventually outshine even Marco.
Sure, why not? If we’re going to be a Banana Republic why not embrace the people who invented the concept? Why not make them as comfortable as possible by adapting their political philosophy and customs rather than expecting them to adapt ours? After all, doesn’t “winning” trump principles?
First of all: This piece has a very, very lousy title. Even using sarcastic quotemarks, beginning with the statement that outreach to hispanics won’t work sounds, at this point, a complete admission of defeat.
Besides that, one of the things that heartens me most about the growth of the hispanic minority is that, once any demographic is big enough, it can’t be so easily exploited by racial hucksterism. The word “hispanic” already applies to an incredibly diverse group of peoples, united mostly by language and religion. And as it happens, a little Catholicism inclines a man to conservatism.
I live in New England, so I can’t speak so much about of Mexican-American majority of the hispanic-American minority, but most of the Puerto Rican and Dominican-American people I know are firmly pro-life anti-gay marriage. Heck, that makes them more socially conservative than me!
Fiscal conservatism isn’t really that hard a sell, either, especially if you start your pitch from a pro-life, pro-family perspective. A historically literate latino is just as likely to be as anti-socialist as a historically literate anglo. Come to that, an anglo-American college kid is more likely to wear a Che T-shirt than a Cuban-American kid.
The hispanics I know just tend to believe Republicans (not necessarily conservatives) hold them in contempt. We can change this. This does mean more campaigning needs to be done in Spanish, and more focus needs to be put on America’s welcome of documented immigrants. As the minority grows and more hispanics find success in this country, fewer of them will feel vulnerable and victimized, and that takes a powerful tool from progressives.
“once any demographic is big enough, it can’t be so easily exploited by racial hucksterism.”
Then I respectfully would say you are missing many data points about the role of the groups. And even the PR community is pressed upon by PRLDEF and other political organizations posing as civil rights groups.
Even if Hispanics aren’t “held in contempt” by the GOP, there will be a multi-million dollar organizing effort to tell them otherwise. Campaigning in Spanish by the GOP won’t do anything to blunt the massive counter organizing by leftists groups already present and welcome in those communities. The groups must be taken on directly first or else any gains will be wiped out, if they can be made at all.
Perhaps the best way to diminish the effects of this mass approach is to work bottom up, with, eg, church groups working together on community projects.
When it comes to “contempt,” it’s just a word. Always look at people’s feet, not their lips. The vast majority of Americans would never consider moving to Latin America to raise a family. Even Latinos IN Latin America don’t want to. Any one who’s backpacked through Latin America laughs at how backward it is. It’s a classic “great place to visit, wouldn’t want to live there.”
When you use the word “contempt” in the way you did, it sounds racial, but in fact, it’s a quietly and widely agreed on thought, even by liberals – they simply lie and say otherwise in public – it’s PC that stops people from saying it – but look at their feet and who goes where and who does not. The simple fact is that Latin America is like it is because of the people in it. Bring those people here in their millions and you get a slice of that, not string theory and the next generation of people who’ll innovate fleet carriers.
Enough with the PC – it is what it is.
I work now with many college educated Hispanics and they confirm regularly what I have always known; most illegal aliens don’t want amnesty or citizenship. They just want to come here, work, and go home. It’s the Democrat party that wants to give them amnesty and then citizenship.
If Mexicans, and others, could get work permits to come work here, they wouldn’t sneak across the border, smuggle in their families, and then never leave. The reason they stay is because they risked everything to get in.
If we create a generous work permit process most illegals here now would leave and very few new ones would come.
I don’t know who opposes a work visa program for them but that resistance is what drives illegal immigration and a burgeoning, anti-GOP, population.
‘They just want to come here, work, and go home.’
Work where? At what and for how long?
Agriculture has been mechanized. Granted there are some agricultural tasks that can’t be mechanized and manual labor is required. Haven’t we had temporary work visas all along? They’re underutilized.
Years ago, there was a story about illegals working in the meat packing plants in the mid-west. It’s hard labor and was once done by Americans. It takes a lot of money to set yourself up in America. Once you go to all that effort and actually have children here, why would you want to leave? Your kids are your ticket to the good life.
100% agree with Eric.
I live in a large 46% Hispanic city in the Midwest. In the almost 8 years I’m there, I’ve gotten to know many Latinos well. They ALL pretty much say the same thing: We love Mexico (or wherever) and hope to return there.
They naturally feel more at home in their native country. Only economics drives them here, and given a better home country economy, most would go back…even if they’ve been here 20 years! If the economy tumbles as much as I think it will with Obama’s re-election, jobs for Hispanics will be less and less.
We’d almost be better off working to improve the Mexican economy, than coming up with new ways to give them citizenship here.
Christian’s absolutely right. The racialist groups were out in force and in coalition with The AFL-CIO and Advancement Project Tuesday. You aren’t going to “convince” these groups to like you: they exist to promote divisiveness and sheer hatred towards the enemy, which is white Republicans.
Think a thousand Al Sharptons, if the picture isn’t clear enough. The goal is not equality, or acceptance, or “mere” amnesty, which ought to be called by a more realistic name. The goal is to punish us for not paying them off with cash and obesience, as the Democrats do. I listened to a conference call between several elected officials and activists before the election. They were laughing about how they were going to get everything they wanted from Obama and how that was going to tip America electorally. They were also laughing about how they were going to punish Republicans for sins ranging from wars early in America’s history to not submitting to the “wise Latina” narrative.
Think you’re going to turn a hatred like that? Think again. And take a look at the Asian vote as well – racial grievance training in the schools is paying off handsomely. You’re not doing anyone favors by pandering to Caustic ideologies. Nor are you being insensitive by refusing to submit. First, take the vocabulary back.
Glenn Beck is correct — what’s needed going forward is bigger, stronger conservative media. It doesn’t seem to matter what conservatives accomplish when the message is skewed through the liberal media lens.
Reporting from New Haven, I saw a very interesting development in this election. There were prominent black activists who supported Republican Linda McMahon for Senate. I received a robo-call from the former 14-yr. head of the NAACP in Bridgeport. She strongly urged voting for McMahon. There were others, including a minister. However, I saw only one lone article in the press about this story, which had ground-shaking significance in deep-blue Connecticut. It should have received national exposure.
Likewise, Univision was the only media outlet to seriously challenge Obama in this election cycle. This was covered in the conservative media (lightly) but not elsewhere.
The medium is still the message, so to paraphrase an infamous Obama quote, “We’ve got to have a media (sic) force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
With such a woefully undereducated and propagandized populace, this is the only hope.
Rove needs to go, he has played a part in the mess we are in. Rove never defended W, even now, he allowed POTUS to say over and over again without challenge that the recession was 100% caused by Bush policies of tax cuts. No mention of the CRA, Fannie / Freddie, failure of bank regulators, etc. The majority of the electorate believe the recession was all because of tax cuts, I don’t ever recall Rove speaking out, even in the past 4 years and certainly none of the ads he ran talked about this? He is pushing Jeb and there is no way, I will support another Bush, enough.
The conservative bench is strong, Scott Walker, Mike Pence, Rand Paul and others will be ready in 2016. For now, we have to hold the line as best we can starting now.
Mark Levin’s book Liberty and Tyranny has been translated to Spanish and will be out in January, I will be buying copies and distributing to Hispanic organizations. I will be following Ted Cruz closely and hope he will be a player in reaching out to all Americans, including Hispanics.
After posting my comment, I found Peter Ferrara’s piece and he agrees, silience on what caused the loss of wealth for millions of Americans was a glaring error. Karl Rove is viewed as one of the key players in the GOP, I cannot stand him, he like all of the Bushes are progressives, they are not conservatives.
“The American people lost literally trillions in the financial crisis, in home values, in stock values, and in lost jobs and wages. Obama had a narrative as to what caused the financial crisis. It was Bush’s, and maybe even Reagan’s, tax cuts, and Republican deregulation. And the argument that won the election for Obama in my opinion was that Romney just wanted to go back to the same policies that caused the financial crisis (the mess we are in) in the first place.”
http://spectator.org/archives/2012/11/08/where-republicans-and-conserva
Until we can have Americans put Americanism above their interest group, no hope exists.
It’s even worse in France.
Just ignore the race hustlers. It is a game of presentation. Reach out to the sane members of every group. Do not fall into shame and apology. But also do not talk down to them by adopting the placating Marxist line.
My god if you guys knew the contempt so many Hispanics from all countries have for Marxism. you would realize the potential that exists.
You have no idea about the size, scope of effectiveness of the groups then. One cannot ignore them because they will not ignore you. They have millions to wreck all the gains your “reaching out to sane members” will make.
The author is right to point out that Republican will never help ‘solve’ the illegal alien problem in league with the dems because the latter do not want to solve it. The biggest problem with ‘solving’ it is that a majority of those born here and several generation removed from the border continue to identify strongly with Mexico. Republican outreach to people with a father or grandfather who came here illegally is pretty much a waste of time.
Republicans need to start doing politics differently. They need to understand how the dems manipulate their targeted voters. They do this by using the services of psychologists. The dems’ cadres of political operatives are still useful in setting goals and understanding objectives and targets, and also for going on FOX and selling the usual dem bilge. But it’s the psychologists that tell them how to get from A to Z. Republicans continue to regard politics as a rational art; dems have, at least since Obama, been going to the source of perception. They know how to take perfectly well-meaning, decent people and turn them into something their gullible target groups would never vote for. This the new way of politics and until Republicans get a handle on it they will continue to lose to people like Obama and similar moral dwarfs.
It’s seems to be hard for Republicans to understand the mind of the average liberal, leftist type. It’s not all that hard; they know the answer intuitively but shy away from embracing its full truth. Any conservative or Republican is to any true-believing Democrat a worse threat and enemy than any obvious threat beyond our shores or borders. And this is not an exaggeration.
Equality under the law? Reauthorize the Voting Rights Act but make it apply to ALL. That would take the partisan nature of it away. Get wise. (er)
It will be Jeb Bush/Marco Rubio in 2016 against Hillary Clinton/whatever the cat dragged in as VP.
Heaven help us all.
This was a technical election. There was no meaning here. It was a victory of technique, not policies. Think for a minute: what does Obama have a mandate to do? Nothing. By all standards of previous elections, we should have had the opposite result, and O should have lost. No decisions were made here on policy–it was all about branding.
However, policies must change to make the technical part harder to do.
The D’s have seized on the youth and minorities–the 47%, if you will. Elections to suppress enough of the 53% to win with bare majorities will be the norm.
Elections going forward will be driven by data mining from Facebook and other social media (don’t think for a minute that Our Social Network wasn’t a big part of the data mining strategy). Not only did microtargeting of the electorate drive turnout, it allowed the D’s in real time to see effects of events, and drive messaging. It allowed them to drive D turnout and suppress R turnout with their message.
It was Frank Luntz on megasteroids. Indeed, Frank was playing with bows and arrows here for the Rs while the Ds were using nuclear weapons.
It also explains why Nate Silver, Daily Kos, and PPP were so close to the real result this year. They were getting fed parts of the algorithms from team O to use in their likely voter screens.
The message will have to change. The technology will have to change. It’s a tall order, but I suspect that there is a chance that O will now screw up so badly that the D brand will be tarnished. The D bench is so weak that absent a charismatic leader (and Hillary is going to have her political career ended by Benghazi) they are going to have a tough slog for the next four years.
The question is can the R party take advantage of this?
J Christian Adams (from above) — But until you wipe out the multi-million dollar race interest groups that exist to keep them in the Democrat orbit – ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS WILL FAIL.
Wrong. What keeps these groups operational is widespread conservative antipathy to immigrants. It’s not the democrats railing about illegals, it’s the whote conservatives. Underscoring this are sites like this where whites complain about “racism” and natter on about unwed mothers and white women who prefer black men and handouts and so on. The more the “conservatives” note the majority black and hispanic vote for Obama and regard this as racism, the worse it gets.
These “conservatives” are in fact the very stereotype that insures immigrant votes for the left. After all, this is the place that greeted every Navarette essay with a type of cat-calling scorn that invokes “Idiocracy.”
Fix that. The rest fixes itself.
What a stupid comment, by a “random” engineer…LMAO
No wonder this country is in trouble, big trouble.
I have no antipathy towards immigrants. I do despise illegals — just as I do anyone who commits fraud and considers themselves above the law.
I have no problem distinguishing between the two groups — why do you?
Let’s talk about racial accusation, RandomEngineer. It’s troubling that you comfortably slur people who disagree with you regarding illegal immigration, including falsely ascribing beliefs about legal immigration that nobody thought of here, except you.
If you want to continue down this road, you need to shed two false fronts. Lose the fake name if you’re going to levy racial accusations against others, and lose the false accusations if you really wish to discuss issues. Then we can discuss immigration policy and what we really “feel” about illegal immigration.
I’m not in the mood to be falsely accused of racism by people who lob verbal assaults from behind the comfort of a made-up name.
It really amazes me that Hispanics voted the way they did, especially the legal ones. They all came here for a reason, to be free to be free to earn a good living and they vote for a party that would return them to what they just left behind. What does that say? Hard working but stupid?
This article conveniently leaves out the fact that Bush got 44% of the Hispanic vote in 2004. People who don’t understand why Hispanics went to Obama should sit down and talk with some.
Getting the Latino vote up to the 44% level that Bush received will ALWAYS involve support for amnesty. But how much will that help Republicans in the short and long-term? Long-term, you are creating more Democrats and liberals than conservatives. Any minority group with a disproportionate share of “have-nots” will always trend that way. Short-term, it would make Florida and Nevada more competitive for Republicans…but I don’t see any other benefits.
Latinos wanting to vote Republican would also be more socially conservative, which would strengthen this wing of the party.
I think Republicans would have a much better chance of political success trying to figure out how to get more of the white vote. All the people who describe themselves as “fiscally conservative but socially liberal.” All that would require is MODERATION on divisive social issues, and actual rather than pretend fiscal conservativism.
Yup I’m convinced Bush was offering shamnesty to get that 44%. He sold his soul to the devil for a win.
I agree with the author, we don’t have a chance if we accept the Left’s premises.
All the symptoms point to a balkanization phase, like when “oppressed minorities” in Dalmatia (with the help of the revolutionaries and Josip Broz Tito) just drove out Italian population from the coastal areas. Venice was the colonizer/conqueror/protector of Dalmatia, there was just no point of it going under Tito, yet it happened; it was: brutality, robbery and murdering in the name of social “ideals”.
How it happened? Because richer Italian population in the coast didn’t fight back in time. The under the radar work of the communists (“community organizers”) undermined the society until it was too late.
The only way to prevent balkanization is, first, not to accept their “identity politics” premises; as said, first we should stick to core principles, principles that doesn’t make distinction between man and woman; black, white, brown or yellow; religion; race. But those principles go BOTH ways, we don’t have to accept any idea based on those terms, be it coming from the left or form the right. If we want to play by the rules (“rule of law”), the rules are the same for everybody, therefore, we should point out that identity politics is the ultimate attack to “equal rights”.
One avenue might be returning veterans who have seen the danger firsthand of a waffly foreign policy and also a group that once home may be convinced of the unfairness of not having a level chance at entry level employment (yes, many companies and governments have veteran preferences) seeing themselves and their relatives cast aside as the “old meat”. Nowadays, it is not uncommon to hear of members of the “Class of ’86″ squirm with trepdiation as new illegal groups such as Hondurans be brought in as the new meat. Remember, Operation Wetback was initiated in 1954 when many Korean War returnees had troubles in the job market. Being trained in firearms means that they may be strong 2nd amendment people as well.
I think a key would be not to offer an amnesty, but a rapidization of the legal immigrant process for those currently in the queue. Make those INS people work 24/7 and on weekends and clear the queue, all the way to wee hour swearing in. By shortening the process, you also shorten the marination period when a lot of these ethnocist groups have the spotlight. And as I said to Allston, have a frontdoor way for European, Asian and OTM/OTLA immigration vis a vis the Obamacare need for health professionals. Markus, you can shorten the long term unto a brief middle term. I personally would restrict numbers from Islamic countries, but….
This racial/ethnic and victim group mentality is far more insidious than you can imagine.
My friend’s two children are part Japanese. They are both BLONDS.
Yet they are grievance group grifters of the first order. They can talk about little else but what the “evil whites” did to the American Japanese during WWII. They are the righteous victims, even though they were born in the 80s and never experienced any type of racial discrimination themselves. They are diehard, loyal Democrats because the Democrats support the “ordinary people” and the victims.
Point out to them that FDR–President during WWII–was a Democrat and they look at you with blank stares. They want someone else to pay for their college educations, their health care, so that they have more income to spend on iPhones, iPads, and ski vacations. They want a guarantee that they will graduate, automatically become managers, and make six figures.
We are so hosed.
Your friend’s children learned to see themselves as racial victims of FDR in school — pretty much all children learn about WWII anymore is the American internment camp story. See my report with Mary Grabar — PBS: Reeducating Children — for the whole story, and please join us in our efforts to push back against PBS Teachers’ radicalizing syllabi.
My three children are part Japanese. Everything they got, they earned for themselves. They didn’t vote for O. Asian gets you nothing in this country, except worse odds on getting in to the best schools. The problem is not anyone’s ethnicity. The problem is people like your friend, and us. Mostly us.
If Romney ever made the case that an empowered life of achievement was possible for all Americans, and that the only thing holding us back was the government and the self-proclaimed elites, I never heard it. Did Romney ever talk about the regulations that force jobs overseas?
If Romney ever pointed out that the poor today live better than the kings of old, and the only thing preventing that from staying true in the future would be our government, I never heard it. How’s that green energy working for you?
We let the Democrats imply that the Department of Education has done something useful, instead of making education more expensive. Don’t you think students would rather have jobs after they graduate than not?
We let the Democrats make the case that the Republicans were racists, instead of pointing out that the burden of failed economic policies has fallen disproportionately on the poor. A growing economy provides more for all. The statist view of dividing a fixed pie is wrong. Ten percent of a million is way better than half of ten thousand. A stagnant economy hurts us all.
We don’t even acknowledge the idiocy of forcing those who came here for education and want to stay to leave. It’s insane. Half my daughter’s PhD class in a STEM filed is foreign born. We ought to give each of them a Green Card when they graduate. We’ll live longer and better if we do. Why make them go home and compete against us.
I can go on, but you get my point, which is not to attack Romney, but to argue that our real problems are not “real rape” or free contraceptives but the big issues. We lost because we didn’t fight for what we believe in. Too many of us stayed home.
There you have it. Too many of us stayed home.
This isn;t about identity politics, it’s about ideology politics, and that is what we need to focus on.
“My friend’s two children are part Japanese. They are both BLONDS.
Yet they are grievance group grifters of the first order. They can talk about little else but what the “evil whites” did to the American Japanese during WWII. They are the righteous victims, even though they were born in the 80s and never experienced any type of racial discrimination themselves. They are diehard, loyal Democrats because the Democrats support the “ordinary people” and the victims.”
Send them to Japan for an extended spell, let ‘em get a load of what the Japanese think of half-breeds.
They will SCREAM to come back here.
My wife is half American Indian, and in her youth bought into the whole “500 years of oppression” thing, which actually has some merit if you look at it objectively.
She was cured of her notions by some time on the Rez out in Arizona, when they offered to “beat the White Man out of her.”
To paraphrase her:
“Yeah….right. You’re going to overthrow the White Man and take back your lands…right after you have the abandoned trucks towed out of your front yard, huh?”
Nothing like a good strong dose of “the Old Country” to put peoples’ minds right with what America offers.
I’ve been on ships with fellow crewmen who are Black when they go to Africa.
It’s usually quite a change in attitude when we leave there than it was from when we are going.
Maybe that’s the answer: make everyone who identifies with a particular ethnic group spend a few weeks in the Old Country to find out what they’re missing.
My two cents on this subject: I am not aware of any longer term social force in play than demographics. Economic, social, political forces pale in comparison when compared with the long range/term effects of the demographic forces at work.
Globally, the white female fertility rate (barely above 1%) is much lower than the non-white female fertility rate (well above 2.5%); and it has been steadily declining for now almost a century. Add to this the global migration patterns of the predominently non-white populations into regions inhabited predominently by white populations over the past half century or so, and the long term demographic picture is quite clear.
Two exit points: one, it is now considered very rAAAAAAAAAAAcist (let alone politically incorrect, and soon to become illegal I fear) the mention of the term “white;” and two, the ‘culture” behind Edmund Burke’s conservativism is very far from the “culture” of the average (legal or illegal) non-white voter.
Saddly, the last bastion of Liberty, the American (true – fiscally, socially, morally, theist) Conservative has become an endangered species.
We lost because as a party we’ve gotten off-focus. We’re eating our own tails. We need to remember what united the founders: state’s rights.
We can’t come to a consensus among ourselves about what we believe.
Tea Partier, GOPer, Libertarian, WE ARE NOT ENEMIES.
Our problem is, we’re trying to pass Federal laws according to OUR consensus, when WE DON’T EVEN HAVE ONE.
We’re wondering why we lost, and we STILL have people bickering about whether Mormons are Christian.
You know what the founders would have said? “WHY DO YOU CARE?”
OK, Evangelicals, call me a non-Christian. I’m a Mormon. Think what you want about me. That’s fine. I don’t sit up at night worrying that Evangelicals don’t think I’m a Christian.
What I DO want is for my wife and kids to grow up in a free country. That means telling people to be who they are, which is WHAT WE WANT ANYWAY!
“Hey, New Yorker, why do you need Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (“I know NOTHING!”) to tell you what kind of car to drive? Why do you need Nancy Pelosi telling you what kind of light bulb to install in your house? Why do you need Harry Reid telling you how much to pay in Union dues? Aren’t New Yorkers smart enough to figure that out for themselves? And what do you care about how they do business in Miami or California or Colorado or Texas? Let’s all agree to let each other be who we are, and decide how we do business in our own states!”
We lost because THAT’S the message we’re no longer presenting. Plain and simple. Let’s elect our fundamentalists to the House and Senate, and then pick a Presidential nominee that’s a little more moderate, but has a state’s rights agenda. Then dismantle the Federal machine, agency by agency. THAT is how we get our country back, ladies and gentlemen.
One needs James O’Keefe, times 1000. Despite the howls of the Left, ACORN had to break up. It did not disappear but it became weaker. After a few exposes by Glen Beck, Van Jones left the White House.
The Left understands that everyone sins to some degree. The Left has an obsession about Divorce Records and someone’s sexual escapades. The Conservative Right has to cross the Rubicon. Deny the Left refuge. What is holding back the Left is that they want to act like a Rat but still smell like Roses.
Conservative writers like Ann Coulter, Michael Savage, Mark Levin may make the NYT best sellers list but the books sold do not compare with the Leftist school books (at least 50 million). We need to Occupy the Median and the Class Room.
Forget it, we’re importing millions of socialists from third-world countries with no end in sight, you think they will listen? Sucking up to enemies like La Raza never works, they spin it to their advantage.
Let them fail when they come here. Let them learn the same lessons you had to learn. Mow your own lawn. Don’t employ them (in other words, obey the law.) Let the various governments (fed, state and local) support them as long as the working residents can.
The problem is that almost everything the minorities, and some majorities, believe to be true are lies. This deception by the left is now firmly controlling all avenues of information and education and the lies are being ingrained in these groups almost from birth. This should have been cut off at its inception over a Century ago but is now so ingrained in society that, if even possible at all to reverse, it will require an effort that few are willing to risk going against the entrenched grain.
And it occurs at this point that a reminder is in order here.
The DemocRats do not pander to racial and ethnic and class minorities because they WANT to, but because they HAVE to.
And the reason that they HAVE to is because less than 40% of White people will vote for them.
Once the rest of the FDR generation, who vote Democratic because some guy from the WPA showed up with a sack of potatoes in 1935, and the LBJ Babyboomers die off,(those that haven’t made the journey to neo-Conservatism…at least), what will the DemocRats have for a White constituency?
Homosexuals and Marxists and Union Bosses. And THEY won’t stick around long, as THEIR coalition with racial and ethnic minorities is untenable in any sane universe…a fact that they often forget, and end up with debacles like California’s Prop 8.
To listen to all these slobs yammering about “outreach” REALLY means that the GOP should go chasing after the DemocRats on their well-traveled road to electorate divisive pandering.
The problem is that not only will at least half of the Party stand pat and shoot you in the back for it, buit that those that DO chase the DemocRats will always have to be on the lookout to keep from stepping in Dem-poop.(For all their Green nonsense, we all know how shabbily Dems actually treat the environment).
The joke about sled-dogs holds well here:
If you ain’t the lead dog in the trace, the view’s pretty much the same…
LATINOS CAN BE WOOED. ONE BIG PROPAGANDA LIE IS REPUBLICAN GRINGOS DON’T LIKE PEOPLE OF COLOR. THEY PLAY IT ALL THE TIME. IN NEW YORK CITY AT A US CITIZEN SWEARING IN CEREMONY. THE FEDERAL SPOKESMAN TOLD THE NEW AMERICANS THAT THEY WOULD BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST AND THEN GAVE THEM PHONE NUMBERS TO CALL. HE WAS A RECRUITER FOR THE DEMO COMMO PARTY. GETTING FIRST CRACK AT NEW VOTERS.
WE TOOK A BRAZILIAN LADY TO DINNER TO CELEBRATE HER NEW CITIZENSHIP.EVERYBODY BUT THE PIANO PLAYER WAS WHITE. SHE FELT UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE
STARING AT HER. SHE THOUGHT IT WAS PREDJUDICAL STARES. BUT IT REALLY WAS ONE OF ADMIRATION AND JEALOUSY. HER DRESS AND HER BEAUTY GOT THE FOCUS BUT THE RACIST PREP BY THE COMMUNISTS KICKED IN FIRST.NAME 14 LATINOS WHO DIED FOR THEIR COUNTRY THIS COUNTRY IN IRAQ. READY? GOMEZ TIMES 14. MANY LATINOS ARE CATHOLICS AND EVANGELISTS. THEY ARE GOD, FAMILY AND PATRIA PEOPLE. WHY WOULD THEY STAY IN LA PARTIE DE LA MUERTE THAT KILLS KIDS AND BETRAYS THEIR MILITARY SONS AND DAUGHTERS? ONLY BECAUSE THE DEMO COMMOS TELL THEM THE REPUBLICAN GRINGOS HATE THEM. WE HAVE TO SERENADE THEM WITH TRUTH AND PROOF.
WE WANT THE BEST AND WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE GRINGO IS GOOD FOR THE LATINO.
ONE THING THAT IS NOT GOOD FOR EITHER IS DRUGS. SO WHY DOES DEMOCRATIC CONTROLLED HOLLYWOOD MAKE ALL LATINOS LOOK LIKE DRUG PUSHERS? THAT IS RACIAL PROFILING. VAYA CON DIOS AMIGOS. TOMAS SUPER GRINGO.
http://WWW.SPIRITOFAMERICAPARTYRADIOSHOW.COM
Here’ the real reason Romney lost:
The real reason Mitt Romney lost the election is the multiculturalist political environment that prevents conservative forces from mobilizing their natural constituency.
Here’s what happened: Team Obama ran a campaign based on “us vs. them,” while Romney ran a campaign based on ideas. In that kind of contest, ideas always lose. Obama demonized opponent Romney as a threat, as an enemy, and cultivated and encouraged the racial, ethnic, and gender solidarity of his supporters. That’s what he meant when he said, “voting is the best revenge.” Revenge against whom? Rich white guys. And those are the people he means when he says he intends to make the wealthy pay their “fair share” by increasing taxes. His black and Hispanic constituencies know their own taxes won’t go up. Obama’s entire campaign was based on the unspoken question, “whose side on you on?”
This solidarity, or “we feeling” is the most powerful of human motivations. It is so powerful that in times of war, an individual is willing to surrender his life for his group. That group may be a family, a tribe, or a political unit such as a country. The only possible way to defeat a group with a “we feeling” is with a stronger, opposing “we feeling.”
But Romney’s campaign was based on intellectual arguments. He and his supporters actually ran television advertisements featuring charts and graphs. While Obama talked people, Romney talked numbers. Team Romney did not explain why Obama’s ideas were bad, only that they were inexplicably wrong. Obama was depicted not as a threat or an enemy, but as merely mistaken. In fact, Team Romney made no effort whatsoever to characterize Obama in any way at all. Romney asserted no group solidarity to oppose Obama, and created no image of the opponent for voters to dislike. Romney did not ask, “whose side on you on?” but, “whose ideas do like better?”
Obama won more than 70 percent of the Hispanic vote, and more than 90 percent of the black vote. That’s because individual blacks and Hispanics identified their self interests with their group interests. What is good for the group was seen as good for themselves individually. Relying on gender chauvinism, Obama was also able to garner significant support from single white women. They were not won over by ideas or rational argument, but by an irrational fear of a “war on women.”
Romney won only 57 to 59 percent of the white vote, compared to the higher percentages of non-whites for Obama. Because whites are roughly 72 to 73 percent of the entire electorate, only a slight increase in the white vote for Romney would give him enough to win a majority of votes.
But multiculturalist America doesn’t allow white unity or appeals to it. In America today, blacks and Hispanics (and other non-whites) are encouraged by the multiculturalist mileu to cultivate, celebrate, and enhance their racial solidarity culturally and politically. There is an NAACP and Black Entertainment Television for blacks, a National Council of La Raza, Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, and Univision for Hispanics, but no corresponding apparatus for whites, and none are permitted. As newspaper columnist Willaim Raspberry bluntly put it, “It’s always illegitimate for white men to organize as white men.”
Because whites are not allowed to organize on their own behalf, conservative pundits and politicians now openly suggest that Republicans can win future presidential contests only through increased appeals to blacks and Hispanics. Unfortunately, blacks and Hispanics respond en bloc only to appeals for expropriation of white wealth or defeat of white power. Completing the multiculturalist triumph against whites, some commentators have even suggested that non-whites must appear on future Republican presidential tickets.
Racial politics may be lamentable, but in a multiracial society they are inevitable.
As non-white voting strength increases in the next four years through naturalization of millions more Hispanic immigrants, whites face the historically important choice of political oblivion or racial solidarity.
Conservatives need to implement an activist strategy of setting up and maintaining a physical presence in all communities. They should promote conservative ideals on business, education, governance, science, and equality.
Nothing will combat the racist stereotypes of the left more than allowing people to meet conservatives in the real world.
The only thing many people in blues states or big cities know about conservatives is what they see on tv or what the Democrats tell them.
For all this talk about race, demographics, etc, it all comes back to the same thing: free stuff. By all accounts, the % of Latinos who voted for Obama correspond exactly, if Pew polls are to be believed, to the % who say the government should “do more” and provide more “services”. It’s money and nothing else. Of course, this is all couched in the usual doubeltalk about caring, compassion, community, etc, but to repeat: They just want free stuff.
Asians? If geographic data were available on the 3% who voted, my guess is a good part of the Obama vote came from Michigan. It’s “Asians” in the British sense, not Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese, as the term is commonly understood here. Another part of that group would be the young and dumb Obamunists in the “youth” vote. (BTW, if you go to a restaurant to eat, try to determine if the waitron is an Obama-lover. If so, just stiff them on the tip. The left behaves like this, it’s time to treat them to the same)
Dont forget the east Indians who fall under the British definition, but really don’t matter much in Michigan (and those “Asians” are more caucasoid and semitic). Indians per se are more spread out as a result of their higher education (although J. Chris probably has some interesting tidbits on this in his next work on software engineers) and tend to go with the local flow – hence Jindal/Haley in the South, but numeorus democrats in California and Illinois.
Germans being mad at fat slob Greeks and same fat slob Greeks being at mad at everything else reminds of John Travolta’s “everybody’s gotta have somebody to dump on” in Saturday Night Fever.
Further, instead of accepting the premises of the left about demographics, perhaps some more data on where these votes were cast would be helpful. If they came from places like CA,NY, NM, blue states with large Hispanic populations, so what? If they came from states with no/loose voter ID laws? Well, I think we can suspect what happened there….Less knee-jerk, more details on this woudl be helpful.
I agree. I think we’re hyperventilating about this a little too soon. Romney didn’t even get the votes from whites that McCain did, even considering demographic changes.
First, I would look to see how Rudy Giuliani handled people like Al Sharpton. Personally, I think that Giuliani did not do a good job of working with constructive minded people in the black community. But he really knew how to handle hucksters. That photo of Karl Rove with Al Sharpton is just devastating.
Second, end affirmative action. Some heavies in the Republican party need to drop by the homes of Justice Roberts and Justice Kennedy, and strongly suggest that they end ALL affirmative action NOW. None. NO program that takes into account race or ethnicity or gender will every pass muster at the Supreme Court. NONE. Fifty years (almost) is enough. If you do that, the Democrats will have no spoils to hand out. And then the Republicans can compete for minority (can someone come up with a better word?) votes based on other criteria. Yes, you would lose some non-college whites, but HELLO, you just lost them. They stayed home.
P.S. I would also get rid of the Voting Rights Act, though I don’t know the jurisprudence on that. But it’s not an accident that you have two sub-continent Republican governors. Imagine, if we had voting rights for Indian communities. Everyone would be arguing about who was going to do more for the Hindu community. The Voting Rights act is bad for the country. Get rid of it.
The best solution to our illegal immigration problem would be to make legal immigration faster and more responsive. With no quota limitations, why are all of those Mexicans who just need work, sneaking across our border deserts? If the legal immigration bureaucracy that they don’t utilize could be made more responsive we would all be better off.
Why not an congestion priced express-laneaspect? Why should we leave coyote-level fees on the table: make it more responsive but also more expensive. Canada is smart with that $10,000 minimum deposit for visas.
Rush was all excited today that he had tumbled to the fact that Hispanics vote demonrat to keep the gravy train chugging full steam. Sheesh! Anybody who lives and works around hispanics has known this for decades. Hispanics believe that’s what government is for. Yeah, they work but they get all the free bennies they can put their hands on and most of them will lie and cheat to get more. Same goes for white single mothers that never learned to keep their knees together.
Screw it! We should all start behaving this way. Let’s bring this rotten system down!
Congratulations elite socialist masters. You got what you wanted and now have a dependent nation. Let us know how that works out for you.
Actually we have to look to Rome and Marcus Livius Drusus for our model. He swore all non-Roman Italy as his clientele if he could enfranchise them. For that reason he was assassinated which led to the Social War 91-88 BC/
Anyone with a real understanding of Mexican culture and true lawlessness cannot help but fear giving them a whip handle in our politics. What the Democratic Party wants is ratification of their allies illegal actions with full access to the safety net and transfers. The objects of their affection want more people for more political power for their block.
You have to realize that Republicans like Bush uno y dos, are pretty wimpy. It is not a WASP thing, but there is a strong go along to get along element in the group, though it is not universal. Look at the people that come up through that background. I am sure the uno y dos, took plenty of hectoring at Exeter.
I think the premise that amnesty itself won’t work is an accurate one. It’s not just about one action — it’s about making a continued, persuasive effort to reach out to the Hispanic community, women, etc. Not just in election years, but all the time.
Generally, you are correct in your prescriptions. However, “hispanics” are a much more diverse group politically than blacks, and to a certain extent outreach can work even in the absence of the steps you advocate.
Earth to Republicans: more immigrants equals more Democrats. Unless they are coming from former communist countries. Whether they are legal or illegal is irrelevant.
This is absolutely correct. A possible exception is highly educated Indians. The problem isn’t that we’re getting immigrants, the problem is that we’re getting colonists. When we gave up trying to control immigration and maintaining quotas we gave up being the same country.
I agree to some extent. The problem is that like everywhere else is more communist than the USA.
I tend to accept some of the premises of V.D.Hanson regarding this, which I interpret like: Coming to America has to be a value for the newcomer. There was a time when you migrated leaving all behind, your country, your nationality, the tyranny. This is more so when you have to cross the ocean to arrive here, so you know it won’t be easy to go back (and time ago, it was just impractical).
Now, if you can go back and forth, then you don’t tend to integrate. Because America is not like the permanent solution to lack of freedom but only a temporary painkiller against economy problems. So, the value of reaching this land is lower now for these kind of immigrant, and technology has its part (it’s easier to fly across the pond today) and in part it’s the welfare state.
There is no coming back regarding technology, it’s easier to travel today and that’s it. But the other component, the welfare state problem should be tackled. Many of them know they can just come and exploit the system, so America instead of being the land of the free or the land of the opportunity (to work), is now the land of the free stuff, or the easy stuff. This also low the value of coming to America. Eliminating the welfare state would force them to be hardworking or leave (or die) while attracting only the best of the immigrants.
The last four years have racially divided this country like it has not been in my adult life, and people everywhere can feel it. Witness the riots in Mississippi last night. Unfortunately, the MSM will brook no tolerance of criticism of the likes of Sharpton et al. I have no idea how it will all shake out. It may be a make-or-break moment for the US, and if the author’s ideas don’t pan out, well, at least we tried. The current path is unsustainable.
Item – the GOP needs to institute an outreach program, talking to and listening to receptive minority groups. Ask the current minority GOPers to open doors and ears. Have them show these groups and individuals how our interests are in alignment, and how untrue the slander of the hustlers of division are. Black Christians, Jews, Hispanics are, at the core, far more conservative than liberal. These are family-centric, business starting people who would gladly forego the bribery of goodies today for a better future for themselves and their families.
Item – Destroying the hustlers must be done judiciously, but thoroughly and totally mercilessly. Wait til a target becomes vulnerable and rip every last shred of credibility from them. Tear out their heart (figuratively). Simply trying to shame them will never work, for they have no shame, no scruples, no true sense of pride. In other words, treat them as they’ve (baselessly) treated Cons. When they’re caught philandering, don’t put their picture on page 3B, put pictures of their aggrieved spouse on the front page and the top of the broadcast. When they are caught in illegal activity, work to get them sentenced to maximum possible penalty. When they are caught abusing their position, pressure their Church leadership to severely sanction them. Make sure that whatever evidence is uncovered taints everyone associated with them – forever. Make them a pariah in their own community!
I agree with this article, it’s very well written. One problem with my fellow conservatives is that they spend too much time trying to appeal to liberals by pretending to be moderates or at least adopting moderate views (especially on social issues). This isn’t the main problem, though. The problem is that when conservatives do this, they not only get their hands smacked but they get their hands bitten off. And they keep reaching over until they’re officially missing an arm.
What we need to do is expose the bad things that come with illegal immigration, which is mostly criminal activity. Undocumented illegals who contribute to the economy by working jobs should be sent back to their home country or be forced to apply for citizenship. Sounds fascist, but Goddammit, that’s reality. It’s surprising that we’re trying to reach out to Hispanics by pussyfooting on this issue.
The white vote won’t be our strongest voting bloc so long as the Hispanic population grows the way it is. What we need to do is focus on getting blacks to vote Republican again by temporarily embracing identity politics and exposing the evil history of the Democratic Party and the liberal agenda. We’d have to start by explaining the history of the Republican Party and revealing that the pro-civil rights Republicans were conservatives, not liberals, as so many liberals tell African Americans to believe as a numeral in their fallacious “party switch” equation, and that the anti-civil rights Democrats were liberals because of their wrong interpretation of the U.S. Constitution. The truth is out there, it’s just not being told by the right people. Liberals basically have minorities by the neck in chains and we’re not doing enough to let them know they’re being hoodwinked.
The reason the Republicans lost is that white people stayed home. This vote was light in all voting groups, but the white vote was the least represented, based on earlier contests. (For those who demand a reference, I give you Google, and demand that you do your own homework.)
No one can define a negative but my guess is that many struggling people have given up hope in either party, ie America. The other reason is that the Democratic ground game is far superior to the Republicans; Dems get people to the voting booth. Republicans talk.
On racial matters, Mr. Adam’s expertise, he is correct. Republican legislators are not very bright, and none have courage. They “get along, go alone” with opponents who are very similar to Nazis, in racial power politics. History is clear on the results.
The Republicans picked a billionaire white guy who blurted out that he ignores 47% of Americans. Voters chose, by a hair, Obama’s “Not my fault”. After the disaster of the last few years (Black’s net worth has been destroyed), it blows my mind that no accountability, heads, were demanded by the voters. The same crowd runs D.C. and Wall Street.
The winning argument, for future elections, to union, gay, blacks, and immigrant communities, those who ignore Republican candidates is a simple concept to grasp: The USA is going to die; it may already be too late; would you like to change this?
Thanks for another great article, Mr. Adams!
i think it was quite some years ago that i went galt having realized that, thanks to the progressives, the illegals had more rights, freedoms, and liberties than the rest of us that were born here. in 2010, the cost to TAXPAYERS for freebies to illegal aliens was reported to be $126,000,000,000. you notice that they WON’T cough up the numbers for 2011, even AFTER the purchased election. wanna guess at about $145-150 billion?? me TOO.. that wouldn’t even begin to bother the vote-buying obomba … nor ANYbody that voted for him. Ain’t THEIR money.
Even with the current Resident, can anyone here honestly point to any country in Latin America we’d want to swap governments with? And they get 100% of the Latino vote.
If you import more people from the third world, you import more Democrats, Ted Kennedy, may he broil forever, knew this when he championed the immigration bill put this in motion back in ’65. You can also thank the dem’s for every mosque you drive by.
No wonder the GOP failed to win the election. Take it from me the.NAACP is no longer relevant nor influential in the African American community. No one pays any attention to the NAACP. But if you unfairly attack the NAACP we will rally behind it like nothing you’ve ever seen. You people are pitiful if you think we will run to the GOP if you destroy the NAACP. That is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. I am laughing my head off. Please!!! Ha Ha Ha
We spend billions on immigration and we can’t afford to throw out everyone because we can’t find them all. You people just don’t get it, those dumb fences are easy to climb over, go under or they’ll just go to the gulf of mexico and swim around. If you think the Berlin wall kept commie’s in, then your as wrong on this one as the Germans and Russians were.
We should not cave in but if these people are going to become citizens they must go through a background check, pay a penalty for back taxes and even if a few pay taxes, they should pay a fee of $3000 as a penalty for violating the border. We need to use drones flying over the border coupled with huge mounds of dirt and rock piled up near the border to steer illegals towards areas that border agents can better control. It will cost but those distracting obstacles will shift the traffic. No ones going to climb a 30ft mount of dirt and jagged rocks when going around is easier. My solution is a fiscal approach, not amnesty because criminals will go home and they’ll have to pay. We could charge them interest if they want to pay monthly with a no bankruptcy clause just like student loan receipts face. Regardless, first secure the border at a huge cost, then deal with it.
And hell yes, we must stand up the far left extremists and race ranting scum because they only distort because they love to hate and the bad news is……….its driving votes to democrats. Which is why some are calling for outreach. We don’t actually have to do what I’ve said but we must go into their neighborhoods and educate people and stand up to extremist lies. Obama won because conservatives are cowards and because the silly establishment choose the wrong candidate. Screw everyone who thinks Romney was the right choice, especially Ann Coulter the liars liar.
http://blog.chron.com/immigration/2011/01/ice-reveals-cost-for-deporting-each-illegal-immigrant/
The U.S. spent $5 billion last year to deport a record 393,000 immigrants. Immigrant advocates today are strategically calling the $12,500 cost a “deportation tax.”
Department of Homeland Security estimates that there are roughly 11 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. If you do the math, that would mean it would cost $137 billion to deport all illegal immigrants. That’s pretty close to the estimate we reported last month.
More naivete, I’m afraid. Racial solidarity is real, and is never going away. What is needed is white solidarity, a strategy to undo the PC brainwashing of most whites that it is taboo and immoral for whites to have group interests. I’m sick of white republicans who say inane things like “hispanics have family values, that’s why we can persuade them into the GOP” and “blacks are actually conservative, that’s why we can persuade them into the GOP.” Nonsense, both groups have 70% out-of-wedlock birthrates, and there’s nothing conservative nor “family values” about that. Once whites are disabused of the Marxist brainwashing, the PC taboo against their own solidarity, we can get more whites into the GOP and break the stranglehold that democrats have on people’s minds, they have divided white vote against itself by making us believe diversity is strength–it is not, solidarity is strength. The democrats get the minority votes not because they are “inclusive” but because they appeal to their interests–they give them free stuff. Minorities generally want free stuff, they want to loot whitey. You’d think that after the author has been through, he’d have learned by now. He denounces as naive what he says won’t work, then calls for a strategy that is just as naive, if not more.
Boy, this guy is a REAL conservative. He’s got his racial antenna UP and RECEIVING. Lemme guess… where do you stand on Trayvon Martin case? Oh, I thought so. Until you find out a way of peeling off the strivers among the latinos from the moocher class you’re going nowhere. So, give it a shot. You’re about half, no a quarter, no wait, an eighth of the way there.
Right now they do not need white people’s votes but they sure do need our money, and lots of it for the forseeable future. When I see those purple bumper stickers on the backs of hippy’s cars that have the single word “coexist” written on them with the letters in the form of religious symbols it sounds all well and good. You know, live and let live or can’t we all just get along? But coexisting with another person or group of persons does not mean systematically stripping them of all of their hard earned resources as the price for peace. I am not a dhimmi or a baggage mule. I say just cut them off cold turkey. We can still be friends, I just won’t give them more money. And I won’t even ask for the money back I have already lost.
One way to destroy their ability to destroy this country and a voting arm of America is….
Example…. Women’s groups…. When Hillary wss running for Prez… did they back her? NO!!
So you wonder hmmmm she’s a women and aren’t women’s groups suppose to support advancing women to higher parts of society based on equality? I thought so. But no they got behind Obama.
Ok so when McCain picked Sarah Palin, I thought they’d get behind her because she wasn’t a Democrat and she being a woman was in line to be Prez the highest office in our country. So, did they get behind her…….NO!!!
To me… I don’t know what they stand for and for them to NOT stand behind any woman just floors me. To me they are a fraud! Pure and Simple.
Same with the NAACP. They are for the advancement of Colored people…. why do they not stand behind Allen West or Herman Cain or other republicans who are colored? I don’t know.
I fail to understand why Republican always act so fearful and gutless. It seems to me that if Republicans know that black and Hispanics are always going to vote against them, regardless of what they do, then it is all the more to act solely on core conviction and principle. The Democrats will always be able to buy votes with the promise of more free stuff, and con these voters into believing that the gravy train could continue to roll on indefinitely; Republicans have no hope of winning that contest, nor should they want to.
Republicans’ fecklessness can be explained by their style of dealing with adversity. Politics is a contest between adverse people and their ideas. Democrats take the aggressive approach of fighting to win by doing whatever it takes. They will shamelessly lie, cheat and steal to win. Republicans think they can win people over by being cooperative. But when you’re dealing with someone that will run a knife through your heart to take you down, cooperation gets you killed.
Ronald Reagan showed Republicans how to win without becoming a thug. He simply stuck to his principles and articulated them well. He didn’t win every fight. On some things he decided the fight wasn’t worth making. But by not compromising his principles he won two landslide elections. John Boehner is just the opposite. He just announced in advance that he will compromise his principles to get a deal with Obama on the fiscal cliff negotiations. Guess what kind of deal he is going to get. John Boehner is typical of the type that dominates the Republican party of today. We now have a Republican party that can only win when the Democrats screw up so badly the voters just want someone else, as in the 2010 midterms.
That’s rich.
Despite an election that should have taught conservatives that the electorate does not share their views, nor does it reject Obama in apocalyptic terms like they have, the wingnuts continue to perceive their universe not how it actually exists but how they’d like for it to be.
“Racially polarized” means ethnic groups were either sharply for or against a candidate and yet Obama was popular among whites, blacks, hispanics and asians.
56% of Obama’s support came from whites, 25% from Black, 14% from Latino and 4% from Asian.
On the other hand, 42.5% of Romney’s 48.1% of the vote count was from white voters, so a stunning 88% of Romney’s support was white. In fact, Romney had less support from all non-white voters combined than Obama had from Latinos alone.
Only in right-win la-la land can a candidate with virtually non-existant cross-ethnic appeal NOT be the polarizing figure.
Only in right-wing la-la land is the party that appealed broadly across the ethnic spectrum the one engaging in race polarization politics.
But please, don’t let me stop you, keep drilling, 2014 is right around the corner. Normally I would never interrupt my opponent while they’re making a mistake but I am quite certain you’re incapable of understanding any of this.
Actually, the white vote was racially polarized too. 62 percent is legally significant racial polarization in a Section 2 Voting Rights Act case. In other words, shows evidence of racially polarization.
Mr. Adams, I commend you for your work and for resigning in protest from the corrupt Holder DoJ. I myself had a rather interesting career stint at DoJ, but that’s a different conversation.
I was wondering, as long as racial categories are fair game for political strategy–that appeals and tactics toward generating voting behavior/party membership based on race is valid discourse and agenda–do you think it is justifiably immoral or taboo to call for more whites in the GOP as a vast and thereby victorious voting bloc? If not, why not? Given your career, and U.S. history, I would of course understand what I expect to be your answer in terms of the serious sensitivities and historically problematic aspects, however in principle what I am calling for is not in the slightest different from what anyone else is calling for with all of the squeals for “inclusiveness” and “outreach” and “diversity.” It’s all merely the same thing, racial bean-counting and hustling, except that the only game in town has a distinctly anti-white agenda for decades now.
Racial polarization is an unfortunate circumstance. Black voters are 90 percent cohessive, Hispanics 72 and whites 62. I wish that wasn’t the case.
Why not simply work to increase the cohesiveness of whites?
Is it an unfortunate circumstance that people generally prefer to marry and reside in neighborhoods among mostly their own race? If so, why?
I realize that you are being asked here to question almost everything you’ve been taught and have believed all of your life about race and society.
The reason Romney lost was massive voter fraud in the swing states. As long as this fraud is allowed to go uncontested, republicans will never win unless they also cheat.
Alan West in St. Lucie, 175 thousand registered voters, 247 thousand vote!
WOW! How many people lived there in the census? I just can’t believe this, it’s too big of a stretch to imagine this is an HONEST election! Then, he is leading by around 2000 votes until after midnight when the election supervisor decides to run a “recount” of the early votes, which switches around 4500 votes! WOW……
C’mon people get real. Fight and contest these elections, and DO AN AUDIT AND CHECK THE MACHINES EVEN IF WE HAVE TO PAY OURSELVES! Are they now going to claim it is illegal to audit them?
Romney could have been better, but he was far superior to Obama and all the corruption and executive orders taking American rights away, and the NDAA. IT IS ELECTION FRAUD PLAIN AND SIMPLE…
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http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/why-the-gop-will-not-do-anything-about-vote-fraud/
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URGENT CALL TO ACTION: The
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http://darinscott.blogspot.com/2012/11/urgent-call-to-action-house-of.html
The African American vote is lost, now and forever. After 40 years of denigration, race-baiting, and scapegoating by Republicans, this demographic does not consider Republicans hostile. That is way too light a term. African Americans see Republicans as the political wing of the KKK. Analogous to a white supremacist group. The over-the-top racial animus from the right towards Obama and the Jim Crow style voter id laws cemented this demographic as disdainful of Republicans now and forever. And let me say for the record, that very same disdain is present in young Latinos. I know this ‘race-thing’ is new for the homogeneous GOP, but many Latinos are as dark-skinned as African Americans and they take the incessant race-hate-speech as harsh as the African Americans that is usually, not always, but usually the target of the Right’s generational hatreds.